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Title: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: Van-Helsing on July 29, 2013, 06:12:52 PM
Anyone else on here, ever played "Vor - the Maelstrom"?

It's been one of my favourite Games over the years - and a game I keep returning too.

Before people get super critical, I am aware these aren’t the best of my efforts – but still I do love my Shard Army for VOR the Maelstrom (and still do, I painted these around ten years ago LoL)

It has an interesting little tale. We were well into Vor for a while (actually I never stopped liking it) and I knew my friend John (Mackrory for those on Facebook) wanted to use his Union in the next Game (I had started my Union, but not finished them) rather than his Zykhee – Growlers were out of the question, as Steve was planning to use his. So mine was a toss-up between my Neo-Soviets, my Pharon, or my Shard.

My Neo-Soviets were the ones I had painted the Most for, BUT I had chipped a lot of them in a dreaded “case opening” when getting them out of the car, my Pharon were still in blisters, so it was my Shard that got the attention. I have never been the fastest of Painters, so I wanted a quick way of painting my “Living Crystal” Army – most people would simply highlight up to white edges – which I personally don’t like the look of. So, I just “went for it” – Metallics, Ink Washes, and Gloss Varnish was the ‘answer’ for me – simple, fast, and looks kinda right to my eyes at least.

They’re never going to truly look like Crystal, unless you could get some cast up in clear resin – but I think the bright, shiney colours does the trick (in spite of the slagging my efforts got from one person). Still, they are done (I had to do some repairs before these pictures, I HATE storing miniatures personally) and I love them (and Vor the Maelstrom) still.

(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/575137_615152505185385_1467865050_n.jpg)
Shard Army Group (1000 Points), could go over the 1k if you "load up" on Abilities though.

(http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/995748_615153061851996_488185363_n.jpg)
The Axion and a Prime - the Leaders of the Force.

(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/995460_615153261851976_82242964_n.jpg)
An Eradicator (Closed and Open) - basically the Shard answer to a Tank. It can be deployed closed - so it floats about on the Battlefield before opening out into a giant, deadly crystal crab thingy

(http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/59118_615153805185255_772692740_n.jpg)
Primary Concussor Unit with Concussor Amp Suit

(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p206x206/1016447_615154595185176_2088391974_n.jpg)
A closer look at the Primary Concussor Units Amp Suit

(http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1002320_615153941851908_667543714_n.jpg)
Secondary Concussor Unit

(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/969779_615154125185223_467293963_n.jpg)
A Strider, these cute little walkers are more of a pain for opponents than you would think.

(http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/554871_615154371851865_1343862942_n.jpg)
A Jagged Unit - with some subtle conversions.

Theres always more to do, more to collect - one of the reasons I love this hobby so much!
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: BigB on July 29, 2013, 06:30:30 PM
Sharp looking Shard  lol

Great to see Vor getting some love.  It's a good game.

We are on a Vor kick with my group again.  In fact have the Space Marines converted as well (Genestealer Cult is next!).  My buddies Union is rather sharp and now he's motivated to order some extra support from Iron Wind Metals.  My Growlers are still the heaviest army I have and my Zyhkee will have their hands full for sure.
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: Van-Helsing on July 29, 2013, 07:52:20 PM
I actually started painting some Pharon Last Night - 14 years too late I know, but still LoL!
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: Jonas on July 29, 2013, 08:19:52 PM
Great stuff!!

I never played the game, but have been interested in the miniatures and setting for some time.

I have painted up 10 union troops or such. I think I posted them at LAF at some point. There is also some pictures of them on my blog.
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: Van-Helsing on July 29, 2013, 08:28:03 PM
I was still working for GW when I discovered VOR, there was a core group of us that played. All local GW staff too, cheekily undercoating miniatures at Work ;)

Its STILL a great Ruleset, and a fantastic Background.
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: Fates Fickle Finger on July 29, 2013, 09:02:17 PM
Great stuff! Shard are my favourite as well. Vor is such a great game, good system and brilliant setting. I am gutted that the 2.0 version didn't get off the ground mainly for new miniatures, when you look at some of the poop that gets kickstarter funding now.

FFF
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: Ajsalium on July 29, 2013, 09:11:11 PM
They look truly lovely.

And I too have used metals and glossy varnish for a quick crystal look. When you have to paint a frigging army you just need some way to boost your painting speed.
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: Van-Helsing on July 29, 2013, 09:11:38 PM
Yea FFF, It was a shame - needs a big injection of time and enthusiasm to get it started again.
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: Van-Helsing on July 29, 2013, 09:12:52 PM
They look truly lovely.

And I too have used metals and glossy varnish for a quick crystal look. When you have to paint a frigging army you just need some way to boost your painting speed.

Thanks Mate, thats truly appreciated. Started "pottering" with my Pharon, can't see a "fast" way - my Neo-Sovs are starting at me too . . . .
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: Jonas on July 29, 2013, 09:13:38 PM
I think the Vor 2 Kickstarter was launched before the whole Kickstarter trend really got some attention and the goal was probably set too high.

Hopefully there will be a new try at some point or some bigger compan will pick the game up and continue it.
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: Dentatus on July 29, 2013, 10:51:05 PM
Super nice work on those Shard. VOR was the game that brought me back to TTGs after a long hiatus. Very good memories of Growler brawls.
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: eMills on July 30, 2013, 04:00:24 PM
Awesome work on your shard (eff the guy who gave you the slagging).  lol

Vor is an awesome game.  Vor 2 Kickstarter was ahead of its time.  That and the fact that there were no re-sculpts planned killed it, in my opinion.

Love to see your other models Van Helsing.

~Eric
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: Van-Helsing on July 30, 2013, 06:15:43 PM
My Current plan is to have at least two (small to medium) painted armies for every game I love.

Although Vor, and Starship Troopers will get more attention than that in the long run!

Yea, Vor needs another "kick" in the Ass.
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: spacecowsmith on July 31, 2013, 09:50:09 AM
Hi!

Loving the Vor stuff!

There was indeed a kickstarter but the goal was set rather too high and the rewards were a bit nebulous as I remember along with just a couple of new pieces of black and white artwork to showcase.

I do think Vor deserves to be revamped but I think the creator of the game is unwilling to partner with anyone else to get funding or ensure the game is rereleased.

Sadly even the Vor forum has been shut down and his website stagnated too...
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: Van-Helsing on July 31, 2013, 02:18:38 PM
When Fasa was still "alive" I Emailed Skuzzy a couple of times, and although he was pleasant and helpful - he struck me as "quirky" I think he wanted to "jump right in" and set up Vor as his full time business, which is why the KS Target was so high.

"Nebulous" as you point out, he should have had things such as fund to get the production rights for the Miniatures, new Sculpts, and possibly Terrain as well as the Rulebook. It was a real shame.

Still, I shall keep "flying the flag" in fits and bursts.
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: spacecowsmith on July 31, 2013, 02:45:42 PM
Indeed!

I believe that Ironwind Metals were quite happy to keep producing the existing range for him but some of the sculpts are starting to show their age a little. I'd love to have seen some new Growler sculpts that matched the concept art a bit better too.

Part of the problem is that to produce a game like Vor to the standard that Fasa did, its more than a one man operation and will need considerable cash spent on sculpts and artwork.

Still you never know, Vor may yet re appear, especially following the rise of Warzone from the depths of out of production, especially as its got some really great and original forces and its a shame that they didn't all get fully realised such as the Pharon and the Golems!
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: Inso on July 31, 2013, 03:13:36 PM
There are some lovely paint jobs going on here :) ... the gloss look on the shards is brilliant!

I take it that everyone knows that Ral Partha Europe still sells VOR:

http://www.ralparthaeurope.co.uk/shop/vor-c-55.html
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: Dr.Falkenhayn on July 31, 2013, 03:21:56 PM
yay,very nice to see a nicely painted and complete Shard Army in 2013  ;D :o i sold off most of my VOR Stuff,though i still have a complete nib Pharon Army and some of the IWM Exclusives,the Mashers and the Golem  ;)
more please!  :)
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: Van-Helsing on July 31, 2013, 03:43:03 PM
Got a few Golem Prototypes somewhere, no Mashers though - and the LE "Crystal" Sniper that New Wave did.

IWM Exclusives?? Clarify?
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: Dr.Falkenhayn on July 31, 2013, 04:00:22 PM

IWM Exclusives?? Clarify?

Sorry,don't know how exclusive they really are,at least they're sort of exclusive when you live on the other Side of the Pond and Postage is 26$ minimum  >:D  >:D

Mashers,and some Prototypes sold by IWM  :)

http://ironwindmetals.com/store/index.php?cPath=94_104 (http://ironwindmetals.com/store/index.php?cPath=94_104)
http://ironwindmetals.com/store/index.php?cPath=94_105 (http://ironwindmetals.com/store/index.php?cPath=94_105)
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: Van-Helsing on July 31, 2013, 04:13:59 PM
IWM yes - got those LoL!

They are exclusive to Iron Wind - so you are correct.
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: eMills on July 31, 2013, 04:20:56 PM
I do think Vor deserves to be revamped but I think the creator of the game is unwilling to partner with anyone else to get funding or ensure the game is rereleased.

Sadly even the Vor forum has been shut down and his website stagnated too...
Yeah, this was the biggest issue, I think.  Skuzzy doesn't want to loose his grasp on the property even a little this time.  Which, I can understand, all things considered, but it is keeping him from re-emerging with it.  Taking down the forum and not interacting with the existing fans was the final nail in that coffin.

He also was seemingly unwilling to budge on getting new sculpts made.  They are nice, but most are severely showing their age.  They need redone to compete in the modern market.  The Shard are pretty much the only ones I would consider acceptable for the current market, and even those could use some revamping.

~Eric
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: Van-Helsing on July 31, 2013, 04:23:39 PM
Agreed - I would heavily invest in New Stuff should things get going again. Vor, and Starship Troopers are perhaps my favourite Sci Fi Miniatures games of all time.
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: LeadAsbestos on August 01, 2013, 01:34:05 PM
yay,very nice to see a nicely painted and complete Shard Army in 2013  ;D :o i sold off most of my VOR Stuff,though i still have a complete nib Pharon Army and some of the IWM Exclusives,the Mashers and the Golem  ;)
more please!  :)
The Neo-Sovs I bought from you are STILL the only VOR I have painted up! And lovely they are too! Now about painting all the rest of my troops for me?    ;)
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: Van-Helsing on August 01, 2013, 01:42:08 PM
The Neo-Sovs I bought from you are STILL the only VOR I have painted up!

Pictures?
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: Dr.Falkenhayn on August 01, 2013, 03:05:49 PM
hehe,here they are again  :)

(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad244/Falkenhayn/Sales/Sale001-1.jpg) (http://s940.photobucket.com/user/Falkenhayn/media/Sales/Sale001-1.jpg.html)

and partly here,still loving those Neo Soviet Power Armour Guys...

(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad244/Falkenhayn/Sales/Sale003.jpg) (http://s940.photobucket.com/user/Falkenhayn/media/Sales/Sale003.jpg.html)

the Mechs
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad244/Falkenhayn/VOR001.jpg) (http://s940.photobucket.com/user/Falkenhayn/media/VOR001.jpg.html)

and the only Union Power Armour Mini i have painted,still have a complete Squad of them and planing to paint them up someday  ::) Guy in the middle is a Rezolution CSO Trooper

(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad244/Falkenhayn/modren003.jpg) (http://s940.photobucket.com/user/Falkenhayn/media/modren003.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: LeadAsbestos on August 01, 2013, 03:45:51 PM
The muties lot is now in my greedy little hands! The pics do them no justice! I still have an URSA, more grunts, and a few muties that need some attention!
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: Van-Helsing on August 01, 2013, 04:33:43 PM
FANTASTIC LOVE THEM ALL!

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: zizi666 on August 01, 2013, 05:25:06 PM

and partly here,still loving those Neo Soviet Power Armour Guys...

(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad244/Falkenhayn/Sales/Sale003.jpg) (http://s940.photobucket.com/user/Falkenhayn/media/Sales/Sale003.jpg.html)

These are feeling very happy in their new home - my figure cabinet - when not in combat  ;D
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: obsidian3d on August 01, 2013, 11:41:26 PM
I'd fight for the neo-sov lady... ;)
Title: Re: Van Helsings "Vor - the Maelstrom" Miniatures Thread
Post by: Sangennaru on August 01, 2013, 11:53:03 PM
Falken, i totally missed your pieces, those are wonderful!!! And i really regret that i didn't contribute with some bases accessories for your setting!
If you drop me a pm i can send you some nice little things that could help characterizing your next bases! For free, just the postage :)