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Title: Don's Wierd Condotta
Post by: DonVoss on April 21, 2012, 05:48:47 PM: Don't know if this is the right board for it: move it, if it fits better in any other place... :)

I have started a new project around some renaissance-condotta-idea. But after some research I had to realise that I wasn't too interested in the real thing. All this different cities with their bunch of condottierie and under-condottierie: too much stuff for me...

Then all of a sudden I had this mad idea of mixing in some wiered stuff and do a kind of comic-renaissance... :D

So here as a start is my florentine warband:

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/Renais/F1.jpg)

And to pimp things up a bit, they get a little da-vinci-like tank... ;)

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/Renais/F2.jpg)

Pulled or better pushed by a horse...

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/Renais/F3.jpg)

Cheers,
DV
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Post by: aggro84 on April 21, 2012, 06:01:45 PM: Nice warband and the tanks is great. :-*

What a fun idea! :)
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Post by: Sangennaru on April 21, 2012, 06:07:11 PM: Wow! really like all this! =) The perrys are always the best =)
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Post by: Anderson Collection on April 21, 2012, 06:09:38 PM: Great pics love that back drop :-*
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Post by: traveller on April 21, 2012, 06:17:49 PM: :-* :-* :-* :-*

tell us about the miniatures, where from?
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Post by: SgtPerry on April 21, 2012, 06:21:14 PM: Very nice! :o
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Post by: Mister Rab on April 21, 2012, 06:33:33 PM: What fun! And lovely painting to boot.

Do you have any thoughts about what rules you'll play this out using?
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Post by: Marine0846 on April 22, 2012, 03:50:19 AM: Cool idea.
Lots of places to go with this.
By the way, how much horse power does the tank have? :D
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Post by: valleyboy on April 22, 2012, 06:16:57 AM: Now that is very clever and very stylish
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Post by: Mako on April 22, 2012, 07:00:55 AM: Looks great.

I love your choice of scenic backdrop too!
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Post by: Phil Robinson on April 22, 2012, 08:38:24 AM: Like it!
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on April 22, 2012, 08:45:00 AM: Very nice indeed :-* :-* :-*

I love the whimsical tanket 8)

The back drop is very good also!

Is the St Christopher on the pavaise a magazine cut out?

cheers

James
Title: Re: Don's Wierd Condotta
Post by: DonVoss on April 22, 2012, 09:47:15 AM: Thanx for the nice comments and I am glad you like the idea... :)

@traveller
The miniatures are so far from the perrys. WotR and mercenaries boxes: I love the miniatures. I did use 2 lowered pikes from warlord to bring a little bit more action to the figures.

@Mr. Rab & Rules
I will use "This very Ground". Sounds funny at first, but I did use them befor for viking skirmish, so I think they will work for this setting quite well. The warbands have to be somewhere around 20 miniatures plus 1 or 2 special/wierd things.
I intend to play mostly multiplayer with these as a kind of presentation game. So its important to have some fast and easy rules... ;)

@backdrop and pavaise
I just search for a few moments in the net and printed them in colour.
Btw St. Christopher is the saint of the city of florence... :)

Cheers,
DV
Title: Re: Don's Wierd Condotta
Post by: traveller on April 22, 2012, 10:03:02 AM: Great, thanks!

I have shunned those plastic ones but you are tempting me....
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Post by: Paul on April 22, 2012, 12:56:20 PM: :-* Cracking idea !!
The tank..what make is it?
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Post by: Arlequín on April 22, 2012, 01:36:08 PM: That's what I like to see, the Renaissance as it should have been. What's next? Da Vinci Air Assault? lol
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Post by: DonVoss on April 22, 2012, 09:10:05 PM: @paul
It's scratchbuild: balsawood over a core of styrofoam. Plus a perry horse and a victrix-cannon.

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What's next? Da Vinci Air Assault?

erm, yes... :D

Finished the florentinians today. Need more pavaises though... o_o
So a few squads, a tank and a birdman (old GW).

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/Renais/F4.jpg)

@traveller
If our are not fully convinced by my work, have a look at the masterpieces capt. blood is making of these miniatures... :o

Cheers,
DV
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Post by: tomek917 on April 22, 2012, 09:13:08 PM: This is such a cool idea! And really well executed!
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Post by: commissarmoody on April 23, 2012, 04:53:47 AM: I like em! :D
What city will you be dong next?
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Post by: aircav on April 23, 2012, 11:11:35 AM: Fantastic Stuff :-*
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Post by: Paul on April 23, 2012, 12:26:22 PM: Quote from: DonVoss on April 22, 2012, 09:10:05 PM
@paul
It's scratchbuild: balsawood over a core of styrofoam. Plus a perry horse and a victrix-cannon.

It looks so good I wasn´t sure wether it was a kit. Excellent scratch build :) :)
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Post by: Aaron on April 23, 2012, 06:32:34 PM: Wow, really nice! Even if you did ruin it with the fantasy bit. ;D I have still only painted four of mine.
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Post by: Stecal on April 24, 2012, 02:44:02 AM: There used to be a set of rules called "Leonardo Plus" that covered Renaissance wargames with Leonardo Da Vinci's inventions. Long out of print, I suppose.
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Post by: aggro84 on April 24, 2012, 03:03:48 AM: Wow! The whole group looks really great together! :-*

Very nice work!
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Post by: Dalauppror on April 24, 2012, 06:55:45 AM: Very nice !!!!
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Post by: dm on April 24, 2012, 09:23:10 AM: Excellent body of work 8)
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Post by: Aaron on April 24, 2012, 12:14:45 PM: Quote from: Stecal on April 24, 2012, 02:44:02 AM
There used to be a set of rules called "Leonardo Plus" that covered Renaissance wargames with Leonardo Da Vinci's inventions. Long out of print, I suppose.

Written by Gary Leitzel, an old gaming friend of mine and current mayor of Dayton, Ohio! He sold the game including the rights to the rules to a fellow who still occasionally runs them at conventions so it might be possible to get a copy if you hunt around.
Title: Re: Don's Wierd Condotta
Post by: traveller on April 24, 2012, 04:49:18 PM: Quote from: DonVoss on April 22, 2012, 09:10:05 PM

@traveller
If our are not fully convinced by my work, have a look at the masterpieces capt. blood is making of these miniatures... :o

Cheers,
DV

I am more than convinced! :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Don's Wierd Condotta
Post by: DonVoss on April 24, 2012, 08:22:04 PM: Thanx for all the very encorouging comments... :)

Perhaps I should have made it clear from the start, that this is not a daVinci-War-Project, for me. The wierd aspect will have all sort of things: magic, monsters and regilious things...
So don't be too disapointed, if there are not too many daVinci things in the pipeline... ;)

Okay, on to the next city-state: Siena. Old enemy of Florence and the Medici.
I love their limited colour sheme... :o

Lots of things to do, but you get the idea.
So far: 6 pike, 6 billmen, 4 bow, il capitano and the big bodyguard of il Capitano, Brucinus, the Orco of Siena. A nightmarish creature from the appenine mountains...
And a small mortar (sill without crew). Scratchbuild with an old megaminiatures table and a GW-mortar barrel.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/Renais/S2.jpg)

Brucinus. An old foundry orc wich lay in my leadmountain for over ten years, so I am very happy he is finally painted...

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/Renais/S1.jpg)

Cheers,
DV
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Post by: aggro84 on April 25, 2012, 03:07:17 AM: I love that orc! :-*

He looks fantastic!

Personally, I'm really bored with the typical green skin orcs and goblins.
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Post by: Dalauppror on April 25, 2012, 05:02:02 AM: Very good !!!

I Will follow this project with greate interest !

Best regards Michael
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on April 25, 2012, 07:34:26 AM: I really like the way this is going 8)

How many states are you planning on?

cheers

James
Title: Re: Don's Wierd Condotta
Post by: DonVoss on April 25, 2012, 08:59:36 AM: Glad you like the orcish idea... :)

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How many states are you planning on?

I am initially going for 4 city-states, but am planning a big multiplayer with 6 factions. Though the last 2 factions would perhaps not be states... o_o

Cheers,
DV
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Post by: Andym on April 25, 2012, 09:09:47 AM: This is cracking. Some great ideas and execution here!!
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Post by: commissarmoody on April 25, 2012, 09:11:59 AM: Quote from: DonVoss on April 25, 2012, 08:59:36 AM
Glad you like the orcish idea... :)

I am initially going for 4 city-states, but am planning a big multiplayer with 6 factions. Though the last 2 factions would perhaps not be states... o_o

Cheers,
DV

Cant wait to see your ideas come to life.
Title: Re: Don's Wierd Condotta
Post by: Aaron on April 25, 2012, 12:05:28 PM: The Sienea faction is stunning, especially l'Orco! You did a great job on the black, too. Is there a handy book or website for Italian town liveries of this era?
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Post by: verd on April 25, 2012, 12:18:33 PM: The idea is brilliant... and the miniatures look awesome!
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Post by: Sangennaru on April 25, 2012, 12:54:19 PM: Wonderful use of the perry minis, again the black-white scheme is great!
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Post by: Vinlander on April 25, 2012, 05:12:59 PM: :-* :-* :-* :-*

This is turning my crank so much it's in danger of falling off!

;D
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Post by: Clearco on April 25, 2012, 08:00:28 PM: :-* :-* :-*
I´m in love with this project! The minis are awesome, I specially like the (horse-powered) tank! The paintjob is also very cool, I like the colors a lot :o
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Post by: BaronVonJ on April 25, 2012, 08:40:31 PM: Tis is also something I've been dreaming of:
http://baronvonj.blogspot.com/2008/01/leonardo-tech.html
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Post by: commissarmoody on April 25, 2012, 09:32:49 PM: what range is the steam tank from?
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Post by: DonVoss on April 26, 2012, 11:23:31 AM: @all: thanx for your comments, gents... :)

@Tank
As stated before its scratchbuild from balsawood over a core of styrofoam. Just a quick build... ;)

@BaronVonJ
Your round daVinci-tank looks great... :-*

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Is there a handy book or website for Italian town liveries of this era?

Not that I found one. I rely mostly on wikipedia, google and the back of the perry-box... :D

Okay, todays update is not a city state, but a faction wich no renaissance in italy-thing can go without: the swiss.
I am going for each of the trooptypes being from a different canton. And in the end I can add them to every city state I like as mercenaries or build a faction of their own.

The pikes are from Uri, the billmen from Lucerne and the "Alpen-Peter" from the matterhorn... :D

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/Renais/SW1.jpg)

The Alpen-Peter is an old mithril Lord of the Rings miniature wich lay in my leadmountain for almost 14 years. Again glad to have found a use for him at last.
The standardbearer of the billmen is from mirliton, by the way...

I know I should have finished Siena first, but I am in love with all the different colour schemes of the cantons and their flaggs... :-*

Cheers,
DV
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Post by: inkydave on April 26, 2012, 11:27:56 AM: Lovely :-* The Swiss match the standard of the other factions,,,Fantastic.
Love Alpen Peter too. Maybe the Uri men should have a minotaur to match their Flag?
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Post by: commissarmoody on April 26, 2012, 11:50:37 AM: Vary inspiering. And I think the minotaur ideas sounds great! :D
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Post by: DonVoss on April 26, 2012, 12:30:46 PM: The mino-idea is great and absolutely in the right spirit... :D
Wonder if its too greek...

DV
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Post by: Aaron on April 26, 2012, 01:57:02 PM: How about a clockwork bronze bull?
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Post by: DonVoss on April 26, 2012, 03:55:13 PM: Quote
a clockwork bronze bull?

The swiss (erm me) don't have one...:)
Thou its a tempting idea too.

DV
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Post by: Little Odo on April 26, 2012, 04:20:36 PM: I love the little fantastical twists to these units, and the paint work is superb!
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Post by: Aaron on April 26, 2012, 04:25:02 PM: Quote from: DonVoss on April 26, 2012, 03:55:13 PM
The swiss (erm me) don't have one...:)
Thou its a tempting idea too.

DV

Hmm..maybe just a clockwork cart with scythe blades on the front reminiscent of a bull's head then?
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Post by: DonVoss on April 26, 2012, 05:20:19 PM: I think I will go for a small minotaur (a champion for the unit) and a daVinci-like twinncannon... :)

Here an unpainted preview, a new thing quite popular at the moment I think... lol

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/SW2.jpg)

DV
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Post by: Aaron on April 26, 2012, 05:25:23 PM: Nice cannon. Is it from a kit?
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Post by: DonVoss on April 26, 2012, 05:32:22 PM: The "shield" is from the Zvezda siege-kit, the cannons are from victrix. The rest is scratchbuild from plasticcard.

Perhaps one can see it best from the back of the cannon.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/SW3.jpg)

DV... :)
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Post by: Captain Blood on April 26, 2012, 06:10:01 PM: That is a very nice construction.

Yes, work in progress models are very in vogue you know ;)
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Post by: DonVoss on April 26, 2012, 07:03:54 PM: Quote
Yes, work in progress models are very in vogue you know

Thats certanly true, with +1200 klicks for a thread without any paint... lol lol lol

Okay, than I should perhaps not be too shy and show my WIP-Carroccio... :D

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/P1.jpg)

DV
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Post by: tomek917 on April 26, 2012, 08:46:13 PM: Quote from: DonVoss on April 26, 2012, 07:03:54 PM
Thats certanly true, with +1200 klicks for a thread without any paint... lol lol lol
lol

And that Caroccio looks good! For which city-state will it belong?
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Post by: Admiral Benbow on April 26, 2012, 10:19:10 PM: Lovely thread, DV!
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Post by: DonVoss on April 27, 2012, 01:11:15 AM: Thanx, Admiral... ;)

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For which city-state will it belong?

erm, its for the papal state... :o

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/Renais/P3.jpg)

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/Renais/P2.jpg)

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/Renais/P4.jpg)

So the army of the pope will be the 4th faction.
I know the caraccio was probably not used by the papal state, so count it for the wierd stuff...;)

Cheers,
DV
Title: Re: Don's Wierd Condotta
Post by: commissarmoody on April 27, 2012, 01:33:30 AM: Thouse are some nice papal bulls. :D

So I guess the Pope will have strange magical/god given powers then. Maby even have an angel or to.
I forget, what rules are you useing agine?
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Post by: Arlequín on April 27, 2012, 09:26:46 AM: Quote from: DonVoss on April 26, 2012, 05:20:19 PM
Here an unpainted preview, a new thing quite popular at the moment I think... lol

It was only a matter of time before the 'unpainted figure' gamers had a wider influence. :D

I'm quite enjoying all this btw. :)
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Post by: Blackwolf on April 27, 2012, 09:49:13 AM: Nice thread! Wonderful painting and modelling,rather inspiring :D
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on April 27, 2012, 10:07:33 AM: You certainly are cranking these out at a great rate 8)

Love the caraccio :-*

cheers

James
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Post by: Dalauppror on April 27, 2012, 11:42:45 AM: Stunning caraccio.

Hand painted icon?

Best regards Michael
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Post by: Furt on April 27, 2012, 12:08:00 PM: This is all really nice stuff and a great subject.
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Post by: Aaron on April 27, 2012, 12:20:03 PM: Quote from: DonVoss on April 27, 2012, 01:11:15 AM
I know the caraccio was probably not used by the papal state, so count it for the wierd stuff...;)

Cheers,
DV

Well, not until the Vampire of Venice attacked them, anyway. Did you really paint this up so beautifully in such a short time? I am beginning to suspect you have a supernatural element yourself!
Title: Re: Don's Wierd Condotta
Post by: DonVoss on April 27, 2012, 12:33:46 PM: Quote
Well, not until the Vampire of Venice attacked them...

Yesss!... :)

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Did you really paint this up so beautifully in such a short time?

No. It took me 6 hours yesterday evening to paint up the caroccio and the shileds with the papal signs. The picture of holy mary is a print again, of course... ;)
The oxen were already painted to a good degree.
So I would say, it was quite a long time...

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So I guess the Pope will have strange magical/god given powers then. Maby even have an angel or to.

Yes, he has magnificent powers, but can't leave his throne, because of his constant mind-battle with the deamons, wich try to find an entrance in this world.
So he sends one of his sons, to battle it out... :D

No plans for angels yet...

@rules
I will go for "this very ground" with a lot of add ons for the wierd stuff.
The rules where used before by my gaming group for all kinds of stuff, even for vikings and did very well: fast, easy to understand...

Cheers,
DV
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Post by: Totleben on April 27, 2012, 04:16:29 PM: Meravigliosamente fatto. :)
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Post by: dodge on April 27, 2012, 05:57:08 PM: just love the whole idea, excellent scratch building and painting :-*
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Post by: commissarmoody on April 28, 2012, 08:26:51 AM: A Vampire in Venice! :o
Wait tell the Doge finds out! ::)
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Post by: Arlequín on April 28, 2012, 08:34:55 AM: The Doge is eternal... so he'll likely be head vampire. ;)
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Post by: commissarmoody on April 28, 2012, 04:06:57 PM: I knew that the postion was for life, but eternaty is along time lol
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Post by: valleyboy on April 28, 2012, 09:36:04 PM: Brilliant :-*
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Post by: luidinuovo on April 30, 2012, 07:41:24 AM: I like the Idea.
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Post by: Hendrid on May 03, 2012, 03:59:45 PM: Great thread and some great models too. Look forward to the next exciting installment...
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Post by: Nighthawk on May 04, 2012, 12:38:27 AM: In a word......Awesome. Love the idea. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one painting Swiss in Yellow and black. :D
Title: Re: Don's Wierd Condotta
Post by: DonVoss on May 05, 2012, 09:57:27 PM: I am glad you all like the idea... ;)

Been busy in the Dark Ages during the week, but managed to build something new for the wierd condottas... :)

Its the start of the next faction...
...just think of towers wich are a little bit out of balance... lol

Its a moving campanile-tank. erm yes: for Pisa.
Perhaps a bit early to post it. Just some WIP-pics, sorry.

Started with a core of styropor. Just raw and sketchy.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/Renais/pt1.jpg)

Glueing it together. Stabalised with toothpicks.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/Renais/pt2.jpg)

Then some balsawood is chopped to the right length.
And giving some detail with the toothpicks to it, carving lines...

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/Renais/pt3.jpg)

Next is glueing the wood to the core.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/Renais/pt4.jpg)

After the tower-base is planked I builded a small lookout at the top.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/Renais/pt5.jpg)

After that a few wheels are added for mobility. The tank will be drawn from inside so it will be pretty slow.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/Renais/pt6.jpg)

So far it looked more like a siegetower so I added two gunpits at each side.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/Renais/pt7.jpg)

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/Renais/pt8.jpg)

Took me 3 hours so far.

Cheers,
DV
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 06, 2012, 12:08:13 AM: lol Love it 8)

cheers

James
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Post by: aggro84 on May 06, 2012, 04:35:15 AM: That's an interesting build.

It looks very promising. :-*
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Post by: commissarmoody on May 06, 2012, 07:05:10 AM: I cant wait to see the completed leaning tower.
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Post by: CyberAlien312 on May 28, 2012, 02:38:12 PM: I really love those minis, DonVoss! You did a terrific job!
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Post by: commissarmoody on June 04, 2012, 07:07:50 AM: So hows the wierd condotta comeing along?
Title: Re: Don's Wierd Condotta
Post by: DonVoss on June 08, 2012, 02:22:26 PM: Quote
So hows the wierd condotta comeing along?

I am afraid its on hold for the moment, because I am lost in the Dark Ages... lol

DV
Title: Re: Don's Wierd Condotta
Post by: commissarmoody on June 08, 2012, 04:11:26 PM: I have can see that. lol

There are just to many great eras of history to game.
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Post by: Faber on June 09, 2012, 09:36:45 AM: Wonderful thread! :-*
Fantasy reinassance rules. Great job Don, keep going!