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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: Arthur on July 20, 2012, 01:31:58 AM

Title: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: Arthur on July 20, 2012, 01:31:58 AM
Now up on the Perry website is the next batch of July releases : Italian medievals. The carrocio is available as a full set, though you can buy the components separately (figures/carrocio/oxen team).

(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/EA%2022.JPG)
(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/B%2029.JPG)
(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/EA%2021.JPG)
(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/EA%2020.JPG)
(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/EA%2019.JPG)
(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/EA%2018.JPG)
(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/EA%2015.jpg)
(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/EA%2016.jpg)
(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/EA%2017.jpg)

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/ (http://www.perry-miniatures.com/)
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: Atheling on July 20, 2012, 07:28:50 AM
Bravo yet again to the Perry's  8) 8) 8) 8) 8).

I can see these miniatures developing into a rather interesting new project.

BTW, they would also be great to use as Burgundians (Swiss Wars) sans Corrocio as most of Charles the Bolds mercenaries were Italian.

Darrell.
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: Svennn on July 20, 2012, 09:30:53 AM
There are a few painters I would like to see have a go freehand at those drapes on the carrocio
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: Atheling on July 20, 2012, 09:48:37 AM
There are a few painters I would like to see have a go freehand at those drapes on the carrocio

I'm very much of a mind to do a Fornovo or Ravenna demo game now. This would include a Carraccio whether there was one present or not!!

In other words, count me in!!

Darrell.
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on July 20, 2012, 11:03:15 AM
RE "BTW, they would also be great to use as Burgundians (Swiss Wars) ...as most of Charles the Bolds mercenaries were Italian"

I will be getting them to enhance my Burgundians.

Mick
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: Paul on July 20, 2012, 11:06:53 AM
 :o :o The infantry poses look very good. A lot more variety.
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: tomek917 on July 20, 2012, 11:23:19 AM
These are just too good, I need to get some pronto!

Could you use them somewhere in the early italian wars for some skirmishing?
What factions/city states would be apropriate?
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: Atheling on July 20, 2012, 11:37:54 AM
These are just too good, I need to get some pronto!

Could you use them somewhere in the early italian wars?

How early are you thinking of? These are mostly usefull for the 1550's onwards up to about 1515- ish.

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for some skirmishing?

Not just for skirmishing, though the Sword and Shiled men did just that at Fornovo.

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What factions/city states would be apropriate?

They would be appropriate for pretty much any Italian Ciry state.

 Darrell.
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: Blue in vt on July 21, 2012, 03:00:34 AM
Obviously the horses are plastic...are the figures metal?

They quite lovely aren't they?!

Blue
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: craig2 on July 21, 2012, 05:17:52 PM
Sorry, but the use of the Carroccio declines in the mid 14th century...
So, no Carroccio at Fornovo or Ravenna... ::)
A real good piece, but historically wrong (as they present is for the 1450-1500 period... :o)
After 14th century, the Carroccio was only used for ceremonies and for celebrating anniversaries (Legnano for example) and during the Palio (Siena, Firenze etc...).
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: Arthur on July 21, 2012, 05:28:08 PM
Obviously the horses are plastic...are the figures metal?

Yes, they're metal and they're meant to be mounted on the plastic horses from the mounted men at arms set, which can be purchased separately from the riders now.  
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: Arthur on July 21, 2012, 05:31:28 PM
Sorry, but the use of the Carroccio declines in the mid 14th century...
So, no Carroccio at Fornovo or Ravenna... ::)
A real good piece, but historically wrong (as they present is for the 1450-1500 period... :o)
After 14th century, the Carroccio was only used for ceremonies and for celebrating anniversaries (Legnano for example) and during the Palio (Siena, Firenze etc...).

Very true.

But the Perry model still looks too good for us to be bothered by such trifles as reality  :D
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: craig2 on July 21, 2012, 05:40:25 PM
Indeed, you do what you want...But as it can be purchased separately, it could be used for the early 14th century, with appropriate figures... ;)
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: tomek917 on July 22, 2012, 09:54:40 AM
Quote from: Atheling
How early are you thinking of?

I was thinking perhaps War of the League of Cambrai? At least as a starting point.
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: janner on July 22, 2012, 11:40:07 AM
Damn you twins! I haven't finished the HYW yet, have a bucket load of WotR ans Sammies to do and now you dot his to me...


 ;)
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: Hendrid on July 22, 2012, 12:31:37 PM
The mounted crossbow are extremely nice (and useful) and I'm looking forward to some arriving in the post soon.

The speed that the twins produce great looking stuff is always worrying  :) I'll be picking up the carroccio too just because it will be a great centre piece to an Italian army.
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: Atheling on July 24, 2012, 11:59:23 AM
Very true.

But the Perry model still looks too good for us to be bothered by such trifles as reality  :D

For once and in honour of such a beautifull model, I will bend history!  :)

Darrell.
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: Arlequín on July 24, 2012, 02:27:48 PM
Historical accuracy? Meh!  ;)
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: CyberAlien312 on July 30, 2012, 11:13:15 AM
I think they look very nice. I might buy some of those in the future.
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: painterman on August 02, 2012, 03:57:03 PM
Just received my Italian castings this morning. Very lovely figures.
I'd not realised that the shields are separate castings...this makes the figures even more useful as sword armed late medievals (beyond the boundaries of Italy) - am now thinking of some potential easy-to-do conversions.  :)
Simon.
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: Sirolf on August 02, 2012, 05:03:52 PM
The models are all painted in the website by this Steve May guy that put up a nice diorama with the carroccio! Do you know if he has a blog or something where we could see more pictures?
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: painterman on August 02, 2012, 05:13:55 PM
Sirolf,
Steve May does indeed have a blog, which has many of the Perry figs he's painted, plus some of his photography and artwork. Steve used to own Immortal Miniatures (sold to Warlord Games).

Try here: http://age-of-discovery.blogspot.co.uk/

Enjoy,
Simon.
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: Sirolf on August 02, 2012, 05:29:02 PM
Thank you Simon. And btw, I can't wait to see what you do with these. As you know, Charles loved italians..
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: painterman on August 22, 2012, 02:33:57 PM
Just seen the latest PM advert (in Miniature Wargames mag) and there are some more Italian codes coming very soon - not sure if these are to 'round off' the Italian specific troops for the EA range?

Form memory the new packs are:
- seperate Italian style heads (for the plastic Mercenaries)
- round and oval shields
- mounted stradiots (!!) - a command pack and a lance-armed pack.

Am sure there willbe specific troops that maybe required, but seems to me that Michael's done a great line of region-specific figures...hope he does the same for Swiss.

All great stuff.
Simon.
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: Atheling on August 22, 2012, 03:41:10 PM
Form memory the new packs are:
- seperate Italian style heads (for the plastic Mercenaries)
- round and oval shields
- mounted stradiots (!!) - a command pack and a lance-armed pack.

Looks like my Battle of Fornovo demo game is going to go ahead without too much conversion work!

Darrell.

Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: Malatesta on August 23, 2012, 01:53:46 AM
Just seen the latest PM advert (in Miniature Wargames mag) and there are some more Italian codes coming very soon - not sure if these are to 'round off' the Italian specific troops for the EA range?

Form memory the new packs are:
- seperate Italian style heads (for the plastic Mercenaries)
- round and oval shields
- mounted stradiots (!!) - a command pack and a lance-armed pack.

Am sure there willbe specific troops that maybe required, but seems to me that Michael's done a great line of region-specific figures...hope he does the same for Swiss.

All great stuff.
Simon.

Righteous!
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: Stuart on August 23, 2012, 09:03:08 AM
oooooh shiny! this is bringing me closer to a French army!
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: Totleben on August 23, 2012, 01:58:42 PM
Stradiots ... finally! :-*
Title: Re: New Perry Italian Medievals
Post by: Hendrid on August 27, 2012, 10:09:51 AM
Saw the advert myself and got me wondering.  :D

Looking forward to see what the Bros have done with the stradiots, should be good.