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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: Captain Blood on April 23, 2012, 05:38:34 PM
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As my friends and correspondents will know, I've been waiting for these babies for what seems like an awfully long time, so having picked up a couple of boxes at Salute, now I intend to enjoy them! :D
Someone remarked to me 'why would you bother assembling plastic figures when you could get straight on with painting metal ones?' (After half an hour scouring off stray lumps of metal and socking great mould lines, presumably).
You may feel the same. Each to their own. My answer is because I find modelling these figures fantastically creative and enjoyable. To see how much character and animation I can squeeze out of the components. Plus, they are simply wonderfully characterful figures to start with. I'm not sure anyone has truly captured the look of a period - any period - as well as Michael Perry has with the models in this range.
So I've already slung a few figures together, and will be doing many more over coming days and weeks. I figured I'd show a WIP thread here as I go. I know people like some of what I've done with previous releases in this range (I know, because people have copied what I've done - and that's fine. I hope people will be inspired by these excellent figures, the pleasure to be gained by modelling them, and what can be achieved with them :))
This will also provide a bit of a review as I go along, and hopefully some modelling hints and tips and watch-outs ;)
First up in a little while...
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Okay, here we go. The first one I made up will be the Captain of my Milanese Mercenaries. I've gone for the body wearing the German gothic armour. And for the horse. There are two types of horse armour included, and both ingeniously fit over the horse itself, just like real armour.
I've chosen one of the new heads from the MMAA set in an open faced sallet. I don't like all the new heads in this set, but I do like this one. Suitably cruel. I also used the new helmetless head - as a head! It was just too much to resist, and everyone knows what happened to nobles on the losing side in the Wars of the Roses... This necessitated a tiny bit of conversion work adding a bit of hand to the rider's right arm. Then lots of poly cement to soften up and mess up the hair and add bits of gore to the underneath of the severed neck.
Please note by the way, the figures are not cleaned up yet, just quickly scraped over with a scalpel and stuck together. The tiny shavings of plastic will be brushed off and all the glue will vanish under the paint.
The front plates of the horse armour don't seem to fit all that well. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, or maybe they just don't fit all that well. Either way, you can see I've used a shedload of poly cement to blur and cover up the join at the breast. This will vanish under the paint, I do assure you.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_23_04_12_7_33_06_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_23_04_12_7_33_06_1.jpg)
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Excellent! I can't wait t watch this progress. I find myself on the metal side of the fence but "watching" an artist of your caliber and creativity with these new excellent plastic sets may...eventually :)...change my mind.
Cheers,
Blue
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lol We shall see...
Next, we have a straight build from the box with no fiddling around. This one is a knight in shining armour, pure and simple. Except that I wanted to visualise him riding down some poor fleeing infantryman after Towton. Which is mainly what mounted troops did at this time to be honest, rarely being used in set piece battle as such.
This one is in the Italian horse armour - a much neater fit over the gee-gee. The rider has couched lance and a high-domed visored sallet with bevor. I have tried to make him stand up in his stirrups as he impales the fleeing peasantry. Swords are all added separately by the way. Getting the angle at which swords hang naturally right, is part of the art of getting these figures looking good...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_23_04_12_7_33_06_2.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_23_04_12_7_33_06_3.jpg)
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Richard
This is an excellent thread, which I (as many others) will follow with immense interest - so firstly thanks.
A great start and I love the pose that you've created - suitably gorey for the middle ages.
I found that rubbing down the sculpted-on horse harness, when adding the barding/armour helped somewhat with the joints and how the armour sits overall on the horses. It maybe that they'll be small gaps that can't be avoided however with some horse-build combinations?
Fantastic - he'll look stonking when painted.
Awaiting more already...haven't started mine yet :-[
Regards, Simon.
PS - the WR and EA ranges are Michael's sculpts by the way... ::)
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I'll echo the other comments, I'll be watching this thread with great interest. Poses so far look great!
With the price of metal now, I sometimes feel like I'm watching Top Gear here nowadays, there's all these Wargaming Clarksons whizzing about with their 'Maserati and Porsche' armies, telling me what I'm missing and it ain't wargaming if it ain't metal etc.
Metal is all well and good, but there is no way you could ever get the variety and potential of these figure 'kits' in a metal range.
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Damn you .. I was content to let you have all the fun with these, but that first one has just tipped me over the edge. I'll be ordering tomorrow. :D
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Heh heh. Sorry Keith... :D
PS - the WR and EA ranges are Michael's sculpts by the way... ::)
Thanks Simon. I knew that, but had forgotten which was which for a moment there :) (Edited my OP to credit the right Perry!)
I read your blog review, and found it very useful, as ever. I shall try the barding rub-down before the next armoured horse :)
Meanwhile, here's the next one... He is a lighter horseman - I am going to make a mix of knightly types in full harness, and reinforcements for my metal scurriers, prickers and what-have-you. I have used the body type with a livery coat over armour, and added one of my favourite heads from the original WOTR box. I have used this head on about 20 figures now, but it always seems to adopt a different expression whichever pose you put it in.
This one is waving his sword to encourage his comrades in the hunt for fleeing fugitives. Tiny bit of jiggery-pokery with the sword hand to get it at that angle.
I've added an empty scabbard to his belt. The horses really are superb. Not sure how many combos you can make up using the different halves and many different heads included, but it must be hundreds. On this one I've used the horse's head with the basic chamfron.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_23_04_12_8_38_42_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_23_04_12_8_38_42_1.jpg)
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Am loving that third one - good job these aren't copyrightable, as I'll copy that one for my Burgundians. Also one of my favourite heads, that gets saved for such models where a stirring battle cry is required!
Is there a full frame coming here Richard ...one more WIP build to still come perhaps?
Simon.
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nicely done matey,
now get some paint on will yer! :D
Please
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;) Yes, you remind me not to build too fast, Roger, because if I make up 24 of the buggers in a few days flat, then I shall then have rather a lot of painting to do for the next few months!
Am loving that third one - good job these aren't copyrightable, as I'll copy that one for my Burgundians.
Is there a full frame coming here Richard ...one more WIP build to still come perhaps?
Simon.
Copy away Simon :)
I have three more already made up plus a couple more in the works. More tomorrow...
Meanwhile, I've also long been anticipating the conversion possibilities of the MMAA set for the foot figures in the first two C15th sets. In fact - because it turns out that the left arms in the MMAA set are integral to the mounted bodies in 'reins-holding' position - the scope is not quite what I'd hoped for...
Still, the new set does open up a lot of additional possibilities.
So I've been working on a few more foot figures too...
Here is one of the mercenary command bodies, with the addition of a new head from the MMAA set - the armet with the impressive feather tower plume. I've also added a right arm from the MMAA set - in the German armour - plus drawn sword. The left arm comes from the Mercenaries box, but lacks the rondelle plate or besagew protecting the armpit. So I simply sliced one off one of the many surplus arms in the MMAA box, a dab of poly cement, and bob's your uncle - another unique figure ;)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_23_04_12_8_38_42_2.jpg)
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quote (captain Blood) The horses really are superb. Not sure how many combos you can make up using the different halves and many different heads included, but it must be hundreds.
Richard 3 body halves x 3 other body halves x 7 different heads x 3 (no armour, italian or german armour) gives us (without changing any stances of the horses)
a staggering 189 different possibilities. This means 15,50 boxes before you have to repeat the horses. If we multiply by 4 basic bodies x an endless amount of different heads of whom most can be put in different positions and the extremely large choice of weapons and weaponarms.... well you have thousands of possibilities before you HAVE to repeat yourself and then you can start cutting and changing parts of the body / arms / heads ;D ;D
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So far, so good :)
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I think I'm going to enjoy this 8)
Are you going to need some oval holes by any chance ;)
cheers
James
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Looking great Richard. Love the severed head conversion.
Helen
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Excellent!!! I have eagerly been awaiting seeing your work on these.
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Bloody hell Richard, not hung about have you. Cracking work as usual, I shall look forward to seeing them painted, then I suppose I will end up buying a box at Partizan ;)
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Beautiful looking minis.
"...3 body halves x 3 other body halves x 7 different heads x 3 .....gives us (without changing any stances of the horses).....a staggering 189 different possibilities".
Certainly much better than ONE horse pose, in my estimation.
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Such great dynamism in those minis! :)
<sits back with a good drink to enjoy thread... ;)>
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What a great thread.
I don't have figures for this period, (not yet, no, no, must not buy).
But am enjoying seeing what you come up with.
Thanks for sharing.
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Very nice Richard !
Lots of inspiration, good to have when I start to build mine:)
Was nice to get a short chat at Salute, I probably seemed quite confused, but Salute was a stunning experiance, might have to go again... ;)
Best regards Michael
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Great! You have a way when putting these chaps together,they always look cracking(I mean plastics in general) Looking forward to the painting :)
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Greetings
not really my time range. But I will follow this with keen eyes. ;) I like to see what you can come up with. The start is very promising already even if I am one of those "metal aficionados" :D
Jo
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Good thread Richard - my boxes are calling to be put together, but there's the small matter of finishing the 1415 English first ;) (and yes, I have voted lol)
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Top notch work Captain :-*
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Thanks for your comments all :)
I suppose I will end up buying a box at Partizan ;)
Good! Don't let that plasticist friend of yours put you off Phil! lol
Was nice to get a short chat at Salute, I probably seemed quite confused, but Salute was a stunning experiance, might have to go again... ;)
Good to meet you too Michael. I hope the long trip from Sweden was worth it. Salute is quite overwhelming - so much stuff to look at (and buy!) but so little time to do it all in ;)
I shall post a few more new builds when I get home this evening.
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Fantastic stuff so far Richard, if this thread is only half as good as your foot troops one, it will still be brilliant :D
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Thoroughly enjoyable read so far.
Looking forward (with much dribbling) to the paintjobs!
;D ;D ;D
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Wonderfull stuff already and not a drop of paint added Cap'n!
I wait with baited breath 8).
Darrell.
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Good to meet you too Michael. I hope the long trip from Sweden was worth it. Salute is quite overwhelming - so much stuff to look at (and buy!) but so little time to do it all in ;)
I shall post a few more new builds when I get home this evening.
The trip was well worth it Richard. Broke my spending budget by far, dont tell my wife...
"Janner" was kind enought to guide me around in London introducing me to nice fellows like you and allso showed me the splendid Wallace Collection (http://www.wallacecollection.org/thecollection/collections/armsandarmour)...or at least the 4 rooms with arms and armours:) So I had some greate days in London and at salute !!!
Looking forward to see your new builds!
Best regards Michael
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Excellent :)
Thanks for the comments... Here are a few more...
Firstly a fairly straightforward knight, just about to turn into a charge. A definite Englishman I think. Clean cut and upstanding. Built from the parts in the MMAA box, but with a visored sallet from the command sprue of the original WOTR set - the classic WOTR helmet.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_24_04_12_9_50_35_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_24_04_12_9_50_35_0.jpg)
Next, number 5 - a ruffianly pricker, standing up in his stirrups at the gallop, looking for the next poor unfortunate deserter to run through the back. Again, the head on this chap comes from the original WOTR box command sprue. It's a great face. A builder's face. When they did a facial reconstruction of one of the men from the Towton grave pits, this was the face. A battered pugilist. Apart from that, he's a fairly straight build from the MMAA box, although I've given him a sword and buckler as befits a brawling ruffianly fighter...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_24_04_12_9_50_35_2.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_24_04_12_9_50_36_3.jpg)
And now, the foot figure bonus... another hybrid, taking a command figure from the WOTR box and adding a helmet, appropriate right arm and hammer from the MMAA set...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_24_04_12_9_50_36_4.jpg)
I have a couple more on the workbench now, including a rather ambitious full cut-and-shut Frankenstein job. So hopefully more tomorrow :)
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I have a couple more on the workbench now, including a rather ambitious full cut-and-shut Frankenstein job.
Be careful about bringing it to life. It'll just chase you around, insisting on talking about philosophy while murdering your loved ones.
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Thanx for showing. I am looking forward for inclouding some of the khights in my projects. And the possibilities seem endless... :D
DV
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This is turning out to be an awesome thread... :o
BTW... shouldn't you be painting a ship or something.. ;)
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BTW... shouldn't you be painting a ship or something.. ;)
Oh I finished that weeks ago Ray... ;)
:D
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Oh I finished that weeks ago Ray... ;)
:D
Ah.. >:(
Do carry on! :)
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More great combos Richard - am really liking the 'pricker'.
Initially I thought the horses look a bit too big for 15th century destriers, but they're not looking that way on your pics.
Simon.
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Stunned by the quality of the sculpts and your assembly 8) and so much looking forward to seeing them painted :)
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I have a couple more on the workbench now, including a rather ambitious full cut-and-shut Frankenstein job. So hopefully more tomorrow :)
Bring it on, Igor ! :D
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to tired to think and my pc keeps crashing but I don't want to miss this so tagging it for later....
Nice models
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These are a must for me in the longrun for Italian wars so I'm really looking forward to see what you produce Richard
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excellent poses, you have a great eye for posing and converting,
brill :D
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Oh I finished that weeks ago Ray... ;)
:D
Without photos it never happened lol
You've a great eye for composition and movement - can't wait to see them painted up
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The trip was well worth it Richard. Broke my spending budget by far, dont tell my wife...
"Janner" was kind enought to guide me around in London introducing me to nice fellows like you and allso showed me the splendid Wallace Collection (http://www.wallacecollection.org/thecollection/collections/armsandarmour)...or at least the 4 rooms with arms and armours:) So I had some greate days in London and at salute !!!
Looking forward to see your new builds!
Best regards Michael
Just sorry I couldn't get down there to meet up with you Michael- a conspiracy between Paypal (thanks Ebay!!! >:() and our car :'(.
Darrell.
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Fantastic Thread keep coming back for more :D
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Ah, wonderful thread, Richard! I'm longing to get my hands on those Perry plastics for my burgundian project and pre-ordered them at Maelstrom Games, but up till now they have nor stocks! Unbelievable ... >:(
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As predicted...pure win! I actually like that last foot soldier you posted best of all...a nice "conversion" indeed!
You best start painting before you have some many backlogged that you get intimidated by the plastic mountain!
lol
Cheers,
Blue
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Thanks Michael. They are well worth it :)
Don't worry Blue. They will see paint!
Today's subject is a slightly more ambitious conversion. I call this one 'The Towton tap' - the fatal knock on the head with a warhammer, dealt to fleeing Lancastrian soldiers ridden down by remorseless Yorkist men-at-arms... The poor fellows had chucked their helmets and weapons away in their desperate flight, and were easy pickings for the pursuing prickers and scurriers, who smacked them down from behind. Several of the bodies in the Towton grave pit bore the telltale square section puncture hole in the cranium from the beak of a hammer swung down from above, or the massive crush damage of a hammer blow. But enough of such gruesome history...
Now in my ideal world, the rider figures in the new Perry MMAA set would have consisted of separate legs, torsos, heads, and both left and right arms.
Unfortunately - for perfectly understandable reasons of space on the sprue, economy, and (presumably) ease for people who want to be able to build figures quickly, whilst the set includes an abundance of heads and separate right arms (with lots of separate weapons choices) the left arm is moulded onto the rider bodies. Each body consists then of rein arm, legs and torso, all in one piece. There are four body types included, in four different styles of armour - but all in the exact same pose.
I'm not complaining by the way, just saying a bit more flexibility would have been nice. But I understand entirely why it was not to be...
However, if you want a figure twisting in the saddle and / or leaning down, you have to be prepared for slightly more ambitious surgery.
Here I have sliced off the upper body and left arm, and replaced it with the forward leaning upper body from the WOTR box command sprue. I've then added a left arm made up in two parts from the same source. The head - wearing a visored sallet, sans bevor, is also from that set. The right arm and hammer are from the MMAA set. A dab or two of poly cement works wonders at concealing and smoothing the joins, and these will be even less apparent under the paint.
And that's it really. Here he is. The Towton tap.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_25_04_12_7_39_08_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_25_04_12_7_39_08_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_25_04_12_7_39_08_2.jpg)
Usual caveats apply - he's not been properly cleaned up yet.
And now another bonus foot figure - this one uses the head and hand axe from the MMAA set, with the arms, body, and a targe from the Mercenaries set, to give me a desperado Scottish mercenary. Tiny bit of conversion to slice away the fingers on the right hand so that the fingers clutching the hand axe slip neatly into place. Again, a generous splash of poly cement covers up a multitude of sins.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_25_04_12_7_39_08_3.jpg)
If I find the time to do one or two more tomorrow, I will. Otherwise there may be a hiatus of a day or two. But fear not, this thread will live on until I've done 24 horsemen ;)
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I love the pose you've achieved with the 'Towton tap'. Positively menacing.
You've reminded me of a great piece the Economist did a while back about the archaeology of Towton. It's a really great read, and I recommend it to anyone – even those like me who don't own any Perry plastics!
'The battle of Towton: Nasty, brutish and not that short' http://www.economist.com/node/17722650
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These look so good! And I like how you manage to give everyone of them a special personality with the conversion :-*
I can hardly wait to see them painted! ;)
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Man I cannot wait to get my hands on the MMAA box. Well I want about two or three boxes at least. I love this period and the ideas you have shown taking bits from the other WOTR plastic sets just makes this a fantastic way to customize the figures. Every figure could be unique!
:-*
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Outstanding work Captain, we'll get you a promotion to Commadore for this 8)
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Another great conversion - perhaps this guy would be useful as the victim for the 'towton tap'?
(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r146/chicks_photos/warhammer_giant_running_man_large.jpg)
Simon.
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More lovely builds Richard! keep em comming!
Just sorry I couldn't get down there to meet up with you Michael- a conspiracy between Paypal (thanks Ebay!!! >:() and our car :'(.
Darrell.
No worries Darrell, we meet up next time :)
Without photos it never happened lol
Heard that one before Janner, have we...:)
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Heard that one before Janner, have we...:)
Could be ;)
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Another great conversion - perhaps this guy would be useful as the victim for the 'towton tap'?
(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r146/chicks_photos/warhammer_giant_running_man_large.jpg)
Simon.
Where did that chap appear from Simon? GW perchance?
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Yep, he comes in the giant plastic box set.
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Giant as in "A giant" lol
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Hadn't commented before I as have been unable to properly see the images but now that I have proper internet access....what a treat!
Great inspiration - I picked up only the one box at Salute (pre-ordered with one each of the foot command sprues.... ;)) but will now likely get another.
If forced to pick a favourite it would be the Towton Tap - so dynamic.
I will probably use many of mine as lights - perhaps even some mounted archers - and as I have yet to start on my metal cavalry, I'd really like to swap their horses out for these plastics so I hope the Perrys will sell the horse sprue separately.
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Love the Towton Tap conversion, well done
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Remarkable work as usual richard and a thread that we will all remain glued to. 8)
I the Towton Tap model :-*, but as an aside, many battlefield archeologists believe that most of the the Towton Hall Mass Grave victims were probably captured and then dispatched. I just though I'd add this proposition- you never know, it may even serve as more inspiration?
In no way does this undermine the idea for the mini as I'm certain many mounted Men at Arms and Scurrers would have been sent racing after the poor Lancastrians..... "A York! A York!" :)
Darrell.
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This thread is so cool. Richard did manage that it becomes interesting just through posting plastic figs but making them looking damn good, almost like painted ones. And now he's earning lots of cheers. All that without using of a brush or paints :D
Very exciting! But now stop teasing, my friend, and start painting, can't wait to semm them more colourful :)
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Yes it is sort of strange that all of these accolades are being heaped up (well deserved, mind you) before a brush has even been applied. I guess it is just a hidden benefit of the plastics. We can all enjoy yet another step in the creative process as the good Captain creates life from bits of plastic on a sprue.
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Another great conversion - perhaps this guy would be useful as the victim for the 'towton tap'?
(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r146/chicks_photos/warhammer_giant_running_man_large.jpg)
Simon.
Yes, but what on earth would I do with the accompanying GW giant? lol
Great idea Simon. As it happens though, I have already knocked up a 'running man' of my own. I shall post him later when I finish work ::)
Very exciting! But now stop teasing, my friend, and start painting, can't wait to semm them more colourful :)
Fear not, Alex. They will see paint soon enough :)
many battlefield archeologists believe that most of the the Towton Hall Mass Grave victims were probably captured and then dispatched. I just though I'd add this proposition- you never know, it may even serve as more inspiration?
Thanks Darrell. Yes, I knew there were competing theories as to whether the victims were despatched in action, in flight, or executed. I think I read that they are excavating more graves at Towton presently or soon, so perhaps the new archaeology will shed light on the grim fate met by so many.
(I do plan to do a post-battle execution vignette as well... Just need to work out the right components... )
More later today...
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I think I read that they are excavating more graves at Towton presently or soon, so perhaps the new archaeology will shed light on the grim fate met by so many.
Ah, actually this is news to me! Very interesting and in it's own little way, about bloody time too! Really must join The Battlefields Trust again!! ???
I do plan to do a post-battle execution vignette as well... Just need to work out the right components...
Excellent. Get it done mate! :)
Darrell.
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Ah, actually this is news to me! Very interesting and in it's own little way, about bloody time too! Really must join The Battlefields Trust again!! ???
Excellent. Get it done mate! :)
Darrell.
Yes, you must... ;)
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Yes, you must... ;)
True. Or face the wrath of Atheling and Janner lol lol
Darrell.
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Okay, so here he is... The running man.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_26_04_12_6_52_17_0.jpg)
He's actually a dead simple little conversion. A standard advancing infantry body and legs, with one leg reset to the run. Bit of a mess around the knee join, but I'll shave that down to shape.
A couple of arms from the bits box plus another one of those useful new bare heads from the MMAA set, et voila.
I shall have to make a couple more of these chaps for vignette purposes...
Here then, 'the Towton tap' about to happen... Poor devil ::)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_26_04_12_6_52_17_1.jpg)
Or ridden down with the lance...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_26_04_12_6_52_17_2.jpg)
Thusly...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_26_04_12_6_52_17_3.jpg)
Not nice, but it's what happened. Cavalry's main battlefield role was to ride down and destroy a defeated enemy army. Perhaps it's why the rural English are still so fond of hunting...
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Thanks for posting these Richard, they are fantastic. :-* I love the sense of movement and character you get in the figures.
Now, if only Little Bob would learn how to sleep for more than an hour I can get on and order a box of these myself.
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A great little conversion with a good deal of dynamics.
Can't wait to my hands on these mounted minis... :)
The bareheads do indeed come handy.
DV
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wonderful work Richard !!!
Best regards Michael
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Wow that's really cool! And gruesome, can't have been a pretty sight in real life.
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A little Serf and Turf. Very nice.
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wow, love the movement in the running figure - brilliantly done :-* (and so simple really - will try a running posture for a handgunner or two!).
The thread just keeps getting better - great inspiration (and immense frustration as I haven't got spare time this week to even open one of my boxes!).
Great work.
Simon.
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Loving this thread Richard - inspirational stuff.
Just finishing my first with Germanic armour. Two tricks that helped were to firstly strip away everything around the horses neck and I've also replaced the 'neck-straps with thin plastic card. That way its easy to melt into curves of the horse.
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Good advice Keith. I shall dispense with the straps on the next one with German horse armour. Looking forward to seeing what you do with them :)
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Next up, we have Waldo The Fleming - a mercenary, signalling his company that the road ahead is clear.
Apart from his head, which comes from the Mercs box, he’s a straight build from the MMAA box - although I’ve quartered the Italian horse armour to use just the peytrals or chest defences on Waldo’s courser.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_27_04_12_7_39_57_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_27_04_12_7_39_57_1.jpg)
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Oh bugger it! added a box to my Partizan shopping list.
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Oh bugger it! added a box to my Partizan shopping list.
lol
It's getting harder and harder to resist ::)
cheers
James
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Another beauty.
I'd also thought of using just the front armour from the Italian barding (...honest guv!) and great to see that it works so well.
Maybe able to prise a box open tonight!
Simon.
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Good luck with that!
Sadly, I have to spend the day in hospital tomorrow for an op on my shoulder, so won't be making any more of these for a few days - unless I can work out how to build them one-handed! ;)
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Sadly, I have to spend the day in hospital tomorrow for an op on my shoulder
Ouch! :o
Hope everything goes well!
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all the best with the op Richard - hope you're soon back cutting and glueing (and then painting!).
Simon.
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lol
It's getting harder and harder to resist ::)
cheers
James
Resistance is futile - come inside the beer is warm and the women hotter ...
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May you make a speedy recovery Captain
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Another superb build and all the best with the op :)
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Wot me esteemed colleagues said...
Get well soon, Richard.
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All the best Richard. Get well soonest.
Helen
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Sorry to hear about your shoulder mate.
All the best for the op.
Darrell.
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Another great figure,
hope all goes well with the shoulder
dodge
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Yes, best wishes for today... but hurry up and get back to showing me what I can do with a few boxes of plastic figures... when I get them.
:)
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Good luck with that!
Sadly, I have to spend the day in hospital tomorrow for an op on my shoulder, so won't be making any more of these for a few days - unless I can work out how to build them one-handed! ;)
Wishing you a speedy recover Capt B :)
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Yes, but what on earth would I do with the accompanying GW giant? lol
Great idea Simon. As it happens though, I have already knocked up a 'running man' of my own. I shall post him later when I finish work ::)
Fear not, Alex. They will see paint soon enough :)
Thanks Darrell. Yes, I knew there were competing theories as to whether the victims were despatched in action, in flight, or executed. I think I read that they are excavating more graves at Towton presently or soon, so perhaps the new archaeology will shed light on the grim fate met by so many.
(I do plan to do a post-battle execution vignette as well... Just need to work out the right components... )
More later today...
If you still need one of these, I have a spare one that you can have if you like, just PM me your adress and I will send it to you. I have 3 of the giant boxes, and yes that might seem like an exaggerated interest in overly grown men, but there is reason, albeit I can assure you that there where never a plan for three of them, heh, just the way it works out every now and then.
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Wishing you a speedy recover Capt B :)
I think he is having an extar pair of arms added so he can paint and assemble at the same time. ;) :D
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Here is to a speedy recovery!
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Thanks all. All done and back home :)
I now have several 6mm scale holes around my shoulder, and my arm in a sling for at least a couple of days. So that's put paid to my modelling and painting fun for a little while. I'm relying on you lot to be entertaining in the meantime! ;)
If you still need one of these, I have a spare one that you can have if you like, just PM me your adress and I will send it to you. I have 3 of the giant boxes, and yes that might seem like an exaggerated interest in overly grown men, but there is reason, albeit I can assure you that there where never a plan for three of them, heh, just the way it works out every now and then.
Thanks Sonny. That's very kind of you :)
I shall have a think about it once I'm back up and running properly.
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I now have several 6mm scale holes around my shoulder, and my arm in a sling for at least a couple of days. So that's put paid to my modelling and painting fun for a little while. I'm relying on you lot to be entertaining in the meantime! ;)
Have a swift recovery Richard. :)
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That's bad timing Cap, have you got your LPL entries finished?
Happy healing :)
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Sounds like you've become the worlds first 'method painter'. Exploring the role of a guy who has been lanced in the shoulder from behind by a horseman... it really allows you to connect with your miniatures :)
Good thing you're not exploring 28mm scale holes... speedy recovery!
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That's bad timing Cap, have you got your LPL entries finished?
Oh yes ;)
Thanks chaps. With luck, normal service will be resumed before too long ::)
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If you type, you can build.
So let's get to work!
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Best of luck Richard
I had a shoulder repair about 2 years ago and was in a sling for a month and off work for the same time, there wasn't a lot I could do so watched a pile of war DVDs in the first week but managed to get painting after 10 days, I convinced myself it would help with restoring shoulder mobility
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I had the same done about 15 years ago after a motorbike smash left my right shoulder in a mess and was painting again after two weeks but it took a few months to heal correctly :) get plenty of films in and enjoy the rest :)
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There are these guys who hold their paint brushes with their feet... just sayin' ;)
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There are these guys who hold their paint brushes with their feet... just sayin' ;)
.... or teeth. You can strap a light to your head too.
Joking aside, get well soon old chap.
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Top work as usual Capt, all very clever, all of which I''l nick lol
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lol Fill yer boots Shaun!
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Well, definitely no painting for a few days yet, but the shoulder is recovered enough to manage a bit more modelling :D
Here's another running man... I've decided I like doing these...
Another pretty simple conversion from one of the standard bodies, with one knee bent up into a run, a couple of suitable arms, and - oh dear, yes I admit it - a Mantic ghoul head! lol
The face looks like it's frozen in a rictus of fear - probably quite realistic under the circumstances...
(Don't worry. When I paint him, the face will appear more human :))
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_30_04_12_4_04_23_2.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_30_04_12_4_04_23_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_30_04_12_4_04_23_0.jpg)
Next up, had a crack at a mounted crossbowman.
Now I know it's probably physically unfeasible to wind a crossbow on horseback like this, but what the heck.
The components are all from the new MMAA set, except for the crossbow arms which are from the mercenaries set.
I had to shave away the moulded-on bridle arm from one of the livery-coated mounted bodies. (That body is definitely the most useful in the set by the way. Wish they'd included two of them, rather than two types of Italian / English / Flemish armour... ::))
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_30_04_12_4_04_24_4.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_30_04_12_4_04_24_3.jpg)
And obviously these two go rather well together...
No wonder he's running with that terrified expression on his face...
How long does a crossbow take to wind? And how accurate is it fired from horseback?
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_30_04_12_4_05_13_0.jpg)
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Absolutely brilliant!
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Thanks Steve. Couldn't have done it without that freebie sprue of Mantic ghouls you know ;) lol
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Cap, these are definitely wizard jobs you are doing here, and a masterclass in conversion. That running chap, and I'm sure you have thought of this, but although the face is ideal to convey the look you're after, would'nt some green stuff hair make him look a tad more human, and if you modelled it streaming out behind him, perhaps that would emphasise the speed of his desperate escape. Just a thought I had.
Like many others I await the painted versions with keen anticipation. Thanks for posting this.
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Medieval ghouls and crossbowmen winching on horseback - just what meds are you on for that shoulder of yours Richard?
lol lol lol
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Cap, these are definitely wizard jobs you are doing here, and a masterclass in conversion. That running chap, and I'm sure you have thought of this, but although the face is ideal to convey the look you're after, would'nt some green stuff hair make him look a tad more human, and if you modelled it streaming out behind him, perhaps that would emphasise the speed of his desperate escape.
Not a bad idea! :) (Although I'm willing to bet thay had baldies in the C15th too ;))
Medieval ghouls and crossbowmen winching on horseback - just what meds are you on for that shoulder of yours Richard?
lol lol lol
Ah yes, the Tramadol might have something to do with it, Stephen! I am almost totally spaced out at the moment :D
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The face looks like it's frozen in a rictus of fear - probably quite realistic under the circumstances...
(Don't worry. When I paint him, the face will appear more human :))
have you tried GW's Liquid Greenstuff? rather ace for things like this chap, very easy and quick to brush a hairline/hairstyle on his head.
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No. Shall have to pick some up... :)
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The running man in the last picture, turned out really well.
I got to ask you, are these miniatures as small as, lets say their ACW miniatures (plastic multi part versions), or are they larger? I would consider getting these if they are larger and not as small.
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Not a bad idea! :) (Although I'm willing to bet thay had baldies in the C15th too ;))
Bald is beautiful ;) :) lol
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Bald is beautiful ;) :) lol
Yeah, and we look hard, ain't that right Nick lol
Superb work Richard, I'd like to have a go but I'm crap at painting armour :(
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(Don't worry. When I paint him, the face will appear more human :))
It would be almost nicer if you didn't, zombie war of the roses by capt blood would be quite cool
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The running man in the last picture, turned out really well.
I got to ask you, are these miniatures as small as, lets say their ACW miniatures (plastic multi part versions), or are they larger? I would consider getting these if they are larger and not as small.
About the same size i think. I must admit i thought they were quite small when i opened my first box a couple of years ago, but I actually get on very well with them :)
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Well, definitely no painting for a few days yet, but the shoulder is recovered enough to manage a bit more modelling :D
Well... that didn't take long.
Bet your on some sort of leave from work as well. ::)
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Glad to see you're back in the saddle...speaking of which I love the crossbowman conversion.
Crossbows were most certainly fired from horseback and a cranequin would have to have been the way to load the bow.
(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r146/chicks_photos/images-1.jpg)
The question is whether they were effective enough to use on the battlefield or just for hunting (which most images I'm aware of relate to), so good that you've also created the target!!
Marvellous...kepp 'em coming!
Simon.
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Yes there were mounted crossbowmen and they used either the cranequin (or Cry) or the pied de biche, which was a lever and hook arrangement. Both hands were required to load the crossbow, but it didn't need to be braced against the foot. The Spanish used a belthook and an extended foot, or so I'm lead to believe.
Having said that....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcpHB-flwJQ
Experienced riders/archers/crossbowmen would be capable of a number of things, however a distinction should be drawn between those guys who were skilled riders and those who were inexperienced... they tend to look alike.
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You, crap at painting something? Never thought I would hear/read that? lol
Yeah, and we look hard, ain't that right Nick lol
Superb work Richard, I'd like to have a go but I'm crap at painting armour :(
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Oh my, is the Captain doing medieval zombies? lol lol
Great figures, can't wait till they are painted.
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Oh my, is the Captain doing medieval zombies? lol lol
Great figures, can't wait till they are painted.
OK guys, I was trying to be funny and messed up.
How do I delete this? (Egg on face) :o
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Impressive mounted crossbowmen, perfect for my Kalmar Union War armies.
Its told that the Danes and Swedes made good use of mounted crossbowmen in dence formation called "Skyttar" during the 15th century. I don´t know if they realy fired mounted or was more like dragoons? But they was quite armoured so they was also used to support the charges of the Knights and Svenner (Squires in english).
Keep up the good wokr Richard
Best regards Michael
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Oh my, is the Captain doing medieval zombies? lol lol
Great figures, can't wait till they are painted.
OK guys, I was trying to be funny and messed up.
How do I delete this? (Egg on face) :o
Beg the moderator.... there's no escape from ill-considered comments here at LAF... Mwahahaha.. ;)
To be fair, I saw the picture before I read the text and thought he'd come over to the dark side, and was planning a lance & longbow & zombies sort of thing.
:D
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Never! ;)
(Well, we'll see... :D)
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Hope I didn't scare off the good Captain! :D
Looking forward to an update! ;D
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Have stopped building and started doing a bit of painting... This thread will therefore be fairly dormant for a while... But it will be back ;)
Meanwhile, here is a failure... Well, you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette ::)
I thought I would see if I could 'hybridise' a Perry mounted man at arms with a Fireforge horse in caparison or cloth barding.
I wanted to portray an older school character in his great bascinet and riding a charger with old style heraldic horse-cloths. I've used a Perry armoured horse's had on a Fireforge horse body.
Unfortunately though, seemingly no amount of surgery can make this work. I have cut up and sliced about two of the Fireforge horses to try to make them thinner, remove the saddles, reseat the rider, and so on - all to no avail. The rider's position is too far back, and the horse simply too broad to take the Perry rider in a convincing manner.
So this one doesn't make the grade I'm afraid... Recycle for parts ;)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_02_05_12_10_55_03_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_02_05_12_10_55_03_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_02_05_12_10_55_03_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_02_05_12_10_55_03_3.JPG)
Fireforge. What can I tell you?
Having bought a box of the Templar knights at Salute, I was going to run a separate build thread on those. But I'm afraid the comparisons will be odious... I built one and I may not build too many more.
Suffice to say I'm not loving them.
They are extremely Warhammer-ish in style, and curiously limited in conversion possibilities.
Ah well. You live and learn...
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Ah well. You live and learn...
That's a shame :( Crusader metals for me then 8)
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Shame that hasn't worked out for you, as the concept was really nice. If only the rider sat a little more naturally. :(
Actually, seeing it like that reminds me very much of how the old GW Bretonnian cavalry went together. Lovely Perry sculpted HYW inspired figures, shocking fat-backed plastic horses that you had to cut into to seat the riders properly. Several of mine have very thick Miliput saddle cushions (must have been an outbreak of piles at court that year...). lol
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I'm looking forward to the Fireforge review, CB. I was admiring the photos on line and was seriously thinking about ordering a stack. It would help a lot to know how you feel the figures are disappointing.
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Well, since you ask...
It’s probably unfair but I can’t really avoid comparing the two sets. The Perry box is cheaper by the way, but I can't really see any dimension on which the Fireforge product compares favourably.
They’re not bad – certainly no worse than many metal figures out there. They're just slightly clunky-looking. But I'm guessing they'll take paint very well, which is a positive.
Also on the plus side...
Quality of casting is mostly good. There’s not too much in the way of mould lines, although quite a lot on the lances for some reason. But easily scraped away with a sharp blade.
The unbarded horse bodies are well done. Good musculature and great attention to the detail of the tack. I like the separate tails too – although not the weirdly jagged-looking fronds on the barded horses frame. The tails on the new un-barded horses frame are much better.
There’s a generous choice of shield shapes. Some have the arms moulded on, and then there are some separate shield arms, which makes for a bit more flexibility. I like several of the heads, although for Templars, I was hoping for a few great helms. Still, I suppose they did those with the Teutonic Knights...
On the minus side...
Because the riders are designed to wear cloaks, the separate heads have a very obvious join onto the neck. I don’t like the cloaks because they look implausibly rigid. But if I don’t use the cloak, the back of the head and neck looks weird. It's supposed to be a mail coif and look like one piece. It doesn't. I suppose I could fill it and remodel it, but given that the cloaks are optional, I shouldn't have to fill it. It's a design flaw.
There’s a wide choice of weapons arms in different poses. Unfortunately none of them look natural, and several look oddly stiff. Many of the weapons are outsized - GW fantasy style. They just don’t look real or proportionate. The morning star in particular is ludicrously huge – as big as the man wielding it. About the size of The Witch-King of Angmar's. ::)
The horses are let down by the way the head sits on the shoulder. Either the shoulders are too wide, or the neck is too narrow (I think the barded horses are indeed too wide and barrel-like in the chest) – but there’s a very definite and peculiar-looking ‘step’ around the base of the neck when you sit it on the shoulders. Looks wrong.
The horses’ heads and necks look very 'sculpted' - reminiscent of a knight chess piece. The musculature on the horse bodies is very natural and well done. The musculature on the neck looks fake. Pity.
Overall, a lot of the sculpted detail looks 'soft'. Where the detail on the Perry WOTR sets is sharp and well defined (perhaps slightly less so on the Mercenaries set), here there are areas which I can only describe as 'mushy'. There are also a few rogue 'undercuts' here and there (is that the right word?) where there is no moulding at all. Just a blank wall of plastic. Particularly noticeable on the caparisoned horses.
I really want to like these, and I waited for this set because I thought Fireforge would have learned from the Teutonic knights set, and come up with a refined product second time round. But my sense is they like the slightly cartoony, Warhammer look and they aren’t going to change it. The figures aren’t bad at all, and I will reserve final judgement until I’ve painted a couple. But where the Perry figures look like real little people, the Fireforge figures are caricatures.
I’ve looked to see what I can do creatively with them, and the answer is – not much. The components only really fit together in one way. It’s difficult to put my finger on it, but where the Perry set(s) offer almost endless potential for customisation, these Fireforge knights don’t. Fair enough I guess, because most people probably just want to build them as the makers intended. But to me, they great pleasure and opportunity of the new wave of 28mm plastic figure modelling is the chance to make up endlessly unique figures. And I'm struggling to see how you would do that with these.
Bear in mind though, that I'm probably an unusually tough critic. I'm sure many people will take these at face value and be very happy with them.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_02_05_12_6_03_50_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_02_05_12_6_03_50_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_02_05_12_6_03_49_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_02_05_12_6_03_49_0.JPG)
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Thanks for a good review!
Now i´m glad that I waited to buy some of them.
Best regards Michael
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It's a shame that the Fireforge capronised horses are such a poor fit with the Perry figs - I was thinking of using them for some jousting figure conversions, but they do site very awkwardly - the saddle is in an odd position it seems.
thanks for the overview of the box and contents - will pass on them for now.
Simon,
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I'd noticed the over-sized weapons, the undetailed undercuts and the "gap" between head and neck myself. I was assuming putty and a pin for filling in the gap with something that looks like a mail coif and some shadowing of the lack of detail as some mitigation of the design flaws. Not sure what one could do about the weapons, except to avoid the more obvious culprits.
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Great work on your builds Richard.
I haven't been in the mood to work on my figures much. Do to personal reasons. But you have inspired to pick-up my paint brush and glue and jump back in. Now to order some of these figures.
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Thanks lads :)
Alright, I now have two horsemen, both 'running men', and a new corpse substantially painted. I am going to make them into a mini diorama for the time being. I would show you the WiP, but they will probably end up in a painting competition, so best not for now.
Suffice to say I have discovered that painting the studded, decorative horse harness (sorry, don't know what the correct technical term is) on the plastic horses, is effing difficult. Unlike the metals, the relief is so shallow that it's barely there. It's extremely painstaking work to get it right. Not looking forward to many more of those...
I foresee many more fully armoured horses in my future! ;)
Anyway, having made good painting progress over the last couple of days, I have rewarded myself with a couple more builds... :D
(I've decided that I will only build more figures as I paint ones I've built, otherwise I'll end up with 24 plastic horsemen and goodness knows how many more foot figures, and I won't be able to face painting the lot of them... )
So, here are numbers 9 and 10.
First up, for my Milanese - 'Il Brutto'. A villainous Italian with a mace and a mission...
As you can see, he is a fairly straight build from the MMAA box, but using one of the heads from the Mercenaries box, which always screams 'Italian' to me.
I have however, had a little experiment with the horse armour, sliced off the floral motif embossed on the front peytral, and replaced it with a face motif. Made by, er... slicing the faces off a couple of spare heads (one of the ugly heads I never use - I've got dozens of them... ) Not very historically accurate I daresay, and looks a bit odd at the moment. But once painted in, I'm quietly confident...
I am now working out what else I might add as decorative relief to future editions of the Italian horse armour... Hands? Daggers? British 'Tommy' helmets? ;)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_04_05_12_4_28_23_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_04_05_12_4_28_22_0.jpg)
Number 10 is a scout. I'm afraid that from my two boxes, I've now used 5 of the 6 available bodies wearing the livery coat. It's just so damn versatile. The problem with the knightly bodies is that the only thing you can use them to build really, are, well.. knights. Whereas lighter horsemen are so much more interesting... Prickers, scurrers, hobilars, foragers, scouts, hunters, mounted longbowmen, crossbowmen, pastry chefs... The list is endless...
Anyway, this young chap is on the lookout for the foe, lance and buckler slung from one side of his saddle, sallet from the other. The head is the 'younger' soft capped head from the WOTR command sprue. I have added a spray of pheasant feathers from a Warlord ECW box (I knew it would come in useful for something in the end).
The right arm is a total cut-and-shut from two of the right arms in the MMAA box, because there wasn't a right arm with the livery coated shoulder in the desired attitude... The fingers are from a longbowman reaching for his arrows... I like the way this horse has turned out... Looks very perky. Nice.
But now I'm thinking about having to paint all that f*cking tack... :(
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_04_05_12_4_28_23_2.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_04_05_12_4_28_23_3.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_04_05_12_4_28_23_4.jpg)
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More creative genius.... you git! ;)
Really enjoying seeing these come together ;D
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I really like the scout - very cool! 8)
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I'm loving this, but I feel your pain at the lack of 'lighter' options. You can't make any mounted troops without leg armour... so that's mounted bowmen, crossbowmen, handgunners etc out of the equation. Surely that has to be the next set out?
:?
Still, regardless, awesome and very inspirational thread! :)
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Great stuff Richard 8)
I think the heads work quite well and I'm sure they will look more the part when they have been painted :)
cheers
James
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Exellent thread! I think the idea of sticking that face on the horse armour is brilliant, really looking forward to seeing them painted
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Exellent Richard !!!
Best regards Michael
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More creative wonders Richard - great compositions!
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Great composition with that scout, Richard, very lively! :-*
Today I received the two foot soldier boxes at least and realized how tiny all those parts are ... Well, we'll see about their conversion potential. ;D
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more brilliance from you Richard, I am enjoying seeing the builds sans paint as much as I enjoy seeing your painted ones, I am always thinking what is he going to come up with next... :D
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Am really enjoying the thread, your miniatures and musings.
Keep it up!
How's the shoulder coming?
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Shoulder inside, not too bad - stiff but usable. Physio starts Tuesday ::)
Wounds, small but very sore. Not a fan of dissolving stitches... :(
Painted editions of the first couple of riders will follow a bit later today. Just finishing them off :)
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Shoulder inside, not too bad - stiff but usable. Physio starts Tuesday ::)
Wounds, small but very sore. Not a fan of dissolving stitches... :(
Lets hope all goes well and the Physio suggests several hours a day exercising the shoulder by the wielding of a paintbrush!
:D
Painted editions of the first couple of riders will follow a bit later today. Just finishing them off :)
;D ;D ;D
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Here are my first completed Mounted Men at Arms...
Sorry for the orgy of pictures, but I wanted to show a few angles for the cognoscenti ;)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_06_05_12_2_22_33_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_06_05_12_2_22_33_1.JPG)
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(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_06_05_12_2_24_01_0.JPG)
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(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_06_05_12_2_24_01_3.JPG)
In case you're wondering how they look alongside the metals, here are the new recruits with their respective captains...
Plastic / metal... I don't think you could tell the difference could you? ;)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_06_05_12_2_24_01_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_06_05_12_2_25_13_0.JPG)
As mentioned, these figures will form part of a diorama portraying a Towton-style post-battle 'hunt' (only without the snow).
I'm not going to show the whole thing here until I've run it in a painting competition - but I have also made up an additional corpse to add to the battlefield litter... A spear through the thigh and a vital artery...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_06_05_12_2_25_13_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_06_05_12_2_25_13_3.JPG)
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Wow. :-*
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Great stuff...you have a good touch with horses. Is it safe to assume that the metals are Perry as well?
Cheers
Blue
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Bloody lovely, Captain!
:-*
The horse are fantastic, you can almost see the muscles bunching as they move.
You are correct, of course, they do blend very well with the metals.
Looking forward to the diorama when you are ready to reveal all!
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Wow, very nice! They blend perfectly with the metals. Looking forward to seeing the whole group.
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Very impressive... :-* :-* :-*
DV
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Yowsa. :o
I love how you paint armour. Oh, and the bright colours, the horse tones... lol
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Lovely, love the purple and yellow!
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Now these are sweet, aren't they? Fabulous conversions and painting. Congrats to winning me finally over to these plastic beauties. :D
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Talented, injured git lol
Love 'em :-*
I particulary like the metal effect on the horse barding 8)
Rings on Friday?
cheers
James
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Rings on Friday?
Yes please :D
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Madre Mia!
Those are outstanding! :-*
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Wow indeed... ;D
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Tres magnifique :-*
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You are the Master.
Just love your painting.
:-* :-* :-*
Thanks for the enjoyment of seeing your figures.
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Beautiful :D
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Excellent!
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You sir are outrageously talented. Sublime work.
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Fantastic! :o
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Stunning work Richard !!!
Please tell a little about what kind of bases you use for your mounted men? size and shape ?
Best regards Michael
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Amazing work as per normal!!!
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Tres magifique :-*
I presume that's Mexican for the dog's bollox, I agree with my learned friend :-*
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I presume that's Mexican for the dog's bollox, I agree with my learned friend :-*
lol
Corrected for outrageous spelling mistake. ::)
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Simply lovely!
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Jesus Jones those are good :o
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As usual your work is making me stare in awe!
Simply great!
Greetings from Bremen
GS
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Wow! Wonderful poses, you did a splendid job, Captain!
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They look superb Richard. I agree that the metals and plastics mix well (just done my first small group).
I need some more colour variations for horses - can I ask what paint colours you use for those two as they look great shades for horse flesh?
Looking forward to the next.
Simon.
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Thanks Simon and all. Appreciate the comments and feedback. I have more conversions on the go, and more painting on the table, so more pics quite soon I hope...
I need some more colour variations for horses - can I ask what paint colours you use for those two as they look great shades for horse flesh?
Sure.
- The darker horse (the Towton Tap) is Palmer Prism craft acrylic (ex-'Inscribe' craft acrylic) Burnt Sienna. The base layer is Burnt Sienna with a bit of black to darken it down; the main coat is straight Burnt Sienna; the highlights are Burnt Sienna with a touch of Vallejo Bright Orange mixed in. And then the very final highlight adds a touch of white into the Burnt Sienna / Bright Orange mix.
- The lighter horse is GW Bestial Brown (now sadly discontinued), again with a bit of black mixed in for the basecoat, and a bit of white mixed in for the highlights.
The metal personality figure (meant to be Salisbury I think, although he's not Salisbury in my little private WOTR universe) is riding a horse painted in the same colour.
Please tell a little about what kind of bases you use for your mounted men? size and shape ?
They are mounted on 40mm round steel washers, Michael. Just the right size for a 28mm scale horse base.
I use the same size bases for my dead bodies ::)
Men on foot I mount on 25mm round steel washers.
Is it safe to assume that the metals are Perry as well?
Yes indeed.
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Very nice paintjobs. I especially like your colour combining.
That said I must say that I find the metal is somewhat lacking a bit of depth. Don't kill me! lol
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That said I must say that I find the metal is somewhat lacking a bit of depth. Don't kill me! lol
We shall talk about this when we meet in Germany at the weekend... I am bringing my axe ;)
lol
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I really wish that I could say something constructive instead of just gushing, but I can't, so :-* :-* :-* :-* will have to do instead!
My mounted men at arms are (hopefully) on the way this week, along with a box of bows and bills, so this thread has come at a perfect time for inspiration, even if it is making me bloody impatient for mine to show up!! ::)
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Thanks Richard for the base info, thought your mounted men was on oval bases at first.
Best regards Michael
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Many thanks Richard - I still have Bestial Brown around, so will try it out.... now cross-matched to 'Mournfang Brown' in new GW range I understand (hope it's a close match).
Simon.
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Very nice work Richard. Love the detail on all you have painted.
Cheers,
Helen
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Stunning painting 8) 8) 8)
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Jeepers - those are a win Captain!
Beautiful work.
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Stunning work Richard :-* :-* :-*
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I still have Bestial Brown around, so will try it out.... now cross-matched to 'Mournfang Brown' in new GW range I understand (hope it's a close match).
Simon.
Mine is still going as well but it's getting a little low now lol
'Mournfang Brown' eh? Silly name ::)
cheers
James
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'Mournfang Brown' eh? Silly name ::)
James
One of the Sussex Mournfang-Browns, no doubt.
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I'm tempted to use these figures for the War of the Castilian Succession (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Castilian_Succession). I'll probably have to convert some Aragonese type helmets and add adargas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adarga) but they look spot on.
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We shall talk about this when we meet in Germany at the weekend... I am bringing my axe ;)
lol
Off to Ulm?
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I'm tempted to use these figures for the War of the Castilian Succession . I'll probably have to convert some Aragonese type helmets and add adargas but they look spot on.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-UcpfQiF1PFU/ToF076afzsI/AAAAAAAACwk/y7mcyWNpMuE/s720/001.JPG?gl=ES)
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Well they look like they would fit perfectly for late medieval Spanish, don't they? :)
Those Aragonese helmets are lovely. Very shapely and sinister. Shame the Perrys didn't include one in the Mercenaries box, but I guess they had so many styles to choose from, and these are rather specific to Iberia...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Capillo_barbote2.JPG/355px-Capillo_barbote2.JPG)
Anyway...
I've managed to build another mounted crossbowman...
I have also figured out the rather obvious way round the shortage of livery-coated bodies in the MMAA set...
So for this figure, I have sliced off the 'riding legs' from one of the knightly bodies and grafted them onto a torso chopped off one of the standard infantry bodies (the one with the open coat worn over a breastplate).
A pair of crossbow arms and accessories, plus one of the spiral-fluted kettle-hatted heads from the Mercs box, and we have another villainous Milanese soldier of fortune, ready to dispense death from horseback...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_08_05_12_6_30_11_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_08_05_12_6_30_11_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_08_05_12_6_30_11_2.JPG)
The infantry bodies are noticeably deeper in the chest and torso generally then the rider bodies, and the skirts of the coat stick out a bit further back and front.
So I also had to do a little minor surgery on the horse, slicing off the rear saddle back, and replacing it with a new one - cut from the bottom of a pavise and reshaped slightly :)
I think it works okay...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_08_05_12_6_30_11_3.JPG)
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The infantry bodies are noticeably deeper in the chest and torso generally then the rider bodies,
That's the norm for an infantryman over a donkey walloper - you may also find the rider's are weaker (or at least limper) around the wrist ;)
Nice conversions - seems like you have quite a band of no-good coming along there...
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He's my favourite (so far...... Am expecting more goodness to come ;-). )
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That is excellent... is there no end to the options from a few boxes of figures? :)
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That is excellent... is there no end to the options from a few boxes of figures? :)
I think the three Perry medieval box sets are the current pinnacle of plastic miniatures- which the Captain is clearly displaying. He's the best advertising Perrys could hope for!
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Thanks.
By the way, see this helmet...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Capillo_barbote2.JPG/355px-Capillo_barbote2.JPG)
...I reckon I can take one of these spiral-fluted kettle-hatted heads from the Mercs box (as on the figure above), pair it with the bevor from one of the enclosed sallets on the WOTR command sprue, add a bit of molten sprue to raise the crown to a point, and create a miniature wearing one of those... :D
Well, there's my next challenge sorted out... ;)
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Well, there's my next challenge sorted out... ;)
Pics or it didnt happen lol
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Well, there's my next challenge sorted out... ;)
Might as well cast a few up in resin at that point :)
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Agreed! Resin heads for all!
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Exellent work I'm really enjoying this thread! I have been working on a figure with one of those Spanish helmets btw you should see him soonish...been meaning to do one for ages
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And the loveliness continues although I had to go back three pages to find out where I had left off :D as so much had happened 8)
looking forward to more as always
dodge
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Might as well cast a few up in resin at that point :)
I need to make copies of various items for conversions. Does anyone know were to find reusable moulds in Europe? Something like this:
http://amazingmoldputty.com/
http://compositherm.com/
@Captain Blood, lovely conversions BTW.
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I need to make copies of various items for conversions. Does anyone know were to find reusable moulds in Europe?
I'm using this:
http://www.metalclay.co.uk/oyumaru-instant-mold-moulding-compound/ (http://www.metalclay.co.uk/oyumaru-instant-mold-moulding-compound/)
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Pics or it didnt happen lol
Hmmm... Unfortunately, it might not happen, or at least for a while, since having checked the sprue-mountain, that was the last one of those heads I had... :'(
I shall need to order another Mercs command sprue or two from the Perrys... ::)
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(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-UcpfQiF1PFU/ToF076afzsI/AAAAAAAACwk/y7mcyWNpMuE/s720/001.JPG?gl=ES)
;D Where did you get the shields?
BTW, the only complete XV C. Portuguese armour is in the Toledo Cathedral. Here is a recent reproduction: http://www.ageofarmour.com/instock/italian-export-armour.html
A great iconographic source for late XV C. Portuguese armies are the Pastrana Tapestries (Google "Tapeçarias, Tapestry, Pastrana").
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;D Where did you get the shields?
I am sure Tag sell them
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I am sure Tag sell them
http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/home.php?cat=82&sort=productcode&sort_direction=0&page=7 (http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/home.php?cat=82&sort=productcode&sort_direction=0&page=7)
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Capt your an inspiration thank you for the posts love the figs :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Just caught up with the final page of this thread!!
Absolutely brilliant conversion work in all depts Cap'n. You've really caught a natural look and a dymnamic flow to all the work.
It get's a 10 out of 10 from me!!
:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Darrell.
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Good work with the 2:nd mounted crossbow men !!!
Best regards Michael
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Really cool stuff man. You're the reason I registered to this forum! :D
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Now the rest of the awesome LAF painters are feeling miffed!! lol ;D
Really cool stuff man. You're the reason I registered to this forum! :D
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Cool painting and pics cheers
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Really cool stuff man. You're the reason I registered to this forum! :D
Now the rest of the awesome LAF painters are feeling miffed!! lol ;D
I'm willing to admit Captain Blood is why I joined :)
(Mostly anyway, I've liked the Prof's sites for years!)
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Now the rest of the awesome LAF painters are feeling miffed!! lol ;D
Well, I had just googled "painted perry mounted men at arms", and this was the third result. ;)
Don't feel bad everyone, I'll try to look at the other plogs too. :p
Also, what is poly cement?
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Wicked cool ;D
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Wicked cool ;D
lol
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lol
You know better than to encourage him :o
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Been looking at this as it develops. I wasn't going to buy a box as I thought I'd already got enough mounted WOTR figures already, but now...
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This is really amazing, you should change your nick from Captain Blood to King Conversion :D
Outstanding work :o
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Just stumbled onto this thread and have to say OMG!! I know your painting style is already incredible Capt, but it is so suited to these plastics, like they were made for each other! I just have to drool.
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Wow, those really are stunning. The painting is only surpassed by the beautiful dynamic conversions. I love the Townton tap and the running man. Whether it is historically accurate or not, it absolutely looks the part. :o:-*
That settles it. I have to buy a box of the MMAA (or two, or three...). Maybe a box of French dragoons and the WOTR infantry as well so I can convert some mounted archers with riding boots. Vade retro satana!!
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Thanks all :)
That settles it. I have to buy a box of the MMAA (or two, or three...). Maybe a box of French dragoons and the WOTR infantry as well so I can convert some mounted archers with riding boots. Vade retro satana!!
Sounds like a great plan! :D
The Aragonese helmet conversion is finished, and I've painted another of the mounted knights... pics tomorrow I hope, just need to finish basing tonight ::)
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Great job Richard/Capt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very inspirational...keep up the good work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)
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Well I haven't quite finished the basing on the latest painted offerings - but I did manage to build another mounted figure, which completes my first 12, or a full boxful.
Figured I ought to build at least one straight from the box without any fiddling about. So the next one is a knight in Italian style armour with lance. As you can see, I'm still striving for poses which are slightly less predictable though. In this case, I'm sure it's possible to canter along with your lance held perfectly vertical, but I reckon that for the most part, the average rider would probably let his lance rest on his shoulder if he was riding any distance - which is the attitude I've tried to capture with this figure...
Actually, I did a minor bit of conversion after all, because I decided to shave the studs off the horse trappings for a slightly different look. This took all of two minutes with a sharp scalpel, so probably doesn't count as a conversion as such ;)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_17_05_12_9_32_27_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_17_05_12_9_32_27_1.jpg)
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Such a natural-looking pose 8)
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Yep, another great pose and I agree on a likely one for taking up the weight of a lance (will slip a couple of those into my next unit I think :) ).
Looking forward to seeing some painted MAAs; it's be a great finish to a long week at work!
Simon.
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neat and simple, good work !
Best regards Michael
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Nice work, simple and effective,
looking forward to seeing the latest painted
dodge
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Have you tried mounting any of the metal riders on the plastic horses Richard or do you think weight would be an issue?
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Haven't tried that Stephen, but shall give it a go and report back :)
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Janner,
I have used a Perry metal 'scurror' on a plastic MAA horse. The overall fit is excellent - the only adjustment required is to remove the back of the saddle from the horse, as the metals have this cast on. Fairly straightforward cut and smooth down and then you're OK. No issue with the figure being too heavy.
Hope that helps,
Simon.
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What Simon said. I've put Brigade Games metal riders on Perry plastic horses without any problem : they were Egyptian campaign Napoleonics rather than medievals but the idea is the same. I recommend pinning the riders to their mounts for added solidity and stability though.
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Right then... A bit more painting finished...
First up, the commandante of my Milanese condottieri - Leonardo il Bastardo :)
Owing to the passing likeness of Leonardo's gruesome trophy to a certain Mayor of London, I am tempted to christen this piece 'Bring me the head of Boris Johnson' ;)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_18_05_12_10_56_49_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_18_05_12_10_56_49_2.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_18_05_12_10_56_49_1.jpg)
Next up is my attempt at the Aragonese helmet... Thanks to Jollybob for kindly posting through emergency supplies of the fluted kettle hat head from the Mercenaries box. Cheers Rob :)
The conversion is solely achieved using generous amounts of liquid polystyrene cement and shavings of sprue... I don't think it's quite right, but it's in the right kind of area...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_18_05_12_10_56_49_3.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_18_05_12_10_56_49_4.jpg)
'Pay me for the head, senor... '
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_18_05_12_10_57_29.jpg)
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Well I haven't quite finished the basing on the latest painted offerings - but I did manage to build another mounted figure, which completes my first 12, or a full boxful.
Ok guys c'mon lets have a whipround and buy him another 1/2 dozen boxes to see what wonders he can come up with - you know it'll be worth it :D
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jesus jones and Bloody Nora all rolled into one
Those are superb Richard :-*
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Ok guys c'mon lets have a whipround and buy him another 1/2 dozen boxes to see what wonders he can come up with - you know it'll be worth it :D
I'd happily make that a dozen dozen ;)
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First up, the commandante of my Milanese condottieri - Leonardo il Bastardo :)
Owing to the passing likeness of Leonardo's gruesome trophy to a certain Mayor of London, I am tempted to christen this piece 'Bring me the head of Boris Johnson' ;)
'Pay me for the head, senor... '
But of course, he would be speaking Catalan, not a despised language like Castillian.
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Wonderful painting Richard and the helmet conversion is really impressive. :-*
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Wonderful painting Richard and the helmet conversion is really impressive. :-*
Agreed
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Splendid stuff, dare I say wicked, cool, but I can't see any washes though ;)
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I forgot to wash again... ::)
I did give Leonardo 'blued' armour though ;)
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Very nice indeed :-*
Now stop all this modern crap and paint some proper knights ;D
cheers
James
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Very good all round
especially the leader :)
dodge
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Excellent job, Richard! :o :-* The aragonese helmet looks fantastic.
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Bought the minis (amongst others) Richard,couldn't resist after seeing your (yet again) fantastic work.......ended up spending $450 Aus.,retail therapy the wife calls it....
Guy
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I do wonder if the Perry's have ever viewed your work Richard - your skill being a showcase for their skill and all that. Anyways, there are a fair few (me included) that have become 'Perry Plastic' and WotR converts after seeing what you have been able to achieve.
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I do wonder if the Perry's have ever viewed your work Richard - your skill being a showcase for their skill and all that.
I don't think they frequent LAF or the other two forums I'm a member of... ::)
;)
Just spent some more money with them last night again though... Finally I have succumbed to artillery... o_o
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Just spent some more money with them last night again though... Finally I have succumbed to artillery... o_o
Haha!
I have one piece but it's a long way down the painting queue.
Baggage train......?!
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I seriously considered buying all the wagons in a moment of weakness... Then I thought - nah, I'd never use them, and painting draft animals is soooo tedious... I did buy the labourers though ;)
I've nearly finished painting another of my mounted figures... Hopefully pics later (or tomorrow, depending on how much gardening I am obliged to do today... :()
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well if your painting skills are to go by then your gardening must be amazing :D
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Very nice work as usual, Richard! Looking at your "Bastardo"-knight it seems you connected the two back armour plates on top of the mount's back. Those plates were just attached to the sides of the horse with straps as can be seen here:
(http://www.arador.com/gallery/15c-3.jpg)
I'm working with the WotR-plastics myself now and was a bit disappointed about the lack of information for installing the horse armour plates correctly. Did you realize that there are two types of front plates for that armour as well? Very small letters "A" and "B" on the back of those parts, and if you try the parts on different horse body halves you will notice slightly different curves on that parts. But no hint how to use them ... :?
Don't want to be a faultfinder, just give some hints I've learned myself when working with those kits.
:)
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Thank you Michael. That's useful info and a great picture :)
No, the instructions are not that great are they? I think they could have done more with them for better guidance.
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The conversion is solely achieved using generous amounts of liquid polystyrene cement and shavings of sprue...
oh, that's soooo 1970's lol
I doubt if most gamers have even heard of that technique, nice one. ;)
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Hi all! I've been following this thread for a while now, like your work cpt. Very inspiring ;)
I've ordered some of these men, still on their way but got a full A4 page with conversion ideas. Have copied and modified some of your ideas Blood, if you don't mind :)
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Not in the least :)
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Stunning stuff Richard. :-* 8)
oh, that's soooo 1970's lol
I doubt if most gamers have even heard of that technique, nice one. ;)
Cap'n Blood channelling Stan Catchpole? ;)
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lol
Right, another one finished - despite four hours pruning trees this afternoon ::)
I've painted the scout, who is joining the retinue of Sir Robert Tenchley of Staffhurst...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_20_05_12_7_17_22_2.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_20_05_12_7_17_22_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_20_05_12_7_17_22_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_20_05_12_7_17_22_3.jpg)
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As awesome as the first ones! I really like the freehand painting on his chest. Looking forward the banner bearer :)
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I really like the black on the horse, not like a cow at all lol
In all seriousness though, another cracking paint job :-*
I'll get your rings and other bits sent off tomorrow.
cheers
James
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Amazing work on these, Captain! I love them!
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More stunning work :o :-* :o :-*
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Stunning paint job Richard!!!
I´m realy impressed! I just love the bright colours !!! :-* :-* :-*
Best regards Michael
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Nice purple you got there!
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Nice purple you got there!
lol
Ah, you Danes... ;)
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more fantastic work Richard,
dodge
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That one has come out very well indeed - impressed :)
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Just found this thread; wonderful imagination and execution. This looks like a lot of fun to do, and a real joy to look at.
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Thanks chaps.
I really like the black on the horse, not like a cow at all lol
I've given up painting apaloosas and the like, since your cow comment >:(
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Beautiful paintjob!
:-*
Great feeling of movement there, too.
Wonderful.
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Definitely looking forward to seeing how that ghoul head is going to come out under your brush, Richard
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More and more lovely stuff, Cap!
I was just curious on the basing. Is it for specific system or just for any skirmish game? :) The whole plastic affair appeals to me as an old 40k player and I wouldn't mind doing a rag-tag force of mercenaries roaming around :)
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Is it for specific system or just for any skirmish game? :)
Just for large scale skirmish gaming, like this...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/9/577_02_10_11_1_28_54_3.JPG)
Thread here...
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=33622.0
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Stunning !!! :-*
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Good to see some more splendid, convincing and inspiring concoctions Richard, I see that you can paint a bit too ;)
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Fantastic!
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Just for large scale skirmish gaming, like this...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/9/577_02_10_11_1_28_54_3.JPG)
Thread here...
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=33622.0
Now thats lovely
Please sir can we have some more?
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Thank's Cap, totally missed that thread earlier :)
Damn, now I'm into yet another bloody system...
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So where are the carts again?
I'll get my coat...
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And now, a minor diversion while I am waiting for the varnish to dry on the 5th painted mounted man at arms...
I finally decided I need some modest artillery for my Wars of the Roses collection, and have ordered the two Perry field pieces. I'm not all that sold on some of the metal crew figures though, so decided to make a few supplementary plastic artillerists...
(No, I'm not in a plastic arms race with Admiral Benbow, honest - I did these a couple of days ago ;))
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_22_05_12_10_11_22_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_22_05_12_10_11_22_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_22_05_12_10_11_22_0.JPG)
There's been a fair bit of cutting and fiddling with hands and arms to get the positions I was after. (Actually, covering your ears on the outside of the helmet is a bit pointless, but it gives the general idea :D)
The gun captain has one of the new MMAA heads - nice piece, but unfortunately it's one of the minority of heads which is cast sideways on the frame - which means the mould line runs right down the middle of the face. This is problematic. Not so bad with the closed helmets, but with open-faced helmets, it's really difficult to scrape the mould line off without buggering up the face. I don't have many grumbles about the Perry plastic medieval sets, but this is definitely one of them. They should have cast all the heads looking forwards from the frame. I can understand why they did some of them looking sideways (so the mould line runs neatly down the centre line of the helmet), but a mould line down the middle of a finely featured face is a right pain... :(
Back to painted horsemen tomorrow all being well...
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"plastic arms race" - lol
Nice conversions, Richard, and your grumble about the face mould line is absolutely understandable. I didn't use that head for exactly that reason ... but now when I see it on your miniature, I will give it a second try eventually.
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it's really difficult to scrape the mould line off without buggering up the face. I don't have many grumbles about the Perry plastic medieval sets, but ....
get a small paintbrush (0,1) small dab of liquid glue on the mould line, wait, wait, now smooth the mould line into the face with the brush ;)
Any loss of definition you can make up later when painting.
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What a great tip! Thanks Shaun. I shall give it a go... :)
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Liquid glue (I use Tamiya) is great for smoothing plastic surfaces after carving or cleaning mould lines.
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Right then... I have finished painting number 5 of my MMAA builds so far... 'Il Brutto...'
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_24_05_12_3_51_24_3.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_24_05_12_3_51_24_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_24_05_12_3_51_23_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_24_05_12_3_51_24_2.jpg)
I've also had a go at following Admiral Benbow's excellent instructions to produce a composite horse by joining a front end to a back end :D
To produce a nice walking horse, very like one of the Admiral's...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_24_05_12_3_52_36_1.jpg)
The other ends of which - much to my surprise - make this! 8)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_24_05_12_3_52_36_0.jpg)
I think he'll be jumping a fence...
Now I need to come up with a suitably dashing rider to justify such a flying steed!
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Nice painting. I really love that second horse conversion! I can't wait to see the finished product.
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More brilliant stuff Richard.
I think he'll be jumping a fence...
Now I need to come up with a suitably dashing rider to justify such a flying steed!
Or a suitably surprised one as the Horse has Bolted :D
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All round brilliant!
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I think he'll be jumping a fence...
Now I need to come up with a suitably dashing rider to justify such a flying steed!
Or jumping over a terrified foot soldier...
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I like him, good horse hard colour to excellent face within the helm too
great horse conversions
more.....
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Brutto-full
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Love those horse conversions - amazing how such different poses can be so easily created. Am keen to have a go myself now.
Simon.
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Excellent stuff :o
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A suitably heroic pose for the leaping steed? :)
I knew that Perry ACW farmhouse fencing would come in useful for something one day...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_25_05_12_5_55_29_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_25_05_12_5_55_29_1.jpg)
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Oooh I liiike that last one!!! :o
Very dynamic piece. Too bad I know you'll smother it in metallics the WRONG way so soon. lol lol
No in all seriousness very splendid offering you're putting up here. I hope you're going to bring just a tuft of this to Woking.
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Yeah, that's it!
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(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_25_05_12_5_55_29_0.jpg)
I know it's the bit in it's mouth but from that angle my first thought was the horse was smoking a cigar. ;D
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Hell yeah! 8)
Very nice and dynamic!
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Ooooh - very dynamic. I like it. Lots.
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A suitably heroic pose for the leaping steed? :)
I knew that Perry ACW farmhouse fencing would come in useful for something one day...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_25_05_12_5_55_29_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_25_05_12_5_55_29_1.jpg)
I believe shameless plagiarism on my part will be in order sometime soon lol ;) lol
Figures like this really make vignette-style Impetus bases come into their own - though your knight will be based singly of course..
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Lovely composition Richard - the angle of the man at arms helm, looking down slightly, is spot on too.
Terrific...glad that I too have kept that fence casting...!
Simon.
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Thanks Simon. And indeed all of you for your continued interest. I am ploughing on before my enthusiasm runs out... ;)
The advent of Admiral Benbow's cut-and-shut 'walking horse' means we can now create some less frenetic poses...
So here is a new lord for one of my factions (haven't decided which yet).
He's really a straight build from the MMAA box - and my first use of the fancy hat option - but with the addition of one of those very useful 'open hands reaching for arrows' from the WOTR box. And also from the WOTR box, an armet with ducal crest tucked under his arm...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_26_05_12_11_07_03_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_26_05_12_11_07_04_1.jpg)
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You is taking the piss now! :o Brilliant, genius :-* :-* :-*!
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Lovely composition and the horse pose makes a big difference to options - he looks more like an italian condottiere sculpture now.
There is also the Perry metal page carrying an armet that would go well the chaperon head option (in case my lord is too posh to be bothered to tuck it under his own arm!)
Simon.
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The Jumping horse are realy stunning Richard !!!
Best regards michael
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Lovely conversions, but are you planning on correcting the fused-together block of reigns under the horses' mouths?
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Gorgeous conversions! Everything is absolutely spot-on. The movement of the horses, the posture of the riders, the heads, ... It all has a very realistic and dynamic feel to it.
I just can't wait to see these painted.
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Very nice conversions, Richard, especially the jumper!
Don't know why, but I don't really like that fancy hat thing - it looks, err, hhm, a bit like a woman's hat, let's have it that way ... :D
Although it might be a nice addition to my Holy Grail game, should I ever start in ernest.
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I see what you mean, it's something the late Queen Mum would have worn. ;)
I'm just in awe of all the variations that keep appearing btw... keep it up! :)
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Thanks gents.
are you planning on correcting the fused-together block of reigns under the horses' mouths?
No. It does stick out rather on the bare plastic model, but once they're painted it's not so noticeable. And not really noticeable at all on the tabletop.
It's obviously one the few aspects of the plastic figure moulding process that the Perrys and Renedra haven't been able to crack.
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...it's something the late Queen Mum would have worn
I personally like the hat. It may look weird and a bit female today, but if it was good enough for the duke of Burgundy, Philip the Good, it should be good enough for us.
(http://www.internetstones.com/image-files/philip-the-good-duke-of-burgundy-1396-1467.jpg)
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This one has joined the retinue of Thomas Howard, Earl of Surrey...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_27_05_12_11_39_59_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_27_05_12_11_40_00_3.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_27_05_12_11_39_59_2.jpg)
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Beautifully vibrant! Just bloody beautiful. :-* :-* :-*
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Lovely reds, and the usual attractive, confident brushwork.
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8) Every one's a winner baby :-*
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excellent Richard and I see the daisies are out in bloom there in Surrey :)
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Stunning paint job Richard !!! :-*
Best regards Michael
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Amazing work 8)
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Superb
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Great work on this one.
May you give us some picture on the painting process on the next one to see how you manage those colours ?
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Thanks and merci :)
May you give us some picture on the painting process on the next one to see how you manage those colours ?
I did a step by step build and paint thread on Steve Dean's forum which shows how I do it...
Hope that's useful
http://www.sdean-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=25706
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More great stuff Richard, like your cut and shuts neat job all round (remind me not to buy a car from you :D)
Got myself a box at Partizan yesterday, your fault again of course :D
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Got myself a box at Partizan yesterday, your fault again of course :D
Hurrah! Resistance is useless, Phil ;)
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Inspirational. :-*
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:-* :-* :-*Outstanding work Captain! This has been a truly inspirational thread...well done...now post some more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You did a great job converting and painting those riders... Might I ask how you painted the armour? Did you just drybrush it with a metallic colour? Because it looks great! :-*
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Might I ask how you painted the armour? Did you just drybrush it with a metallic colour? Because it looks great! :-*
Thanks. I did a step by step build and paint thread on Steve Dean's forum which shows how I do it - including the armour...
Hope that's useful
http://www.sdean-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=25706
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Thanks. I did a step by step build and paint thread on Steve Dean's forum which shows how I do it - including the armour...
Hope that's useful
http://www.sdean-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=25706
Thanks!! It's very useful.
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Sir Reginald De Brassey of Tandridge, taking a hurdle at the leap in pursuit of fleeing Essexmen... ;)
My thanks to Michael, the brilliant Admiral Benbow, for showing me the way with chopping these horses in half and sticking them back together to make entirely different combos :D
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_01_06_12_3_50_19_3.jpg)
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Bloody hell!
That is one fantastic, dynamic pose that you have pulled off there!
Full of motion.
Great paint job too, obviously, but that horse is amazing!
One of the best equine PJ's I have ever seen.
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Stunning!
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That is bloody lovely, Richard. :o :-*
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Thanks lads :)
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Yep, I hate to say it, but I think you have nailed it with this one. The pose is spot on, the movement of the horse is perfect. :)
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I agree. I have always admired your treatment of horseflesh, but something about this one surpasses even your usual high standard.
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Aside from anything else, that horse just looks so damn happy! lol
"Wa-hey! I's jumpin'!"
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Simply brilliant. With everyone joining in the laudation, I've held back until now - but one simly has to appreciate such a work of art!
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That's just fantastic. :-* I love the pose, and the paintjob is great too.
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Richard, that's absolutely brilliant - the pose and the colours! It's an honour that I could push your creativ genius in another direction. And I will of course copy that horse ... ;D
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SIMPLY, STUNNING RICHARD :-* :-* :-*
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Crickey he's a good 'un. Shame an Essex bill will hook him from his perch!
:D
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I'm not one to casually use expletives, but that is fucking brilliant! :o
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Terrible, you do realise the medieval knight would never wear orange! as it signified the carrot and that was the food of peasants and also its phallic resemblance was such that orange 9much like pink today) denoted homosexuality and was a crime against God................so send him to me where I would not be offronted by such vivid colour mastery nor hisotrical innaccuracy ;) :D :-*
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lol Yes, the button counters have already advised me many times that my colours are far too jolly for real medieval folk... ;)
Anyway, thanks gents, for the ace feedback.
Shame an Essex bill will hook him from his perch!
:D
Phnarrr! In your dreams Steve ;)
I've just noticed there some entrepreneur making up these Perry mounted knights, giving them a rudimentary paint job, and trying to flog them for nearly 20 quid each on eBay! No bids lol
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I'm not one to casually use expletives, but that is fucking brilliant! :o
Thats not what you were supposed to say... ;) lol
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...PS Maybe some kind of wash on the armour ???
lol
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lol Yes, the button counters have already advised me many times that my colours are far too jolly for real medieval folk... ;)
Anyway, thanks gents, for the ace feedback.
Phnarrr! In your dreams Steve ;)
I've just noticed there some entrepreneur making up these Perry mounted knights, giving them a rudimentary paint job, and trying to flog them for nearly 20 quid each on eBay! No bids lol
You know I was joking Richard? :o :D
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Of course, Karl ;)
Even I know that medieval peasants couldn't afford carrots :D
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...PS Maybe some kind of wash on the armour ???
Hmm..... and maybe some eyes?
lol
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Nice one, cunningly placed foliage makes him look airborne too.
As every button counter knows peasants can only afford turnips. :)
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My grandparents were peasants and they could only afford turnips once a year at Xmas. The rest of the year, they had dirt to eat.... if they were lucky, that is.
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The movement and the posture of the rider, really makes this figure stand out (and the paintwork of course) - reckon that pose will get copied a lot.
Great figure Richard. :o
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Terrible, you do realise the medieval knight would never wear orange! as it signified the carrot and that was the food of peasants and also its phallic resemblance was such that orange 9much like pink today) denoted homosexuality and was a crime against God................so send him to me where I would not be offronted by such vivid colour mastery nor hisotrical innaccuracy ;) :D :-*
Perhaps more conventionally, I don't believe orange was one of the accepted colours of heraldry.
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...that sir....is a competition winner!
I have found this whole thread a breath of fresh air - in the way you have shared your approach to this project with everyone...I dont see how you can top it ...meanwhile not to put too much pressure on....lets see some more ground pounders.
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lol Yes, the button counters have already advised me many times that my colours are far too jolly for real medieval folk... ;)
Strap counters surely for plate armour. Oh and the paint job is okay if you like that sort of thing :o
lol lol lol
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Perhaps more conventionally, I don't believe orange was one of the accepted colours of heraldry.
Tenné (or tawny)... it was a stain or tincture. Rarely if ever seen on a coat of arms until modern times (17th Century onwards), but a common crest or livery colour.
...that sir....is a competition winner!
I have found this whole thread a breath of fresh air - in the way you have shared your approach to this project with everyone...I dont see how you can top it ...meanwhile not to put too much pressure on....lets see some more ground pounders.
I couldn't have put it better myself and yes... some infantry too! :)
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You've even captured the correct posture used for jumping when out 'untin' as riders tend to ride 'long' i.e. they lengthen the stirrup leathers so they sit deeper in the saddle and thrust their legs out forwards and lean back when jumping at speed so that they don't get pitched forwards out of the saddle on landing or if the horse hits the hedge or fence as it jumps it. Modern fashion and showjumping has led to this style going out of favour with some, though the old school,and the wiser riders, still stick with it.
Fantastic model as others have already said.
How many are left to do, as this has to be one of the longest threads on this site surely and with legs to carry on going as long as you wish it to!?!
Excellent stuff!
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Lovely paint job at the "Jumper", looking greate!!! :-*
Must say that you are a real master in painting horses Richard !
Best regards Michael
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Thanks :)
How many are left to do, as this has to be one of the longest threads on this site surely and with legs to carry on going as long as you wish it to!?!
Hmmm. Let me see... From 2 boxes (24 mounted men at arms) I've so far made up 14 mounted models and painted 8 of them. I'm just in the process of making a couple more (pics tomorrow, hopefully), and I've also made up several foot figures using bits from the new MMAA boxes. I plan to make up all 24, although I'll probably leave the last few for a while until fresh inspiration takes me, and concentrate on painting the ones I've made.
Truthfully, fun as they are, I already have a dozen metal mounted figures from the Perrys, and 30 - 40 cavalry are more than enough for my large scale skirmish games (since cavalry actually played a relatively small role in the Wars of the Roses - the majority of fighting was carried out on foot ::))
Anyway, here's the next painted example...
This is the second cut-and-shut horse conversion - the walking one (the other halves of the leaping horse... )
I think it's turned out alright, although I must confess, I don't really like painting white or cream coloured horses - my painting technique for horses suits browns much better...
Roderick, Lord Foyle, of the manor of Crowhurst...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_03_06_12_2_20_05_2.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_03_06_12_2_20_05_0.jpg)
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Wow. I love that figure, you painted it really well!!
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Congratz !
I like the details ont the horse (eyes) and the metal !
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I like that horse color a lot, Richard, outstanding combination with blue. What color did you use for the horse?
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I like that horse color a lot, Richard, outstanding combination with blue. What color did you use for the horse?
Thanks Alex.
The horse colour is:
Basecoat - the new GW 'Ushabti Bone' (ex-Bleached Bone, but possibly a little bit deeper) with a dash of Vallejo 'Dark Earth' in it to darken it down a bit.
The middle coast is Ushabti Bone.
Then increasing amounts of white added into the Ushabti Bone for the highlights...
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Foe a colour you dont particular like painting, that is a fantastic job.
I wish I get results half as good as that with colours that I DO like!
Beautiful combination of colours, as the Prof suggests.
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These are just simply gorgeous piece of work Richard. The Perrys should be paying you to take their stuff, not the other way around! ;D
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Yeah he looks smashing! The only thing I'm not
Sure about is his position in the base... In the first pic he looks a little far forward to me... But that is a very minor complaint... Everything else is perfect!
Cheers,
Blue
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Richard, I'm really enjoying your work on these, as on your other projects. Now, if anyone could reconcile me to plastic figures I think it might be you... ;)
David
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Richard, I'm really enjoying your work on these, as on your other projects. Now, if anyone could reconcile me to plastic figures I think it might be you... ;)
David
Haha too true...as a die hard metal fan it's saying something that I have looked at these box sets a couple of times on various web shops since Capt. Started this thread.
Just amazing!
Blue
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Richard, I'm really enjoying your work on these, as on your other projects. Now, if anyone could reconcile me to plastic figures I think it might be you... ;)
David
Aaaaah - thanks David ;)
I know how much you dislike plastics as a point of principal and practicality! All I can say is that the figures are very beautiful. If they could make them to this quality in metal - I'd buy 'em in metal. But once they're stuck on metal bases laden with groundwork, the weight or heft is really not that different to a metal figure.
The only thing I'm not sure about is his position in the base... In the first pic he looks a little far forward to me...
Thanks Blue. You're right. He is a little far forward on the base - but not as much as he appears to be in the photos! :D
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:o I've been a bit tied up with my daughter being born on the 24th, so this is the first time I've been back to this thread in a while, and I've had plenty to drool over since my last visit! My first box finally arrived from Maelstrom games, but of course sods law came into full effect as they arrived two days before the little one did! ::) Still, it's something to look forward to, eh? :D
Anyway, fantastic work as usual mate, and loads of inspiration for mine!
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Congratulations!
(On the arrival of your new duaghter - not your plastic mounted men-at-arms ;))
Enjoy! (Both :D)
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Well, yesterday I managed to conceive and assemble several new builds :)
First up is Count Otto Von Spargel, Hanseatic mercenary Kommandant! Jimbibbly kindly sent me some left over GW Empire accessories. Most of the weapons are too outsized to look real, but one or two of the heads are really too good not to use... Otto wears all the latest German-style harness, with his Sallet slung from his belt...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_04_06_12_12_51_44_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_04_06_12_12_51_44_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_04_06_12_12_51_45_2.jpg)
Next, a charging knight, extending his reach with the lance to spike. I'm not massively keen on the little flag on his bonce, as I think these are rather distinctively Burgundian, and I'm not doing Burgundians, but what the hell... He is (shock horror) in all respects a standard build straight from the MMAA box, with the exception of his sword from the WOTR command frame.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_04_06_12_12_51_45_4.jpg)
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And thirdly, another man at arms. Again largely built from the MMAA box, although using one of the poleaxe arms from the WOTR command frame. I appreciate of course, that the poleaxe was the knightly weapon of choice for combat on foot and not used from horseback. But then, given the propensity for the gentry to saddle up and race off after their fleeing foes in the aftermath of a battle, I see no reason why a few would not still be clutching their poleaxes as they mount up and exhort their comrades to join the pursuit... I doubt there was always a squire standing by with a lance ready ;)
On the horse, I've also shaved off the cruciform trappings over the rump - just to provide a bit of variety in appearance really. A generous slathering of poly cement smooths and covers any last vestiges...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_04_06_12_12_52_53_2.jpg)
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That's 17 of my 24 figures built now :o
I'm going to slow down a bit on building, keep my powder dry on the remaining figures and concentrate on painting the completed builds over the next few weeks...
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They look great again! :) Keep doing those!
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The entire thread just real wonderful stuff Captain!! :-* 8)
Christopher
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Richard, you are my Middle-Age-Painter-Hero. And agein, it is Middle-Age. I won't ask you, if you do other things. This is thing you are doing is so great. Your horse with this pink part in the face, I never saw such a realistic detail.
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Still very much agog here! :-*
That guy without his bevor is just asking for trouble imo though! >:D
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Fantastic work. I have already built 2 boxes of each Perry WOTR set and now I want to buy more just to try to reproduce your ideas.
Mick
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Cheers Mick. I'm an admirer of your stuff on my occasional visits to TMP.
Please feel free to nick whatever ideas you like from this thread ;)
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Thanks - you are too kind.
I wil post some of my own conversions in a week or so.
I am making "temporary" command sets for the Swiss.
I need some officers, 20 flag bearers and 3 war horn blowers.
They will get replaced / added too when the Perry's launch their official versions.
Mick
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Woa! :-* :-*
Impressive amount of splendid conversions and paintjobs. I really like the Count's head posture: really fits my idea of a haughty and vicious mercenary commander. Great model! There's plenty of these lovely conversion details in this project...a real source of inspiration. Thanks for sharing and keep going Captain!
ps: Count Von Spargel's head is my favourite one in that GW Greatsword sprue. Happy to see you use some of those bits, they are really cool, probably the highest quality in the gw empire range. :P
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Cracking work Richard and I'm glad to see some of those bits getting some use 8)
I would imagine that a poleaxe, however unwieldy, would be a terror to behold from horse back! That's certainly something you would never get up from :o
cheers
James
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True James, and whilst getting a decent swing to use the axe head might be difficult, it'll still work as an impromptu spear/lance
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Wow great stuff , your painting on the last two is just fantastic, and you painted the teeth on the last guy :D
great builds, once you have painted the rest I hope inspiration comes back quick :)
dodge
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I would imagine that a poleaxe, however unwieldy, would be a terror to behold from horse back! That's certainly something you would never get up from :o
Perhaps swing it underhand, like a polo hammer? They don't like it up 'em, you know ...
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Magnificent! I barely have the patience to clean up mould lines and assemble them in standard ways, let alone to go to town on chopping and converting into such wonderful poses. I take my big, phallic medieval hat off to you!
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Perhaps swing it underhand, like a polo hammer? They don't like it up 'em, you know ...
More like a Towton Wallop than a Towton Tap.
cheers
James
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Out of interest, this is the most viewed topic on the board, with another two topics on Perry WotR figures taking second and third place!
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They are definitely in vogue ;)
Given the apparent success of the plastic Wars of the Roses sets, one wonders if the Perrys haven't been tempted into producing a plastic set for their Hundred Years War range... ::)
I've got three more of my mounted figures painted... Just need to do the basing now... o_o
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Given the apparent success of the plastic Wars of the Roses sets, one wonders if the Perrys haven't been tempted into producing a plastic set for their Hundred Years War range... ::)
I would kill for a Wars of Religion range...
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Given the apparent success of the plastic Wars of the Roses sets, one wonders if the Perrys haven't been tempted into producing a plastic set for their Hundred Years War range... ::)
That's what I'm waiting for desperately! Bertrand du Guesclin and his men against marauding troops of unemployed mercenaries - that cries for a skirmish game ... Instead they did 2.WW-figs; blahhh
Or another plastic set for the Wars of the Roses: mounted bowmen, crossbowmen, coustiliers etc.pp., in short, all those riders with boots on their feet! They are even missing from their metal ranges ...
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Or another plastic set for the Wars of the Roses: mounted bowmen, crossbowmen, coustiliers etc.pp., in short, all those riders with boots on their feet! They are even missing from their metal ranges ...
That would be excellent and to me is the only thing missing now... except maybe more wagons... ::)
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And some ladies.....
Incidentally, I have ordered the three mounted pages to use their booted legs for mounted bowmen.
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Check this out...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290726731264&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123
Rather nicely painted examples... 'Buy it now' price: 180.00 GBP. Not a bad return for a box costing 18 quid...
Now I appreciate (believe me, I appreciate) the time it takes to paint to a respectable standard - unlike a lot of the dross you see labelled as 'Pro-painted' on eBay... But there's something about shelling out the best part of 200 quid for 12 little plastic cavalrymen that doesn't feel quite right.
Whilst discerning (and wealthy!) collectors have grown used to paying top dollar for well painted metal miniatures, there's something about the instrinsic low cost of plastic which makes this kind of price tag seem highly improbable...
Or am I mistaken?
I guess time will tell whether someone bites or not...
There's another chap on eBay who's been knocking out these Perry plastic WOTR cavalry at 20 quid a pop for the last few weeks - or trying to at any rate... And they're nowhere near as well painted as these, so I don't imagine he's shifted many. But you have to admire his chutzpah... Or impertinence ::)
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I wouldn't pay that, but then again I'm not everybody. Some guy has shelled out £12 a time for 17 painted Harlequin Dr Who figures, while another has paid £12-£14 for painted Crooked Dice figures, all from the same guy... so he has a market.
I suppose the cost is all tied up in the painting... but yes, mentally I'd be thinking "But they're plastic!"
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No, I think you're absolutely right, maybe he's a former employee of Leman Brothers ;)
Again cracking stuff, Captain :o
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Richard, it just means that we're sitting on a fortune for our old days ;D ;D ;D
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I know what you mean, but I have to say Richard Abbott has really a beautiful painting style. He painted a lot of my Sassanids like e.g. these here...
(http://www.ulmer-strategen.de/images/IMG_7860.JPG)
(http://www.ulmer-strategen.de/images/IMG_7856.JPG)
... and I've learned a lot by copying his painting style (alas this was at a time when his prices were more affordable to me). He really has a great eye for the colors, and he gives the figures more than the usual three layers of paint.
So - in many cases I really can't understand the prices that are paid at ebay, but in his case I'm not begruding him any penny of the high prizes he actually achieves (by the way: the war of the roses figures are also sold). I just felt I had to break a lance here... ;)
And besides quality there may be another reason for his success: Given the current crisis and prize-drop of the Euro, many continental Europeans feel the need to invest into something solid - like plastic figures for example lol
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I am constantly amazed by some of the prices asked for on ebay for painted figs. It seems plastic or metal fetch a similar price, so long as they are well(ish) painted. That said, the only reason my good lady puts up with a room full of painted metal and plastic is because I have told her the sale of its contents may feed, clothe and keep us warm for a month or two in our autumn years. That and the fact it keeps me out of the pub.
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No, I'm not in any disagreement over whether the guy (as well as a few members here who paint to sell) have talent, it's abundantly clear that they do. I certainly don't even begrudge them being able to make money from it. Certainly the difference in the figure price becomes unimportant too, when you are talking that amount per figure.
I sometimes get concerned that I pay too much for my hobby... so this is all somewhat reassuring. :D
Exhibit B (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PERRY-MINIATURES-28-MM-WAR-ROSES-BOMBARD-AND-CREW-VIGNIETTE-FINELY-PAINTED-/120904343572?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DDLSL%252BSIC.NPJS%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BUA%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D290726731264%252B290726731264%26po%3D%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D9066161700161169986#ht_5147wt_1129)
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I do agree with most of the sentiments in the recent comments but to be fair, the plastics probably take longer to prep for painting than the metals and as versatile as they are, I must admit they don't feel right :)
cheers
James
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C'mon don't lets hijack the captains thread just to knock ebay painters, there's better targets like Foundry-GW-Bankers lol
In fact Games Workshop's Banker is probably the anti-christ ;D
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Check this out...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290726731264&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123
Rather nicely painted examples... 'Buy it now' price: 180.00 GBP. Not a bad return for a box costing 18 quid...
Well, the fact that they're Welsh triples the price, of course. ;-)
I wouldn't pay the price either, but that is NICE-LOOKING work on the steel armour bits.
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C'mon don't lets hijack the captains thread just to knock ebay painters, there's better targets like Foundry-GW-Bankers lol
lol
Well, it was my own fault, i started it ;)
No, I can't deny the chap is a fine painter, or that painting plastic figures takes just as long. It's really just that plastic figures don't feel like they have the same intrinsic value as metal ones... But hey, someone's snapped them up in pretty short order at the best part of 200 quid - to which I can only say: recession? What recession? There are clearly plenty of people out there with money to burn...
Johan - we're certainly in the money :)
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C'mon don't lets hijack the captains thread just to knock ebay painters, there's better targets like Foundry-GW-Bankers lol
It's not hijacking, it's making polite conversation to pass the time until he gets his finger out and produces more things to wow us. ;)
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The fact they sold at that price is fantastic and makes you wish you could paint so well :o :D
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The fact they sold at that price is fantastic and makes you wish you could paint so well :o :D
Good luck to him :)
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Hm, even if I'll be immediately burn as heretic...I prefer plastic minis rather than metal ones. Well, it is time for getting out of the closet. :D
1) plastic minis are easier to prepare IMO: no pinning, quicker sanding.
2) plastic minis are easier to convert. For who loves to create unique minis plastic means easy kitbashing. This amazing cavalry won't be possible (or yes but it would be your vietnam) with metal bits
3) plastic minis are reliable: ok, this seem senseless but if metal minis fall down (and this happens even in the best clubs :) ) you'll have to waste your precious hobby time by repairing the damages. Plastic minis finished with a decent varnish are very hard to damage. Until now I've never repainted a plastic minis but many metal ones.
About price: plastic or metal, the price is the assembling+paintjob. This means material + time: in that auction there are 12 mounted figure for 180£. It means 15£ for a single knight properly painted (and I'm not calculating the kit cost). To me it seems a fair price if you think at the time needed to paint at that level. Come on guys, a talented miniature painter is a skilled labor not a ordinary worker. Most of the times you need years and years to reach that painting level! What's the value in pounds of a Richard Abbot's hour of work in our opinion?
ps: well, GW are surely the antichrist but I have to confess that if you look their impressive range as a enormous plastic bits market...well I have simpathy for the devil. :)
Ok, now I'm really ready: where's the pyre? :D
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This is interesting
The quality or value of these figures is in the painting so for my mind a well painted plastic fig should bring in as much as a well painted metal one, the metal of course being some sort of cheap and easlity available mass produced lead/tin/pewter alloy
Now were someone to paint a solid gold or silver figure for example one might reasonably expect the figure and paint job to cost a lot more o_o
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About price: plastic or metal, the price is the assembling+paintjob. This means material + time: in that auction there are 12 mounted figure for 180£. It means 15£ for a single knight properly painted (and I'm not calculating the kit cost). To me it seems a fair price if you think at the time needed to paint at that level. Come on guys, a talented miniature painter is a skilled labor not a ordinary worker. Most of the times you need years and years to reach that painting level! What's the value in pounds of a Richard Abbot's hour of work in our opinion?
I don't disagree with anything you say Faber.
I just find it surprising that something with a very low intrinsic value and permanence (bits of plastic) can command the same price as something with a much higher perceived value and durability (lumps of metal). Of course the time spent painting them is the same...
It's all just part of coming to terms with our innate anti-plastic prejudices (and I speak, as you can hopefully tell from this thread, as an avowed fan of high quality plastic figures :))
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Ok, now I'm really ready: where's the pyre? :D
I've emailed Torquemada and he'll be round your house with a hot poker by tea time lol
This is interesting, one of the things that's put me off of plastic is that I didn't think I'd get much for them on ebay if starvation was imminent.
Technically they should be worth more than metal because of the extra work involved in assembly :?
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Technically they should be worth more than metal because of the extra work involved in assembly :?
Technically you're right Chris :)
But actually, although some naysayers have banged on about the extra time and hassle of having to assemble plastics, if you just want to pop on the heads and arms in a basic configuration (as they come from the box), that takes all of, ooooh - 30 seconds?
On the other hand, compared to metals, the moulding detail on plastics is waaaaay better and they require minimal cleaning up (mostly). The average metal figure takes me ten minutes, cutting, scraping, dremelling and so on to clean up. The average plastic figure takes 30 seconds to quickly scrape over the minimal mould line with a scalpel...
I know which I prefer :)
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I have sold unpainted metals and received less than I paid for them and I've seen poorly painted metals sell for similar prices. I've seen adequately painted plastics (admittedly GW) sat forlornly on bring and buys with no takers at the end of the day. There would seem therefore that there is a stigma attached to plastic figures, which to be honest I struggle to understand. I've never bought a metal figure and thought about its future re-sale value, it's been fit for the purpose and I've bought it (and sometimes regretted it later).
There is a preparation time attached to both types of figure, so that doesn't really wash either. The only advantage that metal previously had over plastic was that my preferred sculptors' figures appeared in metal. Plastic figures were either the 'wrong size' and/or in that bendy stuff Airfix and Esci used to use. That clearly isn't the case any more. Plastic figures and their equipment is also more amenable to being produced with realistic proportions than metal, so no more .50-like AK47 armed figures, no more tree trunks masquerading as spears.
I agree that the value of the painted figures we've discussed is in the painting... and whether they are plastic or metal (which incidentally does appear to be reflected in the price structure), I personally just couldn't bring myself to pay the price for them. That isn't to say that it isn't a fair price (I believe they are actually), or even that buying painted figures is wrong or anything... they're just out of my price range.
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I don't disagree with anything you say Faber.
I just find it surprising that something with a very low intrinsic value and permanence (bits of plastic) can command the same price as something with a much higher perceived value and durability (lumps of metal). Of course the time spent painting them is the same...
It's all just part of coming to terms with our innate anti-plastic prejudices (and I speak, as you can hopefully tell from this thread, as an avowed fan of high quality plastic figures :))
Now I'm getting your point Captain :)
And I clearly understand your prejudice. High quality plastic is a recent upgrade. But I think plastic (in various style) is the future. And I'd be very curious to know what the Prof. ,with his superlative miniatures range, thinks about this.
I've emailed Torquemada and he'll be round your house with a hot poker by tea time lol
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Ah-ha! So at tea time I'll run to the nearest GW store asking for political asylum and screaming like a possessed: PLASTIC IS THE FUTURE! PLASTIC IS THE FUTURE! lol
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Plastics have very high start-up costs and you need to shift a fair bit to recoup the initial outlay. So they are great for the popular units, but less cost effective for more specialised units/characters sets. They may well also be beyond the reach of small, artisanal wargames companies.
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I usually only buy metals second hand, because they usually need a good stripping. I've not always had good results stripping plastic.
Pre built plastics aren't assembled how I'd like them most of the time. I'm picky when it comes to my own stuff I guess.
I have a little bit of a bias toward metals myself, although I'm not sure why anymore. Buying plastic figures for games has never bothered me at all.
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This is interesting
The quality or value of these figures is in the painting so for my mind a well painted plastic fig should bring in as much as a well painted metal one, the metal of course being some sort of cheap and easlity available mass produced lead/tin/pewter alloy
Now were someone to paint a solid gold or silver figure for example one might reasonably expect the figure and paint job to cost a lot more o_o
This ^^
Besides, I wouldent mind paying what ever is required from a master painter, if the miniature is metal or plastic is of no concern to me. I must admit though I do prefer resin miniatures over any metal ones.
Come to think about it, I have actually payed a LOT more for a single painted resin miniature, however, the painter is a several times Slayer Sword winner with a crapload of Golden Demons to go with that. Why? Because I reinvested, in lack of a better word, some money that I got for selling other hobby items in to something that I really wanted, a miniature painted by a favourite artist. Yes, some of them are artists. It will yeild a lot of pleasure, like a signed print by André Franquin or what ever you like to have on your walls or in your bookshelf.
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Back to the painting :)
Count Otto Von Spargel, villainous Hanseatic soldier-of-fortune, has a coat of paint...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_12_06_12_10_46_59_3.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_12_06_12_10_46_59_0.jpg)
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Just the ticket :)
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"No, Baron Bond, I expect you to die!"
Love it. :-*
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Brilliant :-* :-*
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:-* Excellent Kapitan, I'll give you a score for it as it's only plastic ;)
That's a great horse colour Richard, there's a fair bit of good old inscribe burnt sienna in there I suspect 8)
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Excellent!
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What a brute! Why do I get the feeling that he was stroking a white persian cat the moment before he got on that horse?
Lovely rich shades on that horse by the way – gorgeous, right down to the simple but very effective socks.
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He is just brilliant.
The GW head works well on that body, I had thought it would be far too big.
cool beans
dodge
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Fantastic! He looks great!
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Thanks lads :)
That's a great horse colour Richard, there's a fair bit of good old inscribe burnt sienna in there I suspect 8)
You suspect right! Very largely burnt sienna, with a touch of Vallejo bright orange in the mix...
More later. I'm on a roll! ;)
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Excellent!
This is one of those minis where each time you look you see something more. The ambience really is one of arrogance ..... In the image that is face on even the horse looks arrogant!
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More later. I'm on a roll! ;)
Yeah, show us more! :-*
the count is really wonderful!
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Continuing brilliance, as ever. Look forward to seeing more as they roll off the line.
I wasn't going to buy a box as I thought I'd got enough WOTR cavalry, but seeing your results is making me have a rethink!
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Very largely burnt sienna, with a touch of Vallejo bright orange in the mix...
the only colour from the range I don't have :'(
I do have 11 (yes, eleven) pots of caramel, due to double typing 1 on the order form ;D
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the only colour from the range I don't have :'(
I do have 11 (yes, eleven) pots of caramel, due to double typing 1 on the order form ;D
lol
Online ordering eh? It's an adventure every time...
It's a good colour though, caramel - great base for buff leather ;)
Can highly recommend the burnt sienna - great colour for horses, red leathers, redwood shafts and rust effects of all sorts :)
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lol
Online ordering eh? It's an adventure every time...
It's a good colour though, caramel - great base for buff leather ;)
Can highly recommend the burnt sienna - great colour for horses, red leathers, redwood shafts and rust effects of all sorts :)
Caramel's my second favourite colour 8)
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I don't suppose that this is the edible sort of caramel?
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Man At Arms in the retinue of the Osneys of Outwood...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_13_06_12_6_49_43_3.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_13_06_12_6_49_43_0.jpg)
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It is great :D !
Contrasts are good...
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Another lovely figure Richard - composition and paintwork - is there a 'trade secret' to getting the continuous stripe on the lance (tape perhaps or just a steady hand?).
Great inspiration.
Simon.
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Great as ever! You keep amazing me, Captain Blood! I especially like the lance, and the horse is wonderful too.
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They look fantastic
How are you doing the armour?
Is that simply Mithril Silver drybrushed over black?
Do you do a black wash over that?
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How are you doing the armour?
Is that simply Mithril Silver drybrushed over black?
Do you do a black wash over that?
Thanks Mick.
This one has a bit of Vallejo 'gunmetal blue' mixed in with black and silver for the basecoat. Then increasing amounts of silver added to the mix to lighten it, and applied - very watered down - to build up a patina on the raised areas. Then a final highlight of neat silver on studs and so on. No black wash involved, apart from a tiny bit of retouching here and there perhaps.
is there a 'trade secret' to getting the continuous stripe on the lance (tape perhaps or just a steady hand?).
Simon - no trade secret, but I can tell you the technique I've developed for doing it. It doesn't even require a particularly steady hand - just a bit of patience...
For the purposes of the explanation, imagine for a moment that your lance (or flagstaff or whatever) is not a slim cylinder, but has four sides like a length of planed timber...
Once you've painted your shaft in your chosen base colour (say, green), then along one 'side', paint a row of equidistant diagonal stripes in the opposing colour (purple). These don't have to be particularly neat, because you can tidy them all up later.
Now turn the lance (and figure) through 90 degrees, and paint another row of diagonal stripes on the next 'side', that carry on the diagonal lines you painted on the first 'side'.
Then again on the third side.
Now we come to the moment of truth... When you get to the fourth 'side' (unless you have a mathematically precise eye!) it's highly unlikely that when you paint your diagonal stripes down the fourth 'side' of your shaft, they will join perfectly up with the start of the diagonals on the first side. But they should be roughly in the vicinity.
So you now have a slightly messy, wobbly, and imperfectly joined - but notionally continuous spiral in your contrasting colour.
So now go back to your first colour, and tidy up the resultant spiral line as best you can. It won't be perfect, but you can certainly fudge it slightly so that any slight variations in the thickness of the opposing lines are imperceptible to the naked eye. Or even the camera!
Make sure that your fourth and final 'side' is the one least obviously on view. In this case, underneath the lance - so that even if things do look a little bit awry down 'the join', they're effectively hidden from view!
And finally, the real trick is then to paint a highlight down the centre of each of the two opposing spirals. This lighter central band of colour running through each spiral draws the eye from the actual darker line where the two spirals lines but up against each other. So again, the eye minimises any imperfections :)
Sounds like a rigarmarole - but is actually quite easy, honestly.
Just requires patience, and the understanding that you're not going to get it right straightaway, but you're going to have to do some touching in, in the opposite colour until you get your two spiral lines broadly equal in weight, and lined up as you want them.
Hope that helps :)
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Scrumptious :-*
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Lovely job, Captain!
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The tip for painting the stripes is much appreciated too!
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I have the same approach to stripping lances, but with less effect >:(
This one's a bit special Richard :-*
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Lovely painting and very nice quick tutorial on painting spirals on a lance Captain! :-*
Christopher
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Careful Captain, now everyone will be looking to see if they can spot any mistakes on your lances. :o
But I really doubt it.
Thanks for sharing another great figure. :-*
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Captain Blood,
All your work is simply outstanding. Thanks for the inspirati
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Thank you :)
Careful Captain, now everyone will be looking to see if they can spot any mistakes on your lances. :o
Heh heh... Well I'm painting Waldo The Fleming this evening, and his lance is straight up in the air - so no hiding place for any dodgy lines... ;)
Hopefully you'll be able to judge tomorrow...
Anyway, in the meantime, here's that controversial man at arms still holding his poleaxe - the rascal ;)
I've painted him in Howard Livery. The Howards are getting a lot of new recruits of late, but then they are one of the great noble houses of England - Earls of Surrey as well as Dukes of Norfolk...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_14_06_12_7_32_35_2.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_14_06_12_7_32_35_1.jpg)
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Stunning as ever, so when will we see a group shot? I take it not until you pan out the options? btw how many boxes did you get Captain :D
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Two boxes Karl. I've built 18 figures and now painted 12 of them. 6 ore to paint and 6 more to build.
But my artillery has just arrived so I might switch onto that for a week or two. Must say getting a bit weary of horseflesh now ;)
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Another stonking figure. And thanks for the guidance on the lance stripe - will be giving a go soon.
Cheer, Simon.
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Marvellous, I love the symbols on the shoulders and the facial expression.
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Now I have a different favourite!
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I'm not sure how I missed the thread. :-X
Wonderful paintjobs and conversions. :-*
I'm really impressed. :o
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Well I hope you're not getting too bored yet lol
(I confess, I feel my willpower waning... 12 painted, 6 more on the table A/W paint... ::))
Number 12 is Waldo the Fleming...
For the painterly amongst you, potential item of interest is that this horse and yesterday's (the one with the poleaxe wielding rider) I undercoated using Halfords dark brown 'camo' spraypaint, rather than black. I think it gives a better and slightly more subtle effect. Not massively noticeable, but if you're going to paint brown horses, it definitely takes one step out of the process as the darkest patches you see on the horse are the undercoat showing through...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_15_06_12_4_17_40_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_15_06_12_4_17_40_1.jpg)
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I didnt think it possible but these lads are getting better and better with each snipet and eye candy post :-*
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If anythings gonna' make me buy some plastic it's this bunch, brilliant work Richard 8)
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Wow. :o I love it!! :-*
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we'll need a groupshot Captain :P
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we'll need a groupshot Captain :P
Oh yes! :D
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Once the 18 are done! A group shot will follow ;)
The final 6 can wait...
Just spent 2 hours cleaning up, basing and prepping 10 metal artillerymen and some field pieces...
Don't talk to me about the time taken to assemble plastic figures! ::)
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Fab!!! Beautiful as ever Richard. I have succumbed and bought some myself; tho' I'll have to post them up in the fantasy fora,methinks......... :o???
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So much good paint work here Richard! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Its a joy to see them all, gives very good and needed inspiration!
Best regards Michael
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Wow, unbelievable stuff, stripes on lances wow
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Greetings
If anythings gonna' make me buy some plastic it's this bunch, brilliant work Richard 8)
Oh yes. What did I write at the start of this thread "Not interested in plastic, not interested in the time range" ... GAH... I'm sitting here looking at those pictures and not stopping shaking my head at the marvelous work.
I'm wondering if one could not pin your posting about the metal work (the same where you explained how you paint the lance stripes). It sure counts as a tutorial/walk-through on True Metal and I know I will want to try my hand at this on several minis in armor I have here. :)
Since I can't paint a horse for what is worth, I think I'll take a few of your pictures Richard and use them as reference when I'm finally starting those Gripping Beast Horde I bought years ago.
Stunning an marvelous and such great eye candy
Thank you so much
Jo
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Don't talk to me about the time taken to assemble plastic figures! ::)
Yes, but the Perry's do seem to use recycled armour plate to cast their figures. Forget the dremmel, I'm using a Kango hammer lol
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You've got a point there Chris. Hadn't really thought about it before, but mould lines on metal figures are normally vanished away with ease by the dremel steel brush...
On the Perry figures though, they are strangely persistent.
Even when you've got rid of the surface line, it's still there in the metal... They say they use a lot less lead than some other manufacturers, which I guess makes the metal harder. And safer. So maybe I shouldn't complain ;)
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Wonderfull paintwork Richard!
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Great painting Richard, as if we expected anything less (jealously hoping maybe ;D ).
Regarding the Halfords brown spray. Is it just like the black, but brown (as in matt and a fairly even coverage?).
cheers
James
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And safer. So maybe I shouldn't complain ;)
And on the plus side, they don't dent if you drop them. Swings and roundabouts ain't it :)
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Aye ;)
Regarding the Halfords brown spray. Is it just like the black, but brown (as in matt and a fairly even coverage?).
Yes Jim. Deep dark brown and ultra flat matt too. Very good stuff. I'm impressed. It's a bit more expensive than their standard black, but gives a very nice finish. I'm about to try it as an undercoat for some figures too, so my black days may soon be behind me at this rate... ::)
Make a good base for peasants and the like I should think... ;)
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Make a good base for peasants and the like I should think...
Figures in general. Ivebeen hoping there would be something like this out there :D
cheers
James
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:-* :-* Your work continues to inspire Captain!
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Figures in general. Ivebeen hoping there would be something like this out there :D
cheers
James
If you both don't stop going on about wonderful products you can get in UK that I cannot get here then I am going to have to start frowning at you. I am giving you both just this one warning. So beware, Paddington has nothing on me when it comes to such matters :o
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Very nice, Richard.
You entry on SD's is quite nice as well.
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If you both don't stop going on about wonderful products you can get in UK that I cannot get here then I am going to have to start frowning at you. I am giving you both just this one warning. So beware, Paddington has nothing on me when it comes to such matters :o
;D Bring it on ;D
cheers
James
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Well, another slight diversion from the Mounted Men At Arms, I spent quite a long time yesterday painting guns, trying to get them all done in one session - since I fecking hate painting cannon... :o
I also added a couple more plastic gun crew to the paint queue...
First: Ronaldo of Savoy, Artillery Master for hire...
His head is another GW Empire spare part from the batch Jimbibbly sent me. His mace of office is bodged from a piece of polearm with a Fireforge part on the top...
Apart from the hand swap holding the polearm, he's otherwise made from standard components...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_17_06_12_7_44_38_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_17_06_12_7_44_38_2.JPG)
And with him, his personal arrow catcher - Gianluigi the Buffoon.
Gianluigi's sole purpose in the gun crew is to stand in front his eminent employer, and protect Master Ronaldo from incoming fire... ;)
(And yes, his pavises will be peppered with arrows in the finished version :))
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_17_06_12_7_44_38_0.JPG)
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Very nice! Love these two.
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Creative 8)
The head on Ronaldo does look a little on the large side though :?
cheers
James
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The head on Ronaldo does look a little on the large side though :?
A fraction perhaps, but not massively so. I can live with it - and I'm usually picky about these things :)
It's certainly no more outsized than the Perrys own metal heads in Tudor caps, which are a good 10% too big for the plastic bodies... ::)
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Not my favourite period but your painting job is fantastic :o :-* :-*! And the conversions are stunning!! I have enjoyed a lot seeing the pictures, Thanks!!
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Greate minis, nice to see some old GW parts come in handy, I try to use the odd one to my Kalmar project, mainly from the Mordheim plastics.
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Excellent builds, once again. Though I'm with Mr Bibbly here, the unhelmeted heads make them look a bit like dwarves. Looking forward to see them painted, anyway. :)
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The GW heads are slightly bigger in my eye but I don't think that it's detracts at all from the minis. It really is barely noticeable particularly en-masse on the table top.
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Richard, I am so shamelessly going to steal this idea.
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The head on Ronaldo does look a little on the large side though
That seems to go with the name lol
Excellent assemblages Sir Richard :-*
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That seems to go with the name lol
lol
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pretty cool new creation!
Soccer time actually: Ronaldo as a Artillery Officer (we could say..bomber? :D) and Gianluigi The Buffoon as a arrow catcher...or a goalkeeper? lol
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Gianluigi does look a bit concerned about being attacked from all angles. Maybe his old mate Fabio Cannonvaro should come out of retirement to help out.
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Has there been a 100 page thread before? Will this be the first? ;D
Loving it of course. :D
Poor Luigi though! :o
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Not strictly mounted men at arms, I know, but I went off down a side alley and painted the artillery park a few days ago...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_20_06_12_12_09_29.JPG)
Now some people will say these look a bit too rusty, and that medieval gunners out campaigning in the wind and rain of the English countryside would undoubtedly have kept their field pieces shiny and pristine at all times...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_20_06_12_12_08_38_2.JPG)
But I have looked at a lot of iron that spends a lot of time outside...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_20_06_12_12_08_38_1.JPG)
And trust me, unless you are going to paint it with Hammerite every few days, it rapidly acquires a distinctly iron brown colour...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_20_06_12_12_08_38_0.JPG)
Besides which, I like them like this... :D
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_20_06_12_12_08_38_3.JPG)
The two little guns are from the Foundry conquistadores artillery pack.
Broadly contemporary in terms of era, although I fear they may not be strictly historical... ::)
Good enough for my purposes though...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_20_06_12_12_08_38_4.JPG)
Now I just have 16 gun crew to paint - as well as the rest of the Mounted men at arms... :o
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The rust /weathering is perfect.
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See I'm torn now because I know that the gunners wouldn't of let iron guns get rusty but I also think rusty guns look better ;)
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Forgot to say cracking job of painting.
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Superb and inspired conversions for the gunners.
Gianluigi cracked me up!
lol
And those cannon look amazing!
Sod historical accuracy and all that, they look great as they are.
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One small complaint, though- Shouldn't Ronaldo look like he is sulking and whining a little more?
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:-* Excellent addition to your canon lol
The weathered iron is superb, how did you do it? Can't wait for the crew o_o
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Superb Richard :-*
I say sod the accuracy as well, they look fine as they are.
Just out of curiosity, would parts of the frame (or even the gun itself) have been painted in livery colours?
cheers
James
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I think their great
all good
dodge
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I went to see the Burgundian artillery at La Neuveville about three weeks ago.
They have 12 pieces in the museum there.
In total, I think there are 25 pieces in various museums.
There are some more at Murten and Grandson.
I think Zurich, Paris and St Gallen have one each.
The metal is forged iron so it has a black colour now.
The carriages are aged wood and look a bestial brown colour.
I think some of the wooden carriages have been repaired or remade about 200 years ago.
I also bought the book "The Artillery of the Dukes of Burgundy".
I recall reading that some medieval guns had painted carriages and I think it is very likely that the guns with elevation mechanisms were painted.
Most of the drawings in Schilling show guns simply as golden brown.
I like the look of the rusty effect but I think it is a bit over the top.
Forged iron does not rust as severely as or cast iron or modern mild steel.
The wheels would not have much rust on the running surfaces.
I suspect that the gunners kept the barrels and the elevation bars fairly clean to ensure that they worked properly.
Mick
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Sorry posted twice
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Not strictly mounted men at arms, I know, but I went off down a side alley and painted the artillery park a few days ago...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_20_06_12_12_09_29.JPG)
I am not ashamed to admit I get a cast iron erection by these. Heavy guns, quality painting, the rusting...
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Oh please tell how you're doing the rusty metal -- I've never managed to get it looking right.
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Wow this is such an inspiration!!! Great builds and paintjobs!
Personally I really don't care for the GW headswaps as they are way to big for my taste but the rest is spot on!!!
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They look great even if they look wrong. lol
I can see the iron rims of the wheels having a patina of rust, but constant contact with the road would give a clean iron effect (think used steel train tracks). Iron barrels were forged not cast and were naturally more resistant to corrosion. The rusty stuff you see nowadays is largely low quality mass-produced cast iron.
Metal parts were either painted (commonly black, but sometimes red, or maybe even other colours) or possibly 'russeted' (chemically browned, like the 'brown bills' often referred to, possibly even where 'Brown Bess' originated), which would give them a slightly rusty look. Obviously there were cast bronze barrels too, which were more expensive.
Being a gunner was a hazardous job and continuous maintenance part of their health and safety regime... King James II of Scotland was killed by a gun exploding in 1460, apparently a common occurrence.
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Being a gunner was a hazardous job
I think Micheal Perry can attest to that.
Thanks very much for the consise reply, I'm getting more and more interested in this period (and figure range of course lol ).
cheers
James
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Black powder weapons are inherently hazardous, goes with the territory... figures often show 'musketeers loading', with the ram rod firmly clenched in the fist... in reality they were held between thumb and a couple of fingers, as this caused far less damage to the hand if the weapon discharged. Likewise 'sighting' down the barrel will sooner or later result in injury.
I'm getting more and more interested in this period (and figure range of course lol ).
It is obsessively compelling the more you get into it (or so I'm told, I wouldn't know ;) ). You begin with a pre-conceived set of ideas about the period and the deeper you go, the quicker these are dispelled. As it hasn't yet been done to death by historians and gamers, there's still room for you to form your own ideas and draw conclusions from them. It's also quite amazing how quickly many of the 'wargaming myths' about the era get dispelled too!
:)
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I think Micheal Perry can attest to that.
Thanks very much for the consise reply, I'm getting more and more interested in this period (and figure range of course lol ).
cheers
James
Come towards the light...
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Lovely artillery pieces!!
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Love them, very well done and I like the weathering. I want to see bedraggled mercenary artillery train akin to those characters in flesh and blood :D
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Great guns, Richard :-* You just need a few carts now :D
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Captain Blood in non-shiny metal shock! :o
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It is obsessively compelling the more you get into it (or so I'm told, I wouldn't know ;) ). You begin with a pre-conceived set of ideas about the period and the deeper you go, the quicker these are dispelled. As it hasn't yet been done to death by historians and gamers, there's still room for you to form your own ideas and draw conclusions from them. It's also quite amazing how quickly many of the 'wargaming myths' about the era get dispelled too!
This is true of a lot of the "neglected" (by many wargamers, at least) areas of history. In my case it's become true of the Russian Civil War - the deeper you go the more fascinating it gets!
These are fantastic figures, looking forward to seeing the crews to go along with the guns!
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Lovely cannon! I'm on a bit of a cannon 'kick' at the moment after doing this for the first time last weekend:
(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1771/2012tattoncannon.jpg)
I'm the chap who's just fired her (dark blue and red hat, dark blue doublet, goatee). It was fantastic and loud :D 8) :-*
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Richard, my own WotRs project continues to be motivated by your achievements! ;)
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Sorry, I also meant to say in my post above how your cannon look just like the 'real' one I used - beautiful brushwork and weathering as ever.
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I have to confess that the thought of painting my wotr field pieces filled me with dread. Boring job. Well not no more. Completely inspired by your work yet again. They say plagiarism can be a compliment. Well I hope you don't mind but I will be complimenting you to kingdom come! Cheers.
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Great job Captain! :-* :-*
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Lovely guns, Richard, rusty or not. Now the gunners ...
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Thanks all :)
Yes, they are a bit boring to paint, and I was dreading doing them too, which is why I decided to make them interestingly rusty - historically accurate or not ;)
:-* Excellent addition to your canon lol
You missed your vocation in Vaudeville Chris ;)
The weathered iron is superb, how did you do it?
It's really dead simple.
The iron parts are painted with a mix of black and burnt sienna for a very dark 'russeted' red-brown.
Then once dried, a very watered down wash (like almost all water and just the merest bit of paint) mixing burnt sienna and Vallejo bright orange... Slosh it on and let it pool around the nuts and bolts. if it doesn't pool in the right places, gently encourage it with the tip of a fine paintbrush...
Once dried, it leaves a slightly rusty looking film over all the metal parts, and a convincing rustiness around the joints... If it's not enough, just repeat the wash until you build up the depth of colour you require, increasing the amount of orange to taste, depending on how blatant you want your rust...
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...a very dark 'russeted' red-brown.
I saw what you did there... very smooth. ;)
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Superb work on the arty Richard :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Lovely stuff 8)
I'm trying not to look at late Medievals at the moment, now I know why :D
www.gallopingmajorwargames.com
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Let me say just one thing: this is a marvellous thread! :-*
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It's really dead simple.
Excellent, that's just how I like it, cheers Richard :)
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I don't know if I mentioned it before: You just made me begin another project with your outstanding works on these men at arms.
All of them are amazing.
I ordered three Perry Boxes and a Warlord Games Battalia Box, so there will be plenty of work to do for me.
thanks for sharing
GS
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Thanks. Glad you like them :)
I saw what you did there... very smooth. ;)
lol - I did know about russetting before, honest ;)
I actually own a set of russetted wrought iron garden furniture - all very artisan and hand made. It is precisely this dark brown iron colour. You have to rub it down periodically as it rusts, leave the loose powdered rust sitting on the surface, and slap on a load of oil / chemical concoction which seals the whole lot and leaves it looking shiny and only subliminally rusty! It's a great finish, but it needs redoing at least once a year.
Now I know no soldier worth his salt lets his equipment get dirty (which is why I always paint my armour nice and shiny). And I'm sure artillerymen - even medieval artillerymen - did their best to keep their iron rust free as they dragged their primitive cannon through bogs and snow... ;)
The difference is of course, that we have Hammerite and 101 chemical and oil based aids, paints, unguents and solutions, which they simply didn't have access to. Therefore I think it likelier that things got a lot more rusty a lot more quickly in the C15th than the C21st...
Anyway, that's my theory, and I'm sticking to it :)
By the way, this is awesome :o
(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1771/2012tattoncannon.jpg)
I'm the chap who's just fired her (dark blue and red hat, dark blue doublet, goatee). It was fantastic and loud :D 8) :-*
The gun you're firing there Mister Rab, gives me some hope that my pair of little Foundry conquistadores cannon may not be quite so far-fetched after all... It isn't dissimilar.
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I always like the public sticking their fingers in their ears when shit like this happens lol
Our regiment did some night firing last year and the photos looked rather good (slightly off topic but interesting none the less).
Just a thought Richard, but how about a light drybrush of silver over the top of the rusting to show a bit of usage wear?
cheers
James
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I might well do that James... ;)
I'm painting a mixed batch of gun crew and Mounted men at arms at the moment.
Will come back to the guns later. Need to decide whether to base them or not. I don't normally base guns - or haven't done for other periods... But I'm toying with doing mini-diorama bases for these... Possibly using Bibbly Patent Holes for the gun crews...
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Just a thought Richard, but how about a light drybrush of silver over the top of the rusting to show a bit of usage wear?
Good call, especially on the edges of the wheels :)
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Now I know no soldier worth his salt lets his equipment get dirty (which is why I always paint my armour nice and shiny). And I'm sure artillerymen - even medieval artillerymen - did their best to keep their iron rust free as they dragged their primitive cannon through bogs and snow... ;)
The difference is of course, that we have Hammerite and 101 chemical and oil based aids, paints, unguents and solutions, which they simply didn't have access to. Therefore I think it likelier that things got a lot more rusty a lot more quickly in the C15th than the C21st...
They had their pages, servants, valets/varlets, whatever, regularly roll their armour, mail and what have you, in barrels of coarse sand... something that was featured in Game of Thrones in one episode, which quite impressed me...
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The gun you're firing there Mister Rab, gives me some hope that my pair of little Foundry conquistadores cannon may not be quite so far-fetched after all... It isn't dissimilar.
Not far-fetched at all; the group who made that little beauty (I think they call her 'Isabelle' ::)) used details from a late C15th piece that saw action in the War of the Roses to get their dimensions and so forth.
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Finally I succeeded in carving away enough of a Fireforge caparisoned horse body, to make it work (just about) with a Perry MMAA rider and horse's head...
I had to rebuild the saddle too, using both ends of a pavise...
This elderly knight in his antiquated great bascinet, is proud to display the arms of the Tenchleys of Staffhurst on his equally old-school horsecloths... He is perhaps, Sir Robert Tenchley's disreputable uncle, Sir Gilbert - a veteran of the French wars, where as a younger man he fought in England's now lost territories of Gascony and Normandy... Back in the day when his war-gear was the height of fashion... ;)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_29_06_12_4_47_20_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_29_06_12_4_47_21_2.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_29_06_12_4_47_21_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_29_06_12_4_47_21_3.jpg)
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Very, very nice, I love the rich claret(?) colour on the cloth. Its a great colour combo with the yellow. Possibly my favourite so far. ;D
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Yes, lovely conversion, Richard. This old-fashioned bascinet is one of my favourite helmet types.
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great job again, Captain! and ditto for Malamute: a great color choice 8)
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Stunning work. I love the beast on the horsecloth. Great work combining the two boxes, too. It looks really smooth.
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Outstanding conversion and paintwork there. :)
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Wonderful work - that is fantastic.
Mick
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Another masterpiece :-*
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Another masterpiece :-*
Absolutely 8)
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I agree this is a superb colour and my favourite
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Thanks lads.
Still not really sold on the Fireforge horses... The hindquarters look okay, but the shoulders are far too broad and lumpy... Still, it's only a one-off...
Anyway, I've painted the first of my four gun crews. I was going to do all my gunners in civvies, since these chaps were by and large not liveried retainers, but the original private security contractors - master craftsmen of the artillerist's art, who provided their services to the highest bidder...
On the other hand, that would look quite dull... :D
So I've gone for new unaligned liveries instead... I think these boys must come from Brighton... Or maybe France ;)
Anyway, as mentioned, some of the Perry artillery crew figures are not entirely to my liking, so my crews are a mix of a few of the artillery figures, plastics, and the new labourers gang, which are rather nice... Although having been painting the plastics for the last few weeks, I'd forgotten how crudely done some of the metal faces are...
I do wish Michael Perry would pay a bit more attention to them ::)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_30_06_12_5_06_27_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_30_06_12_5_06_27_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_30_06_12_5_06_27_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_30_06_12_5_06_27_2.JPG)
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Wow, very nice! I love the bright colours!
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I love that gun and crew set.
I would never have dared to use those colours but they work very well.
I will have to order some of those labourers now.
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Brighton you say? I wonder why lol
They do look rather spiffing though 8)
cheers
James
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Lovely colourful group Richard - loving the painted wood on the gun carriage and using the metal labourers works really we..
Cheers, Simon.
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They're bang on! 8)
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They seem like nice boys ;)
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Stunning Guncrew, realy likee the blue.
Sir Gilbert was a realy nice chap to, lovely paint work !
Best regards Michael
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Those labourers look great, I especially like the chap with the spade, he looks contented with his lot.
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Thanks for sharing.
All your figures are just beautiful.
A real treat.
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Brighton you say? I wonder why lol
They do look rather spiffing though 8)
cheers
James
I hate to think what research that was based on ;)
Great work as always Capt B
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Great work. Such vivid colouring.
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Thanks friends :)
Two more horsemen are under way... That will only leave 3 of my initial 18 builds left to paint... Better start thinking about what I'm going to do with the last 6 yet to be assembled... Need to do something different... Hmmm... ::) ;)
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Thanks friends :)
Two more horsemen are under way... That will only leave 3 of my initial 18 builds left to paint... Better start thinking about what I'm going to do with the last 6 yet to be assembled... Need to do something different... Hmmm... ::) ;)
Richard -I've just been thinking how restrained you've been in dealing with this lot. I suppose I would have stuck them together any old how maybe with the odd token conversion in a day or so and then started on a mass painting
Your one or two at a time method certainly pays dividends in terms of quality and individuality and has been a joy to watch. Where did you get all this patience from and how on earth do you maintain it though o_o
(I ask because I always seem to be in a hurry to finish something - for me the analogy of how I approach painting could be summed up a bit like travelling on a lovely scenic journey but driving so fast trying to get there quickly that I miss the enjoyment and point of the journey :? You on the other hand seem to be really enjoying this journey. I probably need to rethink my leapile)
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Thanks Kerry ;)
Well for me, the best bit about these figures is dreaming up how to get the very best out of them, so it's no chore as far as I'm concerned. It's an enjoyable little creative process, and like all good things, better savoured than rushed :)
I think the raw components of these Perry sets are so good, that it's a sin to just bosh them together any old how. But that's just me. I appreciate lots of people will be perfectly happy with 40 serviceable foot figures or 12 horsemen assembled in one sitting.
Stubbornness when it comes to maintaining a standard, trumps impatience! ;)
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Stubbornness when it comes to maintaining a standard, trumps impatience! ;)
Ah so, Zen and the art of figure assembly ;)
Now sling that paint Richard, we're waiting lol
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Well, sorry for the hiatus, but there's been a lot of real life, work, and other commitments getting in the way, and sadly this is likely to remain the case for the next few weeks. So my pace on this project has slowed somewhat... I do have a few more figures on the go though...
Here's the finished 'pricker' from the retinue of Sir Roger De Brassey, Lord of Tandridge.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_16_07_12_1_57_13_3.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_16_07_12_1_57_12_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_16_07_12_1_57_13_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_16_07_12_1_57_13_2.jpg)
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that's some wonderful horse colourings there :-*
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Very nice as always :-*
That brown spray works a treat :D
cheers
James
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Great colours, both horse and rider. :-*
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Worth the wait, top job Captain :-*
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My favourite so far :-*
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Another cracker.
Always worth the wait Richard, look forward to the next.
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I'm bored of this now.... ;)
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Another cracker, that orange works very well.
the horse is, well, magnificent.
dodge
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Greate looking "pricker", love the action in the mini!
best regards Michael
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Loving this one, very fluid movement with the style of painting on the horse and the pose.
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Cracking work Capt B :-*
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Thanks chaps...
I'm bored of this now.... ;)
Then I'm afraid I have to disappoint you, Mr Bond...
... since I found time to finish another one today :)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_17_07_12_7_40_35_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_17_07_12_7_40_35_2.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_17_07_12_7_40_35_3.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_17_07_12_7_40_35_0.jpg)
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Another wonderful figure Richard - nice pair of gnashers on the horse!
Regards, Simon.
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Now that's proper looking armour is that! :-*
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nice pair of gnashers on the horse!
Mr Ed's half brother lol
The cream and blue work really well on the lance 8)
cheers
James
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Very nice work (as usual).
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Richard,just reviewed my own Perry men at arms; all I can say is I have to lift my game!
Cracking work mate,astounding really :-*
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Thanks chaps...
Then I'm afraid I have to disappoint you, Mr Bond...
... since I found time to finish another one today :)
If you really wanted to ruin my day, the best bet would be to do a group shot of all of them together... ::)
It took me days to get over the shots of your game a while ago.
:D
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Blinding work!
How on Earth do you go about making those stripes??? They look perfect.
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Great! :o
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Thanks.
Blinding work!
How on Earth do you go about making those stripes??? They look perfect.
There were instructions higher up the thread :)
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I'm bored of this now.... ;)
lol lol
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Excellent work
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Thanks.
There were instructions higher up the thread :)
Oh sorry. Sometimes I tend to miss things in 39 pages long threads. lol
EDIT: Not that I can find it anyway.. maybe they're not called stripes?!
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Halfway down page 30, Thorbjorn :)
You were probably distracted by the unfeasibly shiny armour... ;)
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And, as promised way back on page 5, here is the finished 'Towton Tap' vignette portraying the hunt of routed infantrymen, and featuring a Mantic ghoul head amongst other oddities :D
Defeated alas, in the final of Steve Dean's latest painting competition...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_06_08_12_10_29_35_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_06_08_12_10_29_34_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_06_08_12_10_29_35_3.jpg)
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oh, that's nice :-* :-*
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Wow! That is simply stunning. Great conversions and paintjobs. Inspiring.
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Wowzer!
That's very special Richard.
Reeks atmosphere.
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Bloody marvelous. Well, done! Inspiring as always.
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Fantastic diorama, Richard!
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Excellent job Richard, though personally I was sick of the site of it by the semis ;)
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Those ghoul heads (am I right there?) work a treat :-*
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Fantastic. The use of the ghoul head turned out great!
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I'm guessing not painting the horseshoes and their nails is what cost you the competition. ;)
Excellent piece of work! :)
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That's just stunning. :-*
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Jesus Jones :o if that lost then I assume you were up against Leonardo and his ceiling painting
I'm off to have a look o_o
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stunning, the composition is spot on and the front runner bears a resemblance to the chap from the mass grave with a facial scar who was identified in the forensic sculpt. (blimey - that was a mouthful but you know what i mean!)
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This is fantastic, good job Richard!
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I can't even begin to imagine what could possibly have beaten this diorama into second place. Incredible.
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Stunning work Richard !!!! :-* :-* :-*
Best regards Michael
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I'm very surprised you didn't win with that wonderful scene! Just awesome. :o
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I can only echo other comments: stunning diorama :-* :-*
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Wonderful work!
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Thanks :)
I can't even begin to imagine what could possibly have beaten this diorama into second place. Incredible.
Well the winning entry was pretty good ::)
http://www.sdean-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=31754
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It's good but... I liked yours more :D
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Have to agree with dodge on that one. What does the winner get? How do you manage to view all the other entries?
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That scene is fantastic!!
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Thanks :)
Have to agree with dodge on that one. What does the winner get? How do you manage to view all the other entries?
Thanks. Unfortunately, once the competition is finished, all the other entries except for the winner disappear in shame ;) (although a lot of competitors then repost their individual entries on the 'pictures' board after the event).
Steve's 40th competition is now in progress however, and you can view the current round of matches by using the Painting Competition button at the top of the homepage. Although not all the competitors are in action in all the initial rounds, since each comp consists of 4 groups of 5 entries (so 20 in total) and each group holds 2 matches a week, with one competitor sitting it out each week. Top 2 in each group go through to the quarters, semis and final.
It's a very small electorate over there - usually only 40-50 voters on each match, compared with typically 400-500 on each match here in the LPL... ::)
So I'm all for encouraging more voters. Only supporting members and competition participants in that particular competition can vote though, so you'll need to paypal Steve a small donation to get voting rights. Or enter yourself of course :)
If you're keen on painting though (well painted wargames figures, rather than cool mini or not minor works of fantasy art) then Steve's forum is well worth joining.
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Very well done! I love the look of fear captured on the two running miniatures. And the work on your horseflesh is fantastic! :-*
I agree with you Captain Blood... if you love well painted wargaming miniatures I also would highly recommend Steve Dean's Forums.
Darkoath
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Slight hiatus there - been away on hols :)
Here's another finished man-at-arms...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_27_08_12_8_15_00_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_27_08_12_8_15_00_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_27_08_12_8_15_00_2.jpg)
Still going... Just about...
Two more long finished models (the two mounted crossbowmen) to paint, five more to build... Got to keep going... Got to.. Keep.. Going.. ;)
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We are not worthy! :-* :-*
Now bug off. lol
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The pennant reminds me of the film Labyrinth for some reason ???
Lovely painting though :-*
cheers
James
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Fantastic, Richard!
The horse came out realllllllllly nicely! :-*
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Delightful :-*
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Delicious...........delectable :-*
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that nag is oustanding :-*
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Nice painting bud!.....and just to go back to your wee diorama, yours has a way better narrative!!
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Thanks Andy - I thought so too, but the voters know best ;)
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but the voters know best ;)
No they don't, they are the general public who know sod all lol
cheers
James
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Outstanding as always, well done.
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Thanks Andy - I thought so too, but the voters know best ;)
Paint Naps and you'll win lol
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Yes, i'm afraid that may be the solution Shaun. French Napoleonic cavalry it will have to be lol
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Yes, i'm afraid that may be the solution Shaun. French Napoleonic cavalry it will have to be lol
Steady on! Winning is nice, but at all cost? :?
Life's far to short for French Naps lol
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Paint Naps and you'll win lol
I'm tempted to say it's 'paint stripes and you'll win', looking at the entry that beat the good Captain.
I agree though, life is too short to start an interest in Napoleonics... I believe you have to start around the age of 5 to have any chance of understanding the conventions surrounding button-hole lace patterns just on the line infantry, let alone anything else in a lifetime.
:D
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Stunning paint job Richard !
Your article in the laterst WS&S (62) about your Mounted Men at Arms project was a very good read, Thanks !
Best regards Michael
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My goodness! Beautiful work (again :))
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Paint Naps and you'll win lol
lol
He may well be right Richard!! :-[.
Keep up the famous work mate.
Darrell.
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Thanks chaps.
In all seriousness, I'd rather die in a dirty ditch than paint French Napoleonics ;)
Your article in the laterst WS&S (62) about your Mounted Men at Arms project was a very good read, Thanks !
Is it out already? Wow. Supposed to be early September. Thanks for letting me know Michael. Better pick up a copy (I'm supposed to be on their distribution list, but never seem to get sent a copy!)
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I like the little flag pennant on the rider's helmet, for some reason it reminds me of those kids you see in American cartoons with baseball caps with the small propeller on top. Though I always wondered just what was the idea with that?
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Thanks chaps.
In all seriousness, I'd rather die in a dirty ditch than paint French Napoleonics ;)
Is it out already? Wow. Supposed to be early September. Thanks for letting me know Michael. Better pick up a copy (I'm supposed to be on their distribution list, but never seem to get sent a copy!)
Superb again, wish I could paint like this
Says the man currently painting French Napoleonics lol
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Grendel and Beowulf - not the Ray winstone one - OK and only £3
and Ichi - not watched yet but seems to be a female Zatoichi
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Are you alright Karl? ;)
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Are you alright Karl? ;)
lol I'm taking this opportunity for a giggle based on the grounds that Karl is not alone in doing this sort of thing lol
Darrell.
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Superb paintwork throughout 8) 8) 8)
www.gallopingmajorwargames.com
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Awesome work, Captain
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Are you alright Karl? ;)
You know I saw Jim Bibbly reply to this message in the right thread!!!! on latest movie received :o but couldnt see my post...weird ;D lol
See I am not mad...honest check post below!!!!!
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=2924.900
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I saw it here and knew what you were talking about and just copied your text to there lol
cheers
James
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Is it out already? Wow. Supposed to be early September. Thanks for letting me know Michael. Better pick up a copy (I'm supposed to be on their distribution list, but never seem to get sent a copy!)
Got my copy at tuesday 28/8:) As writer in the magazine one expected you to get a copy first...
Hope you get it soon as it a realy interesting article to read;)
best regards Michael
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I saw it here and knew what you were talking about and just copied your text to there lol
cheers
James
Bugger lol lol ;D ;D ;D
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Thanks for the tip on the WSS article, might have missed it otherwise.
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Truthfully, it's just a very truncated version of this thread, only with less pics! But for those poor benighted souls who have not yet found their way to LAF, it gives them a flavour :)
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Ah.... But I shall add it to my scrapbook of Captain Blood tutorials!
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A quick foray to WH Smiths today...but sadly they are still selling last issue of WSS.... :'( :'(
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A quick foray to WH Smiths today...but sadly they are still selling last issue of WSS.... :'( :'(
I got that as well, it's the only reason I go in now.
cheers
James
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I did actually get my copy in the mail, and I have to say (not just because I've got an article in there), it really is quite a good mag. I stopped buying WI a couple of years back, because I was finding there were only one or two articles in each magazine of any interest. In this edition of WS&S there are at least half a dozen really good pieces. Guy Bowers is doing a good job. Now I just need to persuade him never to rewrite and rearrange my perfectly formed copy... ;)
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PDF downloaded to iPad, tis the way ahead ;)
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Picked up WSS yesterday and discovered an article in there with all your fine works of art Captain, wonderful stuff. I think WSS 's style of print and paper makes your photos look really nice and clear, I do wonder how well they would have come out in WI if they had published them instead? I have to agree with you about WI in some ways, there are months where unless you are a die hard FoW fan there is little of interest in it bar some token photos of shows and games apparently put in to give everyone else their monthly fix of wargames 'porn' .
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Got my copy too - great article.
As it happens I also picked up the last copy of WI as it had a lot of WotR content.
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Apologies for the continued de-railing (it won't happen again... Well, not today anyway) but I've found that the quality of the show coverage articles in WI has been on a downward spiral for a few years now with either silly distance shots or ridiculous close ups and not a lot in between :?
Lovely figures Richard, do carry on lol
cheers
James
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Apologies for the continued de-railing (it won't happen again... Well, not today anyway) but I've found that the quality of the show coverage articles in WI has been on a downward spiral for a few years now with either silly distance shots or ridiculous close ups and not a lot in between :?
Lovely figures Richard, do carry on lol
cheers
James
Sorry to join the OT party but I still buy it, It was worth the cover price alone for Barry Hilton's article.
How I guffawed..... still makes me chuckle now and i read it twice lol lol lol
Darrell.
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Sorry to join the OT party but I still buy it, It was worth the cover price alone for Barry Hilton's article.
How I guffawed..... still makes me chuckle now and i read it twice lol lol lol
Darrell.
It was a good article... although his comment "A little misinformation is a dangerous thing in the hands of those who would use it for self-aggrandisement." was a bit too close to the bone for many 'historical' articles that appear in the wargaming press.
While I think asking people to reference their article is a bit much, a list of what they read to compose it should be obligatory. There's a vast difference between researching and writing an accurate article, and having a quick read of an Osprey or two and throwing out a few hundred words in return for £50.
When you read an article that you know is very inaccurate, you wonder how many you've read and absorbed on something you know little or nothing about, trusting that the author had got his facts right.
:?
Anyhoo... loved the article in WSS by the Captain, just wished there was more of it.
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It was a good article... although his comment "A little misinformation is a dangerous thing in the hands of those who would use it for self-aggrandisement." was a bit too close to the bone for many 'historical' articles that appear in the wargaming press.
While I think asking people to reference their article is a bit much, a list of what they read to compose it should be obligatory.
As any lecturer will tell you, not listing the sources is plagiarism. ;)
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As any lecturer will tell you, not listing the sources is plagiarism. ;)
I'd settle for decent plagiarism, but re-writing someone else's mistakes as presenting them as your own mistakes is just lax. ;)
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Yes indeed. One of the banes of wargames magazines has always been godawful recycled history articles.
If I wanted to know about the story of the Danish Navy in the Schleswig-Holstein War, or some similarly obscure and narrow historical topic, I'd buy a flipping book on it.
What I don't want clogging up my wargames magazines, are 12 page articles where some idiot has gone off, read a couple of books, and then written a short, dumbed down history of 'topic X' pretending he's some kind of expert. Bloody awful.
The old WI used to suffer from this a lot. Less so, now it's mostly FOW... So that's something.
Anyway... Back on topic...
Well 15th Panzer’s wonderful posts this week have shamed me into action.
Seeing 60 WOTR horsemen en masse is spectacular. I decided the least I could do was finally complete the two boxes of Mounted Men at Arms I bought at Salute, to give me a paltry 24 (although I do also have 15 or so of the metal mounted WOTR figures painted).
You can see the previous 18 plastic figures in the thread somewhere above.
Number 19 has been done for some time, but he’s a ‘special’ for the front cover of a forthcoming edition of Wargames Soldiers & Strategy, so I have to keep him under wraps for a while… ::)
Meanwhile, here are numbers 20 – 24. Or the final five, as we Battlestar addicts like to say.
The first of these is a standard build from the box. Having complusively, chopped and fiddled with most of the others so far, I thought I ought to make up at least one model as the Perrys intended.
Here he is, a very parfait gothic knight in his German armour, lance erect (ooer) on his armoured charger.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_15_09_12_11_35_16_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_15_09_12_11_35_16_1.JPG)
Next up, an Italian mercenary knight. He wears a barbute from the Mercenaries box. Apart from that he’s a straight build. I’ve shaved the studs off his horse trappings though, and reinforced them with some liquid Green Stuff to make them stand a little prouder. Frankly I’m sick of painting those studs, so I’ve pretty much got rid of them for these last few models…
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_15_09_12_11_35_17_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_15_09_12_11_35_17_3.JPG)
Next, a lord urging his troops to greater efforts. He wears an armet with finial from the WOTR command sprue. Everything else is from the Mounted MAA set. I’ve added feathers to the horse’s head wearing the chamfron. First time I’ve used these – they look quite nice I think. The horse wears the full Italian style barding.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_15_09_12_11_35_17_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_15_09_12_11_38_22_0.JPG)
Next, something a bit more creative. This knight uses the armet with visor raised from the WOTR command sprue, and the sword arm from the same source. The horse wears just the front peytrals from the Italian barding, and on its hind quarters, I’ve dispensed with the moulded-on trappings altogether and used strip plasticard to make up some more flamboyant harness. Studs have been added with liquid Green Stuff, and a bit of filling proved necessary, as you can see.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_15_09_12_11_38_22_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_15_09_12_11_38_22_2.JPG)
Finally, number 24. Similar remodelling on the hind quarters and I’ve reinforced the studs on the front horse trappings, as the mouldings are in very shallow relief. The rider is a straight build from the MAA set, and a right haughty bastard. I can say no more.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_15_09_12_11_38_22_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_15_09_12_11_38_22_4.JPG)
I aim to get all these finished and painted over the autumn, along with various other stuff I need to get done. And that will be my Mounted Men At Arms done. Finally o_o
Then this thread can end :)
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Terrific stuff, more loveliness to oggle at in the coming weeks. :)
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Bloody hell Colonel! (I think you deserve a big promotion) These are superb, can't wait to see some pigment on them.
Can't you pull a sick week at work? There's a lot of colds going about, it's what I used to do when some important jobs needed doing ;)
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Top stuff 8)
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Great stuff Richard 8)
The use of the liquid greenstuff for the studs is something I never thought of. Do you have to build it up layer by layer or do it straight away (haven't actually bought any yet ::) ).
cheers
James
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Couple of layers, James. It's quite thick. Like me :D
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Couple of layers, James. It's quite thick. Like me :D
I wasn't going to say ;)
I might get Machi to pop in the local GW for me lol
cheers
James
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Fascinating thread, Richard.
Love the minis and though I might not be doing a lot of posting you can be sure I am always lurking and admiring your splendid work.
:-*
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Richard
They all look great - you certainly have the knack of getting all the components to work really well together. Am also getting fed up with studs on the horse tack, and will be doing some variants, as you've done with the plastic card.
Looking forward to the painted version - and the WSS 'special'...seems a shame to think that this great thread will be ending sometime.
Cheers
Simon.
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I really love the way that you manage to put extra care and effort into each miniature. And they are all lovely as usual! Look forward for them painted :)
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Nice builds CB, look forward to seeing them painted up in due course.
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Inspirational stuff, I think the first gothic knight is my favourite, it's reminiscent of a mock up in the Leeds armouries. I like the plasticard conversions too, good for a bit of variety.
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Richard,outstanding work! There are a few people (rather a few actually,I wont digress)on this forum who create things that go beyond just painting figures/conversions et cetera ,and who enter into the realms of artistry. You my friend are at the top of the list.
Cheers
Guy
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Richard,outstanding work! There are a few people (rather a few actually,I wont digress)on this forum who create things that go beyond just painting figures/conversions et cetera ,and who enter into the realms of artistry. You my friend are at the top of the list.
Great. Now we'll have to widen the entryway to the moderator's lounge to get his head through it.
;)
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Phnarrrrr! That could never be ;)
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Great. Now we'll have to widen the entryway to the moderator's lounge to get his head through it.
;)
lol
cheers
James
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Nice looking builds right enough. Great as always.
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The level of work on this website is always exciting...but there are a handful of threads, such as this one, which bring me back to the age of 12. Feverishly devouring the pages of any model/gaming magazine, drooling over beautiful models, and paint jobs, fantastic tables and regiments of miniatures I wouldn't be able to afford for years.
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The level of work on this website is always exciting...but there are a handful of threads, such as this one, which bring me back to the age of 12. Feverishly devouring the pages of any model/gaming magazine, drooling over beautiful models, and paint jobs, fantastic tables and regiments of miniatures I wouldn't be able to afford for years.
To be honest, I rarely buy wargame magazines now, the quality of stuff on here sets the bar too high for them to compete imo. This thread along with the other 'similar' ones on this board, would really take some beating as far as quality of work, inspiration and enjoyment goes. This is of course reflected in the views for the topics concerned.
:)
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Thanks lads. I'm quite touched :)
The level of work on this website is always exciting...but there are a handful of threads, such as this one, which bring me back to the age of 12. Feverishly devouring the pages of any model/gaming magazine, drooling over beautiful models, and paint jobs, fantastic tables and regiments of miniatures I wouldn't be able to afford for years.
I feel the same. Mainly, I have to say, because the Perry WOTR product is so brilliant, but also because multipart plastic models provide an opportunity for creativity and interpretation, that metal figures frankly don't. They are, quite simply, exciting and fun. Just like being 12 again ;)
The good news is they are also cheap however, so you can definitely afford them! Go play 8)
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I haven't commented on any of your threads before, but I thought I'd add my voice to those saying, basically, "Bravo!"
They are, quite simply, exciting and fun. Just like being 12 again.
Reminds me of a quote I've always loved: "People argue abouth the 'Golden Age' of science-fiction. Some people say it was the 1940s, others the 1950s. They're all wrong. The Golden Age of Science Fiction is twelve."
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Then this thread can end :)
But what if we all don't want it to end? lol
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Then i'll have to buy another box :D
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Reminds me of a quote I've always loved: "People argue abouth the 'Golden Age' of science-fiction. Some people say it was the 1940s, others the 1950s. They're all wrong. The Golden Age of Science Fiction is twelve."
Oh! Very good, I like that! :)
Then i'll have to buy another box :D
Huzzah! I doubt I'd be alone in demanding an infantry thread alongside this one. Double the work for you, but we don't care. ;)
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Then i'll have to buy another box :D
Well you did say the conversion possibilities are endless.......... ;)
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But does that also mean that the conversation possibilities are also endless? :D
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But does that also mean that the conversation possibilities are also endless? :D
Of course, even if you've only been on LAF a short time, you will have learnt a variety of ways to say "That's nice". :D
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Of course, even if you've only been on LAF a short time, you will have learnt a variety of ways to say "That's nice". :D
lol I've run out now ;D
cheers
James
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lol I've run out now ;D
cheers
James
+1
I think that's it.
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I doubt I'd be alone in demanding an infantry thread alongside this one. Double the work for you, but we don't care. ;)
Well you might get your wish... I've just been assembling my forces for a game this weekend with Silent Invader at Matakishi's Tea Party, and I discover to my slight embarrassment that out of almost 130 assorted metal and plastic, foot and mounted Perry WOTR figures painted, based and ready for action, I have precisely 20 longbowmen ::)
And as you, my learned Arlequin, will be the first to agree, whichever ratio of bow : bills and other arms you subscribe to, 1 bow : 6 bills/MAA/pikes/mercs/cavalry is almost certainly far too low!
So I've started building a shedload more longbowmen, which I might as well post on this thread as I go... :D
I am being creative with them :)
(Sorry Thorbjorn ;))
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Haha as long as it all makes it to Woking in November I don't give a darned. :D
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This should run and run like Coronation Street, every old thespian ends up there sooner or later. ;)
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And as you, my learned Arlequin, will be the first to agree, whichever ratio of bow : bills and other arms you subscribe to, 1 bow : 6 bills/MAA/pikes/mercs/cavalry is almost certainly far too low!
It will be fine, ask them to prove you're wrong... ::)
:D
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Here we go then... Not strictly mounted men at arms, but having realised a late English medieval army with only around 15% longbowmen is not really enough, I have been busily constructing new bows - as ever, trying to mix and match parts to avoid the more predictable builds... ::)
The first one... 'Just put those f*cking stakes in there, will you!'
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_23_09_12_6_00_18_0.JPG)
A stout woodsman...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_23_09_12_6_00_18_1.JPG)
A professional...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_23_09_12_6_00_18_2.JPG)
A retinue man...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_23_09_12_6_00_18_3.JPG)
Another pro...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_23_09_12_6_00_18_4.JPG)
And another...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_23_09_12_6_02_00_0.JPG)
Foreign, surely?
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_23_09_12_6_02_00_1.JPG)
Gentleman ranker...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_23_09_12_6_02_00_2.JPG)
Serious shootist...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_23_09_12_6_02_01_3.JPG)
Up and over...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_23_09_12_6_02_01_4.JPG)
Signals department...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_23_09_12_6_02_32.JPG)
That should improve my ratios a bit...
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- as ever, trying to mix and match parts to avoid the more predictable builds... ::)
Did you use a spreadsheet lol
I found myself looking at the Perry website earlier damn you ;D
cheers
James
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Looking great 8)
Did you use a spreadsheet lol
I found myself looking at the Perry website earlier damn you ;D
cheers
James
Go on James you know you want to :D
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With the signalman, I suggest you drill out (countersink) the front of the trumpet - it looks much better.
Mick
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With the signalman, I suggest you drill out (countersink) the front of the trumpet - it looks much better.
Totally agree.
I'm pretty sure with Richard's skills he can probably pull this off. :)
BTW... since we are on about construction... I assume that the clear shiny stuff on the figures is liquid greenstuff, or something of the sort.
Richard, could you explain how it works, as I have never had the opportunity to use it.
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Actually Ray, the shiny stuff is just dried liquid polystyrene cement... I tend to slather it over the joints to fill / conceal any fractional gaps. You can't see it once it's painted.
I have used some liquid greenstuff to do some filling recently. It's quite good stuff and fairly easy to use. Just like a thick green paint really, and behaves much the same. Doesn't seem to have any particularly magical properties as far as I can see. You can build it up in layers to achieve thicker detail, and you can scrape it off easily enough if you smear it somewhere you didn't mean to. Certainly worth keeping a bottle around for adding things like studs, buttons, chinstraps, rivets and sideburns - all things I used to do with repeated applications of PVA. Now much more easily achieved with a touch or two of liquid greenstuff.
As far as the trumpet goes, I must admit I don't fancy trying to drill the end out as it's rather fragile. The thing's quite likely to fall off. But all being well, I can paint in the aperture convincingly enough to fool the eye :)
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Ah!
You use polystyrene cement on your plastic minis... fancy that. ::) lol
The liquid greenstuff does sound interesting, though. I really must try it.
Thanks for the explanations. :)
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really cool builds :)
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More wonderful poses and combos. :-*
Simon,
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Just waiting to see them painted! =)
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They look great so far... I'm not sure about the 'buckler on the arm', iirc the ones like the one you've used just had a 'fist grip' behind the boss. I could be wrong though.
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They look great so far... I'm not sure about the 'buckler on the arm', iirc the ones like the one you've used just had a 'fist grip' behind the boss. I could be wrong though.
I think you're right.
I've seen many a pic of Byzantine Psiloi wearing a buckler on one arm when using the bow ,granted a much smaller composite bow which you tend to draw 'along your arm' rather than 'bending in the bow' as it were.
Still, nothing wrong with a bit of artistic license, maybe he has some Greek blood in him :D.
Richard, it's great to see all of these conversions but the one that I'm most interested in the archer loosing high, something that the Perry Plastics Box Set is sadly lacking.
Do you think you could find the time to do a quick step by step? Pretty please with polystyrene cement on top ;) :)??
Darrell.
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Some great poses Capt B. The foreigner has a Gascon air, but I think the serious shooter might snag his bow string on his helmet :o
Can wait to see them painted up :D
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Do you think you could find the time to do a quick step by step? Pretty please with polystyrene cement on top ;) :)??
Darrell.
lol
I think you're right.
I've seen many a pic of Byzantine Psiloi wearing a buckler on one arm when using the bow ,granted a much smaller composite bow which you tend to draw 'along your arm' rather than 'bending in the bow' as it were.
Still, nothing wrong with a bit of artistic license, maybe he has some Greek blood in him :D.
The Burgundians armed their pikemen with 'bucklers' or 'targes' or whatever.. and the only logical place for them to be was on the forearm, given that you needed two hands to hold a pike, but the one shown looks like the 'punch' type, which besides use as a means of 'shielding' against your opponent, could be used offensively. That being said, they are often shown hanging over the sword pommel, so there must have been a strap of sorts, besides the grip itself...
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Zooks! The toggle-counters have entered the building ;) :D
Really boys, does my face look bothered? ::)
Seriously, of course you are right to point out that one or two of these may not be entirely historically accurate. Wait until you see the one with the bazooka ;)
Darrell, the conversion for the 'loose high' bowman is dead simple. Just pick the body leaning backwards, and then take a slight angled slice off the shoulder end of one of the outstretched bow arms. Hey presto, the arm points upwards a bit more, the body is already leaning back, and it look slike he's shooting 'up and over'... When mounting the figure on a coin, washer, group base or whatever, you could accentuate the effect still more by gluing a slight chock of spare sprue under the leading edge of the figure's integral base, to tip his stance back a little bit more.
:)
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I'd get into this in a jiffy if it wasn't for all that bothersome history. Were there any Danish contingents (or derivatives) on any side or something!?
Plastics, Perry (not the platypus) and even bazookas! What's not to want to imitate in 28mm!?!
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Zooks! The toggle-counters have entered the building ;) :D
Moi??? :o
Ok, it's a fair cop Guvnor..... ;)
Btw... what model Bazooka, cos' the M20 would be totally wrong..... :D
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Darrell, the conversion for the 'loose high' bowman is dead simple. Just pick the body leaning backwards, and then take a slight angled slice off the shoulder end of one of the outstretched bow arms. Hey presto, the arm points upwards a bit more, the body is already leaning back, and it look slike he's shooting 'up and over'... When mounting the figure on a coin, washer, group base or whatever, you could accentuate the effect still more by gluing a slight chock of spare sprue under the leading edge of the figure's integral base, to tip his stance back a little bit more.
Thanks mate. I've got another box where I intend to do as many as these as is possible. I just don't like the look of longbowmen shooting one another in the back :).
Loosing high always looks better IMHO.
Darrell.
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I'd get into this in a jiffy if it wasn't for all that bothersome history. Were there any Danish contingents (or derivatives) on any side or something!?
Not specifically, but most of North-East England is 'Danish-derived', which is why they talk funny and have road signs saying 'Gate' instead of 'Street'. There were a lot of foreigners of various nationalities about though, the Pastons had a Frenchman and a Dutchman in their very small garrison at Caister Castle. Within the 'Burgundian' and 'French' contingents you would find groups of various nationalities, either as individuals signing on, or in larger formal groups, like SI's Company of the Red Feather.
There's no evidence for specifically Danish men, but that doesn't mean that there weren't any and that goes pretty much for any nationality of Western Europe.
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Great builds right enough.
I need to get me some of that liquid green stuff. Looks to have been right useful.
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Hang on, Hang on, whoa back up there a bit...
Where are the painted mounted men that you built the other day,
Your turning into me, put these ones together , oh those look nice lets put those together and oh I only just noticed I had some of those ..................... ;)
great builds as always
Rog
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I know, I know, I'm a terrible slacker :D
But don't worry, Rog - some of those mounted men at arms are on the paint table right now, you'll be relieved to hear ;)
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Okay, so I know I was supposed to be working on longbowmen to raise the ratios, but I foolishly let myself get sidetracked by various Men At Arms on foot I've had knocking around for ages. So actually, I've just made my bow:bill:MAA ratio far worse! ::)
These were a couple of plastic foot knights I built when I first got the mounted MAA box - you can see them in their unpainted state, way, way, way up in the thread somewhere above... I'm pleased with how these have turned out. They're both joining the swelling retinue of the Tenchleys of Staffhurst.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_16_10_12_9_29_18_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_16_10_12_9_29_18_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_16_10_12_9_29_18_2.JPG)
This one is another plastic figure - actually the very first figure I built from the mercenaries box, almost three years ago! For some reason, I never painted him. He's now joining my Milanese soldiers of fortune.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_16_10_12_9_30_52_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_16_10_12_9_30_53_1.JPG)
These two are joining the Foyles of Crowhurst - a plastic MAA bringing a banner at last, and a metal MAA swinging his poleaxe with a vengeance.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_16_10_12_9_29_18_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_16_10_12_9_29_18_4.JPG)
On the subject of the Perry metal MAA, I'd love to tell you I'm impressed with them - but I'm not. The figures look superficially good at first glance but they're actually quite crudely done and have lots of grotty lumps of extraneous metal which are impossible to excise without major surgery. Like in the crook of interior arm joints and between the leg and the scabbard. Really not very good - especially in comparison to the immaculate detail of the Perry plastic figures... However, to perservere...
A couple of MAA with poleaxes joining the Osneys of Outwood...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_16_10_12_9_30_53_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_16_10_12_9_30_53_3.JPG)
And finally, three personalities, allegedly Edward IV, Warwick, and the Duke of Somerset, now recast as characters in my own little WOTR local universe...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_16_10_12_9_30_53_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_16_10_12_9_31_49_0.JPG)
And the whole merry gang of killers...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_16_10_12_9_31_49_1.JPG)
Right... Now back to the longbowmen! And I mean it this time... ;)
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Brilliant as usual :-)
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Totally wicked cool :D
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So great ! :o
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Totally wicked cool :D
.... And soon to be thrashed! ;D
8) :-*
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Great, inspirational work as ever sir. Good luck with the longbowmen. Not nearly as enjoyable to paint as the heavy melee weapon sloggers. Some much more up close and personal.
In response to your comment about the Perry metals, I couldn't agree more. I have just finished painting a batch of metals and they really are not a patch on the plastics. I don't put as much individual detail into my figs, being a much looser painting style (that hides much), but even this cannot cover their failings. They certainly do not match up to their older metal AWI figs that I have been working on too. Hopefully they expand the range and improve the sculpts because, in spite of this misgiving, I wouldn't spend my precious painting time on any other sculpter's work unless Tony Barton went up a few millimetres.
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Stonking
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All that shiny, shiny mail - they look very intimidating. :)
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Ah the butterfly effect continues, it makes me glad to know you are human after all :D
By the way these are fantastic, very difficult to do all that plate so well, you achieve that so immaculately.
looking forward to the bowmen.... or the mounted's :D
dodge
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Shiney ;D
cheers
James
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Wonderful.
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Lovely!
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Just the right amount of colour to stop them looking like a load of tin cans on a beano...
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There splendid!
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Is very good El Capitan :-*
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Impressive as ever, Richard.
:-*
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characters in my own little WOTR local universe...
Now then, since I'm thinking about getting into this myself (next year) are there some family names you could throw my way to get me started?
cheers
James
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Now then, since I'm thinking about getting into this myself (next year) are there some family names you could throw my way to get me started?
cheers
James
Such a butterfly lol
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Such a butterfly lol
And he has the cheek to talk about me!
:D
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And he has the cheek to talk about me!
:D
lol
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Next year I said, next year ;D
cheers
James
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So in the next 3 months then...... ;)
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are there some family names you could throw my way to get me started?
I am just going to use the names of some of my old platoon buddies. Sorry if there is some Scotch or Irish names mixed in there.
One of them is named Lancaster by the way. :P
But we had a Dodds, Kennedy, Ward, Whitley, Raleigh, Macon, Dooly, Peacock, Turner, Bakker, Hamm, Smith, Robert, Archer, Fisher, Camp, Jackson, Hansen, Karns, McCall, Hunter, Cooper, Newberry, Cats, Allen, Arent, Glass, Perkins, Goodwin,Neal, Dutton, Peterson, Fulbight, Douglass, Bell, Rivers, Taylor, Booth, Toll, White, Black, Gardener, Lake, Thomas, Lake, Coffey, Upright, Paul, St. John, Minon, Williams, Terry, Lockheart, Jonson, Lee, Sall, Hall, Porter,Tucker, Grooms, Hobin, Lust, Tagen, Blakeley, Kister Pogue, Isenbart Guest. And those are the names off the top of my head.
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James, you could go for the rather interesting Sir James Harrington, James Butler Earl of Wiltshire & Earl of Ormond, James Metcalfe, or James Strangeways? You may see a pattern there! ;)
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James, you could go for the rather interesting Sir James Harrington, James Butler Earl of Wiltshire & Earl of Ormond, James Metcalfe, or James Strangeways? You may see a pattern there! ;)
Or maybe just James Bibbly of Butterfly Way........?
;)
So as not to derail the thread too much, it is obvious that the good Captain is inspiring others with this great thread.
Including James!
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So as not to derail the thread too much, it is obvious that the good Captain is inspiring others with this great thread.
Including James!
Probably the understatement of the year... I'd think the Perrys should be considering cutting him on the vig (sorry, been watching 'Boardwalk Empire').
:)
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Lovely !!! :-*
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I'd think the Perrys should be considering cutting him on the vig (sorry, been watching 'Boardwalk Empire').
I've had Boardwalk Empire seasons 1 and 2 on my Amazon wishlist for a couple of months now. I hear it's dead good. Hopefully Santa will oblige ;)
I am just going to use the names of some of my old platoon buddies. But we had a Dodds, Kennedy, Ward, Whitley, Raleigh, Macon, Dooly, Peacock, Turner, Bakker, Hamm, Smith, Robert, Archer, Fisher, Camp, Jackson, Hansen, Karns, McCall, Hunter, Cooper, Newberry, Cats, Allen, Arent, Glass, Perkins, Goodwin,Neal, Dutton, Peterson, Fulbight, Douglass, Bell, Rivers, Taylor, Booth, Toll, White, Black, Gardener, Lake, Thomas, Lake, Coffey, Upright, Paul, St. John, Minon, Williams, Terry, Lockheart, Jonson, Lee, Sall, Hall, Porter,Tucker, Grooms, Hobin, Lust, Tagen, Blakeley, Kister Pogue, Isenbart Guest. And those are the names off the top of my head.
Some fabulous names there :)
I'd say the following sound passable surnames for medieval gentry: Ward, Whitley, Hamm, Arent, Fulbight, Rivers, Toll, Lake, Thomas, Minon, Hall, Lust (gotta be!), Blakeley.
To me, these have the right feel. Most of the others are either too Celtic or they are 'occupation' names - Baker, Archer, Fisher, Turner, Hunter, Gardener, Porter, Tucker etc - which would work for commoners, but not the fighting upper classes... And one or two are clearly foreign (although slightly French-sounding surnames work well for English medieval bigwigs, since there was still a huge amount of cross Channel interaction... Hence Arent and Minon would work for me... )
Now then, since I'm thinking about getting into this myself (next year) are there some family names you could throw my way to get me started?
The names I've used for my various factions are literally the names of the various medieval manors, high families and villages around where I live. The area had a number of manors - Tenchley, Detillens, Osney, Stocketts, Foyle, and so on... Just do a search online for local manors in your chosen area, and it will throw up a cornucopia of local history records containing hundreds of genuine medieval names of people, families, manors and villages. And usually the complex web of interrelationships between all these people and their holdings, plus assorted connections to the higher aristocracy.
Then off you go :)
Once you've picked your families / factions, you can invent their heraldry / livery in a cavalier fashion (like I have), or you can research it.
Old churches in villages and hamlets very often have the coats of arms and colours of their medieval families on the wall somewhere, or you can find local history records detailing these.
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The names I've used for my various factions are literally the names of the various medieval manors, high families and villages around where I live. The area had a number of manors - Tenchley, Detillens, Osney, Stocketts, Foyle, and so on... Just do a search online for local manors in your chosen area, and it will throw up a cornucopia of local history records containing hundreds of genuine medieval names of people, families, manors and villages. And usually the complex web of interrelationships between all these people and their holdings, plus assorted connections to the higher aristocracy.
Then off you go :)
Once you've picked your families / factions, you can invent their heraldry / livery in a cavalier fashion (like I have), or you can research it.
Old churches in villages and hamlets very often have the coats of arms and colours of their medieval families on the wall somewhere, or you can find local history records detailing these.
Sounds good to me :D
Now then, which area to choose... Kingston methinks. It'll make a nice triangle between you me and Steve ;)
cheers
James
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I've had Boardwalk Empire seasons 1 and 2 on my Amazon wishlist for a couple of months now. I hear it's dead good. Hopefully Santa will oblige ;)
one of the best TV shows ever made, certainly in the all time top five 8)
...and season three is just as good so far :D
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one of the best TV shows ever made, certainly in the all time top five 8)
...and season three is just as good so far :D
I wouldn't go quite that far, but without doubt it's compelling viewing! I've just finished Season 1 and 2 is next on the list! :D
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Great job on the men-at-arms. I invested in another box of the plastics at Colours, mainly to create some additional alternative commanders for our games. I was disappointed, however, as I couldn't get any of the Yorkist command metal figures to use for the actual personality, so the plastics remain waiting for a paintjob. Wish I could get results like yours!
Not sure who I doing yet, other than Berkeley of Stoke Gifford, because he was the lord of my home village and I was stood by his grave recently in the Lord Mayor's chapel in Bristol during the "Doors Open" day. He lived to a ripe old age (for the 1400s) and was a Yorkist though not always agreeing with Edward IV.
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Not sure who I doing yet, other than Berkeley of Stoke Gifford, because he was the lord of my home village and I was stood by his grave recently in the Lord Mayor's chapel in Bristol during the "Doors Open" day. He lived to a ripe old age (for the 1400s) and was a Yorkist though not always agreeing with Edward IV.
Brilliant Martin. Sounds like a very good reason for reincarnating Berkeley. I hope he has a good-looking coat of arms :)
Is he the same Berkeley that appears in Kingmaker (I seem to recall a red, white and black shield... )
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lol lol lol lol lol lol
I bought a box of bow and bill and the merc command set.
lol lol lol lol lol lol
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I wouldn't go quite that far, but without doubt it's compelling viewing! I've just finished Season 1 and 2 is next on the list! :D
After Season 2 you will go that far too! ;)
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lol lol lol lol lol lol
I bought a box of bow and bill and the merc command set.
lol lol lol lol lol lol
What...... You said next year but succumbed within 24 hours?!
lol
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What...... You said next year but succumbed within 24 hours?!
lol
That's the WotR spirit! For completeness you should change sides half way thought the battle too.
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lol lol lol lol lol lol
I bought a box of bow and bill and the merc command set.
lol lol lol lol lol lol
lol
Look at the Bibbly as he flutters by!
::)
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lol
Look at the Bibbly as he flutters by!
::)
;D ;D ;D
You're only jealous that you haven't got the same restraint as I have lol
cheers
James
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lol
Look at the Bibbly as he flutters by!
::)
He just can't help himself. ::)
lol
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Welcome James, to the Dark Side of plate armour and poleaxe... >:D ;)
Now, about that castle... :)
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Now, about that castle... :)
Which one, Nottingham or the more realistic :D
cheers
James
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Which one, Nottingham or the more realistic :D
cheers
James
I think you know the answer to that one... lol
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(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-aiL45QyS3fQ/UIEGtcFLB7I/AAAAAAAALX0/Cra7bXGYjLE/s586/188_EuroDisney-Paris.jpg)
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(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-aiL45QyS3fQ/UIEGtcFLB7I/AAAAAAAALX0/Cra7bXGYjLE/s586/188_EuroDisney-Paris.jpg)
Don't tempt me lol
cheers
James
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Don't tempt you? You've already built the central tower!
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Sorry Richard,bit late on the updates; lovely work as ever! The painting of the armor is beautiful,dare I ask, have you changed the way you paint it ?
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Don't tempt you? You've already built the central tower!
lol
Now all he has to do is paint it pink lol
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lol lol lol lol lol lol
I bought a box of bow and bill and the merc command set.
lol lol lol lol lol lol
Noooo!
I hope you will still contribute to that proper manly early middle ages thing you had going with foot knights and all.
WoTR is too fruity and colourful for me. It would be like double confect considering my rampant fruity and colourful personality. lol
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Sorry Richard,bit late on the updates; lovely work as ever! The painting of the armor is beautiful,dare I ask, have you changed the way you paint it ?
Not that I was aware of! It may be because I'm now using a different undercoat which seems to come up a little bit grainy on some figures. Perhaps gives the finished armour a slightly more 'iron' feel rather than smooth steel, but I'm not sure, and it's certainly not deliberate :)
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Is that the Halfords brown as I haven't noticed that much of a difference.
cheers
James
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Yeah. Seems to go very slightly grainy on some figures - not really visible to the naked eye until you apply paint... ::)
Not quite sure why though, because on other figures it's smooth as velvet.
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Yeah. Seems to go very slightly grainy on some figures - not really visible to the naked eye until you apply paint... ::)
Not quite sure why though, because on other figures it's smooth as velvet.
The graininess is a result of holding the can further away from the figures. I noticed when spraying my Martians. Some it was fine,others grainy. Try holding it closer to them and you will see a difference.
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Yeah. Seems to go very slightly grainy on some figures - not really visible to the naked eye until you apply paint... ::)
Not quite sure why though, because on other figures it's smooth as velvet.
Well it looks fantastic (as of course does your earlier armour work :D).
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The graininess is a result of holding the can further away from the figures. I noticed when spraying my Martians. Some it was fine,others grainy. Try holding it closer to them and you will see a difference.
Must be a slightly different formula then as it dries quicker than the normal stuff.
cheers
James
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Yep. Think it must be tiny bubbles which dry instantly...
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The longbowmen now have paint - just in the nick of time... ::)
I've added a few to each of my retinues, just to keep the numbers more or less even...
First, a couple of tough looking professionals for the De Brasseys of Tandridge...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_30_10_12_4_37_52_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_30_10_12_4_37_53_1.JPG)
Sir Thomas Howard, Earl of Surrey, gets three new men...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_30_10_12_4_37_53_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_30_10_12_4_37_53_3.JPG)
Three for the Foyles of Crowhurst...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_30_10_12_4_37_53_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_30_10_12_4_39_28_0.JPG)
Two for the Tenchleys of Staffhurst
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_30_10_12_4_39_28_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_30_10_12_4_39_28_2.JPG)
One new huntsman for the Osneys of Outwood, plus a Scots mercenary (he was just a test figure I made up to see what could be done combining parts from the three Perry plastic WOTR boxes... Thought I might as well paint him. He will accompany my Scots pike).
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_30_10_12_4_39_28_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_30_10_12_4_39_28_4.JPG)
And here they are together...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_30_10_12_4_40_12.JPG)
God willing, they and the rest of the host will see action this Sunday :)
Oooh. Just noticed. 6000 posts. That's a whole lot of idle chit-chat ;)
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Stunning!
...and as gorgeous as ever!
:-*
You certainly have some nice tuftual titivation too..... ::)
Them De Brasseys certainly have some brassy footwear and all!
;)
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Splendid. :-*
Looking forward to flicking them over as Silent Invader slaughters them on Sunday :D
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Phnaaaarrrr.
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Wow - they look good ;D
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Very very nice, I really enjoy the variety you coax out of those boxes.
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Whoooof, incredible as per usual!
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Your figures are always a joy to behold!
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Those look really good Mr. The Captain. :-* :-*
I must say that the amount of names associated with all these outfits has me dazed and confused! lol
You want to mind the base edges. Shiny metal is always the first
thing to catch an eye otherwise.
Cheers!
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:o O M G !
Great job !
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Lovely stuff.
Ps: The additional table space is almost ready giving a glorious 2.5m by 1.5m with some rather good looking hills just being titivated, which could be somewhere for my lads to hide if I don't finish painting their reinforcements!
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Absolutely beautiful as ever, Richard! And 12 new figures in quite short time - I envy you about your stunning output ...
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Great looking miniatures, Richard!
You are putting together one hell'van army!
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Jolly nice toys Sir! :-* I look forward to seeing them in the flesh (plastic?) this weekend.
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A thrill to follow this thread
Now I'm just going to give you a bit of advice Richard....... ???
.... no, no, no... its not about painting, I couldn't do that lol
Its about Sunday...
No, no its not about church....
It's about after church..... ;)
You know, the game.....
Well you do remeber that you've spent ages doing these don't you...
You do know that these are superbly painted aren't they?
and you do know that this is their first game?
and you do know the first law of wargaming?
Yes?
well then....
Best put the buggers right at the back then because they are bound to run away lol
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Great! :-*
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Very impressive..... I take it the guys in the green boots are camp followers? :D
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The one in pink boots is the camp follower ;)
Best put the buggers right at the back then because they are bound to run away lol
lol Sound advice. Thanks Kerry ;)
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More great paintwork and delicious colour schemes Richard. :-*
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Oh very nice, I really like the huntsman.
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Looking forward to flicking them over as Silent Invader slaughters them on Sunday :D
lol
Very nice Richard :-*
cheers
James
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:-* :-* :-* :-* Stunning!!!
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Superb stuff :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Brilliant!
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Stunning archers Richard !!! :-*
Best regards Michael
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So I see that the next issue of WSS magazine is on Charles the Bold.
Putting 2 and 2 together with Richard's past comment Number 19 has been done for some time, but he’s a ‘special’ for the front cover of a forthcoming edition of Wargames Soldiers & Strategy, so I have to keep him under wraps for a while…
...I'm thinking that this could be a a real cracker of a figure that's coming our way....?
Here's hoping...
;D
Simon.
[no 5th November puns intended by the way!]
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Those are just superb! :-* Your colour intensity is so vibrant and rich! Excellent! :-* :-*
Christopher
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So I see that the next issue of WSS magazine is on Charles the Bold.
Putting 2 and 2 together with Richard's past comment ...I'm thinking that this could be a a real cracker of a figure that's coming our way....?
Here's hoping...
;D
Simon.
[no 5th November puns intended by the way!]
Logging onto the WSS website it says that the next issue is mostly all about the AWI with a picture of Continentals on the cover.
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Charles the Bold is January's issue...
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Have knocked up a few more builds... Can't seem to stop myself... I'm starting to find it quite therapeutic :D
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_01_12_12_5_46_26_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_01_12_12_5_46_26_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_01_12_12_5_46_27_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_01_12_12_5_46_27_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_01_12_12_5_46_27_4.JPG)
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Yay..... :-* :-* :-*
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Come on Steve, keep up... ;)
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Come on Steve, keep up... ;)
I shall revert to painting very soon ;)
(The horses..... painting them scares me..... :o)
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Nice work - I like the new infantry.
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Very nice poses that you have put together there, Cap'n.
Nice work with the green stuff, too.
It all seems to give a nice natural flow to the builds that is not always there with multi part figures.
(No fat fella with a crossbow, though..... ;))
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Cracking job Captain
(The horses..... painting them scares me..... :o)
Would painting squires with coconuts be less scarey? ;)
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(No fat fella with a crossbow, though..... ;))
lol He's done. Just need to finish off his base...
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Never thought to use the bill arms for archers. Right, where's my craft knife...
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Can't seem to stop myself... I'm starting to find it quite therapeutic :D
greenstuff and a sharp knife saved my life lol
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Very nice conversions Richard !
Very good inspiration
Best regards Michael
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Lovely conversions..very inspirational.
One tiny thing...the archer drawing the arrow...he´s laid it on the wrong side of the stave.
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One tiny thing...the archer drawing the arrow...he´s laid it on the wrong side of the stave.
Picky, picky, picky... ;)
He's just resting it there while he daydreams about opening a pub once the wars are over... :)
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One tiny thing...the archer drawing the arrow...he´s laid it on the wrong side of the stave.
Ambidextrous archer? A cack hander? or perhaps he's just showing off? lol
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One tiny thing...the archer drawing the arrow...he´s laid it on the wrong side of the stave.
You're stealing my style... ;)
:D
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He's just resting it there while he daydreams about opening a pub once the wars are over... :)
:) :)
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Awesome, these conversions are very seamless and bring a lot of life into the miniature.
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Nice!
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Particularly like the knocked arrow figs Capt. They look simple conversions, but simple stuff done well is usually the hardest. May have to find out just how hard by blatantly trying to copy them. Forgive me, but I have simply run out of options direct from the box. Looking forward, with the rest, to see them freshly painted. Cheers.
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Copy away! ;)
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Well I have decided to try to finish off my two boxes of Perry plastic mounted men at arms. Therefore did quite a lot of painting over Christmas... Here are the results...
A knight in the retinue of Outwood...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_06_01_13_2_22_55_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_06_01_13_2_22_55_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_06_01_13_2_24_54_0.JPG)
And another...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_06_01_13_2_22_54_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_06_01_13_2_22_54_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_06_01_13_2_22_55_2.JPG)
Here they are together...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_06_01_13_2_28_04_2.JPG)
A Flemish mercenary...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_06_01_13_2_24_55_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_06_01_13_2_24_55_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_06_01_13_2_24_55_1.JPG)
Flemish mercenary crossbowman...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_06_01_13_2_24_55_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_06_01_13_2_26_44_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_06_01_13_2_26_44_1.JPG)
Milanese mercenary crossbowman...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_06_01_13_2_26_45_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_06_01_13_2_26_45_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_06_01_13_2_26_45_4.JPG)
Flemings...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_06_01_13_2_28_04_1.JPG)
Mounted crossbowmen...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_06_01_13_2_28_04_0.JPG)
With luck, Wargames Soldiers & Strategy magazine issue 64 should be hitting the doormat / newsstand any time now - and then I'll feel at liberty to share my cover pic model of Charles the Bold with you...
That accounts for 22 of the 24 figures painted. Just two more to do... Phew ::)
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More goodies from the cpt.
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Cracking stuff Richard, your the (medieval) man.
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I really like the crossbowmen :-*
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Core!!!! :-* :-* :-*
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Beautiful! :-*
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Brilliant as usual :)
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Really like those, superb as always, :-*
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Amazing builds and colours!!
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Loverly jubbly :-*
It reminds to get mine sorted so I can knock yours over ;D
cheers
James
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It reminds to get mine sorted so I can knock yours over ;D
Phnaarrrr! So many projects, so little time ;)
Thanks all :)
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Phnaarrrr! So many projects, so little time ;)
I know lol
I've got one built and primed though :D
cheers
James
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With luck, Wargames Soldiers & Strategy magazine issue 64 should be hitting the doormat / newsstand any time now - and then I'll feel at liberty to share my cover pic model of Charles the Bold with you...
yessssss :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Great work, Cap'n!
You are one of the few painters who can get away with the brighter colours on these fellas without them seeming cartoonish.
:-* :-* :-*
You are really starting to get the hang of painting these nags too, aint ya...?
;)
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At least, Richard.
I had some abstinence symptoms already ...
:D
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Beautiful - love the Flemish mercenary. That helmet looks awesome.
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Wonderful painting Captain! 8) 8)
Christopher
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Top work :-* The crossbowman in the West Ham strip is particularly good 8)
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Oh cool!!!
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Man! Lovely work Richard,just beautiful; the colours are,as usual amazing :-*
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More fantastic stuff Richard :-* :-*
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With luck, Wargames Soldiers & Strategy magazine issue 64 should be hitting the doormat / newsstand any time now - and then I'll feel at liberty to share my cover pic model of Charles the Bold with you...
't was nice to see your name back in print again. A lovely vignette and some useful tips to be gathered from your article.
Too bad the diorama won't make the tour around the shows. Here's hope, though, that this means you're about to launch a Burgundian army anytime soon. ???
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Thank you gentlemen, for the lovely comments. Much appreciated.
't was nice to see your name back in print again. A lovely vignette and some useful tips to be gathered from your article.
Too bad the diorama won't make the tour around the shows. Here's hope, though, that this means you're about to launch a Burgundian army anytime soon. ???
Ah - so it's out then? Thanks Mad Doc. Obviously being printed in the Netherlands it lands earlier on the European mainland than on the offshore islands! :)
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To clear that up: digital copies are sent out and therefore received on release day. However, from experience contributors seem to get their specimen copy rather late. ;D
Anyway, no need to hold back the pictures any longer. :D
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Spanking as always, really nice!
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Stunning work !!!!
Love the mounted crossbowmen !
Best regards Michael
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Phnaarrrr! So many projects, so little time ;)
Thanks all :)
Must be a British thing.... :-X lol
Oh and nice painting! I have to get some of those gaily coloured flowery bits. Just the thing for my early medievals as well.
EDIT: Added appraisal! lol
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They're all more than "jesus jones good" but the crossbowmen are particularly ace
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Thanks Kerry :)
EDIT: Added appraisal! lol
lol
Thanks!
Flowery bits are good. A splash of colour on the base definitely helps pep up the figure. I do worry a bit though, that huge numbers of wargames figures now appear to be refighting battles that appear to have taken place in florists shops! It is all a bit cissy isn't it? ;)
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What you mean? Like 'The Wars of the Posies'? ;)
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Okay, well Wargames Soldiers & Strategy magazine has finally landed (at my house anyway), so I feel it's probably okay to now share some pics online.
This is the diorama of the Perry bombard I made for the front cover - the issue theme being all about Charles the Bold of Burgundy.
I'm pleased with the way the article has turned out, although it was quite a trial getting the cover image which Guy (WS&S editor) shot. Also, although I shot loads of useful pictures of various stages of the diorama build and the finished product, Guy must have been pushed for space because he hasn't used any of them! Ah well... All the more reason to post some additional pics here - enjoy :)
(You will have to buy the mag to read the whole article though. Well worth it I'd say though, since the whole magazine is a jolly good read ;))
Here are a few shots of the completed thing...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_09_01_13_6_35_05_3.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_09_01_13_6_44_10_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_09_01_13_6_35_04_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_09_01_13_6_44_09_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_09_01_13_6_35_05_1.jpg)
Here are the crew...
Master gunner and gun captain (plastic fantastic)...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_09_01_13_6_44_10_2.jpg)
Clerk of ordnance and plastic scaredy-cat...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_09_01_13_6_44_10_3.jpg)
Arse-scratching labourers...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_09_01_13_6_44_10_4.jpg)
Mantlet rope-men...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_09_01_13_6_46_54_0.jpg)
Charles Temeraire... Slightly fanciful plastic creation... And figure number 22 built from my two boxes of Perry plastic mounted MAA...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_09_01_13_6_46_54_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_09_01_13_6_46_54_2.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_09_01_13_6_46_54_3.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_09_01_13_6_46_54_4.jpg)
The before and after weathering on the bombard itself - especially to torment all those people that like to imagine medieval iron cannon were beautifully shiny...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_09_01_13_6_49_13_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_09_01_13_6_49_13_1.jpg)
And finally, just in case any one thinks I would have been so foolish as to paint the colours on the mantlet the wrong way round (::)), obviously it is designed to be seen from behind by your own troops when on the march to the battlefield, and is thus the correct way round. Ergo. ;)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_09_01_13_6_49_13_2.jpg)
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What about Antoine the Bastard??
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Stunning work Richard !!!! :-* :-* :-*
...and a good read :)
Best regards Michael
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Top stuff again there Capt 8)
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Absolutely fantastic :-*
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Plastic fantastic ;D
cheers
James
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Smashing diorama! :-*
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Why don't they sell these magazines in France!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Anyway, really nice diorama :-*
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Amazing!!!
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Suberb, Richard, just superb.
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Plastic fantastic ;D
....by Mister Boombastic!
Stunning!
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Keep up the weathering, Captain.
Realistic or not it certainly adds to the overall effect.
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....by Mister Boombastic!
Go and sit in the corner ;D
cheers
James
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Wow
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Wonderful!!!!
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Fabulous Richard. Worthy of a magazine cover.
Love the conversions and the off-white tones too.
Not too sure that Charles, having spent the equivalent of a small fortune on state-of-the-art artillery, would allow them to go that rusty! (although I do love the rusted iron effect that you've achieved)!! ;)
Awaiting for my mag to arrive with baited breadth....
Simon.
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Amazing work, but I would bet that Gendarme is going to find himself lying on the ground when that bombard goes off!
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Amazing work, but I would bet that Gendarme is going to find himself lying on the ground when that bombard goes off!
Charles Temeraire would become Charles Derriere quite quickly !! Beautiful work and I think in the world of modelling you are allowed some tongue in cheek and artistic licence if it enhances the overall effect! :D
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Awesome.
I need one of those for my Burgundians :-)
Mick
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Very nice indeed, and a clever justification for painting the colours on the mantlet the wrong way around. You almost had me convinced lol lol
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There's only one thing I can think of saying ..
jesus jones that's bloody good :-*
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Thanks!
Very nice indeed, and a clever justification for painting the colours on the mantlet the wrong way around. You almost had me convinced lol lol
;) It can be our secret Stephen :)
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So you had an excuse to buy the bombard! :D
A wonderful diorama Richard. :-*
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So you had an excuse to buy the bombard! :D
Just wait until I get it on the battlefield Steve. Those men of Hackneye aren't going to know what hit them ;) lol
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We ain't scared .......
...... We're f****ing terrified!!!!
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Wonderful work.
I keep looking for an excuse to buy one of them but, for the rules we're using, I've already got far more guns that we're ever going to use. It's just that it looks SO nice. :D
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I've had my bombard sitting in a box for two years now... reckon its gonna stay there a bit longer after this.
Brilliant work, can't praise it highly enough. :-*
The arse-scratching labourer is actually one of my favourite figures ever, I love the "christ, my poor back" of him. I don't recognise the sitting chap though - have the twins snuck out another cannon while I wasn't looking?
EDIT: Yeah, never mind, I'm an idiot. He's from the same pack. ::)
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Cooler than Captain Scott's icebox :-* Brilliant job!
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I've had my bombard sitting in a box for two years now... reckon its gonna stay there a bit longer after this.
Thanks chaps :)
Come on Rob. You know the Bishop of Carlisle needs a bombard... ;)
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The bombard piece is absolutely beautiful! Richard
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:-* :-*Stunning work!! Hats off to the Perry master converter and painter
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Come on Rob. You know the Bishop of Carlisle needs a bombard... ;)
Not quite.... Richard III made Carlisle castle into a massive gun platform, apparently, so the bombard will eventually be done in red and yellow city militia colours.
Eventually...
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I guess the bombard is 'okay' ::)
(Speaking from jealousy :) Very, very fine work- amazing really! )
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Just finished reading your article, I bought it purely on the strength of your weathering technique which I hope to replicate when I eventually get round to painting any one of the 6 guns I have waiting in bags - I have put them off for a few years now but hopefully this will give me some ready inspiration.
Really nice figures, the photography shows your srisp and colourful painting at its best.
Stuart
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Thanks Stuart and all :)
I know they almost certainly weren't allowed to get that rusty, but I just prefer the more lived-in look :)
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Amazing work as ever capt. Your attention to detail is quite extraordinary.
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I've just torn open the first issue of WSS from the subscription my brother got me for Christmas; time to dive in and see those other pictures of your work :D
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The bombard is jaw-dropping.
So what are the chances of a group shot anytime soon?
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Brilliant piece of work Capt B! :-* :-*
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Ta :)
So what are the chances of a group shot anytime soon?
Once I've finished the last couple of mounted figures. I do need to see all 24 together for my own sanity :)
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o_o I think my next project will be a late 15th C. Portuguese army for North Africa and the Castilian Succession War.
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o_o I think my next project will be a late 15th C. Portuguese army for North Africa and the Castilian Succession War.
sounds interesting, I need to look into those conflicts.
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I think my next project will be a late 15th C. Portuguese army for North Africa and the Castilian Succession War.
Hi Kingscarbine,
If so, have you seen/got this book? Very useful for dress and equipment (apart from being a fantastic bit of art).
I would strongly recommend it.
Simon.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Invention-Glory-Pastrana-Tapestries/dp/8495241846/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1358189481&sr=8-3-fkmr0
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Excellent stuff, gotthe magazine yesterday, brilliant article, you must be very proud and happy, I would be :D
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Thanks Rog :)
Yes, it turned out well. Pity there wasn't room for a few more of the wip pictures and shots of the finished diorama, but them's the breaks ;)
Richard
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@Simon
I don't have that one but have lots of images of the tapestries. BTW there's another set of tapestries that mysteriously disappeared. The Military Museum and the Antique Art Museum in Lisbon are a must for weaponry and other details.
Nuno
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New Osprey book vote has Armies of Castile and Aragon 1370-1516 as a contender. Would be very helpful for painting XVth C. Iberian armies.
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Just managed to catch up with all of your new posts Captain. Absolutely fantastic work.
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Thanks Syrinx0 :)
And finally, concluding my two boxes of Perry plastic mounted men at arms, numbers 23 and 24...
Another knight for the Tenchleys of Staffhurst...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_20_01_13_12_50_31_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_20_01_13_12_50_31_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_20_01_13_12_50_31_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_20_01_13_12_50_31_2.JPG)
And last but not least, one more for the Howards... Just like the one in the Wallace Collection :)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_20_01_13_12_51_36_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_20_01_13_12_51_37_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_20_01_13_12_51_36_1.JPG)
And here they are together...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_20_01_13_12_50_31_4.JPG)
Group shots of all 24 will follow in due course. Watch this space :)
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Beautiful :-*
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Most excellent Captain
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Inspirational. High time I start at box 4,5,6 and 7. :-*
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High time I start at box 4,5,6 and 7. :-*
lol Johan, you put me to shame with my slowness ::)
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Mind you Richard I still ahev to paint them all, because of an back-operation last year painting was not a rzal option , but putting them together was something I could do, so I glued about 30 boxes of plastic in 2 months time (I had to stay at home after the operation) So that doesn't really count.
I have recently painted 5 boxes of Fireforge knights , in as many weeks time.(1 teutonic, 1 order of Lazarus (with some zombieheads), 1 templar, 1 hospitaller and 1 box of Flemish knights for 1302 Courtrai. Although most knights fought that battle on foot against the French elite, I 've painted them mounted. I have foreseen some doubles on foot, just in case.
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I look forward to seeing them :)
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Lovely, thanks for a great ride Captain!
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Great job Cap! :-*
Now it's time to do all those Mahdis that you've probably bought without telling anyone ;)
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The best 'till last then, that grey is fantastic :-* Is this the end of the WOTR or will there be more? I'll be sad to see it finish.
As that other great thespian Vinny Jones said "It's been emotional!" ;)
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Buy some more.
I want to see more :o
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More Please. :D
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Great! I cannot wait to see the group shots! :-*
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The best 'till last then, that grey is fantastic :-* Is this the end of the WOTR or will there be more? I'll be sad to see it finish.
As that other great thespian Vinny Jones said "It's been emotional!" ;)
Seconded, the grey is superb. ;D
So what is next? ???
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Please stop painting these! Everytime a new one appears one of my unpainted WotR figures falls on his sword knowing he will never look anywhere near as good!
On second thoughts they are bloody brilliant so let's see more!
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Amazing work, that gey is wonderful with his big pink nose!
:-* :-* :-*
Looking forward to the group shots.
Oh, yes!
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Those are cracking the grey horse is fantabulous. :-*
Lets see all of them together 8)
dodge
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Superb stuff Richard :-* :-*
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Amazing
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Outstanding. 8)
I really like the grey too, very nicely done. Red armour looks bostin.
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I just joined this forum, partly because I'm migrating back to historicals from fantasy and part to post here how much I admire your work. Very inspirational.
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I'm always amazed at how well your painting holds up in close camera shots. Fantastic!
I just joined this forum, partly because I'm migrating back to historicals from fantasy and part to post here how much I admire your work. Very inspirational.
Captain Blood's painting is what led me here as well, a few years ago now. :)
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Thanks lads. I appreciate the positive feedback and am glad to have acted (in my own small way) as a recruiting sergeant for the Lead Adventure Forum. There are lots of talented, creative, ingenious people here - this thread wouldn't be what it is if I hadn't been inspired with ideas by other members too, so it works both ways :)
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And finally, nearly, for now anyway... Here are all 24 figures together:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_25_01_13_2_35_06_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_25_01_13_2_35_06_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_25_01_13_2_35_06_2.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_25_01_13_2_35_06_3.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_25_01_13_2_35_07_4.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_25_01_13_2_36_40_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_25_01_13_2_36_40_1.jpg)
And here with the metal figures added - 38 in all.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_25_01_13_2_36_41_2.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_25_01_13_2_36_41_3.jpg)
I think that's enough for series of wars where cavalry didn't actually figure that much on the battlefield, although I do have another half a dozen metal cavalry figures I might get round to...
I will just add a few pics of each of the mounted retinues in their livery groups. To follow...
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Fan'effin'tastic! You can't beat massed cavalry, superb work Richard :-*
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"O! He doth teach the torches to burn bright."
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Wowsa. :-*
They look even greater all together.
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It's...
But...
Just...
:o :-* o_o :D ;D and some more :o
Those were me, this is you: 8)
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AWESOME!!
I´m without words :o
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The colors are just so rich and vivid! I consider myself a decent painter but looking at these makes me wish I could fly over to Blighty from sunny California to learn at the paint desk of a master.
"Gorgeous" in this case would actually be an understatement...
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They are gorgeous lol
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:o :o :o
Amazing!
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Dear God..
Bravo, Richard!
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Quite stunning!
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That's quite an achievement. Very well done! :-*
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'sblood!
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Wow. Extremely well done, and it looks even more impressive when you see the whole lot together!
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Lovely work Richard! very impressive !!!
Best regards Michael
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What a motley, sorry looking bunch... ;)
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Stunning. I feel like the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts, magnificent!
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Shiny in the proper sense!
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Odd question what mm base or they put on?
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EXTREMELY amazed. Shocked.
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Quite a parade you've put out for us, great work!
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That be a fine sight right there!! :o
Should it not be 40 knightsnights?....or is that only crusading knights?
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Amazing collection... truly amazing. :-*
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:-* :-* :-* :-* Absolutely stunning!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bravo mon Capitan :-* :-* :-*
cheers
James
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Absolutely top form :o
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A visual feast - really lovely work on all of them.
Simon.
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Those who can, do. Those who can't, perv over Captain Blood's Perry minis. lol
Bloody gorgeous stuff Richard. What a tableau you've laid out for us.
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Those look magnifcent Richard
dodge
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Simply wonderful, now get the on ebay and you can retire!
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Beautiful, I absolutely love the cleanness and brightness of your painting.
Realy inspiring. :-* :-*
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Thank you all. You're all very kind. Except for Malamute obviously ;)
Just to finish the thing off properly, here they all are again in their retinue groups.
Howard, Duke of Surrey
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_25_01_13_11_04_52_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_25_01_13_11_04_53_1.jpg)
Foyle of Crowhurst
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_25_01_13_11_04_53_4.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_25_01_13_11_06_35_0.jpg)
DeBrassey of Tandridge
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_25_01_13_11_06_35_1.jpg)
Osney of Outwood
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_25_01_13_11_04_53_2.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_25_01_13_11_04_53_3.jpg)
Tenchley of Staffhurst
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_25_01_13_11_06_35_2.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_25_01_13_11_06_36_3.jpg)
Flemings
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_25_01_13_11_06_36_4.jpg)
Milanese
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_25_01_13_11_07_18.jpg)
And that's yer lot :)
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It has been wonderful watching this project grow from the sprue to the finished article.
A real Masterclass.
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It would be a shame if you were correct with: "And that's yer lot".
Of course, you dont REALLY mean that, do you?
You know that you wont be able to resist adding some more....
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Thank you all. You're all very kind. Except for Malamute obviously ;)
Is this Frothers?? lol
Brilliant artwork. Inspiring.
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Utterly Fantastic :-* :-*
– just as a matter of interest how long would you say it took you to paint all those?
Blodwin
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– just as a matter of interest how long would you say it took you to paint all those?
The first post was in Apirl last year :)
They look great en masse but I do prefer them in their retinue groups (it's the OCD in me lol ).
cheers
James
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The first post was in Apirl last year :)
They look great en masse but I do prefer them in their retinue groups (it's the OCD in me lol ).
cheers
James
YES! Bring on the Retinues! :D
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What a collection! :-*
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Magnificent! :-* :-* :-*
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Cracking bunch of Kerniggets
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The first post was in Apirl last year :)
And with April and Salute coming so the next project will start!
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Thank you all. You're all very kind. Except for Malamute obviously ;)
:D
Looking forward to playing them in a couple of weeks. Are we going to adopt the flick them over when they are dead aspect of the game ;)
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:D
Looking forward to playing them in a couple of weeks. Are we going to adopt the flick them over when they are dead aspect of the game ;)
Nah- we'll just toss them back in the box ;D
Seriously Richard - just so damn lovely. :-* 8)
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Aww. Thanks lads :)
Looking forward to playing them in a couple of weeks. Are we going to adopt the flick them over when they are dead aspect of the game ;)
Thank you, Doctor Evil ;)
just as a matter of interest how long would you say it took you to paint all those?
Yes, as James points out, I picked up my two boxes hot from the mould at Salute end of last April. So I guess these have taken 9 months to finish.
(To be fair, I have painted quite a lot of other figures as well during the same time-span :))
I can never really say how long it takes me to paint a given figure, because (like most people I suppose), I tend to spend an hour or two here or there. Some days I paint a lot, some days I don't paint at all. Often I don't find time or inclination to paint for several days at a time. But... I suppose for one of these horses and riders, by the time you've devised the model, assembled it and cleaned it up, primed it, painted it, stuck the horse and rider together, varnished it, based it, retouched the matt varnish with gloss over armour, and painted and decorated the base, it must amount to a day's work. Several hours if you sat down and pursued it solidly from start to finish.
It would be a shame if you were correct with: "And that's yer lot".
Of course, you dont REALLY mean that, do you?
You know that you wont be able to resist adding some more....
Well I'll certainly be adding some more foot figures. I reckon I have another 30 - 40 in progress or in the lead pile yet to paint. So I'll tag them on here in due course. Like I say, I do have another half dozen metal mounted figures, but I'm just not sure they're really worth doing. I have more than enough cavalry now as a proportion of the overall force. What I should really be painting is more damned archers - but they're just so boring! lol
Obviously, if the Perrys were to bring out a 4th late medieval plastic set, I would be completely screwed however, as I would have to start the whole process all over again, seeing what additional creations I could concoct by merging the new set with the three existing sets... So I actually hope they don't! ::)
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Very impressive, also that you were able to stick to the theme for that long!
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They really do look even more stunning when grouped in their retinues
I think the Foyles and Tenchleys are my favourites
What you really ought to do now Richard is to produce a few special characters by heavily modifying some Perries
I'd love to see something like a 25 stone gluton of a monk with a mule or a faction leader too fat to ride a horse, a desperately cruel and scarfaced evil henchman etc....
I'm just giving you ideas for the next LPL of course lol
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:-* :-* :-* :-* :-*As I have said before, outstanding work Richard! Now get busy doing all those archers...and have fun stringing all the bows with 5 amp fuse wire!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;) I found the quickest way is to make a very small hole at head end of the bow using a pin vice and then thread the wire, wrap around to make it look right at one end and then pull the wire tight and do the other end. I have had to do them on completed figs, and you are much better doing it during the build phase while the bow arms are still separate...except for the bowmen loading/pulling back, which requires you to thread the wire via the fingers! Loads of fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So, I may or may not have finally de-lurked and signed up just in order to say...this has been an absolutely excellent thread!
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The retinues look fantastic in your group shots. From the crisp bright colors to the wonderful base work, it's very inspirational. I look forward to what your foot and archers look like.
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Richard - As ever, beautifully painted 8) :D 8)
Cheers,
Lance
www.gallopingmajorwargames.com
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Just superb. Are the following Perry metal figures vice derived from the plastic set: the heralds; Howard on his rearing horse (the Warwick figure?); and Tenchley doffing his helmet?
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Thanks again everybody. It's great to get such positive feedback. Several of us will be playing another big game with these in the next couple of weeks, so hopefully there will be more action shots :)
Just superb. Are the following Perry metal figures vice derived from the plastic set: the heralds; Howard on his rearing horse (the Warwick figure?); and Tenchley doffing his helmet?
No, those are all metal figures from the various mounted personality sets. Sir Thomas Howard is actually the mounted Warwick figure, Sir Robert Tenchley is actually Salisbury, and the herald is, well, a herald :)
Is the brightness of the paints on the figs true to life or have the images been shopped a little? Either way it sure makes them pop.
Bright paints, levels auto-fixed in MS Digital Image. That's it.
...and have fun stringing all the bows with 5 amp fuse wire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You madman! My bows shall remain unashamedly stringless. Back to your Austrian Nappies with you ;)
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possibly the greatest thread ever with easily the most inspirational pictures ever taken 8)
the sort of picture that makes one remember why the became a wargamer.
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If I kill you and eat you, will I gain your power? o_o
I am simultaneously awed, inspired, envious and ashamed of my own laziness. That's quite a feat with only one cup of coffee in me.
I agee with everything redzed posted. 8)
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If I kill you and eat you, will I gain your power? o_o
No, you will get sick... ;)
Thanks Lads.
Looking forward to seeing more on the Bishop of Carlisle's adventures Rob :)
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Just amazing. :-*
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Speachless :o
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Simply stunning Richard, its fantastic to see them all together in their respective retinues :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Thanks lads :)
Well, you knew I couldn't leave it alone, didn't you... ;)
I've painted a few more gunners, to round out my late medieval artillery...
Firstly a couple more Burgundians, to supplement the 8 already done for the bombard (see several pages above!)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_03_02_13_8_03_49_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_03_02_13_8_03_49_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_03_02_13_8_03_49_3.JPG)
And secondly four more Savoyard artillerists...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_03_02_13_8_02_14_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_03_02_13_8_02_14_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_03_02_13_8_02_14_4.JPG)
And here are the Savoyards en bloc...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_03_02_13_8_03_48_0.JPG)
(By the way, colour scheme is completely invented - I haven't got a clue what Savoyards wore. But I think they look quite snazzy :D)
And finally, I also just bought a painted unit of marching metal billmen off eBay.
Why, I hear you cry?
Well because I don't actually have these particular figures, and they looked quite well painted for eBay (which makes a change). Including a couple of plastic command figures, that's 14 figures for my bid of 70 quid.
Which - deducting the actual cost of the figures themselves - means about 4 quid for the painting of each figure. Which ain't bad, being little more than the price of a pint in London! The lot also included a mahogany display plinth, which I suppose might come in useful one day ::)
They were painted by Matthew Archard (sorry, don't know if he frequents LAF). In the flesh, they didn't look quite as good as in the listing, but good enough from more than a foot away. The painting style is more impressionistic than my own, with less colour contrast. But I'd describe them as a reasonably good wargames standard. They were however, hideously shiny, so I started by giving them a good heavy coat of matt varnish. I've then retouched the faces, hands, bill shafts and various bits of detail like the bucklers, just to lift them a bit.
The biggest problem was that whatever was used to attach the figures to their square MDF bases, is the strongest adhesive I've ever met! It proved impossible to prize the figures off their MDF bases as I had planned, without risk of breaking or damaging them in the process. So in the end, I just trimmed the MDF squares right down, and then mounted the whole assembly onto my usual 25mm steel washers. I covered up the resulting mess with groundwork and foliage. Unfortunately, this makes it look as if each man is now marching on his own small hummock, but never mind :)
It's an instant additional unit, representing the Duke of Buckingham's men (Heavens! An actual historical portrayal, whatever next? ;))
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_03_02_13_8_02_13_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_03_02_13_8_02_13_1.JPG)
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You do know that this is cheating don't you ;D
I've only painted one so far, now I'll never catch up lol
cheers
James
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No, you will get sick... ;)
Thanks Lads.
Looking forward to seeing more on the Bishop of Carlisle's adventures Rob :)
No, it would be sick to eat you. What happens after is probably just, well, just deserts.
I haven't commented much on this thread but seeing them all together is absolutely amazing, Richard. It may seem corny, butlike that they make me think of a Faberge egg.
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Well, you knew I couldn't leave it alone, didn't you... ;)
I've painted a few more gunners, to round out my late medieval artillery...
lol
Yep.
We knew that you would not be able to leave it there.
;)
Great stuff with the artillerists, love the lairy colour scheme, realistic or not.
:-*
Nothing wrong with buying stuff someone else has painted and making it fit into your current project.
You just tell JimmyBillyBob where to go!
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Heavens! :o Now how am I supposed to catch up?! :D
Great stuff :)
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Great stuff, love the snazzy purple!
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Excellent! :-*
Is this going to be like Frank Sinatra's retirements, is old blue eyes back already? ;)
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butlike that they make me think of a Faberge egg.
And pray tell Hammers but wot kind of weapon is a faberge egg? Is it a ye old medieval handgrenade? lol
Good looking stuff as usual Richard, even the cheating ones :)
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Very nice , I especially like Andy Pandy on the right :D
Seriously brilliantly done, I cannot believe you bought a painted unit from ebay I think the world may be coming to an end after all ;)
Dodge
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wow, even more foot soldiers!
can i ask you what setup do you use to take your photos?
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Very nice , I especially like Andy Pandy on the right :D
I actually belly laughed at this lol
cheers
James
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Lovely additions but these are truly excellent!!! The colours are brilliant!!
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_03_02_13_8_02_14_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_03_02_13_8_02_14_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_03_02_13_8_02_14_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_03_02_13_8_03_48_0.JPG)
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Thanks :)
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Absolutely brilliant, Captain Blood!
Just astonishing! :o
Regards,
Greg
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Thanks Greg :)
Richard
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Thanks Geoff :)
Still plenty more foot to do ::)
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I may be late in joining this forum, so excuse me it this has already been touched upon:
Do you have any type of tutorials out there that showcase just HOW you get such brilliant results with your painting technique?
I've been painting for many years now, and I've developed my own style that I find acceptable; but YOUR painting style has left me speechless! I will unashamedly imitate you (if that is even possible), given the chance! :D
Regards,
Greg
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captain blood: Conversion and painting step by step
http://www.sdean-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=25706
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Thanks Greg.
What Araknofobia said :)
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Thanks to both gentlemen!!!!!
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That's some inspiring stuff, have to find some time to actually sit down at the painting bench!
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Dear me.
Well, it's been at least 6 months since I did anything more on WOTR - have been a bit busy with one thing and another, and not had much time for painting, modelling or wargaming in general :(
However, the current medieval painting club has given me an incentive to push on and paint around a dozen more of the plastic figure builds which you can see earlier in this (loooong-running) thread. I see I actually assembled these 9 months ago :o :o :o (Yes, that's the same time it takes to make a new human being!)
As well as painting these, I decided my various mercenary companies were a bit light on firepower - so while I am gripped with renewed enthusiasm, I've also put together some more handguns and crossbows, which I thought I'd share with you :)
I've deliberately pushed these figure builds to slightly more outlandish extremes in some cases...
Partly because I want my mercs to look like real villainous characters. Plus I never tire of seeing where I can take these plastic figures in ways that are not boring and predictable!
Just to remind you, I will show each of my mercenary companies - and then a quick run down on the reinforcements...
First up - the ruthless Flemings.
Here is a shot of the existing company...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/577_23_01_11_2_32_41_0.jpg)
And here are the reinforcements...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_06_09_13_4_37_36_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_06_09_13_4_38_07.JPG)
As you can see, one of these is very businesslike, winding his crossbow - albeit with his sword slung raffishly over his shoulder.
The other two are slightly more fanciful.
One with a towering plume of horse feathers appended to his hat, plus a Green Stuff rolled brim; the other, a handgunner - clearly a mad eccentric - is wearing his great, great, great grandfather's great helm (a Fireforge part), and with an axe slung from his hip.
Next up, the rascally Milanese...
Here's the original group:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/9/577_29_08_11_10_24_49_0.jpg)
And here are the incoming reinforcements...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_06_09_13_4_37_36_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_06_09_13_4_37_36_3.JPG)
I think the handgunner with his boot up on a discarded sallet is my favourite of this entire batch. Shield on his back, warhammer slung from his belt, sexy Italian barbute helm. Taking careful aim... If he's not the picture of a medieval mercenary swine, I don't know what is...
The crossbowman is fairly straightforward, but I do like teaming the heavy visored sallets with the unarmoured bodies - it makes them look lean, mean and businesslike.
And finally, a Frankenstein job, cutting and gluing various bits of hand and arm to achieve a marching handgunner. I've also sliced off the top of his hat, and added a spare GW 'Empire' flat cap.
All these chaps look quite Italian City States I think?
(Or they will do once I've painted stripey tights on them, trust me).
And finally, the dour Scots...
Here's the orginal group:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/8/577_30_04_11_7_24_50_1.jpg)
And now, the reinforcements...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_06_09_13_4_37_36_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_06_09_13_4_37_36_1.JPG)
The Man-at-arms is a fairly simple construction, mixing elements from all three WOTR plastic boxes.
The biggest conversion here is the addition of a bonnet to the head of one of the handgunners. The feathers come from the Warlord ECW set. The rest is Green Stuff.
The other two handgunners are fairly straightforward builds with no jiggery-pokery to speak of, but I'm pleased with the character and intent in both postures.
There's a little bit more tidying up to be done on these, then they'll be based and undercoated with spraypaint.
Now let's hope I can paint them before another nine months are out!
:)
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Yay! 8) :-*
I especially like the scot with the feathered cap
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Very nice conversions look forward to seeing the paint jobs. I also like the sweaty with the bonnet but my favourite is the Milanese with the cap.
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Excellent conversion work as usual Richard.
I don't want to poop on the parade but I think that no matter hos well that chap with the great helm's ancestry had looked after the helmet it would still be a bit of a rust bucket by now, perhaps a slightly anachronistic :).
Darrell.
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I don't want to poop on the parade but I think that no matter hos well that chap with the great helm's ancestry had looked after the helmet it would still be a bit of a rust bucket by now, perhaps a slightly anachronistic :).
lol - you're quite right. It's 250 years old and will definitely be a tad rusty Darrell :D
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lol - you're quite right. It's 250 years old and will definitely be a tad rusty Darrell :D
Better paint it so then lol.
Darrell.
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They look great Richard and I'm also taken with the great helm 8)
Regarding the mercs, is it a case of building figures and then picking which group to stick them, or isn't the other way round, or a mix of the two, or something else entirely :)
cheers
James
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Plasticsmashtic ::)
I suppose they will look alright when you slap some paint on them ;) :D
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And just when I thought it was safe to go back on line. lol
They all look great, buy I am partial to the guy with the great helm, just looks raggedy. Like he stole his grandpa's helm or maybe niked it from
Some well to dos old family manner.
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Check it! Like, boss mashup guy innit :-*
I cannot wait to view the resulting pigmentation application. 8)
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Great stuff, Richard!
Great chopping and sticking of those plastic buggers.
Loving the poses that you have come up with.
8) :-* 8)
There are a couple of things I dont understand, though....
Firstly: Where are the 'dour' Scots
I cannot see anything 'dour' in your collection.
I cannot imagine you painting 'dour', full stop.
Bloody lairy and colourful Scots...that I do see.
:D
Secondly: Why have you started painting them with green blotches?
Bloody strange way to go about things, in my opinion....
;)
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Superb conversions, Richard, great stuff.
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:-* :-* :-* Wonderful! Good to see those helmets getting used to :)
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(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_06_09_13_4_38_07.JPG)
As you can see, one of these is very businesslike, winding his crossbow - albeit with his sword slung raffishly over his shoulder.
The other two are slightly more fanciful.
One with a towering plume of horse feathers appended to his hat, plus a Green Stuff rolled brim; the other, a handgunner - clearly a mad eccentric - is wearing his great, great, great grandfather's great helm (a Fireforge part), and with an axe slung from his hip. :)
Absolutely gorgeous, as always and a very cool idea to equip him with an outdated piece of hardware. I like a bit of storytelling in a mini. But now I will annoy you by pointing out that the crossbow man would have a foot in the stirrup while cranking it or he would have had a bastard of a time keeping it still... :)
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ace - you're becoming rather adept at the green stuff malarky ;)
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But now I will annoy you by pointing out that the crossbow man would have a foot in the stirrup while cranking it or he would have had a bastard of a time keeping it still... :)
For some reason (it simply has to be my 'orrible tendency to be very anal about Medieval mini's [need embarrassed smiley!]) things like that do bother me- I know..... I should probably be shot at dawn :D. I'll ask my girlfriend to attend to it tomorrow lol
Darrell.
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Maybe he's got his hands on the top steadying it and is just about to put his foot in it ;)
cheers
James
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Maybe he's got his hands on the top steadying it and is just about to put his foot in it ;)
cheers
James
Aaaah..... (slow outtake of breath) I feel much better now :D
Darrell.
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Super poses Captain. I agree with you, that italian handgunner, taking aim and resting his foot on the discarded helm is fantastic. It's a dynamic pose.
Cheers
Matt
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incredible look, captain!
If you want some Milanese translations from Italian, i'm sure there are a couple of LAFers that can help! After all, Milanese and Italian are really different, and in that period the spoken languages in the area of Milan were archaic versions of milanese!
Moreover, that's really funny for us italians: might sound like "El Picinin" and "El Pistûler", but i'm not really milanese, so it might change!
probably Remgain can help!
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They all look wonderful but must say that the handgunner chap taking aim is my favorite as well. The one man at arms, the chap with full helmet, does look bit long-necked, as if the helmet would be sitting too high as it is but I'm sure it does look like that only in a close-up photo.
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Thanks :)
The one man at arms, the chap with full helmet, does look bit long-necked, as if the helmet would be sitting too high as it is but I'm sure it does look like that only in a close-up photo.
No, you're right - it is too high. I carved the neck away as well. Ah well... ::)
probably Remgain can help!
I shall consult Marco when it comes to names ;)
Maybe he's got his hands on the top steadying it and is just about to put his foot in it ;)
This. Obviously ;)
ace - you're becoming rather adept at the green stuff malarky ;)
Yeah - if my eyes weren't so knackered, I'd take up sculpting :)
:-* :-* :-* Wonderful! Good to see those helmets getting used to :)
Yes indeed - thanks Guy. The Fireforge helm was one of yours and the flat cap thingy was from James. So these are an LAF co-creation!
Thanks men!
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Don't listen too these ingrates, they all look excellent! ::)
... although Mason's various throwaway one liners across the boards have been making me chuckle a lot recently.
The Flemings look particularly gay and dashing!
sorry... what?
;)
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They all look wonderful! Any luck using the Ansar heads for Balkan mercenaries as you had mentioned elsewhere?
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Alas no - I completely forgot about that plan... ::)
Plus I didn't really want to buy an entire box of Ansar just to get half a dozen heads.
But if anyone out there has a few of the Nile Arab heads they don't need... :D
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No Arab heads, mate, but plenty of the GW types if there are any more that you want/need.
:)
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Great stories associated with these guys, can't wait to see them painted :)
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Would deffently like to see some of those Nile Arab heads used on some of the Perry figs. Should look interesting.
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No Arab heads, mate, but plenty of the GW types if there are any more that you want/need.
:)
Any pseudo medieval bits always gratefully received Paul :D
It's interesting to see what you can do with the tiny bit of inspiration provided by a new plastic part!
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Regarding the mercs, is it a case of building figures and then picking which group to stick them, or isn't the other way round, or a mix of the two, or something else entirely :)
Sorry James - missed this earlier :)
No, each of my noble retinues and mercenary companies has a distinct character of their own, and I deliberately try to build figures which fit the character of the 'house'. So the Flemings are hard-bitten professionals but a bit eccentric and showy with a complete assortment of weaponry, the Scots are pretty plain and businesslike (pikes and handguns only), the Milanese are more rascally and stylish, with weapons strapped onto all sorts of places and favouring crossbows and weird polearms.
The Howards are professionals - big league, big business, smartly turned out, latest kit. The DeBrasseys are middle of the road capable types, the Osneys are woodlanders, the Foyles are a bit more dapper and foppish, and the Tenchleys are old school tradition. That's how I think of it anyway...
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Thanks Richard :)
Makes sense and a good way to go about it.
cheers
James
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Any pseudo medieval bits always gratefully received Paul :D
It's interesting to see what you can do with the tiny bit of inspiration provided by a new plastic part!
Ok.
I will get to bagging up various types of headgear, etc for you.
Sounds like you wouldnt mind a mix various odd weapons too.
Thats the thing with plastic kits: The versatility means that you just cant stop as the options are almost endless.
'Tis a slippery path you have chosen, Richard.
Be warned!
:D
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Whew! Just read this whole thread in one day. Fantastic stuff! You might be the patron saint of kitbashing.
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Whew! Just read this whole thread in one day.
Blimey :o
Thank you.
Painting on the mercs is underway. Mucho stripeyfication!
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More great compositions Richard - love the one with his foot on the helmet the best!
Simon.
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Any pseudo medieval bits always gratefully received Paul Cheesy
It's interesting to see what you can do with the tiny bit of inspiration provided by a new plastic part!
Aren't the GW Empire bits and pieces a bit big to work with the Perry figures? I picked some bits and bobs up off eBay on the basis that they would work - the Empire handgunners heads seem to work (or at least aren't so oversize that they are noticeably wrong) but the knights heads and arms I got were well oversized. That little bit of difference between wargames 28mm and fantasy supersized figures seemed just too much. Or is it not so noticeable once you have the paint on?
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Sorry James - missed this earlier :)
No, each of my noble retinues and mercenary companies has a distinct character of their own, and I deliberately try to build figures which fit the character of the 'house'. So the Flemings are hard-bitten professionals but a bit eccentric and showy with a complete assortment of weaponry, the Scots are pretty plain and businesslike (pikes and handguns only), the Milanese are more rascally and stylish, with weapons strapped onto all sorts of places and favouring crossbows and weird polearms.
The Howards are professionals - big league, big business, smartly turned out, latest kit. The DeBrasseys are middle of the road capable types, the Osneys are woodlanders, the Foyles are a bit more dapper and foppish, and the Tenchleys are old school tradition. That's how I think of it anyway...
I really like this approach to the different retinues. This and Silent Invader's WotR stuff has got me to reboot my own stuff and assemble it in similar mixed retinues rather than in units of similarly armed figures. The Medieval Painting Order has got me painting them again too. It'll be good to use my own figures rather than my mate's!
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Fantastic original units and their reinforcements too. Love the one with the Fireforge helmet!!
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Yay!
Updates!
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Thanks chaps.
More great compositions Richard - love the one with his foot on the helmet the best!
Thanks Simon. Actually it was your handgunners jumping over the wall that inspired me to go for some slightly more dramatic poses :)
Aren't the GW Empire bits and pieces a bit big to work with the Perry figures? I picked some bits and bobs up off eBay on the basis that they would work - the Empire handgunners heads seem to work (or at least aren't so oversize that they are noticeably wrong) but the knights heads and arms I got were well oversized. That little bit of difference between wargames 28mm and fantasy supersized figures seemed just too much. Or is it not so noticeable once you have the paint on?
Well the flat cap is an absolutely perfect fit on the marching handgunner - but yes, the outsized GW fantasy weaponry wouldn't really work. (Although that said, Fireforge's knightly hand weapons are similarly comic-book in appearance, and they're supposed to be historically accurate... )
The GW heads seem to work okay.
They are probably a whisker too large for the Perry WOTR bodies - but not so much as you'd notice if it wasn't pointed out - like on these ones...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_12_06_12_10_46_59_3.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/577_03_02_13_8_02_14_2.JPG)
(The left-hand figure in this picture - the rest are Perry metals)
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Another tiny update... Painting on the latest batch of mercenaries is now well underway.
I'm having such fun painting stripes on these exotic Milanese...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_06_09_13_4_37_36_2.JPG)
...that I couldn't stop myself prepping a couple more.
I'm now sorely tempted to build an entire Italian Condottieri army, composed entirely of such exotic characters :D
This one previously appeared way further up in this thread with two pavises. But I decided, comical as this was, it would be a pretty useless figure. So I remodelled his right arm as a handgunner resting atop his pavise.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_14_09_13_2_26_52_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_14_09_13_2_26_52_1.JPG)
And this dandy Capitano is concocted from parts from the Mercenary and Mounted Men At Arms boxes...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_14_09_13_2_26_52_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_14_09_13_2_26_52_3.JPG)
Now both fast-tracked to the front of the painting queue with their fellows :)
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The dandy is most dandy! :-* 8)
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Love this thread, Cap'n, never fails to impress!
Keep up the good work!
Cheers
Iain.
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Richard,
More loverrrrrllly conversions :-* :-* :-*
Is that liquid green stuff you are using or a mix of both the epoxy and the more fluid stuff?
Darrell.
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It's mostly the liquid stuff Darrell, although for the Scottish bonnet I used Milliput epoxy.
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Now watch that dandy own the game when ever you field him. lol
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Those two new poses are excellent Captain Blood. I'm definitely stealing them. My big metal order from the Perries arrived this morning and, while the figures are very nice, I think the plastic figures definitely have the edge in sharpness of detail - and the fact you can easily scrape away the mould lines, which are much finer to start with, makes them a real winner. The fact that you can mix and match to create unique poses is just a real bonus. I'm looking forward to seeing the painted figures.
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great stuff Richard
an army of unique builds would be magnificent if a little challenging.
there's an article in that though ;)
dodge
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lol thanks Rog. Not a bad idea... ;)
Littlearmies, I agree with you on all points. There are some wonderful character pieces amongst the metal ranges, but some of the figures are really quite crudely done compared with the consistent crisp excellence of the plastics. The infinite variety possible to create unique figures pretty much to your own specification, is also a massive advantage.
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I have to confess that I didn't realise until I actually came to sit down and assemble some figures (only a year or so after I bought them) that, not only the bodies but the heads are common to the Mercenaries and Bill and Bow boxes, which was a slight disappointment. What are the two new boxes that the Perries have in the pipeline going to add to the mix? I can see the utility of the light cavalry box - but I've got to say, my personal favourites amongst the foot figures are the lightly armoured figures - the more armour, the less character (and vice versa) so more armoured chaps don't appeal much.
PS - Captain Blood I have some GW arms and things that I can't see working with the Perry figures but perhaps your experienced eye can see a use for them in your project. Pm me if you are interested.
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lol thanks Rog. Not a bad idea... ;)
Funny that :D
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:D
Littlearmies - Yes, it was slightly disappointing to get exactly the same bodies and heads for the rank and file in both boxes. Given that they had to change the sprue anyway to accommodate the pike, crossbow and handgun arms, it would have been nice to get a few different heads at least. But the command frame does provide a lot of different options, and the mounted MMAA arms box provides many more. In fact there are 12 different heads in the MMAA box, 11 and 10 on the command sprues for the Mercs and WOTR boxes respectively, plus the 12 original 'standard' infantry heads - giving a choice of 45 different heads to date. I know you get a lot more of some than of others, but overall, I think that's a pretty generous assortment, and you can always customise more easily by adding or subtracting feathers, plumes, pennons and so on.
The two new sets (MAA on foot) and mounted lighter cavalry, are sure to bring at least another 20 - 24 different new heads. Beyond that, I haven't got a clue what will be included. Michael's already said it will be the same horses as in the MMAA set, although perhaps we can hope for a few different horse head options, since they won't be needing all that horse armour as lighter cavalry. As far as the foot MAA go, I really don't know. I already have far too many men-at-arms in proportion to my bow and bill armed troops, so although I will definitely get a box to see what I can do with them, I certainly won't be adding another 40 or so armoured knights to my already overweighty collection of fully armoured men. In fact, given that there has been a generous assortment of Perry metal packs of fully armoured MAA available for a couple of years now, I do wonder how well a box of plastic MAA on foot is really going to sell. But I guess they've thought about that.
Thanks for the offer of the GW arms etc. Mason has just sent me a batch, so I had better see how I get on with those first. But I'll take you up on your kind offer if more are needed. Thanks again :)
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I guess a box of heavy foot would make a good base for say a line of Scottish men at arms in a pike block and or Spanish or Italian heavy foot.
I personally would like to see figures with more of a Spanish feel or maybe even eastern European foot, with heavy flails and the like.
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Yeah, I'd guess that Michael will include a whole array of more esoteric knightly hand weapons and polearms in that set, including flails, guisarmes, ahlspeisses, etc etc.
Let's face it, they won't be needing bows, crossbows, handguns, bills, pikes or anything else that's taken up a lot of room on the frame in the previous two infantry sets.
So there should be plenty of room to include a wide assortment of weaponry and arm choices.
Hopefully :)
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Can't wait to see some paint slapped on those ne'er do wells.
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You need a spreadsheet for all the combinations Richard ;)
Got me a box of mercs at the weekend so we'll see about ramping up production a little bit :D
cheers
James
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Damn ... damn ... damn ... damn and blast it.
By Jehovah's beard, I haven't spent such an enjoyable half hour indulging my taste for beauty, since that unfortunate trek into the Sudan when a sandstorm forced us all to shelter in the one remaining tent. I haven't been able to look at a camel or a smooth-limbed arab boy since, without thinking of those abominable saddle-sores I suffered.
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You need a spreadsheet for all the combinations Richard ;)
Got me a box of mercs at the weekend so we'll see about ramping up production a little bit :D
Excellent news James! (But I shall leave the spreadsheets to our mutual friend, Mr Invader :D)
By Jehovah's beard, I haven't spent such an enjoyable half hour indulging my taste for beauty, since that unfortunate trek into the Sudan when a sandstorm forced us all to shelter in the one remaining tent. I haven't been able to look at a camel or a smooth-limbed arab boy since, without thinking of those abominable saddle-sores I suffered.
lol
Thanks.
(I think ;))
The first of the newly painted mercs are about to appear - I guess I'll post them in the medieval painting order group project first, then here in due course...
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Excellent news James! (But I shall leave the spreadsheets to our mutual friend, Mr Invader :D)
Hahaha......haha.......ha.....
:D
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Hahaha......haha.......ha.....
:D
You've done one haven't you :D
cheers
James
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You've done one haven't you :D
cheers
James
Well...... Er...... Yeah :D
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Well...... Er...... Yeah :D
lol
Let's see it then :D
cheers
James
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Go captain blood, can't wait to see the new mercs.
:o wow Steve, show us you exel masterpiece.
Do you have graphs comparing the permutations to other plastic suppliers? Such as GW and fireforge boxes?
Cheers
Matt
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Now, now chaps, I don't want to be spamming Richards spiffingly glorious thread with my boring old number crunching ..... ;)
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Spam your own then ;)
cheers
James
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lol
You're a persistent bugger aren't you!
:D
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More superb stuff Richard, :-* 8) :-* 8)
I doff my cap to you sir :D
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It's mostly the liquid stuff Darrell, although for the Scottish bonnet I used Milliput epoxy.
Ta, looking forward to seeing more of 'em painted up.... 8)
Darrell.
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Thanks lads.
Have finally managed to finish painting the last batch of 'regular' builds which I posted all the way back up on page 53 of this monster thread :)
Most of these have been appearing in the current Medieval Painting Order over the past couple of weeks.
Now here they all are together - assorted reinforcements for my various retinues...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_20_09_13_12_50_54_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_20_09_13_12_50_54_1.JPG)
Next up, more painted mercenaries, all being well...
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They're made glorious Richard, no discontent here :-*
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Bootiful.
Considerably more attractive than the embarrassing 1960's concrete block of flats style tomb being planned for poor ol' Dicky de Turd.
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/69931000/jpg/_69931161_tomb19_9.jpg)
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The overall look is gorgeous. So much color in those!
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Very nice set. I just recently revisited the BLAM game photos from last year. Eye candy plus.
And Cubs - I can't believe that thing either; I'm sure Sister Wendy is horrified.
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Top drawer as ever Richard!!
Get 'em entered into the SDF Painting comp mate.
Darrell.
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Thanks Darrell :)
Get 'em entered into the SDF Painting comp mate.
What? After my Desert Rats got soundly paffed last time out? I'm an artiste darling - my nerves can't take it.
The electorate is mainly composed of the people taking part, and I have my suspicions that perhaps not all votes are always cast purely based on an objective assessment of quality... ;)
Only the prize marrow competition at a village flower show is more brutal.
But we shall see...
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I'm an artiste darling - my nerves can't take it.
You know what, I can totally empathise. I spent weeks doing a little Marquis of Montrose vignette for a Warlord/WaMP contest a couple of years back and managed to win - £50 of vouchers!
Then there were some snide comments posted on Warlord that 'some people' were entering the contest just to promote their own business, which wasn't fair on the other competitors. I had checked beforehand that it was open to all painters, not just amateurs (whatever that may be).
I decided that losing a couple of weeks of work for £50 in vouchers, plus the emotional rollercoaster of nail-chewing whilst votes were coming in, plus the bitterness of some sad individuals (and a lot of very nice encouragement from others, it must fairly be said) just wasn't worth it. Now I try to compete against myself. I usually get at least a draw.
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Now I try to compete against myself. I usually get at least a draw.
That is indeed, the way to do it lol
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I'm an artiste darling - my nerves can't take it.
Pearls before swine luvvy, pearls before swine. I'll vote for you sweety, who cares what the proles think? lol
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You've got my vote as well! Simply stunning stuff - everything you do!
Say, will you be doing some DAK when they arrive? Would love to see them alongside the Rats......
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The electorate is mainly composed of the people taking part, and I have my suspicions that perhaps not all votes are always cast purely based on an objective assessment of quality... ;)
You're not alone in thinking that way mon ami. But sssshhhhh! ;) :)
Darrell.
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Lovely colours Richard :-*
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Thanks Steve :)
Okay, the first few of my latest batch of mercs are now getting completed. I'm posting them in the Medieval Painting Order as they get done, but since this thread is the record of my Perry plastic medieval endeavours for the last 18 months (!), I'm going to add them here too. Sorry for the double bubble ;)
The Milanese additions are all pretty much done. First up:
The uncanny marksman of Milano... 'Il Tiratore'
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_21_09_13_10_44_27.jpg)
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Bloody gorgeous, as usual, Richard.
Love his get-up!
:-* :-*
Yellow boots, though?
He had better be good if is wearing them!
:D
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Yes Richard, thats how it is done! Fantastic paint work, bright, colourful and done with depth. :-* :-*
Wish I could paint that well.
Cheers
Matt
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Great paint!
'nuff said.
tt43.
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Those trousers stripes are a masterful touch. Brilliant brushwork cap'n :-* :-*
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Possibly my favourite paint job of your recent figures, those Blue and white stripes are lovely.
Not so sure about
The uncanny marksman of Milano... 'Il Tiratore
As he appears to be lining up to blow a hole in the ground about 6 foot in front of him :)
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The uncanny marksman of Milano... 'Il Tiratore'
El Tiratûr.
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He's putting an enemy out of his misery ;)
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The electorate is mainly composed of the people taking part, and I have my suspicions that perhaps not all votes are always cast purely based on an objective assessment of quality... ;)
Only the prize marrow competition at a village flower show is more brutal.
Couldn't have said it better. This and the frugal 40 voters are my reason to stop participating there. There's a real chance only for vikings and topless maidens ... :D
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Possibly my favourite paint job of your recent figures, those Blue and white stripes are lovely.
Thanks.
Stripes are actually easy to paint but instantly give a figure a bit of wow factor :)
As these are gaudy Italians, there will be a lot of stripes!
;)
Next mercenary off the production line...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_23_09_13_12_13_10.jpg)
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Rather spiffing Richard (to say the least!)
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Darrell.
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Fare la bella figura, infatto. :-*
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These Italian troops of yours are a really wonderful, flamboyant bunch aren't they?
Stripes and all.
Great brushwork!
:-* :-*
With that red, I cannot help thinking of them as the ancestors of the Ferrari family.
Will they be designing a 'battle wagon'...?
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These Italian troops of yours are a really wonderful, flamboyant bunch aren't they?
Stripes and all.
Great brushwork!
:-* :-*
With that red, I cannot help thinking of them as the ancestors of the Ferrari family.
Will they be designing a 'battle wagon'...?
Don't get him started lol
Da Vinci...... hmmmm..... Richard?
Darrell.
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love work Cap`n, I am struggling through 8 foundry orcs in Landsnikket gear theya re a reall bugger to paint having so much gear on them, let alone choosing colours, this thread as well as eye candy and envy gives me no end of help :D 8)
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Keep at it Karl! ;)
Hmmm. Ferrari... Should have thought of that, shouldn't I? ::)
Maybe a new banner is required...
:D
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Woo, Capitain blood!!!!! :-*
If they were yellow wearing farmers, you could do Lamborghini. ;) But as hot blooded red fashionistas they probably should be elite ferrarians.
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Stripes are actually easy to paint but instantly give a figure a bit of wow factor :)
I would have to disagree with the first part but I certainly agree with the second. Your figures definitely have a great "wow" factor.
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Just fantastic. The stripes do jazz them up, and they're going the right way so as to elongate the leg, making even slightly heavier fellows look thinner. Saw that bit on Oprah once. Stripes are meant to be vertical!
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Just fantastic. The stripes do jazz them up, and they're going the right way so as to elongate the leg, making even slightly heavier fellows look thinner. Saw that bit on Oprah once. Stripes are meant to be vertical!
(http://www.comedix.de/grafik/figuren/obelix_gmbh.jpg)
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(http://www.comedix.de/grafik/figuren/obelix_gmbh.jpg)
Exactly!
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"Ich bin ein Bilderdied!"
That's a bit unfair....
Darrell.
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"Ich bin ein Bilderdied!"
That's a bit unfair....
Darrell.
Disgraceful. If there's one thing they won't tolerate in Germany, it's theft.*
*Unless it's a country.
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Disgraceful. If there's one thing they won't tolerate in Germany, it's theft.*
*Unless it's a country.
Quite right too..... Off with their heads! lol
Darrell.
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Disgraceful. If there's one thing they won't tolerate in Germany, it's theft.*
*Unless it's a country.
Am I a bad person for laughing uproariously at that footnote? lol
Stripes are actually easy to paint but instantly give a figure a bit of wow factor :)
So true! Very nice work nonetheless :) Looking forward to your striped mercs!
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Am I a bad person for laughing uproariously at that footnote? lol
If you are, rest assured that you are not alone.
:D
lol lol lol
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Great work on the hand gunners :)
Jason.
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Thanks :)
Next up...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_25_09_13_7_14_26.jpg)
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brilliant, really liking your reds :)
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like him - well done :o
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Superb Stuff Richard, i'm loving the merc Goodness :-* 8) :-* 8) :-* 8) :-*
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Cracking 8)
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Beautiful! Your colours are spot on :)
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:-* :-* :-*Great work Richard...oh, and some spare heads on their way to you!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ah, thanks Rob :)
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:-* :-* Beautifull!! Love the colours!
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Spot on stripes Cap'n 8)
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Thanks Chris and Paul :)
Here's the next Merc.
'The Flemish Bastard', wearing his great great great great grandpa's great helm!
;)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_27_09_13_7_59_17.jpg)
And here's one of the group so far - mercenary handgunners to a man... (except for the crossbow, obviously :D)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_27_09_13_8_07_56.jpg)
Scots coming up next.
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Beautiful work, really nice rust effect on the great helm.
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Here's the next Merc.
'The Flemish Bastard', wearing his great great great great grandpa's great helm!
;)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_27_09_13_7_59_17.jpg)
The Antwerp Ned Kelly ? :D
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:-* :-* :-* superb painting!
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Monsewer Kelly looks great.
:-*
Known as 'Old Big 'Ead' by friends and family.....
;)
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Love the rust on the great helm and it's a great idea for some GoT figures ;)
cheers
James
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GREAT new bunch of fellows there. Sure to stir up troble!
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spectacular tone and shading captain blood. he really looks the part.
Monsewer Kelly looks great.
:-*
Known as 'Old Big 'Ead' by friends and family.....
;)
Hahahahaha. That cracked me up, his dignity and tradition reduced in others eyes by his comical approach to battle. I should imagine him swagering around the battle field using lofty speach like some medieval lord.
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Ta :)
I now have the new Scots mercenary additions mostly painted... First up, a man-at-arms...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_01_10_13_10_46_18.jpg)
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You are being very productive! :-*
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You are being very productive! :-*
Its annoying isn't it. ???
Up to your usual excellent standard (bastard!) :D
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Ta :)
I now have the new Scots mercenary additions mostly painted... First up, a man-at-arms...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_01_10_13_10_46_18.jpg)
That is one cracking suit of armour! Great improvement on your metals! :-* :-*
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That is one cracking suit of armour! Great improvement on your metals! :-* :-*
lol
The sort of comment that could only come from you :) lol
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Richard,
wonderful figure and brilliant paint. Did you send the pics to the P-Brother for their website??? Is the blue-toned Metal from Vallejo?
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lol
Why thank you Thorbjorn :)
Dirk - yes. It's Vallejo Gunmetal Blue with a little silver mixed in for the highlights.
I have done several of the previous men-at-arms in blued armour, but I must say, this one looks particularly shiny ;)
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Echo the love about the metal tone; it brings to life a well-oiled and polished suit of armour without looking too garish.
On that subject, someone once suggested I paint a WoTR model purely in chrome-effect NMM. I told them to perform an indecent act of themself.
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Hmmm. Don't blame you.
I really don't get the whole NMM thing - bit of a painterly affectation beloved of the CMON tendency as far as I'm concerned...
I like my armour properly shiny! ;)
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I really don't get the whole NMM thing
I like it in the right circumstances, but I rarely, if ever, go for the super-polished chrome effect. I like to go a little more subtlely, so that people don't really know if it's NMM or not, they just think it looks like normal metal (like on those Vikings).
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Yep - the vikings looked great :)
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I think it would be nice, as a kind of "halftime-report", to see all your stuff in one picture. Or do you come with it to the BLAMTM?
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Yes, it will all be at BLAM for one of the Sunday games, Dirk - so perhaps you'll play if there's time before you have to head back to the airport :)
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I like my armour properly shiny! ;)
Hear hear! Though sometimes "properly" only means pure silver on the highlights.
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Up to your usual excellent standard (bastard!) :D
What he said! :D
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Nice work, Captain!
Be careful though, all this blue armour business could lead you astray.
You may well be painting Chaos Warriors next, at this rate.
;)
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Love that blue'd armour Richard - was going to try a blue glaze over my usual armour colours, but now will have to get me some of that paint!
Simon.
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Yes, it will all be at BLAM for one of the Sunday games, Dirk - so perhaps you'll play if there's time before you have to head back to the airport :)
I think we can see all the stuff on sunday. For gaming the time is quiet short...
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Next Scots merc...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_03_10_13_10_03_15.jpg)
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Next Scots merc...
I really like that guy. Dressed up, feather in his cap, but he looks the business.
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Great work alround Capt, but those Scottish guys are the best! ;)
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lol
Not that you're biased Andrew ;)
I have several more Scots to come. I actually like this colour scheme best of all the ones I've done (shamelessly borrowed from the Ibelin livery in 'Kingdom of Heaven')
Meanwhile...
Here's the start of the promised new mercenary company - barbaric Balkan Mercenaries!
Don't ask me where they come from... Bosniaks, Wallachians, Moldovans, Kosovars... An entirely fanciful bunch from the outermost fringes of Christendom.
Strictly non-historical, since I don't think there's any evidence for East European mercenaries fighting in the Wars of the Roses.
And if they did, they probably looked nothing like this... :D
I am indebted to Arkoudaki for kindly supplying a selection of heads from the Perry Sudanese Ansar and Zouave boxes. Both of which serve very well for a kind of non-specific East European exoticness... Thanks Rob.
The big shields are from the Foundry (Copplestone-sculpted) El Dorado Adventurers.
The small shields are Foundry Pathan bucklers with an extra central stud made from Green Stuff.
The fur capes are added with Green Stuff. First time I've used the proper epoxy stuff, and it took a long while to go off. But think it's now hard enough to give it a light dusting of undercoat...
These three are made using Nile Arab heads. The Polish style cap is built up over a skull cap using Green Stuff. Moustaches, tassels etc all GS.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_05_10_13_2_36_53_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_05_10_13_2_36_53_1.JPG)
And these three are made using Zouave heads. No real titivating necessary.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_05_10_13_2_36_53_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_05_10_13_2_36_53_3.JPG)
I'm looking forward to getting these under the paintbrush!
(I'm seeing greens, golds, and a spalsh of crimson... ;))
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wow! can't wait to see them painted!
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Arhh, here they are, so the GS eventually hardened then?
They look like a vicious nasty bunch of N'er do wells. Those different heads really work, especially the Sudanese and the GS extras look great. ;D
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There's no stopping him!
:-* 8)
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I really like these Richard, excellent jigging around of bits :-*
They'll quite possibly do for Dorne or one of the Free Cities for GoT as well :D
cheers
James
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They are very nice figures - they could work for the Italian Wars.
Mick
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:-* :-* Lovely.
How many painted figs have you got ? must be quite a few
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I like those a lot, really nice conversions. Looking forward to seeing them painted up. Though I'm not sure how well such a colourful unit will suit your usual subdued palette ;) .
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Arhh, here they are, so the GS eventually hardened then?
I've decided it never actually goes properly hard. Seems to turn into a kind of polythene like consistency when it sets. Stops being malleable, and sets in place, yet remains inherently flexible - like I could stick my thumbnail into it if I pushed hard. Think it's just a different consistency from what I'm used to with Milliput...
How many painted figs have you got ? must be quite a few
Hmmm. Not sure. Must be pushing 250 now. I need to do a spreadsheet :)
They'll quite possibly do for Dorne or one of the Free Cities for GoT as well :D
Good point, well made - Braavos, I think :D
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Pure swank. Love the guy with the polearm. Wonder how one would look with the baggy Zouave trousers....
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Very snazzy conversions! I mean, this whole thread is superb, but these Balkan guys strike a special chord. You could get some early Jannissaries and do some Fall of Constantinople skirmishing...
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Thanks - not a bad idea.
By the way, if anyone has any more of those Foundry El Dorado / Conquistadore spiky shields knocking around, and isn;t going to use them... Please pm me, and I'll buy or trade for them. Thanks :)
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Awesome......
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Splendid stuff Richard, every time I contemplate off loading mine you seem to post something new and I think I might keep them a bit longer after all.
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Lovely work Richard. Love the variety.
Helen
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Zouave baggy trousers isn't a bad idea 8)
cheers
James
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Oh boy
Look at this lot
I turn my back for a few weeks and look what's been done
Absolutely stunning stuff Richard, a delight to catch up with this mighty thread that was being discussed within my earshot in of all places NZ this morning, by of all people, I kid you not, an Australian
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those Balkan mercs look pretty cool! Can't wait to see them painted
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Thanks folks :)
Absolutely stunning stuff Richard, a delight to catch up with this mighty thread that was being discussed within my earshot in of all places NZ this morning, by of all people, I kid you not, an Australian
Kerry, they have Australians in New Zealand? :o :o
(I didn't think that was allowed ;))
Splendid stuff Richard, every time I contemplate off loading mine you seem to post something new and I think I might keep them a bit longer after all.
I feel the same about those Copplestone 15mm barbarians of yours... ;)
Just can't kick the urge to do something with them, despite my rational judgement not to go there...
Anyway, here's the next painted up Scots mercenary handgunner...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_06_10_13_12_38_10.jpg)
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He looks very good - but why does he have a closed face sallet?
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Because he can, Mick :D
I'm afraid historical accuracy is not that important to me. I just like making and painting figures that look good and plausible. An expert would find many things wrong with many of my figures, I'm sure. Probably there were no Scottish handgunners either - I just don't know. It's all a bit fanciful really. Still, it keeps me happy :)
Cheers.
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If anyone points out that the Scottish saltire wasn't in use at that date, just tell them it's not the Scottish saltire - it's a St Andrew's cross!
Who's to say this particular hand gunner didn't see a nice helmet on the floor in a battlefield one day and say, "That looks nice, I'm having that". Perhaps it keeps the smoke out of his eyes? Perhaps it looks swish? Perhaps he once got smacked in the face with something nasty and didn't want the experience repeated? Perhaps he forgot to shave and is embarrassed?
I like to stick to historical accuracy if I can, but tere's an awful lot that lies outside the 'rules' and rests in the random wastes of human decision making. I'm pretty sure umbrellas, broadswords and longbows weren't part of official British officers' weaponry in WW2, but it didn't stop them being carried!
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(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_05_10_13_2_36_53_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_05_10_13_2_36_53_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_05_10_13_2_36_53_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_05_10_13_2_36_53_3.JPG)
All your stuff is brilliant, Richard but these are personal favourites of mine. Do I detect a certain longing to try something more 'free-form' after 250 miniatures of late medieval miniatures? :)
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Can't wait to see paint on these.
How will the mercs work game-wise? A force any player can hire or does each side have "designated" mercs? Will the mercs work with each other or tend to stick to their small national bands?
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Outstanding Capitan lol The creative juices must be in spate 8)
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Love those Merc kit-bashes.
They work really well.
8)
The pretty Scot ain't too shoddy neither.
:-*
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Thanks lads.
Plenty more where these came from. I've hit a productive seam. But it will soon be worked out ;)
How will the mercs work game-wise? A force any player can hire or does each side have "designated" mercs? Will the mercs work with each other or tend to stick to their small national bands?
They stick in their companies, but the companies can serve any employer. At the moment I have nationality-based companies, like Milanese, Flemings, Scots, and now... Let's call them Wallachians - although I doubt they bear any resemblance to historical Wallachians...
But it might be quite fun to do a mixed nationality mercenary company of pure, ultimate professionals... hmmm... ::)
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Glad to see those heads being put to good use...and fueling your creative juices!!!!!!!!!!! I think this series should be known as the 'Arkoudaki Balkan' range....which in English would be little bear Balkan range :D ;)
Looking forward to your usual oh so colorful paint job! :)
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Your Balkanese warriors look rather convincing, kudos
there are a few Romanian historical movies that could inspire You
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But it might be quite fun to do a mixed nationality mercenary company of pure, ultimate professionals... hmmm... ::)
Double 'ard bastards then 8)
cheers
James
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You'll call them the A-Team? Now there's an image: a B. A. Baracus type in gold armour. lol
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Thanks lads.
Plenty more where these came from. I've hit a productive seam. But it will soon be worked out ;)
They stick in their companies, but the companies can serve any employer. At the moment I have nationality-based companies, like Milanese, Flemings, Scots, and now... Let's call them Wallachians - although I doubt they bear any resemblance to historical Wallachians...
But it might be quite fun to do a mixed nationality mercenary company of pure, ultimate professionals... hmmm... ::)
That might be a pretty wild bunch. Rather like a flock of geese. ;)
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There was in iffy film out (in the 80's I think) called 'Flesh and Blood', about a bunch of medieval/rennaissance mercenaries ... they were led by ... wait for it ... Rutger Hauer! If that's not a guarantee of quality viewing I don't know what is!
Did I mention he had a really big greatsword?
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There was in iffy film out (in the 80's I think) called 'Flesh and Blood', about a bunch of medieval/rennaissance mercenaries ... they were led by ... wait for it ... Rutger Hauer! If that's not a guarantee of quality viewing I don't know what is!
Did I mention he had a really big greatsword?
Great film! Made even better with half the cast dubbed lol For some reason, and I seriously don't know why, it gives the film a more real o_o
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There was in iffy film out (in the 80's I think) called 'Flesh and Blood', about a bunch of medieval/rennaissance mercenaries ... they were led by ... wait for it ... Rutger Hauer! If that's not a guarantee of quality viewing I don't know what is!
Did I mention he had a really big greatsword?
That is a film that I still find pretty entertaining.
If you have not seen it, Richard (which I am sure that you must have at some point...), I shall bring it with me to SELWG for you to borrow.
I am sure it will provide some decent inspiration.
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It inspired me to almost order a box of fellas to convert to a band of roaming no-gooders (and instant-plague victims).
Thankfully my salary has been greeked (cut in half), so all expenses are in the future. Which isn't now...
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Thanks Paul - I do remember watching that :)
Rutger in his prime...
'I've seen things you people wouldn't believe...'
:)
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WOW!
I have just spent 3 glorious hours reading this whole thread. I bought a box of the Perry infantry off ebay for a trifling, just because I could not let Perry figures go for that little. Had no clue I would win. I will have to dig them out of the shed and spend some hours TRYING to make such figures as seen here. Please keep up the great work. It is inspiring for so many of us.
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This is a marvelous thread keep them coming great inspiration!
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Thanks Tom, and welcome :)
Next one...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_08_10_13_9_58_43.jpg)
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"PULL!"
Lovely colour choices, Richard.
:-*
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"PULL!"
Lovely colour choices, Richard.
:-*
Oh, you are such a rattle... lol
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Oh, you are such a rattle... lol
He's even better with a pint or two ::) lol
Thinking about it though, it's quite an interesting pose. I know Richard that you don't give that much of a fig for accuracy but a y particular reason for the high pose?
cheers
James
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Any particular reason for the high pose?
Yes James, he's either shooting someone up on the battlements - or a very tall Cumbrian bloke.
You decide.
;)
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Well it can't be both, as that wizard's tower isn't complete lol
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I'd say he is having a crack at some clay pigeons Richard. Lovely little chap.
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You decide.
;)
Alright then, he's very short, bald and a wannabe property tycoon shooting up at a normal sized bloke lol
cheers
James
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We don't know anyone like that, do we?
;)
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Yes James, he's either shooting someone up on the battlements - or a very tall Cumbrian bloke.
You decide.
;)
Couldn't it be recoil? It's a bit of a cannon.
Inspirational paint slinging Cap :)
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He's at a concert and some eejit has put his annoying girlfriend on his shoulders to show off and block the view of everyone else. The exhibitionist bint is screaming and waving her arms around for extra attention, so Angus decides enough is enough ...
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He's taking a pot shot at a flying wild haggis surely?
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He is merely zeroing in on his target bringing it to bare, lovely model 8)
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And I'm back on the Milanese...
This one's another Capitano...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_10_10_13_6_58_38.jpg)
Rather odd. I took pics of the figure from several angles within a few seconds of each other. But when I stitch them together into a triptych, the backgrounds are all different colours ???
IRRITATING...
Ah well.
Couple more Milanese and two Flemings to finish, then I can make a start on the beastly Balkans...
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Love the head gear :-*
cheers
James
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Bloody hell, mate!
Those are some seriously loud colours.
Only you could get away with that.
Stunning!
:-*
Love the head gear :-*
I can just see you in one of those, sir!
lol
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I like him :o
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Nice work Richard.
Cheers,
Helen
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lovely
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Rather odd. I took pics of the figure from several angles within a few seconds of each other. But when I stitch them together into a triptych, the backgrounds are all different colours ???
IRRITATING...
Yep, that's been pissing me off for years, never been able to figure it out. I think it's down to the lighting and macro photography, tiny movement can completely change how a photo turns out.
Doesn't effect the painting though, which is superb as usual 8)
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the only thing one can do about it is recalibrate the white for every picture when You take it
it is the digital photography....
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Rather odd. I took pics of the figure from several angles within a few seconds of each other. But when I stitch them together into a triptych, the backgrounds are all different colours ???
IRRITATING...
Looks to me like the background is the same in each image. It just happens to be a slight gradient, so the blue left edge of each pic clashes with the white right edge. It's consistent, just not symmetrical.
But that's not really important. What's important is the incoming painted Balkan mercs. Can't wait!
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Here's the next one...
The artist formerly known as 'Gianluigi the Buffoon' - first seen all the way back on page 32 of this thread (now slightly repurposed... )
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_12_10_13_9_52_10.jpg)
I've also concocted yet another Milanese shooter, using one of the GW heads kindly supplied by Mason.
The GW heads are a whisker on the large side relative to the Perry bodies, but once painted, I don't think it's going to notice too much...
In Mason's honour, I Christen this one, 'Paolo the Myopic' - peering short-sightedly at his handgun as he attempts to reload it...
He should never have gone into the black powder business really, but he comes from a long line of mercenary bastardos... ;)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_12_10_13_10_16_49.JPG)
Here, together, are the 5 new Milanese recently added to the collection. I think that brings me up to 20 in that particular mercenary company... Once I've painted Paolo, I'll take a pic of the whole rascally, stripey gang of them...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_12_10_13_9_44_38_1.JPG)
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Very nice free-hand. And overall a great bunch of scapegraces. 8)
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Here's the next one...
The artist formerly known as 'Gianluigi the Buffoon'
Bloody gorgeous, Richard.
Love that shield.
:-*
In Mason's honour, I Christen this one, 'Paolo the Myopic' - peering short-sightedly at his handgun as he attempts to reload it...
He should never have gone into the black powder business really, but he comes from a long line of mercenary bastardos... ;)
lol
Bloody cheek!
A fella could take umbrage at having his lineage called into question.
:-[
He could, but he wont.
;)
Looking forward to seeing the blind bugger painted up.
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Short sightedness isn't a problem with a handgun, just point it in the general direction and open up ::)
Colourful chaps, always interesting to see what poses people come up with
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These Milanese are superb. Could be used for the beginning phases of the "Italian Wars."
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Very nice free-hand. And overall a great bunch of scapegraces. 8)
Hmm, I hadn't heard 'scapegrace' before. Great word :)
Very fine painting Captain, I'm always happy to see your efforts!
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I always look for updates to Captain Blood threads...and I'm never disappointed. Wonderful as always.
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Wonderful additions :-*
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I always look for updates to Captain Blood threads...and I'm never disappointed. Wonderful as always.
^ This right here. :D
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I'm lost for words at how superb these are Richard :-* :-* :-*
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WOW nuff said :o :-*
Jason.
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Looking forward to seeing the blind bugger painted up.
And here he is... Last of the Milanese handguns... (For now... )
Paolo the Myopic.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/15/577_26_10_13_4_08_00.jpg)
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The blind bugger looks most excellent, Cap'n!
:-*
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And here he is... Last of the Milanese handguns...
Shame, I was enjoying that series, excellent work Ricardo 8)
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As always great job. Pozhskazhite please what colors do you use? What the manufacturer. Gets a very bright figures :)
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Don't worry bugsda, there are still the eastern mercs.
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Stunning work Richard ! Lovel the bright colours !
Best regards Michael
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What colors do you use? What the manufacturer. Gets a very bright figures :)
On the Milanese - GW 'Evil Sunz Scarlet' cut with Vallejo deep yellow for the red. Vallejo dark blue cut with white for the light blue. The figure also looks very bright, because it's photographed under a very bright light :)
Don't worry bugsda, there are still the eastern mercs.
Yes, but before I get round to those, I have a few more Flemings to finish off... :)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/15/577_27_10_13_6_14_41.jpg)
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My, that's a big plume ;D
cheers
James
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Bloody hell, Richard, Rod Hull would be most upset if he could see what had happened to his mate!
:D
Nice vibrant work, as usual.
:-*
My, that's a big plume ;D
Careful.......you will only get Lofty excited with that kind of talk.
;)
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Watch out for low bridges!! :D Excellent painting as usual and amazing colour pallette.
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My, that's a big plume ;D
one can't be sure if Fleming or Flamingo ;)
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one can't be sure if Fleming or Flamingo ;)
lol
It's an emu, I tell ya!
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Another Flemish crossbowman (I've discovered I hate painting crossbows - so ludicrously fiddly - so I won;t be doing too many more of these... )
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/15/577_01_11_13_11_45_42.jpg)
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Excellent as usual 8)
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Another Flemish crossbowman (I've discovered I hate painting crossbows - so ludicrously fiddly - so I won;t be doing too many more of these... )
I'm surprised that you find anything fiddly :)
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Really nicely done ....
..... A fiddly pj because it is a detailed pj?!
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...and they do look superb, so worth th fiddliness :D 8)
www.gallopingmajorwargames.com
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I think 83 pages speaks for itself!!!! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Darrell.
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I agree with Darrell! This is an epic (as my 13 year old son would call it) painting thread. I hope when I pick up a few boxes of Gripping Beast vikings I can be like you when I grow up. lol
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Excellent work as we've all come to expect. You don't ever take a day off do you?! ;) :-* 8)
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That hat flag looks silly ;D
;)
cheers
James
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Okay, so here are the figures which can be found somewhere way up above in this thread, finally painted and fresh from the Lead Painters League.
I originally conceived them as some kind of Balkan mercenaries for Wars of the Roses era, but then realised they would double up rather well as Lyseni or Braavosi sellswords for my Game of Thrones side project. So I am posting them in both relevant long running threads!
I've got a few more of these half made up... More progress in due course, once the LPL is wrapped up :)
For those that don't want to look back to the unpainted figures, the bodies are Perry WOTR figures, with slightly adapted Perry heads from the ACW zouave and Sudanese ansar boxes. The shields are metal Foundry shields from the Eldorado Adventurers (big shields) and Pathan ranges (bucklers). The fur capes are added from Green Stuff.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/17/577_20_04_14_8_46_57_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/17/577_20_04_14_8_46_57_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/17/577_20_04_14_8_46_57_2.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/17/577_20_04_14_8_46_57_3.jpg)
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Cracking stuff, CB. Very East European looking.
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Excellent work Richard, really love these :-* :-* :-*
I've got another idea for BLAM :D
cheers
James
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I've got another idea for BLAM :D
Aha!
We're going to need a longer weekend lol
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Wicked Kewl. Lovin the Village People moustaches. :D
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Bleedin' lovely, your honour.
:D :-* :D
Wicked Kewl. Lovin the Village People moustaches. :D
lol
Only you would think of them.... ::)
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those are works of art :D
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Wowzer!!!
Wicked Kewl. Lovin the Village People. :D
Is that the fez effect? lol
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Incredible work! I never cease to be astounded by the standard of work you post of here, Cap'n... :o :o :o
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Those are some of my favorite Captain Bloods to date, very clever, really sharp conversions, and great color schemes.
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Brilliant stufff... :-*
Very inspiring.
DV
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Some of your best work yet. :)
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Looking good :)
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Fabulous Darling!
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Cracking work! :o For some reason they remind of the buccaneers Conan meets in Savage Sword of Conan "The Treasure of Tranicos" if you want another use for them.
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Blimey Richard I don't know how you manage to post better & better stuff every time, just superb :-* :-* 8) 8)
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(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/17/577_20_04_14_8_46_57_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/17/577_20_04_14_8_46_57_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/17/577_20_04_14_8_46_57_2.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/17/577_20_04_14_8_46_57_3.jpg)
Feck but they're good. I love the way you paint dude; the colours are gorgeous with a real rennaissance feel. These guys just ooze Eastern Europe and the Black Sea.
Course, it's just craft not art.
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Oooh, these are *ruddy* good, Richard, my boy!
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Thank you fellows.
In truth, on reflection, I think the colours are just a little too acidic. But never mind. You certainly won't miss these lads on the tabletop :)
(It may also be that the photos are slightly over-exposed)
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What kind of talk is that mun? Never regret! Never tone it down!
I've lost all respect for you now with that weak display of self-doubt.
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lol
Never satisfied me...
Right, must go and do some gardening ::)
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very, very envious...fantastic work :o....the only consolation i have is no gardening to do lol
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Capt. I have been waiting to see these,and the wait has been worthwhile .
Really great love the colours,real gritty looking swords for hire. :) :) :)
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Fantastic work Captain
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Thank you fellows.
In truth, on reflection, I think the colours are just a little too acidic
No way! They are brilliant!
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Wonderful conversions Richard - great ideas & brilliantly executed.
Simon.
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Keep them coming Captain
Keep them coming...
Lovely painting. :-* :-* :-*
Cheers
Rui
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Stunning work Richard !
Greate inspiration to what is possible with the perry plastics !
Best regards Michael
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I love the colours :D
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Thanks gents :)
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Wonderfully subtle conversion work Richard (ever thought about doing a bit of sculpting from scratch?) .... and brushwork to die for :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Darrell.
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ever thought about doing a bit of sculpting from scratch?
Darrell.
Funny you should say that Darrell... My thoughts have been turning that way...
I mean, really, how hard can it be? ;)
lol
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Funny you should say that Darrell... My thoughts have been turning that way...
I mean, really, how hard can it be? ;)
lol
I know..... :).
Reckon' you've got it within you though Richard :)
Darrell.
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Thanks for this really inspirational thread. I started reading it yesterday and finished it this morning, flabbergasted by your beautiful painting! I love the colours. I already had some Perry WOTR infantry but reading through this I kept diving off to buy stuff. The MMAA are on their way as are some GW Errant Knights. I also want to try your method of painting the lances as that looks marvellous, not sure if I can get mine looking as good as yours but I'll give it a shot. Once again, thanks for the inspiration.
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Thank you :)
Good luck with it.
Painting the lances is not difficult - just a bit blimmin fiddly. The key is not to panic - just go back round in the opposing colour and keep touching up the lines until they appear more or less equally spaced...
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Funny you should say that Darrell... My thoughts have been turning that way...
I mean, really, how hard can it be? ;)
lol
Go for it. :)
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This post is just awesome! Very inspirational!
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In awe of your tremendous work as ever!
A quick question, and I apologise if this well known to everyone (other than me) or plastered all over the site and I've just missed it (I have searched, promise), but where do you chaps get those lovely flowers for the bases?
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Thanks :)
They are 'flower tufts' manufactured by silflor. They come in a wide range of colours (and some different sizes). You can get them in rows too, and weed tufts,, stemmed flowers, all sorts. In the UK, you can get them from Mutineer Miniatures or Antenocitis. Both carry pretty much the full range, and have these on their websites for mail order. Prices are more or less the same. There are probably other stockists as well, but I've always got mine from one or other of the above. Hope helpful.
By the way, once the Perry foot knights box is produced, this thread will be resuscitated with a new lease of life... ;)
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Brilliant, thank you.
I too am eagerly awaiting the Perry foot knights. In a fit of excitement brought on by all the lovely Game of Thrones inspired threads I was going to buy a box of Fireforge Templars and get stuck in, but I think I'd like to wait until the Perrys are available and I can mix and match the bits somewhat. My vision of Westerosian knights has rather more plate armour than the Fireforge box provides...
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Bloody excellent conversions Richard and the usual high standard of brushwork (as we have come to expect) :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Darrell.
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Not dead, only resting... 8)
Well, here goes with another chapter in the never-ending saga…
The last thing I need is more fully armoured men-at-arms, because I already have far too many in relation to the number of billmen and bowmen in my Wars of The Roses forces. But since Perry Miniatures have been so obliging as to produce a fourth gorgeous set for the period (‘foot knights’) I have no option but to dabble ::)
So I’ve built a few – just one frame’s-worth to begin with, really just to check out the components and see what’s possible with this exponential increase in spare parts for the Perry plastic WOTR modeller…
First thing to say – I totally agree with the other reviews I’ve seen of these. They are bloody lovely. Michael has really excelled himself here. Not only is the detailing exceptional as usual, but the poses in this set are much more dynamic. The different arm and body combinations lend themselves to all sorts of interesting and dramatic poses. And when you factor in all the available parts from the previous sets, the possibilities for creating exciting, interesting new poses are surely infinite.
I haven’t touched the figures on the command frame yet - it’s too precious. You only get one in a box (boo!) I’m going to think very carefully about what I do with these two figures (until the Perrys make this frame available as a separate purchase, which I’m sure they will). But what I almost certainly won’t do, is use them as shown on the box which would be a bit too obvious for my twisted mind…
The only part I’ve used from the command frame is the head wearing the closed sallet encircled with a crown. As soon as I saw the three-ups of this little piece, I knew exactly what I was going to do with it…
It’s my take on Graham Turner’s stunning painting of Bosworth – Richard III’s final charge. It’s not quite the same as the painting, because I couldn’t achieve quite the right horse pose (well, not without a lot of major surgery). And I wanted my Richard in a tabard, not bare armour. But it’s such an iconic image, I had to attempt it…
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_07_09_14_5_59_27_0.JPG)
Now onto the foot knights…
The first one is an unhorsed knight on the defensive, wielding his big sword.
I nearly used the other Richard III head (long hair) included on the command frame, but then decided that was a bit obvious too. I am going to do something special with that in due course… So I used one of the bare heads from the Mounted Men At Arms set instead…
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_07_09_14_5_59_27_1.JPG)
Next, this chap is a build straight from the FK box. I LOVE this pose. I love this helmet. He looks so damned menacing. I think he’s saying: ‘Come near me and I’m going to chop your f*cking head off… ‘ He’s the static body in a livery coat. Very determined stance. I’ve added a hefty green stuff pommel to his sword, because I think it makes him look even more lethal.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_07_09_14_5_59_27_2.JPG)
Next, a vicious brawler in the thick of the melee. Sword and dagger. This is the other liveried coated body included on each main frame – leaning into the attack. This looks a very versatile body in an aggressive stance, and I think it’s going to be one of my favourites (also because I like painting livery coats more than I like painting armour… ) Once again, all these parts come from the new FK set.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_07_09_14_5_59_27_3.JPG)
Next, some sort of European. I don’t know quite what he is yet, but the combination of that Frenchified helmet, the alspeiss, and the elegant stance makes me think he can’t be English.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_07_09_14_5_59_28_4.JPG)
Again, these are all-new components from the FK set, apart from his scabbarded sword, from the MMAA set.
Now this next one is definitely English. I’ve popped the shouting head of an ordinary billmen/bowman onto a new advancing FK body, and placed the arms well back, so he’s walking forward, chest-out, like a football hooligan shaping for a fight on a Saturday night… ‘Come on then! You want some, do you?!’
Love him.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_07_09_14_6_02_05_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_07_09_14_6_02_05_1.JPG)
And this is the sixth and final body from the main sprue – another advancing pose. Taking a swing with his poleaxe. Rather fancy armour, so I used one of the MMAA high-domed, closed sallets on him. Another one you wouldn’t want to mess with…
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_07_09_14_6_02_05_2.JPG)
Having used the six bodies provided, I’ve then tried a few mash-ups with some of the spare arms and heads. This one is one of the two armoured command bodies from the original bows and bills set, now paired with a pair of poleaxe arms from the new FK set, plus one of my favourite heads from the Mercenaries set. I think this one’s probably going to join my Flemings…
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_07_09_14_6_02_05_3.JPG)
And finally, one of the regular, brigandine-wearing bodies from the bows and bills / Mercs set, paired with another pair of swinging poleaxe arms, and the new ‘kettle helm-mit-eyeslits’ from the FK box…
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_07_09_14_6_02_05_4.JPG)
Not sure how I’m going to paint these lads yet... (or indeed when!)
Maybe I’ll start a whole new faction with them… We shall see. Glad to have built a few though. Good fun. Lots more ideas of other things to do with this new set too…
Happy days ;)
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(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_07_09_14_5_59_28_4.JPG)
"Would you mind terribly if I poked at you with my pointy stick?"
Quite excited for another 86 pages.
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Splendid inspiration 8)
I'm going to wait until after BLAM before purchasing though as I don't want to get distracted lol
cheers
James
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Wish i had picked a box up yesterday now.Very nice looking pieces.
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Lovely! :-* Can't wait to see them painted ;D
The unhorsed knight looks to have suffered a concussion, to me looks bit unsure, confused, having lost his helmet falling from horse and all, yet still instincts kicking in and drawing his sword to defend himself…
And facing him the "hooligan", coming to finish the poor, still shaken lad…
Excellent Sir, excellent!
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Superb stuff. Really looking forward to the painted finished figures 8)
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very well done dynamics, they all wear the armour in a very naturalistic way, without the posing that is often seen on miniatures
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Nice work. :o
I will have to buy another command sprue to make Richard on horseback.
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Really nice. This box may be making its way up my to buy list.
Its great to see how dynamic the poses are - and how the new arms transform the old bodies.
Is there a reason why some parts of the figures look very shiny?
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God, these are brilliant. :-*
I think that "hooligan" and "kettlehelm mit eyeslits" are just perfect. Exactly the sort of mad hard bastards I always envisaged from this range.
Can't wait to pick a box up myself, put three together, fall far short of this and put the others on the pile with the other boxes' contents. ;D
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Liking these assemblies Richard - just getting first splashes paint on mine - the detail's very fine on the armour plates.
Simon
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Brilliant stuff.
My WOTR resistance is withering away to a tissue-thin gossamer.
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Here we go again.. ;)
Nice stuff Cap. Look forward to seeing the finished product. :D
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My god Richard, how do you keep producing these little masterpieces? Fantastic work as usual.
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I knew you couldn't resist! :)
Wonderful poses awaiting fabulous paint jobs...
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Lovely work Richard :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Lovely stuff Richard :-*
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Great Richard,
these black-and-white-style is great! ;) lol
When can we expect the first painted beauties????
(I know the problem of to less time and to much things to paint)
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Thanks all.
Dirk - Yes, I have rather a lot of painting to get done ahead of BLAM, and not very much time to do it :(
So, alas, I don't expect to start painting these new figures until the end of October; although I may build a few more in the interim, because I like making them almost more than I like painting them!
To be fair, these are also the easiest to paint since they are mostly just armour, so they shouldn't take too long once I get onto them :)
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Very well build figures Richard! I just got a box too on Saturday and started building some for my upcoming Lannister project. They are really nice figures and lend themselves to kit bashing quit well . I added shields from the Fireforge knights and a few other parts from Gripping beast sets to make them more high medieval fantasy like. Pictures will follow shortly.
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I was waiting for the foot knights to show up :)
Very good start so far, looking forward to the results!
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Very nice builds !
Good inspiration for me to start to build some of my own.
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Thanks Michael. I have these half painted, but need to get my BLAM painting done over the next few days before I can turn my attention back to these... :)
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I play a little game with this thread. I stay away from it for a while (resistance is hard), so when I return there's a feast of goodies to admire. A bit like leaving a packet of unopened Jaffa cakes next to your favourite armchair, you resist and resist but when you open them it was worth the wait.
Bravo Richard.
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A bit like leaving a packet of unopened Jaffa cakes next to your favourite armchair, you resist and resist but when you open them it was worth the wait.
You obviously mean those posh passion fruit and something flavoured ones you get from Marks & Spencer's in this case though. ;)
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You obviously mean those posh passion fruit and something flavoured ones you get from Marks & Spencer's in this case though. ;)
lol
He's got you sussed ;D
cheers
James
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Argh, do you have to keep showing these fantastic pictures >:(
I am trying to resist buying more stuff but my resolve is weakening :(
It doesn't help that WotR is one off my favourite periods and my local games store has some in stock ::)
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Finally found some time to paint!
Having overloaded my existing fictional / semi-fictional WOTR households with men-at-arms and billmen already, the new Perry foot knights present a bit of a dilemma.
The only solution seems to be to create a new faction which could legitimately be 'men-at-arms heavy'...
With this in mind, after around 250 of these figures, I have finally succumbed to painting one of the big historical houses. And they don't come any bigger than: York.
So finally, I get to paint the fabled 'murrey-and-blue'... :)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_19_10_14_5_36_54_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_19_10_14_5_36_54_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_19_10_14_5_34_18_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_19_10_14_5_34_19_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_19_10_14_5_34_18_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_19_10_14_5_34_19_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_19_10_14_5_36_53_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_19_10_14_5_34_19_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_19_10_14_5_36_54_2.JPG)
I've also now built the command figures.
I used the command frame components mixed and matched with various bits and pieces from the other frames and sets, to create four more unique figures...
These will be next for painting :)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_19_10_14_5_49_20_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_19_10_14_5_49_20_1.JPG)
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Great work richard, but for someone who does not care for historic accuracy, who cares what ratio you have, the main thing is to paint as many knights as you want!
Smooth conversions btw, you have done really well there, most convincing
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(singing)... That´s the way, aha, aha, i like it...
Keep the green stuff coming Richard.
Superb painting.
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You are a painting and modelling machine, and a top notch one at that.
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pull your finger out mate ;)
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They keep getting better and better. THE CID.
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Very nice, sir.
Very nice, indeed.
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Is that liquid greenstuff that you are dabbling with?
I am yet to try that....
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Wow you certainly are the master of conversion work! Love it!
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Luverly jubberly ;D
cheers
James
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Thanks lads :)
Is that liquid greenstuff that you are dabbling with?
I am yet to try that....
Yep. It's just thick green paint really. Don't think it actually shares any properties with Green Stuff proper, but it helps to conceal any slight gaps at the joins.
:)
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I have been revisiting all your WoTR threads recently as I slowly immerse myself in the period. Having just built a couple of men at arms, I am staggered by how small they are and that makes your work even more incredible!! Keep 'em coming... :D
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:o :o :o :o more awesome work Richard :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Brilliant! :-*
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:-* :-*
Will you paint my WotR figures ;D ?
I'm seriously thinking about offloading 250 or so metal Front Rank WotR figures after seering your threads!
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The Murrey & Blues are a fabulous unit :-* :-* :-*
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Awesome knights! Can't wait to get mine, I hope to get them to look as good as yours.
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Yep. It's just thick green paint really. Don't think it actually shares any properties with Green Stuff proper, but it helps to conceal any slight gaps at the joins.
:)
And there I was drooling at the luverly putty work. ;D Ah well, they look great anyway.
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I'm disappointed, I was expecting to see some putty on those armatures by now. ;)
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Yep. It's just thick green paint really. Don't think it actually shares any properties with Green Stuff proper, but it helps to conceal any slight gaps at the joins.
:)
Hmmmm....I wonder if it would stand up to vulcanisation..... ???
Steve: Have you ever tried it?
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Indeed stunning paintwork Richard !
Best regards Michael
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I'm disappointed, I was expecting to see some putty on those armatures by now. ;)
Hmmm. I took a look, and those armatures aren't very good... Think what I really need are some properly proportioned wire armatures...
::)
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Hmmm. I took a look, and those armatures aren't very good... Think what I really need are some properly proportioned wire armatures...
::)
Best get yourself a paperclip then ;) lol
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Jolly Nice!
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Best get yourself a paperclip then ;) lol
Fuse wire is the way to go. ;)
Nice painting as per usual Cap'n. :D
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Best get yourself a paperclip then ;) lol
You may laugh, sir, but that is what I use.
It is a fine material, readily available from most desks in museums.
:D
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Absolutely gorgeous work Richard. I love the "Sunne" chest badge. Can't wait to see the next 4 painted up.
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Thanks Gary and fellows.
Painting on the next four is underway, and I have 8 more figures in mind to build... ::)
Then I suppose I'll have to do some blasted longbowmen for this faction too.
When will it ever end... ;)
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When will it ever end... ;)
Hopefully never. lol lol
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I'm going to throw my brushes and paints away now. Those are fantastic figures.
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Outstanding work Captain! :-* :-*
Christopher
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All I can say is that I hope the Perry's are cutting you in on the action, whenever I see your work I want to buy a ton of their stuff and try and imitate your work! :D Just stunning Mate!
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lol lol
Thanks. They have given me a couple of free boxes before - these ones I bought though! ;)
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wow, amazing work, an inspiration for buying perry foot knights :)
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Thanks Skip :)
As I have started a new faction (York!) I thought I'd need some billmen types to go with the foot knights.
I figure the Royal house would have better armed and equipped soldiers than the average. So I've hybridised components from the new Foot Knights box along with components from the various other boxes, to produce some tough-looking professional soldiers and thoroughly disreputable characters, to accompany their Lords and masters...
Think I've certainly succeeded with these first two. A right pair of villains... :)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_25_10_14_11_30_56_1.JPG)
The figure on the left is a complete concoction of many parts stitched together. Literally, bit by bit, as far as the hand, arms and weapons are concerned.
The figure on the right uses the new standing foot knight body in livery coat. The arms are concocted from the Mercenaries and WOTR sets. The head is from the Sudanese Ansar box. I started to give him green stuff hair, but decided he looks like a tougher nut as a skinhead. Again, he reminds me of one of those forensic recreations of the faces of long-dead soldiers exhumed from the Towton grave pits...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_25_10_14_11_30_56_0.JPG)
These next two figures have helmets from the new set, although I've had to add a bit of green stuff to the helmet rim of the figure on the left. One of the things I notice in the Foot Knights box, is that one or two of the heads look a little undersized compared to most of the other heads in the range as a whole...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_25_10_14_11_32_31.JPG)
...whereas these next two figures have old, trusty heads from the original WOTR box. The left hand figure uses the bog-standard half-armoured infantry body but with one of the new pairs of arms from the Foot Knights set attached. The figure on the right, has a pair of bill arms attached to the crouching/lunging foot knight body in livery coat...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_25_10_14_11_30_56_2.JPG)
And finally...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_25_10_14_11_30_56_4.JPG)
The figure on the right is actually a straight build from the WOTR box.
The figure on the left is another hybrid - swinging long-poleaxe arms from the Foot Knights set, attached to one of the original infantry bodies. I've cut the leading foot and bent the rearmost leg back a little so it looks like he's stepping onto a green stuff rock in order to strike down with the killing blow...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_25_10_14_11_30_56_3.JPG)
Now I suppose I'd better build some more bloody longbowmen as well... ::)
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Tis a delight to behold :-*
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I should really stop clicking into this thread. Every time i do i find myself clicking over to the Perrys shop with the almost uncontrolable urge to buy one of each of their medieval sets.
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I just need to buy more boxes. Where do you keep getting the inspiration from?
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Bloody lovely Richard, cannot wait to see these coloured in :-*
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Bloody lovely combinations there, sir.
Those first two wrong 'uns are my favourites, both of 'em look like they would sell their grannies for a pint of ale.
8) 8)
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Very effective builds.
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They look fantastic. I agree on the baldy, he's a tough looking bastard.
It's really quite amazing that the Perrys could obtain such lifelike poses from a modular kit (even before your stunning modifications).
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Thanks chaps.
I just need to buy more boxes. Where do you keep getting the inspiration from?
I sit there and stare at the components for quite a long time Johan ;)
It's really quite amazing that the Perrys could obtain such lifelike poses from a modular kit
Totally agree with you Matt.
I think this is what sets them apart from the horde of plastic also-rans.
It's not about being a fan-boy. It's about incredibly well realised anatomy, posture, detail and versatility.
They are just way better than any other historical plastics out there.
When you look at what you can achieve with these compared to what you can achieve with any of the other plastics currently on the market... Well, there is simply no comparison.
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You are so right Richard!!
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Well, don't hang around. Get them coloured in ;D
cheers
James
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Richard, what I learned about you is:
1. You need more beer, because you have problem with sleeping (sitting at a table and starring at plastic!)
2. After your last miniatures you became the only god of plastic modelling.
One Question:
Do the Perrys know, that you make their models better?
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Great stuff hardly does them justice does it!
I'm really lookng forward to seeing Baldy Bill painted
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Great as always!! Your thread is always an inspiration! And I don't know if I should be sad I don't have much money to spend, or I should be glad about it, because after seeing your last minis, I'd get another one of each infantry boxes just to play around with the components! Keep them coming, this is one of my favourite threads ever.
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Another set of really nice looking miniatures.
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Well done Richard. :-* :-*
Do please get some time and sculp something complete.
I think its time to do it. ;)
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hurry up and paint 'em lol
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Yes, get on with it! :P
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Happily I'm now on hols in the Canary Islands, so no painting for me for a while... ::)
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Exellent and inspirational builds Richard !
have a very nice tripp to the Canary Islands :)
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Lovely figures Richard and (once again) you've created some winning combinations of the boxes - great poses.
But whats this...you've gone away without sneeking some paints and figures in your luggage...tut tut, isn't it what are made holidays for??
Cheers, Simon.
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I don't think I would trust these fantastic builds in my luggage either! Definitely looking forward to seeing them painted. Have fun on holiday.
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happy holidays!
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Thanks. So far, so good :)
But whats this...you've gone away without sneeking some paints and figures in your luggage...tut tut, isn't it what are made holidays for??
Ah, Simon, I fear my wife would not be understanding... ;) lol
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Happily I'm now on hols in the Canary Islands, so no painting for me for a while... ::)
How terrible.
You have my sympathies, sir..... ::)
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Thanks. So far, so good :)
Ah, Simon, I fear my wife would not be understanding... ;) lol
Maybe you can tell her, that you will go with the dog dave and paint clandestine?
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Full of character! Cant wait to see them painted lol
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Bit of a delay, sorry about that. Finally managed to get a few more done. These are concocted from the command frame...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_24_11_14_5_31_29_4.JPG)
These are the Foot Knights command frame bodies, but with arms and heads from elsewhere (except for the head with the gold trimmed helmet, also from the command frame)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_24_11_14_5_29_41_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_24_11_14_5_29_41_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_24_11_14_5_31_29_0.JPG)
And these are the command frame arms mounted on bodies and heads from other frames and sets...
Thanks for the advice on the paper flag. Lazy, but turned out okay I think.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_24_11_14_5_31_29_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_24_11_14_5_31_29_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_24_11_14_5_31_29_3.JPG)
And here are a couple of fellows that would sell their own grannies...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_24_11_14_5_29_40_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_24_11_14_5_29_40_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_24_11_14_5_29_41_2.JPG)
My Yorkist company so far...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_24_11_14_5_32_00.JPG)
:)
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Lovely stuff Richard, inspirational as always :-*
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Nice new miniatures. :)
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:o
Spectacular bunch those Yorkists of yours. So now with this good start, only 200 or so left to do for good skirmish game? :)
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Top hole old bean :D
cheers
James
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Scrumptious and perhaps the best so far :-*
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Scrumptious and perhaps the best so far :-*
Toptastic :D
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Great looking group there. Very inspirational
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Outstanding work Richard.
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:-* :-* :-*
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very impressive, think this has inspired me to buy a box of foot knights
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Those are inspiring as usual! Love the colors
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Excellent work 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Magnificent painting, Richard!
Those badges came out wonderfully and are the icing on the cake!
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Absolutely splendid painting and inspiring stuff (again) Richard!
Simon.
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Your holiday in the sun was good for your painting abilities! Fantastic! Please (even if you do not like painting) more!
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Superb stuff Richard :-* 8) :-* 8)
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:-* :-* :-*
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Gorgeous colours, sir, and great work on the flag.
:-* :-*
I am sure I recognise one of those 'granny-sellers' from somewhere, though... ::)
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Brilliant
Baldy Bill is ace
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WOW!! Your best yet me thinks. :-* :-* :-*
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Stunning Silver armour Richard. :-*
Cheers
Matt.
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very very nice indeed
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Absolutely magnificent. You have captured Blue and Murrey very well. Love the flagbearer and the livery badges.
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Absolutely fantastic!! I love them!
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Excellent - wish my hands were steady enough to paint livery badges like that.
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Thanks gents - I really appreciate the positive feedback. Keeps me going! :)
Magnificent painting, Richard!
Those badges came out wonderfully and are the icing on the cake!
Thanks Ray.
Truthfully, I think they look more like sunflowers rather than 'sunnes-in-splendor' - the centre of the sun is supposed to be a white rose motif: but when I tried it, it looked crap. Also, the livery badge is not very much bigger than a pinhead, so quite tricky to get that much detail in, so it has to be representational rather than totally accurate. Obviously on the tabletop, to the naked eye, it just looks like a yellow smudge anyway, so I probably shouldn't worry about it... ::)
I am sure I recognise one of those 'granny-sellers' from somewhere, though... ::)
lol - a passing resemblance to a certain lead baron of our acquaintance, perchance? ;)
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Stunning - a painting masterclass
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Lovely work as always, do you have any more retinues planed or will you be shifting into another period soon?
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Thanks Giles and Oliver :)
No, I think the Yorkists will be my final WOTR retinue... Just had to find a way to make use of the Foot Knights box, and the 'light cavalry' box will go the same way when they arrive.
In future I may add a few figures here and there to the various retinues I now hold.
I may also hybridise some of the new Agincourt to orleans plastics with the WOTR-era boxes, to make some early period WOTR figures. Let's face it, it's not a huge leap from Orleans to First St.Albans... 25 years... A lot of the dress and equipment would still be in use I reckon... :)
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You got loads of GoT to do yet as well :D
cheers
James
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lol - a passing resemblance to a certain lead baron of our acquaintance, perchance? ;)
Sigh ::)
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Okay, so here are the first few mash-ups using parts from the new Agincourt to Orleans plastic set.
Truthfully, I’m not about to start another period. My main interest in this set is in using the parts to
1. Hybridise with the later C15th sets to create new and different figures for my Wars of The Roses armies and
2. Use the actual HYW bodies to hybridise with other plastic sets of all denominations, to create more figures for my fledgling Game of Thrones collection.
First up, a couple of longbowmen.
These use new bow arms from the new HYW set on WOTR bodies. The fact that all 6 bodies (and so all the arms) on the HYW archer frame are wearing long padded gambeson s, means an exponential increase in options for the three ‘standard’ bodies wearing padded jacks included in both the original WOTR infantry and the Mercenaries set. Very useful indeed. The new arms all seem to fit very well on the various later medieval bodies. One of these new longbowmen is wearing a helmet from the recent WOTR Foot Knight boxes. The other is the new bareheaded head from the HYW set. The other great thing about the new set is the wide and interesting variety of sheaves of arrows included on the frame. Adding a lot more choices to those included in the original WOTR bow and bills box…
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_08_12_14_7_05_55_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_08_12_14_7_05_55_1.JPG)
Next, a couple of men-at-arms.
These use arms from the new HYW set (wielding a long warhammer and an impressive two-handed axe respectively) mounted on fully-armoured bodies from the recent WOTR Foot Knights set.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_08_12_14_7_05_55_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_08_12_14_7_05_55_3.JPG)
Some purists may balk at mixing armour styls like this – the relatively rudimentary circular besagews at the shoulder joint, paired with more sophisticated styles of later C15th white harness. But frankly, as long as it looks good, I don’t give a monkeys. To any but a real armour-nut, it just looks like any old plate armour. Especially in actual size on the tabletop. I defy anyone to notice. And these polearms are both extremely nice pieces (although the warhammer is extremely tricky to get off the frame without snapping the slender shaft).
As these guys are notionally in somewhat older suits of mixed plate, I gave them older style helmets, including the hefty great bascinet from the Mounted Men-at-Arms box.
Note how elegant and detailed the scabbarded swords are in the new set (on the fellow with the axe). Much more finely done.
And finally - in reverse of the above - a WOTR Foot Knight, two-handed-sword-wielding pair of arms mounted on one of the HYW knights’ bodies.
This figure will be going to join my Lannister forces for GoT, hence the added and unhistorical Fireforge heater shield and cloak.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_08_12_14_7_05_55_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_08_12_14_7_06_29.JPG)
The last figure here is another of the standard bodies in quilted jack - this time with the sword arm, sheld arm and a buckler added from the HYW archers frame.
The various non-longbow arms included on this frame are going to be extremely useful, and are very nicely done. With sword, with hand axe, two different left shield / buckler arms, a pair of arms swinging a sledgehammer, and a trumpeter arm.
The head is from the Foot Knights box.
Interesting to note how much taller the HYW knight is, compared to the original ‘bow and bills’ body.
My next few builds will probably be to use the new HYW longbowmen bodies with assorted heads, arms and equipment from Perry, Fireforge and Gripping Beast plastic sets, to start building my Stark forces for Game of Thrones.
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Really like the GoT figures (the others are good of course) 8)
I think I might have to get a box or so of the archers for GoT myself.
cheers
James
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Very nice.
I have no trouble with the mix of armour. It looks great.
My only note is you should really move the buckler to the guys hand. A buckler is not worn on the arm like a shield it is center gripped.
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My only note is you should really move the buckler to the guys hand. A buckler is not worn on the arm like a shield it is center gripped.
Yes, thanks Dr Z. I know that :)
It's mainly used to punch - an offensive weapon rather than an out-and-out defensive shield.
But as with the mixed armour, whilst it may not be right, I just like the effect it gives, as if strapped onto the forearm.
I'm really not a purist when it comes to historical accuracy, I'm afraid ;)
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They are good, the mixture of the arms is spot on and would have been seen, the only one I don't like is the one with a shield, but if you like him that's the main thing, what's more I'm sure you could think of a plausible reason for him to have it. :)
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Whoops did not read he was for Anniston, but everything else is vey plausible even though you don't care about exact historicity
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I like the coloured versions better. Makes the knees stand out. ;)
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I like the coloured versions better. Makes the knees stand out. ;)
lol
He's got you there :D
cheers
James
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Favourite has to be the archer nocking his arrow. Great expression on his face. ;D
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Well done Richard. :-* :-*
The mix of plastics its very good and even if for some the historical reality isnt plausible, i think they look great and indeed there was a mix of old and new armour in all periods and for a certain time. >:D ;D
Like the romans, the WOTR knights wouldnt have all the latest faction in armour available. :D
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I like the coloured versions better. Makes the knees stand out. ;)
There is colour, mate.
He has started to paint the green on two of them.
:D
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Very natural-looking, effective builds.
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like them a lot !
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There is colour, mate.
He has started to paint the green on two of them.
:D
I think Richard changes his style to this new Fashion called Black and white. I think it is great work and surely a lot of fans will follow this new thing ;)
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I think Richard changes his style to this new Fashion called Black and white. I think it is great work and surely a lot of fans will follow this new thing ;)
I am more flabbergasted that he has managed to paint the mounts of these men-at-arms invisible! :D ;)
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They look great. I see what you mean about the new figures being slightly larger than the WotR figures though... that last knight does tower over the other one. It should create a bit of variation in the unit though
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Love the WotR conversions Richard - despite any historical 'mismatches' they look great and add even more variety!
Inspiring combos, once again....
Simon.
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Exellent builds Richard !
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Thank you gentlemen :)
Once my current pre-Christmas 'real life' rush of things to do is over, I hope to get some more painting time in the New Year.
I'm itching to get paint on these!
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Lovely work Richard - I particularly like the 'fighting' poses 8)
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More worthy additions to the never-ending thread :)
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Thank you boys :)
Arthur, it will end, when the Perry bros. stop producing plastic sets for the period! ;)
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More inspiration - as if I actually need any more WOTR figures.
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Arthur, it will end, when the Perry bros. stop producing plastic sets for the period! ;)
Considering we have at the very least the late C15th light cavalry and Agincourt French army sets to look forward to from Perry towers, I'd say this thread will probably have enough legs to reach the 200 pages mark.
Not that I'm complaining, mind you... :D
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My only note is you should really move the buckler to the guys hand. A buckler is not worn on the arm like a shield it is center gripped.
A small Targe looks nearly identical at 28mm. So I think it works okay :)
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Thanks all.
Anyone interested in a few more conversions of figures from the new Perry HYW set, please check out my Westeros thread: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=62778.270
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/19/577_14_12_14_1_43_48_0.JPG)
;)
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Absolutely fantastic conversion. Gonna pass this thread to a friend of mine that's very interested in GoT minis. We played a game based on the LoTR rules, but my Dragonstone troops were just my War of the Roses ones with another name!
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Great work as usual on those Agincourt archers and MAA.
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Finally found some time to paint some of the builds shown above...
To remind you, these three are hybrids of parts from the WOTR sets and the new Agincourt to Orleans set...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_16_01_15_3_27_06_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_16_01_15_3_27_06_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_16_01_15_3_27_06_4.JPG)
These three use parts from the recent Foot Knights box mashed up with the earlier sets...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_16_01_15_3_27_06_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_16_01_15_3_27_06_1.JPG)
These three are pretty much simple billmen builds from the original WOTR box, apart from a couple of parts...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_16_01_15_3_30_28_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_16_01_15_3_30_28_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_16_01_15_3_41_41.JPG)
Here's the lastest batch altogether... I think they look like they mean business...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_16_01_15_3_30_33_3.JPG)
Here's my Yorkist contingent so far... 23 tough-nuts and counting...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_16_01_15_3_30_33_4.JPG)
And here's a close-up I've applied an artistic filter to...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_16_01_15_3_31_44.JPG)
More to come soon...
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:o They look like they are read for a good punch up.
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Wicked kewl. :D
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They look great individually but that group shot is the nuts.
:-* 8) :-*
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Appearing on the field of battle soon? 8)
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Stunning. I love the expression on the bare-headed archer's face.
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Nice troope Richard!! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Great stuff, especially the expressions. They look like a right tough bunch!
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Okay, so here are the first few mash-ups using parts from the new Agincourt to Orleans plastic set.
Truthfully, I’m not about to start another period. My main interest in this set is in using the parts to
1. Hybridise with the later C15th sets to create new and different figures for my Wars of The Roses armies and
2. Use the actual HYW bodies to hybridise with other plastic sets of all denominations, to create more figures for my fledgling Game of Thrones collection.
First up, a couple of longbowmen.
An inspired choice to do this with the archers- good stuff on the slightly earlier men-at-arms choices too!
:-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Darrell.
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Excellent job on those sir!
I was a bit dubious about whether the early and late sets would mix, but it works for me. As for size, we don't all come to scale. ;)
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I was a bit dubious about whether the early and late sets would mixscale. ;)
To be honest, I was too. I'm going to have a play around and see if all the arms are interchangeable (the HYW arms that is not the arms from the WoR/Cousins War.
Darrell.
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I can assure you the arms are all interchangeable (subject to a minimal amount of shaving and filling here and there. For the most part, not even that... ) :)
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You never cease to inspire, a good looking host too, do you still have the Yorkist bug ?
On a boring side note; how do you update the post title?
All the best
Stuart
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Great work as always. :o :o
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Thanks Gary.
You never cease to inspire, a good looking host too, do you still have the Yorkist bug ?
On a boring side note; how do you update the post title?
I really only had the Yorkist bug in order to make use of the new Foot Knights set, and then, later, the new Agincourt to Orleans set - although most of the latter will go into my Game of Thrones project...
Having now built 25 Yorkists, only two of whom are longbowmen, I guess I now need to make a load more archers. And then some mounted men at arms to bring the contingent up to strength... Then the Perrys will bring out another box - and so it goes on... ::) ;)
To update the title of your thread, you need to go back to the first post in the thread and reopen it to 'modify' - you can then change the title of the thread. But note, it only changes the thread title - it doesn't change the title shown in all the posts all the way through, which can be slightly confusing - you'd have to go in and modify all those manually too to change them...
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Thanks buddy, you're a gent.
I really want a plastic artillery set, just saying. Is it too much to ask?
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No, you're right. It's not too much to ask. They've done it for ACW - they should do it for us 8)
(It can only be a matter of time... )
;)
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Stunning work Richard :-* :-*
And I do believe that some of those figures have the Tully colours ;)
cheers
James
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Absolutely gorgeous :-*
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I lubs, lubs, lubs me some Cpt Blood artistry!
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No, you're right. It's not too much to ask. They've done it for ACW - they should do it for us 8)
(It can only be a matter of time... )
;)
I suspect it will be forthcoming.
I'd personally like them to give some thought to some more metal heads (most cost effective for them) and some plastic baggage items... there would be no excuse not to use them in more games then. The metal ones are excellent, but a hefty price, I doubt anyone will be recreating Blore Heath's wagon laager anytime soon.
:)
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Cool, they look like hardened and cold-blooded veterans!
And bare-headed archer is full of hatred >:D as if he can't wait to make hole in someone))
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I don't think there were enough guns in use in the WotR and they're not the massive lead anvils of later wars. But some plastic gunner/sapper/siege engineer/civilian sprues would be really useful -- the mix-and-match nature of the parts would make it easy to get lots of variety.
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I don't think there were enough guns in use in the WotR and they're not the massive lead anvils of later wars. But some plastic gunner/sapper/siege engineer/civilian sprues would be really useful -- the mix-and-match nature of the parts would make it easy to get lots of variety.
Ii'd love to see them in production but I have my doubts too- let us hope I'm proved incorrect! Maybe they'll make some French heavy guns for my just for me and my Fornovo project ;D :).
Darrell.
Darrell.
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Great to see this thread progressing again, some lovely conversion and paintwork there, Richard, an eye candy as usual.
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As always, beautiful conversions and painting.
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They do look great. I have a box of the new Perry 100YW figures to assemble, could be just what I need to inspire me.
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Thank you all :)
Last couple of figures finished for this 'lift' before I go back into hibernation... ;)
These two are the builds shown somewhere up above, with the new HYW arms melded to WOTR Foot Knight bodies.
It doesn't offend my historical sensibilities. I think they look pretty convincing, and I like the many additional weapon choices this brings to my Men-at-arms...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_18_01_15_5_40_24_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_18_01_15_5_40_24_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_18_01_15_5_40_24_2.JPG)
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Works for me :)
A big hammer is going to hurt someone no matter which century you're in lol
cheers
James
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Likin' them Richard - and t'others - mixing up the packs as you've done really does produce some great poses.
Enjoy the hibernation 'snooze' - looking forward to you returning to WotR in the 'spring'...!!
Cheers, Simon.
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Never get tired of looking at your stuff Richard, these plastics are really tempting me.
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Oh Richard, I am a little bit dissapointed. There is a small shading fault at the left canine tooth of the first knight (picture one). lol
Honest: Great work, fantastic colours. Thanks for sharing.
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Excellent! :-*
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Fantastic Richard..... Both are brilliant but I especially like the axe man 8)
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Excellent work!
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I really like these two, great work
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Superb!!! :o :-* :-* :-* :o
And of course, very inspiring.....
Darrell.
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really nice figures ;D
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Not my preferred period but these are truly excellent.
With the quality and volume of your work are you sure you haven't been cybernetically enhanced? lol
Regards
PM
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Impressive as always. You're amassing a very nice medieval collection :-*
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Thanks :)
I hope to get these fellows straight into action at the weekend.
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I was lucky enough to be at the fabulous Tactica show in Hamburg last weekend, where the Perrys were showing their new forthcoming Wars of the Roses / European Armies lighter cavalry set.
Michael kindly offered me the chance to take away the test sprue they had on display once the show was over – which naturally, I did. Very pleased to get the chance to get my mitts on these two months ahead of their official launch at Salute :D
Obviously I couldn’t wait to get home and start building – which I have.
Painting will follow in due course...
First, a few reflections on the set:
1. It’s brilliant. Yet another exponential increase in the permutations available by intermixing all 5 late medieval sets, plus the Agincourt to Orleans set. There are lots of useful new components included here, including spare longbows and crossbows in their carrying cases, some very nice new swords, and of course, lots of new arms and heads, as well as the four new bodies which form the centre of the set.
2. There are 12 all-new late medieval heads, and although some are reminiscent of heads in earlier sets, they are all different, and include several real crackers.
To my eye, half of the heads look kinda European, and the rest quite English, so a good mix overall. Michael was reflecting that having now made 70-odd different heads for these WOTR era sets, it’s becoming quite hard to keep coming up with new versions of sallets! (But he’s done darned well).
3. The four bodies are all beautifully done as well. They all have some bits and pieces of armour, three of them wear coats, open or closed, one has a brigandine. Some have long boots turned up or down, one has short boots and hose. The reins arms are separate this time which I think is a great improvement over the mounted men-at-arms set, where they were cast onto the bodies. It gives a great deal of extra flexibility. And makes them useful for kitbashing. There are a wide range of right arms with light lances in various position, as well as bows, crossbows and open-handed 'at ease' arms.
4. The horse sprue, it should be said, is identical to the horse sprue in the MMAA set – so 6 body halves (3 left, 3 right) and four different heads. I honestly don’t see this as a problem, because I think Johan calculated there was some astronomical range of possible permutations from these 10 components. So that you never need to make the same horse twice, and that's even before you start converting…
Onto the figures:
Number one is a mercenary crossbowman. His crossbow is covered and slung on one side of his saddle, his bolts and winder on the other. He wears a soft hat and carries his sallet in his hand – a spare empty helmet, another very useful component this. He wears the brigandine body with long boots turned down. I gave him arms in half mail though, rather than the matching brigandine arms. Note the new model sword in its scabbard – one of the best so far methinks.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_26_02_15_7_43_57_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_26_02_15_7_43_57_1.JPG)
Number two is a scurrer riding down some unfortunate fugitive. This is the body with long boots to the thigh, and an open coat over a breastplate. I’ve given him brigandine arms and light lance. I love this helmet – an enclosed kettle hat with eye slits and a cloth coronet. I think he’ll do as an Englishman for my Yorkists, although he could be a mercenary.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_26_02_15_7_43_58_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_26_02_15_7_43_58_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_26_02_15_7_43_58_4.JPG)
Number three is another scurrer. This body has the short boots and a closed coat with short scalloped skirt. I’ve given him armoured arms with coat ‘shoulders’. Another brilliant helmet here – the onion shaped kettle hat with eye slits.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_26_02_15_7_46_40_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_26_02_15_7_46_41_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_26_02_15_7_46_41_1.JPG)
Well, I was a very good boy and stuck to only the components in the box for the first three... But I couldn’t quite resist for number four – a mounted longbowman...
His body is, again, in a closed coat. This time with armoured legs and turned down bucket boots. The body is leaning slightly to the right, which is why I’ve given him a pair of shooting longbow arms from the WOTR infantry set. Shooting to his left. Much debate to be had about whether you can actually shoot a longbow from horseback – personally I think it unlikely, but who cares: It makes for a nice figure.
His helmet is an open sallet from the new set – great gormless face on this one too. Also note the useful arrow bag hanging from his saddle. Open and closed versions of these are included on the frame.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_26_02_15_7_46_41_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_26_02_15_7_46_41_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_26_02_15_7_48_12_0.JPG)
And finally… I also used a few more components from the new frame to mash-up some infantry types.
Number five is a longbowman, using the shouldered bow and arrows pack from the new set, plus another new head in an open (nicely pointy) sallet. It’s a standard infantry body. His left arm is a longbow arm with longbow cut off, and a hand axe from the Agincourt to Orleans set substituted. He’s obviously looking for a defensive stake to sharpen.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_26_02_15_7_48_12_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_26_02_15_8_35_54_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_26_02_15_7_48_12_4.JPG)
Number six is a mercenary. He’ll be joining my Milanese. This is my favourite head from the new frame – look at those feathers! Plus a new ‘crossbow held down at ease’ right arm. His left arm is another longbow arm, this time with a hand swap – he’s a mercenary, so he has his hand out for payment. It’s a standard infantry body. He’s got a pack of bolts and his winder on his left hip.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_26_02_15_8_35_54_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_26_02_15_8_35_54_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_26_02_15_8_35_54_2.JPG)
Last up, I also concocted another lighter cavalry type myself, finally using the bare ‘Richard III’ head from the Foot Knights set, with some Green Stuff long boots. I think he should fit in with the others well enough.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_26_02_15_7_48_12_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/577_26_02_15_7_48_12_2.JPG)
That’s all for now, although I have also been making up several more longbowmen, combining the various WOTR sets with the A-O set.
They will follow in a day or two…
:)
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Superb work. :-*
I'm really looking forward to these with a splash of paint on them
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Really nice figures there. I especially like the new feathered helmet. A longbowman firing from the saddle, have you not been reading the other thread?! lol I think it looks good. The Perrys must save a fortune on marketing everytime you glue something together. :D
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Excellent work, Richard. :)
I cannot wait to see them painted.
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You're a lucky devil :)
Looking forward to seeing them painted of course, I'm certain they'll be characterful.
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Lovely work as usual Richard. :D
Are the swords in scabbard attached to the sprue a tad more sensibly than in the HYW set?
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i want some of their HYW stuff for Lion Rampant which weve just started playing!!
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Are the swords in scabbard attached to the sprue a tad more sensibly than in the HYW set?
Slightly Ray.
There's a single point of attachment, down near the point of the scabbard.
Still not attached by one or other end, which would be better - but at least they don't join onto the frame halfway down the length of the scabbard as in some of the earlier sets - which makes it very hard to avoid a wobble in the edge of the finished product... :?
So, yes - a bit better.
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Very nice builds Richard - have to agree fully with all the conversion options that now arise from this excellent sprue.
I've already added some arrow bags to foot troops to extend a group of Burgundian Archers of the Guard, which will be coming along the pipeline sometime later this year for my army.
Looking forward to the colouring-in stage!
Simon.
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You didn't hang around did you?
Very characterful as always. :)
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Excellent! That last light cavalry conversion is brilliant, now sling that paint Ricardo and let's see them come to life 8)
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I really like the Perry Wotr range and the light cav look excellent, looking forward to seeing you paint these up!
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Well..... some really superb conversions is a bit of an understatement Richard!! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
I love them all but the lovely sculpting on the addition of the chap's riding boots is truly fab!
Darrell.
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Great poses as always, making the bear plastic come to life even before the paint is applied.
dodge
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Ok, it's now clear : I must buy me some of those plastic sets... :-*
You've done a very good work at converting those minis, and I especially love the light cav with spears and the mercenary crossbowman...
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Lucky you Richard that got your hands on a sprue of Light cavalry.
Greate builds indeed, especially that you used the Swedish Onion toped helmet made me very glad:)
best regards Michael
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One more page to go to 100 posts :o :o :o
That has to be a record on any forum(?) and is testament to just how much interest your work had invoked Richard 8) 8) 8)
Darrell.
Darrell.
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:'( I'm so jealous, I have to wait until Salute before I can get my hands on some of those arms with the packed away bows :'(
Absolutely stunning as always though, can't wait to see them with some paint on!
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Thanks all for the comments.
One more page to go to 100 posts :o :o :o
That has to be a record on any forum(?)
lol
Well it's not a record here Darrell. Check out the forum stats page, and you will see this thread is a mere infant compared to some ;)
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=stats
Greate builds indeed, especially that you used the Swedish Onion toped helmet made me very glad:)
I'm glad you suggested it to Michael, Michael :)
It's a great-looking helmet.
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Great stuff, Richard, bringing all these lovely sprues together to create some original models of your own.
Looking forward to seeing these coloured in.
:-* :-*
Also good to see that the Perry's know it makes good sense to give you the new kit to play with.
8)
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Thanks all for the comments.
lol
Well it's not a record here Darrell. Check out the forum stats page, and you will see this thread is a mere infant compared to some ;)
Bloody hell!!! :o :o :o
I've missed the odd thread or two then lol
Darrell.
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Hi Richard,
awesome convertions! The carrying archer with the axe is my favorite. Full of character!
Oh damn it, i was at the Tactica in Hamburg on sunday aswell. It would have been a good thing to meet you for a little conversation and saying hello :(
Cheers,
Daniel
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Oh damn it, i was at the Tactica in Hamburg on sunday aswell. It would have been a good thing to meet you for a little conversation and saying hello :(
It would.
On another occasion, I am sure :)
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Great stuff, Richard, bringing all these lovely sprues together to create some original models of your own.
Looking forward to seeing these coloured in.
:-* :-*
Also good to see that the Perry's know it makes good sense to give you the new kit to play with.
8)
They are ready - Richards new grey-and-white. Painting is overrated. Believe me. lol
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Ah, if only it were that easy Dirk ;)
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As I said on Steve Dean forum really nice figures you made there !!! Now I definitely have to get one or two of these new sets! The addiction gets worse ;D ;D
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Yep. Lovely stuff. 8) :-*
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very good Richard...I could tell you were pleased as punch when you got the sprue -
hope you get more freebies as a result of this ...
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Lovely stuff Cap, now less showboating and more painting mister!!
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Ooh - I've got to get to Salute this year to get a box of the new light horse. No getting collared for dog-sitting that weekend this year.
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Marvelous work once again Captain Blood :-*
Will there be cross-thread stuff with this thread and GoT thread of yours? :)
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Michael kindly offered me the chance to take away the test sprue they had on display once the show was over – which naturally, I did. Very pleased to get the chance to get my mitts on these two months ahead of their official launch at Salute :D
(http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130612042527/looneytunes/images/5/58/20060718_napoleon_dynamite_2.jpg)
Luckayy!
Brilliant work as always. No wonder you get the special freebies! :)
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Brilliant work as always. No wonder you get the special freebies! :)
Really, it's a first :)
(Although they did give me a free box of Desert Rats at Salute a couple of years back)
Will there be cross-thread stuff with this thread and GoT thread of yours? :)
Funny you should say that. As I am merging parts from the Agincourt to Orleans set into the WoTR sets, I am creating slightly less distinctively late C15th types, some of which may well serve for GoT as well. I'll post a few more builds tomorrow to show what I mean...
The slight difficulty there is that instead of my very distinctive WoTR livery colours, I have to start painting figures in more neutral colours so they can multitask for either WoTR or GoT. I probably won't do that with many, but I will do it with a few...
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Here are a few more longbowmen constructed by mixing components from the various WOTR sets with the Agincourt to Orleans (A-O) set.
Truthfully, I prefer the longbow arms from the A-O set to those in the original WoTR set. The bows are a litle bit longer and more, um, shapely. They just look better on the figures. The A-O set also includes several different sheaves of arrows, which are all extremely nicely done.
Most of these figures haven't been cleaned up and filled yet, so they look a bit rough round the edges at the moment...
Longbowman with trumpet – using a pair of arms from the A-O set (also one of the new bundles of arrows on his belt) on one of the standard bodies and heads from the original WoTR bows and bills set. I’ve puffed out his cheeks a bit with Green Stuff so he looks more like he’s actually blowing…
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_01_03_15_10_30_24_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_01_03_15_10_30_23_0.JPG)
Longbowman in hood, knocking. Again, A-O arms on a regular infantry body. Arrow sheaf from the A-O set, as is the head, which I’ve extended with Green Stuff to make more of a long hood. The overall effect might look a bit early for WoTR, so he may end up going towards the Game of Thrones collection. I’ll see how I feel when I paint him.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_01_03_15_10_30_24_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_01_03_15_10_30_24_3.JPG)
Longbowman loosing. Again, regular WoTR infantry body with A-O longbow arms, head, and arrow sheaf…
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_01_03_15_10_30_24_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_01_03_15_10_31_34_0.JPG)
Longbowman reaching for arrows – this one is actually a standard build from the WoTR bills and bows box, except for his head, which is from the recent Foot Knights box, and the sheaf of arrows stuck in the ground which are from the A-O set (actually quite a bit nicer than the original version included in the WoTR infantry set).
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_01_03_15_10_31_35_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_01_03_15_10_31_35_2.JPG)
Again, standard WoTR body with my favourite ‘shouting’ head in an open sallet, paired with a couple of arms from the A-O set, to portray a longbowman striding forward to finish off a downed enemy with his hand axe…
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_01_03_15_10_31_35_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_01_03_15_10_31_35_4.JPG)
Similarly, A-O arms and buckler on a standard WoTR body, with a visored sallet from the Foot Knights set.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_01_03_15_10_32_45_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_01_03_15_10_32_45_1.JPG)
Finally, tried it the other way round… A pair of longbow arms from the WoTR bows and bills set, on a body and helmeted head from the A-O set. Unfortunately, I think the long, knee-length gambeson, really is too distinctively from an earlier period to pass for WoTR (even though I’m sure there were still some around in the 1460s – 1470s). So I’ve added a fur cape of Green Stuff, and this one will almost certainly be going off to join the Starks of Winterfell…
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_01_03_15_10_32_45_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_01_03_15_10_32_45_3.JPG)
And now I have rather a lot of painting to do! :)
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Most cool Richard 8) :-* 8)
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Again, a lovelly combination of sprues/bits and green stuff. :-* :-*
Looking very good.
I must get my hands on some of those WOTR bodies for my conversions. :D
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More Perry-plastics wizardy from Captain Blood, me likes a lot ;D
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Oh those light cavalry look great. Those are now on the Salute shopping list!
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Love the character that your models have, and I can't wait to see all of these guys painted!
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Awesome combinations, Richard.
I'm really pondering whether I need the A-O box as well... ;)
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Excellent conversions..the Archer with the axe ("favourite shouting head" :) ) Looks great.
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these are really nice again
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Superb combinations, Richard. Must try some of these for my own set of figures ... ;D
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Now painted, and fresh from round one of the LPL, the first four Perry light cavalry figures, plus 'The King' :)
The King is made up from the mounted men at arms box, with the helmet with coronet from the foot knights box.
The others are built straight from the frame of the new light cavalry box (released at Salute next week), except for the firing longbowman, whose arms come from the basic WoTR infantry set...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_19_04_15_12_10_38_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_19_04_15_12_10_39_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_19_04_15_12_10_39_2.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_19_04_15_12_10_39_3.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_19_04_15_12_14_10_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_19_04_15_12_10_39_4.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_19_04_15_12_14_10_2.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_19_04_15_12_17_28_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_19_04_15_12_14_10_3.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_19_04_15_12_14_10_4.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_19_04_15_12_17_28_3.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_19_04_15_12_19_00_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_19_04_15_12_17_28_4.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_19_04_15_12_19_01_4.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_19_04_15_12_19_00_3.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_19_04_15_12_19_00_2.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_19_04_15_12_26_43.JPG)
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Top job :D
You have been a busy little bee haven't you ;)
cheers
James
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WOW!! :-* :-* :-*
It's good to be the KING!
Very beautifully done Richard.
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Just brilliant, :)
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They are all lovelies Richard!!! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Darrell.
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These are splendid, well worth the wait for the update.
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Fantastic work! :-*
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Brilliant!
One of the highlights of the first round for me.
:-* :-*
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Cracking work Richard, vibrant colours and a lovely neat style as ever.
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seriously impressive :)
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Even more excellent work Captain. :)
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One of the highlights of the first round for me.
Same here, really impressive. Nice to see the details and alt views!
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wonderful painting, they should be on display for salute!!
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Bloody hell Richard they are amazing 8) :-* 8) :-* 8) :-* 8) :-* 8) :-* 8) :-* 8) :-* 8) :-* 8) :-* 8) :-*
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Thanks lads. They were a pleasure to paint. Will be picking up a box at Salute next week, needless to say :)
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Exquisite. Seriously in awe of your work, Cap'n.
:o :o :o
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:-* Awesome! Hope you can keep this up till round 10...........maybe not ;)
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exquisite :-*
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Love'em too 8)
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These are sweet. I like in particular the painting on the horses.
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Wonderful work. A truly vibrant and effective pallet.
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Wonderful work. A truly vibrant and effective pallet.
I think that's the hallmark of Richard's work. always got a vibrancy that, believe me, can be very hard to achieve.
Darrell.
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Stunning :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Not bad Richard, not bad at all :D :-*
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IMHO, best roses set ever, and a wonderful paintjob!
Especially the guy with a scandinavian kettle-helm and the grey horse.
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Thanks all.
Must say, I do like that onion shaped kettle hat too.
(Suggested to Michael Perry by our very own Dalauppror :))
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Thanks all.
Must say, I do like that onion shaped kettle hat too.
(Suggested to Michael Perry by our very own Dalauppror :))
Here's a piece of totally unrelated Medieval trivia for you all:
Did you know that Apples were often referred to as Onions in Medieval times- I might have got that the wrong way around but it's still pretty strange!
Darrell.
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Captain Blood I would love a guide from you on your painting style. Its such a wonderful technique.
Well done mate.
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Captain Blood I would love a guide from you on your painting style. Its such a wonderful technique.
Well done mate.
Seconded!
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Richard,
I've just had a thought, will you be bringing any of these to Salute so I can have a 'in the flesh' look at them? i'd be really interested in seeing them???
Obviously if it's too much hassle don't bother matey (Salute on top of carrying stuff you don't need is a thing that one does not need!)
Darrell.
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Captain Blood I would love a guide from you on your painting style. Its such a wonderful technique.
Well done mate.
There's one on LAF somewhere, which later contributed to an article or two in WSS :)
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There's a tutorial of sorts here: http://sdean-forum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=25706.0
Will you be bringing any of these to Salute so I can have a 'in the flesh' look at them? i'd be really interested in seeing them???
Obviously if it's too much hassle don't bother matey (Salute on top of carrying stuff you don't need is a thing that one does not need!)
Quite so :)
Not planning to bring any painted figures to the Salute with me. I need all the room in my bag for new purchases.
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There's a tutorial of sorts here: http://sdean-forum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=25706.0
Quite so :)
Not planning to bring any painted figures to the Salute with me. I need all the room in my bag for new purchases.
Thought as much. I'll hopefully see your work up close one day :)
Darrell.
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Gorgeous ... just gorgeous.
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Indeed stunning work Richard !!! :-*
Glad you used the onion kettle helmet :)
I hope to see you at Salute on saturday.
Best regards Michael
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Wonderful beyond comparison, Richard! :-*
What colours did you use for the golden embroidery on Richard's coat of arms?
Cheers
Stefan
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Thank you Stefan :)
The base colour for the yellow heraldic devices is Inscribe / Palmer Prism 'caramel' (It's a craft paint, sadly now discontinued)
The highlight is made mixing 50% Vallejo Flat Yellow with the caramel.
And the final highlight by adding a touch of white into the mix.
Richard
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stunning what a paint job, love those collours
and yes flemish always wear their granddad's helmet/hat :-)
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and yes flemish always wear their granddad's helmet/hat :-)
lol good to know. Thanks.
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Question is, did you get some more figures yesterday :D
cheers
James
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Oh yes.
Another box of light cavalry added to the plastic pile.
I need to build my Yorkist horse contingent :D
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I'll probably pick up a box of the light horse at Partizan.
It'll give me a chance to see what you do with yours first Richard. :)
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Looking forward to more of your builds!
It was really nice to see you at salute Richard! Sorry i couldent chat more, it was quite bussie to run a participation game, I hope you liked the look of it.
Best regards Michael
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No problem Michael. I could see you were busy :)
Here are some more pictures from my round 5 team in the Lead Painters League...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_19_05_15_8_57_56_0.JPG)
The Lord and his faithful hound... (he will be joining the ranks of my mounted Yorkist force)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_19_05_15_8_34_18_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_19_05_15_8_34_18_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_19_05_15_8_34_18_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_19_05_15_8_34_18_2.JPG)
A pair of longbowmen/huntsmen. Again, these will double into my Yorkist longbow ranks...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_19_05_15_8_34_18_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_19_05_15_8_56_06_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_19_05_15_8_56_06_1.JPG)
Huntsmen... The whipper-in is a metal figure from one of the wagon sets... The spearman is an Agincourt plastic body with a pair of WoTR infantry arms and an ACW zouave cap (Hey - one small soft cap is much like another across the course of a few hundred years... ;))
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_19_05_15_8_56_06_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_19_05_15_8_56_07_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_19_05_15_8_56_07_4.JPG)
And lastly, the pooches...
The little greyhound types are from a set of four commissioned by Painterman for his own collection (and no, he doesn't have any left, and I count myself lucky to have bagged a spare set - thank you Simon - lovely little models). The big bow-wows are mastiff types painted in Rottweiler camo, from one of the ex-Vendel sets (now owned by Sergeant-Major Miniatures in the USA I believe)...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_19_05_15_8_57_57_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_19_05_15_8_57_56_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_19_05_15_8_57_56_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_19_05_15_8_57_56_1.JPG)
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Beautiful! :-* :-*
Love those pooches.
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All lovely models Richard - and you've done my hounds proud too!!
Simon.
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Beautiful work... wonderful dogs.
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Those dogs are, well, the dog's you know whats. Wonderful paintjobs.
The smoothness of your painted finish eludes me!
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Beautiful!
:-*
And well jealous on the pooch front, they are lovely sculpts.
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Woof!
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How have I missed this beautiful thread? Can't wait to see more but wow, are those great! Will those dogs be used in wargaming, vignettes or just looking at? :)
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Thanks :)
The dogs will definitely appear on the wargames table, even if only in a decorative capacity!
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They are the dog's :-*
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They are the dog's :-*
Agreed! 8)
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Those dogs are just superb! :o Thanks for treating us with pics outside the LPL as well.
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Woof, Wof, woooft!! :-* :-*
" In dogs talk it means very good painting !. ;)
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Brilliant stuff as always...
Love the dogs... :-* :-*
Cheers,
Don
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I've got some of those mastiff types to do in the near future so the photo is saved for future reference, cheers Richard top notch work as always. :-*
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Very nice work Richard! :-* :-* :-*
Darrell.
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The whole hunting party is fantastic, dogs, horse and hunters!
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Thanks lads :)
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very very nice indeed :-* :-* :-*
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This is excellent. A brilliant thread. May well have to grab a box of Perry's at some point
Thanks
Blofeld
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Stunning paint work Richard !
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Thanks :)
Last update for a while - until I get round to making up some more Yorkist mounted knights and lighter horsemen.
(I need another half dozen to round out my Yorkist contingent).
Meanwhile, a few close-ups of my last LPL entry.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_25_05_15_10_14_48_0.jpg)
The figures at the front of the picture are newly made and painted, using components from several of the Perry medieval sets including foot knights, light cavalry, and the Agincourt to Orleans English Army set, as well as the regular WoTR infantry set.
The figures in the background all appeared earlier in this thread.
The backdrop is comprised of a pair of Grand Manner's excellent half-timbered late medieval houses, sculpted by Tony Harwood, AKA Dampfpanzerwagon.
The flag is a cloth printed flag by Pete's Flags (with a tiny bit of overpainting here and there :))
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_25_05_15_10_14_48_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_25_05_15_10_14_49_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_25_05_15_10_14_49_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_25_05_15_10_14_49_4.JPG)
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Top work Richard :-* :-* :-*
The flag fits well with your style :)
cheers
James
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Thanks James.
I have to say, you get a sheet of five different flags / banners, and they are very good. Intense colour. Great designs. And way better than paper or card.
It's not a very extensive range, but it's growing all the time. Highly recommended.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/petes_flags/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
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Wonderful colour selections and brushwork.
:-* :-* :-*
The flag fits well with your style :)
It certainly does.
I will have to check those out now....
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Wow - incredible work :o
I love this thread.
Are the chest badges transfers as they all lok identical.
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Thanks Mick. No, they're hand painted.
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Thanks Mick. No, they're hand painted.
Fabulous :-*
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Outstanding and positively vibrant!
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Are the chest badges transfers as they all look identical?
Thanks Mick. No, they're hand painted.
That is even better :-*
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Great stuff captain! An amazing work again!
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More outstanding work, Captain Blood. :)
You are the best I've evers seen.
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Well done Richard. :-* :-*
Great choice of colours.
Your army is looking very good. :)
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That's some fine painting. How long do you need on each miniature ?
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Difficult to say, because I always paint in batches of 5 - 10 figures at a time, and spread out across several painting sessions, usually over the course of a week or two weeks, fitting the painting in when I can.
But I suppose if the figure was ready prepped, it would take around 1 - 2 hours to complete a figure from start to finish, depending a lot on how much detail was on that figure.
Put it this way... typically I paint only around 120 - 150 figures a year, so I'm certainly not prolific.
(I know some wargamers who paint 150 figures inside a couple of days... :))
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Your Yorkist archer contingent is simply phenomenal.
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Now they are lovely!
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Top notch painting, the attention to detail is fantastic.
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Thanks chaps :)
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Richard, these last pictures are great. Not so shiny and look more like having your figures in your real hands. New camera???
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Beautiful stuff Richard as usual :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Just for the record, the bags pf arrows and the cover for the bows were made out of (oiled) canvas and not leather :).
Just mentioning it as it looks like the archer who is carrying his arrows and his bow in a more leathery colour. Of course, this does not detract from the painting!!
Darrell.
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HOLY SHH.... :o :o :o :o
Even by the standard already set in this thread, those are incredible! An absolute joy to behold.
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This is one of the most inspiring historical threads I have ever seen. Thanks for sharing that.
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Really outstanding painting Captain! Your choice of colour is great as always.
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Beautiful!!! :-* :-* :-* Some of the nicest painting I've seen. Love the bases too. The scenery is also first rate, are the trees Woodland Scenics?
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Lovely work, Richard :-*
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Lovely brushwork Richard on your latest archers.
All the best,
Helen
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Thanks all.
This is one of the most inspiring historical threads I have ever seen. Thanks for sharing that.
Very nice of you to say so - thank you :)
Richard, these last pictures are great. Not so shiny and look more like having your figures in your real hands. New camera???
Yes, I have been using a new camera, Dirk. But I think it might be more to do with the lighting and exposure.
Will be a while now before more gets added to this thread. Has to take a bit of a back seat for a while I'm afraid. But there will be more in due course! o_o
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I've just made an account here just so I can comment on this thread.
I've recently decided to move back into wargaming after giving it up a long time ago, and have decided to go for a 15th century collection which I can use for either historical and Game Of Thrones purposes. I've been aware of Perry Miniatures for a while, but have just discovered the full range of plastic medieval kits they now do, and after looking through every page of this thread, I am convinced that they will be all I need!
I'm planning to get one of each six kits - all five war of the roses ones, and the agincourt kit too, and mix them all together. Your conversions suggest that this is going to be fun...
I'm also delighted by the price. £20 each? So one of each kits will get me a small army for £120! Add a few more, and that's a solid army for £200! Coming from someone used to Games Workshop prices back in the day, and having seen the ridiculous heights they have reached in recent years, this seems incredible!
So to Captain Blood, thank you very much, and the Perrys should be very grateful to you as well, you are doing some excellent advertising for them!
Also, a question - Will the Agincourt kit mix in well with the War of the Roses ones? I'm not going for complete historical accuracy here, and mixing the Agincourt heads throughout the whole army should work for poorer knights with out of date armour I'm thinking. They are the same scale, I take it?
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Fantastic work!!! :-*
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Fantastic work!!! :-*
Thanks Rafa.
I've just made an account here just so I can comment on this thread.
I've recently decided to move back into wargaming after giving it up a long time ago, and have decided to go for a 15th century collection which I can use for either historical and Game Of Thrones purposes. I've been aware of Perry Miniatures for a while, but have just discovered the full range of plastic medieval kits they now do, and after looking through every page of this thread, I am convinced that they will be all I need!
I'm planning to get one of each six kits - all five war of the roses ones, and the agincourt kit too, and mix them all together. Your conversions suggest that this is going to be fun...
I'm also delighted by the price. £20 each? So one of each kits will get me a small army for £120! Add a few more, and that's a solid army for £200! Coming from someone used to Games Workshop prices back in the day, and having seen the ridiculous heights they have reached in recent years, this seems incredible!
So to Captain Blood, thank you very much, and the Perrys should be very grateful to you as well, you are doing some excellent advertising for them!
Also, a question - Will the Agincourt kit mix in well with the War of the Roses ones? I'm not going for complete historical accuracy here, and mixing the Agincourt heads throughout the whole army should work for poorer knights with out of date armour I'm thinking. They are the same scale, I take it?
Well, thank you very much for that. Very kind :)
And welcome to Lead Adventure.
Yes, parts from the Perry WoTR and Agincourt-Orleans figures can be intermixed well. You should be able to see a few amongst the later conversions in this thread. The Agincourt figures are a whisker taller and the head to neck joint is slightly different, but nothing that can't be fixed with a sharp knife and a tiny bit of filling with liquid poly cement and a few tiny shavings of plastic sprue. (Although note that the A-O foot knights heads are moulded on, so would need cutting off).
If you haven't already, you might also find something useful in my Game of Thrones thread... http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=62778.0
There are lots of other very nice Game of Thrones build threads knocking about in both the Fantasy and Medieval Adventure boards, by the way. Worth hunting down for inspiration... :)
My favourite is HVM's Mormont thread... http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=41342.0
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Yes, parts from the Perry WoTR and Agincourt-Orleans figures can be intermixed well. You should be able to see a few amongst the later conversions in this thread. The Agincourt figures are a whisker taller and the head to neck joint is slightly different, but nothing that can't be fixed with a sharp knife and a tiny bit of filling with liquid poly cement and a few tiny shavings of plastic sprue. (Although note that the A-O foot knights heads are moulded on, so would need cutting off).
If you haven't already, you might also find something useful in my Game of Thrones thread... http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=62778.0
There are lots of other very nice Game of Thrones build threads knocking about in both the Fantasy and Medieval Adventure boards, by the way. Worth hunting down for inspiration... :)
My favourite is HVM's Mormont thread... http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=41342.0
Ahh yes, I hadn't realised the Agincourt heads are attached to the bodies. I doubt I'll need to do many headswaps though, as the helmets are the most notably different part of the armour, wouldn't you agree? The bodies and legs are rather similar (remember, I'm not going for total historical accuracy and detail!)
I have seen your GoT thread and enjoyed it, but not as much as this one to be honest! I will be focusing on raising massed troops rather than individual characters at first. I'm thinking I'd like my troops not to be obviously aligned to any house or faction, using mostly neutral colours with little heraldry, so that I'll be able to mark their alligiences out with colourful character models complete with heraldry and banners when needed. And I probably won't be going for the obvious Stark and Lannister factions, but perhaps smaller houses from the Riverlands and The Reach. Though one idea I've just had, for smaller skirmish games with more individual models, would be The Mountain's Men vs the Brotherhood Without Banners. Lots of great potential for characterful models there...
Looking though that Mormont thread right now, great stuff!
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Though one idea I've just had, for smaller skirmish games with more individual models, would be The Mountain's Men vs the Brotherhood Without Banners. Lots of great potential for characterful models there...
Now that's a great idea 8)
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Well, three years on from my first Perry Mounted Men At Arms, and I’m back where I started - building some new Perry Mounted Men-At-Arms! ::)
Partly this is because my painting mojo has gone AWOL over the past few weeks. And since I enjoy the creative process of unique plastic figure building, I’m very happily kit-bashing lots of new plastic figures, which I will paint once I rediscover my painting groove.
Since I’ve latterly added a whole new Yorkist faction to my WOTR collection (see pages 87 onwards, above), I now need to equip this contingent with a hefty cavalry arm.
Also, since I built my first mounted host from the MMAA parts (supplemented with a few bits and pieces from the original WOTR bows and bills set and the Mercenaries set) the build possibilities have expanded exponentially with the addition of three more late Perry medieval sets: Foot Knights, Light Cavalry, plus the Agincourt to Orleans English army set.
So I wanted to have a play with the new potential in these sets alongside the MMAA components, to create some slightly different WOTR-era cavalry…
The first set of new figures are all Yorkist Mounted Men at Arms. These will accompany the King (who, to remind you, looks like this).
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/577_19_04_15_12_10_39_1.jpg)
First up, is a standard bearer, gazing manfully up at his streaming banner, which bears the King’s personal arms (I'll be using one of the excellent Pete's Flags standards for this).
This is pretty much a standard build from the MMAA set, but with one of the newer heads from the Foot Knights set, and little bit of jiggery pokery with the flagstaff arm (the gauntlet and spearshaft come from the Light Cav set, grafted on).
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_13_08_15_10_34_30_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_13_08_15_10_34_30_3.JPG)
Next, a bareheaded Man-At-Arms, made up from one of the Light Cavalry bodies and bridle arms, with the bare head from the MMAA set added, and a flourishing sword arm from the Foot Knights set.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_13_08_15_10_34_30_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_13_08_15_10_35_57_0.JPG)
The next one uses the closed kettle helm from the Foot Knights set on top of one of the MMAA bodies. The poleaxe dangling from his hand is also from the Foot Knights set. Polexaes were almost certainly not used from horseback as they required two hands to wield effectively. And it’s a very heavy weapon to hold just by the end of the haft (try it with a pickaxe some time). So in various ways, this figure is not very realistic. Oh well. I think he looks suitably sinister, which I like.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_13_08_15_10_34_29_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_13_08_15_10_34_29_1.JPG)
Finally, for now, a lance-armed rider. He's the light cavalry body with long boots and a breastplate under an open coat. The bridle arm is from the light cavalry set, the lance arm and helmet from the MMAA set.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_13_08_15_10_35_57_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_13_08_15_10_35_57_2.JPG)
The horses are all pretty standard. Obviously the trick is to try to build the horse so that it fits in with the attitude / pose of the rider.
Next up will be a posse of rascally hobilars, currours, coustillers, ribauds, scurrers - call ‘em what you will. Basically brigands on horseback... Gimme a day or two... ;)
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Looking good, now get some paint on them please :)
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Lush! 8)
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Nice work Richard.
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Thanks.
By the way, I'm looking for a couple of extra Perry plastic Salute 2015 figures. If anyone's got one they're not going to use, please pm me with terms - thanks :)
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Hope your mojo comes back soon (mines been gone since the LPL lol)
I've got a Salute figure I think I can let you have ;)
cheers
James
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Hope your mojo comes back soon (mines been gone since the LPL lol)
I've got a Salute figure I think I can let you have ;)
Yes, I'm afraid the LPL pretty much did for me this year :(
Great news on the Salute figure - thanks James.
:)
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very nice builds
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Yes, I'm afraid the LPL pretty much did for me this year :(
Richard, I'm actually quite disturbed that you've waylaid your painting mojo! :o
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Lovely builds as usual Richard. :D
Sorry to hear the urge to paint has done a runner. I've struggled the last couple of months too. Must be the time of year.
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Calma, like the portugiese would say. You will find back to your mojo. In the moment you take an artistic outtime to come back stronger. And your Caveman-Table is fantastic, by the way.
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Thanks lads :)
Yes, I find painting is something you have to be in the mood for. There's no mileage in trying to force it if your head's not in the right place. It becomes a chore and the results aren't as good.
I'm off on holiday for a couple of weeks after next week, so I'm pretty sure I'll be raring to break out the brushes again come September :)
Meanwhile, I'll just keep pushing the plastic bits together :D
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Right then, as mentioned, the advent of the Light Cavalry and Agincourt to Orleans sets from the Perrys, has allowed me to finally make up some real rabble... lower class light cavalry - hobilars, currours, coustillers, ribauds, scurrers - whatever you want to call ‘em. But basically horsemen, lightly arnoured but armed to the teeth, living in the saddle and used for scouting, foraging and harrying the countryside round about…
To create the rough-and-ready pillaging look, I’ve duly mashed-up parts from the Perry light cavalry set, using un-helmeted longbowmen heads and bucklers from the Agincourt-Orleans English Army set, plus a selection of slung helmets, bags, spare weapons, ropes and other bits and pieces from the new Frostgrave soldiers set, supplemented with a few Green Stuff pouches and bags. I've loaded them up to create the look of an army living off the land, and ready for mischief.
The first figure pictured sports one of the two heads included in the Perrys' Salute 2015 freebie miniature kit. Very useful, which is why I need to lay my hand on a few more of them!
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_15_08_15_11_45_36_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_15_08_15_11_45_37_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_15_08_15_11_45_37_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_15_08_15_11_45_37_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_15_08_15_11_47_34_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_15_08_15_11_47_34_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_15_08_15_11_47_34_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_15_08_15_11_47_34_2.JPG)
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Oh yes, very nice. The knights are of course excellent but I do find the scum to be the most interesting. 8)
(Felt a little twinge of the WotRs mojo returning! ;))
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Some of West Winds hooded heads from the Arthurian range might suit your "scummier" types?
Right then, as mentioned, the advent of the Light Cavalry and Agincourt to Orleans sets from the Perrys, has allowed me to finally make up some real rabble... lower class light cavalry - hobilars, currours, coustillers, ribauds, scurrers - whatever you want to call ‘em. But basically horsemen, lightly arnoured but armed to the teeth, living in the saddle and used for scouting, foraging and harrying the countryside round about…
To create the rough-and-ready pillaging look, I’ve duly mashed-up parts from the Perry light cavalry set, using un-helmeted longbowmen heads and bucklers from the Agincourt-Orleans English Army set, plus a selection of slung helmets, bags, spare weapons, ropes and other bits and pieces from the new Frostgrave soldiers set, supplemented with a few Green Stuff pouches and bags. I've loaded them up to create the look of an army living off the land, and ready for mischief.
The first figure pictured sports one of the two heads included in the Perrys' Salute 2015 freebie miniature kit. Very useful, which is why I need to lay my hand on a few more of them!
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_15_08_15_11_45_36_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_15_08_15_11_45_37_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_15_08_15_11_45_37_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_15_08_15_11_45_37_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_15_08_15_11_47_34_4.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_15_08_15_11_47_34_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_15_08_15_11_47_34_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_15_08_15_11_47_34_2.JPG)
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Superb! :-*
Shame about the painting mojo but it always comes back stronger after a bit of a holiday, an Apache knows how to wait ;)
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I love me a bit of scum :D
cheers
James
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Splendid stuff, I like all the bits of kits and Greenstuff extras, it makes the figure really come to life. :)
Painting mojo? Haven't had one of those for ages. Painted some Baluchis and sailors for James aborted Mars game just beforenSalute and haven't painted anything since. :'(
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Painted some Baluchis and sailors for James aborted Mars game just before Salute and haven't painted anything since. :'(
Yeah, that's right, rub it in ::)
;D
cheers
James
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Nice builds.
I am sure they will look just gorgeous when the mojo returns.
8) 8)
I love me a bit of scum :D
I know.
I have seen the video.
;D
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Very nice builds Richard !
Best regards Michael
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Nicely done. :D
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Very nice figures indeed
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Thanks chaps.
I will get round to painting them sooner or later, really :)
(Felt a little twinge of the WotRs mojo returning! ;))
Well, it was worth making these up for that alone :)
Once you've finished your 82 Germans, obviously ;)
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:D
Your WotR thread/collection has always been an inspiration to me ;)
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I've re-read this thread over the last couple of days and there is some super stuff there Cap'n B. Can I ask a couple of questions?
When you did your big bombard thing, what sized base did you use? I was inspired to have a go with mine and discovered that the 120x60mm base I thought would do the job was too small and 150mm long seems the smallest one could get away with, and 80mm or larger for width?
Also, what colour was the filling of the padded jackets? I've got one or two that haven't come away cleanly from the sprue and I thought I might portray them as coming apart at the seams rather than repairing them with poly cement.
And - why didn't the gambeson get wider usage before? I mean you look at the Dark Ages and my impression at least is that they either suited up with mail, wore boiled leather, or nothing at all. You'd think that a padded jacket would be a middle income sort of outfit....
Finally, I used a couple of the trumplines from the Perry Continental Army box as these looked suitably generic slung over the back of the WotR figures. just a thought. Having seen what you've done with the Agincourt figures I'm tempted to buy a box and start trying things out!
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Thanks, Littlearmies :)
The bombard base - um, really not sure. Don't have it to hand at the moment. I just cut a base out of plastic card that was big enough to hold the bomard and mantlet, plus around 8 figures and some bits and pieces.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_09_01_13_6_35_05_3.jpg)
Looking at it again, I would say the base is maybe 200mm long by 100mm wide? Something like that?
The wadding in quilted gambesons was mostly wool, I believe (Medieval England's staple product, let's remember) but perhaps sometimes also flax (linen) and horsehair. Basically any fibrous, heavy duty stuffing, the denser the better. So I guess the colour of the stuffing, if seen through a rip in the surface fabric, would likely be a neutral / natural off white/grey.
Don't really know why quilted armour came into its prime in the mid to late medieval period, and not so much before. Maybe we just don't have the surviving archaeological or illustrative / monumental evidence from earlier times. In wargames terms, I've certainly seen Normans portrayed in quilted hauberks. Aztecs too. But I don't know about the evidence for these things.
Good idea on the trumplines from the AWI set. All baggage is good and useful, and I guess a blanket roll or a knapsack is much like a blanket roll or knapsack whether it's from the C15th or C18th Centuries.
(Actually, I don't know what a trumpline is. Is it the blanket roll?)
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Missed the Bombard before.....kin lovely!!! :-* :-* :-* :-*
Actually, I don't know what a trumpline is. Is it the blanket roll?
A Quote from a rich bloke trying to get elected :)
I´ve heard of a "tumpline"..the strap attached to a pack which then goes on your back and then the strap is put across the forehead.
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Helo CB
Thanks for your response.
Apologies - it should be tumpline (I was lifting the spelling from the sheet that comes with the set - and that isn't the only typo!) - essentially it is a bedroll, folded in half, held together by a couple of straps, worn diagonally on the back secured to a belt passed over one shoulder. There are a couple of the WoTR plastic figures that already have such a strap moulded on. If you try this I suggest you scrape away a bit of the strap running across the back so you get a snug fit on the tumpline.
Obviously a picture is worth a thousand words: http://gilesallison.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/perry-miniatures-plastic-awi-british.html (http://gilesallison.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/perry-miniatures-plastic-awi-british.html) These are the British but the American pack has them too - but as there are no extra packs / tumplines (at least in the American box) you'll need to find someone doing some AWI in light kit only.
Malc
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Right then, as mentioned, the advent of the Light Cavalry and Agincourt to Orleans sets from the Perrys, has allowed me to finally make up some real rabble... lower class light cavalry - hobilars, currours, coustillers, ribauds, scurrers - whatever you want to call ‘em. But basically horsemen, lightly arnoured but armed to the teeth, living in the saddle and used for scouting, foraging and harrying the countryside round about…
To create the rough-and-ready pillaging look, I’ve duly mashed-up parts from the Perry light cavalry set, using un-helmeted longbowmen heads and bucklers from the Agincourt-Orleans English Army set, plus a selection of slung helmets, bags, spare weapons, ropes and other bits and pieces from the new Frostgrave soldiers set, supplemented with a few Green Stuff pouches and bags. I've loaded them up to create the look of an army living off the land, and ready for mischief.
The first figure pictured sports one of the two heads included in the Perrys' Salute 2015 freebie miniature kit. Very useful, which is why I need to lay my hand on a few more of them!
(http://www.lead-
adventure.de/gallery/22/577_15_08_15_11_45_36_1.JPG)
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Those are lovely .
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That bombard base is a stunning piece, Richard. Beautiful work!
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Thanks Alex :)
The trouble with such a long running thread is that you lose track of what came before!
The bombard in all its glory is fully detailed back on page 57 lol
It was the front cover diorama for an issue of Wargames Soldiers and Strategy magazine :)
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Again wonderful pieces, Richard! :-*
I had to read a couple of pages and it was pure joy to follow your additions. The King is awesome and likewise the bombard base. Top-notch!
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Wonderful thread, my dear Captain. Lots of inspiration. And now, sorry to be a bit off topic, but since I couldn't find the rules for your WotR game, would you be so kind to give a link for it? I know I had it somewhere, but can't find if my life would depend on it :/
Keep up the good work, may the Perry brothers give you more figures to work with ;)
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Thank you Zirrian.
The rules I have mainly used are by Silent Invader. See http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=74159.0
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re: Gambeson: Some of the figures on the Bayeaux Tapestry seem to be wearing a garment with a lozenge-shape design that has been interpreted as indicating quilted protection i.e a gambeson.
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Indeed. And some in 'scale' armour, as well as those apparently depicted in chainmail. Which, is, I am sure, the basis for many miniatures sculptors putting the occasional Norman into quilted armour rather than a mail hauberk. Unfortunately, art historians, archaeologists and military historians have been arguing about the literal accuracy of what is depicted in the tapestry since time immemorial. Pinpoint accurate depiction of contemporary military dress and equipment, or fanciful interpretation by non-military embroiderers? Or somewhere in between. Guess we'll never know for sure :)
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Indeed. And some in 'scale' armour, as well as those apparently depicted in chainmail. Which, is, I am sure, the basis for many miniatures sculptors putting the occasional Norman into quilted armour rather than a mail hauberk. Unfortunately, art historians, archaeologists and military historians have been arguing about the literal accuracy of what is depicted in the tapestry since time immemorial. Pinpoint accurate depiction of contemporary military dress and equipment, or fanciful interpretation by non-military embroiderers? Or somewhere in between. Guess we'll never know for sure :)
I just took advantage of the "Ansel B'day Sale" bought some of the Foundry later Normans (they'll be used in vignettes for the Hastings game at Salute- totally shameless plug!) and one on the knights had a hauberk that seems to be leather and has a chain attached in a sort of checkered fashion! I'm not sure how practicable this armour would be but I'm going to include it in the game due to the paucity of evidence that we have to the 11th Century and it's armours.
Darrell.
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re: Gambeson: Some of the figures on the Bayeaux Tapestry seem to be wearing a garment with a lozenge-shape design that has been interpreted as indicating quilted protection i.e a gambeson.
I was rather thinking of earlier than this - Viking raiders, Saxons and so on. They had access to wool and flax so one wonders why they didn't use it.
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I was rather thinking of earlier than this - Viking raiders, Saxons and so on. They had access to wool and flax so one wonders why they didn't use it.
I'm pretty sure that it would have been used. After all, the women of Canterbury can't have been too well read on the art of war :) who knows, some of the representations in the tapestry might actually indicate padded cloth armours(?).
Stephen Turnbull is pretty convinced that padded cloth armours were brought to Europe from the Muslim sphere of influence but I'm not so convinced. It wouldn't be the first time in human history that two idea have developed (out of necessity) in two different places pretty much simultaneously.
Darrell.
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Well, time for my quarterly visit to this thread.
Sits back with a mug of mead to enjoy the visual delights.
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Incredible work! Just ordered some Perry Foot Knights, now the wait begins.
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You won't be disappointed :)
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Whilst not my period I just want you to know how much enjoyment and inspiration I get from this thread...have just reread a huge part of it just to take onboard the ingenuity and skill evident in all your pieces...truly marvellous stuff sir....with regard to the loss of mojo a while back....can be a seasonal thing I find....long winter months being more conducive to staying indoors and getting on with stuff....either way thanks for sharing your endeavours
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Thank you. I really appreciate the generous compliment.
Undoubtedly the supportive comments of other gamers and modellers on these boards, help provide the impetus to keep going with such a long running project.
(I suspect it may never end, as long as the Perrys keep producing new medieval sets o_o)
Thanks again :)
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(I suspect it may never end, as long as the Perrys keep producing new medieval sets o_o)
In that case I hope they do keep adding more plastic medievals so that we can keep ogling your kitbashings, even though every time I look at one of your updates my wallet cries :)
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Thanks Alex :)
The trouble with such a long running thread is that you lose track of what came before!
The bombard in all its glory is fully detailed back on page 57 lol
It was the front cover diorama for an issue of Wargames Soldiers and Strategy magazine :)
It's a shame. Such a great thread with SO many good pages, but there's no easy way to click back to a certain page! Bum fluff!! >:(
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It's a shame. Such a great thread with SO many good pages, but there's no easy way to click back to a certain page! Bum fluff!! >:(
As much as I dislike performing Threadomancy, I felt I could do a service here in addition to the gushing over Captain Blood's work. You can go to a specific page by adjusting the numbers at the end of the address. Page 57 is at this location:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=40936.850 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=40936.850)
Captain Blood, between this thread and your GoT thread, I can't say enough about your good work. The conversions, kit bashing and paint jobs are truly remarkable. You take these from such basic builds and make them something unique and characterful. Kudos!
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Thank you. That's very kind :)
I have painted the scum of the earth - they'll be appearing in the upcoming Lead Painters League in due course.
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Something to look forward to in the LPL then!
I never noticed the last reply count count in the URL. Adjusting it by 15 replies per page is a quick way to move pages.
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Something to look forward to in the LPL then!
Thanks - here you go then :)
Scum of the earth painted, fresh from crushing defeat in the LPL ;)
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Excellent stuff Richard, certainly winners in my book.
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Little works of art, as always. How I admire your shading and blending - particularly the horse musculature.
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They look quite healthy, despite them taking a pounding at the battlefield.
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A magnificent array, sir.
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They look quite healthy, despite them taking a pounding at the battlefield.
The musician could well be sounding the retreat.
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Stunning as always. Just love all the extra little touches that show them as the raiders and foragers they are. I'm glad I voted for them even if they didn't win. Thanks for sharing
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Magnificent. Actually art.
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Fantastic painting. :-*
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Darrell.
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Gawd! :-* :-* :-* Just beautiful.
What an untrustworthy looking bunch!!
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Exceptional painting, love the horses.
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Richard
really like those - including the horses! - where do the ropes and extra bags come from please (Guessing Fireforge plastics or the like?)
Simon.
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You do have a very ffective vibrant painting style. Well done on the conversion work too
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Really love your work, totally inspired me to start my own War of the roses army! awesome work on the latest stuff!
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I voted for you Captain, exquisite figures, paint and lighting/photography
What an untrustworthy looking bunch!!
Those horses look more sinister than their riders! :o Devious equines! The big red and fawns especially!!!
They must have learned a thing or two from some Bretonnian war horses (mine always do more damage than the knights) ;D
Cheers
Matt
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Thanks gents :)
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really like those - including the horses! - where do the ropes and extra bags come from please (Guessing Fireforge plastics or the like?)
Simon.
Simon, there are a few of my own little Green Stuff creations there, but actually most of them come from the two Frostgrave plastic sets - a nice selection of pouches, quivers, coils of rope, knapsacks, daggers, purses and so on...
Richard
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Just stunning :o 8) 8)
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very strong colours. Beautiful job.
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These are really awesome :-* :-* :-*
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:-* :-* :-* Great stuff Richard...you always excite and depress me with your work at the same time...excite with how good it is and depress with the reality I won't be as good.... :'(
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Magnificent as always, Captain!! Such an inspiring thread. Beautiful colours.
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Outstanding painting! Really love the vibrant colours you used.
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Very inspirational - bravo! :D
This thread pushed me into a medieval project I did last year. I wasn't a member then, but I used to gaze at the photos and wonder.
Keep them coming!
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Fantastic work on the latest unit! Finally taken the leap and got my own set of Perry Foot Knights
Thanks for sharing
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Thanks :)
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This thread is really inspiring.
I think it was Captain Blood's thread on the Steve Dean forum where I got the concept: they are plastic, they are easy to modify, and a hand with a sword in it is a hand with a sword in it, ready to be used in an abundance of ways. I've slowly been moving into making mods. Today I was looking at the mounted light cavalry and noticed a standard bearer arm with a brigandine looking arm protection. I decided to marry that to a brigandine body from the WotR box and make a new standard bearer. That part was pretty easy. His left arm wasn't really well posed so I went to work on that. I ended up using 4 pieces to make an arm carrying a hammer. It took awhile to figure out where to get stuff and how to stitch it all together but it's pretty cool - in a kind of Frankenstein sort of way....
So, hats off to Captain Blood for the inspiration.
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8) Thank you. I'm glad you find it stimulating. As you've probably discovered though, Perry plastic building is horribly addictive, so be warned! lol
Would love to see some of your creations. They sound great.
Must admit, looking at this thread after a few months break, I realise I've got quite a few WOTR figures sitting half made and / or prepped / unpainted, overtaken by other projects... I ought to get back into it and paint a few more in 2017... I've got some Yorkist mounted men at arms to do, and a whole Yorkist artillery company... ::)
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Splendidly done sir! :o
I absolutely love your brushwork!
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Absolutely fantastic thread Captain! :-* :-*
Christopher
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Thanks gents. It's been a long haul, and it's not over yet! lol :)
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Highly inspirational. Your work pushed me over the edge into ordering my own Hundred Years War stuff!
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Thanks Grant. I hope you don't regret it!
As you can see from this and many other LAF threads, building these little plastic figures, with all the possibilities they possess for making every figure unique, is a seriously addictive niche hobby within a hobby! The problem is, you're then obliged to paint all the little buggers! And that's the time-consuming bit... ::)
For some more Perry HYW-specific inspiration, check out Don Voss's thread here... He build and painted this lot very quickly indeed...
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=77614.0
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Wonderful work Captain Blood! This is my second review of the thread and it inspired me to begin plastic surgery with my Perry boxes. Great construction, beautiful painting, and a great advert for the boxed sets. I bought all of their boxes after the first go-round with this thread for an imagi-world army.
Anyone know if they are expanding the range? I thought I read somewhere on LAF that they intended to do so.
All the best for 2017!
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Thanks IgnatiusO :)
Michael Perry told me that there would be a HYW mounted knights set at some point. Apart from that, I think they've got the C15th pretty much covered in plastic... Unless they do a plastic artillery set... But artillery is a minority interest in this period, and you don't need very many guns and crew - so I doubt that would be a good enough seller to justify the investment.
I've long said that the logical extension to the late medieval plastics range would be a plastic box of Landsknechts / Swiss - a subject which would lend itself perfectly to the multipart plastic kit format; a setting which the Perrys previously did comprehensively for Foundry (so they've got form), and which would extend their 'European Armies' range (1450 - 1500) a little further into the early C16th. And, by the way, which would undoubtedly be a big hit with the GW 'Empire' crowd...
All in all, I can't believe they haven't done it yet. But maybe it just doesn't grab them :)
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If they stuck with the Late 15th Century and the first couple of years of the 16th, their Landsknechts would actually be unique; at least as far as I know nobody does any that would represent them that early. They would still be quite compatible with the rest of the 'Wars of the Roses' range too.
The logical extension of their 'European Armies' range would be the First Italian War of 1495-98 and/or the Swabian War of 1499, but as you say, they tend to do what appeals to them. Alternatively the Granada War of 1482-1492 would both extend the range and still use the existing range; including plain English troops, but not Landsknechts.
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All just too, too pretty. It's not just the painting though, it's the posing and the little accoutrements added on that make them seem so authentic.
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Michael Perry told me that there would be a HYW mounted knights set at some point. Apart from that, I think they've got the C15th pretty much covered in plastic...
That would be nice. I would welcome different horses - I wonder what horses for HYW mounted knights would look like?
I wish they would add some more levy type figures - replacing the twelve bodies on the WotR sprue with guys without armor or livery jackets would be nice. I'd be content to have a pack of those in metal even.
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I wish they would add some more levy type figures - replacing the twelve bodies on the WotR sprue with guys without armor or livery jackets would be nice. I'd be content to have a pack of those in metal even.
A box split between un-liveried jack-protected and unarmoured men, would pretty much seal the range for me, even if it did mean manually adding 'bends' to them in lieu of livery jackets.
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Hey captain,
I just went through your entire topic and I must say this is truly inspiring work. Absolutely amazing stuff. You actually got me to start building new things for my own warband and I think I should make a topic here too. Keep up the great work and hopefully you will keep building stuff for your forces.
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I would welcome different horses - I wonder what horses for HYW mounted knights would look like?
Interesting question, something I've wondered about - would they use the same horses as their WOTR kits or do new ones? If the latter I can't imagine they would be much different....
A box split between un-liveried jack-protected and unarmoured men, would pretty much seal the range for me, even if it did mean manually adding 'bends' to them in lieu of livery jackets.
What would seal the range for me is a box of halberdiers/pikemen, in good poses. The shouldered pikes / polearms in the mercenaries box are nice but obviously limited, and the bill / halberd arms in the WOTR box aren't the most useful for large ranked up units.... I'd love a box just for infantry with polearms in good natural poses, held in two hands, from upright to lowered and everything in between... The arms could be part of the bodies, with separate hands with weapons for different polearms and pikes. That would do it for me!
Or alternatively just loads more metal packs. Seems kind of unfinished to me, like they had other sets planned but got bored. Just mundane things would keep me happy, billmen and archers in different combinations of armour and poses, etc.... I get jealous of the ammount of stuff they've released for their Napolenoic and American Civil War ranges!!!
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Hey captain,
I just went through your entire topic and I must say this is truly inspiring work. Absolutely amazing stuff. You actually got me to start building new things for my own warband and I think I should make a topic here too. Keep up the great work and hopefully you will keep building stuff for your forces.
I will. Just a bit of a lull at the moment while I work on other projects.
It's most humbling that quite a few people have been inspired by this thread to pick up the poly cement and follow the plastic path to the late medieval :)
Good fun too ;)
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Indeed! You should get a hearty thank you from Perry Mins!
The first half of my order has arrived and I am super impressed with them; the metals are good, but the plastics are amazing.
Hope to get into them sometime soon. So many projects it seems.
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Indeed! You should get a hearty thank you from Perry Mins!
To be fair, they have given me a few freebies - although I do also spend a fair amount with them!
Interesting question, something I've wondered about - would they use the same horses as their WOTR kits or do new ones? If the latter I can't imagine they would be much different....
Well, the WOTR range was all done by Michael - the Agincourt to Orleans plastic kits are by Alan, and as we know, although they are very easily interchangeable, they are slightly different in style as well as size. So although it would be tempting, I'm sure, for them to just re-use the same horses again, knowing what sticklers they are for accuracy -including the right kind of tack for 1415 rather than 1485 - and the fact that the riders will be done by Alan too presumably, I think there's at least a chance that they'll treat us with some new horses :)
Let's face it, they've done a gazillion different horses for all Alan's various Napoleonic cavalry sets...
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If they stuck with the Late 15th Century and the first couple of years of the 16th, their Landsknechts would actually be unique; at least as far as I know nobody does any that would represent them that early.
Actually, TAG have just released a small metal range of early landsknechts for the 1490-1510 period :
(http://www.theassaultgroup-shop.co.uk/assets/ren364.jpg)
(http://www.theassaultgroup-shop.co.uk/assets/ren367.jpg)
http://www.theassaultgroup-shop.co.uk/imperialist (http://www.theassaultgroup-shop.co.uk/imperialist)
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To be fair, they have given me a few freebies - although I do also spend a fair amount with them!
Well, the WOTR range was all done by Michael - the Agincourt to Orleans plastic kits are by Alan, and as we know, although they are very easily interchangeable, they are slightly different in style as well as size. So although it would be tempting, I'm sure, for them to just re-use the same horses again, knowing what sticklers they are for accuracy -including the right kind of tack for 1415 rather than 1485 - and the fact that the riders will be done by Alan too presumably, I think there's at least a chance that they'll treat us with some new horses :)
Let's face it, they've done a gazillion different horses for all Alan's various Napoleonic cavalry sets...
I would love more horses. I'm not that keen on the existing ones. I keep forgetting what a pain it is to paint the horse trappings on these - next group I'll file off those studs all the way 'round. And I always spend a fair bit of time fixing the seam on their backs. I mean, they are beautiful sculpts but just create a lot of extra work that I'd rather not do.
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Yep. The studs are a pain in the arse to paint. I often shave them off.
I think someone calculated there was something like 13,000 possible permutations from the available horse parts and horse armour in the MMAA set... I've made up about 70 so far. I must admit, I still think Perry make far and away the best horse sculpts of anyone in 28mm. But even I'm getting a wee bit bored of them now.
Simon (Painterman) must have done about 200! I expect he could do with some more variety too :)
I actually love painting horseflesh. But I loathe painting tack, manes and tails. So horses are a mixed blessing for me. Part pleasure, part chore. Funny, isn't it? ;)
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I actually love painting horseflesh. But I loathe painting tack, manes and tails. So horses are a mixed blessing for me. Part pleasure, part chore. Funny, isn't it? ;)
Yeah, that sounds about right!
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Yep. The studs are a pain in the arse to paint. I often shave them off.
I think someone calculated there was something like 13,000 possible permutations from the available horse parts and horse armour in the MMAA set... I've made up about 70 so far. I must admit, I still think Perry make far and away the best horse sculpts of anyone in 28mm. But even I'm getting a wee bit bored of them now.
Simon (Painterman) must have done about 200! I expect he could do with some more variety too :)
I actually love painting horseflesh. But I loathe painting tack, manes and tails. So horses are a mixed blessing for me. Part pleasure, part chore. Funny, isn't it? ;)
I think the plastic horses are absolutely fantastic, truly wonderful, so realistic, cannot be beaten!!!!
But I haven't actually painted any of mine yet... ::)
My new year's goal is to finally get round to painting cavalry. I have nearing 300 infantry right now, so it's about time... I have painted 6 of their metal horses for some command models and really enjoyed it actually, am very pleased with how they came out. Those are also very good sculpts (though irritatingly ever-so-much-smaller than the plastic ones).
I haven't painted the studs on the tack as metal, just kept them the same colour as everything else, and it works fine. I'll do the same on the plastics, and probably shave some of them off too. But I also don't paint the metal studs on the brigandine bodies, and think they look fine!
But seriously though, they are really excellent horse sculpts.
I just WISH they had some of the plastics (or some excuse to make some new ones) in standing and walking poses. I don't want all my cavalry galloping at all times! So it will be interesting to see if the HYW cavalry allow any such poses, and whether the horses will be easy to switch across ranges.
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What would seal the range for me is a box of halberdiers/pikemen, in good poses. The shouldered pikes / polearms in the mercenaries box are nice but obviously limited, and the bill / halberd arms in the WOTR box aren't the most useful for large ranked up units.... I'd love a box just for infantry with polearms in good natural poses, held in two hands, from upright to lowered and everything in between... The arms could be part of the bodies, with separate hands with weapons for different polearms and pikes. That would do it for me!
I agree with this!
I found myself looking at the ECW line, which has a variety of pike wielding poses, to see if you could fudge it. It looked unfeasible.
I did a bit of hacking at a pair of gun arms from the Mercenaries box and got what looks reasonable (likely only to me) as a pose with a pole arm. However it took the use of files, blades, and profanity to get it done. I still have to fill gaps now. It was a lot of work for something that probably doesn't justify the effort.
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Any rumors about upcoming Perry plastics for medievals? Seems like there hasn't been much news at all about plastics from them though I think you mentioned they said at some point they would do Agincourt mounted knights.
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Michael Perry did say that, but he didn't say when.
The Zulu War British infantry set is coming next. Beyond that, they've gone very quiet on the plastic pipeline... No doubt more Napoleonics and ACW will be coming along soon. And I'm sure we'll see a new set previewed at Salute... can't help thinking plastic Zulus have got to be on the cards, although plastic Pathans would be a more useful and versatile set for all sorts of things...
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Michael Perry did say that, but he didn't say when.
The Zulu War British infantry set is coming next. Beyond that, they've gone very quiet on the plastic pipeline... No doubt more Napoleonics and ACW will be coming along soon. And I'm sure we'll see a new set previewed at Salute... can't help thinking plastic Zulus have got to be on the cards, although plastic Pathans would be a more useful and versatile set for all sorts of things...
I am thinking Zulus rather than pathans as think to get the multi pose possibilities with their flowing robes must be more problematic than semi naked zulus
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I do not know why they would want to prioritise Zulus. I think it would not make commercial sense.
Both Wargames Factory and Warlord have made plastic Zulus in the past few years. I have painted about 150 of them.
I think the market for a new Zulu box would be very limited because if people want Zulus they already have "fausands of em".
Parthans would be no more difficult than Zouaves to mould and would be a new army in plastic.
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Well, you say that Mick, but the same thing applies to Zulu War British infantry (already available in plastic), and the Perrys are about to release them.
Also - it's a matter of personal taste I know - but I think the Wargames Factory/Warlord Zulu War plastics are ropey in the extreme. Perry plastics on the other hand, are the best there are. I'm pretty sure Perry plastic ANYTHING will be a good seller. When quality manufacturers produce a product that's attractive enough, they will tempt all sorts of people into a new period that may previously have been holding off. Other will 'trade up' to the better product.
I think we'll see plastic Zulus from the Perrys sooner or later.
Anyway... Back on topic. Haven't done anything much with this thread for a year now. I'm slacking ::)
But I will get back to it one day soon :)
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Well, you say that Mick, but the same thing applies to Zulu War British infantry (already available in plastic), and the Perrys are about to release them.
Also - it's a matter of personal taste I know - but I think the Wargames Factory/Warlord Zulu War plastics are ropey in the extreme. Perry plastics on the other hand, are the best there are. I'm pretty sure Perry plastic ANYTHING will be a good seller. When quality manufacturers produce a product that's attractive enough, they will tempt all sorts of people into a new period that may previously have been holding off. Other will 'trade up' to the better product.
I think we'll see plastic Zulus from the Perrys sooner or later.
Anyway... Back on topic. Haven't done anything much with this thread for a year now. I'm slacking ::)
But I will get back to it one day soon :)
This is absolute truth.
I have hold off being any Zulu since they announced they were releasing it. I have painted some odd 100 Warlord Zulu so far. No more! Never again.
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Holy Mother of smokes, thats pure art at its best, Im impressed :D lots of inspiration :D
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Oh Richard, sometimes I think your are the long lost third twin of the perrys: http://www.wargamesillustrated.net/british-infantry-zulu-war-1877-1881-by-perry-miniatures/
You always knew it before us simple food soldiers ;)
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Oh dear... Nothing productive done on this thread for over 2 years, as other projects have stolen away my interest... But I am about to rekindle it one way or another. And to get the ball rolling, I've finally painted this random man-at-arms who has been sitting on the shelf (literally) gathering dust in his undercoated state for the last two years.
No wonder he looks cross... ;)
I've gone for a slightly more battleworn, bashed-about look on the harness on this one... Grunge may be the new future (although I do still quite like my knights in armour to be shiny)
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Grunge looks good but should't you be painting liveried retainers?
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Done it mate ;)
See my other medieval thread - updating shortly! :D
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That is some pretty metal there. Great to see some medievals from you :D
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Glad to see you back on medievals. :)
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Nice ! Instead of the typical "knight in shining armor," a warrior who has just been in the fray.
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Looking good and battle tested Captain!
Christopher
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Don't stop now! Great painting!
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Great painting. :-* :-* How did you model the boots?
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Lovely stuff as always Richard 8) 8)
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Thanks :)
Great painting. :-* :-* How did you model the boots?
Nothing to do with me, Gary. That’s how this particular Perry figure comes. Full harness, except for the rather New Romantic boots ;)
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Will this thread see a revival once the HYW mounted knights box releases? :)
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Oh yes :)
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Well Captain Blood I have finally given into the inspiration you have provided, initially bought a sprue of each of the Perry plastics and a small number of part built figures off ebay and started painting. It is a painting project to start with, no idea how much use they will actually get but enjoying the fruits of the labour so far.
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Alive! It's aliiiiive!
And splendidly so; good work, cap'n! Two years isn't that long to wait. Last year I finished off an old figure who'd been stuck waiting, partially painted, since 2011, poor thing.
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Thanks chaps, and well done Roger :D
Well, another six months have elapsed but finally I have my arse in gear! The advent of the HYW mounted knights set has spurred me back into life on my Wars of the Roses mounted knights. Mainly to see what kit-bashing opportunities are offered by the new horse armour parts and heads. But also because there are now an amazing EIGHT different Perry late medieval sets, and so the kitbashing potential for assembling new, unique models by intermixing parts from all these sets has expanded exponentially since I made the majority of my original collection.
So here are a few example builds… The first two figures are hybrids… I pictured these before in the thread about the HYW mounted set, but include them again here for completeness...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/37/577-310119220154-374151463.jpeg)
Number one is a half-armoured WOTR light cavalry body with a WOTR knight’s head in visored sallet, but sporting arms from the new HYW mounted knights set. These look fractionally too long, because Alan’s HYW mounted knights are a good 10% bigger and taller all round than Michael’s WOTR mounted sets. But that’s a very nifty war-hammer. Slightly different to the one in the WOTR mounted knights set. The horse has the new HYW head sporting a chamfron with a short segmented crinet and perforated eye guards. And the new plate armour peytral or chest piece, which is a lovely little piece of kit.
(Oh, actually, I've just noticed that in these photos the horses and riders are swapped the other way round, but never mind... ;))
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/37/577-310119220154-37414891.jpeg)
Number two is one of the new HYW lighter armoured rider bodies, with the bascinet-wearing head chopped off and a WOTR sallet head substituted. The arms, including the huuuuge falchion come from the new HYW mounted set. The horse uses the new chainmail barding fore and aft, plus the new horse head in a hefty plate chamfron with pronounced central comb, and a matching mail crinet.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/37/577-310119220154-374071824.jpeg)
Numbers three and four are slightly more ambitious works, as they are both ‘cut-and-shut’ horses. In other words, take one of the horse halves and chop that in half. Then repeat with a different horse half. Then stick the two alternative half-halves together. Make good the joint with a little Green Stuff. Hey presto - this allows you to create different horse postures which you simply can’t do straight from the box without surgery – like a standing or walking horse for instance…
So number three is a standing horse. I have used one of the fully armoured WOTR horse heads, but cut away the moulded-on plumes (which I've never much liked), and replaced with a lighter feather arrangement from the new HYW set. I have also pinched Simon (Painterman’s) idea and added perforated eye-guards from Green Stuff. The chainmail Peytral requires a little bit of Green Stuffing to cover the join of the two halves at the front of the chest. And the croupiere or rear-quarters barding now has a leather tack of Green Stuff to make sense of the join along the top of the rump. The rider is a straight build from the WOTR mounted knights set, although I think that particular sallet comes from the WOTR Foot Knights set. (There are now over 70 different WOTR era heads available in the various Perry sets – all different, but some quite similar. So it’s quite hard keeping track of which part I’ve pulled from where). This commander is urging his men onwards, brandishing his mace in style!
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/38/577-120319191931-380601300.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/38/577-120319191931-380612324.jpeg)
Number four is a light cavalry pricker or scurrer. This is the other cut-and-shut horse. It barely has a hoof on the ground, but that’s not uncommon for galloping horses. I’ve used the HYW horse head with chamfron with mail crinet, but I’ve cut the central reinforcing comb right down. I’ve paired this with the new plate armour peytral. I’ve trimmed the studs off the rear tack because I’m sick of painting the wretched things. The rider is another WOTR light cavalry body, but with a sallet from the WOTR Foot Knights set - the Coventry style helmet with the distinctive jawbone visor: One of my faves. The lance and rein arms and the buckler are actually co-opted from the HYW French Infantry set. I think they work well.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/38/577-120319191931-380621852.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/38/577-120319191931-38063929.jpeg)
I now have about 30-40 new WOTR items in progress on the paint table at the moment (building out my core murrey-and-blue Yorkist force), so this thread should spring back into colourful life before too much longer…
Famous last words... lol
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I now have about 30-40 new WOTR items in progress on the paint table at the moment (building out my core murrey-and-blue Yorkist force), so this thread should spring back into colourful life before too much longer…
Famous last words... lol
Some great builds Richard - my personal favourite is the one with the mace.
Don’t forget to spread the love though....looking forward to more Westerosi as well
:)
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Some interesting and out-of-the-usual figures there. Prickers aren't often depicted, nor is the falchion.
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Nice work Richard (as usual)!
With the peytral from the new box set, I've done variations by removing the two globular pieces on either side and just left the central one and also removing all of them and using it as a plain leather version.
They're easy to remove - slow chop with clippers and then a steady sanding down with sanding stick - avoid using too much pressure so that don't snap, as they're pretty thin.
I'm at basing stage so will pop some pics on here soon.
Cheers, Simon.
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Thanks Simon. Good tip. I shall try that, and must remember I can paint the Peytral as leather rather than plate... :)
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The project rides again!
I particularly like the standing horse cut and shut. Excellent.
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nice additions
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Ooh - those plumes are VERY fragile once attached to helmets.
I’ve broken one twice when basing up...don’t think it’ll survive the first game! ☹️
Shame as they look great.
Simon
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Ooh - those plumes are VERY fragile once attached to helmets.
I’ve broken one twice when basing up...don’t think it’ll survive the first game! ☹️
Shame as they look great.
Simon
Would a drop of superglue (while still intact, rather than waiting for it to break) give the joint some additional strength?
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It is always good to see your stuff, Richard. But this special project is made with heartblood - like we germans say. Hope to see more, I always have these smile when I see your " song of plastic and poly cement"...
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I like the sound of that Dirk :)
What is the saying in German? Something about Herzblut I guess?
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Commented for updates on the marvelous figures and conversions! :D
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I like the sound of that Dirk :)
What is the saying in German? Something about Herzblut I guess?
Right Richard, Herzblut is right.
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I foresee a whole lot of eye candy from this thread.
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If you've been looking at the current Lead Painters League, 13, you'll have seen that I'm back onto Wars of the Roses, rounding out my Yorkist forces...
First up, I've added some artillery...
I painted and shot all these with the LPL in mind, but ended up only using two of the three pictures, because I decided to stick some newly painted Zulus in instead :D
The organ gun or ribauldequin, together with one of the small field guns are from Old Glory - surprisingly good pieces, although I removed the dragon fire spouting from the mouths of the bronze figureheads on the organ gun, and also swapped out the solid wheels for spoked wheels.
Still nicer is the other field piece which is the ex-Grenadier (now Mirliton?) 'human' artillery piece, plus crew members. Given that these Copplestone sculpts must now be the best part of 30 years old, they have stood the test of time unbelievably well. I was lucky to pick them up a few months ago after an enquiry here on the forum. They do not seem to be readily available any more (at least not in the UK) - even from those vendors carrying parts of the old Grenadier fantasy range.
All the rest of the artillery crew figures and standard bearers, gun captains etc are Perry metals, including one or two slight conversions.
The flags are printed cloth-paper from the excellent Pete's Flags (with a little bit of retouching with the paintbrush here and there).
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/577-051219112519-426811434.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/577-051219112518-426802490.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/577-051219112518-42665983.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/577-051219112519-426821349.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/577-051219112519-426832301.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/577-051219113858-426851663.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/577-051219113859-42686506.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/577-051219113859-426871793.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/577-051219113859-42688524.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/577-051219113941.jpeg)
Here's the whole WOTR mobile artillery park so far, with Burgundian, Yorkist and Savoyard crews...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/577-051219113858-42684824.jpeg)
Plus the bombard of course...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/11/577_09_01_13_6_35_05_3.jpg)
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Simply superb :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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BOOOOM!!!
Bit gamey though having so many guns lol
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As always they look great.
If I should make one minor nag. The crewmen could use a bit of a dirtying up. I know from personal experience that operating such guns is very dirty work. You end up with soot everywhere.
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As always they look great.
If I should make one minor nag. The crewmen could use a bit of a dirtying up. I know from personal experience that operating such guns is very dirty work. You end up with soot everywhere.
Not in Captainbloodiverse, they don't!
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If the flags are hand painted, I'll say that's some talent! :o
The rest of the figures and scenic shots look lovely too.
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Excellent :o
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If the flags are hand painted, I'll say that's some talent! :o
The rest of the figures and scenic shots look lovely too.
Thanks. They're printed from Pete's Flags. I've just touched them up a bit here and there :)
The crewmen could use a bit of a dirtying up. I know from personal experience that operating such guns is very dirty work. You end up with soot everywhere.
Ah Frede, you Danes are so serious ;)
I like 'em Hollywood! (Peder knows lol)
Bit gamey though having so many guns lol
Well you know me... ;)
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:-* Excellent Richard, Tyrone Power and Tony Curtis never looked better.
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Wonderful to see :-*
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Great stuff!
I've got the same Old Glory organ gun, like you I replaced the solid wheels with spoked ones, but I chopped the dragon-heads off completely.
I'd considered getting the Old Glory 'culverins', but thought they were quite a bit smaller than the Perry ones. Your pic shows they aren't really, and are actually very nicely detailed. I might pick them up next time I'm at a show.
But then who made those two really tiny ones, the green and brown ones?
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(...)
Bit gamey though having so many guns lol
Well you know me... ;)
It's a bit like Tiger syndrome - wargamers having more of a thing than was totally fielded in history... ;)
But splendid painting all round. With this and those Italian wars threads right now, I can hear my Grunwald/Tannenberg Polish calling for reinforcements...
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They’re a bit nice Richard 8) 8) 8)
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Lovely work Richard :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Brilliant. Been really enjoying these during the LPL
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Cracking work,your blues are amazing (have to start calling you Richard the Regulator,am I being obscure...). I always desaturate my blues,just not confident enough, the colour blindness doesn't help either.
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Terrific :-*
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Ooooh those colours. Lovely work.
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Thanks chaps. Quite a lot more to come on this :)
But then who made those two really tiny ones, the green and brown ones?
They’re from Wargames Foundry, Charlie. They’re generic small primitive cannon. I got one with the Eldorado Adventurers gun crew (late C15th, so broadly the right era) and one with the Sea Dogs gun crew - 100 years later, but I don’t think they’re particularly historically accurate :)
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:-* x 10!
Outstanding work Richard! I sent you an email about the flags. Did you paint the emblems on the uniforms or use decals?
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Thanks Rob. The livery badges are painted.
Pete’s Flags can be found by searching on eBay. He doesn’t have a website or store.
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Thanks Rob. The livery badges are painted.
Pete’s Flags can be found by searching on eBay. He doesn’t have a website or store.
I think that Pete's Flags are about the best on the market. They have a painterly quality that robustly compliments miniature painting (IMHO of course) :)
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I like 'em Hollywood! (Peder knows lol)
Richard's nags are shitting rainbows to.
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Richard's nags are shitting rainbows to.
They’re unicorns in disguise :-*
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Excellent!! 8)
Christopher
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Found the flag link https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/petes_flags?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
As for hand painting your own livery insignia...just another reason to be in awe of you Richard! Your a living God!
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Just dropping in to echo the superlatives. Sweet looking group of artillery!
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nice additions
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Your Yorkist artillery is wonderful and the banners are magnificent (I particularly liked the Falcon and the Fetterlock livery badge)
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Beautiful work Richard - the red/blue is :-*
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Thanks lads :)
A lot of mounted figures to follow shortly...
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And as promised, here are the additional mounted Yorkists that I painted for the Lead Painters League...
As you will see somewhere way up above in this thread, with the exception of the herald, which is a metal Perry figure, all these models are composed from mixing the two WOTR Perry plastic mounted sets, with some parts from the HYW mounted knights set kitbashed in... And a few heads / helmets from the WOTR foot knights set too.
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/577-191219162510-429521636.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/577-191219162510-42954769.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/577-191219162510-429551106.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/577-191219162510-429561410.jpeg)
Here's the mounted Yorkist contingent so far...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/577-191219162510-429571989.jpeg)
And the whole Yorkist retinue in the field... longbows, guns, men-at-arms and bills, and mounted men at arms, prickers and scurrers...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/577-191219162926-42959950.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/577-191219162926-429581858.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/577-191219162926-42960341.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/577-191219162926-429612148.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/577-191219163548-429641115.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/577-191219162926-42962782.jpeg)
The next thing I'll show here is ALL the cavalry together and in their various contingents, since I've now done around 70 of them. It's quite an impressive host if I say so myself lol
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Very impressive :-*
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BEAUTIMUS!
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Wicked cool :D
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Very nice!
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:-* Utterly amazing!
Personally I have never been into the medieval era (hobby not history wise), but if I was standing by a table with your miniatures on top, I would fight to get a chance to play!
I used to always like the knights charging with the lance. But after seeing so many of your beautiful cavalry, I think my favorite is now the hammer. They look really dangerous!
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Wow! Truthfully the finest painting I think I have ever seen. :-*
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Lovely work :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Oh my! :D
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Lovely figures Richard - very colourful and great mash-up of the WotR and Agincourt packs!
All the best
Simon.
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Wonderful group shots, congrats!!
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Bleeding heck, guvnor!
:o :o
They is a bit good.
Pure 'Ollywood!
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Looking amazing!
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Brilliant!!!!
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Great stuff Captain, It looks like a very nice force. Now to get some games in with them, am I right?
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blimus ... stunningly good.
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Thanks.
Great stuff Captain, It looks like a very nice force. Now to get some games in with them, am I right?
You're not wrong, although opportunities are few ::) ;)
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You magnificent beast.
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Thanks.
You're not wrong, although opportunities are few ::) ;)
Same here... I should come to the UK :P
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You magnificent beast.
Thank you sweetie.
I should come to the UK :P
Well, if you're ever passing... ;)
Given where this thread started out a few years ago with the release of the Perry plastic MMAA set, here's the assembled Wars of the Roses mounted host in its entirety (well, for now). It's 60 figures. En masse...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/577-241219104954-43002443.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/577-241219104955-430042430.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/577-241219104955-43006541.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/577-241219104955-430051697.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/577-241219105253-430081556.jpeg)
And by faction...
The Royal House of York in murrey and blue...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/577-241219105253-43009941.jpeg)
The DeBrasseys of Tandridge and Osneys of Outwood (in tawny and blue, purple and green respectively)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/577-241219105253-430101281.jpeg)
Thomas Howard, earl of Surrey, in red and white
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/577-241219105253-430111979.jpeg)
The Tenchleys of Staffhurst (claret and gold) and the Foyles of Crowhurst (light blue and cream)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/577-241219105557-43012595.jpeg)
Assorted Flemish and Milanese mercenaries, ribauds and hobilars bringing up the rear. Plus one Charles the Bold lol
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/577-241219105557-4301388.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/577-241219104954-430031888.jpeg)
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Oh boy..... :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
:o
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Wow!
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Hot damn, there's your Crimbo feast right there.
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Brilliant- can almost hear the clanking of the steel harness!
Simon
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Iv'e only one thing to say WoW!!!!!
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Love them
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Jsst wonderful Richard. :-* :-*
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YOWSERS. o_o
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Wow, that’s amazing work!
Steve
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:o Real top notch work! Thanks for sharing!
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Stunning. A real display of quality AND quantity.
8)
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Money Shot 8)
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Ooooh wow that’s a stunning shot. 60, fabulous!
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:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Quite a splendid lineup, Richard!
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Jolly Nice
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Most excellent :D
Game! Game! Game!
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Thanks lads.
Always up for a WOTR game, James ;)
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not sure it gets much better than that. Beautiful.
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Beautiful!
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I’m speechless, Captain! What a marvelous sight are those jolly knights. Brilliantly painted and nicely set in pose.
Cry havoc and let slip those dogs of war! I wish I had an army to face them in a game.
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Hello,
Just superb !!!! :o
Nikkobourges
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seriously impressive and very beautiful...when are you going to start on the other 60?
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seriously impressive and very beautiful...when are you going to start on the other 60?
Lol, Giles, it’s not ALL about quantity you know ;) lol
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That’s utterly beautiful :-*
Can only be improved by doubling the force size ;)
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Superb - stunning collection there.
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Simply beautiful - and to maintain such a high and consistent painting standard across so many figures is an astounding feat.
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Superb.
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Holy bovine! That's a gorgeous sight.
-Michael
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Thanks lads :)
That’s utterly beautiful :-*
Can only be improved by doubling the force size ;)
lol That's really never going to happen...
(But there may be a few more one day :))
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Utterly breathtaking, I recognised a few (like Charles the bold) but what I find so striking is the sheef variety of horse cours you have within the host and they all look real! Tres manifique Rodders as me old mate Del boy would say. :-* :-* :-*
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Impressive stuff Richard :-*
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A quick question please. Would you recommend any particular kr multicase foam trays for storing / carrying your mounted knights? Ta
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A quick question please. Would you recommend any particular kr multicase foam trays for storing / carrying your mounted knights? Ta
Sorry, I can't help you with Kaiser Rushforth, as I use carrying cases from Figures In Comfort and Feldherr.
My mounted figures are all on 40mm round bases. For these I use double depth FiC trays #11, depth D (105mm deep - because of some upright lances) and depth B (50mm, where the figure has no fragile parts sticking-up).
Each tray gives each give me 25 40mmx45mm slots.
http://www.figuresincomfort.co.uk/products/standard-trays-1/foam-tray-11-flames-of-war-infantry.html
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Thanks, that’s great.
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Here we go, this thread dragged up from the depths again lol
But I have an excuse!
Having picked up the new 'Never Mind The Billhooks' rules with WI, if I'm going to give them a go (which I am), I'll need some suitable 'daunted' and 'disarrayed' markers - having a peculiar OCD hang-up about NOT having coloured plastic/printed tokens sharing my tabletop with nicely painted figures and terrain.
My recently devised 'ploughed-in cannonballs' (see https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=122963.0) will probably do for 'disarrayed' markers, but I need something more, um.. daunting for 'daunted'.
As it happens, years ago, I had a go at making some squashed Perry plastic WOTR figures as battlefield debris. Now it occurs that these would make rather nifty markers for NMTBH.
So I've made up some more.
I'm not going to do a complete tutorial, but here offer some hints and tips for anyone that's interested :)
I'm lucky, I suppose, that having made up about 250 assorted Perry WOTR plastics, plus a lot of other plastic kitbasing, I have huge tub of spare parts with many hundreds of arms, heads, weapons, pieces of weapons, and innumerable bits of bodies. So it's not really costing me anything to use up some of these leftover bits to create some more models.
First up, you obviously need to cut the base off the figure. Some of the bodies lend themselves to a 'dead' posture more than others, although almost any of them will work with enough surgery. This is really just trial and error.
Having chopped off the base (easy with a sharp knife), a good first step is to chop off one leg too, and then reposition it slightly at a somewhat unnatural angle. It could be broken or it could just be the kind of strange attitudes you see in dead bodies, where the limbs often appear to fall in peculiar positions, as life has been extinguished. You will see I've done this on several of the figures shown below.
Also, you can make an incision behind the knee, snick out a small wedge of plastic, and then bend the leg back so it's tucked under the recumbent figure, whether its lying face down or face up.
If the leg breaks during this process, just glue it back on (I draw the line at severed limbs lying around), and you can make good the kneecap with a tiny bit of Green Stuff. Or just cover it up with an abandoned buckler or the shattered haft of a polearm.
Battlefield debris, by the way, really help to set off these dead characters - discarded helmets or swords, bucklers, a shattered pieces of polearm, all help to create that picture of the aftermath of a ferocious melee.
The position of the arms is also important. They basically need to look lifeless and flopped. On the figures shown below, in several cases I've done hand swap to change the attitude of the hand itself, so that it appears to be hanging limply at the end of an arm. These kind of minor alterations really are dead simple (haha) with a sharp knife and a splash of poly cement. It literally takes 20 seconds.
Once the newly attached appendage has started to set, which takes only a minute or two, you can bend it to its final desired posture, and then give it a quick brush over with another generous splosh of poly cement, to magic away any obvious join or visual inconsistency.
The second most important thing is the position of the head. Hopefully you'll see that in all the bodies below, the head is resting at a slightly unnatural angle - thrown backwards or lolling forwards - not at all like the head of a living person. You have to push this much further than you may at first feel comfortable with. It looks odd to start with, but once the figure is embedded on its resting place, it is this awkwardly positioned head that will really sell it as a corpse (ghastly, I know - sorry about that ::)).
Finally, THE most important thing is actually the base and the groundwork.
Even with surgery, a casualty figure created from a body that's portrayed in a walking / standing pose, will almost certainly not lie obligingly flat on the ground, on whatever base you put it on. Instead of worrying about how to make the figure lie flat, all you need to do is terraform the ground BENEATH the figure, to raise up the ground surface so that it follows the figure's contours and appears to be naturally supporting the figure, wherever / however it has fallen.
To do this, you can first support your figure on a small pad of Green Stuff, roughly moulded to fit the shape of the figure and raise it up onto a natural undulation.
Then fill in all around the figure with your basing compound (as for all things, I use gloop - a simple, homemade sand / paint / PVA mix, very easy to apply, and you can make it as thick or thin as you like to further build up the ground surface, or to run into small crevices, like between the figure's legs, etc).
Finally, judicious positioning of small rocks also helps makes visual sense of the finished model.
If an arm, leg, or head is still a bit up in the air, then stick a rock under it, and then build up around the rock with a small amount of gloop. Hey Presto. It no longer looks like the body part is resting in the air at an unnatural angle - it now looks like it has naturally come to rest against a rock.
You can do the same thing with small twigs masquerading as logs, and with helmets, bucklers, weapons etc.
And finally, if there is any aspect of the finished figure that doesn't look quite right, you always have tufts to camouflage a multitude of sins.
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-310820134050-480262456.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-310820134050-480341662.jpeg)
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(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-310820134242-480381597.jpeg)
The bare-chested figure is actually a Zulu casualty from the Perry Zulu set - figured I might as well use him. I've given him a Green Stuff codpiece, waist ties and boots, and he'll be painted as wearing hose, the battlefield scavengers having clearly looted his gambeson and shirt.
Here are the four new ones with the three that I made some years ago.
I think I'll probably make another three or four to make sure I've got enough for a game involving 20 or so units.
Can't imagine more than half the units on the battlefield are going to be 'daunted' at any one time, right? ;)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-310820134242-480391250.jpeg)
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Yikes! More stuff on one of my favorite threads! ;D
Those boys certainly look dead, Richard. Well done. :-*
Looking forward to seeing more.
Bye the bye, since you have decided to do these perhaps you will consider having a few bashed in heads. I know it sounds ghoulish, but I understand that the head was a favored target in this time.
Have you ever seen this video: The Bloodiest Battle Ever Fought In Britain | The Battle Of Towton | Timeline (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvvhtIx2DRc) Very interesting.
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Great work, and suitably grim!
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I would say lovely but that does not seem right for the subject :D
Cracking job :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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they look very dead indeed ! :-*
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Bravo! :-* :-* :-*
I take it the Zulu guy is influenced by the Towton Mass Grave Project?
The findings that the bodies were stripped and mutilated, possibly after capture and prior to their deaths. (There's evidence of mutilation before death on some of the skeletons)
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Excellent, thanks for the how-to guide. I must try my hand at a few of these sometime. I particularly like the armoured man-at-arms!
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Too many words lol
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Lovely work on the tokens
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An excellent, if somewhat grizzly post Richard.
Funnily enough I’ve been pondering exactly this subject matter for my GoT project, so the timing couldn’t be better from my own perspective.
The “how-to” aspect is particularly helpful, so thanks for sharing
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Thanks chaps :)
Too many words lol
There are pictures too, O He With The Attention Span Of A Gnat With Attention Deficit Disorder.
(Some people find explanations HELPFUL James ::) lol)
I take it the Zulu guy is influenced by the Towton Mass Grave Project?
The findings that the bodies were stripped and mutilated, possibly after capture and prior to their deaths. (There's evidence of mutilation before death on some of the skeletons)
Yes, I had that in mind.
I remember seeing the facial reconstruction of one of the Towton mass burial-pit bodies. He looked just like the builder working on my house at the time: a bald-headed heavyweight thug, with a face like an old-school prizefighter.
Bye the bye, since you have decided to do these perhaps you will consider having a few bashed in heads. I know it sounds ghoulish, but I understand that the head was a favored target in this time.
Thanks Ray.
Yes indeed, way back somewhere near the start of this thread, when the Perry plastic mounted men-at-arms first appeared (8 years ago - :o :o :o :o) I made up this little diorama, which subsequently appeared as an article in Wargames, Soldiers & Strategy magazine.
Entitled 'the Towton Tap', it depicts the rout after the battle, when thousands of the defeated Lancastrians were ridden down in the Bloody Meadow and crossing the Cock Beck (which allegedly ran red with blood for a week afterwards).
A number of the exhumed skulls bore neat, quadrilateral punctures in the top of the cranium - evidence of a favoured killing blow being delivered with the sharp beak of a reversed warhammer, brought down on the unprotected skulls of the fleeing footsoldiers by the pursuing horsemen.
It's been a long time, so I'm going to crave your indulgence and re-show the pics of that grisly little diorama again.
Here we go...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_06_08_12_10_29_35_1.JPG)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_06_08_12_10_29_35_3.jpg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_06_08_12_10_29_34_0.JPG)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_06_08_12_10_29_35_2.jpg)
Actually, looking at these again, some more running men (Arnie style!) would also make good markers. So maybe I'll kitbash up a few more of those too :)
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beautiful work...
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Well, that is the kind of indulgence we can all put up with!
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Wonderful modelling and painting! The casualty tutorial was interesting, and the principles can obviously be applied to pretty much any setting. The poses of your figures are lifeless (a compliment!). And painted up by you they are appropriately unsettling.
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It's been a long time, so I'm going to crave your indulgence and re-show the pics of that grisly little diorama again.
Oh thank you, kind sir. A lovely diorama that. :-*
Up to that point in my life I had no idea how utterly devastating that hammer could be in warfare. And just the other day I was watching Robin Hood, played by Russel Crowe, and sure enough in the final battle I noted he was carrying one of those:
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic01.nyt.com%2Fimages%2F2010%2F05%2F09%2Farts%2F09ridley_CA2%2F09ridley_CA2-articleLarge.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
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I don't know much about medieval stuff, but isn't the 12th Century a tad early for war hammers? I was given to understand that their emergence was a response to the introduction of plate armour. Oh, Hollywood...
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I don't know much about medieval stuff, but isn't the 12th Century a tad early for war hammers? I was given to understand that their emergence was a response to the introduction of plate armour. Oh, Hollywood...
Yes, in the West. But obviously not by the time of the Wars of the Roses where defeating full harness was paramount on the battlefield. :)
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There are pictures too, O He With The Attention Span Of A Gnat With Attention Deficit Disorder.
(Some people find explanations HELPFUL James ::) lol)
lol lol
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I don't know much about medieval stuff, but isn't the 12th Century a tad early for war hammers? I was given to understand that their emergence was a response to the introduction of plate armour. Oh, Hollywood...
I think you're right Dylan. That was pretty terrible movie though, in a number of ways lol
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Oh, Hollywood...
You Brits should be used to that by now, surely. ;) :D
I mentioned it not because it was so good, but because I don't think I have ever seen a movie where the main character was carrying a hammer.
Is there any other?
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I mentioned it not because it was so good, but because I don't think I have ever seen a movie where the main character was carrying a hammer.
Is there any other?
Thor ;)
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Dammit Cap, that little base is so good. I'm inspired now to also do casualty/fleeing type models.
Odd isn't it, how the war hammer has become so Warhammer (TM) in the hobby, with dirty great lumps of iron the size of an anvil being merrily wielded about. I like the idea of realistic looking weapons of a more realistic proportion (although a little exaggerated, because actual proportions look tiny sometimes) on models. I also like the idea of more fighting men using primary weapons such as war hammers, maces, axes, spears, etc.. rather than swords.
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Fantastic stuff!
I mentioned it not because it was so good, but because I don't think I have ever seen a movie where the main character was carrying a hammer.
Is there any other?
I find Braveheart's historical manglings and dreadful costuming too painful for a rewatch, but I seem to dimly recall Mel Gibson wielding a teetering-on-the-edge-of-anachronism warhammer in one scene.
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Fantastic stuff!
I find Braveheart's historical manglings and dreadful costuming too painful for a rewatch, but I seem to dimly recall Mel Gibson wielding a teetering-on-the-edge-of-anachronism warhammer in one scene.
I try not to ever conjure up images of that film lol
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I find Braveheart's historical manglings and dreadful costuming too painful for a rewatch, but I seem to dimly recall Mel Gibson wielding a teetering-on-the-edge-of-anachronism warhammer in one scene.
You're right!
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(I draw the line at severed limbs lying around)
"It is just a flesh wound!"
More seriously, I have started putting together some similar casualty markers (for use in other games), though lacking confidence in my conversion skills I have so far resorted to the metal casualty pack that the Perrys produce, plus the couple of wounded guys (very melancholic looking) that come with one of their metal carts. I intend to supplement these with a similar number of bases that do not have casualties on them, but only miscellanous abandoned equipment from the bits box (pavises, bucklers, barrels, arrow bags, helmets, broken pikes, axes, hammers, scabbards, polearms, crossbows etc.) that have been abandoned for some reason or another by their owners.
That said, the metal casualty pack only contains one man-at-arms lying down (I have snatched the walking wounded guy with escort to use as rear rank filler in actual unit), and I have some spare men-at-arms still at sprues (that Foot Knights boxis rather plentiful), so I might eventually try a few such conversions next year. Going to wait and see first how your figures look when actually painted up.
On another note, anybody familiar with horse casualties that would look good with these Perry figures?
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On another note, anybody familiar with horse casualties that would look good with these Perry figures?
i wish! I'd love it if the Perrys released a couple more WOTR casualty packs, including horses.... but that's not gonna happen, and there would arguably be more important gaps in the range to fill if they ever did return to it.
You could make some from the plastic horses with a bit of cutting and bending, but to do a proper job you'd also have to make some stirrups for them too....
Wargames Foundry have a set of horse casualties, I'm not sure what period they are accurate for though, and I reckon they'd be much too small. I'd be interested in seeing them alongside Perry WOTR figures though, if anyone has them?
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I made up this one by just altering the horses legs by cutting and plugging the gaps with greenstuff at the front and adding a greenstuff saddle and stirrups.
It's actually an eBob horse (the sort that Artizan, Crusader, Gripping Beast,1st Corp and others use) which is very similar to the Perry metal horses so the same could be done with either types. It took a bit of work but I'm happy with the end result.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-S1Aaox9sQh0/XqLNzyStmqI/AAAAAAABDVI/4ml5ohx1feYjSGglIUJC8Zp6sVyAQAwZwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/SPANISH%2BKNIGHTS%2BCLOSE%2BUPS%2B4A.jpg)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RC3Q_f_LCWU/XqLN0q0DRdI/AAAAAAABDVM/cvQ5NFMmfjAc1DM-If2JpQ3L55kfNRBjACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/SPANISH%2BKNIGHTS%2BCLOSE%2BUPS%2B4B.jpg)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-v3rGvqwcN0M/XqLN1DyxT0I/AAAAAAABDVQ/IRc0_OoQ224DjyTzwq6Bb2YI1dDW7378gCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/SPANISH%2BKNIGHTS%2BCLOSE%2BUPS%2B4C.jpg)
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Wargames Foundry have a set of horse casualties, I'm not sure what period they are accurate for though, and I reckon they'd be much too small. I'd be interested in seeing them alongside Perry WOTR figures though, if anyone has them?
I have seen those, but they look very stiff and unconvincing - and there seems to be just two poses.
Atheling's diorama looks full of action, but I am rather looking for a horse (plus possibly rider) that has already fallen down and stopped kicking around. Something like the Norman cavalry casualty from the Conquest Games Norman cavalry set, that figure seems like something that I would be interested in - the horse seems very natural and convincing (at least in the pictures), even though it is apparently a single piece plastic model. Unfortunately the rider would look a bit old-fashioned in 15th century western Europe.
As for converting the plastic Perry horses, I guess it would be feasible to do one that is about to fall down and has thrown away the rider, but doing an actually fallen horse with a bit of cutting sounds beyond my skills. As is sculpting one from scratch - though thanks to the Perrys I have lots of spare horse heads that could be used as a basis.
Of course it could be possible to suggest the topic of horse casualties to some manufacturer (e.g. Steel Fist, who tend to be close match for Perrys), but the commercial demand might just not be out there; at the moment I don't really see myself as being likely to purchase more than six such casualties (and that is on assumption that there would be 2 or 3 different poses).
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Ugh!
I could never do horse casualties. My wife and I are enormous animal lovers. Even if it is just a miniature, the thought of looking at a dead horse on the table... never happen.
Having said that... there are plenty who do. Just DuckDuckGo (https://duckduckgo.com/) it.
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I think it would be pretty easy to turn one of the Perry plastic medieval horses into a fallen steed. I might have a crack at that (sorry Ray!) Guess it would make more sense for use as a ‘daunted’ marker for cavalry units :)
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I have seen those, but they look very stiff and unconvincing - and there seems to be just two poses.
Atheling's diorama looks full of action, but I am rather looking for a horse (plus possibly rider) that has already fallen down and stopped kicking around.
Griefbringer, Crusader do one in a set in their Norman range below but it has 11th C tack.....
Available here:
https://www.crusaderminiatures.com/prod.php?prod=148 (https://www.crusaderminiatures.com/prod.php?prod=148)
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-v6ihgib9Plw/VQggKGjD5WI/AAAAAAAATSw/uCZBD3hiY7M/s1600/MountedMilitesunit3closeup3.jpg)
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I have seen those, but they look very stiff and unconvincing - and there seems to be just two poses.
Atheling's diorama looks full of action, but I am rather looking for a horse (plus possibly rider) that has already fallen down and stopped kicking around. Something like the Norman cavalry casualty from the Conquest Games Norman cavalry set, that figure seems like something that I would be interested in - the horse seems very natural and convincing (at least in the pictures), even though it is apparently a single piece plastic model. Unfortunately the rider would look a bit old-fashioned in 15th century western Europe.
As for converting the plastic Perry horses, I guess it would be feasible to do one that is about to fall down and has thrown away the rider, but doing an actually fallen horse with a bit of cutting sounds beyond my skills. As is sculpting one from scratch - though thanks to the Perrys I have lots of spare horse heads that could be used as a basis.
Of course it could be possible to suggest the topic of horse casualties to some manufacturer (e.g. Steel Fist, who tend to be close match for Perrys), but the commercial demand might just not be out there; at the moment I don't really see myself as being likely to purchase more than six such casualties (and that is on assumption that there would be 2 or 3 different poses).
Yes, that's exactly what I'd like to see.
The Perry metal WOTR horses could be used though, as you could just bend the legs to get them into a suitable pose - there is one I'm thinking of that comes in the three 'scurrers' sets that would work nicely. But you'd have to sculpt stirrups and the rear part of the saddle yourself, and they are slightly smaller than the plastic horses if that matters.
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Brilliant markers, Richard. It reminds me of that it was suggested for The Build Something Contest that we should do markers for theme. Seeing yours I think it would be more suitable as a theme round for Lead Painters League.
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Nice conversion work Richard. 8)
Regarding horse casualties, back in 2012 Admiral Benbow did some cracking work on converting the Perry plastic horses, including to create casualties.
There’s a WIP thread here....
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=41974.0 (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=41974.0)
.... but IIRC he also made a diorama of a falling horse with a WotR lancer becoming unseated, but I can’t seem to find it.
Edit:
From AB’s Gallery from 2012
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/93_21_05_12_6_41_26_3.jpg)
Which actually seems to have been used in a 13thC model in 2018
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/34/93-100718195137-3422184.jpeg)
Though I’m sure I remember a WotR lancer jumping and/or falling
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Having picked up the new 'Never Mind The Billhooks' rules with WI, if I'm going to give them a go (which I am), I'll need some suitable 'daunted' and 'disarrayed' markers - having a peculiar OCD hang-up about NOT having coloured plastic/printed tokens sharing my tabletop with nicely painted figures and terrain.
It has nothing to do with OCD. It is a question about being raised a decent human being!
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(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-310820134050-480351385.jpeg)
Chap to the lower right seems to have had a particular rough day. To add insult to injury his gear has been nicked.
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Poor sod. March thirteen thousand miles from Natal to England only to get knocked on the head and lose all your stuff. :)
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Poor sod. March thirteen thousand miles from Natal to England only to get knocked on the head and lose all your stuff. :)
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Poor sod. March thirteen thousand miles from Natal to England only to get knocked on the head and lose all your stuff. :)
He ran, RAN thirteen thousand miles and then fought a battle at the end of it!
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He ran, RAN thirteen thousand miles and then fought a battle at the end of it!
Like a Boss!
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He must of done a bit of swimming at some point as well as running, marching etc :D
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He ran, RAN thirteen thousand miles and then fought a battle at the end of it!
lol Well he's not running any more. No longer a Zulu, but a dead bricklayer from Bridgenorth, fallen in some bloody meadow...
So here are the four dead newbies painted and decorated, to provide 'daunted' markers for 'Billhooks'...
I've eschewed the blood and gore on these figures. I think it's enough that they're dead. Or sleeping. Awkwardly.
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-050920115516-48073271.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-050920115516-480721842.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-050920115516-480701253.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-050920115516-480711122.jpeg)
I've also slightly refurbed the original three I made about 10 (?) years ago, when the first box of Perry plastic WOTR figures appeared... Here they all are together:
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-050920115516-480742127.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-050920120014-480751046.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-050920120014-480762392.jpeg)
Reckon I need another three to be on the safe side... More soon...
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Excellent stuff :-* :-* :-*
I love the kit bashed 'Zulu'. It very much reminds me of the forensic facial reconstruction from one on the skeletons found at the Towton Hall site.
I think the team added hair eventually ???
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Very exciting stuff. Makes all games better! Markers are always great and you made them better
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Really wonderful!
Now THAT is how to sell the 'no card tokens and chits' philosophy.
By the way, for some reason, 'Bridgnorth' does not have an 'e' in it. I have complained about this to Shropshire Council at some length and asked them to get one, but they don't listen. :)
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Amazing work!
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What they said, fantastic work all round - the posing, the painting, all of it.
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Thanks :)
Really wonderful!
Now THAT is how to sell the 'no card tokens and chits' philosophy.
By the way, for some reason, 'Bridgnorth' does not have an 'e' in it. I have complained about this to Shropshire Council at some length and asked them to get one, but they don't listen. :)
Aha! I stand corrected :) Thanks, Welsh Borders correspondent!
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Cracking work :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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I especially like the new ones, I think they actually look more realistic without the gore. 8)
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Great work on those. :-* :-* :-*
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Excellent kitbashing, really! <3
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Nicely done, sir.
The dead have never looked better.
8) 8)
Now THAT is how to sell the 'no card tokens and chits' philosophy.
It certainly beats a nice shiny fluorescent plastic token, dice or piece of cardboard any day!
:)
I especially like the new ones, I think they actually look more realistic without the gore. 8)
I concur.
Gore can be seriously over-rated.
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The dead really brings life to a battlefield. For a long time I have been wanting to make markers of casualties where close combats have been fought, to kind of help tell the story of a battle. This might have given me the final push.
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The dead really brings life to a battlefield.
Interesting concept. For my money, the thing they bring is death. lol
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Very impressive work.
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The dead really brings life to a battlefield. For a long time I have been wanting to make markers of casualties where close combats have been fought, to kind of help tell the story of a battle. This might have given me the final push.
I agree. I tend to use casualty figures as ‘shock’ markers but I’d like to use them to show the story as well.
And those WotR casualties are very nice - the partly stripped figure is an excellent idea.
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Thanks gents :)
I was planning on doing a few more, but have just been waylaid by the new Perry Afghans which landed on the doormat today lol
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Thanks gents :)
I was planning on doing a few more, but have just been waylaid by the new Perry Afghans which landed on the doormat today lol
lol lol
BUTTERFLY!!!
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Ambushed by Afghans I am sure it is not the first time that has happened :D
I Will be searching for the thread with the afghans
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I've eschewed the blood and gore on these figures. I think it's enough that they're dead. Or sleeping. Awkwardly.
Agree.
And well done. Yet another awesome addition to an already fantastic collection. :-*
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More beautiful work. Enjoy the Afghans too. :)
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very nice painting on these
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I was planning on doing a few more, but have just been waylaid by the new Perry Afghans which landed on the doormat today
You could try combining the two topics, and convert a few of the Afghans into WotR casualties... though their clothing might be looser than what was in fashion in the late 15th century England.
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Not a bad idea :)
Can't be any stranger than a dead Zulu at Bosworth anyway...
Meanwhile, I've settled on my counters strategy for Never Mind The Billhooks :D
As explained somewhere up above, I'm anal about NOT littering my wargames tabletop with plastic chits and printed counters - nicely done as the printed ephemera for NMTBH is.
So in addition to the battlefield casualties as 'Daunted' markers, I'm going to do discarded battlefield debris as 'Disarray' markers.
I'm also doing arrow supply markers (very much as suggested by Lord Callan in the rules), and order tokens.
These will be on steel repair washers, which I use for all my basing - 40mm (for the dead), 25mm, 20mm, and 15mm respectively.
The wonderful side benefit of having built a couple of hundred Perry plastic Wars of the Roses figures, is that I have a vast collection of spare parts, including several hundred heads which will never otherwise be used. So what a great way of using up some of that spare plastic :)
For the titchy order tokens, I've gone with a single abandoned helmet - these will be murrey-and-blue for York, and blue-and-white for Lancaster (painted helmets were probably a rarity at the time, but hey, nobody knows for sure, so what the hell... ) With white flowers on the York order tokens, and red flowers on the Lancaster ones (Wars of the Roses, see?)
For the 'Disarray' markers, there are many spare parts that can be thrown into the mix to create interesting and varied bases.
On this test piece I've used another sallet helmet, a gauntlet, and a sword in its scabbard. In reality of course, nobody in their right mind would drop an expensive item like a decent sword or helmet (other perhaps, than in a complete panic-stricken rout). But they serve the purpose well enough.
I've pulled out a whole boxful of assorted suitable spare parts - bits of armour cut off redundant bodies or arms (pauldrons will work particularly well for this I think), endless parts of polearms, various pennons and flags, bucklers, cannon balls, broken staves, and so on. Hell, I might even do one with some horse armour :)
For the arrow supply markers, I've just used a sheaf of Perry arrows (the ones from the Agincourt English set will do just as well as these ones from the WOTR set), and made a small micro-dice shaped recess to take the die that indicates the remaining arrow supply.
Luckily, as a one-time avid collector and player of the Pirates collectible card game, I have thousands of these tiny dice in a whole range of colours. (Although to stay true to my mantra of not littering the tabletop with bits of garish plastic, I'll probably just stick to the muted black ones with white spots).
In all cases, the basic manufacturing process is the same... A small mound of Green Stuff applied directly to the metal base; embed the components, make up the surrounding groundwork with paint/sand/PVA mix, spray the whole thing with primer, paint, add tufts. Simples.
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-180920170654-481741789.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-180920170654-4817642.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-180920170655-481772002.jpeg)
And for scale...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-180920170655-481782355.jpeg)
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The different sizes of bases are a really good idea. A kind of visual shorthand so you have less chance of getting what they represent muddled up (which I think I might do if I was using markers of the same size for different purposes, even with different items on said bases knowing me I'd still get in a muddle from time to time).
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Cracking idea and well executed :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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For the arrow supply markers, I've just used a sheaf of Perry arrows (the ones from the Agincourt English set will do just as well as these ones from the WOTR set), and made a small micro-dice shaped recess to take the die that indicates the remaining arrow supply.
Luckily, as a one-time avid collector and player of the Pirates collectible card game, I have thousands of these tiny dice in a whole range of colours. (Although to stay true to my mantra of not littering the tabletop with bits of garish plastic, I'll probably just stick to the muted black ones with white spots).
I use different coloured dice to denote levy, retinue and veterans...
and....they look gorgeous
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I use different coloured dice to denote levy, retinue and veterans...
and....they look gorgeous
Clever! I’m having that lol
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:o :o
Cluttering up your lovely markers with plastic dice!
Not such a snob after all, eh, ya heathen!?!
;D ;D
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Not even gem dice.
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I might paint the dice in earthy tones and add a bit of flock ;)
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I might paint the dice in earthy tones and add a bit of flock ;)
lol
lol
Cover up the ones and twos... ;) lol
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Cover up the ones and twos... ;) lol
If I recall correctly, the 'Dice of Blood' only have ones and twos on them.....
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If I recall correctly, the 'Dice of Blood' only have ones and twos on them.....
:D
Exactly!
You have played wargames with me, Pablo. You know I have no need of sixes and the like 😂
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lol lol lol
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Tsch so disappointed by dice on the table :D
Only teasing - excellent stuff Richard 8)
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Exactly!
You have played wargames with me, Pablo. You know I have no need of sixes and the like 😂
lol lol lol lol Pablo Mason! Wonderful. Remember, Pablo is always the small Mexican boy, who will be shot in the middle of all these spaghetti western from the 60ies and 70ies. I have to steal it, moi capitan. Wonderful. lol lol lol lol
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Neat ideas yet again, I think something similar will work for Clash of Spears rather than their MDF tokens.
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Tsch so disappointed by dice on the table :D
He is going to be very upset then when he visits on Tuesday ---lots of stuff on the table (which will be suitably adorned with a green cloth) lol lol lol lol
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A green cloth? Oh the horror! lol
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A green cloth? Oh the horror! lol
its a special green cloth....not the reverse side of a subbuteo pitch ;)
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its a special green cloth....not the reverse side of a subbuteo pitch ;)
lol
So, you are not going to bother turning it over this time then?
Watch out for Giles playing the offside trap, Ricardo!
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The trouble with embracing a new ruleset, is that the way you've organised your figures up to that point rarely fits the new paradigm...
In the case of 'Never Mind The Bill Hooks', rather like Lion Rampant etc., all the foot figures are in units of 12 or 6 (with the cavalry in 8s).
Unfortunately, my WOTR collection, created over the last decade, has grown organically in multiple factions of differing sizes, each with a mixed retinue of archers, billmen, men-at-arms, horsemen, gunners, crossbowmen, and supernumeraries... Normally, 20 - 30 figures per faction, but in random proportions. This arrangement suited the various homebrew skirmish rules I used to play games with them up to this point, where all figures are armed and fight 'as seen' - so it doesn't matter if you've got seven bowmen, five billmen, and three men at arms in one faction, but five bowmen, eight billmen, and four men at arms in another. And it doesn't matter if some factions are bigger than others - you just have to fight with what you've got. Which adds an element of realism, perhaps :)
Unfortunately though, that doesn't fit more orthodox style wargames rules, where you have six of one type, or twelve of another, regimented in units all of the same sort.
So for NMTBH, I'm having to do some reorganisation and refurbishment of my WOTR forces. Including repurposing (i.e. repainting) a few figures here and there, moving some from one faction to another, and even adding a few newly built ones to bring the numbers up to the required 12s and 6s.
I suppose I could just not have bothered and formed units in mixed liveries (which was probably what happened at the time). But it looks messy. I can cope with a unit half-and-half in two different liveries, but not a unit with several different liveries amongst 12 figures. It just looks wrong... So some rationalisation and tidying is underway.
One of the consequences is that where I had a small number of, say, half a dozen Tudors I'd made up just for fun, those (decorative but essentially useless) small contingents, will now get a change of livery and redistributed to larger factions. It's a pity in some ways, but there it is...
First up, some refurbished Scots mercenary pike (I have no idea if Scots mercenary pike ever actually figured in the WOTR - the Scots largely kept out of it IIRC - but it's possible, and the Scots were certainly well known for their long spears and schiltrons. So I've put two and two together and made a satisfying five!)
Here are the three newbies to make up the numbers. L-R: previously the sole pikeman in my 20-strong band of Flemish mercenaries got a new saltire on his shield; the fellow in the middle is a new build (I figured he could be wearing his dad's HYW-era long gambeson); and the one on the right is one of the aforementioned repurposed Tudors.
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-031020125543-48493406.jpeg)
And the resulting 'new' unit...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-031020125544-484951755.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-031020125544-484961159.jpeg)
I've just done the same thing with my red-and-white liveried Howard longbowmen, who have miraculously jumped from seven figures to twelve, by sacrificing a few one-off bowmen from smaller contingents...
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Ah, the perpetual tweaking lol
How many tweaks have you got to do?
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A lot lol
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They are too handsome to be Scots! ;)
lol
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They are too handsome to be Scots! ;)
lol
Why?? :D
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Why?? :D
Cause they are all barbarians from the north running around without underwear... :D
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.3KFJZomPY2wmcR9BqX2QvAHaHa%26pid%3DApi&f=1)
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Gorgeous work again.
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Ah, come on boys... I was just teasing.
I lived 2 years in Elgin, Scotland next to the Moray Forth by RAF Lossiemouth. I found the Scottish folks to be wonderful people and had a great time there.
More great additions to your collection, Richard! :-*
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I like the mix of the different medieval kits here!
Is the beard on the kettle-hat one sculpted on, or just painted?
Keep up the great work!
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Great work Richard
This is such an inspiring thread that it shouldn't be allowed lol
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Thanks :)
Is the beard on the kettle-hat one sculpted on, or just painted?
It's meant to be a five o'clock shadow - painted on (failed, obviously lol)
Meanwhile...
Have completed some more markers for Never Mind The Billhooks...
Order tokens. Blue and white for Somerset (Lancaster) with red roses (well, sprays of something or other) and murrey and blue for York (white flowers)...
I suspect they didn't really paint their lovely shiny helmets like this, but it's a popular trick amongst us medieval wargamers, and hell, it provides a very immediate visual cue :)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-051020120017-48528502.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-051020120017-485302063.jpeg)
And some more arrow supply markers...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-051020120017-485312195.jpeg)
Shamelessly pinching Eric the shed's cunning plan, will probably use three different coloured micro dice to differentiate the status of longbow units: raw, retinue or veteran.
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-051020120017-485321809.jpeg)
Or, more colourfully (ignoring my own self-imposed rule about not having luridly coloured plastic shit - sorry CHITS - on the tabletop), green for raw (green, geddit?), black for retinue and bloody red for veterans...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-051020120018-485331339.jpeg)
Decisions, decisions... ;)
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Lovely job, Richard. Will really enhance your table.
Though I can't help but share your feeling that the dice skirt dangerously near to flouting your "no plastic or paper tat on the table" rule. Maybe you could carve your own from some knuckle bones or something? ;)
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You could paint the dice.
Or you could have an arrow marker with six drilled holes and six small pegs.
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You could paint the dice.
That’s a good idea. You could paint the dice to match your ground colour and fill the pips with the quality colour.
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That’s a good idea. You could paint the dice to match your ground colour and fill the pips with the quality colour.
An added plus would be that Richard’s dice rolls might improve, if he used a paint with a high lead content on one side only...? ;)
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An added plus would be that Richard’s dice rolls might improve, if he used a paint with a high lead content on one side only...? ;)
Now THAT sounds like a plan >:D lol
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its official news Richard that veteran Longbows can now reroll ones for shooting so there is a point in having them and using different coloured dice :D
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its official news Richard that veteran Longbows can now reroll ones for shooting so there is a point in having them and using different coloured dice :D
Huzzah! :)
It did seem a bit strange to pay to upgrade one's longbows to veteran only so they could fight better in melees (although I can see the sense of it - battle hardened men etc). But it's nice that their core skill gets a benefit too now.
Thanks Giles.
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Andy Callan confirmed the rule amendment - they only get it for shooting and morale NOT Melee..
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You could paint the dice.
Or you could have an arrow marker with six drilled holes and six small pegs.
So the arrow supply dice marker is the number of arrows you have in your quiver (or stuck in the ground, in your belt or whatever)? Meaning that you can have six arrows at the most?
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You made me buy the rules, damn you! That's something, since I have zero interest in the WotR, not to speak of miniatures. Yet. ::)
Totally agree on the use of markers instead of printed chits and multi-purpose markers. It adds so much to the look and feel of a game. Also, according to some specialists like Toby Capwell a lot of armour was painted back in the day, especially to 'enhance' the look of low quality pieces. Wouldn't worry too much then. :)
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So the arrow supply dice marker is the number of arrows you have in your quiver (or stuck in the ground, in your belt or whatever)? Meaning that you can have six arrows at the most?
Exactly. I am thinking of six pieces of cocktail stick in a base and you remove one for each round of shooting.
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Thanks Tilman. It’s a nice little ruleset, I think you’ll like them :)
Thanks for the info on painted helmets. I don’t feel so bad now I know they really were a thing lol
So the arrow supply dice marker is the number of arrows you have in your quiver (or stuck in the ground, in your belt or whatever)? Meaning that you can have six arrows at the most?
Correct Peder. Longbow units have six volleys of arrows to use in the game, and once they’re gone, they’re gone. Given that a unit can shoot twice in a single turn if it wants to, that means archers can use their arrow supply up very fast. I think it’s a neat idea and reflects the fact that longbows were devastating, but could only be used for so long before running out of ammo. Archery was a prelude to the main event (armoured men slugging it out with edged weapons) in battles of the WOTR, it wasn’t a battle winning weapon in its own right (unlike the fabled longbows of Agincourt).
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Thanks Tilman. It’s a nice little ruleset, I think you’ll like them :)
Thanks for the info on painted helmets. I don’t feel so bad now I know they really were a thing lol
Correct Peder. Longbow units have six volleys of arrows to use in the game, and once they’re gone, they’re gone. Given that a unit can shoot twice in a single turn if it wants to, that means archers can use their arrow supply up very fast. I think it’s a neat idea and reflects the fact that longbows were devastating, but could only be used for so long before running out of ammo. Archery was a prelude to the main event (armoured men slugging it out with edged weapons) in battles of the WOTR, it wasn’t a battle winning weapon in its own right (unlike the fabled longbows of Agincourt).
It certainly adds a dimension to the gameplay but not necessarily an added complexity I would wish to have in a larger game. A very tidy way of going about it, those thing with the dice holders.
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Can I add that in the half dozen games we have played less than a quarter of the units have actually used all their volley's. The Archery units tend to retreat behind the better armoured chaps when the rough stuff starts. :D
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Can I add that in the half dozen games we have played less than a quarter of the units have actually used all their volley's. The Archery units tend to retreat behind the better armoured chaps when the rough stuff starts. :D
Yellow bellied good-for-nothings!
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I'm in the process of expanding my retinues of assorted sizes to bring them all up to 12s / 8s / 6s for Never Mind The Billhooks.
So after quite some time (10 years!), I find myself back in the process of building new WOTR infantry - I have around 20 on the go at present, in various stages of kitbashing and painting. Will update this thread as they come off the production line...
First two additions finished - a pair of tough veterans for the retinue of Thomas Howard, Earl of Surrey. I'm now building figures that look like they mean business.
These will be joining my Howard bills (not all my billmen have bills ;))
This pair are hybrids of WOTR infantry and WOTR foot knights parts (for that half-armoured look), with a couple of bits from the other Perry WOTR/HYW sets thrown in for variety...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-241020120455-488811892.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-241020120456-488842004.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-241020120456-488852203.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-241020120456-488862356.jpeg)
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I'm now building figures that look like they mean business.
They look pretty menacing to me! They seem to be... at the point of attack.
Beautiful minis. :-*
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Noice :D
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They look great, nice kitbashes! And that one Agincourt archer head is always great for a suitably brutal infantryman! lol
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Great minis :-*
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The project that keeps on giving. Great looking additions!
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Oh wow. I thought the constant stream of such high quality figures might begin to lose its impact one day, as we became accustomed to it and blasé about it.
Not an effing chance! I'm as blown away by these as I was the first time I saw Richard's work here, many years ago. Just love 'em.
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Cracking stuff, Riccardo!
I particularly like the mush on the un-helmeted chap.
8) 8)
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Excellent!
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Lovely :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
is the heraldry hand painted?
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Thanks lads :)
Lovely :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
is the heraldry hand painted?
It is, Colin. Nice and simple, the Howard crucifix (thankfully!)
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The new additions are a bit lovely.
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Super smashing ;D
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Lovely additions :)
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Predictably superb!
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Wonderful! When do they enter a field?
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Thanks fellows. Much appreciated. Plenty more on the way ::) 8)
Wonderful! When do they enter a field?
When I've done the next 15 or so, Dirk lol
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Thanks fellows. Much appreciated. Plenty more on the way ::) 8)
When I've done the next 15 or so, Dirk lol
Paint faster! Giles lost his last game and is a weak opponent in the moment. ;)
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As mentioned up above, I’m currently expanding my long-established WOTR retinues to form larger units for 'Never Mind The Billhooks'.
My very first Perry WOTR retinue (all those years ago!) was for the DeBrassey’s of Tandridge – a local ‘big’ family of the time.
I decided on an orange and blue livery (or tawney et azure for the cognoscenti) on the strength of a small plaque on the wall of a local church. I’ve picked a lot of my wargames heraldry this way ;)
I recently noticed however, that a banner included in one of the Perry medieval sets was the very same tawney and blue - for the Duke of Norfolk.
I was surprised because I always thought the Mowbray crest was a white lion rampant on a red field (‘Kingmaker’ again, see). However, it turns out that was John Mowbray, 3rd Duke of Norfolk (d. 1461, shortly after – although not because of - the Battle of Towton).
Not to be confused with his son, also John Mowbray, but the 4th Duke of Norfolk, who retained the white lion, but on tawney and blue field.
Quite why junior didn’t just stick with the established family livery of red, I don’t know. (Nor indeed, why another banner in one of the other Perry plastic sets - also a white lion rampant on a tawney and blue field - is given as the Earl of Derby. Because the Earls of Derby throughout the late medieval period were Stanleys, not Mowbrays… And this bears no resemblance to the livery of the Stanleys…)
Sigh. It’s all very confusing, and this is why I originally left the major houses of the WOTR alone, and focused on building retinues for small, local magnates instead…
However, since Michael was kind enough to include that standard in one of his kits, it seems rude not to use it. So for the purposes of NMTBH, I’m going to reconstitute my DeBrasseys as Mowbrays (they'll still serve as DeBrasseys for my smaller local skirmish games). This involves adding half a dozen more billmen, and half a dozen more longbowmen. Plus the banners.
First up, here’s John Mowbray, 4th Duke of Norfolk, on foot (a Steel Fist figure) along with his standard bearer, and a couple of Perry plastic hard nuts – his personal bodyguard perhaps.
I have a few more of these to do, to bring me up to a unit of 12 veteran billmen.
The banner is the Perry paper one, with a little retouching here and there.
Also shown, another disarray marker I knocked up at the same time...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-271020152849-48934952.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-271020152849-489351997.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/577-271020152849-48936721.jpeg)
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Very nice but you know it would be easier to make it all up lol
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Very nice but you know it would be easier to make it all up lol
Drawn from the list of well known comedians and light entertainers of the 70s and 80s? ;) lol
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lol
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Drawn from the list of well known comedians and light entertainers of the 70s and 80s? ;) lol
It's been done already ;) lol
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Other themes are available.
Footballers from the 60s & 70s. That would be the BEST.
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Gorgeous!
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Lovely additions to the collection Richard :-*
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Nice work 8)
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Beautiful painting! They will look superb on the tabletop, especially with that impressive standard. I am not an expert on the Period - were they really that large?
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My Mo
Footballers from the 60s & 70s. That would be the BEST.
The characters in my Mordheim warband are all named after Springboks. :)
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Gorgeous as always.
And as I’m trying to paint some Stanley’s at the moment I share your frustration with liveries, badges and arms!!
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My very first Perry WOTR retinue (all those years ago!) was for the DeBrassey’s of Tandridge – a local ‘big’ family of the time.
I decided on an orange and blue livery (or tawney et azure for the cognoscenti) on the strength of a small plaque on the wall of a local church. I’ve picked a lot of my wargames heraldry this way ;)
I like this, pujtting a bit of local history into your games.
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Footballers from the 60s & 70s. That would be the BEST.
The characters in my Mordheim warband are all named after Springboks. :)
Good try!
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The Sikh soldiers in my Congo project are all named after Punjabi cricketers. ;D
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Beautiful painting! They will look superb on the tabletop, especially with that impressive standard. I am not an expert on the Period - were they really that large?
I guess so :)
All the banners and flag sheets for 28mm figures from a range of different manufacturers seem to be sized like this. This large, swallowtail job is the personal standard of the lord concerned, with his full livery emblazoned. Companies of men in his pay or under his command would have used smaller, square flags, bearing just his principal motif on his house colours.
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A couple more mini modelling / kitbashing projects for NMTBH underway...
First, a model to represent the 'hidden ditch' special event... It's obviously not all that hidden really, but I'm going for the look of the Cock Beck after Towton, choked with unfortunate Lancastrians...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-301020142306-49043843.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-301020142306-490442192.jpeg)
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Next, to complement my battlefield casualty 'Daunted' markers, I thought I'd do a couple for mounted companies...
'Chiswick, fresh horses!!!' ;)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-301020142414-490471810.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-301020142306-490461170.jpeg)
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Wow, you are coming to a point of modelling the Perrys never expected with their plastics. Did they know, what wonderful level you reached, moi capitan? Wonderful and really not seen before. Go on an I beg at the Perrys for ECW-Plastics.
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Imaginative work Richard 8)
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I hope you stamped on the casualties as it used to be done with metals lol
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A couple more mini modelling / kitbashing projects for NMTBH underway...
First, a model to represent the 'hidden ditch' special event... It's obviously not all that hidden really, but I'm going for the look of the Cock Beck after Towton, choked with unfortunate Lancastrians...
I guess that a natural accidents in the terrain doesn’t need to be that formidable to turn the table on what was very physical fights…
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Nice 8)
Is that filler with sand that you have used to create the ditch Richard or the acrylic medium basing stuff?
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Nice 8)
Is that filler with sand that you have used to create the ditch Richard or the acrylic medium basing stuff?
Thanks Darrell. It’s just a rolled snake of Green Stuff, with a generous helping of my usual ‘gloop’ on top (a mix of sand, PVA, emulsion, and a bit of fine model railway grit).
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Excellent work!
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Thanks Darrell. It’s just a rolled snake of Green Stuff, with a generous helping of my usual ‘gloop’ on top (a mix of sand, PVA, emulsion, and a bit of fine model railway grit).
Cheers Richard. I'm always trying top glean as much as I can re: terrain making and who knows, one day I might actually build up the courage to do it! :o
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Pretty cool stuff, Richard.
Never thought I would ever say that, but those plastic kits are a real blessing :D
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A couple more mini modelling / kitbashing projects for NMTBH underway...
First, a model to represent the 'hidden ditch' special event... It's obviously not all that hidden really, but I'm going for the look of the Cock Beck after Towton, choked with unfortunate Lancastrians...
Not being familiar with the rules... what happens with the "hidden ditch" event?
A guess: A ditch opens up and everyone in it dies. Kinda like a black hole, but obviously not as big. ;)
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Not being familiar with the rules... what happens with the "hidden ditch" event?
A guess: A ditch opens up and everyone in it dies. Kinda like a black hole, but obviously not as big. ;)
It appears to just pop up! It's actually an event card (you had probably guessed as much), the idea being that it just wasn't visible from the enemies starting position.
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Understood. My question being more of what impact does it play on the game? I'm guessing that crossing it can disorder troops, but who knows... maybe everyone with a 12 inch radius dies! ;)
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Understood. My question being more of what impact does it play on the game? I'm guessing that crossing it can disorder troops, but who knows... maybe everyone with a 12 inch radius dies! ;)
It just acts as a barrier. If you watch the sample game Wargames Illustrated game featuring Steve and Andy you will see that it blocked a cavalry charge from hitting a unit to which they would, dice willing, have dealt out death and misery :)
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Very, very well done, Richard! It is the sort of thing which, paradoxically, make the gameboard come alive.
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Nice crack, Sir!
8) ;)
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Thanks fellows :)
Nice crack, Sir!
8) ;)
All my best modelling looks like that ;)
Understood. My question being more of what impact does it play on the game? I'm guessing that crossing it can disorder troops, but who knows... maybe everyone with a 12 inch radius dies! ;)
Here you go, Ray :)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-011120151541.jpeg)
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Here you go, Ray :)
Thanks, Richard! That makes a lot of sense.
Very creative event, sure to add some flavor to a game should it come to be.
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All my best modelling looks like that ;)
lol lol
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Very nice markers !
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Very, very well done, Richard! It is the sort of thing which, paradoxically, make the gameboard come alive.
Thank you, Peder :)
Here's the finished piece.
(I bet that bloody special event card will never come up in my games now lol)
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Very skilful - well done :-*
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Tufty :D
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Their really up the creek. :D
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Fantastic result!
The bright-orange Oxford livery on the unfortunate chaps in the sludge definitely helps it stand out as a marker as well!
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(I bet that bloody special event card will never come up in my games now lol)
Isn't that the way such things work! ;)
But if it does come up, it will look wonderful on your table. :-*
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Fabulous, absolutely fabulous!
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Beautiful! :-*
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Relly nice work!
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Well worth the wait :-*
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Gruesome sight but an interesting battlefield feature and very well executed.
Consider it saved for inspiration. :)
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Outstanding piece of painting and scenery, like it very much.
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That's the nicest hole in the ground I've seen in a while!
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What a great idea, I will be stealing that!
Cheers
Matt
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What a cracking drainage problem to have.
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Thanks gents.
I do enjoy a bit of modelling :)
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Really eye catching work Richard...I haven’t used the rules yet, but I’d still be tempted to add something similar to the tabletop, just because it adds to the whole impression of the tabletop.
8)
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That’s a very effective piece. 8)
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Quite a macabre and gruesome scene. To die in a ditch full of indignity. Love it!
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Nice piece of model terrain Richard,are there any other special event cards in the game that you could create and that we could look forward to seeing? :)
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Thanks all :)
Nice piece of model terrain Richard,are there any other special event cards in the game that you could create and that we could look forward to seeing? :)
Cheers Keith. No, most of the other special events are things like 'treachery', 'truce', 'ambush' or 'sudden rain shower' (bad for longbows) etc.
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Thanks all :)
Cheers Keith. No, most of the other special events are things like 'treachery', 'truce', 'ambush' or 'sudden rain shower' (bad for longbows) etc.
Thanks Richard,shame about that :(
Just a thought,how about a herald and a standard bearer carrying a white flag for truce? :),you could always keep a watering can handy for sudden shower of rain cards! ;)
Keep up the good work :)
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There are a couple more that I made items for. First up, there's Fauconbergs Gambit;
(https://arcanesceneryandmodels.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/2020-09-28-19.29.49.jpg)
and Extra Arrow supply:
(https://arcanesceneryandmodels.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/2020-10-17-16.07.19.jpg)
(https://arcanesceneryandmodels.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/2020-10-24-16.53.41.jpg)
But I am a bit obsessed!
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They look good!👍
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I too was thinking someone waving a white flag for 'Truce'
But also, how about:-
Noble being stabbed in the back = Treachery
Puddles with rain 'dimples' in = Sudden rain
Bush with an arm holding a bow sticking out of it = Ambush.
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I too was thinking someone waving a white flag for 'Truce'
But also, how about:-
Noble being stabbed in the back = Treachery
Puddles with rain 'dimples' in = Sudden rain
Bush with an arm holding a bow sticking out of it = Ambush.
All good suggestions 👍
However,careful we don't hijack the good Captain's thread! :)
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very nice markers
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lol. No worries.
Great models Steve, I think those two certainly are worth making models for, although for the ditch, it’s really necessary. I do love the chap with the wheelbarrow of arrow bags.
Obsessions are what wargamers thrive on ;)
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Did you explain how you done the water?
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Lovely :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Did you explain how you done the water?
Thanks Colin.
It’s simply yacht varnish over paint :)
I’ve had too many failures over the years using model railway scenic ‘water’ products. These days I stick to the tried and tested low tech solution ;)
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Excellent work on these vignettes, they make a great difference to games
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Wonderful! At the end of the year you will show us the 1:1-Table of the last battle of the WotR with all the figures, right? I think it were only 10.000 against 10.000, more than the half did you paint the last weeks, Richard. :D
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Cheers Stuart and Dirk :)
Meanwhile, I've finished off a couple more Daunted markers - a HYW version (for reasons which will become apparent in the fullness of time) and an equestrian token for use with daunted cavalry companies! (Yes, it's another fallen De Vere... The poor old Earl of Oxford is losing men fast lol)
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These look great. Your painting is always so nice and crisp!
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Exquisite, as usual, Sir!
Even the dead look great in the House of Blood.
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...a HYW version (for reasons which will become apparent in the fullness of time)....
Medieval Zombie Apocalypse!
Coz ya know ya want to!
;D ;D
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Lovely additions Richard 8)
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Lovely additions to an outstanding collection, every addition is a thing of beauty. Bravo
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those really are lovely
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Medieval Zombie Apocalypse!
They certainly look like they could get up at any moment. Fantastic as always.
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Wonderful markers! The twisted body of the infantry man is frighteningly realistic.
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So sad to see that quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys being crushed under his horse. ;)
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Lovely painting.
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Thanks lads.
So sad to see that quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys being crushed under his horse. ;)
lol
Ah, thats their badge too is it? The de Vere’s will be spinning in their family crypt ;)
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Thanks lads.
lol
Ah, thats their badge too is it? The de Vere’s will be spinning in their family crypt ;)
At least those that now lie dormant.... ;)
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Lovely :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Not sure that is the right way to describe dead people thought, don't know what else to say :D
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Gorgeous markers and that ditch is to die for!
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Thank you gents :)
Finished a few more Mowbray tough-nut billmen...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-151120144200-492842381.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-151120144200-49286978.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-151120144200-492851186.jpeg)
John Mowbray, 12th Duke of Norfolk, and his personal guard...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-151120144201-49287388.jpeg)
And by roping in some deBrasseys in the same parti-coloured blue-and-tawney livery, I can now field a full strength 12-figure Mowbray 'bill' company for NMTBH...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-151120144200-49283131.jpeg)
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Splendidly bright and beautiful! :-*
Where did you get the unit tray, Richard?
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Gorgeous Mowbray bill unit.
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Thank you :)
Splendidly bright and beautiful! :-*
Where did you get the unit tray, Richard?
Thanks Ray.
The movement tray is homemade. I’ve made a lot of these down the years - I have about 30 of them, although now I need to make some more in 12’s, like this one. Most of my existing trays are in 10’s for foot, 6’s for horse. But all the rules I’ve been playing recently seem to be 12’s ::)
I’m afraid, being a fussy and fastidious git, I can’t stick MDF movement trays with a sodding great step up from the surface of the terrain (it’s the same reason I hate slotta bases). You might as well put your beautifully painted figures on lumps of cheese and move them around on your beautifully crafted terrain. Visually intrusive, aesthetically displeasing. Just IMHO obviously :)
The long dead ‘how to’ thread is here: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=26058.msg316910#msg316910
I expanded on this for an article in Wargames Soldiers and Strategy magazine a few years later.
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The long dead ‘how to’ thread is here: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=26058.msg316910#msg316910
Thanks, Richard. I remember now! ::)
I'm thinking on these lines to represent forest for my FPW project.
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Beautiful all around- I particularly love the crisply painted studs on the armor :)
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very nice indeed :-*
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Thanks chaps :)
Beautiful all around- I particularly love the crisply painted studs on the armor :)
Thanks Matt.
Many people who make and paint these Perry plastics seem happy to ignore the studs on the figures wearing brigandines, citing the 'life's too short' defence.
Don't really understand why TBH, because touching in the studs is simplicity itself and really makes those particular figures pop, as you've noticed.
A fine point brush, a touch of metallic paint, and then 'plip, plip, plip' right across the figure, front and back - just one tiny touch with the silver or gold on each stud, and that's it. Honestly, it takes no more than a minute or two on each figure, and the effect is transformational. It's a much quicker, easier, and more immediately satisfying painting job than many of the other aspects of painting these models lol
But each to their own ;)
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They look so good :-*
You’re right about the studs!
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Thanks chaps :)
Thanks Matt.
Many people who make and paint these Perry plastics seem happy to ignore the studs on the figures wearing brigandines, citing the 'life's too short' defence.
Don't really understand why TBH, because touching in the studs is simplicity itself and really makes those particular figures pop, as you've noticed.
A fine point brush, a touch of metallic paint, and then 'plip, plip, plip' right across the figure, front and back - just one tiny touch with the silver or gold on each stud, and that's it. Honestly, it takes no more than a minute or two on each figure, and the effect is transformational. It's a much quicker, easier, and more immediately satisfying painting job than many of the other aspects of painting these models lol
But each to their own ;)
Ok, fine, i'll do it! I've got a batch of Perrys sitting on my desk right now all basecoated, and one wears a brigandine. I'll have a go dotting in the studs in silver before I go to the wash stage!
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Ok, fine, i'll do it! I've got a batch of Perrys sitting on my desk right now all basecoated, and one wears a brigandine. I'll have a go dotting in the studs in silver before I go to the wash stage!
I use acrylic gel silver pens. Much easier to 'dot'.
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I use acrylic gel silver pens. Much easier to 'dot'.
Hmm, perhaps I should look into that. Got a link?
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Ok, fine, i'll do it!
lol
I wasn't thinking of you specifically, Charlie. I've noticed from the many people now posting pics of their Perry plastic creations on the NMTBH Fb group, that most people don't seem to bother. Which is a shame, because it's not difficult, nor even particularly time-consuming, and it does make the figures look much prettier. (I find it quite therapeutic actually, dotting brigandine studs ;))
Mind you, I've also noticed that many people don't even bother cleaning off the (admittedly faint but noticeable) mould lines, which I find somewhat heart-breaking lol
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lol
I wasn't thinking of you specifically, Charlie. I've noticed from the many people now posting pics of their Perry plastic creations on the NMTBH Fb group, that most people don't seem to bother. Which is a shame, because it's not difficult, nor even particularly time-consuming, and it does make the figures look much prettier. (I find it quite therapeutic actually, dotting brigandine studs ;))
Mind you, I've also noticed that many people don't even bother cleaning off the (admittedly faint but noticeable) mould lines, which I find somewhat heart-breaking lol
Yeah though I haven't yet painted any brigandine studs, I do get 'frustrated' when people don't paint any of the belts and straps on the armour!
I find different parts of the figure deserve more time than others. I do the hands and faces in LOTS of stages, whereas the legs I often just do a flat colour with a dark wash. Often a dark grey. I want the attention to be drawn to the face, not distracted by fancy trousers!
But yeah perhaps I can be persuaded that brigandines deserve a little extra effort.
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lol
I wasn't thinking of you specifically, Charlie. I've noticed from the many people now posting pics of their Perry plastic creations on the NMTBH Fb group, that most people don't seem to bother. Which is a shame, because it's not difficult, nor even particularly time-consuming, and it does make the figures look much prettier. (I find it quite therapeutic actually, dotting brigandine studs ;))
Mind you, I've also noticed that many people don't even bother cleaning off the (admittedly faint but noticeable) mould lines, which I find somewhat heart-breaking lol
Guilty as charged on both counts :D
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Guilty as charged on both counts :D
Oh GILES! ::) :'(
lol
But you do have millions of figures ;)
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and if i dotted every stud I would never finish...
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lol
I do understand Giles. It's taken me around 10 years to paint 300 or so Perry WOTR figures (in amongst many other things, to be fair). It took you about three weeks to paint about 800! There are going to be compromises somewhere. Different strokes.
However, there are some miscreants who paint relatively small numbers of figures, and then show them off, who still don't bother to clean up the mould lines. Which is inexplicable to me. But there you go...
I just add it to my list of 'things I will never understand about some wargamers'. (Like the ads for figures you used to see in wargaming magazines (and probably still do), where some of the figures being thus expensively promoted have horribly bent bayonets! Are these people blind? Are they mad? lol)
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God, I just love your colours. :-* :-* :-*
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That’s a fantastic group :-*
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I use acrylic gel silver pens. Much easier to 'dot'.
Hmm, perhaps I should look into that. Got a link?
No link, just go to (in the UK) Poundland, The Range, Wilco, Family Bargains, The Works etc. etc.
I tend to pick up several at a time, especially around Christmas time. They often come with
silver and gold pens. Both are useful, sword hilts, blades, metallic highlights, jewellery etc.
I also have a pack of various coloured metallic pens (mine came from the Works shop) which
I find very useful on Fantasy & Sci-Fi figures.
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One more Howard veteran billman finished...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-281120120554-49475504.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-281120120442-494722124.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-281120120554-494741116.jpeg)
He joins his recently finished chums...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-281120120554-49473360.jpeg)
To complete that reconstituted 12-man unit for 'Never Mind The Bill Hooks'.
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-281120120442-494711310.jpeg)
Also, three more disarray markers finished...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-281120120441-494681410.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-281120120442-494691826.jpeg)
And the set so far...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-281120120442-49470855.jpeg)
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Class...as always...stunning work
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Fantastic stuff. The new billman in particular is a lovely pose/job.
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Nice 8)
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I always look at the pictures in this thread and think "Wow! I wish I could paint like that..." So good and- seemingly to me- so fast.
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Superb as always, that's a gorgeous red on the Howards :-*
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Love the reds on those Howards, and those disarray markers are just :-*
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Wonderful :-*
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More stunning paint jobs :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Love the broken lance :-*
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Grand.
Inspiration to keep me going. Painting has been rather difficult for me lately. However, stuff like this really makes me want to keep at it. I've always felt it's good to have something to aspire to, even if you can't quite get there yourself. :)
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I'll eco every one else, those look great and I like the casualty markers.
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A fine point brush, a touch of metallic paint, and then 'plip, plip, plip' right across the figure, front and back - just one tiny touch with the silver or gold on each stud, and that's it. Honestly, it takes no more than a minute or two on each figure....
Easy for you to do lol lol
I find I hate that aspect of WotR figures more than any other.
Beautiful figures as always and the attention to detail on the Disarray markers is excellent.
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Thank you everyone :)
Easy for you to do lol lol
Believe, you must... lol
(Honestly, it's just a dot of paint on each stud. You just need a 10/0 brush, sir!)
Now here's the next augmented unit brought up to 12 for Billhooks...
Three brand new longbowmen for Sir Robert Tenchley of Staffhurst, including a new banner...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-011220204813-495201135.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-011220204813-495221672.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-011220205033.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-011220204813-49513550.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-011220204813-49519235.jpeg)
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dashing, and ready for a 1930s technicolor pageant. :D
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Looking very nice! Silly question but how do you paint your Murrey? it looks great!
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Damn! :o
Those look sweet! :-*
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Stunning work :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Great looking group :)
I know almost nothing of the period- how many of your groups are based on real personages?
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What a beautiful unit - from the base to the standard!
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Superb, as usual
You are such a bad influence on people lol
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Very nice painting , your usual crisp highlights and shadows make them really pop!
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Delightful unit :-*
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As crisp as it gets Richard :-*
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Thanks lads.
Superb, as usual
You are such a bad influence on people lol
I try my best, Kerry lol
Great looking group :)
I know almost nothing of the period- how many of your groups are based on real personages?
Thank you Matt :)
About half my collection is based on historical characters and their retinues, like the Howards, the Mowbrays, and the house of York itself. I’ve also got a handful of Tudors!
The other half is based on the family names and manors of various landed gentry in the area where I live. So the Tenchleys, Osneys, Foyles and DeBrasseys were of the knightly class going back to medieval times. Whether they or their ancestors actually took part in the Wars of the Roses is purely make-believe on my part. I’ve tried to create aspects of their livery based on the colours seen in old badges and escutcheons found in local churches :)
And one or two I’ve just made up lol
I also need to do the De Lamberts, who were another powerful local landowning family, and whose history goes right back to the Norman Conquest, and definitely includes notable warriors. They also happen to have a very cool heraldry which I found on the wall of a local chapel.
I’ve done a couple of Lamberts for my earlier feudal medieval forces. I really need to extend them forward 300 years to the Wars of the Roses.
Sir Jehan de Lambert, of the Manor of South Park.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_20_10_13_1_50_37_2.JPG)
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So beautiful! :-* :-* :-*
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I like the way you've blended local history sources and the major players of the conflicts. Excellent ideas :)
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Excellent!
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Thanks Marc :)
Looking very nice! Silly question but how do you paint your Murrey? it looks great!
Sorry. I missed this one. Not silly at all :)
I’ve changed recipe several times over the years I’ve been painting these actually. If you look carefully, you’ll see that the 12 figures are are a few slightly different colours!
These three latest ones were done with Vallejo ‘Burnt Red’ with a little bit of purple mixed into it.
For the highlights, believe it or not, I blended in a little ‘dark flesh’ (which is actually quite pale).
The pale yellow/orange/pink skin tone manages to keep the highlights warm but still in the right tonal range (ooer) for the maroon colour. (If you lighten it with white or even ivory, it looks too chalky and pink).
Nobody really knows exactly what ‘murrey’ is (or was), or what colour it was. Presumably a kind of berry colour though, from ‘mulberry’ perhaps?
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Top class work as always.
Your kitbashing helped me make some alterations to the Iberians I am working on 👍
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Top class work as always.
Your kitbashing helped me make some alterations to the Iberians I am working on 👍
Thanks. That’s good to hear. I saw your Iberians and thought they looked good. Victrix are getting better and better.
They and Perry are really the only ‘historical’ plastics worth having to my mind. There are a few good sets amongst some of the other manufacturers’ offerings, but not to a consistent standard. And they’re almost always sorely lacking in the sheer number and variety of bodies and assorted other components.
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I’ve changed recipe several times over the years I’ve been painting these actually. If you look carefully, you’ll see that the 12 figures are are a few slightly different
Ah, I did noticed that, but thought it was your intention to vary the tone... lol
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I love coming back to this thread and seeing the new things. Excellent stuff captain and I really like the make believe part. At least this way you can be sure you will have units that most other war of the roses players do not have.
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I love coming back to this thread and seeing the new things. Excellent stuff captain and I really like the make believe part. At least this way you can be sure you will have units that most other war of the roses players do not have.
Thank you Breazer :)
More new things... Another trio of longbowmen added to an existing unit to bring them up to the 12 strong company required for Never Mind The Billhooks...
For Sir John Osney of Outwood's retinue...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-091220181757-495931116.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-091220181757-49599230.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-091220181757-496001355.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-091220181758-496011127.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-091220181758-496021263.jpeg)
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Very nice Richard 8)
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Superb as always Richard :-* :-* :-*
It has almost certainly been asked before, but what colours do you use on your bases? I assume it's craft paint? ???
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Lovely paint job and a striking choice of colours!
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Lovely painting as usual. :-* :-* :-*
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Thanks :)
Superb as always Richard :-* :-* :-*
It has almost certainly been asked before, but what colours do you use on your bases? I assume it's craft paint? ???
Actually it’s mainly Vallejo ‘Flat Earth’ with black mixed in for the base coat and with increasing amounts of white / ivory for the highlight drybrushing...
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Very smart group, those colours are bound to attract a lot of fletched shafts ;)
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Cracking work :-* :-* :-*
must be another huge army?
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Thanks :)
Actually it’s mainly Vallejo ‘Flat Earth’ with black mixed in for the base coat and with increasing amounts of white / ivory for the highlight drybrushing...
Thanks. 8)
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Beautiful work :-*
And I do like those irregular bases, wish I’d gone down that route now.
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Nice brushwork Richard
Cheers
Matt
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Very vibrant colors :-*
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Thanks lads.
Cracking work :-* :-* :-*
must be another huge army?
Hmmm... I think it’s roundabout 250 figures at present, Colin, maybe now pushing 300. I have a fair few more to do to bring all the retinues up to the requisite numbers of 12 foot / 8 mounted for ‘Billhooks’.
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The poor, down-trodden foot soldier has never looked so good.
:-* :-*
Hmmm... I think it’s roundabout 250 figures at present, Colin, maybe now pushing 300. I have a fair few more to do to bring all the retinues up to the requisite numbers of 12 foot / 8 mounted for ‘Billhooks’.
The trials and tribulations of world domination, eh?
;)
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Excellent work as usual Richard, not sure about that green though ;)
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As ever more beautiful minis from the Captain. Wish I'd gone down the sabot route with my WOTR forces, thought about it long and hard after seeing your bases last year but opted form multi bases for Hail Caesar. The good part is my GOT are all sabot based and in 6 12s so will be useful for NMTB. Just wish I could my painting goodenough to put on here :?
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Excellent work as usual Richard, not sure about that green though ;)
Thanks Chris. Bit acidic isn’t it? lol
Just wish I could my painting goodenough to put on here :?
You’ve got to start somewhere. It’s probably better than you think :)
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Hmmm... I think it’s roundabout 250 figures at present, Colin, maybe now pushing 300. I have a fair few more to do to bring all the retinues up to the requisite numbers of 12 foot / 8 mounted for ‘Billhooks’.
250 ? thats not really very many :D
seriously impressive painting once again
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Excellent work as usual Richard, not sure about that green though ;)
Thanks Chris. Bit acidic isn’t it? lol
I think you are just practising for when you paint up those green-skinned Vampires for Nick.
:D
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Very nice, Richard. Aren't those the colours of the Wimbledon tennis championships?
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Exactly so, Paul. Amongst other things. Purple and green - a classic colour combination ;)
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Here are the latest plastic creations - I decided to make a half strength unit of men-at-arms for Henry Tudor.
A modest amount of kitbashing, but mainly just judicious selection of parts and poses...
I already made a Henry Tudor and entourage back in the days of the first two Perry plastic medieval sets, but things have moved on a bit since then :)
I will re-use a couple of the originals I made, but for the additions, here's Henry (bareheaded) and four of his loyal adherents...
Pretty sure that long-haired head from the Foot Knights command frame is really meant to be Richard III, but it will serve just as well for his nemesis once I've given him mousy brown hair...
(It actually looks rather more like Charles Dance than either contender for the throne at Bosworth).
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-151220161920-496991109.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-151220161921-497061164.jpeg)
Actually, it wouldn't make a bad vignette... :D
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-151220161921-497071094.jpeg)
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Nice job! :-*
Looking forward to see them painted. I'm sure you will not disappoint! ;)
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Nice kitbashing!
I really like the standard bearer(?) body from the command frame with the poleaxe, it makes for a great pose!
The chap in the tabard dual wielding a war-hammer and mace got a chuckle out of me. Just the thought of a knight deciding that restraint and subtlety are for Yorkists, grabbing his flashiest gear so he can just go absolutely wild lol
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This is one of my favourite threads ever... it just keeps delivering amazing painting, posing and bases. Thank you for sharing.
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You always manage such excellent poses in your builds, natural yet dynamic. Well done again!
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Oh, Sir Richard, don't you thing your Henry Turdor looks a bit like a Woodstock-Hippie? I think it is a very progressiv interpretation of the King Henry the VII. in his wild years.
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Oh, Sir Richard, don't you thing your Henry Turdor looks a bit like a Woodstock-Hippie? I think it is a very progressiv interpretation of the King Henry the VII. in his wild years.
Turdor? What are you saying? lol
Fab work Richard as ever- looking forward to seeing them painted up amigo 8)
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As you know Richard hair really isn't my area of expertise lol
However I'm sure by the time you've finished, the figure of Henry will be spot on. Brilliant work as always, cant wait to see them coloured in.
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Turdor? What are you saying? lol
Fab work Richard as ever- looking forward to seeing them painted up amigo 8)
It seem than the german correction is changing Tudor to Turdor. Hmm, Funny. I meant Tudor.
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It seem than the german correction is changing Tudor to Turdor. Hmm, Funny. I meant Tudor.
I know! lol ......god knows what I mess I would make have things if I had to use my pigeon German from school!
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Here's Henry and his bodyguard, painted...
Suitably Christmassy, I thought ;)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-261220192535-497872357.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-261220192535-497891139.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-261220192535-497861447.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-261220192535-497882012.jpeg)
And here with his standard bearer and another Tudor man-at-arms painted years ago...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-261220192535-497901285.jpeg)
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Wonderful colours om these.
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Lovely work Richard :-*
Every time I think of Henry Tudor I can't but think, what if? :)
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excellent work sir! I didnt know this is what he'd wear vs Richard but I suppose itmakes more sense than the symbol he adopts with the two roses.
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Now bring us some figgy pudding, Henry Tudor!
And bring some out here!
I think that line was cut from Richard III. :)
Superb!
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Stunning work :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
lovely colours
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Excellent builds and brushwork 👍
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Lovely brushwork as always! :-*
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Yes man, yes! C'Mon the Taffs!
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Brilliant :-* :-* :-*
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They are striking 8)
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jolly nice - the hand painted dragons are splendid
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Great work! Loving the bold colours!
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Stunning and superb seem somewhat inadequate to describe these fire breathing Welsh dragons
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Hello,
Superb paintjob !! As usual !!
Nikkobourges
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Brilliant, love the flag and the livery painted on the armour!
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Those Welsh chaps are really ,really good :-*
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Every time I think of Henry Tudor I can't but think, what if? :)
The same here!
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The same here!
If the story of Bosworth is to be believed then Richard III possibly a meter or so away from the UK having a different history. Perhaps one without the despotism of Henry VIII. Though we will of course never know as the general trend across Europe was a move towards a more powerful and centralised monarchy.
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wow what a beautiful paintwork, would love to see these at a show someday
Brian
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Beautiful PJs....that green really makes them pop.
And the basing .... just the sheer variety of foliage on the bases/movement tray :-*
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Brilliant! You've outdone yourself :-*
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Thanks lads 8)
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With every new group you rise the quality of painting. I wonder how high you want to get. Unbelievable, Senor Ricardo !!!
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Obrigado, Herr Dirk ;)
Just a few more figures finished off - three new billmen and a longbowman, which brings my retinue of Outwood up to 12 archers and 12 bills for Never Mind The Billhooks (or Lion Rampant for that matter :))
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-291220174641-498231690.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-291220174641-498211268.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-291220174641-498221323.jpeg)
The completed retinue...
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-291220174641-498241013.jpeg)
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/49/577-291220174641-498252288.jpeg)
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Those are lovely.
I especially like the bowman (great pose) and, the chap with the purple and green pointy stick who looks like he really means business.
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Nice! 8)
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Wicked cool ;D
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Very swish!
:-* :-*
And nice to see some well-trimmed tuftage too!
:D
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Possible picture of the entire complete figures?
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Cracking job :-* :-* :-*
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Lovely work Richard :-*
I think the longer warbows from the 'HYW' range work much better than the Wars of the Roses. I'm reminded of this picture I took at Warwick Castle, which I love. The young man is obviously pulling a draw of considerable poundage even at his young age:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SiCt9N7am6A/T1CBXT60WmI/AAAAAAAAAXE/Ylu3C5HraFo/s1600/warwick-22.jpg)
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Thanks gents :)
Possible picture of the entire complete figures?
Possibly. A lot to lay out, but a good idea. Don’t think I’ve ever photographed the whole lot together :)
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Thanks gents :)
Possibly. A lot to lay out, but a good idea. Don’t think I’ve ever photographed the whole lot together :)
Great idea, look forward to seeing the photos in a few days once you’ve laid everything out ;) lol
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lol
Thanks Matt >:D
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No idea of heraldry, but a lovely retinue with a striking choice of colours :-*
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Top class, well put together, painted and based :-*
My mind does wander off at times as I have some boxes of Perry figures for the period - purchased for Frostgrave - but then I see the newly arrived Barons War figures.............. decisions, decisions o_o
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Beautiful work as always. :-*
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Amazing work Captain!! 8)
Christopher
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Thanks gents :)
Hopefully another batch in the next couple of weeks... Once I’m over my orcs lol
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Thanks gents :)
Hopefully another batch in the next couple of weeks... Once I’m over my orcs lol
It’s ok, we all just assumed you were still putting them all on the table for a group photo ;) lol
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Oops, forgot about that.
Mind you, after Giles’s thousand or so WOTR figures arrayed on the tabletop, mine are going to look a little threadbare lol
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Oops, forgot about that.
Mind you, after Giles’s thousand or so WOTR figures arrayed on the tabletop, mine are going to look a little threadbare lol
Nonsense. "We few, we happy few, we band of brothers..."!
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Nonsense. "We few, we happy few, we band of brothers..."!
I think wrong time, Peder. But, WotR with machine-guns. Hmm, let me think about it... 8)
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I think wrong time, Peder. But, WotR with machine-guns. Hmm, let me think about it... 8)
Yes the wrong time, but by no more than a few decades. Those were the words, the St Crispin's Day speech, which the Immortal Bard laid in the mouth of Henry V at Agincourt. :)
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Yes the wrong time, but by no more than a few decades. Those were the words, the St Crispin's Day speech, which the Immortal Bard laid in the mouth of Henry V at Agincourt. :)
I think Hardcore-Followers of the Plantagenets would nearly storm the Capitol, I think. York and Lancester or not the main line of platagenet, only the simple sideway of it... ;)
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I think Hardcore-Followers of the Plantagenets would nearly storm the Capitol, I think. York and Lancester or not the main line of platagenet, only the simple sideway of it... ;)
Maybe they were just a Minor Threat? ;) :D
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Maybe they were just a Minor Threat? ;) :D
Or the black sheep’s of a big family lol
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Or the black sheep’s of a big family lol
8) I was afraid that no one was going to get that 8)
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Apologies for thread resurrection, but joined the forum to note my appreciation for this topic - it has inspired my own feeble efforts towards WOTR. Hopefully the good Captain will entertain us again with some more 15th century stuff when he emerges from his current works (WW2?)
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Haha. Thank you. Yes, it’s the project that keeps on giving. I think I do have some more bits and pieces to share that I haven’t put on here, but I have indeed been distracted by ECW and WW2 rather a lot over the last year or two :)
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You know between you and Giles, you could put together one hell'va demonstration game at pretty much any convention you choose.
It would be an incredibly large logistical problem, but I think it could be very rewarding.
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Mind you, after Giles’s thousand or so WOTR figures arrayed on the tabletop, mine are going to look a little threadbare lol
I have added to the collection since ;)
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Well, after a significant ECW imposed break from this neverending project (which I see to my horror I started 10 fecking years ago!) I'm back in the room! lol
The imminent release of Mr Callan's marvellous 'Never Mind The Billhooks - Deluxe' edition, (in which I'm honoured to have contributed a few pages on painting and modelling figures and ephemera for the period), has prompted me to revisit some of my understrength WOTR factions, with a view of adding enough figures here and there to bring everything up to strength for Billhooks. Which is a splendid set of rules by the way.
(In 'Billhooks', foot companies are comprised of 12 figures - or six for skirmishers - and mounted squadrons are 8 strong. Because I assembled the collection shown in this thread over 10 years, and in all sorts of itty-bitty bijou factions - 7, 8, 9, or 10 figures strong - I've had to do a fair bit of repainting or new painting in order to bring units up to strength. I started doing this a year or so ago, but then got sidetracked by endless painting of those rather good Bloody Miniatures. Can't think why lol)
Anyway, I'm back on it, and aim to show a few completed / replenished units for NMTBH here over the next few days, as I finish them off. (Just in time for the release of Billux Dillux next week with any luck ;))
First off the production line are a couple of new Tudor men-at-arms plus a new mounted Henry Tudor in person.
Every time I pick up the Perry medieval plastics after a break of a several months (or longer) and start putting a few together, I rediscover and remember what an unalloyed pleasure and joy they are to work with. Not only to assemble in creative ways, but to paint. And how far superior they are in every way to every other historical plastic manufacturer out there.
Anyway, this now gives me a mounted Henry (obviously at Bosworth just after he's plucked the hollow crown from the clammy dead brow of Richard III) as well as a Henry on Foot. So I can choose to have him fighting in the line with his closest adherents, or galloping around the field on his gallant steed...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/577-181122152254-569316.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/577-181122152254-56932652.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/577-181122152254-56933557.jpeg)
By also slightly repainting a couple of other (metal) men-at-arms, this now gives me a 12-figure unit of Tudor men-at-arms, thusly...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/577-181122152254-569281975.jpeg)
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Excellent brushwork Richard :-*
That green is more than a little vibrant! 8)
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lol
Thanks Darrell. I am standing by for the usual arrow storm of 'they didn't have dyes that bright' comments ;)
But they jolly well stand out on the tabletop I can tell you :D
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Just let me get my shades. 8)
Wow they look great. :o
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Give you joy of your Renaissance! Billhooks brings out the best in all of us it seems!
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Ha! I thought I recognised that style on the bookface page... Here as there, magnificent work!
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Thanks Darrell. I am standing by for the usual arrow storm of 'they didn't have dyes that bright' comments ;)
But they jolly well stand out on the tabletop I can tell you :D
They do and all the better for it :)
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Quite stunning 8)
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Lovely paint job. Pay no attention to the 'Arrow Storm' :D
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These are really lovely!
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Masterful brushwork! Fantastic looking unit!
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Niiiice.
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Very nicely done but no bucket hats?
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Well, after a significant ECW imposed break from this neverending project (which I see to my horror I started 10 fecking years ago!) I'm back in the room! lol
The imminent release of Mr Callan's marvellous 'Never Mind The Billhooks - Deluxe' edition, (in which I'm honoured to have contributed a few pages on painting and modelling figures and ephemera for the period), has prompted me to revisit some of my understrength WOTR factions, with a view of adding enough figures here and there to bring everything up to strength for Billhooks. Which is a splendid set of rules by the way.
(In 'Billhooks', foot companies are comprised of 12 figures - or six for skirmishers - and mounted squadrons are 8 strong. Because I assembled the collection shown in this thread over 10 years, and in all sorts of itty-bitty bijou factions - 7, 8, 9, or 10 figures strong - I've had to do a fair bit of repainting or new painting in order to bring units up to strength. I started doing this a year or so ago, but then got sidetracked by endless painting of those rather good Bloody Miniatures. Can't think why lol)
Anyway, I'm back on it, and aim to show a few completed / replenished units for NMTBH here over the next few days, as I finish them off. (Just in time for the release of Billux Dillux next week with any luck ;))
First off the production line are a couple of new Tudor men-at-arms plus a new mounted Henry Tudor in person.
Every time I pick up the Perry medieval plastics after a break of a several months (or longer) and start putting a few together, I rediscover and remember what an unalloyed pleasure and joy they are to work with. Not only to assemble in creative ways, but to paint. And how far superior they are in every way to every other historical plastic manufacturer out there.
Anyway, this now gives me a mounted Henry (obviously at Bosworth just after he's plucked the hollow crown from the clammy dead brow of Richard III) as well as a Henry on Foot. So I can choose to have him fighting in the line with his closest adherents, or galloping around the field on his gallant steed...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/577-181122152254-569316.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/577-181122152254-56932652.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/577-181122152254-56933557.jpeg)
By also slightly repainting a couple of other (metal) men-at-arms, this now gives me a 12-figure unit of Tudor men-at-arms, thusly...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/577-181122152254-569281975.jpeg)
Brilliant, Richard. I always envied your skill with skincolors and howneat you keep it. And your photography.
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Thank you gents :)
Next up, five more longbowmen in perky orange and blue to create a Billhooks-sized company of 12.
Four of these new recruits I've just finished. The fifth - the chap flicking two fingers - I actually built and painted for the Billhooks Deluxe book. So he's an inch-high celebrity! ;)
For my original (local and fictitious) WOTR setting, these fellows in orange and blue formed part of the retinue of Sir Roger de Brassey of Tandridge (a capacity in which they will still take to the tabletop from time to time).
Serendipitously though, the very same livery colours serve for the entirely historical Sir John de Mowbray, 3rd Duke of Norfolk. Which allows me to pair them with my unit of Mowbray's veteran and stiffened bills (also shown below), to form a tasty block formation for NMTBH.
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Here are the newbies integrated with the oldies...
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And their uber-hard chums...
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Interestingly, the shooting longbowman on the front right of the line in this picture, is the very first Perry plastic WOTR figure I made and painted, waaaay back in January 2010 :o :o :o
FINALLY he's made it into a full sized unit! lol
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"Pierre, I could've sworn there was an archer in that pulk. Looked like Sly Stallone and yelled "Up yours!" at us and flipped us his bowstringers!"
Cracking stuff!
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Splendid 8)
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Boootiful stuff as always.
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Excellent work! Always a fan of the vibrant colours!
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Impressive display! :D
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Beautiful stuff Richard.
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More masterful brushwork Richard!
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Interestingly, the shooting longbowman on the front right of the line in this picture, is the very first Perry plastic WOTR figure I made and painted, waaaay back in January 2010 :o :o :o
I also spy the figure with the pole arm and sword that you did a painting demo for on the Steve Dean forum.
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Simply lovely. :-* :-* :-*
I just spend 1 hour re-visiting this thread and loved it. :)
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Thanks Rui :) (and thank you all)
I also spy the figure with the pole arm and sword that you did a painting demo for on the Steve Dean forum.
Gosh, you have got a good memory lol
Yes, that figure must be more than 10 years old now as well ::)
Still looking fresh as daisies though :D
It’s good to get them back into action!
Got several more new ones to come, and a few more in progress. Verily this project is the gift that keeps on giving lol
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I look forward to seeing those.
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Totally gorgeous work :-*
My copy of Billhooks arrived today and I look forward to trying the painting lessons out.
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Thanks chaps :)
Next up, I've built and painted three more longbowmen, plus a man-at-arms with banner (from the very excellent Pete's Flags). Oh, and one more ribaud or pricker...
The cream and teal livery was originally for another of my fictitious local factions (it's a local conflict for local people) - Viz. Sir Gilbert Foyle of Crowhurst. But now I'm doubling these figures up into the retinue of the historical William Neville, Lord Fauconberg. Mainly because Pete has created some nice flags for said Lordship.
Like a plum, I've managed to get the livery colours the wrong way round on these new recruits (never go from memory, fool!) This was probably a hanging offence in the 1460-80s, but I'm damned if I'm painting them again lol
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/57/577-221122180633-57391565.jpeg)
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Believe it or not, the addition of these few figures (plus a bit of judicious repainting of a couple of older men-at-arms figures), allows me to field three more full size units for Billhooks. Including a full-strength eight man light cavalry squadron of scabby looking rascals available to the highest bidder.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/57/577-221122180633-573902145.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/57/577-221122180633-573891176.jpeg)
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That cavalryman is spectacular, wow!
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Nice minis!
Once I get round to my Yorkists, Faconberg is top of my list. Nicely done sir!
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Very, very nice
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Just brilliant, and the idea of imagiretinues is even more ace
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:-* Brilliant stuff! An inspiration for all hobbyists!
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Wonderful work!
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Richard,
If you ever fancy some more variety, Eureka have just re-released a WoTR range that are perfect matches for the Perry chaps. Lovely sculpts they are too. I'm sure you would do a superb job with these.*
https://www.eurekamin.com.au/index.php?cPath=87_126_909&sort=3a
*No connection with Eureka, just a happy customer who happened to see these last time he was in the shop.
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Absolutely FANTASTIC! Masterful brushwork! Excellent figures! I'm so jealous!
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Wonderful work.
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Thanks :)
So, the project to reconstitute my ever-expanding Wars of the Roses collection into 'Never Mind the Billhooks'-sized units continues...
To this end, I've painted a few more figures (and repainted the livery on a few more, not shown below) which will allow me to round out five more units, four of which are mounted knights / cavalry.
Here are the five new mounted figures - I'll show you how they fit into their reconstituted units once I've lined 'em up and taken their pictures - plus two new crossbowmen.
Two of the mounted figures are metal. Honestly (I've said it before, I know) they are nowhere near as good as the plastics. Quite roughly realised - especially the riders. But since I've had them sitting in a box for years, I figured I might as well use them... ::)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/57/577-061222204947-574921859.jpeg)
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The two new Milanese crossbowmen let me round out a second unit of Italian mercenary skirmishers for Billhooks, thusly...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/57/577-061222204947-57496449.jpeg)
Joining the newly constituted handgunners - all of whom have been previously pictured somewhere up above (I think ::))
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/57/577-061222204947-574951848.jpeg)
This does leave me a few Milanese odds and ends... Not sure what I'm going to do with them, so for the time being I'm going to use them for purely decorative purposes lol
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Spiffy 8)
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Ahh, the return of the stripey trousers! Very nicely done :)
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Very nice 8)
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They look great. Love those peacocks in their stripes and bright colors..
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Your pics just always make me go "Wow!"
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Absolutely GORGEOUS! Magnificent brushwork!
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Class :-* :-* :-*
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Love the colors you used.
Great painting as usual. :)
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superb :-*
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outstanding painting , as always :-*
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Thanks gents :)
Here are the first of my reconstituted cavalry units for Billhooks.
Most of these are figures which were done long ago, and already pictured way up above in this thread.
But with a smattering of new additions plus some judicious repainting of liveries, I'm now able to reorganise all my WOTR mounted forces into units of eight plus a leader, for Billhooks.
As you can see, each mounted retinue is a mix of fully armoured and lighter armoured types. For Billhooks purposes, I plan to declare them either Knights or Light Cavalry as need dictates ;)
First up, Fauconberg and Norfolk.
Fauconberg - three new additions.
Norfolk - one new addition and three repaints.
Several more of these reconstituted units to come!
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They’re spiffy as well 8)
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Wowsers! :-*
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Absolutely lovely! :-* :-* :-*
I've just assembled about 70 plastic Perry WotR troops and this thread is an inspiration, thanks.
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The two new Milanese crossbowmen let me round out a second unit of Italian mercenary skirmishers for Billhooks, thusly...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/57/577-061222204947-57496449.jpeg)
Joining the newly constituted handgunners - all of whom have been previously pictured somewhere up above (I think ::))
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/57/577-061222204947-574951848.jpeg)
This does leave me a few Milanese odds and ends... Not sure what I'm going to do with them, so for the time being I'm going to use them for purely decorative purposes lol
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/57/577-061222205035.jpeg)
They’re delightful. Quite probably the most impressive Italian Wars unit I’ve seen.
Bellissimo! 👌
You’re tempting me to paint a few myself.
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Gorgeous, simply gorgeous!
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all absolutely outstanding.
good as it gets really.
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They are utterly beautiful Captain. :-*
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So beautiful :o :o :o
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This painting can only be the result of some sort of wizardry. Stupendous.
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Great stuff. Can I also say I was particularly impressed with the painting/ modelling section in Billhooks Deluxe, very inspiring!
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Thanks chaps.
Great stuff. Can I also say I was particularly impressed with the painting/ modelling section in Billhooks Deluxe, very inspiring!
Thanks James :)
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For several years, I have followed this impressive project, even before deciding to write in this forum. It seems to me a very inspiring project, so much so, that in part, it encourages me to start mine, from the Spanish colonial wars, in North Africa.
Surely, do not say anything new, has not already been said about this project. Even so, I will insist, my most sincere congratulations, for so many hours of hard work and for your collection of miniatures, which are the envy of any lover of this hobby
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That's very kind of you to say so, Abrasapuentes. Gracias :)
Here is the next reconstituted unit, comprising several older mounted figures, and brought up to the correct unit size for 'Billhooks' with a newly painted mounted figure, plus two repainted mounted figures (to change their previous liveries).
Sir Robert Tenchley of Staffhurst (a local magnate in my - strictly ahistorical - local WOTR campaign setting) with his mounted retinue.
I don't know if any historical main players boasted a claret and yellow livery like this (properly 'murrey and gold' perhaps), but they should have done because it's dead smart ;)
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Prime targets >:D
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Prime targets >:D
Ooh that's nasty! lol
Grand show, this is a gallery of inspiration.
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Lovely work all round! :o
I'm sure I recognise a couple of these lads from the Westeros project way back when! Excellent work keeping them versatile! :D
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I'm sure I recognise a couple of these lads from the Westeros project way back when! Excellent work keeping them versatile! :D
Thanks :)
I think the chap on the caparisoned horse might have doubled as a Lannister at one point, yes lol
Actually that reminds me. If I look in the right box, I might be able to find one or two GoT figures I could quickly recolour to bring more WOTR units up to strength for Billhooks - although that will be robbing Peter to pay Paul ;)
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These are very nice! A true inspiration. :-* :-* :-*
May I ask where is the caparisoned horse from? I was looking for horses like that that will match Perry's miniatures.
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Dead smart indeed. Wonderful work.
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Thanks :)
May I ask where is the caparisoned horse from? I was looking for horses like that that will match Perry's miniatures.
It’s a Fireforge Teutonic / Templar Knight’s horse body with a Perry horse’s head :)
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These are very nice! A true inspiration. :-* :-* :-*
May I ask where is the caparisoned horse from? I was looking for horses like that that will match Perry's miniatures.
I have done a couple for myself with green stuff and miliput mix. It’s a quite easy conversion, not much different than making cloaks, if you are interested I could write a walk through.
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Phenomenal brushwork! Absolutely master class!
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Thank you :)
And now for something slightly different... Not, in fact, Perry (:o :o :o :o - shocking, I know) although very definitely designed to fit with the Perry WOTR era figures...
Here's a first company of mercenary Euro pikemen for Billhooks.
These excellent 28mm figures are by a brand new company called Warsteel Miniatures, based in Germany, and run by Simon Maier, who's also here on LAF (user name GulKelan)
These figures will form part of a Kickstarter in 2023, portraying unarmoured 'Vorhut' Swiss / Continental European pikemen, crossbowmen and handgunners for the late medieval period.
The figures are digitally sculpted by Simon, who - since I expressed an interest - got in touch to ask if I would like to see some samples. He then generously sent me a batch of about 100 different figures printed in resin (yes, it's a very large selection!) The resin holds the fine detail on the figures wonderfully. There are also about 130 different interchangeable heads, all in distinctive mittel-european styles of helmets and headgear. All beautifully done.
The figures are sized to fit exactly with the Perry plastics late medieval ranges, and I'm looking forward to trying out some of Simon's heads on some Perry bodies in the near future (and vice-versa in fact!).
The Warsteel poses are a lot more active and dynamic than the Perry figures, but I think they will fit in very well. Simon has practiced late medieval re-enactment combat, so his poses feel very realistic.
I guess it's also true that you can print almost any pose you like using 3D printing. Whereas 'traditional' injection-moulded plastic figures on a frame have certain limitations imposed by the process.
Anyway, I'll be painting some units of mercenary crossbowmen and handgunners next, followed by a second pike company.
I believe Simon's intent with the Kickstarter is now to provide the digital files to backers - and if, like me, you want nothing to do with the gooey, sticky, time-consuming and technical end of 3D printing, you'll be able to send on the files to a local '3D print farm' (yes, apparently such places exist) who will print the figures out for you.
If the first Kickstarter is successful, Simon then plans to sculpt armoured and part-armoured types.
(Please don't ask me questions on the Kickstarter though, because I have no direct involvement! Simon offered to send me some figures in exchange for pictures of any of the figures I end up painting. I liked the look of the figures so much that I said yes. And I'm glad I did, because they're lovely :-*)
Simon's original thread on these figures is here, and best to address any questions direct to him :)
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=139184.0
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Those look very nice indeed. The poses are excellent, as is the paintwork!
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Grand 8)
I feel like making them all dead next week >:D lol
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you want nothing to do with the gooey, sticky, time-consuming and technical end of 3D printing,
That would be me. :D
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Oh wow these are some amazing sculpts! Thanks for showing them! I'll definitely have to check out the Kickstarter when that goes live
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Now that I see them painted up I'm even more of a fan! :-* :-* :-*
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Wow! These look gorgeous! :o
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It really was a interesting looking Kickstarter. And I might jump in once he restarts it. Lots of great poses and some many heads and helmets make it worth it. Even if I don't have a 3D printer. :D
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They do look nice with some paint on them! I'm hoping to try them out myself in the near future....
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Thanks :)
I'm now working on painting the Warsteel crossbowmen and handgunners. Then onto the second company of Warsteel pikemen.
In the meanwhile... being an inveterate fiddler, I couldn't wait to try a few of Simon's 130 (:o !!!!!) new heads on some Perry bodies.
And since I had to build four more horsemen to bring another of my mounted retinues up to full strength for 'Billhooks', I thought - why not?
As you can see, the Warsteel heads are a great fit and extremely sharply printed. I think they set the Perry figures off a treat, and create a gazillion new, interesting possibilities... Especially if you want more Continental European-looking cavalry for Burgundy / France / Germany etc.
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In the interest of fairness (and since Simon kindly sent me soooo many pikemen lol), I thought I'd also try it the other way round, and pop some Perry heads onto the Warsteel bodies :D
I already have (painted) a company of 12 marching Scots pikemen. So figured I'd add a second attacking company to turn it into a 24-man block or schiltron.
To help the two companies blend in together, I thought Perry heads would work better to create some visual continuity. I've also given most of the figures bucklers (from the HYW sets), which will add a further visual link between the two 12-man companies...
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Again, as you can see, the components work pretty well together :)
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I will have to have some of those Warsteel figures for Westeros it seems! :o Not sure how much of that is GRRM's own high medieval influences, or the armor styles the TV show's costume designers gravitated towards, but those more continental helmets are striking a chord with me.
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Those are some nice heads. Good to see how well they work with the Perry's stuff.
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Thanks :)
Finished a squad of Warsteel crossbowmen...
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And here with ze pikes...
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Damn, your paintjob really bring them alive, simply superb!
I am so happy to see that the heads are fitting the perrys aswell.
Cant wait to sculpt more in the future!
Thanks alot Captain Blood :)
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Lovely painting
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Splendid :)
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Excellent paintwork and thanks for showing the sculpts off!
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Excellent brushwork Richard :-* :-* :-*
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Amazing! :-*
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Those Warsteel fellas look amazing. I will definitely be on board with that kickstarter. They look like they are easy to paint as well.
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Superb brushwork as usual
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What a striking group! The vibrancy of your colors never ceases to impress :-*
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nice addition , striking colours :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Great models, I really like how the yellow turned out!
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Thanks everyone - handgunners to follow in a few days all being well :)
Those Warsteel fellas look amazing. I will definitely be on board with that kickstarter. They look like they are easy to paint as well.
Thanks Frede. Yes, they are very easy to paint because apart from belts, pouches and daggers, they are basically in onesies with a blissful absence of fiddly detail. So yes, a pleasure to paint :)
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Very nicely done, good to see stripey trousers back on the menu :D
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Oh dear, those are really great! :o :o :o
Now I am really excited about the handgunners!
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Very nicely done, good to see stripey trousers back on the menu :D
lol
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Moi Capitan, paint one more and they are the glorious seven - medival version. Wonderful work. Love them. Now I have a small Fistful of Billhooks-scenario in mind. With a beekeeper and these boys. We need the next BLAM!
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Thank you lol
Here are some of the Warsteel handgunners
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/57/577-210123124207.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/57/577-210123124000-579181114.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/57/577-210123124000-579171132.jpeg)
And with the pikes...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/57/577-210123124000-579202288.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/57/577-210123124000-57919848.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/57/577-210123124000-579151082.jpeg)
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They are exceptional - even by your standards :-*
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Beautifully done Richard :-*
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Excellent! Great colour combination, and lovely stripey hose. :-*
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Lovely colours :-*
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Looks like stripes are back on the menu boys!
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Have to try Stripes for myself now!!
Never believed red and green would look so well together.
Are the reds vallejo colours?
May is ask which color names they are? The red is stunning!
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Thanks :)
Simon, the red is:
Basecoat - Vallejo Burnt Red
Mid coat - Vallejo Dark Vermillion
Highlights - small amounts of Vallejo Dark Flesh blended into the Dark Vermillion.
That’s it! :)
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Never believed red and green would look so well together
Red and green are complimentary colours.
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Lovely :-*
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I too am in favour of more stripes. 8)
The two dudes in the middle would be right at home smashing out some '80's metal. :D
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/57/577-210123124207.jpeg)
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very nice indeed
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I too am in favour of more stripes. 8)
The two dudes in the middle would be right at home smashing out some '80's metal. :D
They all look like poses Steve Harris would adopt!
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Yes. It’s all very heavy metal - air guitars all round lol
Although the chap second from the left in that picture looks like a proper contorted Medieval shootist from a woodcut or Breugel painting…
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They all look like poses Steve Harris would adopt!
A stone to step on would complete the pose lol
@captain blood you should name this section “afraid to shoot strangers’’ ;D
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Disturbing how real they look. :o
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Disturbing how real they look. :o
Joke aside, the posing of the minis is fantastic.
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Needing another company of longbows, I thought I'd use some of my spare Warsteel heads on some Perry body parts :)
As you can see, they're a perfect fit and provide some welcome variety in the look of my longbow units...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/58/577-070223113641-580522142.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/58/577-070223113641-58053667.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/58/577-070223113641-580541233.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/58/577-070223113641-580551992.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/58/577-070223113641-580561023.jpeg)
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Nicely done
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Those are great.
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Keep getting better.Variety is the spice of life.
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They certainly do work well on the Perry bodies.
Great new collection of archer poses too, I particularly like the one who looks like he's about to unwrap his arrow bag. I think I might 'borrow' that one.
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Great idea!
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Needing to build a couple more longbow companies quite quickly, I remembered that I had done some Stark archers for Game of Thrones, kitbashed from Perry Medieval and North Star Frostgrave parts.
I figured that if I rounded out this unit with a few more figures, they'd pass muster as hairy Welsh hill folk... And so, with the addition of half a dozen new builds, plus another excellent flag from Pete's Flags, I've now added Sir Rhys ap Thomas to my Lancastrian collection - the man who (allegedly) killed Richard III. Exciting.
I've also pressed one of my Stark mounted figures into service as a mounted Sir Rhys, if he should be needed as a leader.
A bit fanciful all in all, but I think they do the job :)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/58/577-280223115107-5824443.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/58/577-280223115107-58245859.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/58/577-280223115107-582432186.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/58/577-280223115107-58238620.jpeg)
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A fine body of men,Cymru am Byth! :)
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They do the job :)
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Lovely pjs
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Nicely done!
I'm still working my way through the entire thread. I'm not normally that fussed by the War of the Roses, but the thread is joyously brilliant and the painting and modelling is impeccable. I especially like all the stripy hoes. :-*
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superb.
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Excellent! A true inspiration :-*
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Beautifully done! Inspirational!
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These are absolutely gorgeous WOW!
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Loving these Richard, especially the muted palette.
Rees is a great character, I created a unit with him in for a little later in his life on the 1513 campaign in France;
https://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.com/2018/11/rhys-ap-thomas-and-demilancers.html?m=1
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very nice retinue :-*
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Thanks chaps :)
Rees is a great character, I created a unit with him in for a little later in his life on the 1513 campaign in France;
https://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.com/2018/11/rhys-ap-thomas-and-demilancers.html?m=1
Thanks Stuart. He was certainly a character by the sound of things. What a career :o
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A nice bunch of Valleyboys Richard
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Haha! Thanks Kerry :)
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Hot on the heels of Sir Rhys ap Thomas, here's another Welsh contingent - longbowmen for Henry Tudor (although the excellent Pete's Flags flag is allegedly Jasper Tudor).
I've done the rest of my Tudor retinue in green and white livery, but got bored with that, so these boys are in red and green, just because... :D
These are Perry bodies and arms drawn from across all their medieval sets, but with Warsteel Miniatures heads - which certainly help to mix them up a bit.
That's 8 full companies of longbows for Billhooks. Probably enough? lol
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/58/577-100323174700-583291899.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/58/577-100323174700-583322022.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/58/577-100323174700-58333290.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/58/577-100323174700-583312104.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/58/577-100323174700-58330473.jpeg)
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Simply splendid Richard :-*
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Looking great as usual! Are the Warsteel Miniatures commercially available yet?
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Lovely unit, but are you ready sure eight units are enough? ;D
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Absolutely stunning, certainly disavows the old saying about red and green not being seen!!
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Thanks :)
Lovely unit, but are you ready sure eight units are enough? ;D
lol Well Florian, perhaps not. You know what wargamers are like… ;)
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Excellent work
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Thanks :)
lol Well Florian, perhaps not. You know what wargamers are like… ;)
Then better start planning to extend to sixteen…at least lol
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Simply stunning! Masterful brushwork! I love the livery!
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We certainly won't suggest you stop making more. Magnificent unit.
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Beautiful.
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Absolutely stunning work there sir. Some proper inspiration!
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They really are stunning
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Thanks all :)
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On and on and on we go lol
I've now painted these four mounted figures...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/57/577-311222145136-57756325.jpeg)
Assorted Perry parts but with Warsteel heads...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/58/577-270323121038-584982292.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/58/577-270323121038-58499396.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/58/577-270323121038-585002165.jpeg)
Which lets me round out another unit of mounted Knights (plus a captain) for Never Mind The Billhooks. In this case, the mounted retinue of the (fictional) Sir John Osney of Outwood.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/58/577-270323121038-584971943.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/58/577-270323121038-584941204.jpeg)
That now gives me a mere seven units of mounted knights, which is a wildly impractical total for Billhooks - unless I do an imaginations style clash between a mounted knightly army and a longbow armed footslogger army. (So Agincourt, but 1475 rather than 1415... And sans les Bleus ;))
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Beautiful!
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Thanks Steve :)
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Superb Richard :-* :-* :-*
......and I simply have to say it again, "that green!" o_o
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Thanks Darrell :)
Yes, it is a wee bit acidic isn't it? lol
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outstanding additions
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Thanks Darrell :)
Yes, it is a wee bit acidic isn't it? lol
Acidic but vibrant :) ;)
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More fantastic looking figures painted masterfully! Stunning and I love the color choices!
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They look great :-*
I think that you are the only one who can get away with the Suzuki gsxr green on medieval minis lol lol
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Lovely unit, Richard, but reading this…
That now gives me a mere seven units of mounted knights, which is a wildly impractical total for Billhooks - unless I do an imaginations style clash between a mounted knightly army and a longbow armed footslogger army. (So Agincourt, but 1475 rather than 1415... And sans les Bleus ;))
…made me realize you’re really the only person on the globe who has so many painted models that finding game systems or scenarios to use them all is becoming a chore! lol
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lol
Thank you :)
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the green does look a bit strong on screen (and I'm on sRGB), but the figures and painting are just wonderful as ever.
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Thank you.
To be fair, digital photography and a backlit screen does tend to intensify the colour saturation. They’re certainly not quite as bright as this to the naked eye. They do stand out on the tabletop though ;)
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They'll do I suppose. :D
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They'll do I suppose. :D
Too kind ;)
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After a bit of a hiatus, back on it...
Finally got round to painting my second company of Scottish pikemen for Billhooks. These are the Warsteel bodies with Perry heads (pictured undercoated back on page 151)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/59/577-050723131920-59161432.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/59/577-050723131920-591672260.jpeg)
And with the original (painted long ago) Scots pike unit (all Perry)... Giving me a pike block of 24 figures.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/59/577-050723131920-5916886.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/59/577-050723131920-591692437.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/59/577-050723131920-59170660.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/59/577-050723132038.jpeg)
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Love these,colours are great 😃.
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Fantastic work as per Richard. The torso's are the best I have seen since the original Perry releases. Perhaps better. Painting is sublime. :-* :-* :-*
May I ask, are these "prints" available anywhere at the moment? I would dearly love to buy some. I'm afraid 3D printing for myself will likely come a decade after everyone else if my life is anything to go by lol
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Thanks Darrell. Yes they are available, because I know several people bought commercial repro licences through the Kickstarter, including at least one in the UK. Can’t recall who though. I expect Simon, the Warsteel proprietor, can tell you though. He’s on here as GulKelan, so maybe drop him a pm?
Love these,colours are great 😃.
Cheers Keith :)
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Thanks Darrell. Yes they are available, because I know several people bought commercial repro licences through the Kickstarter, including at least one in the UK. Can’t recall who though. I expect Simon, the Warsteel proprietor, can tell you though. He’s on here as GulKelan, so maybe drop him a pm?
Thanks Richard. Will do.
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Very pikey! Me likey.
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very nice additions :-*
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awesome paintjob :o
In case someone needs printed versions of the miniatures you can get in touch with these five merchants:
regimentalcolours.com or also on eBay as rhettscott
Located in the USA
email: rhettdscott@gmail.com
https://instagram.com/eccentricbear?igshid=ZDdkNTZiNTM=
Located in the UK
email: samuelkelly90@gmail.com
https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/TayloredFiguresGB?ref=seller-platform-mcnav
Located in the UK
email: orders@taylorclan.org.uk
www.chrisparkergames.com also pointed to by dayofbattle.com, https://www.ebay.com/str/greenknight4
Located in the USA
email: parker.ce@computer-sense.net
http://Https://Aurora-Dioramas.com
Located in the USA
email: Daniel.Greenlee@gmail.com
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awesome paintjob :o
In case someone needs printed versions of the miniatures you can get in touch with these five merchants:
regimentalcolours.com or also on eBay as rhettscott
Located in the USA
email: rhettdscott@gmail.com
https://instagram.com/eccentricbear?igshid=ZDdkNTZiNTM=
Located in the UK
email: samuelkelly90@gmail.com
https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/TayloredFiguresGB?ref=seller-platform-mcnav
Located in the UK
email: orders@taylorclan.org.uk
www.chrisparkergames.com also pointed to by dayofbattle.com, https://www.ebay.com/str/greenknight4
Located in the USA
email: parker.ce@computer-sense.net
http://Https://Aurora-Dioramas.com
Located in the USA
email: Daniel.Greenlee@gmail.com
Thanks, I've already contacted a couple in the UK.
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Lovely work!
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Brill 8)
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Very smart - did I by chance see these in action on Saturday ?
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Those really are lovely, well done yet again Richard
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Fantastic thread, to say nothing of the miniatures! 😉
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Superb, marvelous colours. 8)
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A very well painted unit, the color pallet used suits them well :-*
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Thanks all :)
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Very nice Richard, look forward to putting an arrow storm down on them... :)