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Miniatures Adventure => Back of Beyond => Topic started by: H.M.Stanley on November 01, 2012, 07:31:55 AM
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I've been keeping an eye on this era since i took part in a mutli-player game at the club when 5 x factions [British, Chinese, French, German and Russians] were all trying to take a point on the table but with different and secret objectives.
I used British who were commanded by a certain Harry Flashman VC's grandson. The old boy's spirit lives on. He double crossed the French contingent :D
So, i have a hanckering to start Warlord Chinese or possibly White Russians.
But where to start Gentlemen?
Copplestone looks odds on.
Also, could you suggest reading material specifically on the Warlords?
Many thanks
James
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For Figures-Copplestone and Pulp Figures.
For reading, there's biography of One-Arm Sutton that includes his various adventures with the warlords. Its excellent, especially the fight at the mortar factory.
There's also a biography of Two-Gun Cohen that's not quite as good lol It has, among many other things, his adventures in warlord China
I can dig out the titles when I get home tonight it you wish.
Peter Hopkirk's Setting The East Ablaze has a chapter or two on a warlord, but be warned-that book only leads you deeper in to the Back of Beyond- lol It SHOULD tempt you into adding Reds, British, tribesmen etc
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You're a gent. Any information appreciated.
Setting the East Ablaze .. you say :D
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Setting the East Ablaze .. you say :D
Yup, slippery slope though. Consider yourself warned. ;)
While I have your attention, I might also recommend Ignatieff's rules of the same name. I've been trying them out and they work really well (for me at least) for large multi-faction games on large tables. YMMV
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I am warned :D
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Yup, slippery slope though. Consider yourself warned. ;)
While I have your attention, I might also recommend Ignatieff's rules of the same name. I've been trying them out and they work really well (for me at least) for large multi-faction games on large tables. YMMV
This is your fault .. lol
Just bought Setting the East Ablaze and the Osprey Warlord books for less than a £10 incl postage on Amazon
Cheers mate
James
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This is your fault .. lol
I blame Ignatieff ;)
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Oh no you don't. The gentleman concerned hasn't appeared (yet) :)
At this rate i'll just be dipping my toes in and buying a few figures .. lol
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Gentlemen,
While i'm waiting for the books where is a good place to start with buying figures for WL Chinese? HQ and, say, a couple of large units of Regular Infantry. Students look interesting as do Dare to Die troops (of course)
Thanks
James
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I am at exactly the same stage as you have reached and am about to embark into the BoB with a Chinese Warlord Army. I favour Copplestone Castings. Link:
http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/range.php?range=BOB
They have some excellent figures which cover most requirements and even include some White Russians which allows some spin off later.
Another range is Pulp Figures who have a range of Chinese including some variations on command figures, MGs (Hotchkiss) and some Tong Gangs which might add some colourful if unreliable allies. Link:
http://pulpfigures.com/products/category/14
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Thanks for that chap. I'm thinking 1920s
Do you know if Pulp have a stockist in the UK?
Cheers
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As far as I can tell there is no UK stockist, however all the forums speak very highly of his turn around time and postage service. Most suggest between 2 days and a week for delivery with the odd parcel taking two weeks. His postage charges are very reasonable although the figures themselves are more expensive that Copplestone.
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I think i'll go Copplestone for ease and add Pulp here and there when i can pick them up
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And now i've just bought the One-arm Sutton book. I fear that i'm slipping ... :D
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And now i've just bought the One-arm Sutton book. I fear that i'm slipping ... :D
'Two gun Cohen' will be next up. After that, you're a gonner.....
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'Two gun Cohen' will be next up. After that, you're a gonner.....
The man himself. :D
And you're not helping matters either lol
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You do know that Two-gun Cohen and One-Arm Sutton are available in the same pack from Copplestone?
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You do know that Two-gun Cohen and One-Arm Sutton are available in the same pack from Copplestone?
[puts head in heads and wonders where the money went] lol
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I have an armed archeologist who would do as Two-gun Cohen ;)
Otherwise, I like to theme an army and One-arm Sutton may be my man once i've read up ..
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What have you done Gentlemen?! lol
I have British, which i'll expand on, and i'm starting Chinese. Looking at exchanging some figs for a Rolls Royce armoured car and, possibly, a Vickers Mk III (i'm not sure about the latter but it will whittle down my lead pile) :D
Two of the guys from the club have signed up. One is doing White Russian; the other wants to use his VBCW figures [i've no idea either but he's welcome to]
Another mate has WW1 Russians - they'll pass, yes?
Waiting on a 5th but he's a good game boy
It begins ..
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And the 5th says he has a "few" Chinese bantdits somewhere which usually means he has a horde kicking about ..
Awesome! Can't wait to get stuck into the books
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Now you've gone and done it! I'm still in the process of getting over the Sudan and FIW (actually I'm not getting over them they are taking over me).
I do have lots and lots of Russians WW1, armoured vehicles and an armoured train (well two actually) and apart from the Russians they all need painting.
I'll try to resist but I can see it being a futile attempt.
Here we go again.
J
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It's madness I tell you. Once you start you can't stop!!!! :o
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Well done,
I read 3 of Hopkirks books they are great for atmosphere and detail.
I began by painting Chinese , I have 130 or so and then Whites, gain a 100 or so.
Buy Triumph & Tragedy rules, these are just awesome rules, easy to learn fun and brutal to play.
The games I ran at blam in 2010 and 2011 were so much fun.
dodge
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Now you've gone and done it! I'm still in the process of getting over the Sudan and FIW (actually I'm not getting over them they are taking over me).
I do have lots and lots of Russians WW1, armoured vehicles and an armoured train (well two actually) and apart from the Russians they all need painting.
I'll try to resist but I can see it being a futile attempt.
Here we go again.
J
Resistance is indeed futile. Go on go on go on go on go on ... lol
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Well done,
I read 3 of Hopkirks books they are great for atmosphere and detail.
I began by painting Chinese , I have 130 or so and then Whites, gain a 100 or so.
Buy Triumph & Tragedy rules, these are just awesome rules, easy to learn fun and brutal to play.
The games I ran at blam in 2010 and 2011 were so much fun.
dodge
Thanks Dodge,
We do have the T&T rules kicking about between us
Cheers
James
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I'm going to add my Sikhs to these for BoB games (a little early but hey whose counting).
So i can throw in 40 Sikh Infantry, 12 Cavalry/Lancers and a Mountain Gun into the mix with my Brits ...
Now, just waiting to hear about a RR armoured car and Vickers Medium Mk III tank .. :D
Then for the Warlord Chinese ..
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Gentleman,
Welcome to the madness of the 1920s on the Sino-Russian border around the time of the Russian Civil War. Warlords in China, while notionally are part of the regular army, carve out for themselves small empires in the wilderness.
Britain has her eye on threats to its Indian borders and is involved in the Great Game with Russia. Germany and Japan is having a dabble here and there, as are the Turks.
And heavily armed expeditions/film crews from Britain and the US roam the Chinese deserts on “scientific” research i.e. looking for priceless treasures.
Bandits and Smugglers are rife.
I give you The Back of Beyond …
• Ady “The Mad Baron” - White Russians
• Commissar Nice John – Bolsheviks
• Grabbit and Run Paul – Adventurers
• James Flashman O’Toole* - British
• “Yuk Foo” – Chinese Warlord (our mystery player)
• The Inscrutable Q – Chinese Bandits
• Evil Trev … possibly too evil even for this period. Which is going some. We’ll see
• Big “Two-gun”D – mercenary forces/bodyguard for hire!!
Typical forces are 30 – 50 figs. It’s a very much anything go period. Cossacks, Tibetans, Monks, Model T Fords, crappy armoured cars and experimental tanks (that almost certainly won’t work, run out of ammo, fuel etc. etc.)
*An illegitimate grandson of the old man himself of The Flashman papers and has inherited all of his famous forbears less charming characteristics
Red and White Russians are natural enemies and can never ally. Everyone else is out for themselves and will ally/double cross to their hearts content
Expect multi-player games and scenarios rather than straight shoot em ups ..
JFO’T
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'Two gun Cohen' will be next up. After that, you're a gonner.....
I bought the book yesterday.
Dave/Cavalier Books is coming back to me later with my order for Copplestone WL Chinese and your rules
I'm a few quid lighter than i was last week but considerably more enriched. A good friend of mine now tells me that he always wanted to do a White Russian force for this period but thought nobody was interested.
Gentlemen, i salute you !! :D
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And with impeccable timing, the General of Fortune book and the figure of One-armed Sutton (thanks Vern) have landed on my desk at work this morning.
A spot of reading over lunch methinks ...
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And with impeccable timing, the General of Fortune book and the figure of One-armed Sutton (thanks Vern) have landed on my desk at work this morning.
A spot of reading over lunch methinks ...
An open and shut case of the 100%, barking at the moon, full howling madness. Welcome to my hinterland.....
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It didn't take long did it .. lol
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I think some mentioned a slippery slope earlier in this thread........................... lol lol lol lol
Seriously, having run a game using two hundred figures, and planning for a game that will use 400 figures, I realize now that I might be halfway to what I "need" for my fully realised vision lol lol lol
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Oh gawd!! I've sold this to the fellas that they'll need < 50 figures. Mind you, if i can get 8 members into the group ... :D
I think i may have found a home for my two unused Copplestone Armed Archeologists; you know, the one with two revolvers and t'other with the rifle lol
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Oh gawd!! I've sold this to the fellas that they'll need < 50 figures minimum to start
Fixed that for you.
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Now the truth comes out.
Fifty figures is all you'll need says he, you won't have to paint anymore says he, and all the while he's smiling and sipping (!) his drink.
I'll never be able to believe a word he says - until the next time.
J
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Fixed that for you.
[holds head in hands again] lol
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Now the truth comes out.
Fifty figures is all you'll need says he, you won't have to paint anymore says he, and all the while he's smiling and sipping (!) his drink.
I'll never be able to believe a word he says - until the next time.
J
Ahh, but, Bolshy old bean .. you're the exception :D
Warmest regards and best toothy smile
James Flashman O'Toole
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(cough) Bolshies find it hard to find allies, so you will probably need twice as many of them as anything else ;)
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I obviously need as much help as I can muster.
Just seen a photograph of a Tzar Tank I think I will have to make one, my enemies will laugh so much I will be able to send hordes of infantry forward without them noticing - hopefully!
J
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[Gentlemen, do not be fooled by the Nice John sobriquet. Comrade Bolshevik here did not rise to the rank of Commissar for nothing :D That raised eye-brow of his has had many a grown man put down the modelling implements and reach for the diagram again all fingers and thumbs]
Commrade,
An excellent idea. Your human shield troops will do nicely for our plans. I'm looking at having me one of those Sutton Skunks ...
Down the hatch! [or whatever the Russian equivalent is - Dosvsomethingorother!]
O'Toole
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Just thought I ought to chip in to say that as a result of this thread I've had to buy a copy of the One Arm Sutton book as well, now on its way from Amazon. As I've nearly finished Tip & Run, and have a biography of Ewart Grogan up next, it might have to wait a while...will look out for the Two Gun Cohen book.
Must finish colonial Africa painting...
Mark
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Just thought I ought to chip in to say that as a result of this thread I've had to buy a copy of the One Arm Sutton book as well, now on its way from Amazon. As I've nearly finished Tip & Run, and have a biography of Ewart Grogan up next, it might have to wait a while...will look out for the Two Gun Cohen book.
Must finish colonial Africa painting...
Mark
Hi Mark,
I'm about a third of the way through the book on Sutton. A fascinating tale, and he's not even in China yet!
Cheers,
James
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I've just found a copy of the Two-Gun Cohen book on ABEbooks so I had to order that too. Nooooooooooooo!
Mustn't look at copplestone site...
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I've just found a copy of the Two-Gun Cohen book on ABEbooks so I had to order that too. Nooooooooooooo!
Mustn't look at copplestone site...
I would blame the two gentlemen on my left ...
Have you considered the Setting the East Ablaze rules? [ducks sharpish!]
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I saw a good review of STEA in WI/Battlegames(?) recently, I think. I will get a copy eventually I'm certain. I've read a lot of the Peter Hopkirk books (though not STEA itself) and it's a great period/area.
Waiting for this month's credit card billing period to end first! I notice that Against the Odds has "Guns of the Askari" covering WW1 East Africa as its current game, so I may subscribe to that.
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Ha ha - don'y you start too lol
East Africa WW1 indeed. Get thee behind me .. ;)
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And Peter Hopkirk's Setting the East Ablaze arrived today ...
I really must get some figures lol
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I have been to work today (the first time this month) and guess what was waiting for me on the door mat when I got home? That's right STEA all beautifully wrapped up just waiting to be read. Cup of tea, biscuit and book there is nothing more I need for the next hour and then off fencing.
Bye for now
J
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If you use The Sword and The Flame, you have units of 20 figures at most, so your 50 figure come on will certainly work. The only problem I found with BoB, is that you need gamers who are willing to do a bit of role playing, which I did not have.
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I have been to work today (the first time this month) and guess what was waiting for me on the door mat when I got home? That's right STEA all beautifully wrapped up just waiting to be read. Cup of tea, biscuit and book there is nothing more I need for the next hour and then off fencing.
Bye for now
J
Yes, dear Commissar Bollo. I think we were both bidding on that at one point. Luckily i stopped as i'd spoken to Dave/Cavalier Books .. lol
Perhaps we squeeze in a game, off piste as it were, at some point soon?
JFO'T
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If you use The Sword and The Flame, you have units of 20 figures at most, so your 50 figure come on will certainly work. The only problem I found with BoB, is that you need gamers who are willing to do a bit of role playing, which I did not have.
Hi. S&TF is a favourite of mine since John introduced it to me some time back. At one point i tried to fit into everything i played.
Now i tend to keep it for Colonial gaming (NWF, Sudan etc) and use dedicated rules for each other period i.e. In the Heart of Africa/Death in the Dark Continent, Muskets and Tomahawks/TVG, Disposable Heroes (SCW variant) etc
I bought Price of Glory to try for BoB but think i'll move to STEA fairly quickly as its period specific.
Personally, i don't see any real role-playing in BoB other than gaming (mildly) in character. I think its the scenarios and individual character objectives that set the tone of the game.
I'm planning on running campaigns if this takes off with the fellas
Cheers, James
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Sorry about that!
Had a very quick read last night, this morning and am pleased with the flow, as you say we need to get some practice in soonish.
J
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Sorry about that!
Had a very quick read last night, this morning and am pleased with the flow, as you say we need to get some practice in soonish.
J
lol
All is fair in love and war(gaming)!! [notes actions of the double dealing communist swine in the book of JFO'T pending paybacks] ;)
Looking forward to that game. I have British/Sikhs painted as you know.
First batch of 10 Pulp Chinese bandits should be with me shortly. I'll paint up the One-armed Sutton and Two-Gun Cohen figures (and a misc Adventurer type) over the weekend
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I have my copy of STEA rules. Dave/Cavalier books - you top banana! :D
Those chinese bandists arrived too. Unlikely allies (for now) to the British but, hey, this is the Back of Beyond and anything and everything goes lol
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STEA - first possibly stupid question ...
What do you use for your Action Cards?
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STEA - first possibly stupid question ...
What do you use for your Action Cards?
I have some leftover business cards from another job. I just scribble the unit name on them. I'm thinking about doing a custom deck at artscow at some point
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I have some leftover business cards from another job. I just scribble the unit name on them. I'm thinking about doing a custom deck at artscow at some point
I use little blank cards you can pick up from any stationers. Usually about 4" x 3"
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Thanks fellas
I was wondering if i was missing a trick
Your STEA rulebook looks great Sir! I've only had a flick at it for now but the photos alone are inspiring*
I'm cleaning/basing my Sutton/Cohen & bandit figures at the moment
Cheers, James
* good to see that i can use my German Askari/Schutztruppe too for this period ;)
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I notice that Against the Odds has "Guns of the Askari" covering WW1 East Africa as its current game, so I may subscribe to that.
I take it all back ... my Darkest Africa Germans may get a visit from the Brits and/or FP at some point in the jungle too lol
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Thanks fellas
I was wondering if i was missing a trick
Your STEA rulebook looks great Sir! I've only had a flick at it for now but the photos alone are inspiring*
I'm cleaning/basing my Sutton/Cohen & bandit figures at the moment
Cheers, James
* good to see that i can use my German Askari/Schutztruppe too for this period ;)
You are very kind sir
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Q please - Unit Designation: as a general rule, would C2 troops have M2, C3 M3 etc? I appreciate that you could go up or down a level accordingly but wondered what the basic position is
Also, just spotted the new White Russian Lancers. If i was going to put only one unit of cavalry in with my Warlord Chinese (yeah i know, who are we kidding but lets pretend for the moment) what would you put in there? Chinese Cavalry or something more exotic? I'm going to theme mine on the Fengtian Army 1920/28
Thanks chaps
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Q please - Unit Designation: as a general rule, would C2 troops have M2, C3 M3 etc? I appreciate that you could go up or down a level accordingly but wondered what the basic position is
Also, just spotted the new White Russian Lancers. If i was going to put only one unit of cavalry in with my Warlord Chinese (yeah i know, who are we kidding but lets pretend for the moment) what would you put in there? Chinese Cavalry or something more exotic? I'm going to theme mine on the Fengtian Army 1920/28
Thanks chaps
Yes there is usually a relationship, so well trained troops will have a good or very good morale, and vice versa. However you can play it any way you want depending on the scenario. For example of a lot of well trained and experienced western European troops in 1919/20 could be relatively low morale due to wanting to be demobbed. The British in Archangel at this time would be one such example. Upto you really.
Chinese cavalry would either be the regular types of nags (which Copplestone does) or irregular tartar types (which he also does). The lancers were only one unit one warlords army. But hey, its not for real most of this, so have the heck what you want!
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Thank you chap
I like the idea of WL Chinese Cavalry really but can see me getting some Irregulars too
Appreciate the confirmation on the rules.
Cheers,
James
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Ok, I give in, am going to Warfare on Sat, will see if I can pick up a copy of STEA while there...
Mark
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I take it all back ... my Darkest Africa Germans may get a visit from the Brits and/or FP at some point in the jungle too lol
Hey don't forget that you need to rendezvous with L59 for resupply...
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My first game of STEA this Thurs with John; Anglo/Indians in Waziristan 1920 (to give John time to sort out his Bolos)
The rules look great fun.
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A couple of Qs gentlemen if you don't mind:
1. Will, say, British always start with an NCO in each section of 10?
2. If an NCO is present, does it give him the +1 to Shooting or the entire unit?
3. Does each figure only ever get to fight a maximum of 2 figures of your opponent and vice versa?
4. If you only draw Combat, does anything happen if you're outnumbered by > 2:1
Many thanks
James
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A couple of shots of my first game using STEA. Anglo/Indian in a fighting withdrawal against Waziris.
This shot is after turn 2. Nice " Commissar" John is commanding the British/Indians while seemingly having a crafty doze in the corner. The British force started within 9" of the table edge and has to retire 33% of its troops to the town at the far end of the table in order to win. None of the Waziers managed to make it into combat in the first couple of turns.
However, the Waziris cavalry did come on in a flanking manoeuvre (rolled a 6). We'd decided that they couldn't charge in its turn moving onto the board and they had to come on in their own half of the board. I was praying for their card to come up before the British unit in charge range who had their backs turned ....
(http://i50.tinypic.com/2emevbq.jpg)
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The Anglo/Indians retiring in good shape with the 2nd unit of Waziris (2nd from left) having taken heavily casualties from shooting already
(http://i45.tinypic.com/20kzxi9.jpg)
You can just about make out in the final shot a couple of units of Indian troops in the background having been mauled by two units of Waziris. The British in the distance were being shot up too and had to retire, luckily towards their objective. I'd changed tactics and started to shoot with some units and move others rather than a headlong rush by all.
The nearest British unit turned to face the cavalry and shot them to pieces. The remnants of the cavalry did charge - it was a draw. We played it that the British could only fight with 2 figures per cavalry figure. This may have been wrong. Also, on the next British action card it could have surrounded the Waziris cavalry and captured it. We'd forgotten this rule
(http://i50.tinypic.com/2n6x44k.jpg)
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Allah, peace be upon him, was not merciful. The Waziris having failed to engage the majority of the Anglo/Indian forces in combat, were badly shot up, failed repeated army moral tests and Routed.
We found the rules to be simple (my daft fault for forgetting surrendering) and fun. They're a keeper in my book.
Nice Commissar John is working on his Bolos and an armoured train for the next outing
Meanwhile, the British CO, Col. James Flashman O'Toole, has taken delivery of an Austrian Armoured Car that he won in a rigged poker game. He was better at cheating than the German Kommandant, naturally ....
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NB: with hindsight, i should have moved that village/fields closer to the starting point and have the British/Indians fall back through it. The Waziris really needed more cover to make a proper game of it
Good fun though and it could have been very different if the Warriors had engaged them in combat early on and i'd had the Cavalry coming out of Ambush instead of a flanking move ...
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Cracking game!!!!
You are obviously using a 'beta' version of the rules as we dropped the N.C.O. rule in the published version. In became too fiddly in the end.
Re multiple figure melees, the max. you can have is 2:1. Any surplus figures can be dropped into subsequent rounds. This prolongs things a tad, but does allow for more 'heroic' action.
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I have the published book chap. There's mention of NCO's etc. I'll post the page reference but note they don't apply [EDIT: NCO mentioned at 10.2.6]
Good to see that i'd got it correct on a max of 2:1 in melee
Really enjoying using the rules :)
Cheers,
James
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I have the published book chap. There's mention of NCO's etc. I'll post the page reference but note they don't apply [EDIT: NCO mentioned at 10.2.6]
Good to see that i'd got it correct on a max of 2:1 in melee
Really enjoying using the rules :)
Cheers,
James
Well spotted. That shouldn't be there! next edition you get a free copy!!!
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Well spotted. That shouldn't be there! next edition you get a free copy!!!
:D
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Well done that man!
Picked up a motor bike and side car with mounted machine type gun from 1st Corps at Warfare today, all I have to do now is put some Russian heads on the figures.
While at Warfare I had a very fruitful chat with JMBibbly about the hazards of building a Tzar Tank. I'm going to try making it in card first and then in Plastikard. In the correct scale it will stand between 10" and 11" high on the table and carry a crew of ten with mounted machine guns!!!!!!!! The crew don't have mounted machine guns the tank does!
J
Latest news- I wont have to make one I have found a Czech company who make a model of this beast. Have ordered it now we just have to wait for it to arrive!!!!
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A Czar tank sounds like fun. Can't wait to see the results.
We will have to have a suitable scenario for it dear boy. Crossing a high bridge comes immediatley to mind :D
Seriously, that will look great
Have just watched The Good, The Bad and The Wierd. We'll have to come up with something for the motor-bike and side car too
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Well done that man!
Picked up a motor bike and side car with mounted machine type gun from 1st Corps at Warfare today, all I have to do now is put some Russian heads on the figures.
While at Warfare I had a very fruitful chat with JMBibbly about the hazards of building a Tzar Tank. I'm going to try making it in card first and then in Plastikard. In the correct scale it will stand between 10" and 11" high on the table and carry a crew of ten with mounted machine guns!!!!!!!! The crew don't have mounted machine guns the tank does!
J
You know the meaning of megalomaniac? :D Sounds great, do it!
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Very very impressed with the 1st Corps Romfell AC that i bought on here [thanks Mark]
I'm going to paint it up in a neutral colour and that switch it back and forth between the British and Chinese. Sound like a plan for a "captured" AC?
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And Peter Hopkirk's Setting the East Ablaze arrived today ...
What a fantastic book!! I've asked Santa to bring a couple more of his.
The Chinese WL project is still stalled [drums fingers] but at least i have the Anglo/Indians and Pathans
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Oh Dear! I can just see the headlines, "Real life causes Drumming of Fingers!" where is it all going to end? ;)
It's only a small stall honest Boss!!!!
J
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Oh Dear! I can just see the headlines, "Real life causes Drumming of Fingers!" where is it all going to end? ;)
It's only a small stall honest Boss!!!!
J
Ha ha - not you Bolshy old boy . My lack of Chinese figures :'(
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Phew! That's a relief.
J
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Phew! That's a relief.
J
We'll catch up soon John :)
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F. Sutton Esq shows off his new toy to two chums ..
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OOOh I say that is rather nice. Given me the inspiration to make a list of the tasks ahead of me and completing the Russians is at No.4 , but the train is down at No. 9
Tomorrow will see the first one completed and then onto No. 2.
Just keep feeding me more inspiration.
J
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I have a rather splendid Rolls Royce AC [Dinky dicast coming]. How's that?
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That car is amazing and a lovely painting job as well. Who makes the car?
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Thank you Prof.
The AC almost paints itself. It is a lovely piece of kit - a 1st Corps Romfell
James
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Cracking work!!!
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Cracking work!!!
High praise indeed. Thank you Sir
James
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The Tzar Tank is on its way from the Czech Republic as I type, just awaiting its arrival.
J
:-*
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The Tzar Tank is on its way from the Czech Republic as I type, just awaiting its arrival.
J
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Hang on old horse, weren't you making one? Buying one in is just .. just .. LOW*! I would never stoop to such a thing. [ahem]
*i like it
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Making one was the idea but for us trolls who have to work so hard, they do say time is money plus it should be a lot easier and much better. Oh and quicker, you should see the huge list of things I've got to complete.
J
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Making one was the idea but for us trolls who have to work so hard, they do say time is money plus it should be a lot easier and much better. Oh and quicker, you should see the huge list of things I've got to complete.
J
I'm waiting for delivery of my [Dinky die-cast] Rolls Royce Armoured Car. I just hope that its the correct scale.
Sorry to interupt your work schedule ... [splutters! and gnashes teeth] lol
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Don't forget theres work and theres WORK!
Some of you have to do the latter whilst I do the other, when I feel like it!
;)
J
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Don't forget theres work and theres WORK!
Some of you have to do the latter whilst I do the other, when I feel like it!
;)
J
You just concentrate on painting those Reds ;)
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I'll have you know they have got the first layer of basing material on them, just waiting for the glue to dry before they get a coat of medium oak to colour and stick all the loose bits together. Then dry brush and add scenic 'flock' and a final matt varnish and Robert is your Aunt's husband so to speak.
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I'll have you know they have got the first layer of basing material on them, just waiting for the glue to dry before they get a coat of medium oak to colour and stick all the loose bits together. Then dry brush and add scenic 'flock' and a final matt varnish and Robert is your Aunt's husband so to speak.
Excellent work Bolshy old horse
And joy of joys, my Dinky Rolls Royce AC turned up today (with other items) and it is perfect on scale [thank you Gui!]
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Hello H.M.Stanley!!!Great news!!!Soon there will be some new stuff for this area!!!!
Kind regards
Gui
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Hello H.M.Stanley!!!Great news!!!Soon there will be some new stuff for this area!!!!
Kind regards
Gui
That is good news Sir! :D
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I stand corrected. The [EDIT: Matchbox not Dinky] RR/AC is a tad large even next to the Copplestone British troops (it dwarfs the Pulp Chinese). I:44 scale?
Its not going stop me using it though. It looks smashing :D
Now, where are those Reds when you want to mow something down ...
"What's that coming over the hill its a monster its a monster ..."
[Bolshy - actually, Comrade, its a Tzar tank]
Oops ...
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Second dry brush on base today, foliage etc later today after I have rewired an epee for a club member - I told you I was busy at work.
We've got a days work in March!!!!
I am becoming impatient for the Tzar to arrive............ !
J
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[grits teeth ...] lol
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Rumours abound that the Red horde is advancing ....
Finishing touches to my (small) unit of Chinese Bandids [note to self: must pick up another 10 figs]
Anglo/Indians ready and waiting & polishing their RR armoured car (no, that's not a euphemism!) :D
Warlord Chinese are out of sight but not out of mind ....
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They are moving 'at the double' towards the front, keen and eager to smite any and all enemies!!!!!!
8)
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They are moving 'at the double' towards the front, keen and eager to smite any and all enemies!!!!!!
8)
I feel another game coming on Bolshy old fruit - Trans-Caspian theatre ...
Yours
JFO'T :D
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Bring them on my good chap.
The people's forces are ready and waiting plus THE TZAR TANK HAS JUST ARRIVED - sorry about that, emotion got the better of me.
Lots of bits waiting to be put together I feel daunted now, never was much good at Airfix kits never mind this.
:o
J
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Bring them on my good chap.
The people's forces are ready and waiting plus THE TZAR TANK HAS JUST ARRIVED - sorry about that, emotion got the better of me.
Lots of bits waiting to be put together I feel daunted now, never was much good at Airfix kits never mind this.
:o
J
Pic of the tank please???
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Pic of the tank please???
Second this :)
cheers
James
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Bah is that all it is!! I'm going to put a spoke in its wheel :D
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OK but first of all some help is needed.
How do I add pictures?
I have looked at the help page and that wasn't much help or at least I could find what I wanted............
John
Cancel that I think. I pressed additional options and see you can add files. All I need to do now is take a picture, store it to my desk and then attach. Is that correct??
J
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OK but first of all some help is needed.
How do I add pictures?
I have looked at the help page and that wasn't much help or at least I could find what I wanted............
John
Cancel that I think. I pressed additional options and see you can add files. All I need to do now is take a picture, store it to my desk and then attach. Is that correct??
J
The best option for me is to have an external picture host such as Photobucket you can then click on the little picture icon just above the box when you're typing and copy the direct link from the picture host inbetween the code [img]here[img].
There is a LAF gallery but I've never used it so I wouldn't know but I'm sure some nice chap will come along and explain it :)
cheers
James
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I shall merely pass on best advice - ask someone < 15yo. My technical adviser is up in South Yorks at the moment
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So, Comrade Bolshy has twisted my arm :D and i'm starting off my Chinese Warlord project with a couple of units of White mercenaries.
These are WW1 Old Glory figures. Anything i need to know about painting them up as Whites? I've only read up on the Chinese to date.
Thanks chaps
James
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I never touched him at all - he is having serious collecting mania problems thats what it is, honest.
8)
J
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I never touched him at all - he is having serious collecting mania problems thats what it is, honest.
8)
J
Ohh my poor arm. No no not the ... comfy chair!! lol
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Today, I shall mostly be buying ...
... Warlord Chinese from my mate Nick. Huzzah!! :D
As you were gentlemen
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Which range does Nick stock? I've had a quick look but can't find anything resembling them, but thats me looking.
John
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I have filled my boots, so to speak:
1. Officers Mounted* and on foot
2. 20 Infantry plus buglars/standard bearers
3. 10 Dare to Die troops
4. 10 Assault troops
5. 9 Cavalry (* one mounted Officer to go with these)
6. Executioners
7. HMGs
8. Mortar
9. Light Gun
10. Chinese Bandit Characters
Bolshy and i are doing a POW exchange Siberian Rifles for (Chinese mercenary) White Russians :D
I may have a few Chinese troop swapsies after i sort things out
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Yesterday i got about half way through "The Sand Pebbles" [starring Steve McQueen] until real life got in the way.
What a film!!
I must have seen part of this film years and years ago as i have an inkling how it ends [please don't confirm, just incase i'm wrong]
Lots of scope there for scenarios.
I may have to look for some armed US sailors figures at some point ... :)
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Those Siberian Rifles are much happier now they are back in the Mother/Father land. They have all got newly issued uniforms and look quite dashing, just have to make sure the bases match the rest of the army:
4 Officers
8 x 10 infantry
2 x 10 snipers
1 x 10 cavalry
2 x light mortars
1 x HMG
plus one or two bits to come.
Such fun.
J
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I may have to look for some armed US sailors figures at some point ... :)
Always happy to help with the descent into madness:
http://pulpfigures.com/products/category/13
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Those Siberian Rifles are much happier now they are back in the Mother/Father land. They have all got newly issued uniforms and look quite dashing, just have to make sure the bases match the rest of the army:
4 Officers
8 x 10 infantry
2 x 10 snipers
1 x 10 cavalry
2 x light mortars
1 x HMG
plus one or two bits to come.
Such fun.
J
That's building up nicely John, and some!
Are the Siberians actual snipers or elite infantry? "Marksmen" under STEA perhaps?
Also, does "one or two bits .." include a rather large tank :o lol
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Always happy to help with the descent into madness:
http://pulpfigures.com/products/category/13
Not helping! lol
However, and this may be a heresy, those figures are awful. Seriously
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Also, does "one or two bits .." include a rather large tank :o lol
Yes ;)
cheers
James
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Not helping! lol
However, and this may be a heresy, those figures are awful. Seriously
Only here to help you laddie lol
I have lots of Pulp Figures, but not those. To each his own, but I like Murch's style
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Only here to help you laddie lol
I have lots of Pulp Figures, but not those. To each his own, but I like Murch's style
I quite like the Pulp range and will be looking for some Chinese Militia at some point. But, sorry, nope, not those US sailors [shudders!!]
Oh and The Sand Pebbles - all i can say is buy the DVD. Just a fabulous film
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Yes ;)
cheers
James
You don't have time to be doing that for his nibs when you have other things [ahem] to do Mr JimBibbly Sir lol ;)
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You don't have time to be doing that for his nibs when you have other things [ahem] to do Mr JimBibbly Sir lol ;)
I do when it's almost ready ;) ;)
cheers
James
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Mr Stanley Sir, you leave him alone he's a very nice man he is.
Helping out an old codger in his time of need.
I found the design of another Russian vehicle of war so I have.............
J
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I do when it's almost ready ;) ;)
cheers
James
Ha ha - its a fair cop. Looking forward to seeing your work in the flesh, whether its Red or Chinese :D
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Painting has taken a bit of a back-seat recently.
Still, i've managed to get 10 Chinese bandits and 10 WL Infantry painted.
I'm painting batches of 5 figures so may tackle the Copplstone Chinese bandit character pack next with possibly a standard bearer.
This has probably been asked before, who does WL Chinese standards?
Also, thoughts on painting the five-pointed star on the WL Chinese caps? I'm a reasonably neat painter but i'm not sure that my hand is steady enough to risk it. Leave it/paint it white/give it a go on one and over paint grey if i make a hash? Mmm - i may try the latter
Pics to follow
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Of possible interest regardig flags:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=2018.0
There's another post out there that actually has a flag, but my 3 second search didn't turn it up :D
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Of possible interest regardig flags:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=2018.0
There's another post out there that actually has a flag, but my 3 second search didn't turn it up :D
o_o o_o lol
That is what's known as a fair cop. Sorry, my bad - i was "Russian" (sic) this morning
I've printed off the 5 bar flag and the Republic battleflag. May look at something with Chinese characters/letters on it for the Bandits' standard [i have a plethora of Copplestone Chinese standard-bearers and by gad i'm going to use them!!]
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Not a problem-you seem to be on the same journey that I started when I caught the BOB bug. I would swear that there is another post on this forum on the subject of warlord flags, but I can't seem to locate it in 2 minutes or less
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Excuse me Mr Stanley I'm the only one here who can make jokes about"Russians."
By the by I've found some Victorian ladies in pith helmets and what look like hunting shot guns (!?) any use to you?
John
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Excuse me Mr Stanley I'm the only one here who can make jokes about"Russians."
By the by I've found some Victorian ladies in pith helmets and what look like hunting shot guns (!?) any use to you?
John
Ohh i say. I should bally well think so Bolshy dear boy. Add it to the collection [NWF artillery piece] and i'll pop over at some point soon and settle up.
Toodles!
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Apologies for the delay on this project team.
RL stopped play for a while. However, i'm back on my feet (or ar*e depending on your point of view as i work in an office)*
I've just finished reading Foreign Devils on the Silk Road and was chatting to the fellas yesterday evening. Next (game) up is an Archeological Expedition returning from the Takla Makan loaded with treasures via the Pamir range. That's dangerously close to Afghanistan and the Faithful have heard rumours of the defilement of their ancient holy places by Infidels. It could be messy!! It may, possibly, draw in regular British and Russian forces who are poised just waiting for such an incident as an excuse for a scrap.
*I may celebrate by buying a unit of Tibetan lancers or Mongols to complete my Chinese WL force (or at least the lead required)
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*I may celebrate by buying a unit of Tibetan lancers or Mongols to complete my Chinese WL force (or at least the lead required)
You should buy them all ;) :D. And if you are using Ignatieff's rules, Mongols and Tibetans are irregular, so you need at least a dozen of each. :)
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A dozen Tibetan Nomad cavalry it was. Oh, and a HMG for the Brits
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Bolshy and i are squeezing in a cheeky game of STEA tomorrow evening. An incursion by the Red Army into Afghanistan @192? The tribes don't like Infidels on their land, especially if they won't pay!
We'll bung on what we have between us and settle on a scenario
I'll try to remember to take a few shots
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I appear to have acquired a unit of 20 Redoubt Boxers with swords/polearms. A tad early for my WL project but hey, cannon fodder peasants at 100 paces ... lol
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More for my own amusement than anything, an update on what i have in terms of figures bought for my Chinese WL project ...
1. HQ incl Warlord, Officers and Frank Sutton
2. 20 Infantry plus buglars/standard bearers
3. 10 Dare to Die troops
4. 10 Assault troops with trench brooms
5. 10 Chinese Cavalry
6. Executioner(s) with prisoners
7. 2 x HMGs
8. 1 x Heavy Mortar
9. 1 x Light anti-tank Gun
10. 20 x Chinese Bandits
11. 12 x Tibetan Light Cavalry
13. 10 White Russian troops
14. 2 x White Russian HMGs
15 White Russian Officers/Priest
16. Austrian Armoured Car
17. 20 Chinese Peasants with swords/polearms [pending][Exchanged to our Bandit player]
17. RT-17 Light Tank (awaiting delivery)
I think that little lot should give plenty of scope for options :D
I also invested in some PMC adobe buildings which will do just as well for Kashgar as Afghanistan. And that lovely Chinese compound from Jim Bibbly
I may be short of an armoured train and carriages ...
I'm now ready to battle the project. Wish me luck, i'm going in!!
First up is finish the Chinese bandits as i have 10 painted 5 undercoated and another 5 on their way, then the 2nd unit of Chinese infantry. That should give me the core of the army then i can start to paint the good stuff
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Introducing BoB/STEA to a couple of the guys at the club tomo.
Chinese Bandits, Cossacks and British. 20 - 40 figures per faction.
I might combine at with "Plot Points" (or at least something similar) so as to avoid a straight shoot-out ....
Then the British v Bolshy's Reds on Thurs evening :D
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H.M.S.
It don't mean nothing if you don't post pics! For all I know you really bought a bunch pink spray painted toads and you are merely taunting us!!
LB
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A good point well made!!
I'll try to remember to take a camera :D
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I appear to have acquired a unit of 20 Redoubt Boxers with swords/polearms. A tad early for my WL project but hey, cannon fodder peasants at 100 paces ... lol
Nothing wrong with them old chap, i have around 20 of the same and as long as they can get past the maxim guns, artillery and rifles they can be quite effective in close combat lol.....having said that being irregular scum just giving them a dirty look tends to make them turn tail and run :)
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Nothing wrong with them old chap, i have around 20 of the same and as long as they can get past the maxim guns, artillery and rifles they can be quite effective in close combat lol.....having said that being irregular scum just giving them a dirty look tends to make them turn tail and run :)
Think ablative armour for better troops :D
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And we're back (again).
I keep dipping in and out of this project quicker than bathing on Whitby beach in December.
So, GoK and i have a winter game planned with his RCW. As i have a truly phenomenal painting block at the moment i've farmed out my figures.
And lo and behold they come back painted! Who would have thought it?
20 bandits & 20 infantry painted (plus a few character figs) with a further 20 chinese infantry and 10 regular cavalry in the process of.
Next i'll clean up the Tibetan cavalry plus the Warlord himself (mounted/dismounted) and his Generals.
Then the Support Weapons ...
I'll post photos over the wkd. Promise
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I'll post photos over the wkd. Promise
You better had ;D
cheers
James
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I'll post photos over the wkd. Promise
You better had Grin
cheers
James
+1
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Sorry to be a tease. I didn't get around to basing the figures until yesterday.
I'll post photos on Wednesday evening
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(http://i42.tinypic.com/ei3502.jpg)
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(http://i39.tinypic.com/2hg664y.jpg)
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(http://i41.tinypic.com/vy78t5.jpg)
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(http://i41.tinypic.com/qqoo03.jpg)
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(http://i40.tinypic.com/ojzbr.jpg)
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The lovely building is the work of our Mr Jimbibbly and the awesome Battle Standard from Flags of War - both on LAF of course
The ropier painting of figures is mine.
I should collect the rest of the Trench Brooms on Tues with my Dare to Die and a unit of Regular Chinese Cavalry
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Very very very nice, and well worth the wait!
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Great little collection 8)
cheers
James
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Thanks chaps
It will be nice to have this project finished and start regular gaming with it
I paid a fiver for the 8 x 6 gaming cloth and just threw it over my painting table, books, boxes of figs and misc crap. I'm surprised how well it looks lol
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Stop torturing me. :-X
I'm also busy painting Chinese and RCW because we have a game in two weeks and I'm not a good painter as you are. ;)
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Stop torturing me. :-X
I'm also busy painting Chinese and RCW because we have a game in two weeks and I'm not a good painter as you are. ;)
Ha ha
I painted most of it so far :D
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Huzzah!
Marco (Riff-Raff) tells me my FT-17 has been posted
I collect the Chinese Cavalry this evening (possibly the rest of the infantry too) and i have cleaned up the irregular cavalry, characters and support weapons.
Home stretch methinks :D
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Thumbs up! pics!
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Bugger! I forgot that i've still to do the armoured train ;)
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Gents,
I need help with colours for Tibetan irregular cavalry. I'm guessing fairly neutral colours/earth tones but pointers would be welcome
Thanks
James
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Bugger! I forgot that i've still to do the armoured train ;)
Train? Thank God I don't plan to do any train.
However I want a railway line in my next scenario.
Still undone...
The only part of the (Trans-Manchurian) railway line I've already nearly finished is... a coal pile lol
(http://www.argad-bzh.fr/heb/charbon.jpg)
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Train? Thank God I don't plan to do any train.
However I want a railway line in my next scenario.
Still undone...
The only part of the (Trans-Manchurian) railway line I've already nearly finished is... a coal pile lol
(http://www.argad-bzh.fr/heb/charbon.jpg)
Well, if you're not using it old son, send it over :D
Seriously, that looks really well.
How are the RCW/Chinese coming on Patrice?
James
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Gents,
I need help with colours for Tibetan irregular cavalry. I'm guessing fairly neutral colours/earth tones but pointers would be welcome
Thanks
James
Assuming that you own a copy of "Setting the East Ablaze", Ignatieff's Tibetan's are prominently featured on the cover, and well in one or two more shots in the book. Or at least that's what I am using as a painting guide.
:)
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Well, if you're not using it old son, send it over :D
It's cat litter. I don't know if it would burn well in a steam engine lol
How are the RCW/Chinese coming on Patrice?
I am still painting...
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Assuming that you own a copy of "Setting the East Ablaze", Ignatieff's Tibetan's are prominently featured on the cover, and well in one or two more shots in the book. Or at least that's what I am using as a painting guide.
:)
A good point well made. I shall consult the oracle ;)
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My pleasure. I am currently working on painting a dozen of them myself. They've been sitting there on the table for almost a year and I am have grown weary of them mocking me. lol
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My pleasure. I am currently working on painting a dozen of them myself. They've been sitting there on the table for almost a year and I am have grown weary of them mocking me. lol
So, as one colour-blind person (to another), what colours are you using? ;)
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I will check when I get home. Don't have them with me at work
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Huzzah!
Marco (Riff-Raff) tells me my FT-17 has been posted
I collect the Chinese Cavalry this evening ...
FT-17 has arrived (and rather splendid it looks too) and i've taken delivery of rather flashy Chinese Cavalry. The rest of my figures have gone to the painting fairies ... :D
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The Trench Brooms, Dare to Die and Chinese Cavalry are back with me and being based :)
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Now, the FT17, the Chinese "four colour" camouflage system or a green/grey. Both, i think, would be correct. One would look better than the other and i suspect i know which you'll suggest ;)
Anyway, a lovely model which is now based and undercoated
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I suspect the colour camouflage was in fact the original French camouflage scheme?
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Thanks Patrice.
I'm not sure whether it is the French system but have decided on trying the camouflage scheme. I have undercoated black and then dry-brushed light brown as a base colour. However, i'm thinking that beige/cream may be a better base.
I'll have to brush up on the pattern.
Cheers,
James
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I appear to have acquired a couple of lovely looking RCW White units to add to my Chinese as allies.
Ohh and i've doubled my British - painted too. Not to mention the Gurkhas in slouch hats
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Right, (because i can't be bothered with blogs)
Happy days! I took possession of the remainder of my painted Chinese yesterday and rather splendid they look too.
I just have to base everything and will then have to collar Bolshy for a nice big game.
So, all that is outstanding is the armoured train