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Miniatures Adventure => Post-Apocalyptic Tales => Topic started by: Achilles on November 09, 2012, 02:30:32 AM
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Doesn't look a thing like the book (running carver ants?) but still, big budget rage zombies. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HcwTxRuq-uk
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All right it does look like it might have a bit to do with the book, it may be the only change is the fast zombies
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Why even use the name? I don't recognize a single seen from the book... :? Will I still go see it...probably...but the book was so good that I'm prepared to be disappointed.
Blue
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Looks like Brad Pitt redid Resident Evil and 28 Days in one movie but on a crappy budget. Video rental!
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Looks like a rental to me :?
Way to take a good idea and mess it up....I do like the shots of the IDF trying to hold the wall, even if it was retarded how the (ZOMBIES) use a hive mind to swarm up it.
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Looks like battle of Yonkers is in there, but bloody fast zeds. Bollocks! :-[
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I feel like this would have been best served by a 'Band of Brothers' style HBO mini series.
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You mean like Walking Dead? ;)
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Brad Pitt vs Zombies?? GO ZOMBIES!!!
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You mean like Walking Dead? ;)
Don't get me started...
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I must admit I've never read the books, but I like the look of the film! It is a bit surreal for me though seeing George Square in Glasgow being overrun by zombies!!.......I mean their not even queuing at the post office for their benefit money!! How in realistic is that!!!! ;)
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I feel like this would have been best served by a 'Band of Brothers' style HBO mini series.
Yep.
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Why even use the name? I don't recognize a single seen from the book... :? Will I still go see it...probably...but the book was so good that I'm prepared to be disappointed.
Blue
I agree. I will defiantly go and see this one, but I will try to divorce the book and the film in my mind, so it doesn't spoil either. I love the book sooo much, it would be hard to live up too.
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Looks interesting, luckily I haven't read the book.
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Looks interesting, luckily I haven't read the book.
Join us...
No really; we have reliable rifles and very sharp entrenching tools. :D
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Join us...
No really; we have reliable rifles and very sharp entrenching tools. :D
I shall read the book after seeing the film as no doubt the book will be better.
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The movie could be absolutely fantastic... just not the story from the book (as it would seem).
Regardless, I do love me some big budget Zombies. Just PLEASE don't be I Am Legend.
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I've read the book which is cracking and I'll watch the film which looks great. What I wont do is draw much of connection between the two and that way things will be less complicated and my blood pressure will stay low.
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Good plan TC I concurb :D
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Brad Pitt vs Zombies?? GO ZOMBIES!!!
That ain't fiction. At the rate Angelina is deteriorating, she probably already qualifies as a zombie. ::)
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Snore!
I like my zeds partial to eating brains,
Brian
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Agreed WWW2. Looks like a snore fest
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Is that the book by Max Brooks, haven't read it but definately will.
I don't know what people are moaning about looks pretty good.
dodge
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Its because in the book there are certain attributes of the zombies that key parts of the book are based on including the survival guide. Yet the movie seems to ignore it.
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I've not read the books either, so is this a case of paying for the rights to a well established name and ignoring what made the books so well liked? When did the fast zombie become so de rigueur? I get the whole rage virus thing in 28 Days but isn't it contrary to the whole undead corpse ethos? Forgive my zombie tunnel vision! :D
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What I find most interesting about the book...is that it is a "History" book...it is written after the war by a man who collects the stories of survivors from all over the globe....The book is little snippets...or vignettes of what was happening all over the World thru out the war. I agree with one of the above posters that this would be a wonderful Mini Series...each episode could have been a few of these short stories...or one of the longer ones...would have been excellent.
This film obviously has to place Brad in all of this snippets and puts it in real time which ruins the whole feel and arch of the story...the fast zombie thing is another example that changes the whole jist of the thing.
So...I'll see the movie...but I will try to do as suggested above and mentally divorce it from the book...so I can lower my expectations and not ruin the rare trip to the movies.
Cheers,
Blue
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When did the fast zombie become so de rigueur? I get the whole rage virus thing in 28 Days but isn't it contrary to the whole undead corpse ethos? Forgive my zombie tunnel vision! :D
I've never understood the hankering for the slow Romero type zombie much. People seem to have a problem with a zombie running citing rigor mortis and such, yet never take issue with them being strong enough to tear a torso in two or pull a head clean off!
Fast zombies, or Zoombies, are "de rigeur" because willing suspension of disbelief no longer allows for the worlds militarise to be defeated by anything which would lose a race with an asthmatic ant carrying heavy shopping
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so I guess the question is, are they really zombies? Or are they plague victims? I never bought into the 28 days later, rage zombie. Becase they are not dead. There just really, Really, REALLY! Mad. >:(
No less scary mind you. But they can at least bleed out.
And I did like 28 days/ 28 weeks later. They will, just never be zombies to me.
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'Zoombies'! Like it :D
That's actually a very good point about slower zombies perhaps not being viewed as sufficiently threatning to modern audiences. I still like them shambling though!
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The thing that disappointed me the most about the trailer is simply the format change. The book, as Blue said, was done in little short-stories as part of a book, giving the actual book the sub-title "The Oral History of the Zombie Wars." I love the idea of a mini-series, although I do feel that doing it in a mock documentary style with interviews would have been fantastic as well. Sadly, we'll probably just see Brad Pitt running around as some former Delta Force superninja slaying zombies left and right, so I'll just turn my brain off and enjoy the eye candy. :)
As for slow vs fast, I don't mind either, although I do think that slow suits WWZ better simply because the terror of the zombies that the author was trying to convey was simply that their sheer inhumanity was their greatest weapon, which was why the Battle of Yonkers was such a big deal. The fact that they're a massive, slow, inexorable tide of walking death that will never stop no matter how many you blow to smithereens makes them, in my mind, that much more terrifying than runners which are scary mostly (to me) because well... they're fast and up in your grill haha. It's a gradual horrifying conclusion you come to watching it happen rather than a sudden "Ahh get away from me!" scare which is much more proximate and less horrifying.
Anyway, that's my .02. I've been a longtime lurker, so hi everyone! :)
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The sort of flowing liquid zombie swarm idea is pretty cool.
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LIQUID WAVE ZOMBIES!!!!! :o
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I think, as others have mentioned, a 'mini-series' format would have been better to bring the book to a visual medium. But I'm looking forward to the flick. I'm a sucker for zombie (or zoombie!) movies.
And we can always hope Brad Pitt ends up infected and the final shot is him reuniting with his family and eating them. lol
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In the book are they suppose to be dead or just infected? the wave effect of them falling over each other is a bit to CGI for me. Give me George Romero's zombies any day.
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They're dead in the book but reanimated by Solanum (iirc) a weird disease
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Let's see:
Battle of Yonkers - Check
Israel/ Palestine - Check
Boat settlement - Check
There's three already, I don't understand how you guys missed those. :?
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Looks like Resident Evil....bleeeeeh
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Yeah a rental for me too. Dissapointing, as I love the book. My question is, how does undeath or a rage virus suddenly make everyone svelt and capable of lemur- like acrobatics? Where are the fatties on that pile?
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Let's see:
Battle of Yonkers - Check
Israel/ Palestine - Check
Boat settlement - Check
There's three already, I don't understand how you guys missed those. :?
Noticed but there just nods to the book. Don't get me wrong, its going to be an action packed romp from begging to end. But as stated before, its just not true to the story or the feel of the book.
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Zombies are creepy, regardless of their speed.
I agree with most of the assessments, won't be the same as the book, but still may be interesting.
I just can't get over the fact that the son of the Man who brought us Young Frankenstien, Blazing Saddles and Spaceballs has become the resident expert on all things zombified.
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Zombies are creepy, regardless of their speed.
I agree with most of the assessments, won't be the same as the book, but still may be interesting.
I just can't get over the fact that the son of the Man who brought us Young Frankenstien, Blazing Saddles and Spaceballs has become the resident expert on all things zombified.
I'm not surprised. It's the tradition of all sons. Dad's into comedy? Run in the other direction.
My dad's a scientist. I went to art school. :)
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Welcome Ninja/...and well put!
Blue
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Yeah, I was excited when I heard they were making a movie based on the book, but it appears the only basing they're doing is, it's a war against zombies, that's world wide in scope!
I'll go see it, but I also won't connect it with the book!
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Let's see:
Battle of Yonkers - Check
Israel/ Palestine - Check
Boat settlement - Check
There's three already, I don't understand how you guys missed those. :?
...And Brad Pitt in all those scenes...I Dont remember that!
Blue
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Looks like another bad Holywood movie that relies on effects and action rather than storytelling and dialogue. Not a big fan of the fast zombies either. This will be a rental.
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I don't mind zombies that are reasonably fast... like how fast the average person at the Super Wal Mart can run for a special on ham nuggets. Even the zombies in NOTLD could build up some speed when there was a decent meal in sight.
But like has been said, this plague seems to have turned them all into track stars... taught them parkour... and given them a bit of super strength. It all looks too CGI for me... I like my zombies on a smaller, more personal scale so I can get to know them... nurse zombie, tennis pro zombie, kid in a cowboy costume zombie.
Big flowing rivers of them?... meh, I'd rather see a movie about The Blob.
The book does sound interesting though.
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Ive been meaning to read this book, glad i haven't yet. think ill wait till after the movie. fast zombies freak the shit outta me (but am a huge zombis fan), only cos I'm fat so I'll be one of the first to go lol lol
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I can only recommend the book and / or the audiobook!
The Zs decribed there are not as fast as shown in the movie clip!
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My friends and I were talking about this trailer the other night, and it was brought up that with zombies flowing in a huge mass like that, just how far would they make it before the majority of them were so badly trampled that they ended up as slow zombies/crawlers anyway, due to crushed/broken legs, spines, etc? lol ???
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Ya know what would make me dirt my pants double in a zombie plauge. If it could be transmitted to animals. Apparently we are never more than 5m away from a rat. Now imagine zombie rats. Nobody but nobody would survive.
There's some novel set in a zombie apocalypse where even the animals turn. All the characters die iirc. I forget the name though!
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I recommend Mira Grant's "Newsflesh" trilogy (Feed, Deadline and Blackout). The animating virus was spawned by the accidental combination of a cold-cure and a cancer treatment, and since it was an aerosolized release, everyone's infected. You don't "turn" until the virus undergoes 'amplification" in your blood-stream, usually by contact with activated virii from another source.
Problem is, any mammal over ~20kg weight can support amplification. So, after the Rise, everybody's a vegetarian - because raising cattle is just too dangerous!
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There's some novel set in a zombie apocalypse where even the animals turn. All the characters die iirc. I forget the name though!
Romero's Day of the Dead features a zombie crocodile.
(http://anythinghorror.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/day-of-the-dead-croc.jpg)
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It didnt spread to birds, they were happily pecking at infected dead
I googled and the novels I'm thinking of with undead animals are The Rising and City of the Dead by Brian Keene
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I've read the book which is cracking and I'll watch the film which looks great. What I wont do is draw much of connection between the two and that way things will be less complicated and my blood pressure will stay low.
I might try that approach too.
Still, it would be nice that at least once the book story was followed, when they title the movie as one...
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It didnt spread to birds, they were happily pecking at infected dead
I googled and the novels I'm thinking of with undead animals are The Rising and City of the Dead by Brian Keene
Yeah, the Rising is more Return of the Living Dead. Talking zombies, etc... Zombies driving tanks, Zombie birds...
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Potentially interesting zombie action movie but WWZ it aint.
Of course it was never going to be.
"Battle of Yonkers - Check
Israel/ Palestine - Check
Boat settlement - Check"
So basically nods to any little bit of the book which could most be used in "large action filled set pieces".
The most horrific, for me anyway, parts of the book are the close in claustrophobic stuff, the worst of all being the bit about the Paris sewers.
Now they could just be showing off the set pieces in the trailer, but if they have Pitt go to versions of everything mentioned in the book that will just be silly.
When it comes to running vs shambling with a kinda fast lunge when close zombies I generally like to keep things separated. Full on sprinting can be used well, example 28 days later while they are zombies by the usage of "single minded/lack of a reasoning mind" I do so much try to always keep them as infected as the world zombies is synonymous with the undead, there is a limit. When the zombies move from "undamaged ones can run as fast as a person" to "super speed olympic sprinters over long distances" it breaks down for me.
In terms of which I purely like better from a story perspective it has to be the slower kind, it leads to more interesting situations and a more mental based lingering constant fear in any survivors. With the fast kind all survivors do is react, shock and jump scares.