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Title: Robot riot!
Post by: abbot_amaury on February 07, 2008, 07:33:53 PM
Dr. Kroon's new masterplan to overthrow the world revealed! Take a look at the shocking pictures...


(http://repository.amazing-tintales.de/modern/pulp/gruppenbild_4.jpg)
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Post by: Operator5 on February 07, 2008, 07:52:24 PM
His diabolical genius knows no bounds!

That is beautiful work. I have all those miniatures and mine don't look nearly half as good.  :)
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Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on February 07, 2008, 07:53:01 PM
science madness  :o  :love:
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Post by: Aaron on February 07, 2008, 07:57:09 PM
That's is a beautiful job. I still suspect witchcraft is involved.
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Post by: Mo on February 07, 2008, 08:05:47 PM
Man, I love that metallic and black effect on the robots. They look very, very menacing.

Great job!

Marc
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Post by: revford on February 07, 2008, 08:10:15 PM
Top Stuff.   :love:

The skin tone on the Prof is great and that metalwork has a great shine to it.
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Post by: vikotnik on February 07, 2008, 08:27:25 PM
Brilliant paint job!

The robots are killer stuff!!! :o  :o

Did You use any washes over the metallics?
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Post by: Hammers on February 07, 2008, 09:13:20 PM
Quote from: "abbot_amaury"
Dr. Kroon's new masterplan to overthrow the world revealed! Take a look at the shocking pictures...


(http://www.amazing-tintales.de/amazing%20tintales/robot%20riot/group.jpg)


That may be the best metal I have ever seen. Do you use grafite or something to get that finnish or are you just as talented blending metal acrylics as with the plain ones?
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Post by: Le matou rouge on February 07, 2008, 09:32:46 PM
Extraordinaire !
Flashy is already back, and it works with metallics too
 :o  :love:  :wink:

Fantastic work again, Hagen : keep it up !

meow,
Matt
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Post by: theoldschool on February 07, 2008, 10:02:05 PM
That's without doubt the best metal I have seen. Who needs NMM? Stunning  :o  :o
Pat
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Post by: pixelgeek on February 07, 2008, 10:52:35 PM
Wow. Stunning work. Great metallics.
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Post by: redzed on February 07, 2008, 11:09:25 PM
uhhmmmm metalics. :love:
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Post by: Phil Robinson on February 07, 2008, 11:11:37 PM
Sweet :love:
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Post by: Trooper on February 07, 2008, 11:32:44 PM
Forgive my ignorance but what make are the robots?
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Post by: revford on February 07, 2008, 11:40:44 PM
Quote from: "Trooper"
Forgive my ignorance but what make are the robots?


They look like the Hydra ones to me:

http://shop.hydraminiatures.com/index.php?cPath=2_31
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Post by: Hydra on February 08, 2008, 12:29:14 AM
Those robots look spectacular! You must share your metallic technique with the group. When you see metallics painted like this, NMM look very flat and greyed-out in comparison.

As a miniature sculptor, one of my biggest pleasures is to see how different artists painted and converted my sculpts.  The outstanding painting in this photo really made my day!
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Post by: Agis on February 08, 2008, 06:52:42 AM
Very, very nice job. Especially the metallic effect looks very fitting and "heavy"!
Share your secret... :wink:
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Post by: Jules on February 08, 2008, 08:08:57 AM
What total and utter rubbish... Oh no thats my stuff!!....:(

Abbott that is fantastic work clearly you have sold your soul to the devil it can be the only explanation.  

So I'm with the burn the witch crowd...BURN BURN BURN. quietly pushes all models in view under a piece of newspaper Burn the witch he's making evil models of people to control them.. HAAHAHA....[/i]
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Post by: Malamute on February 08, 2008, 08:43:32 AM
Oh My! :D  :o  :love:
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Post by: MaxxVane on February 08, 2008, 08:57:24 AM
Superb paint job

Are there any UK stockists of the Hydra figs ?
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Post by: Rufus on February 08, 2008, 09:45:09 AM
Awesome work.
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Post by: Tri3 on February 08, 2008, 01:04:12 PM
abbot_amaury,

You must share your metal painting technique.  I want to be able to paint like I know what I am doing.  :D
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Post by: JollyBob on February 08, 2008, 01:41:38 PM
If you'll excuse me:

Heyyyyy, Abbott!

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb155/GrunterPulpit/images.jpg)


C'mon man, spill it! We all want to know how you manage such incredible metals.
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Post by: Gluteus Maximus on February 08, 2008, 01:42:22 PM
Yes, as many have already said, the metallics are superb. However, I also love the white on the scientist's coat.

It's very hard to get a good tone when shading white, IMO, but you've done a splendid job  8)  :love:
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Post by: Super_Gibbon on February 08, 2008, 01:42:26 PM
Fan-fricking-tastic. Spill the beans on your method, please.
And where did the scientist come from? He seems essential now if I want to get pulpy robots.
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Post by: Torradas on February 08, 2008, 02:23:51 PM
:o

The cheek of some people! Dropping gorgeous work like these for all we poor mortals to gawk at jaws dropped and then not giving us the secret formula for that wonderfully done VMM (VERY Metallic Metal).

Abbot Amaury is surely laughing in his lair, like the Evil Genius he is. He will drive us all insane!

Pray do spill the beans on your technique. Please. I´ll mail you a kidney.
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Post by: Grimm on February 08, 2008, 03:47:33 PM
Verdamt noch mal !!!!!!

 :o  :o  :o

how did you make them so shiny !!!!!

 :love:

Grimm
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Post by: Operator5 on February 08, 2008, 04:08:30 PM
Quote from: "Super_Gibbon"
And where did the scientist come from? He seems essential now if I want to get pulpy robots.

You can find him here:

http://rattrapproductions.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4_5&products_id=21
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Post by: The Dozing Dragon on February 08, 2008, 04:41:21 PM
Simply superb paintjob. The colour scheme for the robots hits the mark. Share that method!
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Post by: abbot_amaury on February 08, 2008, 07:56:08 PM
Thanks guys!

On the technique: I wasn't that sure how to paint the robots when I started. I like NMM but imho it works better on smaller parts/areas of a model e.g. on swords or axes and not that well on the big parts (just a matter of taste). Besides of that it would have been a lot of work to nmm these big models...

So I used my old GW metallic paints: a mixture of black/boltgun metal as the first layer - than boltgun, chainmail and mithril for highlighting. During the highlighting I tried some thinned black ink but was not fully satisfied. Finally I brushed some weathering powder on the minis which worked quite well. It's the  flask on the right in the photo. The spots on the stickers of the flask an on the white board may give you an idea of the characteristics of that stuff. You brush it on and remove the surplus with a tissue.

(http://repository.amazing-tintales.de/painting/weatheringpowder.jpg)

I discovered that powder somewhere in the cellar of my parents long ago. And I have been searching for a similar powder but never found anything that is nearly as good (the original manufacturer has removed the powder from his product range over 20 years ago - I called them once :cry: ). The only thing that is usable (but not quite as good) is some color pigment I bought in an artists shop (the flask on the left). I think it is used for mixing acrylics and oil paints normally....

The problem of the other weathering powders is imho - well that they are powders. The old stuff I prefer is more like dust so it adheres much better to a minis surface (the particle size seems to be smaller), while the powders simply falls of...



On the guns I used GW gold (with black), some flesh wash and the weatering powder again.

Hope that helps. Any suggestions on good weathering powder (or dust!) are highly appreciated :wink:

Cheers,
Hagen
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Post by: Rhoderic on February 08, 2008, 08:07:02 PM
I don't suppose that kind of weathering powder would look good on other stuff besides machines? Probably a weird thought, but I have a sudden urge to find some of that stuff and try it for a "quick and dirty" painting style on other (non-robot) miniatures.

Nah... the more I think about it, the more daft it sounds :oops:
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Post by: Aaron on February 08, 2008, 08:13:47 PM
I wonder if printer/fax toner would work. It is about as fine as you can get.
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Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on February 08, 2008, 08:16:07 PM
Thanks, Hagen! Very usefull, going to try it soon.

I've got the "Black Smut" from Star Dust weathering pigments from CMK and thats really like dust . I can't imagine the powder particles are smaller than this one

(http://forum.backofbeyond.de/images/misc/08_02_08_star_dust.jpg)
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Post by: Westfalia Chris on February 08, 2008, 08:20:47 PM
Quote from: "Aaron"
I wonder if printer/fax toner would work. It is about as fine as you can get.


Stay clear of that stuff, it´s toxic at least, if not carcinogenic. Better get some pastels or real soot - artists use the stuff for staining paint.
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Post by: Aaron on February 08, 2008, 08:24:17 PM
Unfortunately I'm usually the guy who gets to replace the cartidges at work. They always leak a bit, which is why I am well aquainted with the fineness of granularity.
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Post by: Gluteus Maximus on February 08, 2008, 09:28:40 PM
Have you tried the stuff the railway modellers use? The results they get using their weathering powders can be stunning.

Sadly, apart from the magic dust, I have all the paints you mention, but can't get results half as good as yours :cry:

Oh, I know, you forgot to mention the essential ingredient - talent!  :lol:  :lol:
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Post by: twrchtrwyth on February 08, 2008, 11:00:51 PM
They're excellent. 8)
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Post by: Torradas on February 08, 2008, 11:05:41 PM
Tamiya weathering powders are ladies make-up thin. And they come in a ladies make-up box too.

Have a gander:
(http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/list/maintenance/img/87085.jpeg)

These are the "C Set" stated to do the following:
Quote
Orange Rust (for orange/red tinted rusty metal
Gun Metal (for unpolished metal look)
Silver (for polished metal look)


All the different sets at:
http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/87080weathering/index.htm

I´ve never used them personally (they are a bit pricey) but I have seen very realistic rust effects achieved with this "make-up" set :)
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Post by: Le matou rouge on February 08, 2008, 11:07:22 PM
Quote from: "abbot_amaury"

I discovered that powder somewhere in the cellar of my parents long ago.


What a great introduction for a pulp story...

And I was sure there was a magic product in the recipe someway    :mrgreen:  :wink:

meow,
Matt
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Post by: abbot_amaury on February 09, 2008, 11:40:02 PM
Some good ideas/suggestions, thank you very much - I will try (my favorite at the moment is the 'Star dust')!

Quote from: "Rhoderic"
I don't suppose that kind of weathering powder would look good on other stuff besides machines? Probably a weird thought, but I have a sudden urge to find some of that stuff and try it for a "quick and dirty" painting style on other (non-robot) miniatures.

Nah... the more I think about it, the more daft it sounds :oops:
Doesn't sound daft at all! Back in the old times (when the flask was half full) I used it very often on 'normal' minis. I painted with revell enamels back then (uh, those dark times). There was
  enamels. The weathering stuff worked best on the satin colors. On the glossy colors the adhesion was to weak, on the matts it was to strong and on the satin it was quite perfect. Anyway you would have to try how the powder would work with the colors you use.
BTW: whenever I was supposed to paint a whole army (say 100-200 minis) I would try this old technique first...

Quote from: "Gluteus Maximus"
Have you tried the stuff the railway modellers use? The results they get using their weathering powders can be stunning.
I tried some brands but was not satisified. It is just not as good as the arcane dust from my parent's cellar...  :?

Cheers,
Hagen

PS: I just remembered: the scarf of Biggles (see my avatar) was done with the weathering powder on acrylics (with some additional highlighting)...
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Post by: Tri3 on February 11, 2008, 01:38:19 PM
Noooooo magic powder that can not be obtained.  :(

Seems like you should send some off to a Chemist and have him make some for you.  :mrgreen: