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Title: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Steel fist on August 18, 2013, 10:11:02 PM
(http://leadadventureforum.com/Users/dallestate/Desktop/1.jpg)
i have tried to upload a picture hope it works
representing Hosokawa Tadaoki and Katagiri Katsumoto in his bear fur armour, plus three high ranking hatamoto samurai
these are 28mm can be purchased from www.steelfistminiatures.com

cheers
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: OSHIROmodels on August 18, 2013, 10:53:25 PM
Photo didn't work but I saw them on your blog and they are rather special  :-* :-*

cheers

James
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: inkydave on August 19, 2013, 12:19:24 AM
Ditto the above.

Beautiful sculpts :-*
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Dal on August 19, 2013, 09:06:10 AM
Beautiful figures!!!!   :o   :-*
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: white knight on August 19, 2013, 09:34:49 AM
Lovely indeed.

(http://www.steelfistminiatures.com/images/products/11/600/1.jpg)

(http://www.steelfistminiatures.com/images/products/13/600/1.jpg)

(http://www.steelfistminiatures.com/images/products/12/600/1.jpg)
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Svennn on August 19, 2013, 09:38:29 AM
 :-* :-* THE MUTTS NUTS  :-* :-*
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: rokurota on August 19, 2013, 12:38:26 PM
Amazing, like always!  ;)
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Steel fist on August 20, 2013, 10:01:46 AM
cheers everyone im glad they have been so well recieved
thanks white knight for posting pics, people have told me how but it still does not work.

cheers
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: olyreed on August 20, 2013, 10:32:15 AM
Beautiful figures
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: duhamel on November 16, 2013, 10:26:29 AM
many beautiful miniatures :-* :-* but are they mixable with those in Perry miniatures
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Wansui on November 16, 2013, 09:13:56 PM
Superb miniatures,are there any plans to include more daimyo?
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: carlos13th on November 16, 2013, 10:44:30 PM
The moment they make Uesugi Kenshin I am putting an order in.
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: sf2605 on November 17, 2013, 08:00:41 PM
awesome ! Same question than duhamel, are they mixable with perry miniatures ?

Stf
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Steel fist on November 17, 2013, 11:25:40 PM
Hi thanks again for the interest.

I have just put a size comparison with perry on my blog, but i think it depends on what compatible means to you personally, for me it means the same kind of look, because mean are all sizes, what i dont like is to mix heroic dwarflike with more realistic proportions.
I think they look ok, same in style though not seamless because mine are mostly bigger, this is because i found having them a little bigger allowed me to put more detail in.
 also yes many more daimyo are planned, the next release including mounted samurai should be released in january

despite my best efforts i cannot put pics on this forum, but the link to the blog is fistofsteel15c.blogspot.com

hope this helps
cheers
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: carlos13th on November 17, 2013, 11:43:13 PM
Judging by the pictures they are a little larger than Perry in stature but not so big to look out of scale, instead they just look like a taller guy. The guys with the bear suits look bigger but that makes sense because fur would take up more space than closer fitting armour.

Here is the picture :
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OIHXD8Msd18/UolNqmQ5EmI/AAAAAAAAAF4/Iz-bDl7W2v0/s1600/SAM_0573.jpg)

In the future if you need to embed and imagine just type [img ]http://"The Url of the image"[/img] with no space after the first img

As a side not I am going to have to get bear suit guy at some point along with the guy with the mask that looks like a face.

I notice you were only able to compare them to Perry because its all you have on hand. I have requested some Steel First Samurai from the GF for christmas, I don't think she is getting me any but if does has I will post up comparison picture of Steel First, Perry, The Assault Group, Wargames Factory and Westwind so people can get a better idea of scale.
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: wkeyser on November 18, 2013, 09:49:13 AM
Great looking figures, however, I wish they where more dynamic, the static pose is just not great for Wargaming. A couple of generals clamly sending the troops into attack is fine, but how about some of those great looking figures in fighting poses!

William
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: carlos13th on November 18, 2013, 11:57:01 AM
I don't mind the lack of action shots. Almost everyone elses Samurai miniatures seem to be already in the fight so its nice to have some that are waiting for the fight to come to them or are not in the frey yet.

These are in action though.

(http://www.steelfistminiatures.com/images/products/11/600/1.jpg)

What I really want is a miniature midway through drawing his sword, I haven't been able to find it from any manufacturers. Not sure if its historically accurate but the image and the idea of a Samurai both drawing his sword and killing his enemy seems very characteristic of how we see the Samurai, at least in terms of duels. So I would love to see a Samurai doing something similar, possibly with the martial art Iadio as a reference. Like many sculptors use Kyudo as a reference when creating Samurai archers.
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Steel fist on November 18, 2013, 01:24:54 PM
Thanks for putting that up Carlos, I have tried the img way of posting but must have done something wrong...

Regarding a samurai drawing sword, my version of honda tadakatsu is drawing his katana but only a quarter of the blade is showing.

Also the new figures are mostly in advancing charging poses, I want some daimyo with their guards at the rear directing things, but the rest of the daimyo will be mounted charging.

Cheers
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: carlos13th on November 18, 2013, 02:07:32 PM
You're welcome.

I didnt notice that before, thank you. He's been added to my christmas wishlist.

Can I ask what Daimyo's you are planning to do in the future?
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Steel fist on November 18, 2013, 02:56:28 PM
in no particular order

Kato kiyomasa
Ii Naomasa
Fukishima Masanori
Shimazu Yoshihiro
Kuroda Nagamasa
Kuroda Yoshitaka
Sakai Tadatsugu
Mori Hidemoto
Chosokabe Moritchika
Kikawa Hiroie
Date Masamune
Otani Yoshitsugu
Shima Sakon
Uesugi Kagekatsu
Naoe Kantetsugu
Sanada Yukimura
Uesugi Kenshin
Takeda Kenshin
Yamamoto Kanesuke
Kato Yoshihaki
Oda Nobunaga

this list is actually considerably longer than this but my mind has gone blank..
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: OSHIROmodels on November 18, 2013, 03:14:28 PM
Are you going to do some of the Murakami clan as I have a small but expanding Sengoku 'pirate' force and having a couple of specific characters would be great  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: carlos13th on November 18, 2013, 03:25:40 PM
Looking forward to a bunch of these and plan on googling the rest. Thanks for the reply can't wait. 
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: THE CID on November 18, 2013, 07:14:11 PM
I've painted a few and they really are great figures. THE CID.
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: carlos13th on November 18, 2013, 07:43:11 PM
Mind posting the pictures Cid?
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Steel fist on November 18, 2013, 10:17:33 PM
murakami clan? i have not looked into the naval side, so im not yet familiar with them but it depends on if i like the armour really, would be a long way down the list though because of the others will need to come first. i would think you could use generic daimyo for them?

glad you like them cid i would also like to see pics.
cheers
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: OSHIROmodels on November 18, 2013, 11:09:15 PM
I can wait  :)

I can't remember his name but he has a whacking great scallop shell for a kabuto, and a tash  :D

cheers

James
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: carlos13th on November 18, 2013, 11:43:15 PM
This helmet?

(http://www.ny.us.emb-japan.go.jp/en/c/2009/0909/fe_samurai_01.jpg)
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Arteis on November 19, 2013, 05:46:41 AM
No doubt you've been asked many times before, but how do these stand in size and heft against other makers' ranges. 

In my case I'm most interested in the comparison with Kingsford, whose figures are quite large (just the way I like 'em!).  But I know many others will also wonder against Perry, North Star etc.

 
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: OSHIROmodels on November 19, 2013, 08:15:14 AM
This helmet?

(http://www.ny.us.emb-japan.go.jp/en/c/2009/0909/fe_samurai_01.jpg)

Nope. I'll see if I can dig a photo out of it later today  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: PF on November 19, 2013, 01:41:23 PM
I saw one really huge last week and thought it would be cool for a mini. Pictures weren't allowed and I can't find any on the internet but you can see it at 1:00 in the promo video of the expo:

http://www.mcjp.fr/francais/expositions/kanazawa-aux-sources-d-une-culture-765/kanazawa-aux-sources-d-une-culture

No idea if that's the helmet Jimbibbly is talking about but I like it. Now you know why WF samurai have those strong necks, kidding.

There are others including those ones:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/vvwvvwvvw/2714419316/
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Japanese_-_Helmet_%28%22Kawari_Kabuto%22%29_with_Conch_Shell_%28%22Horagai%22%29_Shape_-_Walters_51620_%282%29.jpg
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: WuZhuiQiu on November 22, 2013, 03:23:49 AM
There would also be Hattori Hanzo, whose helmet is in a certain temple, I believe.
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Byblos on November 22, 2013, 09:15:08 PM
I can wait  :)

I can't remember his name but he has a whacking great scallop shell for a kabuto, and a tash  :D

cheers

James

Murakami's kabuto

(http://i57.servimg.com/u/f57/13/09/54/58/muraka10.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=895&u=13095458)

(http://i57.servimg.com/u/f57/13/09/54/58/muraka11.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=896&u=13095458)
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: OSHIROmodels on November 22, 2013, 09:30:31 PM
That's the one, forgot to post it myself  ::)

cheers

James
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: THE CID on November 23, 2013, 07:31:40 AM
Here's one I did a while ago, photos not very good though. THE CID
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Byblos on November 23, 2013, 10:18:37 AM
It's a very good painting Cid !
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: carlos13th on November 23, 2013, 10:57:10 AM
Photo's a bit unfocused but the painting looks good. How hard was the lacing to paint?
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: THE CID on November 23, 2013, 02:00:26 PM
Painting samurai can be a bit daunting, I do tend to concentrate on one figure at a time. The lacing wasn't too bad as the detailing is very good on the figure. I don't prime with a full black cover, as I find it hard to pick out the fine detail. Instead I use a heavy black ink wash.
You're right the photo is out of focus, it's the only one I have as I've sold the figure. THE CID.
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: carlos13th on November 23, 2013, 08:06:19 PM
I am just about to start painting a Samurai Army and it is a little daunting as you say. I think I am going to batch paint the Ashigaru but do the samurai individually.
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: THE CID on November 23, 2013, 09:33:47 PM
Yes that's a good idea, if the army is for yourself, take your time, it's worth it.  THE CID.
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: carlos13th on November 23, 2013, 10:00:08 PM
I don't have much choice but to take my time atm. Looking forward to getting to painting though.
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Steel fist on November 24, 2013, 10:37:03 AM
I'm not planning on immediately making that figure, however that shell crest was on a number of helmets, so I'm going to make one as a separate crest.

The links PF has shown show mainly edo period kabuto, but apparently because wild looking elaborate kabuto were seen during the sengouku period, these can be hard to date,
Therefore I think that putting a few of the outlandish helmets in a sengouku miniature collection is perfectly plausable.

I believe that my miniatures would be more compatible with kingsford that perry as I hear kingsford are also larger than perry.
Thanks for showing the miniature CID I'm always happy to see examples of my miniatures painted by others, looks like you did a good job. I try to make the detail crisp as possible also I hope to have more painting guides ready soon. However if anyone is unsure about what kind of colours to use, look at the painted miniatures on my site as I have used accurate colour schemes.
Cheers
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: carlos13th on November 24, 2013, 03:56:14 PM
I think if you army is mostly Perry then using Steel Fist as generals and commanders works really well, they are a little larger which gives them more presence and makes them stand out a little more among other models without being out of scale.
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Byblos on November 24, 2013, 04:12:39 PM
I think if you army is mostly Perry then using Steel Fist as generals and commanders works really well, they are a little larger which gives them more presence and makes them stand out a little more among other models without being out of scale.

Idem !
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: olyreed on November 24, 2013, 06:27:55 PM
Here is one from today
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: carlos13th on November 24, 2013, 07:58:53 PM
That looks great. I like the unique Sashimo that the steel fist models have.

Is there any plan for Steel Fist to do mounted models?
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Byblos on November 24, 2013, 08:50:09 PM
Is there any plan for Steel Fist to do mounted models?

Hi carlos !

You could go here :

http://fistofsteel15c.blogspot.fr/2013/11/more-wips.html

 ;)
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: carlos13th on November 24, 2013, 08:58:45 PM
Thanks. Ill take that as a yes.
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Steel fist on November 29, 2013, 06:24:33 PM
Good to see those painted minis Byblos great work, I like the 3d sashimono on the other thread.

Regarding mounted samurai they will be released in January.

Cheers
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: carlos13th on December 13, 2013, 01:16:59 PM
Found a new favorite Kabuto.

(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/5a/f2/84/5af28434a6da625c3aa4699ddb835bd6.jpg)
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Arteis on December 14, 2013, 01:33:48 AM
Angry Birds?  The eagle on the Muppets?
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Wansui on December 15, 2013, 07:48:52 PM
My Gakken books on samurai heradlry and armor came in today,if you need any reference materials feel free to message me.
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Steel fist on December 15, 2013, 10:45:26 PM
That is a late edo armour representing a tengu, a mythical creature that was a man with birdlike features, there were said to be different variations of tengu, and there are lots of armours with tengu features. in fact one of my books has a edo period picture of miyamoto musashi being trained to fight by tengu warriors. If you like that armour you will like one of the miniatures in the next release...

Regarding books thanks for the offer of info wansui, but I too have the gakken books plus many others, they are a great source of info, pity the gakken books are in Japanese though.

Cheers
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Wansui on December 15, 2013, 11:01:51 PM
Good thing I can read kanji otherwise it would be a much harder endeavor lol
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: carlos13th on December 16, 2013, 02:31:36 AM
That is a late edo armour representing a tengu, a mythical creature that was a man with birdlike features, there were said to be different variations of tengu, and there are lots of armours with tengu features. in fact one of my books has a edo period picture of miyamoto musashi being trained to fight by tengu warriors. If you like that armour you will like one of the miniatures in the next release...

Regarding books thanks for the offer of info wansui, but I too have the gakken books plus many others, they are a great source of info, pity the gakken books are in Japanese though.

Cheers

Thanks for the infomation, I didn't know the context.

When is the next release? January was it?
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Wansui on December 16, 2013, 04:49:55 AM
Do you plan on adding this version of Uesugi Kenshin's armor?

(http://i.imgur.com/4DXSpfk.jpg)

Is it possible to sell some standards separate as many daimyo's used the same sort of o/ko uma jirushi such as giant war fans,streamers(I don't know what else to call them),and 3d ones?
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: carlos13th on December 16, 2013, 05:53:08 AM
That armour is fantastic. Its the one I like the most out of  the Kenshin ones I have seen.
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Byblos on December 16, 2013, 08:50:34 AM
Anyone know where i could find the Gakken on the Mori clan !?

Or Gakken about Samouraļ castles !?

 :D
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Steel fist on December 16, 2013, 09:02:50 PM
Wansui if you can read kanji I may ask if you can identify certain armours in future if I get stuck, fortunately my brother reads hiragana and katakana, but not kanji, and gakken books seem to mostly be kanji.

Regarding that Kenshin armour, it is the most impressive, i have a book that shows it from several angles and the face is different on eack of its three sides, i also like the molten lava affect on the armour. but I'm going to be focusing on sekighara lords for now.

Lots of the best samurai books are expensive and hard to find, but I have found lots come on eBay periodically.
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Wansui on December 16, 2013, 09:16:45 PM
Wansui if you can read kanji I may ask if you can identify certain armours in future if I get stuck, fortunately my brother reads hiragana and katakana, but not kanji, and gakken books seem to mostly be kanji.

Regarding that Kenshin armour, it is the most impressive, i have a book that shows it from several angles and the face is different on eack of its three sides, i also like the molten lava affect on the armour. but I'm going to be focusing on sekighara lords for now.

Lots of the best samurai books are expensive and hard to find, but I have found lots come on eBay periodically.
I can read kanji thanks to my Chinese heritage lol

I'm fortunate that some of my relatives or friends live in Japan therefore they help me order and send me the books.

In my honest opinion the Gakken books on Ebay are way overpriced.
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: Wansui on December 16, 2013, 09:39:55 PM
Anyone know where i could find the Gakken on the Mori clan !?

Or Gakken about Samouraļ castles !?

 :D
Look these up on Japanese Amazon

There's the Mori clan 毛利戦記―大内、尼子を屠った元就の権謀 (歴史群像シリーズ) [ムック]
There's Mori Motonari 毛利元就―西国の雄、天下への大知略 (歴史群像シリーズ) 学習研究社

There are plethora of books on castle I will list 2 that got high ratings on Amazon.
日本100名城公式ガイドブック―日本の文化遺産「城」を見に行こう (歴史群像シリーズ) [単行本]
戦国の城 (歴史群像シリーズ特別編集) [ムック]

I can't vouch for the credibility of these books as I don't own them...
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: carlos13th on December 16, 2013, 09:57:19 PM
Wansui if you can read kanji I may ask if you can identify certain armours in future if I get stuck, fortunately my brother reads hiragana and katakana, but not kanji, and gakken books seem to mostly be kanji.

Regarding that Kenshin armour, it is the most impressive, i have a book that shows it from several angles and the face is different on eack of its three sides, i also like the molten lava affect on the armour. but I'm going to be focusing on sekighara lords for now.

Lots of the best samurai books are expensive and hard to find, but I have found lots come on eBay periodically.

Which book is it that shows that armour? if you don't mind sharing.
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: OSHIROmodels on December 17, 2013, 03:49:44 PM

There are plethora of books on castle I will list 2 that got high ratings on Amazon.
日本100名城公式ガイドブック―日本の文化遺産「城」を見に行こう (歴史群像シリーズ) [単行本]
戦国の城 (歴史群像シリーズ特別編集) [ムック]

I can't vouch for the credibility of these books as I don't own them...

I've got them both, plus about 17 others and it depends on what you want. They are useful certainly but only cover certain aspects of castle construction.

cheers

James
Title: Re: new samurai by steel fist miniatures
Post by: rokurota on December 18, 2013, 03:10:57 PM
Anyone know where i could find the Gakken on the Mori clan !?

Or Gakken about Samouraļ castles !?

 :D

http://www.hlj.com/ They have a lot of Gakken books.