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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: Jase on April 27, 2013, 08:45:08 AM

Title: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: Jase on April 27, 2013, 08:45:08 AM
Heya,

Inspired by 6milphil's thread (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=50291.0), I decided to build a ludus of my own. I wanted to do this just in time for Salute, so that my friends and I could play a game of gladiatorial combat in the pub after a long day at Salute.

Believe it or not, the most difficult part of the entire project was to find a tin. For some reason, these are impossible to find in the Netherlands. Eventually, I found one at Schiphol (our national airport) in a tourist gift shop. This explains the god-awful exterior of the tin, definitely aimed at tourists looking for something typically Dutch...:

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/JanSenten1982/Ludus001_zps2c467ae9.jpg)

Anyhow, service from em4 was topnotch, very rapid delivery and Doug added the plastic tiddlywinks as well :) A quick order at Warbases.co.uk provided me with enough hexes to pave my tin. All in all, it took me about a week or two to assemble everything as life tended to interfere regularly. Luckily, it was finished in time for Salute.

Everything fits in the tin:

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/JanSenten1982/Ludus003_zps08bf3f27.jpg)

First game, we're all very tired :P This game plays really well with pints of beer. By the way, they are enjoying the game, even though it may not look that way ;)

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/JanSenten1982/Ludus006_zps82a42d75.jpg)

Closeup of the arena itself, there is a door on the other wall, which is not visible here. Perhaps, I'll add splashes of blood later, but for now it works well as is:

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/JanSenten1982/Ludus005_zps162369e1.jpg)

Cheers
Jase
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: Andym on April 27, 2013, 08:59:55 AM
Fantastic idea and well executed!! :-* :-* :-*

"......in a Tin" should be copyrighted!! ;) Think of all the possibilities!
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: Malamute on April 27, 2013, 09:25:33 AM
Excellent, it looks great. :)
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: Elk101 on April 27, 2013, 10:05:36 AM
That looks brilliant! I like the fact that the tin hasn't been changed on the outside, it's like a top secret wargames gadget.
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on April 27, 2013, 10:25:52 AM
Brilliant. The idea of having games in a tin grows on me. :)
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: YPU on April 27, 2013, 10:30:22 AM
Brilliant. The idea of having games in a tin grows on me. :)

Aye, rekindles an old idea of mine to make a "in a tin" game with germies micro 2mm sci-fi stuff from GZG. Not sure what rules I could use for this but am adamant the weapon stats should have names like "kapow"  and "Zzzzap"
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: marianas_gamer on April 27, 2013, 10:41:53 AM
Love it! Reminds a bit of the great Steve Jackson games such as Ogre that came out in small pouches in the 80s and were so portable.  Mind you, this is several steps up in quality!  If you ever make it to Guam please bring this along.  I'll buy the beer!
LB
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: Johan on April 27, 2013, 11:04:36 AM
If one wants to go a bit bigger : wargame in a suitcase.
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: Mason on April 27, 2013, 12:11:47 PM
Great result, Jase.
It looks great!
 :-*



If one wants to go a bit bigger : wargame in a suitcase.

I think that is what Sterling Moose did at Salute:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=52969.msg626914#msg626914


 ;)

Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: Hussar072 on April 28, 2013, 12:08:08 AM
You sir are a genius!
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: Jase on April 28, 2013, 06:23:34 AM
Thanks for all the positive comments :)
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on April 28, 2013, 10:36:21 AM
Brilliant. The idea of having games in a tin grows on me. :)

On me, too. That has some appeal for sure.
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: The Dozing Dragon on April 28, 2013, 10:50:54 AM
Great stuff. I have to ask though whether or not you did anything with the picture on the lid???  ;)
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: Sterling Moose on May 02, 2013, 12:00:57 AM
Great job!! Now to cover those tulips and windmills on the tin with a suitable gladiatorial mosaic.   :D
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: Saragarhi on May 02, 2013, 04:36:08 AM
Brilliant!

I really like the idea of a complete and playable game that can be easily stored, transported and is instantly ready to play. I can also see a lot of potential for a similar lined tin or wooden box being useful scenery for other skirmish games set in a confined space.
 
Maybe for the Eureka Miniatures "And One For All" Three Musketeers rules or maybe something with Brigadier Gerard and a few friends fighting their way out of a tavern cellar or dungeon somewhere.

Can you give some tips on construction?

Did you glue the hexes and wall pieces directly to the sides of the tin or use something else as a lining?
What are the walls made of?
Is the stone texture just glue and sand?

Cheers,
Andy
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: Jase on May 02, 2013, 08:03:11 AM
@The Dozing Dragon: The picture on the lid is exactly as I found it. Some folks at a Dutch wargame forum suggested I use this tin for my next project to celebrate our new king:

(http://imageshack.us/a/img842/63/koekblik.png)

Not quite sure if I want to do that though ;)

@Saragarhi: I'll look into those Musketeer rules, sounds like a very interesting project. I was thinking about a 15mm game using Khurasan's Walking Dead or GZG's Firefly miniatures. I have not yet decided, though.

Construction was relatively straightforward. I used foamboard to make the walls. The stone texture was made by using pens and pencils. First, I used a pen to draw the stone tiles themselves, then I used a soft pencil (HB) to carefully apply texture. Styrodur is a far better material for this technique, as foamboard is just a bit too soft to hold the texture properly, but I had foamboard laying about, so that's what I used. After painting them, I glued them to the sides of the tin with PVA glue. The hexes were flocked before I glued them to the tin (again with PVA glue). The four wooden poles in the corners are there to hide the fact that the walls do not fit perfectly.

I hope this helps.

Cheers
Jase
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: Driscoles on May 02, 2013, 08:10:59 PM
I love this !
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: Saragarhi on May 02, 2013, 09:50:10 PM
Jase,
Thanks for the details. Sounds like a much simpler and more sensible solution than I had imagined (I'd assumed you'd used individual "bricks" to build the wall.

I was thinking of something like a single room interior from Vivotniks musketeer terrain thread here:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=1202.0

Unfortunately I'm lazy, and much less talented than he is!
Cheers,
Andy
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: Vern on May 03, 2013, 07:53:13 PM
Fantastic idea, it looks great!
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: nervisfr on May 07, 2013, 05:31:28 PM
i have used this same idea for a sumo game, in the 90's.
But the game aera was on the top of the box.

I think we 'll need a new section in the forum, i think There is a lot of people interested right here..... :-*
 
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: Za Zjurman on May 07, 2013, 07:22:51 PM
@The Dozing Dragon: The picture on the lid is exactly as I found it. Some folks at a Dutch wargame forum suggested I use this tin for my next project to celebrate our new king:

(http://imageshack.us/a/img842/63/koekblik.png)


I bought this tin actually for the same purpose  lol, making an arena and play the gladiator game by em4 miniatures. Nice executed tin you made Jase.

Regards,
Za
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: Jase on May 07, 2013, 08:07:27 PM
That's awesome!!!

You've seen mine, now show me yours  ;D

@Nervisfr: Indeed, we should join up with the PAPPIS people and their boxes!
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: Za Zjurman on May 07, 2013, 09:44:45 PM
  ::) Made a small mistake, it is slightly different tin sold in by Albert Heijn (a major grocery store in the Netherlands) which I bought.

(http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s390/zju/Ludus%20in%20a%20tin/000927188_004_Royal-tin-Albert-Heijn-high-res_zps46d2471e.jpg)

I just ordered the game from EM4

Regards,
Za

Off course I won't change the outside of the tin... It's just to beautiful  lol
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: nervisfr on May 11, 2013, 07:30:59 PM
i have used this same idea for a sumo game, in the 90's.
But the game aera was on the top of the box.

I think we 'll need a new section in the forum, i think There is a lot of people interested right here..... :-*
 

today, i found my sumo box  lol

The game in process

(http://imageshack.us/a/img62/2034/box1sk.jpg)

The box was use for transport and stock the game items (figurines, dice, card and the homemade rule)....

(http://imageshack.us/a/img845/4715/box2g.jpg)
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: Jase on May 11, 2013, 08:22:07 PM
That's great!  :-* :-* :-*

Where did you get those miniatures? Consider this idea stolen! Although I'll probably not make it on top of the tin, but inside it.

Can you send me your rules as well?
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: aggro84 on May 12, 2013, 02:12:33 AM
Very cool ideas!
 :-*
I must do the same someday!
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: nervisfr on May 14, 2013, 05:45:12 AM
That's great!  :-* :-* :-*

Where did you get those miniatures? Consider this idea stolen! Although I'll probably not make it on top of the tin, but inside it.

Can you send me your rules as well?

The sumo are from Dixon. I'll try to found the rules in my pile of books (i just move on for a new house and i have a tonne of packages to open ), but they are in french......

Eric
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: Jase on May 14, 2013, 05:00:47 PM
Hi Eric,

No rush, but it would be grand if you would be able to do that. French is not really a problem :)

Cheers
Jase
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: 6milPhil on May 14, 2013, 05:31:33 PM
Nice one Kerel!

I've only just seen this, but it's a cracker. Perhaps next year we could have a meet-up of everyone with a game in a tin. There's always a spare table or two, we could nab one of those. Captain Stinky is deadly at this, I'd like to see someone beat him...  :)
Title: Re: Ludus in a Tin, the Dutch version :P
Post by: nervisfr on May 15, 2013, 10:24:52 AM
Hi Eric,

No rush, but it would be grand if you would be able to do that. French is not really a problem :)

Cheers
Jase

The rules are ready for download , right here  :P :

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?h531mc2g9q3mk7k (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?h531mc2g9q3mk7k)

enjoy (for the french speaking ones), sorry for the others... :'(