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Miniatures Adventure => VSF Adventures => Topic started by: Malamute on February 28, 2008, 06:15:56 PM
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Aaron posted this in the open talk section but I thought I'd post it here too as from time to time the topic of these ltd edition figures comes up.
It appears they are now no longer limited editions but freely available again through Foundry's website. :? No more searching on Ebay - Hurrah, but then there's the price :x
The good news is you can now get Queen Victoria(Gaud Bless 'Er), her maid, Lady Kildear etc :)
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/LTDEDIT/5/index.asp
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Love the figs. Price is WAY TOO RICH for us poor familyman wargamers!!!
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Of course the bad news is that they are $10 US a pop. No idea what they are charging you in the mother country, but I suspect it is more than the current exchange rate would make it.
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Love the figs. Price is WAY TOO RICH for us poor familyman wargamers!!!
Yep, agreed, but they often sell for more on Ebay. :?
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Of course the bad news is that they are $10 US a pop. No idea what they are charging you in the mother country, but I suspect it is more than the current exchange rate would make it.
£5 stirling for each.
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Oh my, I'm suprised.
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£5.00 each is way too high. Obviously GW have managed that and more for many years now but you do generally get a lot more metal by weight.
I was browsing their site last night and decided against paying £10.00 for packs of six so I will not be tempted to pay 3 times that.
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Oh I agree it is too much, but at least back when I used to order from them the US and UK prices did not equate at all.
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Yeah, I just saw this on their email update thingy. At first I was all excited, and the figures are lovely, and I had all these great ideas for painting them.
And then I saw the price. :cry:
Of course if you buy all eight figs as a collection, it works out as only £4.80 each. Before you add the flat rate £7 postage.
Surprisingly, this does not make me reach for my wallet. :x
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Compared to some of the prices at GW, Foundry's figures are usually a bargain! How about $14 to $18 Cdn for single figures, including dwarfs, or $25 for something like a troll! $21 for a six-pack is a good deal in comparison.
Maybe, if they stay available long enough, we can buy the Limiteds during one of WF's periodic 20% off sales!
Cheers,
Mike
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There must be lots of these from a few years back when people were buying their deals, they pop up on e-bay all the time. It will be interesting to see if the evil bay value goes up or down with this release?
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I noticed and very tempting they are.
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Works out about the same as GW and they seem to sell, the postage is criminal but I may have to get a couple. What worries me is the little line 'pack contents may vary' how does a single figure vary?
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Can't afford GW stuff as well!!
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I have mine in their origional packets, always keeping an eye on ebay to see how they sell, may as well paint them now!
Tally Ho!
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Apart from the 2 pack Sherlock Holmes and Dr Watson, I got the others as 2 sets of 3 with my Miniature Wargames subscription. Were they available for sale as well then? :?:
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Apart from the 2 pack Sherlock Holmes and Dr Watson, I got the others as 2 sets of 3 with my Miniature Wargames subscription. Were they available for sale as well then? :?:
No they have never been for sale to my knowledge.
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None of them have ever been officially for sale, only on Ebay. All those limiteds where free packs in some way. Either with a WI subscription or buying something or other directly or via the website.
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:?: What is a limited "only with this order" edition if you can buy them later normally??? Did I misunderstand the concept of "limited"??
..I had a quick look at the price and it made it very easy NOT to buy these. Am I wrong or is foundry going down the GW path "let's rip 'em off"!?
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It's certainly a bad move to release limited edition models later on. Obviously they went for the actual ebay favourites.
What makes me wonder is I don't see much money in this venture, they pop up on ebay all the time usually go below Foundry's asked price.
I'm curious to see if they release the remaining ones also.
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My thoughts on this are unprintable. :x
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Well, just to chime in, IMHO it´s just the latest in a line of spectacularly shortsighted marketing decisions by GW. EDIT: Of course not GW, Foundry! But I´ll leave it standing just you can see to what conclusions my brain jumps. :lol:
To be honest, though, they already hinted at this practice back in the 1990s when they established the "Limited Figures" concept, and even back then they got bad rep for it (mainly followed it in Reader´s Letters to Wargames Illustrated).
So you cannot say that whoever cooked up that harebrained scheme, it´s not like they didn´t half-bake it for some 10 years.
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To be honest, though, they already hinted at this practice back in the 1990s when they established the "Limited Figures" concept, and even back then they got bad rep for it (mainly followed it in Reader´s Letters to Wargames Illustrated).
That's not correct, it was always made clear that these figures would never be released. Also you can't mix the montly limited editions up with the WI specials.
The monthly limited editions started not before 2000.
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To be honest, though, they already hinted at this practice back in the 1990s when they established the "Limited Figures" concept, and even back then they got bad rep for it (mainly followed it in Reader´s Letters to Wargames Illustrated).
That's not correct, it was always made clear that these figures would never be released. Also you can't mix the montly limited editions up with the WI specials.
The monthly limited editions started not before 2000.
I´m pretty sure about it, I´ll look it up once I get back to Münster. It was either in 1999 or 2000, and they had just started the monthlies. Back then, WI had some "Foundry Catalogue Pages" at the back, and in one of these they stated that they would "keep some stocks of limited figures for later times, then make them available to see what prices they´ll fetch."
I´ll look into my mags tomorrow evening and give a definitive quote.
Of course, that´s different from a full-blown release of the miniatures, which goes right in the face of those who fell for the Limited appeal.
GW did it several times as well. I particularly recall the "White Dwarf Figure" which I got with 1996´s WD200, which was then released around 2000, I think. Or 2001. Probably coinciding with the then-released Dwarf army book.
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To save you the work and for anybody who's interested you can find the details in Wargames Illustrated #156 (September 2000).
The actual release of Queen Victoria and the Mad Hatter set are Wargames Illustrated specials which should never been available from Foundry again, that was a quite clear statement.
They had a rather complicated plan for the monthly limited editions which was to keep some castings and see after some years what these complete sets would fetch. They made pretty clear that they would not cast or release them again in the future.
It's very annoying to see that they don't care a dime what they said in the past.
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To save you the work and for anybody who's interested you can find the details in Wargames Illustrated #156 (September 2000).
The actual release of Queen Victoria and the Mad Hatter set are Wargames Illustrated specials which should never been available from Foundry again, that was a quite clear statement.
They had a rather complicated plan for the monthly limited editions which was to keep some castings and see after some years what these complete sets would fetch. They made pretty clear that they would not cast or release them again in the future.
It's very annoying to see that they don't care a dime what they said in the past.
That´s the one! Thanks a bunch. :)
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What can one say that hasn't already been said 100 times?
Fantastic figure ranges, huge ambition, innovation and imagination. In great part responsible for the whole new wave of 2nd generation (ie. high quality) wargames figures and sculptors over the past decade and a half, not to mention promulgating the whole 'three colour method' which most people now accept as standard practice...
And yet, at almost every turn, they've perpetrated one dodgy marketing trick after another, and alienated (I suspect) a large section of what should be their core, loyal market.
Everything from blatantly buying editorial in WI (although they're not the only ones), to the whole 'precast preview' packs, limited editions and other such nonsense. Not to mention the stunning about turn a few years ago when they went from 8 figures for £6 to 6 figures for £8 - insouciantly almost doubling the price of their figures overnight... More money for less product in one fell swoop. What genius thought they'd be able to sell that one?
Now they charging more to cast and provide their 'back catalogue', and are selling single figures (which they once said were limited editions but don't appear to be limited after all) for a stonking £5 each.
Breach of contract? Who knows... Breach of good faith? I think so.
I really do give up on them.
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... Breach of good faith? I think so.
Surely.
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They've re-released some of the others now:
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/LTDEDIT/6/index.asp
Same prices, same sense of betrayal. :x
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60 Euro for 8 figures, good god.
I might finally get my Cyberripper in the next weeks!
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They've re-released some of the others now:
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/LTDEDIT/6/index.asp
Same prices, same sense of betrayal. :x
Those last three models I got free with some order , I nearly threw them out as I thought they were really bad , but painted them up for Townsfolk for my Old West Town .
I wonder what I'd get on Ebay for them . :o
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The weird thing is: I've been monitoring queen Vicky and her 2 ladies for years now on Ebay. In the beginning I've let them go at still quite reasonable prices but lately the Ebay auctions (at least the ones I kept trace of) went over the top pricewise.
So, when I received Foundry's newsletter I concluded this was it: I would now never get hold of them at a reasonable rate… The funny thing is I still had one set on watch on Ebay and guess what: I won the 3 figs at a price lower than I have seen for well over a year (and umpteen times cheaper than the Foundry offering). There is justice after all!
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When I have wanted a particular "limited" figure I just set up an Ebay search and wait.
The last one was the "Rat Catcher." Came up several times, one sold for £7. The one I got, still in Blister was 0.99p and £1 for postage(!)
I am a patient buyer.
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From what I saw on ebay they hardly eaver reached the Foundry retail price. There were some expensive one from time to time but the Queen set usually went for about a tenner.
Also there must be hundereds or thousands of these around and since they of no more interest for the collectors marked I doubt Foundry can sell more than few dozen of them. You'll get them at ebay quite cheap in the future so from a marketing perspective I don't see any sense in releaseing them.
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From what I saw on ebay they hardly eaver reached the Foundry retail price. There were some expensive one from time to time but the Queen set usually went for about a tenner.
I actually paid £6 for the 3 figures, which is a fair price (around double the going rate for 28mm rank & file) considering they are "character" figs.
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The weird thing is: I've been monitoring queen Vicky and her 2 ladies for years now on Ebay. In the beginning I've let them go at still quite reasonable prices but lately the Ebay auctions (at least the ones I kept trace of) went over the top pricewise.
So, when I received Foundry's newsletter I concluded this was it: I would now never get hold of them at a reasonable rate… The funny thing is I still had one set on watch on Ebay and guess what: I won the 3 figs at a price lower than I have seen for well over a year (and umpteen times cheaper than the Foundry offering). There is justice after all!
Well done Rudi! 8) :lol: