Lead Adventure Forum

Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: sundayhero on May 22, 2012, 08:04:59 PM

Title: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on May 22, 2012, 08:04:59 PM
Hi,

Last year I bought a big bunch of Heroscape boxes (4 valkirie sets ), only for the hex scenery, to play Battletech :

Once you remove the figures (I've got plenty of spare figures, dices, and stuff like that. Some figures could be nice bases for custom projects, I guess...Especially some nice mounted orc and dragon), the 4 sets can be placed in 3 of the original boxes :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/DSCF6958.jpg)


Here's some examples of "blank" tables. No really scenery, but a good way to see the potential of 3d  tables :


(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/DSCF6953.jpg)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/DSCF6959.jpg)



But I now think it could be also a good terrain base for any kind or miniatures gaming (you can also easily replace the rulers, 1 inch = 1 hex, for example), since I saw (on heroscape forum) really nice 3d wargaming tables.


Any other people here interested in heroscape scenery, to share ideas, tips and photos ?


Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: Predatorpt on May 22, 2012, 08:24:21 PM
I've bought 5 boxes for the same reason - for the hexes. But I usually use them to supplement my own table scenario:

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj93/predatorpt/Forums/Battle%20Reports/Mesa.jpg)

If you have an big enough table (not my case) you can do some pretty impressive hills on there. I only did it once, using the 5 sets and it sure beats using books under the tablecloth...

And using the hexes is a great way to resolve ranges when firing. If you know the sizes of the hexes, you know how many hexes you need to count to get the other guy in range. No need for rulers and such.

PS - do you still have the Marro guys? I'm always lookig for more for this project:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=7872.msg440533#msg440533
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: Cherno on May 22, 2012, 09:49:25 PM
I thought about buying a bunch of boxes for BattleTech myself, but then realized I don't play it anyway and the boxes are not too cheap on eBay and prices will only rise the longer they are OOP  :'(

then I thought about making molds and re-caasting the tiles so I can make my own hills and stuff, but somehow this got also shelved because I don't think the puzzle-style connecting mechanism of HeroScape tiles will work when made in plaster.
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on May 23, 2012, 03:50:12 PM
@predator : yes I should have them somewhere. Maybe we can find something to trade together. Let me a few days so I find where the figs are hinding, and I'll send you a PM.


@CHerno : don't go on ebay for such things. In France, I bought each set on "flea market" : on wargame forums and boardgame forums. I bought each valkirie set (the biggest sets of all heroscape range) around 30-40euros each one (including shipping). 2 of the 4 sets were completed (the 2 other ones only included the hexes), and one of them was brand new sealed.

Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: A_Train on May 23, 2012, 04:29:08 PM
Heroscape was a great game and I was sad to see it cancelled.  It was my introduction to miniature gaming, and I wouldn't be here if not for it.

If you have the desire, you can make the terrain look even nicer with some flocking.

(http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p471/Hay_Train/BattleReport002/PA230039.jpg)
(http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p471/Hay_Train/BattleReport028/PC160072.jpg)
(http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p471/Hay_Train/BattleReport033/P1110096.jpg)


Timing is bad, as it is a bit more expensive now.
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on May 23, 2012, 05:21:56 PM
Yes, some paint and flock seems to be a nice scenery improvement (except the stock trees I don't like) ;)
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: Cherno on May 23, 2012, 05:37:48 PM
It's weird that no manufacturer has something similar on offer, cheap modular hex terrain would sit really well not only with BattleTech players but also with wargamers that don't want to spent time or money building their own terrain. I hope someone will pick it up and re-release HeroScape or something similar :)
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: A_Train on May 23, 2012, 05:39:00 PM
The stock heroscape trees are pretty horrendous, but I still used them as they were 'official'.  I did have a fair amount of model train trees that I used before I ever acquired any official trees.

 Not sure how true this is, but I think I heard the interlocking mechanism of Heroscape tiles is trademarked, or something along those lines, meaning it can't be copied as such.
Still, I'm surprised there isn't something else out there.
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on May 23, 2012, 06:34:16 PM
That's why I bought these sets. It 's (was? at least in 2011) quite easy to find on the price range I indicated, here in france. Because no other brand or products range offers the same kind of products as far as I know.

I know some companies sells hex tiles, but without the great "lego-ish" system offered in Heroscape. Most of the time, it's "just" hex tiles for classic 2d terrain mats.

Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: Doomsdave on May 24, 2012, 04:40:43 AM
I was sad to see Heroscape killed as well.  My sons and I still play at least twice a month.  They love to build the boards (lego vibe) which makes less work for me.  We have about 300 figures and most of the large sets.  I missed out on a lot of the medium sets though.

Try this website for individual terrain pieces and parts:
http://www.auggiesgamesonline.com/ (http://www.auggiesgamesonline.com/)
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: FramFramson on May 24, 2012, 03:04:28 PM
Well, if the sets start going for high enough prices on ebay, somebody with the wherewithal may start to smell a business opportunity.
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: A_Train on May 24, 2012, 05:38:20 PM
A single squad (packs come with 2 squads for $12.99 retail) were selling on ebay for $50 before the game was cancelled, yet Hasbro couldn't see money in the game.   I don't think anyone else will at this point either.
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: FramFramson on May 24, 2012, 06:23:44 PM
Hasbro's a big, big company, so I'm sure there was some cold math there. And they may have also simply have decided not to be in that segment of the toy market (minis games). That business decision may look a lot different for a wargames-specific manufacturer, so long as the sets can be sold at a decent profit.
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: Rocktroll on May 24, 2012, 08:00:57 PM
Heroscape is actualy the game I play, its how I found these boards looking for information to convert Mega Bloks ships for Heroscape.

Few things I wanted to respond too,

The main site for Heroscape players is the fan site, Heroscapers.com you can find all sorts of things there, from custom terrain, custom figures and tons of maps.

If your looking for Master set figures, like the Marro, Vikings, Matrix looking agents, WWII soldiers they are dirt cheap, even more if you dont want the official base. ( I actualy have a ton of spares if any one is looking for any of these units let me know, at the very least I can point you to some one who is selling for dirt cheap)

One of the biggest places we go to find our figures is here;
http://auggiesgamesonline.3dcartstores.com/
Auggie ( Adrew) has great customer support, very friendly and ships international. Local to the US is a flat $3.50 shipping. Its the cheapest place to buy terrain right now.

Best place to score good deals online for heroscape in the US is craigslist, heroscapers.com and boardgamegeeks.com

Prices are starting to drop on rare squads on ebay too. Pricey units like the greeks, Gladiatron robots, Elf archers and dwarves usted to go for $40 each now they are going for around $20. Terrain is going up though. Most expensive terrain is Ice, although Jungle and lava are still kind of pricey. The trees are always hunted down by heroscape players as you can never have enough.

The names of these terrain packs are
Thaelenk Tundra - Ice tiles and glaciers
Volcarren Wasteland - Lava tiles - Toys R US Exclusive
Ticalla Jungle - Jungle trees and bushes
Road to the Forgotten Forest - 5 trees, road tiles and a bridge

There is also a small castle set, goes for pretty cheap,
Fortress of the Archkyrie

A lot of people said the same thing as you guys, that the secondary market is insane for some of this stuff, a $20 Aquilas Alliance monsterpack from 2007 keeps selling on ebay for close to $200 frequently. One of the main reasons most think hasbro dropped heroscape was because they wanted to concentrate on their core games ( thats what they told us ) Like Magic the gathering , plus they felt it was too much plastic for the price ( thats what we assumed)

Also they recently started using the heroscape interlocking tile system ( which they have patented) to display Avengers figures.

A bunch of us have tried to make copies of these tiles but they never seem to fit right, its easier to buy the cheap castle tiles from Auggies and flock or paint those. ( About .33 cents each)

I am sure there is more but I really should get back to work, any questions about heroscape I would be happy to answer as its my favorite game.
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on May 24, 2012, 10:24:39 PM
Thanks for the link !

Nice stuff here :

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/gallery/browseimages.php?c=9&userid=
Title: My heroscape project.
Post by: sundayhero on March 24, 2013, 05:53:06 PM
Hi,

Digging this topic since I decided to pimp my heroscape sets for my solitaire games. The goal is to have something very modular, and not too ugly to watch.

I started with the grass tiles. I first made a try flocking the hexes, but it didn't work so well (my modelling flock was a bit too big and bright to fit well). So I decided to keep my hexes with factory texture and sculpting without adding new textures. All the "pimp" will be on painting and washing.

The general view of "grass" tiles. The biggest set of all. I painted the top of the hexes with an homemade "gobelin green-ish" paint (cheap art yellow lemon, primary blue, mate black paintsI found in a 1dollar store + arts mate medium). Then, I dry brushed some lemon yellow with an old big brush (from hardware store).

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P3240149_zps61c1cfd4.jpg)

I'm quite satisfied with the result (Fast painted D&D minis from Wrath of Ashardalon box set) :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P3240152_zps7d292f8f.jpg)

Now I need to wash the tiles borders, and apply a light brown drybrush on edges. The grass tiles are the only ones wich are "bicolor" (green top and brown sides).


I also primed the other sets : stone, snow, and sand.

The biggest set of 3 is the stone one. Because it will be used for diferent uses : pavement, mountain, and also dungeon caverns. Since I'm also building a "built" dungeon (I mean something created by humans, dwarfs, monsters) :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/dungeontiles_zps74601e85.jpg)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/feltdetals_zps412dae97.jpg)



 I wanted to be able to build a more "organic" cavern set. Heroscape was perfect for this purpose, I'll post photos of my tests soon.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P3240173_zps662d24ad.jpg)


The 2nd set is snow. For now, it's incomplete since I have to make my own ice hexes with cristal resin. I already bought plumber silicon cartdrigde and corn starch to make my own cheap silicon molds. I made quite numerous tiles, so I will be able to use them to simulate high mountains, but also nordic lands or frozen caverns. Anyone remember IceWind Dale ?  ;)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P3240164_zps3b9ca0b6.jpg)



The last set, the smaller one, representing sand, or any "brown" pavement (like in some precolumbian buildings, egyptian, etc...). I made some of them to complete my chronopia lizardmen.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P3240167_zps9f121300.jpg)



I also have a big set of water tiles (normal and sparkly ones) that I'll detail with paint, and also texture (mix of gloss medium and heavy gel, I think).


Of course, I still have a lot of work, washing and brushing tiles sets, creating the ice hexes, and make the water hexes.



To be continued...
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: HerbyF on March 25, 2013, 08:34:39 AM
I have a bunch of hexes I have picked up cheap a second hand stores.
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on March 25, 2013, 10:08:15 AM
I picked up mine last year, 4 "master sets" ("Valkyrie something"), 2 complete ones with accessories and minis, 1 complete without minis, and one completly new, each one for around 30euros.

I think it's not that expensive, comparing for "2d" gaming mats. Of course everything home made could be cheaper, but I don't have much time for that.
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on March 25, 2013, 07:34:56 PM
Today's progress :

I finished the grass tiles. I washed the borders of the tiles, and then applied a light brown dry brush :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P3250192_zps201d0543.jpg)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P3250195_zpse980f1c0.jpg)



Now I'm working on rock tiles. I first applied some washes on the entire tiles.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P3250200_zpsbab381a4.jpg)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P3250207_zpse84f0abd.jpg)


Tommorow I'll add a very slight green wash, and dry brush everything in light grey. If I have enough time, I'll make some mold for my ice hexes.

to be continued...

Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: A_Train on March 26, 2013, 01:15:14 PM
Those tiles are looking pretty sharp compared to the original colours.
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on March 26, 2013, 07:43:54 PM
Thanks !

Today I finished the rock tiles. Here's a bad night photo. I'll do a better one tommorow.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P3260219_zps42a3f2ef.jpg)
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: AndrewBeasley on March 26, 2013, 10:51:22 PM
Nice set of tiles you are painting there.

I've got  small set tucked away ready for a project down the line and have been following Grisnakhs long running thread (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=448) on Heroscapers since I first came across the game (scroll a long way down - or spend a long time reading).

Another interesting thread is a Battletech map on TerraGenesis - a couple of these have been built inspired by the hex tile idea and the only I like is here (http://www.terragenesis.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5871&sort=0&start=30)
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on March 27, 2013, 09:50:04 AM
Thanks !

Yes I knew the heroscapers thread. Actually it gave me the idea of buying cheap used sets to improve them and use them in my own games (like battletech).

Now with the lack of battletech opponents, I will use these sets for solitaire gaming (two hour wargames games, mostly).

Today I don't work, so I 'll finish the snow and sand tiles. Tommorow I'll make the molds for the ice hexes. I'm not sure on how I'll do them : I've got some crystal resin, but I'm afraid maybe it will be too translucid for ice...Maybe I should sand it (with 800grit  paper or something) from the interior to make them a bit more opaque...Well, we'll see.

Now it's time to drybrush some tiles. On the sand tiles, I will not make washes (since wet treatment sounds weird to make desert sand, in my opinion  lol), but I'll do a very light blue wash on the snow tiles.


I'll post results asap.
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on March 27, 2013, 01:19:26 PM
The sand/desert are done :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P3270227_zpsff237fb2.jpg)



The snow/nordic tiles are under progress. I first wanted to add a blue wash, but it didn't stick to the white primer. So I applied blue traces with an "almost dry" brush technic.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P3270239_zps405bee44.jpg)

Now I have to dry brush in pure white the edges to finish it.


To be continued !
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on March 27, 2013, 04:46:45 PM
Here's the pics of the nordic tileset  :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P3270260_zpsd4307484.jpg)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P3270248_zps7c4e10b9.jpg)


Now, last stages are :


making ice

making water

making trees

"pimping" the heroscape ruins
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on April 01, 2013, 12:20:55 PM
Next steps :

I'm currently pimping the water tiles.

I first painted them (sponge technic, from dark to light blue) :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P3310276_zpsb732e028.jpg)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P3310279_zpsd92d41d0.jpg)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P3310285_zps3ea1efe7.jpg)



And then, I applied a mix of gloss acrylic medium + heavy gel, to create some 3d waves on them :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P4010291_zpsc721c640.jpg)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P4010289_zps38798f5a.jpg)


Unfortunatly, the heavygel I owned is not that much translucid, so some of the "waves and ripples" I created still a bit white. I'll wait until tommorow (I made them yesterday), and if it not turns perfectly clear, I'll just repaint the whole set (using the same technic of sponge). The only issue is that I will lost the "deep" effect I have.


I'm also trying to make my 1st casting attempt to realize some custom made ice tiles. The result is around average, for now...and the resin takes ages to dry (after 24hours it stills a bit soft and sticky), even if I bought some expensive 2 compound modelling crystal resin.  lol


To be continued !
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: FramFramson on April 01, 2013, 04:30:15 PM
Now those look really nice!
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on April 01, 2013, 07:36:40 PM
Thanks !

I hope the water tiles will turn clear, but I doubt it...

The ice hexes I made yesterday still a bit soft and sticky...Even if the drying time is over since 12am, in theory  lol


So not everything is how I wanted, but I'll fix what I can and finish these sets.

I also have to make some extra sets for outside playing (trees, ruins, and bridges first, then later, some villages buildings).




I'm also working on my 3d dungeon (I have to post a topic on that too)...
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: jet on April 02, 2013, 12:47:54 AM
This stuff looks great and I just remembered that I have a Heroscape box out in my garage, long-forgotten. I'm stealing the idea of repainting them grey and then using them as underground caverns for mu Pulp, Horror, and Fantasy games.
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on April 02, 2013, 11:08:32 AM
That's what pushed me again (after a long time pause) in that project. I'm currently working on a "classic" (castle/crypt style) 3d dungeon, and I wanted to be able to create modular caverns too. So I thought about the heroscape sets I bought mostly for battletech could be used this way.

Then, I thought that I should add some winter scenery to create frozen caverns...etc, etc...  lol


Today I have to fix my water tiles. The medium/heavy gel mix didn't go perfectly translucid (too much heavygel I guess). So I'll have to find a trick  :D

I'll have to cast some new ice tiles (for now I made 6 hexes...I can make 3 each day)...It will be a lot of work sanding and trimming, but I believe the goal will be completed.


I'll post result today.
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on April 02, 2013, 06:19:43 PM
Hi,


Here's the progress for today.

It seems that the water tiles slooooooowly dry, finally. Some of them are perfectly translucid. I also added a deep blue wash on them :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P4020296_zpscbad38a8.jpg)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P4020311_zpsed8f9cff.jpg)



But as you can see, some of them still a bit white :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P4020300_zps67dd5a86.jpg)

I'll try to dry them fast with a hairdryer. I have to make a last gloss varnish coat too.




I also washed the ruins with black. I'll drybrush in light grey, and add some brown and green washes to finish them. Maybe also a bit of modelling flock.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P4020302_zps0f6b4376.jpg)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P4020306_zps6d0644d2.jpg)




TO conclude, my ice tiles. It was harder to do than I expected. The drying is so slow...On the pic, the hexes are not ready to play. Some trimming and sanding is needed.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P4020314_zpscc0e9169.jpg)



My set will include about a dozen of hexes. Here's a pic of an almost finish hex (I need to sand it a bit more, but I have to buy sandpaper tommorow morning first). As you can see, it stills a bit translucid, like the real thing. If that resin was cheaper, I 'd love to make entire walls using that technic.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P4020320_zpse44d7f33.jpg)



That's all for today.
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on April 04, 2013, 10:18:30 AM
The water tiles are completed.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P4040328_zps142cfa97.jpg)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P4040325_zps780701b0.jpg)



Some example pics :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P4040330_zps96907948.jpg)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P4040340_zps44906b21.jpg)


I still need to polish the ice hexes, but it's almost done.

Now I have to finish the extra ices hexes, and make the accessories for each set (bridges, cristals, trees, palms, rocks, etc....).
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on April 05, 2013, 10:07:46 AM
I finished the ruins scenery. Once again, fast "factory style" work :

a black wash
a light grey drybrush
a brown glaze
a green wash

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P4050014_zps74a939e4.jpg)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P4050020_zps1e596296.jpg)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P4050029_zps4d96e38e.jpg)



The last "boring" things I have to do are the trees. I've got everything I need for that. Then, I'll go again on my 3d dungeon (funnier) and start "outdoor" scenery (taverns, buildings...a lot of fun too).

Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on April 07, 2013, 07:22:00 PM
Hi,

Here's some new pics of the finished sets. Tonight I had a little fun making a small dungeon and a few (bad) situation photos :



(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P4070066_zps0d3b431d.jpg)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P4070054_zps7804e7d7.jpg)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P4070057_zps4046b390.jpg)


I used mostly only rock set tiles (all of them). For a bigger dungeon, I'll have to mix with other sets, or make the walls small (here, 4 rows stack).


Of course, I also need to add some accessories (crystals, mushrooms, etc...). But it make some decent caverns.


Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on May 15, 2013, 03:28:21 PM
I was not happy with the "grass tiles", just painted. So I made some flocking tests, mixing some home made modelling flock (wood dust I stained in diferent green shades).

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P5150423_zpscc279c72.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P5150423_zpscc279c72.jpg.html)

FOr people who does'nt know heroscape system, why I don't cover the entire hex ? Because the tiles cannot stack correctly if I do that. So I had to find a good modelling flock color.

As you can see, the mix I found work pretty well once I apply an extra coat of diluted PVA glue. That way, the color matches the hexes painted board pretty well. And it gives extra strenght (very difficult to remove the modelling flock now). The other technics I tried are not as good as this.

Now, the boring side of this discovery...I have to cover hundred of hexes  lol





Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: A_Train on May 15, 2013, 04:36:41 PM
The tiles can stack if you flock the entire tile, check out page one of this thread where I posted my own.  I suppose you couldn't go wile with it, but I still stack my completely flocked tiles without issue.
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on May 15, 2013, 04:43:36 PM
What I wanted to say is that you can stack them, but the "space" between tiles become more visible (due to modelling flock coat thickness). You loose a bit of the hill effect heroscape tiles gives when they are stacked "correctly". At least for what I saw on several pics on internet.

I believe it's a matter of choice  : better surface result with entirely flocked hexes, or better stacking hills effect with partially flocked tiles. IMHO.  ;)
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: A_Train on May 15, 2013, 05:23:53 PM
I don't have any gaps in my tiles, but perhaps my flocking is not as thick as what you saw on the interent.   Eitherway works though.  I did start with just the centers flocked, and then added the edges later.
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on May 15, 2013, 05:37:52 PM
Good if it worked for you. My homemade modelling flock is not very fine, so I'm afraid it will not be good for proper stacking if I cover the entire tiles.

By the way, I'm currently flocking the tiles...it's boring and with no end  lol I just made about 1/3 of the tiles yet... and just the first stage  lol
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: A_Train on May 15, 2013, 08:27:02 PM
Oh, I recall exactly how boring flocking was.  In fact, I still have some I should be flocking, but I can't be bothered.   It was not fun.
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on May 17, 2013, 07:22:31 PM
Yes, it's not fun at all. But tiles after tiles, each day, the set is almost completed.


I flocked and varnished  (= 2nd stage with diluted pva, wich make the modelling flock dark and strong enough) all the small grass tiles (and a big one...On the pic you can see also another big tile not varnished) :

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P5170459_zps67803e0a.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P5170459_zps67803e0a.jpg.html)


I flocked (but not varnished) 9 big tiles. Tonight I'll "varnish" them.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P5170454_zpsc3887931.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P5170454_zpsc3887931.jpg.html)



So it remains 8 big tiles to flock and "varnish", I hope to do that during week end.

Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on May 24, 2013, 02:41:09 PM
It's done finally !

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/slotdem/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P5220047_zps3c95faab.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/slotdem/media/miniature%20heroes%20and%20villains/P5220047_zps3c95faab.jpg.html)



Forget about the 1tile and half not varnished on pic (the purpose was to show you the before/after result), everything is completed.

Now, it 's time to make some trees...

To be continued  8)

Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on October 08, 2013, 07:20:37 PM
here's some news about this project. I can't believe it took this long  :o

I built some trees, both for battletech (6mm) and fantasy (28mm). It will be good for 10mm also, a new scale I'm waiting to experiment.

Here's some preview pics. I still need to put modelling flock on the bases.



Of course I made the trees myself, with metal wire, fiber and modelling flock.
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on October 10, 2013, 09:13:27 PM
The trees are finished !


Most of them can be used for battletech or 10mm fantasy, but the biggest ones are more for 28mm fantasy.

A new step in my Heroscape basic scenery set. Next will be bridges and roads, I think. 
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on September 18, 2020, 09:22:57 PM
Digging very old topic !

TOnight I sorted my old heroscape tiles, cleaned them etc... and build a simple (around) 4x4 table for fun.

I plan to use this set for battletech of course, but perhaps also for solo gaming like rangers of shadowdeep.

I have to build new forets and scatter terrain for it.
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: AndrewBeasley on September 19, 2020, 08:28:08 PM
Interesting to see your water has ripples as mine where smooth.


I've just downsized to a fixed size 9 x 9 board for One Hour Wargames and Portable Wargames and put the rest on eBay.  Just cannot cope with big boards now :-)
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: Bloggard on September 19, 2020, 08:47:47 PM
yeah, love the heroquest hexes look.

tried to get into it a few yrs back, but was too rich for my blood, even tho' full boxes were still available from shops at that point ... anyhow, you're getting great results there, even if it is a '7rys later' story  ;)
Title: Re: Heroscape scenery anyone ?
Post by: sundayhero on September 20, 2020, 01:11:38 PM
thanks

For the water I sponge painted them to bring some details to the surface, but keeping the "synthetic" blue color wich matches better the whole set in my opinion.

THen, with acrylic gloss medium I added ripples on the surface of the hexes.