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Title: German Super Heavy Tank...WIP.....NEW PICS ADDED
Post by: Pappa Midnight on April 02, 2008, 09:44:22 PM
Just started putting together a Weird War German Super heavy Tank.
The chassis is a 1:35 Panther and the turret is of a GW Baneblade. The guns are from my "Bits Box".
As you can see it will be quite a big beasty!!!
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/pappa_midnight/SuperPanzer1.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/pappa_midnight/SuperPanzer2.jpg)

I will post pics as I go.

Regards
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Title: German Super Heavy Tank...WIP.....NEW PICS ADDED
Post by: marrony on April 02, 2008, 09:53:06 PM
Blimey charlie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: twrchtrwyth on April 02, 2008, 10:13:11 PM
Do you have a magic bits box of creating whatever you want?  8)
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Post by: wolfgangbrooks on April 03, 2008, 01:48:00 AM
I would've rather seen one that was styled after the designs for the german landship.
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Post by: Chairface on April 03, 2008, 04:26:00 AM
Talk about Blitzkrieg!
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Post by: KeyanSark on April 03, 2008, 11:02:35 AM
Can't wait to see it painted!!  :love:
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Post by: Plynkes on April 03, 2008, 11:05:00 AM
Only trouble is the time between shots. You fire the guns and then a recovery crew have to go and fetch the turret from that field half a mile behind the tank, and then return and fix it back onto hull. And then you still have to reload it!  :)
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Post by: KeyanSark on April 03, 2008, 11:10:11 AM
Quote from: "Plynkes"
Only trouble is the time between shots. You fire the guns and then a recovery crew have to go and fetch the turret from that field half a mile behind the tank, and then return and fix it back onto hull. And then you still have to reload it!  :)


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Post by: Pappa Midnight on April 03, 2008, 04:17:49 PM
Thanks for the comments!

twrchtrwyth: The "Secret" to a good bits box is NEVER throw out un-used bits of kits ( although my missus would argue the point about the cluttered spare room!!)

wolfgangbrooks: I would love to build a landship ( possibly a future project) but space tends to dictate what I make, as well as how it would be used on a 6'X4' table!

Plynkes:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Firing both guns would cause LOT of recoil! I was thinking that if one gun fired a split second after the first, the shell would pass through the mangled armor caused by the first shot, destroying the target.
........The you could go and recover the turret......... :mrgreen:

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Title: German Super Heavy Tank...WIP.....NEW PICS ADDED
Post by: KeyanSark on April 03, 2008, 05:25:50 PM
Quote from: "Pappa Midnight"
NEVER throw out un-used bits of kits ( although my missus would argue the point about the cluttered spare room!!)


Yours too, eh??  :lol:
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Post by: Vanvlak on April 03, 2008, 05:51:29 PM
Very nice Papp  8)  8)
Paint it! Paint it!

Incidentally, I'd once tackled a similar project - or rather, I still have to, as only the turret is done. It's in 1:35 scale, and I went for something a little smaller  - a Pz II!
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j108/vanvlak/WW2SF/DSCF1744.jpg)
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Post by: slobberblood on April 03, 2008, 06:56:36 PM
Pappa what rules do you use for your vehicles?
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Post by: Weird WWII on April 03, 2008, 07:11:53 PM
Pappa you gotta put some zimmerite  on that bad boy!  That would really give a cool effect because I could just envision desperate tank hunters trying to close assault that bad boy with sticky and magnetic mines after their bazookas or at guns bounce off it's armor.

Brian
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Post by: marrony on April 03, 2008, 08:27:33 PM
What kind of colour scheme are you contemplating??? Russian front or more tradtional panzer colours?I reckon it would look excellent either way.
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Post by: Weird WWII on April 03, 2008, 08:53:35 PM
You could always say they are rigid recoilless guns.  I'm sure that bad boy could take it.  I believe the Germans were developing a recoilless for the Hetzer in the later days of the war so they could mount a larger gun on it's smaller chassis.

Brian
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Post by: Westfalia Chris on April 03, 2008, 09:07:16 PM
I´d never have thought this combination to work, but it does!

Those guns are excellent. I love those perforated muzzle brakes. Did you sand off the rivets from the BB turret?

Not sure about the Zimmerit thing Brian suggested. While I really love the look of it, I always thought it looks a bit strange on something of "Landkreuzer" scale. I´d prefer a smooth, possibly ceramic look to it. Or a cast-steel surface. I guess it would have a platoon of Panzerkampfanzüge to support it against pesky infantry, anyway. :lol:
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Post by: Pappa Midnight on April 04, 2008, 12:44:47 AM
Thanks for the feedback!
I haven't managed to do any more to it today but I'll get stuck in over the weekend.

The Pz II would still look impressive at 1:35 scale compared to 28mm minis. Looks like a good start with the turret!

Rules wise, I'm still waiting for the "Full Version" of the Secrets of the Third Reich in order to field some of the bigger beasties. I am working on stats for the "Rules of Engagement" set of rules at the moment ( including walkers) although the rule-set is more suited for platoon sized engagements.

I had thought about Zimmerit with this one ( it being such an obvious target for infantry). I will build it up some more and see what it's going to look like before I decide.

Colour-wise I will probably go for my "traditional" dark yellow as it fits with the rest of my stuff. Saying that, I got given an airbrush so I may have a go at some camo.

The guns are the only suitably large ones I had at hand ( spares from my "Dust Games" Gunther kit). I was going to try to get hold of a couple of 1:35 scale 88's but I thought that these would look more "Weird War" rather than just up-scaling existing weapons.

Yes Chris, I HAD TO sand off those rivets! They looked way out of place on what is supposed to be a WW2 tank!!!

Thank you all for you interest.
I will post some more WIP pictures as I go.

Regards
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Title: German Super Heavy Tank...WIP.....NEW PICS ADDED
Post by: Westfalia Chris on April 04, 2008, 06:52:20 AM
Quote from: "Pappa Midnight"
Yes Chris, I HAD TO sand off those rivets! They looked way out of place on what is supposed to be a WW2 tank!!!


Good riddance, I say! Now, I´m an infamous rivethead, but those on the Baneblade are simply ridiculously huge.
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Post by: majorsmith on April 04, 2008, 06:09:25 PM
i think zimmeritt would look out of place on this vehicle, i would go with the look of the 'maus' tank, and alot of late war tanks didnt even have zim on them.
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Post by: pnweerar on April 06, 2008, 04:08:48 AM
The Germans did indeed have a landship design (two in fact). The one that most looks like this (that I'm using a GW kit to build as well) is the P1000 Landkreuzer.
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Post by: Pappa Midnight on April 06, 2008, 02:36:45 PM
Quote from: "pnweerar"
The Germans did indeed have a landship design (two in fact). The one that most looks like this (that I'm using a GW kit to build as well) is the P1000 Landkreuzer.


That's where I got the idea for the Twin Guns................Unfortunately I haven't got the table space or materials to make one "Exactly" like the P1000 ( She would have been HUGE!!!!!!!!!), mine's about Maus scale.
I would love to see how you are getting on with yours.

Regards
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Post by: assi on April 06, 2008, 05:28:49 PM
Quote from: "Pappa Midnight"
Unfortunately I haven't got the table space or materials to make one "Exactly" like the P1000 ( She would have been HUGE!!!!!!!!!)


Cant agree there, the P1500 defines a new "huge"

(http://i.somethingawful.com/booklist/images/monster03.gif)

Looky here (http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2110.0;prev_next=prev)
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Post by: twrchtrwyth on April 06, 2008, 05:36:22 PM
Just one P1500 would provide the table, scenario and the German side of a game! :lol:
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Post by: Malamute on April 07, 2008, 08:36:48 AM
My oh my its a wopper.  :o Nice on Pappa :)
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Post by: Pappa Midnight on April 07, 2008, 05:11:08 PM
Ok, I give up! That P1500 is HUGE!
Totally agreee that you could use that beast AS THE TABLE!!!


Quote from: "Malamute"
My oh my its a wopper.  :o Nice on Pappa :)


Damn, I should turn my Web Cam off!  :lol:

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Title: German Super Heavy Tank...WIP.....NEW PICS ADDED
Post by: assi on April 07, 2008, 05:58:58 PM
Quote from: "Pappa Midnight"
Ok, I give up! That P1500 is HUGE!
Totally agreee that you could use that beast AS THE TABLE!!!


Yours still cool ;)
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Post by: TadPortly on April 07, 2008, 09:08:16 PM
As this is a tank related thread, thought you might like to know that the latest edition of Military Modelling has an article on the KV 5 (its a whopper with a 120mm gun in a turret - think super KV2) with 1/35 plans and templates.  Those who are whizzes with photocopiers/scanners should not have too much trouble in rescaling them.
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Post by: Schogun on April 07, 2008, 10:00:34 PM
More cool pix/artist renditions of the P1000 and P1500 at:

http://www.vincelewis.net/ultratank.html
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Post by: V on April 08, 2008, 12:06:36 AM
Quote from: "Kampfgruppe Cottrell"
You could always say they are rigid recoilless guns.  I'm sure that bad boy could take it.  I believe the Germans were developing a recoilless for the Hetzer in the later days of the war so they could mount a larger gun on it's smaller chassis.

Brian



Hmmmm...

Venting a recoiless in a tank maybe interesting...

BBQ crew...  :lol:
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Post by: Torradas on April 08, 2008, 12:22:07 AM
(http://torradas.googlepages.com/ratte_demotivational3.jpg)

;)
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Post by: Pappa Midnight on April 22, 2008, 09:28:35 PM
Just a couple of quick shots up a "Mock up" build of the work so far.
There is still more detailing to do ( A ladder and some other parts) and the tracks need to be assembled ( individual links.....bummer!!!)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/pappa_midnight/SuperPanzer3.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/pappa_midnight/SuperPanzer4.jpg)

Can't wait to get some paint on this beasty!!

Regards
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Post by: assi on April 23, 2008, 11:16:20 AM
I like it, Two Barrel = Fun *2!
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Post by: marrony on April 23, 2008, 05:49:39 PM
Very,very nice. :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Malamute on April 23, 2008, 05:56:50 PM
Lookin' good 8)
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Post by: Sendak on May 03, 2008, 04:33:36 PM
I have am convinced the bitz or grubbins are a commodity.

That adds the idea of value to them.

Of course, the value of having just the right selection for the next conversion or creation is 'price-less'.

Good demonstration of ingenuity, genius from 'cast-off'.

Beautiful machines by the way.

I join the chorus on a peep at the finished beastie.
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Post by: Pappa Midnight on May 03, 2008, 04:40:18 PM
Thanks for the comments!

It's been on hold for a little while whilst I hit my Russians. I have base coated it with dark yellow and hopefully I'll get chance to paint it soon.

Regards
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