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Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: Terrible Tim on October 11, 2006, 03:38:29 AM
Some of my old Citadel Samurai minis, any suggestions?
(sorry for the poor quality pictures)

Ronin:
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2507/ronin1yn7.jpg)

Samurai (a little glossy in this picture):
(http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9427/samurai1yr2.jpg)

TT.
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: Lurch on October 11, 2006, 09:03:20 AM
I like the Samurai! Good paintjob. I like this subdued (right englisch expression?) colours.

What a coincidence, just yesterday night I prepared excatly the same mini to be undercoated (together with 7 others).

I bought him last year from foundry. I am a little afraid to paint them, because some have so many details on them.

Do you have more pictures? I have never seen this citadel Samurais painted.
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: WitchfinderGeneral on October 11, 2006, 01:38:31 PM
Quote from: "Lurch"
I bought him last year from foundry.

Wargames Foundry are selling OOP Citadel Nippons?  :?:


I like this Ronin, his face is looking great.
And I think I have an orc from that time that has exactly the same knock-knees. *g*

Maybe I should pick up some Citadel Nippons as well. A small, selected hit squad could always be usefull...


Can you tell me if they have got slot bases?
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: Terrible Tim on October 11, 2006, 10:52:40 PM
No, these are pre-slot bases. There must be a large variety, I have about 50 and only a few doubles.

I would like to see you paint samurai minis. Do it Witchfinder! Buy some!

TT.
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: Lurch on October 13, 2006, 03:28:45 PM
Quote
Wargames Foundry are selling OOP Citadel Nippons?  :?:


Are you just wondering that they do or do you think I am wrong?

This are 4 of the figs I bought from foundry. Maybe it was not last year but the year before.

(http://people.freenet.de/quest/samurai.jpg)

And I am quite sure that the second from left is the same as Tim painted.
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: Terrible Tim on October 13, 2006, 11:42:39 PM
Foundry have the moulds for the Citadel's 80's Oriental Heroes and are selling them in these 'Archive Catalogue' packs:

Quote: "SAM1 contains 6 Samurai (seem to be lords), SAM2 contains 6 Samurai each in different poses, SAM5 contains 5 Samurai and 1 ninja in different poses. SAM3 & 4 contain 6 Ashigaru in different poses. Bernard (Foundry Staff member)"
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/archive.asp

And here is a link for the old Citadel range:
http://www.solegends.com/citc/c05orientals.htm
(They are only drawn pictures)

TT.
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: WitchfinderGeneral on October 14, 2006, 02:05:23 AM
Quote from: "Lurch"
Quote
Wargames Foundry are selling OOP Citadel Nippons?  :?:

Are you just wondering that they do or do you think I am wrong?

I don't know, this sounds very strange to me. But now as 2 people say so... damn, this is fucking crazy. Always when it comes to re-issues GW/Citadel says there won't be any and claims all moulds have been destroyed etc... and now I read that one can buy from another company some minis that have been out of production for decades...


Tim, I'll paint some for sure. But I've got to be choosy. I don't want more than 5 - 10 of them so only those I really like come in my collection.
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: Terrible Tim on October 14, 2006, 07:43:02 AM
I do not know how Foundry have the moulds. Maybe the moulds where sold when Citadel was a seperate identity to GW - sorry I do not know for sure.

I read on the net some where, that in the late 70s (when Steve Jackson was on the scene) and early 80s, Citadel produced historical and fastasy miniatures. I can remember in the 80s, that Citadel was making the miniatures and GW was writing the games. I think it was the late 80s that GW took over the whole operation.

If anyone has any more information, please comment - as I am now old (40) and my mind does not work as well as it once did :D .

TT.
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: LeadAsbestos on October 14, 2006, 09:48:20 AM
I was under the impression that Foundry has a number of old Citadel lines available, inc. these Samurai and the older Vikings. I have a few older slotta-base Vikings that are under production as cast-on base models from Foundry.
I believe you have to call up Foundry to get the samurai packs, as they seem to have slipped into "archive hell."
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: matakishi on October 14, 2006, 11:43:57 AM
If you order all the packs you get the ninja free!

Foundry have always had these figures for sale, right from the start when they were Wargames Foundry because they sold all the Citadel historical lines once Citadel stopped marketing them directly.

i bought my complete range in 2005.
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: Terrible Tim on October 15, 2006, 07:58:10 AM
How many models are in the complete range?

TT.
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: matakishi on October 15, 2006, 11:53:38 AM
There's 30 including the ninja which you only get if you order all the others.
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: Terrible Tim on October 15, 2006, 01:47:41 PM
I have about 50 (I have not actualy counted them, some are doubles) and also the ninja - all bought in the 80s from Citadel. Some of them I bought as a box set and came it with a ogre mage. I am not sure if you can still get that ogre mini. If I have some time this week,  I will dig them all out of their storage box and take a photo and post it on the forum. It maybe of interest to some.

TT.
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: matakishi on October 15, 2006, 02:00:16 PM
Foundry don't do any of the oriental goblins etc. since they are fantasy and were retained by Citadel.

Later slotta base figures will be exclusively Citadel or GW also.

The 30 Foundry figures contain all the one I originally bought as they were released and several I'd never seen before. They are all Aly morrison sculpts, the first work he did for Citadel.
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: WitchfinderGeneral on October 15, 2006, 06:50:18 PM
Quote from: "matakishi"
Later slotta base figures will be exclusively Citadel or GW also.

So they were later not re-released (from Citadel) with a slot base instead of the cast-on base?
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: LeadAsbestos on October 15, 2006, 08:11:54 PM
Photos, boys. Detailed close-up photos are the only way to be sure.

(I'd like to get these minis too, so a look at what is out there would really help! I love  :love:  painting old Citadel, and I need some Samurai.)
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: WitchfinderGeneral on October 15, 2006, 09:57:34 PM
I was watching this samurai on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=016&item=260039570522), I like the look of this mini very much, but it was too expensive.
Any info on it?
It has a slot base but it would be awesome if one could get it as pre-slotta for a few pence from Foundry.  :lol:
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: Grimm on October 18, 2006, 06:18:02 PM
Hi TT sorry I have only the pictures of the ninjas the samurai are lost
I will  search my old wd`s at the weekend  for more pictures OK ?


(http://www.dminis.com/images/img.1161190850742.JPG)

(http://www.dminis.com/images/img.1161191405762.JPG)
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: PeteMurray on October 18, 2006, 06:25:44 PM
Remember when Citadel didn't suck, and had lots of neat and wacky miniatures? Thanks for the picture, Grimm...
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: matakishi on October 18, 2006, 06:27:06 PM
The Foundry range contains the original Citadel samurai from about 1981. The later releases with slotta bases are all different figures and none of the ealy ones were remoulded as far as I know.

The next time I take some photographs I'll try to remember to take a group photo of all the poses.
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: Terrible Tim on October 19, 2006, 12:05:16 AM
Thanks for the pictures Grimm. A large selection of ninjas.

I do not have any of these ninjs, I do have some pre-slota base ninjas, which I will photograph and post this weekend.

TT.
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: matakishi on October 19, 2006, 09:14:13 PM
here's a picture of the existing Foundry Samurai figures:

(http://www.matakishi.com/WF%20samurai%201%20600.jpg)

There are actualy two ninjas in the set. Ninjas are notoriously hard to photograph but if you look closely, you can see them here:

(http://www.matakishi.com/Ninja%202%20600.jpg)

They are the front two in the centre, the one with the kusari gama is the limited edition that you get free when you order the other 30.
The rest are Dixon Miniatures.
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: LeadAsbestos on October 20, 2006, 12:45:18 AM
:o  :D  :love:

Matakishi, my good man, you kick some serious a$$!!

Now I must go order...
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: Terrible Tim on October 20, 2006, 02:51:18 PM
Great pictures Matakishi. That confirms that all of the Foundy minis are the old Citadel Oriental range, including the 2 ninjas. It looks like there is only 1 samurai I don't have  :) . I also have a Citadel ogre mage which was release in the 80s as a box set with some samurai :mrgreen: . I will have to take a picture.....

TT.
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: Grimm on October 20, 2006, 03:44:01 PM
Hey which one do you not have ?
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: Terrible Tim on October 23, 2006, 12:20:38 AM
Here is the Citadel Oriental Heroes box set. It was painted in 1985 by a friend, Daniel Alexander. Sorry for the poor pictures, I need to practice more:
The complete box set:
(http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/1336/group1hg7.jpg)

Ogre:
(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2711/ogre1wr9.jpg)

Close ups:
(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/797/group2su5.jpg)

(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3893/group3aj0.jpg)

TT.
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: LeadAsbestos on October 23, 2006, 01:42:50 AM
Great set! Despite what people may say abt the cartoony sculpts, I'm a devoted fan of the old Citadel style. I still think that they look great on the tabletop, esp. w/ a great paintjob!
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: matakishi on October 23, 2006, 01:07:15 PM
The original box set of citadel samurai had 10 miniatures in it and didn't contain the ogre. There was a companion set of oriental goblins, again with ten miniatures, that included a dog handler.

They must have released the ogre later as I've never seen it before :( It's nice and fits well with the style of the humans.
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: Grimm on October 23, 2006, 03:36:20 PM
here are the pictures of me ld citadell samurai ,Ithink it is interesting for you guys .



(http://www.dminis.com/images/img.1161613950439.JPG)

(http://www.dminis.com/images/img.1161613898050.JPG)

(http://www.dminis.com/images/img.1161613851433.JPG)
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: LeadAsbestos on October 23, 2006, 06:14:50 PM
Looking to sell or trade any of that lot???
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: Terrible Tim on October 23, 2006, 11:42:49 PM
matakishi are you sure about the ogre? Because as far as I remember I purchased it in the Oriental Heroes box set - but it was more than 20 years.

TT.
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: LeadAsbestos on October 24, 2006, 04:42:56 AM
Here it is:
http://www.solegends.com/citboxes/dl1orientalheroes.htm
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: matakishi on October 24, 2006, 08:50:57 AM
Yup, that's it. 12 figues, my mstake, but as you say- it was 23 years ago :)
Title: TT's Old Citadel Samurai minis
Post by: Terrible Tim on October 24, 2006, 11:42:52 PM
I have all those minis. I wonder if the ogre mage was sold seperately? Does anyone know? I can not remember how I bought it.

TT.