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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Elbows on July 11, 2012, 02:30:26 AM
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Hey guys,
I've gotten a bug up my arse to start building a collection of 1/200 Macross (Robotech) models for a possible game. However, short of ebay, I can't find any legitimate looking websites which sell the models. A google search is nothing short of terrifying. There are so many nameless bulk/shady looking websites hawking Anime models it makes my head spin.
Does anyone here stateside know of a few good, reliable sites for purchasing some mecha? I know it's a broad question.
Thanks in advance.
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Well, the 1/200 scale does look to be a bit thin on the ground at Hobby Link Japan...
http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljlist?SeriesID=934&DisplayMode=images&Dis=2&Sort=std&set=1&Scale2=200
And Big In Japan had nothing as far as I could see. So I suppose it's off to eBay with you then, eh? 8)
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The original release of those 1/200 Macross kits was back in the early eighties. A lot of them were re-released for the twentieth anniversary, but that's pushing ten years ago as well. I doubt if you'll find many outside of ebay.
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If you move up a few scales, there is this:
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/Shaz4/japana83.jpg)
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That's a Gundam tho isn't it? 8)
Some Macross still gets made in 1/100 scale (they have a somewhat nifty looking workshop piece coming up for example) but that's a little on the big side too maybe.
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Yes, but Gundam, Transformers, etc., all look alike to me..... lol
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The 1/200 scale Macross kits are getting as rare as hen's teeth now. There are a couple available at Comet Models but apart from that, E-bay is likely to be your only option.
One thing to bear in mind is that the Nichimo 1/200 kits come with two models in each box (exactly the same apart from colour) so when you are bidding, don't forget.
Rarity wise, the Glaug Officer Pod is impossible to find.
The Regult Pods aren't far behind
The Tomahawk / Defender / Spartan are next
The destroid Fighters/Gerwalks/Troopers are the easiest to find.
I'm sorry I can't be more help but I read over on TMP that there is going to be a new Macross game from Palladium/Harmony Gold which will be 1/285 scale and will have metal miniatures... should be around next year... it is in the sci-fi discussion board:
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=273969
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I have a metal model of what I believe is a model in gerwalk mode, 4cm high so that should be 1/200 I believe? I got it in a bundle with Mekton miniatures from somebody here on the forum. The base says "C 1985 harmony/tatsunoko DHD.
Its underdcoated bright red but I hever got round to painting it, its metal so stripping it should not be to hard. PM me if you happen to be interested.
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I have a metal model of what I believe is a model in gerwalk mode, 4cm high so that should be 1/200 I believe? I got it in a bundle with Mekton miniatures from somebody here on the forum. The base says "C 1985 harmony/tatsunoko DHD.
There were plans back in '85 to release mecha miniatures as a tie-in with the Robotech RPG. The Gerwalk mode Valkyrie was the only one I ever saw in stores, and may very well have been the only one ever released.
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Those Robotech metal miniatures were made by Dark Horse miniatures. That's the same company that made the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles figures. See, the TMNT game was made by Palladium, just like the Robotech game, so that's where the connection is.
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There's a few kits being rereleased for the 30th macross anniversary, but it's mostly 1/100 and 1/60 kits. I haven't seen anything about any of the 1/200 kits being redone.
If you want 1/285th Robotech figs, it looked like that palladium team-up was completely and utterly dead when Kevin Siembieda announced last month that they were going to concentrate on making more of the same and not on expanding into other areas. But, there was a surprise announcement just last week saying it was a done deal and was going forward, possibly as early as sometime next year. The original models were being made by the guy that runs http://mechdudesblog.blogspot.com/ (http://mechdudesblog.blogspot.com/), and the rules were being done by the guy running http://robotechbattles.blogspot.com (http://robotechbattles.blogspot.com). It's possible neither of them will be used to develop the final game, but they are the guys responsible for getting the ball in motion and getting the attention of Palladium and Harmony gold.
Prototype resin models on 40mm bases
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2he00NP4L1A/T5bxV9h2VfI/AAAAAAAAAiI/QtccPuYVGcw/s1600/regult_tomahawk.jpg)
Comparison to the old Battletech Warhammer
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ERJpZBRQr2E/Tww9sQI2UwI/AAAAAAAAARU/H1Ip-pKTxKM/s1600/warhammer_size2.jpg)
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I would like one or two of those Regult, very sweet
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Yeah, I know the Robotech stuff is very rare, I have four pods (two heavy missile, and two scout - no normals). It seems the Veritechs would be very easy to find (including some new plastic pre-paints). I'm just looking for some good sites to keep an eye on.
I was following the Robotech Miniatures page, and I'm still waiting to see what comes of it. That would be my preferred scale.
Thanks for the info.
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Update: I managed to scrape together 10 various Pods via Ebay. I am selling off hundreds of 1/72 modern warfare items, so it all ended up evening out. I think I'll sit on them for now, amass some cheap Veritechs as opportunity arises, and wait to watch the possible arrival of the 1/285th stuff. I hope it comes out as good as the prototypes were looking. We'll see.
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There's a few kits being rereleased for the 30th macross anniversary, but it's mostly 1/100 and 1/60 kits. I haven't seen anything about any of the 1/200 kits being redone.
If you want 1/285th Robotech figs, it looked like that palladium team-up was completely and utterly dead when Kevin Siembieda announced last month that they were going to concentrate on making more of the same and not on expanding into other areas. But, there was a surprise announcement just last week saying it was a done deal and was going forward, possibly as early as sometime next year. The original models were being made by the guy that runs http://mechdudesblog.blogspot.com/ (http://mechdudesblog.blogspot.com/), and the rules were being done by the guy running http://robotechbattles.blogspot.com (http://robotechbattles.blogspot.com). It's possible neither of them will be used to develop the final game, but they are the guys responsible for getting the ball in motion and getting the attention of Palladium and Harmony gold.
Prototype resin models on 40mm bases
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2he00NP4L1A/T5bxV9h2VfI/AAAAAAAAAiI/QtccPuYVGcw/s1600/regult_tomahawk.jpg)
Comparison to the old Battletech Warhammer
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ERJpZBRQr2E/Tww9sQI2UwI/AAAAAAAAARU/H1Ip-pKTxKM/s1600/warhammer_size2.jpg)
The figures these guys made are amazing. I was disappointed to find out that the deal was a no-go.
Now it sounds kinda like Palladium have done an end-run around the guys trying to get this going. Wouldn't really surprise me, but I am sad to hear it...
Hope they at least get the guy who sculpted those miniatures to do the "official" ones. I would love to see Palladium hand the project over to these guys, but I sincerely doubt that the ego in charge could handle that.
~Eric
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Yeah, I'm going to hold onto the models (maybe even build some) simply because I do not trust Palladium to deliver quality...I don't think they have it in them. I suggested to the MechDude on his FB that he pursue a Macross-dedicated license in the US if possible...skip over Harmony Gold and Palladium etc. I don't know if its possible.
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It's pretty much not possible to skip over Harmony Gold, it's the only real IP they control and they fight to hold it tooth and nail. So little of the macross sequels and merchendise and video games come over here because HG demands too much in licensing to make it worth it. The entire reason Battletech had to stop producing the macross mechs is because the HG license essentially gives them almost exclusive rights to anything involving robotech and the original 3 shows that it was made from. FASA DID have a license to use those mechs (contrary to popular belief), but it was from a different company. In Japan it's very common to give out multiple licenses for the same IP, even for products that are essentially the same, but that's not at all common for US licenses. HGs license was much stronger under US laws than the license FASA got, so they had settle the lawsuit and stop using the designs. Similarly, the Robotech Battles guys HAD to go through Palladium. They went to Harmony Gold first and HG told them that it was too similar to the RPG and they needed to work it out with Paladium.
Say what you will about Palladium, Kevin Siembieda, and the rather clunky RPG rules, but they certainly kept Robotech alive throughout the 90's when really nothing else was happening with the franchise. I do hope they use the Robotech Battles and Paulson Games guys for the final game, though. Not only did they put in a LOT of work to get it off the ground, but they're awesome guys and really have a great passion for it and I think they have a much better notion of what would make a good minis game. I'm a bit too young to have caught Robotech on TV, it was the novels and the RPG that got me into it in the early '90s so I have a lot of great memories of playing the RPG. That's what got me into gaming to begin with after all. But man oh man I don't know if I could handle a palladium system anymore, those RPGs work great so long as you don't know any better :P
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I've been RPG'ing Robotech for 20 years (not as consistently as I'd have preferred) so I have little issue with Palladium, but they move like dinosaurs most of the time. As far as I'm concerned, ANY Robotech stuff is good - though I don't care much for invented stuff. Really didn't like the Shadow Chronicles movie at all.
I'm happy to say I've spent far too much money now, and have 16 Zentraedi Battle Pods...yikes! :D
I've even debated picking up the old Xbox titles again (I have a NIB original Xbox!) just to get some play time. I "hope" Palladium does the game justice, I just have little faith. I think Robotech fans in general are rather...realistic when it comes to expectations. Seems like we're always teased with potential stuff happening, and it never does.
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I used to be a big time palladium guy too, but I haven't played it in years. It just became too hard to convince friends to play a system that is so very clunky and dated, and I lost interest in the company after SOOO many missed release dates and scrapped titles and rumors from former writers of how terribly run the company was abounded. By the time of that big hoopla a few years back with palladium nearly going under and asking for help form fans came about, I had long since stopped caring about the company or the system, everything was (and still is) just referance books. I'd buy the new ones, but I hate the manga size they went with, even if it's cheaper.
I don't have much faith in a palladium run minis system either, for a while it looked like it was just going to be produced by Paladium but have the other guys write it and sculpt the minis. Now it looks like they're going with different (and very cheap, it sounds like) sculptor, and the rules are going to be an expansion of the RPG rules, and I've lost most of my interest and all of my exitement at this point.
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I used to really enjoy gaming Robotech and TMNT, but we always used a super modified version of their rules. Basically we'd use the skills, attributes, damage etc...but played a very fast and loose version of Palladium. The whole initiatives/attacks per melee nonsense was thrown out the window in favor of common sense. A huge guy just knocked you over? Nope, you don't get your attack right now...
I'm working on some Robotech rules for my own gaming system (Fighting Fives) and I'll just do the rules as best I can, and likely use 1/200 minis...but if the Palladium minis eventually appear, I'll grab some up if they're decent, and use them.
I'm looking around trying to find some 40-54mm sci-fi troops who could pose at Zentraedi troopers...no luck so far.
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My current quest...(note: I have no green-stuff experience, so I may try it during this project)
Anyone have any ideas for 28mm-54mm models which could represent these guys?
(http://www.deviantart.com/download/120394938/Robotech_Zentraedi_soldiers_by_VulnePro.jpg)
I'm not well versed in the many small lines of sci-fi troops available, but I can't think of any off the top of my head.
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For that guy on the left, there's this 28mm mini from Antenociti:
(http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/t/e/terminuspoliceofficermale.jpg)
http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/terminus-police-uniformed-male.html (http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/terminus-police-uniformed-male.html)
You may want to check their whole range of sci-fi minis:
http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/antenocitis/g-o-t-figures-1.html (http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/antenocitis/g-o-t-figures-1.html)
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That actually looks pretty good - just need a head swap. Unfortunately, I'm more concerned with finding the guy on the right - basic armored soldier. Thanks though, I may need an officer at some point. Right now, I may simply be stuck with pods. :)