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Title: French and Indian stuff
Post by: Aaron on April 01, 2008, 03:59:19 PM
I had a productive burst in the two weeks before my back went and finished 40 of the new Blue moon figures. Since I bought fancy new terrain at Cold Wars I thought I'd use it to distract the discriminating eye from my utterly average paint work.

(http://[img]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y265/ThaddeusP/bradfrench1.jpg)[/img]

(http://[img]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y265/ThaddeusP/bradbrit1.jpg)[/img]

I really need to get a proper backdrop for photographing minis. The bad photoshop sky is pretty distracting!
Title: French and Indian stuff
Post by: chaplain severus on April 01, 2008, 04:35:59 PM
"average"  the figures look very nice to me.  Lots of effort and attention to detail from the picture. The scenery is swell too!

Matt
Title: French and Indian stuff
Post by: Torben on April 01, 2008, 04:38:31 PM
Looks very nice indeed - and I really like the terrain as well. I'm guessing that the grass is made from Teddy Fur?
Title: French and Indian stuff
Post by: PeteMurray on April 01, 2008, 04:38:43 PM
I'll agree - very little is average about those! I particularly like the Frenchies.
Title: French and Indian stuff
Post by: Aaron on April 01, 2008, 04:49:47 PM
Thanks gents. The field is indeed a teddy pelt. I got it and the corn behind the Frenchies from Battlefield Terrain Concepts. The trees are the GW ones I got on sale from the friendly local. They are altogether too manicured for F&I, but  I have yet to finish assembling any of the much better ones I got in my tree "kit".
Title: French and Indian stuff
Post by: Plynkes on April 01, 2008, 05:14:02 PM
Smashing. Very atmospheric. That long grass is great, too.
Title: French and Indian stuff
Post by: Le matou rouge on April 01, 2008, 05:28:17 PM
Thank you very much for your pics : I think it's the first time we can see these Blue Moon figures.
Your painting is very clean and the Grenadiers mitres looks really great, but I'm not too fond about the color choices. The French blue is OK, maybe too light, but where do you find this english red : it looks like cherry (but maybe it's the light...)
And at least, of course, they're painted, so you're right  :wink: as my FIW project always waited in box and I'm unable to paint half as good as you !

meow,
Matt
Title: French and Indian stuff
Post by: Aaron on April 01, 2008, 06:15:35 PM
I think the color may be a bit off on the lighting. The French are indeed a bit lighter than they should be, but the Brits are a nice brick red in person. I use a combo of Vallejo burnt cadmium red and cavalry brown with some flat red highlighting. Officers get some crimson and scarlet thrown over top since they usually bought their own kit.
Title: French and Indian stuff
Post by: The Hooded Claw on April 01, 2008, 07:36:05 PM
The paint jobs are very nice and make for great tabletop work.  The color seems good and the lines are nice and clean.  The photo work isn't the best but I'm not one to talk.

I would like to take this moment to point something out about Blue Moon's stuff and their efforts to get their products out to the public.

Is it just me, or do these look like totally different figs than what you would see on their website?  Something about the way in whihc Blue Moon chooses to paint and/or photograph and then post their figs always seems to leave them lacking when compared to when you see them in the raw or presented elseswhere.  I would not have bought these figs based on what I saw on their site, but would certainly drop the bucks on them now.

Sorry for the hijack, but this seemed a good place to bring this up while everyone was looking at the figs.

Once again, wonderful work Aaron you truely bring out the good in these minis.

Thanks,
Title: French and Indian stuff
Post by: Aaron on April 01, 2008, 07:44:53 PM
Thanks HC. It is funny you should say that as I'm on of their painters. As mentioned in another thread here I was starting to be discouraged by some of the comments people were making and wondered if it was my paint jobs or the photography. I'm certainly no master painter, but it would seem that I may have found the culprit...

I have to finish a Mexican-American War project for a friend and then it's back to F&I for me. I need to paint 24 Eureka provincials and as many Eureka and Old Glory highlanders as I can manage for a big Grant's defeat game at Historicon. Actually if the game scheduling works out right they may also appear in a Bushy Run game as well as some smaller skirmish games in conjunction with my collection of Conquest stuff and the collections of some friends.

Oh, and the crappy photo shop paint background was my first attempt with some free software I had laying around. I may practice with it a bit, but I'll probably either paint a backdrop or buy one of the ones sold for model railroads. I'm honestly too lazy to spend the effort required to learn new software.
Title: French and Indian stuff
Post by: The Hooded Claw on April 01, 2008, 08:04:14 PM
Well, as my post points out, I'm not sure why the pics on the site are lacking.  I would suspect that it is not the paint jobs but the presentation on the site.  They seem a little tall and lanky compared to your pics.
Title: French and Indian stuff
Post by: flytime on April 01, 2008, 08:14:51 PM
I like them. They look fine :) !
Title: French and Indian stuff
Post by: Captain Blood on April 01, 2008, 08:40:42 PM
Yay! Teddy bear fur...  :wink:

I agree, these figures look great. Really nice. Have you done any of the Indians yet? That's when I'll really be tempted, so supplement my Redoubt Woodlanders...

And I so completely agree about Blue Moon's ads. The painting in their ads here in the UK in WI CANNOT be by you, because your painting in the pix above is really top-notch. But in their ads, their figures are clumsily painted in a kind of garish, cartoony style with what looks like gloss paint. Really quite off-putting, and - as is now becoming apparent - doing a major disservice to what turn out to be really very nice figures.  :(

Sorry, I know I keep droning on about it - but: WHO DOES THE MARKETING FOR SOME OF THESE OUTFITS???!!
Title: French and Indian stuff
Post by: JollyBob on April 01, 2008, 09:00:15 PM
I'd just like to add my agreement to both The Hooded Claw and Captain Blood, and say that this just reinforces what I've said for a while.

Some lovely figures, and your painting is great.  :)
Title: French and Indian stuff
Post by: Aaron on April 02, 2008, 12:14:52 PM
Thanks again. I haven't seen the WI ads, but OG UK usually use their own painters. I have painted the Indians. I have about six Redoubt figures and I think they would mix alright. They are coming out with another pack of Indians soon I believe. These will be multi-part to allow for some more variety.

I keep meaning to take a comparison photo with figures from BM, OG, Conquest, and Eureka to show the size difference. Maybe I'll remember tonight...

I have become a huge convert to teddy fur. I think the stuff I picked up is a little too brown for my liking, but it works for now. I want to grab some in a couple of lighter shades and maybe even experiment with dyeing some of it a (natural) green.
Title: French and Indian stuff
Post by: Captain Blood on April 02, 2008, 01:21:56 PM
Ah, small metal men roaming free through waving fields of green-dyed teddy bear fur...

It's like some mega-hallucinogenic trip!

Lewis Carrol - eat your heart out!  :lol:
Title: French and Indian stuff
Post by: Aaron on April 04, 2008, 01:09:42 PM
I finally got off my ass and took a manufacturer comparison "mugshot". From left to right these are Blue Moon, Perry, Conquest, Old Glory, and Eureka. Please note that my ruler actually starts measuring a mm or two above the bottoms of the feet.

(http://[img]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y265/ThaddeusP/FIsizecomparisons.jpg)[/img]
Title: French and Indian stuff
Post by: Captain Blood on April 04, 2008, 03:21:17 PM
Thanks - very useful... Looks like Blue Moon are a good 30mm, so should scale in pretty well with Redoubt then, as they're on the large side as well.

Clearly both the Perrys AWI and Conquest 500 Nations figures take some beating when it comes to quality, but the Blue Moon figure looks reasonably good too.

Alas, your picture does rather show up the less exquisite sculpting of the OG and Eureka figures. They look pretty crude by comparison.  :(

I'd love to see pictures of the Blue Moon Woodland Indians, once you have them.
Title: French and Indian stuff
Post by: Aaron on April 04, 2008, 03:28:28 PM
I realize it's all very subjective, but I really like the Eureka figures. No one else makes highlanders in campaign gear anyway and I hate painting the diced hose! There is little doubt that the Conquest and Perry stuff is the best thing going now, though. Eric keeps making noise about doing Brit and French regulars. I'll be out a large wad of cash when that happens!

And will do on the Indians. I saw masters of the multi-parters about a montha ago. I really thought I'd have a set in my hot hands by now.
Title: French and Indian stuff
Post by: PeteMurray on April 04, 2008, 03:35:04 PM
I've got some of Conquest's Rangers and French Marines, and they are incredible. The detail is astounding and dead on for accuracy. I also got the new pack of frontiersmen, who have character to spare. The facial expression on Dan Boone is enough to scare a man.
Title: French and Indian stuff
Post by: Aaron on April 04, 2008, 04:00:38 PM
I have one of everything from Conquest in the F&I line. I'm a total Conquest whore. I'm working on Dan'l and three other frontiersmen right now between other projects. Once those four are done I just have the marines to do and I'm be out of Conquest stuff to paint. Hopefully Eric will have new goodies out by then.
Title: Re: French and Indian stuff
Post by: Pijlie on June 08, 2014, 08:52:46 AM
I am looking for a size comparison picture of Conquest, Warlord and/or Old Glory woodland Indians.

Although this post predates the release of the Warlord ones, it mentions pictures of Conquest and OG figures.

Would it be possible to repost those? Comparative pics for Conquest and OG prove very hard to find (or any good pictures of OG Indians, in any case).
Title: Re: French and Indian stuff
Post by: Aaron on June 09, 2014, 12:18:05 PM
This is the best I have. It shows (from left to right) Old Glory, Perry, Blue Moon, Conquest, Eureka. I don't own any Warlord figures, but aren't their F&I line just repackaged Conquest figures?

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/520_24_03_10_1_47_11.jpg)
Title: Re: French and Indian stuff
Post by: Captain Blood on June 09, 2014, 12:21:29 PM
I don't own any Warlord figures, but aren't their F&I line just repackaged Conquest figures?

Correct.
Title: Re: French and Indian stuff
Post by: Pijlie on June 10, 2014, 08:02:00 AM
Thank you! The OG and Conquest figures seem very comparable.