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Title: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Michi on July 28, 2013, 08:13:42 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-x4bbfNPCcME/UfVqZt6h09I/AAAAAAAAGAM/QeaXj4BmpGo/s1600/Figurenfotos+002.JPG)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rwu6kq3Qr90/UfVqaCOlk_I/AAAAAAAAGAQ/SpO6oJJRMp8/s1600/Figurenfotos+003.JPG)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rQtz4qX6nyA/UfVqdKtgEhI/AAAAAAAAGA4/vtGrcuwVvME/s1600/Figurenfotos+007.JPG)
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Hu Rhu on July 28, 2013, 10:14:49 PM
That should provide a 'storm of arrows'.  Excellent figures.
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: killshot on July 28, 2013, 10:21:14 PM
 :o those are excellent!!  :-*
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: racm32 on July 29, 2013, 09:36:07 PM
What company they from?
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Captain Blood on July 29, 2013, 09:50:10 PM
Excellent painting Michi. Love those.
And not a girl in sight!  :o  :o
 ;)
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Michi on July 29, 2013, 10:12:14 PM
What company they from?

Foundry, I believe. But that is not certain, because I havenīt labelled the lead pile...
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Little Odo on July 30, 2013, 10:55:28 PM
I agree - very nice indeed.  :-*
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Dewbakuk on July 31, 2013, 06:47:36 AM
I think they're a mix of Foundry and Crusader.
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Michi on July 31, 2013, 04:50:24 PM
I think they're a mix of Foundry and Crusader.
Thatīs well possible. I remember buying crusaders and romans from Foundry, Renegade, Old Glory and Crusader.
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Andym on July 31, 2013, 05:41:16 PM
Sublime painting Michi!! :o :o :o A lovely use of colours too!
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: janner on August 05, 2013, 08:07:02 AM
You've done a good job on these. I like the colours.

Gamers often put skirmishers in drab fabrics when colorful fabrics using natural dyes were most likely widely available.
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on August 05, 2013, 08:16:36 AM
Excellent painting Michi. Love those.
And not a girl in sight!  :o  :o
 ;)


Just my thought  :D

Superb, Michi!
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: guitarheroandy on August 05, 2013, 11:11:50 AM
What company they from?

There are definitely some Perry First Crusade models in there - I know this because I have the same models in my 100% Perry El Cid Spanish army for WAB. The others do look like a lot like Crusader sculpts, but I'm not 100% certain of those.

Nice painting on all of them. The colour palette is varied, yet suitably subdued. Very nice indeed!
Title: Re: Saga: 3 points of Norman archers
Post by: Michi on August 29, 2013, 08:33:02 PM
By adding another point worth of archers now it is 3 points of Norman levies. This time the miniatures are the officially supplied Saga-Normans from Gripping Beast:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KgADhtqaBqY/Uh-eoJyRQOI/AAAAAAAAGHQ/eStIIwmBiTw/s1600/Saga+003.JPG)
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: aircav on August 30, 2013, 07:28:24 AM
Superb stuff  :-* :-*
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Hu Rhu on August 30, 2013, 09:18:06 AM
As I said before the figures are fantastic but you are going to have a difficult job using all three units in a game and win.  Peasants are difficult to to activate and to get the best out of them you will need to load your battleboard with Storm of Arrows, Aimed Volley and Massed Volley - at the same time peasants don't generate SAGA dice.

I'd be interested in how you get on.
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Dr. The Viking on August 30, 2013, 06:08:58 PM
Yeah, that's looking really great.

I regret not having bought any archers for my Normans but only sucky sucky warriors with spear..  ;D
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Michi on August 30, 2013, 11:18:25 PM
you are going to have a difficult job using all three units in a game and win.  Peasants are difficult to to activate and to get the best out of them you will need to load your battleboard with Storm of Arrows, Aimed Volley and Massed Volley - at the same time peasants don't generate SAGA dice.

I'd be interested in how you get on.

I havenīt played Saga yet, but I am aware of the peasants difficulties. I simply had so many archers, what else than painting them should I have done? I will try several combinations in the games that will be played and let you know how they perform.
To have not to rely on peasants for ranged attacks I now painted a unit of warriors equipped with crossbows too:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Q3v2ayM3uR4/UiEW-nRplHI/AAAAAAAAGIM/ISe2tqtN99c/s1600/Saga+008.JPG)
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Hatemonger on September 02, 2013, 08:00:46 PM
I havenīt played Saga yet, but I am aware of the peasants difficulties. I simply had so many archers, what else than painting them should I have done? I will try several combinations in the games that will be played and let you know how they perform.
If you use the special character William the Bastard (yes, that's the William), you are allowed to equip anyone (i.e. warriors or hearthguard) with bows as an option. At the very least, that could be a fun variant warband to try, even if it's only to get all the archers off the shelf once in a while.

- H8
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Michi on September 02, 2013, 08:19:11 PM
If you use the special character William the Bastard (yes, that's the William), you are allowed to equip anyone (i.e. warriors or hearthguard) with bows as an option. At the very least, that could be a fun variant warband to try, even if it's only to get all the archers off the shelf once in a while.

- H8

Hey, thatīs a cool hint. Iīm going to try that!
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Captain Blood on September 02, 2013, 10:18:26 PM
Great to see this growing band Michi  :)
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Dr. The Viking on September 03, 2013, 06:47:40 PM
Stop it!

You're making my Normans look even sloppier!  lol
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: janner on September 03, 2013, 08:24:35 PM
Stop it!

You're making my Normans look even sloppier!  lol

I think it's a personal campaign, matey. I'll watch your back  ;)
Title: Saga Normans
Post by: Michi on October 02, 2013, 11:13:08 PM
I got a sheet of gripping beast shield transfers that I did not intend to buy, but as they were there I didnīt want to waste them, although it is a question of honour that the miniatures shield will be painted freehand. Therefore I used them to make a few fatigue markers (one shield on a base is one and two shields on a base is worth two fatigue points):

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3cYy68bhY-U/UkyU1-utHhI/AAAAAAAAGOY/7t7Bb6FIMLI/s1600/Kinderbilder+031.JPG)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MxgDsJRFj1s/UkyU1N48SVI/AAAAAAAAGOQ/mfV4CBZiNl4/s1600/Kinderbilder+032.JPG)
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: ducat on October 02, 2013, 11:32:33 PM
Some cracking paint work there. Particularly like the fatigue markers too.

One option with all those bowmen - Sometimes you could use the Frank battle board and army list, one of the particular army lists enables bow armed warriors. Same Saga dice as the Normans utilised too.

Cheers, John.

Title: Re: Saga Normans
Post by: Michi on October 04, 2013, 09:30:34 AM
One option with all those bowmen - Sometimes you could use the Frank battle board and army list, one of the particular army lists enables bow armed warriors. Same Saga dice as the Normans utilised too.

Thanks John, I will have to check it - didnīt know it yet. Living in modern Franconia is reason enough to try playing the ancestors...  ;)
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Mason on October 04, 2013, 09:59:59 AM
Just caught on to this thread, Michi, and shame on me.

They are all absolutely gorgeous and will be filed away for future reference and inspiration.
 :-* :-* :-*


Loving those Fatigue Markers too.
Consider that idea officially 'borrowed'!
Title: Re: Saga Normans
Post by: Michi on October 07, 2013, 09:49:05 PM
And here is the Norman hearthguard to fight for their warlord Godefroy de Montmirail:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YsgH9Hh7Sak/UlMaAEqzL4I/AAAAAAAAGQk/yOEEzeVsptM/s1600/Kinderbilder+021.JPG)

If youīd doubt the fashionable moustaches, let me tell you that the Normans employed quite a few mercenaries...  :D
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Mason on October 07, 2013, 09:56:01 PM
Oh, Michi, they're so fine....
 :-*

Absolutely gorgeous.
 :-*


This recent influx of wonderfully-painted Normans is very inspirational.
I must make a start on mine soon.
 :)

Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Michi on May 01, 2016, 04:33:14 PM
LPL 10 made me adding some more levies:

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QLVyEEdbM0M/VyYdjGh6w7I/AAAAAAAAJDE/jlNxiBe0n8Uc6Qvd-1ziiYHC1-hsECOzgCLcB/s1600/Normannen%2B011.JPG)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mereXxGo-Is/VyYdjFZgoEI/AAAAAAAAJDA/WtisojkrxpwECc0xNUlDIeZAX4wrBhxHACLcB/s1600/Normannen%2B012.JPG)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DjxwyRst5Xo/VyYdjysahzI/AAAAAAAAJDI/8N9Q_M8ibr8VP6zt446CqFdKlOYcAkqvQCLcB/s1600/Normannen%2B013.JPG)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OkgLJy5m0yY/VyYdkSYxGBI/AAAAAAAAJDQ/Hl7PfOM0VbEM5Qext5bwasBOZ2KBrW3VACLcB/s1600/Normannen%2B014.JPG)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5HfSlWlL3AM/VyYdkMUHWpI/AAAAAAAAJDM/zTl_2oBCi3odKzo6dvyJo-OFnpeSEjBOgCLcB/s1600/Normannen%2B015.JPG)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Lx_vyskTgJY/VyYdkpO_4nI/AAAAAAAAJDU/AsNaygbgYDMJIW2PDgnIeM0NQGdzEH_BACLcB/s1600/Normannen%2B016.JPG)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9Y-x_ZjOmRU/VyYdkw2nn5I/AAAAAAAAJDY/yBO4Oicln5gDsZ34ud4otng7WrWLuRGSQCLcB/s1600/Normannen%2B017.JPG)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-E4dYOO2hyRY/VyYdlIjGDMI/AAAAAAAAJDc/S6Fe0WJctas47nUIfxz1D6ylaZULZAUMwCLcB/s1600/Normannen%2B018.JPG)
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Captain Blood on May 01, 2016, 04:38:04 PM
Those are brilliant Michi. The shields are really something  :-*
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: rumacara on May 02, 2016, 09:55:57 AM
Wow... :-* :-*
Very nice Michael.
Although this looks more a army than a Saga force. :)
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: tancrede on May 02, 2016, 10:05:59 AM
Juste wonderful !!
I like the way you've painted the shields, with the weathered effect...  :-*
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Andym on May 03, 2016, 07:12:08 PM
Brilliant! :-* How do you achieve that wonderful blended look on your clothing?
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: MM on May 03, 2016, 08:39:27 PM
Beautiful, and I was wondering the same thing...really like your clothing (and the worn shields of course). How to achieve those effects, especially the clothing?
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Michi on May 03, 2016, 09:04:27 PM
How to achieve those effects, especially the clothing?

Itīs a simple seven-step layering (basic colour plus white).
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Andym on May 04, 2016, 11:31:15 AM
Itīs a simple seven-step layering (basic colour plus white).


I don't know if the words 'simple' and 'seven-step' can be put in the same sentence! :o
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Michi on May 04, 2016, 11:51:22 AM


I don't know if the words 'simple' and 'seven-step' can be put in the same sentence! :o

I think it is rather a question of patience (for the amount of effort you want to put in the process) than anything else. It is in fact simple, but it takes its time. Look at that bale for illustration:
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XqF5WdSQzNk/VrkPu9gT2II/AAAAAAAAI4Q/Ym6GiGByH6w/s1600/Frostgrave%2B004.JPG)
Title: Saga: 3 points of Norman cavalry
Post by: Michi on February 19, 2018, 10:05:23 PM
I decided to finally paint some mounted reinforcements for my Saga Normans now: 1 point of warriors and two points of knights.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rajmVibx4BM/WotEmZ3SqPI/AAAAAAAAJvw/DPVnYy3rpMQWPTBbdhFMp-q5XRSlp8tTACLcBGAs/s1600/Normannen%2B013.JPG)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aQwRoj44B9c/WotEl-WsjaI/AAAAAAAAJvo/jngqN5yAmCgcBEWEn5hlby3t4cbUQXN8QCLcBGAs/s1600/Normannen%2B010.JPG)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KsBvYjUI0nY/WotEl0AvntI/AAAAAAAAJvs/aMk3tDi5OEgXLTfm5dxOmciqDWh7E99cgCLcBGAs/s1600/Normannen%2B008.JPG)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OiKK8M0ZIjA/WotElIFFN8I/AAAAAAAAJvk/hS_z-j6x8IIiiZ9Luc1RDjVn5T0DpzSSgCLcBGAs/s1600/Normannen%2B006.JPG)
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: aircav on February 19, 2018, 10:10:28 PM
Lovely stuff  8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Hu Rhu on February 19, 2018, 10:32:57 PM
Lovely painnting on those knights.   :-*
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Koyote on February 19, 2018, 11:15:59 PM
Beautiful work.  Love all the colors.

The new Age of Vikings book made the Normans much better than they were previously.  Give your Warlord a Famous Steed (a new relic/artifact) and England will be yours. 
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: rumacara on February 20, 2018, 08:24:59 AM
Very well done. :-* :-*
Love those normans.
Are they BTD and GB?
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Codsticker on February 20, 2018, 04:03:02 PM
With the new rules, you might get more value out of those 3 units of archers. :D
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Andym on February 20, 2018, 11:03:50 PM
Cracking colours mate! Great painting! :-*
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Michi on February 21, 2018, 07:46:06 AM
Are they BTD and GB?

Thanks for all those nice comments. A good portion of them are indeed Gripping Beast, but I canīt tell the source of the other ones. They have assembled in the lead pile over the years. Might be that there are Crusader or Old Glory among them too.
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: rumacara on February 21, 2018, 10:18:28 AM
I was just curious about the minis.
I recognise 2 BTD horses and 1 mounted. :)
Title: Re: Saga: 2 points of Norman archers
Post by: Ragnar on February 21, 2018, 10:58:26 AM
Lovely stuff again Michi.