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Title: Suggestions for Renaissance skirmish rules?
Post by: Jase on March 01, 2013, 09:40:20 AM
Hello,

Inspired by the TAG Kickstarter (and their other Renaissance miniatures) I'm looking for a skirmish rules set that allows you to play with about 10 to 20 models per side (both mounted and dismounted), but also allows you to play with several different factions (Ottomans, Polish, English, Italian etc.).

I was thinking of writing a Mordheim mod, but if there are rules already available, that would save me a lot of time :)

Preferably, there are also some kind of campaign rules included.

Who knows of something that fits the bill?

Cheers
Jase
Title: Re: Suggestions for Renaissance skirmish rules?
Post by: redzed on March 01, 2013, 09:54:44 AM
Smooth And Rifled (http://www.dadiepiombo.com/smooth.html)  by Dadi & Piombo,  there's a blog/info site HERE
 (http://smooth-and-rifled.blogspot.co.uk/). Scroll down and there's an ECW add-on.
Haven't tried them myself yet.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Renaissance skirmish rules?
Post by: whiskey priest on March 01, 2013, 10:17:27 AM
There is this group who used a modified version of lord of the rings/legends of the old west
http://www.spiritofthegame.org.uk/1588andallthat/about.htm
I was thinking of adapting Sharpe Practice myself and if it works going through the Lardies scheme for playtesting and releasing rulesets. Bit in the future though.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Renaissance skirmish rules?
Post by: Onebigriver on March 01, 2013, 10:31:54 AM
http://perfectcaptain.50megs.com/SpanishMain.html
Title: Re: Suggestions for Renaissance skirmish rules?
Post by: redzed on March 01, 2013, 12:44:13 PM
yeah, Sharp Practise would be a good one :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Renaissance skirmish rules?
Post by: charla51 on March 01, 2013, 09:22:23 PM
Try "Witchfinder General": set circa ECW, and although it has a supernatural component, the basic rules are a very sound set for skirmish and can accomodate up to 40 - 60 figures per side. I say this having played a couple of dozen games with them over the last year.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Renaissance skirmish rules?
Post by: Jase on March 04, 2013, 08:23:11 AM
Thanks for the replies!

A friend of mine got the Sharpe Practise rules, so I will look into that.

Those Spanish General Rules look very promising also :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Renaissance skirmish rules?
Post by: Glitzer on March 04, 2013, 09:03:07 AM
I'm still wondering if "Have pike will travel" is a good game for that aera. Unfortunately I know no one who owns a copy of it.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Renaissance skirmish rules?
Post by: Aaron on March 05, 2013, 01:20:10 PM
I LOVE Sharp Practice, but it won'r really work with 10-20 models per side. I thought Smooth and Rifled called for more figures also, but I could be wrong on that. I think you might be better off starting with one of Ganesha Games "Song of..." rules sets or Rattrap's Gloire or your Mordheim suggestion.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Renaissance skirmish rules?
Post by: Anatoli on March 05, 2013, 02:03:38 PM
Try Brink of Battle, it's not period specific but has enough rules, profiles and period grades to make it work with anything historical from Ancients to Modern. It's single model alternate activation and most often has 6-20 models per side depending on what kind of force you are playing.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Renaissance skirmish rules?
Post by: itchy on March 05, 2013, 04:31:15 PM
second witchfinder general , done" historical " ECw games with as few as 10 figures a side and as many as 30 (infantry and cav ) plus of course loads of games with witches  >:D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Renaissance skirmish rules?
Post by: dm on March 05, 2013, 09:16:56 PM
If you can find a set anywhere of the old rule set 'Once Upon a Time in the West Country' they are still worth a look. They have allowed me to play some great skirmish games over the years and even though they were created for the Thirty Years War and ECW they could be used for periods before and after the mid 17th Century with a few tiny tweeks here and there. :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Renaissance skirmish rules?
Post by: Franz_Josef on March 06, 2013, 01:52:48 AM
Also take a look at Hot Trod and Red Hand.  Designed for 16th Century Anglo-Scottish Border Reivers, but with a little tinkering could easily be used for many other campaigns.  (And contrary to many renaisassance skirmish rules, pikes can't really skirmish!  Too long a weapon, and too easy to get around, in one-on-one combat.  Pikemen have to operate in large bodies.  If going into skirmish type situations, they would use their side swords, or a cut-down "half-pike" - effectively a spear.  Likewise, fully armored knights on barded warhorses make terrible skirmishers - that's what the lighter horse are for) 
www.rebelpublishing.net/resources/Hot_Trod_Free_Rules.pdf
Title: Re: Suggestions for Renaissance skirmish rules?
Post by: sentepid on March 16, 2013, 09:06:25 AM
I'd suggest Flashing Steel out of Ganesha Games. It's designed to be a single man skirmish up to 15 a side and is specifically geared for cinematic swashbuckling Three Musketeers action. Simple system - easy play. And it has a campaign and game generator.