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Miniatures Adventure => SuperHero Adventures => Topic started by: axabrax on February 26, 2013, 04:30:48 PM
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Wasn't sure where to post this as I was thinking for Empire of the Dead, but who has ideas for Victorian/Gothic/Steampunk Superheros? I would love to find one for not Spiderman/Batman.
There are some cool concepts like these out there for spidey and friends (http://io9.com/5924067/steampunk-spider%20man-and-his-nemesis-victorian%20era-doctor-octopus)
And this fellow has some cool ideas for Bats (http://www.comicartfans.com/comic-artists/David_Hitchcock.asp)
Anyone have any ideas for figs that could be modded or stand in? i was thinking Warmachine might have something, but I don't know the range that well...
Ax
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Have you been reading my Blog LoL!
http://the-illustrated-london-news.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/victorian-superhero-miniatures.html (http://the-illustrated-london-news.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/victorian-superhero-miniatures.html)
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This same conversation is going on in a few other threads. So far I don't think anyone has found any suitable minis. I still can't believe that nobody makes anything along these lines >:(. With all the VSF lines & games it really seems like a no-brainer money maker.
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Just Google: Batman by Gaslight
You will get a lot of wonderful pictures and the album is realy good. Batman vs Jack the Ripper in Gotham
It doesnt seams to be that hard to convert a heroclix Batman to fit the bill.
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What conversion LoL!
Rip this sucker of his base, clean him up, re-base, and paint - Done!
(http://www.trollandtoad.com/images/products/pictures/1012243.jpg)
Working on one at the moment!
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How about "Dredd of the Yard" . . . . . lol
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HiGM6U29rFY/US0ZXyzOPuI/AAAAAAAABcQ/Y7T2D_i9iIM/s1600/Dredd+of+the+Yard.jpg)
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I had a similar idea- and I never did manage to find that many figures, but I thought that these Bushwackers made great thugs and henchmen!
http://www.brigadegames.com/Bushwackers-I-5_p_292.html
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Reaper do a nice not-Rhino that could work as a villain.
http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Chronoscope/latest/50262
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How about "Dredd of the Yard" . . . . . lol
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HiGM6U29rFY/US0ZXyzOPuI/AAAAAAAABcQ/Y7T2D_i9iIM/s1600/Dredd+of+the+Yard.jpg)
Actually I really like this idea :D
Mind how you go... That tickled me ... Nice one.
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That Reaper not Rhino is fantastic! Just made its way onto my future purchases list
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Seamus Avatar from Malifaux for a Victorian Hulk?
http://wyrd-games.net/shop/Seamus-Avatar-of-Dread.html
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Seamus Avatar from Malifaux for a Victorian Hulk?
http://wyrd-games.net/shop/Seamus-Avatar-of-Dread.html
Great find Ian! I like that guy.
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Cheers.
Thats all I have at the moment. I'm sure there are others though
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@Van Helsing : How does he size up, you never know with clix since they're all over the place?
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Hm...I wonder if you could find a Dredd figure whose head wouldn't look terribly out of place on one of the EotD bobbies?
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There's Ironcladman, of course - am I allowed to mention Marvel? Someone said the Hulk, so I figure it's OK... Mr Hyde-type minis might be a good Hulk substitute, the whole 'scientist goes crazy and becomes a behomoth' thing is pretty much directly ripped from Jeckyll and Hyde.
What would the Victorian equivalent of Batman be? Two suggestions come to mind:
1 - a wealthy industrialist playboy (read, wealthy aristocrat with a penchant for gadgetry) takes to solving crime by night? Top hat, cane, cape, and a mask like for a masked ball would do the job I think...
2 - reclusive rich man takes to hunting evildoers by night, disguised as a giant bat... hunting... at night... disguised as a bat... hunting at night as a bat... capes come into this one too, but in a much more sinister way: Victorian Batman is a Vampire who (tormented by his carnal lusts) only feeds on evildoers through a perverted sense of justice (and because he sees it as the only possibility of salvation).
Just some suggestions for you there - feel free to use or ignore as you see fit!
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@Van Helsing : How does he size up, you never know with clix since they're all over the place?
He's 35mm tall (so he's actually in scale with the Knight Models Batman Miniatures) but I'm going to try and lose a couple of MM of the legs and waist.
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What's that figure called, so I can try and find it on eBay?
What conversion LoL!
Rip this sucker of his base, clean him up, re-base, and paint - Done!
(http://www.trollandtoad.com/images/products/pictures/1012243.jpg)
Working on one at the moment!
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It seems like a lot of the concept drawings out on the web are basically just gentelmen figs with odd doodads added and such. The Spiderman with the goggles or Venom with a top hat, for example. I am thinking some heroclix conversions with regular steampunk/victorian figs may work for the heroes.
It really would be awesome if a figure company would do some original and/or "Not" Victorian superheroes. What do you think Prof? Something for the Lead Adventure range? I bet Ratnik could do some killer figs on the topic! :D
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Maybe one of the Warmachine Warcasters of the right look as an Iron Man, http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Chronoscope/latest/50165
or as Steel (from DC) http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/cygnar/warcasters/major-markus-siege-brisbane
or Warmachine or Iron Monger http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/khador/warcasters/karchev-the-terrible.
Kraven the Hunter http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/khador/solos/manhunter
Just a few suggestion off the top of my head.
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(http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/567/victoriansuperman.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/836/victoriansuperman.jpg/)
What about a Victorian Superman- There must be a figure suitable for this?
Image courtesy of
http://www.tencentticker.com/projectrooftop/2011/01/24/career-day-victorian-worlds-finest/
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Also...
from Reaper...
(http://imageshack.us/a/img213/6436/figurefinderimage3.jpg)
A Victorian Dr Doom?
(http://imageshack.us/a/img96/647/figurefinderimage.jpg)
A Victorian Iron Man or War Machine?
(http://imageshack.us/a/img832/6158/figurefinderimage2.jpg)
A Victorian Gambit?
And from Heresy...
(http://imageshack.us/a/img834/7787/undead004.jpg)
Man-bat
and...
(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/761/undead003.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/825/undead003.jpg/)
Bat-man (obviously with a different head- this figure also comes with a head with a top-hat and glasses- like Gary Oldman's Dracula which I think might work well if you wanted him to look very Victrorain and not too much like batman, alternatively, you could also go form a converted head with cowl.
What do you think?
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Someone already makes a Victorian not-Thing. Can't for the life of me remember who it is at the moment tho.
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(http://imageshack.us/a/img607/3994/880823473988.png)
Here he is- he's from Ironclad
(http://imageshack.us/a/img62/4064/094676273999.png)
they also do a Victorian Ironman
How about this one from LAF...
(http://imageshack.us/a/img19/831/vsf07.jpg)
The one on the left Victorian Cyborg (from Titans)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img853/7248/vsf12.jpg)
The man in the hat- A Victorian Sandman?
And finally! A Victorian batmobile...
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8311/gh00003.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/194/gh00003.jpg/)
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Ooooh. Love that Dr. Doom!
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What's that figure called, so I can try and find it on eBay?
Its a Streets of Gotham Marquee Figure Batman #100
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Just for inspiration, check those Action figures from Sillof out ;)
http://www.sillof.com/C-Gaslight.htm
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I also thought these would make a great base for a Green Lantern, Electro or Adam Strange conversion.
http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/cygnar/solos/stormsmiths
This as Black Widow
http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/mercenaries/solos/taryn-di-la-rovissi
Scarecrow or Ragdoll
http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/mercenaries/solos/ragman
https://wyrd-games.net/shop/images/P/p-16345.jpg
Aquaman
http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/mercenaries/solos/bloody-bradigan
Dr Octopus
https://wyrd-games.net/shop/images/P/p-16613.jpg
http://www.malifaux.com/FrontPage/Products/AvatarRamos_Display2.jpg
Moon Night
http://wyrd-games.net/shop/images/P/December-Acolyte-Display.jpg
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I like the suggestions for Doc Octopus and Moon Knight.
Those storm smiths would be good for the basis of lots of super heroes.
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What's the reaper Victorian Von Doom called?
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Old Pete
here's a link
http://www.reapermini.com/figurefinder#detail/59032
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Cheers boss :D
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Thank you!
Its a Streets of Gotham Marquee Figure Batman #100
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All the above are excellent suggestions! I have been going through my figure collection, and I think a lot of the work here could be done with a simple paint job for villains. For instance, I have a ton of Gangs of New York figures that--painted in sinister colors or with clown faces, could easily be Joker's crew. Joker? Victorian gentleman with white and green make up! Do a few head swaps with the heads from LAM steampunk range and viola! High tech criminals for any variety of villain to employ! This...could...work!
Now the question is, what rules to use? I really like EoTD, but I'm not sure how to write up "super-heroes" for it. I am thinking you could work off the Sherlock Holmes profile for Batman. Or maybe use a super hero minis game instead?
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I've only recently got a chance to look at EotD but I think that it's a pretty good fit for Batman anyway, never mind a Victorian one, as the power levels are quite low in Gotham. How it would work for the more 'super' of the hero community is another matter, but I like how many of the quirks of the rogues gallery without powers can be covered with Influences, like in the special character pdf.
One idea I had was for the Riddler to have a 'Riddle Me this' influence which allows his player to misdirect an opponent like with the Mesmerise Arcane Power.
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Someone said the Hulk, so I figure it's OK... Mr Hyde-type minis might be a good Hulk substitute, the whole 'scientist goes crazy and becomes a behomoth' thing is pretty much directly ripped from Jeckyll and Hyde.
Soon as I saw the title of this topic I thought 'League of Extraordinary Gentlemen'. The comic, by the way... and IMO that's got 'Victorian Hyde-Hulk' (http://thebooksmugglers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/LoEG.jpg) all sewn up...
It's a bit arbitrary, but I'd personally rather use the Seamus avatar as a basis for LXG Hyde than the Hulk. For a more direct VSF translation of the Hulk, I think I'd look to Reaper's clay golem (http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/golem/sku-down/02706). It's practically a Hulk dolly, ready for dressing. :)
https://wyrd-games.net/shop/images/P/p-16613.jpg
Since you bring him up, he's the master of my crew, and I'd planned to paint up said robotic crew in golds and reds...
But I think the Ramos avatar would do much better as Doc Ock with very little conversion. :o
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https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0iB71Ir9-2hje747uLxSqnosc3r2s0pgzT5vdYwexguDrXip-nQ
Figure A in the Federated States of America would make a great steampunk / victorian era Deadshot from DC.
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What about a couple of the Carnevale or Freebooters Fate Botherhood minis for people like Joker, Harley Quinn and Riddler?
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https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0iB71Ir9-2hje747uLxSqnosc3r2s0pgzT5vdYwexguDrXip-nQ
Figure A in the Federated States of America would make a great steampunk / victorian era Deadshot from DC.
Picture is tiny. What range are these?
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I've done a Hyde (Malifaux Seamus Avatar) and a Spring-heeled Jack ( Converted Reaper mini)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/pappa_midnight/MrHyde.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/pappa_midnight/SHJ_2.jpg)
I am always on the look out for more VSF Superheroes. That Rhino mini is a must!!!
PM
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Those are really nicely done, great work!
I was finishing up my Lycaon starter box for Empire of the Dead the other day, and the gf picked up one of the henchmen and said "Hey, is this Wolverine?" I hadn't really noticed it, but she was right. He's got the same hair style and mutton chops, the facial expression is a perfect fit, and he's holding the two-prong claw weapons in both hands. Unfortunately I think the only way to get that figure is in the starter box.
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Picture is tiny. What range are these?
Dystopian Legion ;)
http://minimusingofabear.wordpress.com/tag/dystopian-legion/
If you scroll down you'll find a bigger pic
Anyone knows a nice mini for Killer Croc?
Need one myself for my Supers Noir Project.
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I would think that given Croc's usual costume (torn rags and not much else), that any Croc clix would be adequate.
If you really wanted to do something different, I'd say something like a Creature from the Black Lagoon mini would suit quite well, even if not strictly Victorian.
The original Green Lantern could be an explorer with a magic lamp.
Hawkeye a Carnivale Circus Performer converted to carry a bow. He started in the circus after all.
Mockingbird the same as above, but female with a stick.
Nick Fury, Redcoat officer with eyepatch.
Bane, beefy VSF Prussian with converted mask.
I can keep going, I've got pages of these...
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I can keep going, I've got pages of these...
Like what I read so far!
Gracias,
Glenn
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There was one! Spring-Heeled Jack! Victorian superhero in comics back then!
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I think for the purpose of balanced and fun game play maybe Empire of the dead would work best. If you want the one super powered hero you could take a gentleman's club group and go crazy with the steam punk devices. In my opinion you can use the steam punk device rules but sculpt the figure dfferently. Say the powered exo suit rule applied to a Ben Grim Thing figure to cover his super strength.
Maybe a Douglas Mawson style arctic explorer for Captain Cold?
A Ghost Rider riding a steam powered Penny Farthing with flaming wheels?
An gent in a diving suit with the heavy diving bell style helmet painted all black as Black Manta?
A clockwork Robot as Ultron 5?
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The predeseser of the Ghostrider was a nother Ghostrider western gunslinger on a hell horse.
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Reaper do a nice clockwork robot.
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Aaarrrrr.... Must resist urge to buy new rule book ( EOTD)
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I know the predecessor of the current Ghost Rider was on a horse, and that would be a cool mini as well. But i was thinking of more along the lines of a VSF, hence the steam powered penny farthing. But both would work.
Maybe a boxer rebellion type of Shang Chi? With the pony tail?
A Modok that looks a little more like Frankenstein? Different body parts stitched together to form a giant head and put into a life steam powered support system?
Professor X in one of those old wicker 3 wheeled wheel chairs with a knee rug on?
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Wow--that Spring-heeled Jack is BRILLIANT! :-*
I've done a Hyde (Malifaux Seamus Avatar) and a Spring-heeled Jack ( Converted Reaper mini)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/pappa_midnight/MrHyde.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/pappa_midnight/SHJ_2.jpg)
I am always on the look out for more VSF Superheroes. That Rhino mini is a must!!!
PM
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I had a big chat with Benny last night about the idea of Victorian Superheroes, we cam up with a few ideas that I thought I'd share.
1. Why Victorian Superheroes? If I want to do Superhero gaming, there is ample opportunity to do so in a 'regular' Gold/Silver/Iron/Modern Age setting without the challenges associated with converting one genre to another. If I want to include my favorite characters in games of EOTD or Gaslight, then I can understand working on the one or two characters that I would want. If one were to be VSF/Gothic Horror/Colonial focused in their gaming and wanting to break into superheroes without having to get whole new rule-sets and terrain, there I can see a motivation. Maybe, just maybe, some of us excited by this idea are just suffering the usual wargamer "IT'S SHINY AND I WANT IT!" syndrome, which I understand.
2. Given the above, if I were to game Victorian Superheroes, I'd want it to be different to the Supers I already have and play. (Again Gaslight and EOTD fodder) This inclines me to present supers in a way that differs from their normal state. I know we're all gushing over Victorian Batman, but in game terms, how is he any different to Contemporary Batman? If I have a game in which Batman is fighting Two-Face and thugs, set in Victorian London, it may as well be that they were sucked there in a time warp then be Victorian doppelgangers for all the difference it makes.
To take a leaf out of the old TSR Marvel Superheroes RPG, supers can be divided into several broad categories:
Altered Human: (Spiderman, Captain America, Fantastic Four) A normal human who, though misadventure or experimentation has become something more than human.
Robot: (Rom, Ultron) A Robot, but can also be any kind of automaton or even artificial intelligence.
Mutant: (X-men) Born "Different" with powers inbuilt.
Magic: (Doctor Strange, Zatana) Human who learned to wield arcane forces.
Skilled Human: (Punisher, Batman) Human who trained to battle crime.
Alien: (Thor, Martian Manhunter) A creature with innate abilities born of its' race.
Tech: (Green Lantern, Iron Man) A human who uses technology to expand their abilities.
Now, as cool as it is to have Mutants, Magic users and Skill monkeys tearing it up in London in the 1880s, none of them are really going to change beyond the cosmetic, Batman will always strike from the shadows, Jean Grey will always be psychic and Doctor Strange will always be Sorcerer Supreme. That said, Tech, Alien and some Altered Humans give us a great deal of opportunity to do something different and with a true VSF/GH/19thC flavor to it.
For me, some great examples are the Marvel 2099/Noir series. Both of these present Marvel heroes in a different space of time. One of the best things about them is that they're willing to change everything. In neither is Spiderman Peter Parker, or even a teenager, even his powers are completely different. I think we can take this idea and do something more interesting than Batman with a lantern and rope. Take a look at a few of my ideas:
Martian Manhunter is a Thark who was transported to Earth in the same manner as John Carter was to Mars. He was a leader and lawmaker of his people and seeing the chaos of Earthmen, he decided to help them find their way to true justice.
Black Manta is a Colonial rebel seeking to make a new undersea nation for his people, free of the great powers. He uses his electrically-powered submersibles to wage war on his enemies.
Ringmaster is the head of an organised crime syndicate that his disguises as a circus. He is a master of misdirection and oration, he really knows how to "work" a crowd.
Ant Man is a sideshow worker who has an affinity for training insects. After discovering the Ringmaster's true nature, he vowed to use his arthropod friends to help right the Ringmaster's wrongs.
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I also have been thinking. What about Manbat with links to the Island of Dr Moreau? A former colleague that was altered by the experiments or maybe just a bat that ended up on the operating table?
Solomon Grundy is Frankenstein, Essentially they operate the same in terms of abilities and powers, so all you need to do is combine both back stories into the one and your good to go.
That being said i would love to see some weird VSF or steampunk gadgets and twists on the more mechanical heroes and villains.
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I like the idea of reinventing the heroes somewhat. No reason to just plop them down with a new costume. There's an an artist on deviant art who's done a Rockabilly alternate Batman universe where all the characters have different backgrounds. For instance, Bruce Wayne isn't a billionaire but rather owns a garage and works on drag racers. So maybe Victorian Batman could be a tinkering scientist, a stage magician, or an escape artist a la Houdini? Certainly most of the villains could be from a freak show! Food for thought...
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Westwind have just added a Victorian super hero type to the EOTD Kickstarter as per recent request for a Victorian Batman.
Scroll down the link and below and you can see him at the £62,000 pledge level.He is wearing a pair of mechanical bat wings and is wielding two pistols.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/832150598/empire-of-the-dead-requiem-0?ref=live
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Don't forget the Steam Knight!!!!
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Have you seen these:
(http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/578362_580597645286232_562358034_n.jpg)
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Thats what we were talking about lol
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Sorry if this is the wrong thread to ask the question but i cant find an answer anywhere else and this seems as involved with Empire of the Dead as any other.
Is the kick starter of empire of the dead reprinting the rulebook with new stuff added or is it the same rulebook? I am going to order the rulebook, just wondering if i order it now or wait for the kickstarter.
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Bendy,
The original rule book is not being reprinted. There is a PDF of the rules coming out after the has finished with all the new factions in.
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Looks like its rrp £15 normally but you can get it and a mini if you pledge £10
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Thanks, i will probably just get the book now. I will sign on to the kickstarter for the PDF version though.
A bit more thinking on the Victorian heroes thing got this into my head though.
Victorian London is getting terrorised by a villain the press have taken to calling Jolly Jack. Much like his name sake (Jack the Ripper) he stalks the poorer areas of London (in and around Whitechapel). Where he differs is he doesn't seem to only prey on ladies of the night, but instead no pattern to his choice of victim is evident. Where he gets the moniker of Jolly is all his victims are found with 2 cuts made carefully to the corners of the victims mouth giving them the appearance of smiling. As Scotland Yard investigates there chief suspect becomes famous industrialist and merchant Bruce Wayne.
Angry and frustrated by the incorrect accusations, first from Scotland Yard and now from the press as well Bruce decides to secretly mount his own investigation to clear his name. Deciding his best course of action is to capture the real Jolly Jack he begins training in Bartitsu, with weapons and increasing his own general physical fitness. Thinking that being seen in the area around Whitechapel (where the grisly crimes are occurring) would do his protests of innocence no good he decides he needs a disguise. As a boy he has always been fascinated by bats and now decides to dress as one figuring that the black of his cape will help him hide in the darkness and the terror he can instill will aid his investigations. Thus prepaired he ventures into the darkness or Whitchapel at night to apprehend Jolly Jack.
Meanwhile as part of Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show an American by the name of Floyd Lawton has earned the name The Dead Shot, The worlds Finest Marksman. Using the cover of the traveling wild west show he is secretly an assassin. Hiring his services out the Europe's wealthy and elite. At the moment his activities in Brittan have brought him to the attention of Chief investigator of Scotland Yard Harvard Dent QC.
One night while in Whitechapel investigating the assassinations of The Dead Shot man, Harvard is attacked and half his face is clawed asunder. When he is found and brought to medical attention all he can remember is that he was attacked by a giant bat. After limited face reconstruction surgery (limited by Victorian medicine) it is discovered the stress of it all was too much and he is placed on indefinite leave in the care of Jonathan Crane's Sanatorium. After a short while he is released with the public being told he is cured. This is far from the truth and he now seems fixated on the dual nature of his face and of human nature. Still believing he represents the law he is now known to stalk Whitechapel and surrounds dispensing justice with twin revolvers and the flip of a coin.
The attack on Harvard by a giant bat seems to fuel the legend that Bruce Wayne is creating around himself as he conducts his investigation. All but a select few who know the truth believe that it was the Batman that attacked Harvard. The truth is that after his island research facility burnt down Dr Moreau returned to London and now continues he experiments deep in the London sewers away from prying eyes. His latest experiments have moved on from pure vivisection and onto tissue and muscle grafting. The latest test came at the expense of his new assistant Kirk Langstrom, after a full night of pain and surgery a half man/half bat creature was completed. Before the proper conditioning could be performed by Dr Moreau, Kirk broke free of his cage and into the London night. Scared and disorientated by he recent experiences he was hiding on a roof top when he was disturbed by Harvard, in terror he clawed at Harvard's face then fled into the night.
I have some more to come with Mr Freeze, Solon Grundy and The Green Lantern (The Green Lamp) But i was wondering about any feedback. Trying to create a penny Dreadfull meets DC meets Boys own Adventure feel with lots of interconnected parts for all the different characters.
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Excellent stuff - similar enough to be recognisably 'Bat' but tweaked enough to fit the new setting :)
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Thanks, i will probably just get the book now. I will sign on to the kickstarter for the PDF version though.
A bit more thinking on the Victorian heroes thing got this into my head though.
Victorian London is getting terrorised by a villain the press have taken to calling Jolly Jack. Much like his name sake (Jack the Ripper) he stalks the poorer areas of London (in and around Whitechapel). Where he differs is he doesn't seem to only prey on ladies of the night, but instead no pattern to his choice of victim is evident. Where he gets the moniker of Jolly is all his victims are found with 2 cuts made carefully to the corners of the victims mouth giving them the appearance of smiling. As Scotland Yard investigates there chief suspect becomes famous industrialist and merchant Bruce Wayne.
Angry and frustrated by the incorrect accusations, first from Scotland Yard and now from the press as well Bruce decides to secretly mount his own investigation to clear his name. Deciding his best course of action is to capture the real Jolly Jack he begins training in Bartitsu, with weapons and increasing his own general physical fitness. Thinking that being seen in the area around Whitechapel (where the grisly crimes are occurring) would do his protests of innocence no good he decides he needs a disguise. As a boy he has always been fascinated by bats and now decides to dress as one figuring that the black of his cape will help him hide in the darkness and the terror he can instill will aid his investigations. Thus prepaired he ventures into the darkness or Whitchapel at night to apprehend Jolly Jack.
Meanwhile as part of Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show an American by the name of Floyd Lawton has earned the name The Dead Shot, The worlds Finest Marksman. Using the cover of the traveling wild west show he is secretly an assassin. Hiring his services out the Europe's wealthy and elite. At the moment his activities in Brittan have brought him to the attention of Chief investigator of Scotland Yard Harvard Dent QC.
One night while in Whitechapel investigating the assassinations of The Dead Shot man, Harvard is attacked and half his face is clawed asunder. When he is found and brought to medical attention all he can remember is that he was attacked by a giant bat. After limited face reconstruction surgery (limited by Victorian medicine) it is discovered the stress of it all was too much and he is placed on indefinite leave in the care of Jonathan Crane's Sanatorium. After a short while he is released with the public being told he is cured. This is far from the truth and he now seems fixated on the dual nature of his face and of human nature. Still believing he represents the law he is now known to stalk Whitechapel and surrounds dispensing justice with twin revolvers and the flip of a coin.
The attack on Harvard by a giant bat seems to fuel the legend that Bruce Wayne is creating around himself as he conducts his investigation. All but a select few who know the truth believe that it was the Batman that attacked Harvard. The truth is that after his island research facility burnt down Dr Moreau returned to London and now continues he experiments deep in the London sewers away from prying eyes. His latest experiments have moved on from pure vivisection and onto tissue and muscle grafting. The latest test came at the expense of his new assistant Kirk Langstrom, after a full night of pain and surgery a half man/half bat creature was completed. Before the proper conditioning could be performed by Dr Moreau, Kirk broke free of his cage and into the London night. Scared and disorientated by he recent experiences he was hiding on a roof top when he was disturbed by Harvard, in terror he clawed at Harvard's face then fled into the night.
I have some more to come with Mr Freeze, Solon Grundy and The Green Lantern (The Green Lamp) But i was wondering about any feedback. Trying to create a penny Dreadfull meets DC meets Boys own Adventure feel with lots of interconnected parts for a
I love it- I feel inspired!
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Cool stuff Benny, I'd like to see & play them all!
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Cool background! Now all we need is figures for them all ;)
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Benny's ideas got me thinking after our Pathfinder session last night, I do like the Victorian hero idea, I just want to do something different to the many heroes I already have with it. Before bed, I was reading the prose narrative "Alan and the Sundered Veil" at the back of the first volume of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. In this story, Alan Quartermain teams up with John Carter, Randolf Carter (from the Lovecraft stories) and the Time Traveler (from The Time Machine) against an invasion of things from "outside of time", which are revealed to be Mi-Go and Shoggoths.
I thought to myself; "Time travel, alien invasion, family and friends thrown together by circumstance? There's your Victorian Fantastic Four right there."
Yes, I am a fan of Reed, Sue, Ben and Johnny (and Peter and Jenifer and Crystal and Lyja and all the others), but to me the FF are so very tied into the Silver Age of comics, I didn't actually like their appearance in 1602.
So, while Benny works on his Bat people, I may look into a couple of Carters and painting my Mansions of Madness pieces.
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Looking at a slight change for Harvard Dent. Taking the advice of Dr Crane to heart and his family having some standing in London Harvard is actually reinstated at his job at Scotland Yard. With the lack of internal affairs in Victorian police forces and the fact that for the most part his peculiar brad of justice is making a difference in the worst parts of old blighty like Limehouse and Whitechapel he is managing to keep his job for now.
That allows me to assign him to the police faction of the new Empire of the dead force as a special Character.
Jolly Jack just uses the rules for Jack the Ripper.
The Man-Bat uses a statline of a Vampire Consort but no access to weapons only having 2 sets of claws. But he does get the ability of flight. I am thinking on night missions he can turn up and generally complicate things. No alliance to one side or the other and also repelled by figures carrying lamps or lanterns.
Batman, i am open to suggestions on how to incorporate him into the game as a playable character/faction. I dont want some games to just be Batman and Jolly Jack running around the table, i am open for suggestions on how to get those 2 into factions. They dont have to be large factions but i would like a miniatures game with more than 2 figures on the table.
Also, with the turn that Harvard (Ha'peeny Dent behind his back, as that's the coin he flips) has taken, Batman feels to some extent obliged to fix the problem. Dent was an old friend and Bruce cant stand the sight of him abusing his power and ruining he family's reputation. It seems the harder Bruce tries to solve London's woes the further into its seedy underbelly he is pulled.
Bruce Wayne is a chief suspect as he has been seen in and around Whitechapel numerous times and one time was found standing over the body of one of the victims.
What most people dont know is that he has been in negotiations with parliament to assist in the urban redevelopment of the East End Rookeries (The wikipedia entry on Rookeries should give most folks and idea on where i am heading with this) and was inspecting it for his own satisfaction. And once, upon hearing a cry and moving to investigate was the first to stumble upon a victim, only to be found by a local Peeler no more than a few moments later.
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Also just to add more fat to the fire.
After failing to capture his experiment in the cold Arctic Victor Frankenstein relocates to London to continue his science studies. It is here he is approached by the Gold family to bring there beloved son Cyrus back to life. Seeing this as a chance to repair some of the damage from his past experiment and reunite a family torn asunder he agrees to help. After resurrecting Cyrus Gold Dr Frankenstein finds the experiments did not go the same as those previous with his monster. The time spend in the family's mausoleum unprotected from the atmosphere has affected Cyrus, his body has swollen to a huge brute of a man, but the brain is another matter. All he seems to be able to recite or remember now is the child's nursery rhyme "Solomon Grundy". Indeed after many months of teaching and experimentation Frankenstein concludes the experiment to be a failure. At this point he moves to kill Cyrus for a second time, realising what is about to transpire Cyrus attacks and wounds Dr Frankenstein before escaping into the night. Now free Cyrus roams London at night where he continues to moan the rhyme of Solomon Grundy. So much so that those that see him have taken to calling the hulking brute that stalks London's foggy nights Solomon Grundy.
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When I started reading about Frankenstein's exploits in the Arctic, I was expecting to read the origins of Victor von Freeze :-)
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May want to check these out, they are 35mm I think but they have some crazy stuff...
http://www.smartmaxstore.com/smog-a-victorian-fantasy.htm
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May want to check these out, they are 35mm I think but they have some crazy stuff...
http://www.smartmaxstore.com/smog-a-victorian-fantasy.htm
They are not 35mm, but 1/35th, so more like 50/54mm scale.
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You realize now that we're somehow going to have to fund miniatures for your entire back story, right? ;)
PS: Those Smog figs are brilliant!
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I had a couple minis I converted for an article I did for Digital Hero way back in the day (War of the Worlds: Champions, issue 39)
Britannic:
(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm270/proditorcappela/britannic1-1.jpg)
(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm270/proditorcappela/britannic2-1.jpg)
Donnybrook:
(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm270/proditorcappela/donnybrook.jpg)
(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm270/proditorcappela/MVC-009S.jpg)
I never got around to finishing up the other two: Stella Stovepipe and Nike.
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Well, i have Finished Harvard Ha'penny Dent and working on some bobbies to go with him (photos soon) Also dont Victor Freeze and have a reason for him in the setting too.
Also done a conversion of Bats thats waiting for paint too. When i get some photos done i will be starting my own thread on here for all to see.
Also, Smart Max are damn cool, just too damn big :(
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I usually post in VSF but Victorian Superheroes caught my eye. This is Captain Crimson, spoiled aristocrat by day crime fighting vigilante by night. It's probably easier to be a caped crusader in a time period when people actually wore capes. I've included a photo of the Captain in hot pursuit of his nemesis Baron Terra. The Captain is from Ironclad Miniatures and the Baron is from Warmachine.
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My second candidate for a Victorian Superhero is the Jade Man. The Martian invasion brought more than Tripods and death rays. J'onn J'onnz stowed away on Martian Cylinders that came to Earth to escape the devastation wrought on his people by the Cephalopods. Adopting Earth as his home J'onn uses his powers to protect the Earthlings, often from the misuse of the Martian technology left over from the War. Included is a photo of the Jade Man in combat with Prof. Payne's Steam Behemoth. The Jade Man is a Shadowrun vampire from Grenadier Miniatures. The figure has been sitting in my lead pile since the 90s. The Behemoth is a MageKnight lightening Golem.
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Top marks on J'onn J'onnz- that is a great figure to use- perfect as a Victorian super hero
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A Ghost Rider riding a steam powered Penny Farthing with flaming wheels?
This one sounds interesting!
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got my Gentlemen Bat painted,lovely Fig :D :-*
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad244/Falkenhayn/Supers/2014001.jpg) (http://s940.photobucket.com/user/Falkenhayn/media/Supers/2014001.jpg.html)
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad244/Falkenhayn/Supers/2014002.jpg) (http://s940.photobucket.com/user/Falkenhayn/media/Supers/2014002.jpg.html)
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Lovely brushmanship as always Dan, but what is this worrying fetish you have with bases? Each one taller and more mighty than the last!
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A+ stuff!
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Nice work!
My VSF batman just came today!
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I had a similar idea- and I never did manage to find that many figures, but I thought that these Bushwackers made great thugs and henchmen!
http://www.brigadegames.com/Bushwackers-I-5_p_292.html
I only just read this thread but rude word me! those are very useful figures.
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Fantastic job on the Gentleman Bat :-* :-* 8) 8) :-*
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Nicely painted and displayed, who makes the figure?
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Nicely painted and displayed, who makes the figure?
Ah! remember the thread now ::)
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Gee, everyone got a Batman figure but the guy who did the original post ::)
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Gee, everyone got a Batman figure but the guy who did the original post ::)
I got mine yesterday >:D :D
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This thread inspires me to work on an SS4 Victorian supplement! A dedicated line of Victorian supers would also be very cool!
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Lovely brushmanship as always Dan, but what is this worrying fetish you have with bases? Each one taller and more mighty than the last!
lol lol lol Cheers Rob,all Part of my World Domination Plans :)
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad244/Falkenhayn/25mm%20Sci-fi/Stargrunt022.jpg) (http://s940.photobucket.com/user/Falkenhayn/media/25mm%20Sci-fi/Stargrunt022.jpg.html)
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Damn that's a nice version of Shifter! He looks positively kingly!
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This thread inspires me to work on an SS4 Victorian supplement! A dedicated line of Victorian supers would also be very cool!
It might be interesting to take well known Victorian/VSF figures and palce them in the archetypes just for discussion - on another thread of course...
Gracias,
Glenn
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Not a bad idea Conquistador, I did something along those lines on my blog a little back: http://leadcapes.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/team-ideas-victorian-justice-league.html (http://leadcapes.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/team-ideas-victorian-justice-league.html)
Victorian Lit into VSF JLA.
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Not a bad idea Conquistador, I did something along those lines on my blog a little back: http://leadcapes.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/team-ideas-victorian-justice-league.html (http://leadcapes.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/team-ideas-victorian-justice-league.html)
Victorian Lit into VSF JLA.
Darn, that is a great adaptation!
And Zorro of course is the icing on the cake for me so bonus points!
Gracias,
Glenn
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Bit of minor threadomancy, but I'm working on a Super-powered EOTD narrative scenario, will keep you guys updated.
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Bit of minor threadomancy, but I'm working on a Super-powered EOTD narrative scenario, will keep you guys updated.
Please do!
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What's that figure called, so I can try and find it on eBay?
Didn't see the answer to this, but that Batman is the Marquee figure from the Heroclix Streets of Gotham Set. #100.
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Got started today, here's a teaser:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tFRTbLYLZxY/U4ffbTeB0ZI/AAAAAAAACAI/mEKidM6x_5Y/w958-h539-no/DSC01199.JPG)
The rest is on my blog (link in signature), but I'll update a little here too.