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Miniatures Adventure => The Conflicts that came in from the Cold => Topic started by: fantail on August 10, 2012, 11:14:32 PM
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I am a big fan of the original but am not sure about this one, even if it has a couple of Aussies in it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGoe7BdGdlg&feature=player_detailpage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGoe7BdGdlg&feature=player_detailpage)
Interestingly that they get a Korean American actor to play the main Chinese "bad guy" then after the film is finished make the invading army North Korean.
There is a review of the original version of the remake(Chinese Army) here...
http://www.libertasfilmmagazine.com/exclusive-libertas-sees-the-uncensored-version-of-mgms-new-red-dawn/ (http://www.libertasfilmmagazine.com/exclusive-libertas-sees-the-uncensored-version-of-mgms-new-red-dawn/)
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Cool! Mindless violence, improbable story line... I'm in! lol
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The original was a cheesy 80s classic and it had the distinction of being the film with the highest bodycount at the time. In our PC age, I doubt this will up the ante, so I am not looking forward to seeing it ;)
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North Korea, huh? Wasn't there some Aussie flick where they were invaded by some unnamed Asia power? I think I'd rater sit through something like that then some dumb ass Korean invasion.
Just dumb,
Brian
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I think the target audience won't demand a realistic story.. or a story at all! :D
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I use the original for "man card" trivia. Ask a guy to name a movie that starred Patrick Swayze and Jennifer Grey. Inevitably the will say "Dirty Dancing". Wrong. Every dude knows its "Red Dawn". Turn in your man card. lol
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lol Man Card-like it. How about Jennifer Grey and Charlie Sheen? Brian,the Aussie movie is 'Tomorrow, when the War began'. Based on a very,very popular series of young adult novels. The movie is not bad but keep in mind the target audience. Trailer below. The enemy is never specified, in the books China or India are possibilities but the film the invaders are Asian.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_KhErNyiq8&feature=player_detailpage
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Besides Red Dawn they were in "Ferris Beullers Day Off" but thats arguably a man movie. Waaay more so than Dirty Dancing, anyway. :)
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that preview hurt my brain. o_o
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Cool! Mindless violence, improbable story line... I'm in! lol
Me too!!!
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What a shit film that was.
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Interestingly that they get a Korean American actor to play the main Chinese "bad guy" then after the film is finished make the invading army North Korean.
Still mired in the old "Yellow Peril" idea that every Asian is the same, then.
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Well they would struggle to find a potential enemy with anything remotely near the capability of conducting an invasion of the US outside of China or North Korea. Truth told, I doubt even the Chinese could do it in reality.
However, real-world assessments of military capability aside... Wolverines!
;)
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Well they would struggle to find a potential enemy with anything remotely near the capability of conducting an invasion of the US outside of China or North Korea.
North Korea doesn't even have the capability to feed itself, let alone stage a cross-Pacific invasion of the world's strongest super-power!
When the 2000AD comic was launched in 1977, the strip "Invasion!" originally featured an invasion of Britain by the Soviet Union. At the last minute, the publishers got cold feet and turned the invaders into entirely fictional "Volgans". The equivalent of Red Dawn's North Korea would have been to replace the Soviets by Albanians.
Surreal.
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Besides Red Dawn they were in "Ferris Beullers Day Off" but thats arguably a man movie. Waaay more so than Dirty Dancing, anyway. :)
Hmmm Patrtick Swayze was in Ferris?!?
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I hope this goes right to video, but then again I'm not going to rent it.
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Hmmm Patrtick Swayze was in Ferris?!?
No no, I was responding to the Jennifer Grey- Charlie Sheen question :D
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The equivalent of Red Dawn's North Korea would have been to replace the Soviets by Albanians.
Well, dey' here an sumbody gots to do summat 'bout dat! Wolverines! :D
I refuse to let reality intrude on a couple of hours worth of destruction and shit getting blown up. Even the token moralising and hand-wringing which seems to permeate every war-film nowadays gives me a chance to put the kettle on without missing anything, or having to pause the DVD.
;)
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Do the Aussie kids yell, "KANGAROOS" or "WOMBATS" or something cool like that before they waste the bad guys?
Brian
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What a shit film that was.
lol No doubt about that; however recently life thoroughly kicked me in the nether regions, I am inclined to enjoy more visceral pleasures.I have absolutely no preconceptions about this film,and as Arlequin mentions,it's a film where one can switch off; and I can tell you I need a bit of that.....Life is too short,so I might as well waste some of it ;)
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"dont you cry...you gotta let it turn man...let it turn to something else!"
And
Dying pilot: "shoot straight for once you...army...pukes...(dies)"
Haha my favorite lines from the original...cracks me up...plus when they piss in the radiator of the over heating truck is too funny.
I can only hope this one is as cheesy as the original.
Cheers,
Blue
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Exactly!!! :D
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I'm torn - on the one hand, I'm sick of Hollywood remaking the films of my youth, and on the other hand, it looks like a viscerally satisfying shoot-em-up.
And I agree, making the invaders North Korean to avoid impacting the film's sales in the growing Chinese movie market is kind of wimpy, but inevitable, given that Hollywood is run by the marketing guys. (And the studio that's been sitting on this movie for ~2 years is in such precarious financial shape that they don't dare take any action that might affect any part of their revenue stream. Their problems have also delayed production of the next Bond picture...)
OTOH, this gives me a great opportunity to run a Force on Force counter-insurgency scenario in "the Liberated People's Republic of Colorado", with teenaged American irregulars versus Mexican and Nicuraguan regular forces. Can anyone suggest good armed civilian figures for American counter-revolutionaries?
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Me thinks this will be straight to video or should that be DVD these days... I guess it would while a way a sunday afternoon. :)
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So the defender of American Freedom is an Australian (Hemsworth)? The trailer looks like a bit of fun actually.
Also the "Yellow Menace" all Australians have been raised with changes on a generational basis.
Post WWII - Japanese
1960s-80s - Vietnamese
90s-onward - Indonesians
Despite the fact we have a large Asian population, there exists a big fear of "Invasion from the North" that permeates our culture.
http://youtu.be/YXa-nAYdjrk
Even our army trains against "Murosians", which have a distinct South Asia feel about them. I'm Caucasian, but there are Asian members of my family, so I find this all a little weird, but extremely interesting.
Oh and the Tomorrow When the War Began series is terrible, it's more about losing virginity than it is gurillea warfare.
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I think I'll be running a "Wolverines!" game this November at our local mini-convention. Instead of busting out for actual figures, I'm going to try my hand at making "standees" for the participants and the buildings. Hey, the characters in the original film were all two-dimensional - why not in the game also! :D
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Even our army trains against "Murosians", which have a distinct South Asia feel about them. I'm Caucasian, but there are Asian members of my family, so I find this all a little weird, but extremely interesting.
It used to be Musorians that were a threat to the Australian way of life... you saying they got friends now? ;)
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Whoops. :)
At least i can spell Latveria correctly... :?
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... there exists a big fear of "Invasion from the North" that permeates our culture.
Perhaps you should be worried about "Invasion from the South". Beware the Antarctic hordes!
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Perhaps you should be worried about "Invasion from the South". Beware the Antarctic hordes!
Damn those pesky penguins and their nefarious ways.
I watched the original red dawn and thoroughly enjoyed it, this one seems to be the exact same as the origional with the exception of Koreans. The tommorow when the war began books are pretty dodgy but its sequel the Ellie chronicles is rather interesting as it shows what happens after the war.
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It used to be Musorians that were a threat to the Australian way of life... you saying they got friends now? ;)
Musorians were the opponent for conventional ops. It was a mishmash of Soviet doctrine, I've still got the Muso pam somewhere on my bookshelves. handy primer if planning an imagination.
For low level insurgency the enemy were the Kamarians. We used to sing a little ditty when playing the enemy.
'I'm a Kamarian and I'm true blue,
I kill c&#ts, just like you....'
BTW does Red Dawn come with a cancer warning?
Hopefully John Milius, Hollywood's leading fascist, doesn't get a royalty cut. I suspect he will he wrote and directed the original. :-[