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Miniatures Adventure => Fantasy Adventures => Topic started by: Jevenkah on May 28, 2013, 05:14:47 PM
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Teshub and I, after 3 weeks of building and painting, got to play Fantasy Warriors for the first time this weekend! We had so much fun, we played one scenario Saturday night, one Sunday afternoon, and two that night!
The first battle is detailed more in depth on the blog, with more pics: http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/fantasy-warriors/first-fantasy-warriors-weekend/
Here are some shots of the first battle, a basic orc-against-human deathmatch. I was the Gautrian (human) faction, Teshub played as the orcs.
(http://swordandsorcery99.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/positions_0011.jpg)
I need a better ruler.
(http://swordandsorcery99.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/gameon_002.jpg)
Because I measured wrong and got my cavalry slaughtered.
(http://swordandsorcery99.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/cavalrycarnage1.jpg)
The orcs managed to rout me and win the field.
(http://swordandsorcery99.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/urogtriumphant.jpg)
It was an absolute blast! I'll be putting up more pix from the weekend, on the blog too so check there as well:
http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/fantasy-warriors/ will keep all the related info organized.
Comments? Critiques? Taunts in orcish? Feel free!
Jevenkah
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Excellent batrep on the blog :D :D Your husbands urogs did do some serious damage to your humans I see. I noticed your casualty markers and really like them as you don't skimp on the quality of the paint job :D :D
In hindsight you should have added a wager to the game-winner does dishes :D :D
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A really fantastic looking game, with great minis, terrain and story telling.
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GREAT BATTLE REPORTS, PHOTOS, & MINIS! They really are a joy to read, see, & drool over...as a Old Guy drooling is a specialty.
I see the Orcs fell for your "lulling-them-into-a-false-sense-of-security" ploy...WELL DONE!
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Looks like a great game and you've got some nicely painted models there. Look forward to seeing more.
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The shots are great, they transmit you the full battle scale sensation.
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Thanks for all the positve energy everyone! I'm soaking it up especially since it's a cloudy, rainy day here.
The shots are great, they transmit you the full battle scale sensation.
Thanks, I was actually a bit afraid when we started that the table would be too big for my camera to capture the action. I'm glad that doesn't seem to be the case.
Looks like a great game and you've got some nicely painted models there. Look forward to seeing more.
That's quite a complement, stone-cold-lead, as I've been knocked out by your paintings. I will bring some more action here to this thread soon. We had one of those fantastic weekends where we got lost in gaming and I'm still catching up on the RL stuff I flat-out ignored over the holiday! 8)
GREAT BATTLE REPORTS, PHOTOS, & MINIS! They really are a joy to read, see, & drool over...as a Old Guy drooling is a specialty.
I see the Orcs fell for your "lulling-them-into-a-false-sense-of-security" ploy...WELL DONE!
Your comments always make me smile, DeafNala! I enjoying being able to create these things that way more folks than I ever pictured are viewing. btw- if the drooling gets too much, put a towel over your keyboard. I'd hate to think I was responsible for damaging your equiptment.
A really fantastic looking game, with great minis, terrain and story telling.
Thanks dijit, your constructions, terrain and minis are inspiring as well. I love the forest you did a couple years back. (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=33340.15 pg 2 check it out!) I could very easily follow your directions to mimic it one day.
I noticed your casualty markers and really like them as you don't skimp on the quality of the paint job :D :D
The dead deserve dignity too. The casualties get tons of attention when we play. It seems much more satisfying to place a crumpled up orc on the ground than simply knocking him over. This practice started when we received 3 sets of the same orcs and had to do something a little different with a few several of them. It is a little harder to take brand new figures and mess 'em up.
In hindsight you should have added a wager to the game...
Who says we didn't? ;)
Thanks all for the compliments on the storytelling as well. For myself, I need a good read with a report. And my grandmother's sister was a storyteller so I'd like to think there's something in the genes. (They were first-generation Italian-American and Aunt Goody always enjoyed telling us the creepy stories with walking dead/ghosts/great stuff like that to hear when I was about 6.)
I'll be getting some more of the scenarios we ran this weekend up soon, hopefully I won't keep you all waiting too long!
Jevenkah
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I agree completely with the necessity for casualty markers. Particularly in wargames. Without them, we forget the cost of war and we also lose realism if they are neglected. In RPG's do you ever have Common Folk? It could be fun to have an Orc farmer and his family on a huge game board just for eye candy. 'Twould be a fun conversion as well.
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Really nice! looks very good, the whole table.
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...In RPG's do you ever have Common Folk? It could be fun to have an Orc farmer and his family on a huge game board just for eye candy...
Funny you should ask...there are a couple common folk very much like you describe in the last scenario we ran, "The Defense of Strek":
(http://swordandsorcery99.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/eyecandy001laf.jpg)
In this game, if the orcs had 2 turns at the longhouse, it was considered burned and they were victorious. I again played the humans and I'm afraid I'll have to keep you waiting til next week for the battle report of that one. :'(
As far as human civvies, oh boy! Check out page 2, bottom panel of my Made With Minis comics "Lords of Timlin #1" (http://swordandsorcery99.wordpress.com/comics/lords-of-timlin/) for a sampling of our human civilians. You can find them sprinkled throughout the comics.
We have orc settlements planned to make over summer vacation. We'll have our orc civilians out in force for that; we use Kev Adams sculpts as orclings, and have collected orc peasant women as well.
Really nice! looks very good, the whole table.
Thanks a bunch, Glad you liked it all!
Jevenkah
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For our second scenario, Teshub again played the orcs, but this time he played as a raiding party of 10 urogs (like orcs, but the longer they live, the bigger they grow. So they're huge and worth the same as cavalry.) I played as Baron Austerchild, a local noble defending his lands who has caught these urogs between two of his cavalry units.
The fuller report is on the blog: http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/fantasy-warriors/fantasy-warriors-urogs-vs-heavy-cavalry/
(http://swordandsorcery99.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/au1001.jpg)
I deploy my forces with confidence, having chosen a new ruler for this encounter.
(http://swordandsorcery99.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/au1002b.jpg?w=600)
My first cavalry unit charges his urogs, with devasting results.
(http://swordandsorcery99.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/au1005.jpg)
But when my elite unit crashes his line, the humans slaughter the urogs, and keep this corner of Timlin safe for a little longer.
(http://swordandsorcery99.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/au1008.jpg)
War is hell, but I'm starting to find war-gaming really fun. Hope you enjoyed,
Jevenkah
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HOORAY for the Horse Soldiers! It looks WONDERFUL & sounds like GREAT FUN!
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This was lots of fun! My wife is proving to be a skilled Warchief! :`
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It certainly looks a good game!
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When is your group getting together to play on this table?
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Thanks all!
When is your group getting together to play on this table?
The Official "official" First Battle will be a crossover RPG/Fantasy Warriors night for Saga of the Gautrian Kings #40 (http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/game-nights/sagas-of-the-gautrian-kings-40-preview-2/), Sat the 15th. But we've used it in #39 Wynston's Gambit (http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/game-nights/sagas-of-the-gautrian-kings-39/), and I've now battled two of our other players (individually) on it. We have spent so much time playing & prepping, the blogging hasn't quite caught up. :) We want a good grasp of the rules before we play it for real.
Why? Are you coming to the east coast soon? We're conveniently located near 2 major airports. :)
It certainly looks a good game!
I'm having a lot of fun, and while I enjoyed strategy games when I was younger, wargaming was just never something I got into. This is a great little rule set that I think can engage the mind on enough levels without being overwhelming with rules or numbers.
Keep checking the blog for updates, though I generally post there a few minutes before I share some pix here.
Jevenkah
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We had company here for some Fantasy Warriors last Saturday night (http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/fantasy-warriors/grunevaldians-vs-kildarians-in-fantasy-warriors/).
My husband Teshub had parceled out the armies ahead of time:
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/KildareVsGrunevald_103.jpg)
(L to R: Kildarians (myself), Gautrians (our Jarl), Grunevaldians (our guest), Vangens (Teshub))
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/KildareVsGrunevald_069.jpg)
Tabling the armies
This battle was a helpful one to see how the terrain worked in use.
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/KildareVsGrunevald_077.jpg)
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/KildareVsGrunevald_078.jpg)
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/KildareVsGrunevald_080.jpg)
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/KildareVsGrunevald_082.jpg)
It seemed an evenly matched battle. Who would come out on top? Come check out the blog for more pictures of the experience: http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/fantasy-warriors/grunevaldians-vs-kildarians-in-fantasy-warriors/ (http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/fantasy-warriors/grunevaldians-vs-kildarians-in-fantasy-warriors/)
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/KildareVsGrunevald_097.jpg)
Jevenkah
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Before checking out the report, I spotted the only one smiling in the last photo thus gaining some insight into the Final Outcome...CONGRATULATIONS, Jev.
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Impressive armies !
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I reaæy love your setups. They have a fantastic old school charm, that just captures the imagination and then a such a detailed fantasy world adds the cherry to the top.
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Thanks for the compliments everyone! We've been having loads of fun playing and moving all of these little figures.
We've had the opportunity to play a few Fantasy Warriors battles now. The first battle we fought last Saturday night was our Jarl Kvig and his Gautrians against myself as the Kildarians.
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/KildareVSGautria_000-600x450.jpg)
My Kildarian army is the far left, and his Gautrians are next to mine.
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/KildareVsGautria_012-600x394.jpg)
Come see how the battle played out, or just come to see more pictures. :)
http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/fantasy-warriors/gautrians-vs-kildarians-in-fantasy-warrior/
Jevenkah
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We had friends come by during the week and were able to play more Fantasy Warriors! For the first time, we had 2 orc armies battle it out. A high-school D & D buddy played as Valden the Ruthless commanding his Vangen orcs against our other long-time player as Graf Gorik leading the League of Nil-ith Horn orcs.
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/LNHOrcs_vs_Vangens_Armies-600x385.jpg)
The League of Nil-ith Horn orcs deploy on the hill while the Vangens storm across the field.
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/LNHOrcs_vs_Vangens_001-600x382.jpg)
The League orcs stubbornly hold the hill as the Vangens approach.
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/LNHOrcs_vs_Vangens_002.jpg)
Will the high ground prevail? Or will Valden destroy everything in his path?
Come to the website and see: http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/fantasy-warriors/lnh-orcs-vs-vangen-orcs/
Jevenkah
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HOORAY FOR THE GREEN GUYS!...that was a pretty safe exclamation. As a Goblin Guy, it's always fine watching the Big Greens killing each other off.
You get a lot of action out of some modest numbers...a FINE recommendation for the rules & the gamers. Thanks for the post...another enjoyable read & stare session.
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Hi all! Teshub and I have been hosting many Fantasy Warriors battles since filling out our armies (http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/workshop/human-bannermen/) and building our table (http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/workshop/wargaming-tabletop/) and terrain (http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/workshop/hills/).
In one of our recent battles, I got to fight a friend who had DM'd us when I was in high school.
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Gautrians_vs_Vangens_200-600x450.jpg)
I played as the human Gautrian army while he commanded the Vangen orcs.
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Gautrians_vs_Vangens_202-600x450.jpg)
It was a very quick moving combat.
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Gautrians_vs_Vangens_204-600x292.jpg)
Will Valden the Ruthless destroy the men of Gautria? Come to the site and find out:
http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/fantasy-warriors/gautrians-vs-vangen-orcs/
Jevenkah
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Yet another EXCELLENT Battle Report! Beyond the visual treat, the photos do tend to bring back memories of Battles long forgotten that glow with a light of their own in remembrance...Old Guys are subject to flowery moments. Keep us updated on the action.
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A quick break from battle reports! I was asked to post my husband's d10 conversion of the Fantasy Warriors ruleset. I kept the .doc in that format so anyone could change bits they wanted to.
http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/d10-House-Rules.doc (http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/d10-House-Rules.doc)
http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/D10_Cheat_Sheet.pdf (http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/D10_Cheat_Sheet.pdf)
Enjoy, and find the original ruleset at: http://www.em4miniatures.com/acatalog/Fantasy_Warriors.html
Jevenkah
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Great thread :-*
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A quick break from battle reports! I was asked to post my husband's d10 conversion of the Fantasy Warriors ruleset. I kept the .doc in that format so anyone could change bits they wanted to.
http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/d10-House-Rules.doc (http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/d10-House-Rules.doc)
http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/D10_Cheat_Sheet.pdf (http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/D10_Cheat_Sheet.pdf)
Enjoy, and find the original ruleset at: http://www.em4miniatures.com/acatalog/Fantasy_Warriors.html
Jevenkah
I like that taking photographs is an official part of your combat turn. :)
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Teshub and I hosted a few game nights during our vacation week. One of our young players got to fight her first Fantasy Warriors battle with our generation. She played with her father as a League of Nil-ith Horn Orc relief force ordered to the Vangen capital of Kednvald. They were attacked en route by a rebellious Great Northern Hertog urog and myself, his unaffiliated urog ally. Teshub was the GM.
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/GatnvaldHallRoad_0009.jpg)
The Great Northern Hertog urog warlord had his units hidden in the woods ahead of the League of Nil-ith Horn column. A unit of elite urog valdgrafs with shields and heavy armor fought for the Hertog, along with another urog hero and his unit of orc reavers with 2-handed weapons and medium armor. I commanded an urog warlord with a unit of veteran reavers who bore shields and wore heavy armor, and an urog heroine and her unit of elite orc ambushers.
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/GatnvaldHallRoad_0005web.jpg)
My warlord and reavers climbed the ridge for a more threatening position of the road. The elite orc ambushers displayed uncanny speed as they and the heroine attacked the unit of smerdi at the rear. There was a great clash, but few casualties. The Hertog brought his unit of elite heavy infantry around the woods and bogs, while he attacked the League of Nil-ith Horn medium unit in the road with his reavers. Father answered the reavers in the road with his veteran shield unit, and attacked my reavers on the ridge with his smerdi infantry. Daughter sent her elite pike unit up the road at the Hertog and his elite heavy infantry.
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/GatnvaldHallRoad_0021.jpg)
Daughter found her elite unit wiped out quickly, save for the bannerman. When he fell, the Hertog and his valdgrafs continued down the road towards Father’s unit. Father’s smerdi proved more efficient killers as they eliminated my reavers on the ridge, then rushed down the hill to support his hand and shield unit.
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/GatnvaldHallRoad_0047web.jpg)
But Daughter’s smerdi were worn down by the savage ambushers and the Great Northern orcs converged on the remaining League of Nil-ith Horn forces.
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/GatnvaldHallRoad_0051web.jpg)
And none of that relief force reached Kednvald. But we all had a blast!
More pictures to be found at the website:
http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/ambush-on-the-road-to-kednvald/
Jevenkah
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I really love seeing your battle reports and pictures.The scenery is great.I just wish i could have seen more pictures of the mountain fortress.
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As always a pleasure seeing your set up, looks like a great game.
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That is a FANTASTIC LOOKING game...I love the Mountain. GREAT WORK!
Having the now grown children of the gamers join The Group is a turning point...turning points = feeling OLD. That happened to my erstwhile AD&D Group; it made for renewed interest in the game. I hope Father & Daughter enjoyed their new share interest.
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Glad you enjoyed!
I really love seeing your battle reports and pictures.The scenery is great.I just wish i could have seen more pictures of the mountain fortress.
"...ask at the LAF..." Here is a slightly closer angle of the ruins on the mountain:
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/GatnvaldHallRoad_0007web.jpg)
and a little more of the side facing the road:
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/GatnvaldHallRoad_0014web.jpg)
The ruins are modular pieces Teshub made around when our youngest was a newborn (speaking of turning points- he's 8 now and was the one who drew the plans for the furniture for the Orc Hall (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=56151.60))
They were the perfect entrance into a troll lair for our winter episode of Sagas of the Gautrian Kings #44:
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/SGK_44_0052web.jpg)
Jevenkah
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Fantastic scenery as always and a great bat rep. It is good to actually see ruined walls with a proper thickness to them - walls that were designed to stop an invading army still standing after decades of weather and neglect.
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Thanks for the extra pictures Jevenkah.The seperate wall pieces look great.I had seen other pictures of the hall and the internal work too.I must have a try at something similar.Looking forward to the next battle report.
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He,
compliments, very good!
But it is precisely Fantasy Warriors? Or an homemade skirmish variant?
How come round bases? Fantasy Warriors don't use them bat square bases and rectangular for Cavalry.
What is the company that makes the Knights?
Cheers,
Sergio
Naran Team Turin
http://www.naran.it/
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He,
compliments, very good!
But it is precisely Fantasy Warriors? Or an homemade skirmish variant?
How come round bases? Fantasy Warriors don't use them bat square bases and rectangular for Cavalry.
What is the company that makes the Knights?
Cheers,
Sergio
Naran Team Turin
http://www.naran.it/
Thank you! It is almost entirely based on the Fantasy Warrior ruleset, with homemade rule variations. The major difference is we use d10s instead of d6s. We came to Fantasy Warriors as a more satisfying way of resolving mass combat in our role-playing game. We wanted a descriptive combat system that would help us tell our story. And rather than the Game Master making up the outcomes of all the battles going on around our characters, players get to come and dice some of the fights they may not be personally involved in. It is all for the sake of story and fun, we don't get overly argumentative about 1/8" worth of space in the infantry line. We do take our measurements counting the units as if they had 1" bases, for example in the last scenario the road was 7" wide, so 7 would be the most figures in the front rank after expansion.
Round bases work best for our variety of terrain and style of play. They give a little more flexibility and space, especially for interior scenes.
The blue and yellow knights are Normans and Saxons from Crusader, and the others are Foundry Vikings.
Fantastic scenery as always and a great bat rep. It is good to actually see ruined walls with a proper thickness to them - walls that were designed to stop an invading army still standing after decades of weather and neglect.
Thanks! We liked the walls with sturdy, man-sized stones in them. Also they stand up well at that thickness.
Thanks for the extra pictures Jevenkah.The seperate wall pieces look great.I had seen other pictures of the hall and the internal work too.I must have a try at something similar.Looking forward to the next battle report.
You're welcome! It was funny you asked as I had noticed the next day after we played I hadn't taken any shots of the table from the angle that would have allowed the best view of the ruins. I was too focused on the troops.
The hall was a real blast to work on. I can't wait to have a rumble in that!
Jevenkah
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Thank you! It is almost entirely based on the Fantasy Warrior ruleset, with homemade rule variations. The major difference is we use d10s instead of d6s. We came to Fantasy Warriors as a more satisfying way of resolving mass combat in our role-playing game. We wanted a descriptive combat system that would help us tell our story. And rather than the Game Master making up the outcomes of all the battles going on around our characters, players get to come and dice some of the fights they may not be personally involved in. It is all for the sake of story and fun, we don't get overly argumentative about 1/8" worth of space in the infantry line. We do take our measurements counting the units as if they had 1" bases, for example in the last scenario the road was 7" wide, so 7 would be the most figures in the front rank after expansion.
Round bases work best for our variety of terrain and style of play. They give a little more flexibility and space, especially for interior scenes.
The blue and yellow knights are Normans and Saxons from Crusader, and the others are Foundry Vikings.
Thanks! We liked the walls with sturdy, man-sized stones in them. Also they stand up well at that thickness.
You're welcome! It was funny you asked as I had noticed the next day after we played I hadn't taken any shots of the table from the angle that would have allowed the best view of the ruins. I was too focused on the troops.
The hall was a real blast to work on. I can't wait to have a rumble in that!
Jevenkah
Hello,
many thanks for the explanations and clarifications.
Then, using different dice, you were forced to completely redo all the parameters of the various tests. Was it worth it?
Why not use the original ones?
With respect to the bases:
how do you behave in the combat phase? And to determine if a unit is disorganized? And for the overlapping?
How do you decide if an Individual has joined or only close to a unit?
Cheers,
Sergio
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Hello,
many thanks for the explanations and clarifications.
Then, using different dice, you were forced to completely redo all the parameters of the various tests. Was it worth it?
Why not use the original ones?
With respect to the bases:
how do you behave in the combat phase? And to determine if a unit is disorganized? And for the overlapping?
How do you decide if an Individual has joined or only close to a unit?
I'll answer the easier questions first regarding the bases: If an individual has joined a unit, we line him up as if they would be touching bases. To prevent confusion, an unattached individual must be 2 inches away from any friendly unit. "What you see is what's there" is a favorite saying of ours so terrain and miniatures (and Teshub!) are the final judges of distance, line of sight, worth in contact and other game mechanics of that nature. Our main gaming table is an 8 foot long table which the 4x6 foot Fantasy Warriors Table sits on top of. That leaves 2 feet of space for dice boxes and 2 sheets of paper taped to the table, one for each armies' side. On the paper are empty boxes labeled first unit, second unit, etc. In there we put condition and order cards and sometimes write in pencil any identification of the unit (red shields, pikemen, elite unit). I think the biggest battle we've had so far was "only" 8 units a side and that worked fine with this method. (We also wanted to remove the cards from the tabletop since our cards are black & white and were just showing up as white blobs in the pictures.) So if a unit is disorganized, we put a disorganized card in the appropriate box, and also make the line of miniatures a little out of order.
As for why we made rule changes: our sword-and-sorcery game is based on Bronze-Age mentality. Warriors rule. And Warchiefs don't lead from the rear. Teshub has read many accounts of ancient battles and worked to bring combat on our table in line with the methods and tactics of those times. The changes we've made to the Fantasy Warriors rules we run reflect that. One of our main characters is now a jarl looking to become a king. The politics we were playing became more and more about what our jarl (and party) accomplished on the battlefield and the RPG rules were too cumbersome to resolve skirmishes. Thanks in a large part to positive reviews from your team on the LAF, and in smaller part the love we already had for the Lund orcs, Teshub decided to try Fantasy Warriors for this purpose.
The change to d10s was an easy way to convert a wargaming system to match up with the d20 RPG rules. We do have shorter game nights with just Fantasy Warrior battles, but mostly we work the battles into the over-all (4-6 hours long) game session. The changes we made are tailored to our world and miniatures. We kept most of the modifiers in the game intact, and simply looked at statistic charts and did some math to keep the odds similar to the original rules. It was certainly worth it for what we do, but Fantasy Warriors as written was very fun and easy to learn. It's challenging to play with plenty of room for strategy and luck.
Thanks for the interest, feel free to ask more questions if you have them!
Jevenkah
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Another Fantasy Warriors battle brought family together over our gaming table last week as my daughter and her friend fought against myself. The girls each had a unit of Gautrain heavy cavalry and a unit of heavy infantry (Red banners and Blue banners). I commanded 4 units of blue-and-yellow Kildarians, 2 of heavy cavalry and 2 of heavy infantry.
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/GautrianGames_0015web.jpg)
I deployed my cavalry on the hill to meet the Red Gautrains, and lined my infantry up on the right, ready to slowly move up the field against the Blue. (The large landscape piece in the middle of the table isn’t really there.)
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/GautrianGames_0030web.jpg)
Blue put her cavalry on the attack and charged into my infantry line. Next to them, her Gautrian infantry became mired in the swamps. Red started the march down the hill with her infantry, while her cavalry waited to pick their target. My heavy infantry and Blue’s cavalry took slight losses. Blue’s infantry slogged through the swamp. Red attacked my center cavalry with her cavalry. On my left flank, Red’s infantry approached my cavalry.
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/GautrianGames_0035web.jpg)
Blue’s infantry charged into the fray, displacing and disorganizing her own cavalry but decimating my first infantry unit. My second unit closed ranks and continued the fight as Blue’s cavalry crashed forward into the infantry. Both sides’ cavalry units in the center lost riders. My cavalry on the left held strong and dealt many blows to Red’s infantry unit.
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/GautrianGames_0049web.jpg)
more pictures and report on the website:
http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/gautrian-games/
Jevenkah
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I'll answer the easier questions first regarding the bases: If an individual has joined a unit, we line him up as if they would be touching bases. To prevent confusion, an unattached individual must be 2 inches away from any friendly unit. "What you see is what's there" is a favorite saying of ours so terrain and miniatures (and Teshub!) are the final judges of distance, line of sight, worth in contact and other game mechanics of that nature. Our main gaming table is an 8 foot long table which the 4x6 foot Fantasy Warriors Table sits on top of. That leaves 2 feet of space for dice boxes and 2 sheets of paper taped to the table, one for each armies' side. On the paper are empty boxes labeled first unit, second unit, etc. In there we put condition and order cards and sometimes write in pencil any identification of the unit (red shields, pikemen, elite unit). I think the biggest battle we've had so far was "only" 8 units a side and that worked fine with this method. (We also wanted to remove the cards from the tabletop since our cards are black & white and were just showing up as white blobs in the pictures.) So if a unit is disorganized, we put a disorganized card in the appropriate box, and also make the line of miniatures a little out of order.
As for why we made rule changes: our sword-and-sorcery game is based on Bronze-Age mentality. Warriors rule. And Warchiefs don't lead from the rear. Teshub has read many accounts of ancient battles and worked to bring combat on our table in line with the methods and tactics of those times. The changes we've made to the Fantasy Warriors rules we run reflect that. One of our main characters is now a jarl looking to become a king. The politics we were playing became more and more about what our jarl (and party) accomplished on the battlefield and the RPG rules were too cumbersome to resolve skirmishes. Thanks in a large part to positive reviews from your team on the LAF, and in smaller part the love we already had for the Lund orcs, Teshub decided to try Fantasy Warriors for this purpose.
The change to d10s was an easy way to convert a wargaming system to match up with the d20 RPG rules. We do have shorter game nights with just Fantasy Warrior battles, but mostly we work the battles into the over-all (4-6 hours long) game session. The changes we made are tailored to our world and miniatures. We kept most of the modifiers in the game intact, and simply looked at statistic charts and did some math to keep the odds similar to the original rules. It was certainly worth it for what we do, but Fantasy Warriors as written was very fun and easy to learn. It's challenging to play with plenty of room for strategy and luck.
Thanks for the interest, feel free to ask more questions if you have them!
Jevenkah
O.K., many thanks for the very exaustive explanation.
Cheers.
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HURRAH another Addicted Generation joins the fray! I hope they enjoyed The Game.
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They had a blast. And now that our friend's daughter has a couple battles under her belt she has started to translate Naran Team Turin's Siege Rules for Fantasy Warriors:
http://www.naran.it/FantasyWars/Assedi/Assedi.htm for us since this year she placed 3rd in the country on the high school national Italian test!
I think we can all see where this is going: towards that fortified stone orc hall in the background!
Jevenkah
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They had a blast. And now that our friend's daughter has a couple battles under her belt she has started to translate Naran Team Turin's Siege Rules for Fantasy Warriors:
http://www.naran.it/FantasyWars/Assedi/Assedi.htm for us since this year she placed 3rd in the country on the high school national Italian test!
I think we can all see where this is going: towards that fortified stone orc hall in the background!
Jevenkah
He Jevenkah,
Commendable initiative, congratulations.
Of course it makes us very happy.
We have implemented the policy of giving free, putting it on our site, everything that we do for our own use, so that the fans can, if they wish, use it.
When you have finished translating our rules for Siege based on Fantasy Warriors, which we have made (in italian languace, of course), please let us have a copy or make sure that we can download it (eventualy also from this forum), so we'll put it on our website, of course quoting the Author of the translation, so that it can be also available to those not familiar with the Italian. Thank you.
If you need any explanations during the translation, you can safely contact us (you may find our e-mail at our website).
:)
Sergio
Naran Team Turin
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Sergio- You will be the first to know, outside of our gaming group! Our translator is working with pen and paper right now, but we told her we would help her type it up when finished so we could get a digital copy back to you. I'm not sure how long it will take her. Your ruleset looks pretty extensive!
We're looking forward to playing with it, and will pass along your comments to our translator.
Thanks!
Jevenkah
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Sergio- You will be the first to know, outside of our gaming group! Our translator is working with pen and paper right now, but we told her we would help her type it up when finished so we could get a digital copy back to you. I'm not sure how long it will take her. Your ruleset looks pretty extensive!
We're looking forward to playing with it, and will pass along your comments to our translator.
Thanks!
Jevenkah
He Jevenkah,
O.K. For anything your translator may need, you may contact me without any problems.
We update!
Good night.
Sergio
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Sergio- You will be the first to know, outside of our gaming group! Our translator is working with pen and paper right now, but we told her we would help her type it up when finished so we could get a digital copy back to you. I'm not sure how long it will take her. Your ruleset looks pretty extensive!
We're looking forward to playing with it, and will pass along your comments to our translator.
Thanks!
Jevenkah
Hi Friends,
what news about your translation of our Naran's Siege book?
:)
Sergio
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No new news yet, I'm afraid. Our translator is still working on it. Maybe we should have held her character hostage until she was finished? lol
Jevenkah
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No new news yet, I'm afraid. Our translator is still working on it. Maybe we should have held her character hostage until she was finished? lol
Jevenkah
He,
O.K., I understand.
Notify to your translator that she have all my sympathy and moral support.
we feel
:)
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No new news yet, I'm afraid. Our translator is still working on it. Maybe we should have held her character hostage until she was finished? lol
Jevenkah
What a great Fantasy scenario: chain in a dark tower, the lovely Maiden feverishly labors on the the translation of an ancient tome knowing that her rescue depends on its successful completion. Of course her parents might have had a dim view of their daughter locked away in your attic over the Summer...or maybe not.
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What a great Fantasy scenario: chain in a dark tower, the lovely Maiden feverishly labors on the the translation of an ancient tome knowing that her rescue depends on its successful completion. Of course her parents might have had a dim view of their daughter locked away in your attic over the Summer...or maybe not.
Perhaps would you like to propose yourself as a hero to go save the chained Damsel ?
lol
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What a great Fantasy scenario: chain in a dark tower, the lovely Maiden feverishly labors on the the translation of an ancient tome knowing that her rescue depends on its successful completion. Of course her parents might have had a dim view of their daughter locked away in your attic over the Summer...or maybe not.
lol She's the kind of girl that does a lot for everybody, so she would definitely have been missed by her folks. We did get to kidnap her for a backpacking trip over the summer (as seen here: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=54058.msg829197#msg829197 ), but the gaming stuff stayed at home.
Having said that, she looooooves to read so that scenario of her locked away surrounded by books is quite apt! Although, she does play a swordmaiden in our RPG (http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/clanmodrak-04/) and not a scholar.
Jevenkah
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How did I miss this thread - fantastic to see your fantasy warriors in action.
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Gosh - I missed this as well but I'm glad I found it. As one of the original team that produced Fantasy Warriors, it's such a thrill when one discovers players still using it nearly a quarter of a century after we published it.
I love the look of your games. Plenty of space for manouver, excellent terrain and scenery and scenarios that mean the battle's result has meaning in a wider context. I also like the appearance of the round bases - the result reminds me of some of the battles in Brigadier Young and Colonel Lawford's seminal "Charge" book (still my favourite wargames book). Your scenery is much better, by the way... :).
I look forward to reading more of your exploits and long may you keep the flame of Fantasy Warriors burning.
Doug
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Thank you very much, Doug! In the mid 1990s, we were so inspired by the Nick Lund orc sculpts, we based an entire orc culture on them! We plucked them out wherever we found them in our state-to-state explorations of hobby shops, and used them to run whole series of adventures in the Orc Lands.
Since coming to this forum a few years ago, our painting and modeling skills have grown, and so grew our collection. We acquired armies and needed guiding rules to play with them. When Teshub saw the game reports of Fantasy Warriors, it only made sense to try the game made for the orcs I fell in love with so many years ago!
The Rules you produced are wonderful in that we have brought them to 30+ year gamers, and we've been up and playing in minutes, and at the same time there is a level of detail of play we've enjoyed for hours.
Thanks too for your compliments on the imagery of our games. The core principles behind our terrain are playability and versatility. We recently set up a classic pass battle for our RPG night in Sagas of the Gautrian Kings #53- Battle of Hellgate Pass :
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/sgk_53_022.jpg)
Then used a little neutral scenery to introduce a "new" player:
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/JimFW_002.jpg)
And had the next gen play-test some rosters with the same terrain:
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Smerdi_135.jpg)
I looked up "Charge" and it sounds like a good read (and quite the thing to be compared with, thanks!). That's one more book to add to my reading list...
More games and reports are forthcoming! Last year around this time we hosted an all day Fantasy Warriors Wargaming Event (http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/the-campaign/lnh_invasion/) with seven players,
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/War_0352.jpg)
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Larbro_Raid_01_012.jpg)
lots of political ramifications, and fresh baked bread. It was so much fun we're doing it again this year, but with more food.
You all will get reports when it happens. Game On!
Jevenkah
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It seems that for a lot of gamers time spent in their pastime is grudgingly given by their "significant other"...modern jargon for "the love of one's life". An active gaming group consisting of your family & friends sets you apart; building your life around it makes you an ideal to be emulated. GREAT STUFF...couldn't happen to a NICER couple.
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And "Hello, Golgotha!", glad you found this thread too! As I've lauded before, Fantasy Warriors is a really fun, playable system. We've been using it with anywhere from 40 to 80 figures a side so far.
Thanks, Nala. We are lucky to have found our "thing" so early on. We're able to enjoy the almost meditative state of crafting together, and when it culminates on the game table in something our friends and family can have so much fun doing with us, it is indeed something special.
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/sgk_53_004.jpg)
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/sgk_53_047.jpg)
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/sgk_53_053.jpg)
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/sgk_53_092.jpg)
Jevenkah
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OOH, PRETTY PHOTOS!...I love the expression on your face. This is a perfect post; re, right now staring a pictures is about the height of my capabilities.
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Jevenkah
Looking forward to your report after you've played your next all-day event - it should be a visual treat.
As I type, I haae a base being laid in my garden for a "garden office" (really just a shed) which, if truth be told, I'm planning on using more as a garden wargames room. My plan, partly inspired by this thread, is to inaugurate it with a Fantasy Warriors battle involving my son, nephews and brother-in-law. In the days when we were playtesting FW, they were all involved in trial games, even though my son and nephews were very young back then. We had a campaign going for some time until they grew up, went to University, got married etc. But they often recall the old games and plaintively ask when we are going to have another. With luck, that time may not be far off.
First, I must try and find all the notes we've made over the years of rules interpretations and modifications. I foresee lively debate... :)
Thanks for your continuing inspiration.
Doug
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What a great thread. Lovely looking mins and terrain. Nice to see it all getting plenty of use :D
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Thanks again Doug! I'm grateful I get to play with a wonderful group of gamers, friends and relatives both.
And I'm happy to be party to any movement that gets a game going.
Thank you Brummie Thug! We put it all to good use this past holiday weekend and introduced another new player to "Fantasy Warriors"!
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Thankful_001.jpg)
Our translator commanded the orc forces, 6 units of infantry in total.
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Thankful_010.jpg)
Daughter commanded two Kildarian cavalry units plus one unit of picked men, while the new fellow was granted 2 units of ulfhednar and a unit of berserks.
The battle was fierce, with lots of dice being thrown.
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Thankful_013.jpg)
Our youngest helped roll for the orcs:
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Thankful_028.jpg)
And helped document the fun:
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Thankful_018.jpg)
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Thankful_050.jpg)
It was a back-and-forth battle with figures coming off the board every turn.
(http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Thankful_046.jpg)
Many more pictures, (*warning* most are adorable) and report on the website:
http://swordandsorceryrpg.com/be-thankful/
Jevenkah
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To finish off the picture I read your bio. I'm sure you realize what an idyllic life you & Himself have...AND deservedly so. It is all rather WONDERFUL.
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Well done!
Compliments !
:)
Sergio
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Have you seen the images of our last battle?
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=73227.0
It is FANTASY WARRIORS too !
Cheers,
Sergio
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Not only close-fought, but bloody to boot!
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As I type, I haae a base being laid in my garden for a "garden office" (really just a shed) which, if truth be told, I'm planning on using more as a garden wargames room. My plan, partly inspired by this thread, is to inaugurate it with a Fantasy Warriors battle involving my son, nephews and brother-in-law. In the days when we were playtesting FW, they were all involved in trial games, even though my son and nephews were very young back then. We had a campaign going for some time until they grew up, went to University, got married etc. But they often recall the old games and plaintively ask when we are going to have another. With luck, that time may not be far off.
First, I must try and find all the notes we've made over the years of rules interpretations and modifications. I foresee lively debate... :)
Thanks for your continuing inspiration.
Doug
If shedman turns up I'll hopefully be joining you ;-)
Fantastic pictures Jevenkah and I'm jealous about the size of your room ;-)
G
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Doug, A garden shed sounds like such a wonderful place to game! I'm picturing sunflowers by the door.
I've seen how much our family loves to game together; I hope you all have as much fun rekindling your campaigns.
Thanks for the compliments, shredder. Our house was built by my husband, his father and many friends and family. We used trusses so we didn't need any interior walls for support, and kept open a room downstairs and a room upstairs that are essentially half of the floor plan. (I talk about the space a little more in my other thread here: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=54058.msg829757#msg829757) It's a fantastic space.
Thanks Nala! I am indeed most blessed and idyllic is definitely a word I would use to describe our home!
Jevenkah