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Title: Grass
Post by: Luc on February 15, 2008, 09:16:37 PM
Hello
Always working on the design of my indochina / vietnam game and terrain, and looking for the 317è section (very good film indeed :love: ) I'm asking myself how to make hight grass type and usefull in game but I don't find any solution.
 :freak:
Have you an valuable experience?  :)
Title: Grass
Post by: warrenpeace on February 15, 2008, 11:53:16 PM
Not sure what scale you are using or how high the grass is that you want, as I have not seen the movie and am not familiar with Vietnam high grass.  However, I found a product at Michael's, a large US craft store chain, that I want to use for high tropical grass.  It's a patch of fake plastic herbs which looks like tall grass to a miniatures gamer.  The patch is about 15 cm square and can be cut into strips or individual tuffs of grass.  The plastic grass is vertical and is about 8 to 10 cm high.  The cost was about $5.00 US.  I went looking for it because our local Japanese sushi restaurant uses these patches of plastic herbs as a decoration, putting smooth stones around the fake plants.

Warren
Title: Grass
Post by: Luc on February 16, 2008, 08:38:59 AM
For me it's about 2 cm high. You've got a link to the product? Thanks!
Title: Grass
Post by: Grimm on February 16, 2008, 10:36:26 AM
what about that Grass ,I make it from plastic and modell grass
(http://www.displacedminiatures.com/images/img.1187538666611.JPG.600.-1..9.JPG)
Title: Grass
Post by: Luc on February 17, 2008, 09:25:04 PM
Exactly what I want!! :mrgreen:
The base is in plastic card?
Model grass? Meaning for train and so?
Title: Grass
Post by: Lt. Hazel on February 18, 2008, 03:11:40 PM
Grimm Old-Terrainmaking-Surehand..how do you fix the grass? Superglue?
Title: Grass
Post by: warrenpeace on February 20, 2008, 02:49:38 AM
Quote from: "Luc"
For me it's about 2 cm high. You've got a link to the product? Thanks!


For 2cm high grass you definately want to do what Grimm did in that picture he posted for you.  That thin grass is horse hair with dye.  In comes in little packs in colors ranging from dark green to very light brown.  You can get it at model train stores.

The hard part it getting it to stand up while the glue dries.  I think that I'm going to try Alene's tacky glue next.  Maybe fast drying superglue would work... :?:
Title: Grass
Post by: poulppy on February 20, 2008, 10:32:42 AM
Quote from: "warrenbruhn"
Quote from: "Luc"
For me it's about 2 cm high. You've got a link to the product? Thanks!


For 2cm high grass you definately want to do what Grimm did in that picture he posted for you.  That thin grass is horse hair with dye.  In comes in little packs in colors ranging from dark green to very light brown.  You can get it at model train stores.

The hard part it getting it to stand up while the glue dries.  I think that I'm going to try Alene's tacky glue next.  Maybe fast drying superglue would work... :?:


for hight grass, when i need, i use broom's hair. I make a hole i put  broom's hair in with some glue. I paint it after.
Title: Grass
Post by: Grimm on February 21, 2008, 06:30:07 PM
Hi guys ,I use wood glue  8)

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The base is in plastic card?
Model grass? Meaning for train and so?


Plastic card ,yes and plastic grass from eastern shops I mean the deko stuff.
I paint it and glue the madel grass in it .
and yes the stuff for tarin and so .

hope that help you . :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Grass
Post by: Luc on August 21, 2009, 08:29:54 AM
Hello
Since few monces we have played many battles in Indochina with the table I realised.
Here some photos of a convention in Mauron (Bretagne / little Britannay).
In the scenario, The village is attacked by VM which comes to look for foods. But the little french garrison, informed by the 2nd Bureau, hid the bags of rice gets ready it to hold before the arrival of the reinforcements.
(http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/11/60/69/82/p1020310.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=68&u=11606982)
Title: Re: Grass
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on August 21, 2009, 11:17:37 AM
Well done. The paddy fields and houses look very realistic. Not sure about the green mat and the plants on a frame, but seems like a pragmatic solution.
Title: Re: Grass
Post by: bc99 on August 21, 2009, 06:45:11 PM

That looks like a great gaming field. I actually took 40mm round bases and placed the plants you have in the top left hand of your picture on them. That way I could have individually based stands of "elephant" or high grass. Looks very good, especially the paddy fields.
Title: Re: Grass
Post by: Luc on August 21, 2009, 06:53:04 PM
It's true it's not the perfect solution but I had not enough courage for basing them but the solution of piece of 40mm is good and I'll use it, thanks!
Title: Re: Grass
Post by: dijit on August 22, 2009, 08:19:55 AM
Theres a much cheaper way of doing it. Try getting some cheap sisle string, then put a length into green ink and eave it to dry Then cut the string to the length you want and glue to a base (a metal washer of similar) using PVA glue. It doesn't come much cheaper than that. Fichtenfoo using the technique very effectively here:
http://fichtenfoo.com/blog/?p=113 (http://fichtenfoo.com/blog/?p=113)
Title: Re: Grass
Post by: starkadder on August 22, 2009, 09:22:42 AM
Dijit and Fichtenfoo's solution is elegant and cheap. Very well done.

If you're still keen on the plastic then I eavily recommend that you find a decent aquarium supplier. There are amazing products to be found there with a bit of imagination. And mostly they are cheaper than from specialty modelling.
Title: Re: Grass
Post by: Luc on August 22, 2009, 12:34:59 PM
I buyed some plastic and have lot of stock in fact but the blog where it is showned haow to make elephant grass is excellent thanks! :)
Title: Re: Grass
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on August 25, 2009, 07:44:24 PM
Well done. The paddy fields and houses look very realistic. Not sure about the green mat and the plants on a frame, but seems like a pragmatic solution.

The "plant mat" can be easily textured by taking the plants off the frame and then covering it with D.I.Y filler mixed with brown paint, leaving the "pegs" uncovered. Apply sand, then when dry, drybrush to highlight it. When finished, put the plants back onto their pegs et voila!
Title: Re: Grass
Post by: Luc on August 26, 2009, 03:24:00 PM
I try some. I'll take a photo and show them to you to know how you find them :D
Title: Re: Grass
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on August 27, 2009, 10:03:47 AM
I look forward to it  :)