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Miniatures Adventure => Colonial Adventures => Topic started by: JollyBob on April 02, 2008, 12:08:10 PM
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I was having a look at these Foreign Legion types as a possible mercenary/colonial force for my ever expanding Lost World stuff, and wanted to get some opinions before I committed:
http://dixonminiatures.co.uk/dixoncatalogue.asp?maintype=19
They are sculpted by Mike Owen (Artizan?) and look pretty good, especially for the price, but I would be interested to know if they fit with newer Artizan, Foundry and Copplestone minis. I know that other Dixon ranges tend to be somewhat "unique", shall we say... :roll:
Please tell me they are rubbish, cos I promised myself I wasn't going to buy any more until I'd painted what I've got already. :cry:
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Interesting looking range, but, and this is my pet pieve, I am highly critical of online shops without images of hteir goods. Booo!
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I am pretty sure although not certain that they are more in keeping with Dixon anatomy than the others you mentioned.
Been tempted to try them myself on numerous occasions but as I have now consigned my Dixons samurai to the attic as they dont really work with the newer TAG ones I have resisted for this reason.
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Hammers, I feel the same way. What are they hiding? :lol:
The pics they do show look taller and slimmer than "regular" Dixon minis, so I thought they might work. The natives they show look pretty good in that respect.
I don't mind if they are a bit rough and unkempt looking, they are a for a "Lost Patrol" after all, but if they are significantly smaller than everyone else it might look a bit rubbish.
Thanks for your replies fellas. :)
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I was told, maybe in theminiaturepage, they are the same size of foundry.
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Funnily enough JB as you were cornering the market in Foudnry, copplestone etc :wink: I picked these up last month with the bearers and some of the natives.
I have to say they are slightly smaller than foundry on some poses and it is more noticeable on other figures.
The French are ok, some are very nice whilst others are a bit err.. below par.
The natives are very limited in poses but a good pack is the chief and his entourage.
To me I would say Mike must have cut his teeth in colonial stuff on these, some of the tell tale poses etc are there but some are missing and latter figures have benefitted from them.
The range is very much incomplete and I was looking to suppplement them with Belgians in the future
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JB, Thanks for asking !
Interesting looking range, but, and this is my pet pieve, I am highly critical of online shops without images of hteir goods. Booo!
Me too ! I desperatly search pics on the web, but found nothing.
But I wanted them so much I bought them all !
It's been a year then now, but there're still in lead :oops:
But now, at least, I have a camera so I tried to put them on the web : here's the link :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dahomeyproject/
Sorry for the crappy pics but they're my firsts.
I tried to present them by pack but I'm not very sure of the exact composition of the French ones.
Lowtardog is right : there are size variations between the packs, the highest being the French, except the tirailleurs, which are very nice but maybe the smallest of the range :roll:
And both the tirailleurs and the Dahomey men and women marching are one same mini x4 in each pack.
All in all, I love them a lot (but maybe because they are my first "real" historicals minis). Now, if only I could paint them for the League :cry:
hope that helps...
meow,
Matt
PS : I'll try to post a comparative pic as soon as I can.
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(http://dixonminiatures.co.uk/images/Dahh2.jpg)
are this from LF1 and LF2?
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Le Matou Rouge, that is extremely helpful, thank you! :)
I wasn't after the whole range, but those pics have helped me decide that the ones I did want are worth getting.
Dammit, that backfired a bit.
@ Lowtardog: I thought they were probably early sculpts by Mike, and you're right, you can see his favourite poses taking shape there, especially the "big hello" pose he likes for officers and NCOs.
There's definitely enough in there to form a small party of Lost Legion explorers though. Now I have to sneak them past the missus.
I'll look forward to comparing them with yours, assuming I get round to painting them.
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are this from LF1 and LF2?
I think so, except the central one which is evidently the buggler (look at his left hand) :wink:
but those pics have helped me decide that the ones I did want are worth getting.
It was the goal, "Because they're worth it too!" :oops:
meow,
Matt
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Well, I just ordered the first four packs of Frenchies, some bearers, pack mules and the Dahomey king pack.
Hopefully they'll be in next month's paint log.
Lowtardog, did yours arrive quickly? I just noticed it says to allow up to ten days for the order to be processed, never mind shipping times. :?
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JB, Thanks for asking !
Interesting looking range, but, and this is my pet pieve, I am highly critical of online shops without images of hteir goods. Booo!
Me too ! I desperatly search pics on the web, but found nothing.
But I wanted them so much I bought them all !
It's been a year then now, but there're still in lead :oops:
But now, at least, I have a camera so I tried to put them on the web : here's the link :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dahomeyproject/
Sorry for the crappy pics but they're my firsts.
I tried to present them by pack but I'm not very sure of the exact composition of the French ones.
Lowtardog is right : there are size variations between the packs, the highest being the French, except the tirailleurs, which are very nice but maybe the smallest of the range :roll:
And both the tirailleurs and the Dahomey men and women marching are one same mini x4 in each pack.
All in all, I love them a lot (but maybe because they are my first "real" historicals minis). Now, if only I could paint them for the League :cry:
hope that helps...
meow,
Matt
PS : I'll try to post a comparative pic as soon as I can.
You know, they lkook bloody good seeing them in the naked lead like that. I may have to purchase them one day when I get into the whole DA scene.
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Well, I just ordered the first four packs of Frenchies, some bearers, pack mules and the Dahomey king pack.
Hopefully they'll be in next month's paint log.
Lowtardog, did yours arrive quickly? I just noticed it says to allow up to ten days for the order to be processed, never mind shipping times. :?
I am not sure, I dont think they were the quickest if memory serves a couple of weeks or there about
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If honest I would avoid the Tirailleurs as they are arabic and more suited for Algeria etc than African Dahomey. I gave them to a mate doing FFL in blue uniform. Also they have only 1 pose in each pack which narked me a bit. This is also true of the Dahomy men marching.
The bearers are a little crude and IMHO opinion not very african features.
I am saving the ones I painted for the League so you may see them soon :D
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Cool! Cheers for that.
I wasn't that fussed about the Tirailleurs anyway, and haven't ordered them, so I can avoid disappointment that way.
A couple of weeks delivery time is ok I guess, it'll give me time to clear the decks of some other stuff before they arrive.
Now I just have to decide whether to paint them historically accurate, or as a ragtag mercenary force. Oh, wait.... :wink:
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Sir Jolly Bob KLM.
Don't expect the figures to arrive quickly. I know Trevor Dixon quite well and have ordered many things from him in the past. They will take up to 28 days to arrive, so sit tight and be prepared to be patient.
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Yeah, no worries. I know they have a relatively small staff and are out at shows a lot at the moment too. No rush, I just wondwered when I could expect to fit them into my plan of (lost) world domination.
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If have all the FFL and some of the other Dahomey mini's. Initially I bought them to convert them to Dutch KNIL, but as they were most white beardy folk (and the KNIL were not) they are still in my closet waiting to be painted. Quality is excellent, I got mine from spirit games BTW.
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That's good to know about the quality Motorway, thanks.
I didn't know you could get them from Spirit Games, I'll ahve to have a good look round on their website, see what else they have to offer. :)
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Ive ordered these last week, for collection at Salute. Dont mind the figures being a bit variable from Foundry/Copplestone in size, but its a shame if the tirailleurs are not acccurate. Was toying with the idea of getting the old glory porters set too, does anyone know how they scale up with Foundry?
While Im at it, how do Askari measure to these ranges too?
Thnks
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Ive ordered these last week, for collection at Salute. Dont mind the figures being a bit variable from Foundry/Copplestone in size, but its a shame if the tirailleurs are not acccurate. Was toying with the idea of getting the old glory porters set too, does anyone know how they scale up with Foundry?
While Im at it, how do Askari measure to these ranges too?
Thnks
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Ive ordered these last week, for collection at Salute. Dont mind the figures being a bit variable from Foundry/Copplestone in size, but its a shame if the tirailleurs are not acccurate. Was toying with the idea of getting the old glory porters set too, does anyone know how they scale up with Foundry?
While Im at it, how do Askari measure to these ranges too?
Thnks
There is a small picture on the OG US site but always worth looking at them in the flesh with OG. They look OK though from the picture
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I have heard that the porters set is the worst one of the range for sculpting quality. I haven't seen them in the lead, but I would be careful about pre ordering that pack. Check them out first :?
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Thanks for that Malamute, I was considering ordering them first, now I will check them if they bring that pack to salute, Ive already got the Foundry ones and I think Reviresco do some too, although the pics on there site dont look great, although that may be the paint jobs.
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Arrived this morning! Woot!
A bunch of very nice figures indeed, they have exactly the right ragged-bothered explorer look that I wanted, tons of character. :love:
Very obviously Mike Owen sculpts, and full of his usual nice touches, even the rank and rile troops are really characterful, but the Dahomey king pack is by far the best. The European trader in that pack looks like Wolverine's dad! :lol:
Seriously, these get a very good recommendation from me, and for the ridiculously low price of them, you can't really complain about having to wait an extra week or so for them to arrive.
Malamute, if you see Trevor Dixon in the near future, please pass on my thanks and regards as a very satisfied customer. Top notch.
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I told you "they're worth it too" ! :wink:
meow,
Matt
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That you did. Many thanks. :)
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How you goiung to paint them Jolly Bob as I have the same Frenchies? but havent touched them yet
And see told you about the kings pack, my favourite too, I like Todger the little bell boy best :D
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I like Todger the little bell boy best :D
He's ace isn't he?
But I can't work out if he's the King since he has the most gold braid, or if the guy in the robe is the King because he's more stately of bearing. :?:
Still, I guess if you're the hereditary despot of a gold and ivory rich African counrtry, you can choose the "pants optional" look if you really want to.
I was planning on going something similar to the pic on the Dixon page for a colour scheme, white pants and light brown/kahaki tunics, for a unified mercenary look, while staying away from the recognisable colours of a European power. Certainly nothing too historically accurate, as I can't be bothered researching it.
Maybe some of the officers or NCOs could have something that denotes their earlier service record though. From before they were dishonourably discharged, of course. :wink:
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Sounds a good plan, I was thinking along the same lines.
Yes I think it is the guy with the robe wrapped around him very stately, it would be fun though if it was little Todger though :D
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Yes I think it is the guy with the robe wrapped around him very stately,
I think you're right :
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9d/Behanzin1894.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behanzin
meow,
Matt
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Yes I think it is the guy with the robe wrapped around him very stately,
I think you're right :
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9d/Behanzin1894.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behanzin
meow,
Matt
I need to get a pipe like that for when I am gaiming I can fil it with bubbles and blow at tense moments in the game :mrgreen:
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I need to get a pipe like that for when I am gaiming I can fil it with bubbles and blow at tense moments in the game :mrgreen:
Very stately :lol:
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What's the difference between the Marines and the Legionnaires here? I really like this range and am going to pick it up. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
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If you have a look at Le Matou Rouge's photos here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dahomeyproject/
You can see there doesn't seem to be that much difference. Some slight variation on equipment maybe, and I think they don't look as ragged, but otherwise would probably mix in with the same paintjob.
I didn't get the marines though, so this is all guesswork.
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Yes, some difference in equipment. The most noticeable is that the marines are wearing gaiters while the legionnaires have trousers tied at the ankles.
Ah, and all the 4 marines in the pack are variations of the same pose. :(