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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: Tarty on April 01, 2013, 03:39:01 AM

Title: Late Roman Light Cavalry
Post by: Tarty on April 01, 2013, 03:39:01 AM
Two units finished off over Easter, getting close to having this army on the table soon  8)
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6171/img0654iw.jpg)
http://tartys.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/late-roman-light-cavalry.html (http://tartys.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/late-roman-light-cavalry.html)
Title: Re: Late Roman Light Cavalry
Post by: OSHIROmodels on April 01, 2013, 07:09:45 AM
Very nice  :-*

cheers

James
Title: Re: Late Roman Light Cavalry
Post by: Blackwolf on April 01, 2013, 07:20:53 AM
Nice work mate :)
Title: Re: Late Roman Light Cavalry
Post by: former user on April 01, 2013, 07:33:31 AM
Oh, what a nice take on that topic and beautifully painted - congratulations!


However, I am just fighting against a serious attack of uniformitis....
Sorry, not Your fault, You did not make the miniatures.
the use of the Niederbieber type helmet in this "late roman" context is so wrong in many ways....
first of all, one can not combine it with the "Spangenhelm" type, which is the truely late roman one;
then, the old interpretation of the Niedebieber type as cavalry helmet is very much disputed, with sound arguments;
and last but not least it is clearly the helmet of a heavily armoured soldier that would make very little sense if the rest of the body protection is a cloth tunic and a shield. The late roman military doctrine went - heavily armoured cavalry and lightly armoured infantry..

Sorry again, no intention to criticize Your paintjob, just the "tag" of the miniatures, which are nicely sculpted btw
Title: Re: Late Roman Light Cavalry
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on April 01, 2013, 09:10:30 AM
What a great addition to your army – which's already an impressive sight. Well done!
Do the models come with quivers? They are a nice touch, anyway.

Personally, I like the mixed gear. But then again I don't think evidence allows us to make any clear cuts of what equipment was worn/carried by whom at any particular time and place. My POV, of course. :)
Title: Re: Late Roman Light Cavalry
Post by: Tarty on April 01, 2013, 09:42:03 AM
Oh, what a nice take on that topic and beautifully painted - congratulations!


However, I am just fighting against a serious attack of uniformitis....
Sorry, not Your fault, You did not make the miniatures.
the use of the Niederbieber type helmet in this "late roman" context is so wrong in many ways....
first of all, one can not combine it with the "Spangenhelm" type, which is the truely late roman one;
then, the old interpretation of the Niedebieber type as cavalry helmet is very much disputed, with sound arguments;
and last but not least it is clearly the helmet of a heavily armoured soldier that would make very little sense if the rest of the body protection is a cloth tunic and a shield. The late roman military doctrine went - heavily armoured cavalry and lightly armoured infantry..

Sorry again, no intention to criticize Your paintjob, just the "tag" of the miniatures, which are nicely sculpted btw
I hear you former user and all good points, Cheers. I do like the mix of gear in this range however as Mad Doc Morris has already pointed out, I think it's meant to be a bit of a cross over. I don't know how accurate it is but I fell in love with it so much it made me spend my hard earnt dosh  :P.......I probably wouldn't have got into Lateish Romans if it wasn't for this one factor alone  lol.....we're all nuts.
Oh and yes the figs come with quivers.
Title: Re: Late Roman Light Cavalry
Post by: former user on April 01, 2013, 10:13:50 AM
I did not want to comment on Your choice of taste sorry.

if You like them like this it's as fine as everything. They surely look good and are excellently painted.
I only wanted to give some professional advice


PS
(evidence allows us to make any clear cuts )
Yes it does, and it is called archaeology. Though I will admit that it does not always work, but in this case it does....
Title: Re: Late Roman Light Cavalry
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on April 01, 2013, 11:16:41 AM
I only wanted to give some professional advice
PS
(evidence allows us to make any clear cuts )
Yes it does, and it is called archaeology. Though I will admit that it does not always work, but in this case it does....

Speaking as a 'professional' here as well I'd say: Let's not go there. ;)

Back to tarty's excellent paint-job.
Title: Re: Late Roman Light Cavalry
Post by: former user on April 01, 2013, 12:18:47 PM
Speaking as a 'professional' here as well I'd say: Let's not go there. ;)

well then dear colleague, the only debatable issue here could be the definition of "late Roman"  ;)
or we could get really groundbreaking and revise the whole concept of typology, relative chronology and scientific dating.

Maybe we could publish a paper on that what do you think!  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Late Roman Light Cavalry
Post by: former user on April 01, 2013, 08:52:59 PM
Kudos @Tarty

You've got an amazing blog !
Title: Re: Late Roman Light Cavalry
Post by: Tarty on April 01, 2013, 11:30:43 PM
Thanks former user....I never thought I was the kind of person to get into running my own blog, but it is quiet good fun. Cheers !
Title: Re: Late Roman Light Cavalry
Post by: Painting Princess on April 02, 2013, 09:47:52 PM
They look great! Nice pics on the blog too ;)