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Title: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on September 09, 2013, 11:13:50 PM
As there are so many great pulp planes out there, I thought it might be fun to put a 1 stop list of planes that work with 28mm figures. Please add pics of planes you have next to rulers and miniatures as that is the sort of info I like to see when considering purchasing a plane.

My scale minis are Gangster by Copplestone, Pilot by Pulp & Aviatrix by Artizan

Ryan PT trainer
1/48 plastic kit by Testors
easy to find
easy to build
cheap
it comes with floats as well if you want to make a seaplane
(http://imageshack.us/a/img819/4505/xraj.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img689/3522/z0kc.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img818/2769/occ4.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img197/7905/w4tq.jpg)
I need to finish this badly, I started it here; http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=25563.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=25563.0)

Northrop Gamma
diecast bank by Ertl for Wings of Texaco
easy to find
not too expensive
No other version of this great plane in scale
(http://imageshack.us/a/img21/9906/pji9.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img829/91/g5en.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img545/3264/14ii.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img194/2690/m1wl.jpg)

Lockheed Electra Jr
plastic toy kit by NewRay
cheap
easy to build but the nose is wrong and parts dont fit well
(http://imageshack.us/a/img593/7934/7yhc.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img21/1128/0o9i.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img198/6858/wi3r.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img694/3417/rdvn.jpg)
There is an excellent Electra Jr die cast for Wings of Texaco #17
William Bros also do a 1/53 great kit of the Electra Amelia flew

Lockheed Vega
diecast bank by Ertl, available in many paint schemes
a tad oversized I think
cheap
(http://imageshack.us/a/img843/5606/wzuq.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img594/2913/fmx4.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img194/3050/nvuw.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img29/4670/1ijm.jpg)

Lockheed Vega
1/48 plastic kit by AMT/Ertl
easy to find, relatively cheap, available with floats instead of wheels
I think it is a horrible kit that I never finished and will eventually turn into a wreck.
Pics with the diecast Vega for scale
(http://imageshack.us/a/img822/8154/1q1v.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img199/2960/jgec.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img850/1386/n25k.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img46/5737/q52a.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Braz on September 09, 2013, 11:37:06 PM
Great idea! A much needed resource. Already helpful. Thanks.
No pics as yet as my planes are still shrink wrapped (Mirage Hobby 1/48 Lublin R.XIII Ter / Hydro  and 1/48 Lindberg OA9 Goose).
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: d phipps on September 10, 2013, 02:15:32 AM
Great idea! A much needed resource. Already helpful. Thanks.
No pics as yet as my planes are still shrink wrapped (Mirage Hobby 1/48 Lublin R.XIII Ter / Hydro  and 1/48 Lindberg OA9 Goose).

Oh, those are great ones, Braz. I want more seaplanes...  ;D

I'll get some of our planes posted too, and I'll try to include the new Vehicle Profiles for planes. I'm really happy with how the new airplane rules are playtesting.



THANKS
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on September 10, 2013, 10:00:22 AM
Great idea for a thread, Amalric. I am currently working on a FineMolds Curtiss R3C-0. It's a lovely kit and I'll post a photo when it's finished. All my kits are 1/48 at present, although the Trimotor listed below does not have a scale listed on the box!

Still boxed:

FineMolds Savoia S.21F
Testors Travel Air Mystery Ship
Testors Gee Bee Racer
Testors PT20 Trainer
Revell Junkers JU52/3M Civil Version (really looking forward to doing this one!)
Monogram Ford Trimotor (Antarctic version)
Modelcraft Noorduyn UC64A Norseman
Lindberg OA9 Goose (to be painted as Cutter's Goose)
Smer Macchi Castoldi M.C.72

For secret rocket base:

Pegasus V2 x two
Dragon Ba349A Natter and launcher
Tamiya V1, manned and unmanned versions

Wanted in 1/48:

Macchi M33, anyone know of one in 1/48 scale?

Might be a while before you see photos of this lot!  lol
Bit of a plastic mountain!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: starkadder on September 10, 2013, 11:12:27 AM
One of my favourites, the Glencoe Models Republic RC.3 Seabee

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/paulhelfrich/RC3Box.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: mysteriousbill on September 10, 2013, 08:01:00 PM
Here are some links to some of Pulp Airplane banks. It is weird that they make a airplane bank of the Lockheed Orion and the Lockheed Air Express in 1/43 or 1/46 but the Vega is closer to 1/35 or 1/32

http://mysteriousbill.weebly.com/2/post/2011/05/stop-buying-airplanes-bill.html

http://mysteriousbill.weebly.com/2/post/2011/03/lockheed-air-express.html

http://mysteriousbill.weebly.com/2/post/2010/08/airplane-models-suitable-for-2528mm-gaming.html
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on September 10, 2013, 11:17:51 PM
Thanks for the post all.

Bill, thanks for your scale pics!
The Wings of Texaco 1936 Keystone Loening has been on my buy it list for a while.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: d phipps on September 11, 2013, 08:43:06 AM
These are the only two I've finished painting so far...


1/48 scale Albatross by Revell, with a Copplestone Castings pilot --
(http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o665/pulpalley/100_5474_zps7b03d400.jpg)



1/77 scale Ford Trimotor by Revell --
(http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o665/pulpalley/AAR/09-13%20Perilous%20Island%202/100_5665_zps2c399d59.jpg)



THANKS
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: ErikB on September 11, 2013, 09:59:52 PM
Awesome!  Looks like 1/48 is the way to go with the bigger, "heroic" 28mm minis. 

Really, really like the pulp theme, too.

I'm working on a modified PBY Catalina for the "Hannah Humperdink" adventure stories I tell my little daughter at bedtime.  She has the minis (mostly Copplestone) for Hannah and her group of adventurers.  Now, they need their airplane.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on September 11, 2013, 10:46:16 PM
I'm working on a modified PBY Catalina for the "Hannah Humperdink" adventure stories I tell my little daughter at bedtime.  She has the minis (mostly Copplestone) for Hannah and her group of adventurers.  Now, they need their airplane.

I can't wait to see it.
The Catalina is such a sweet looking plane.
Sound's like you're a great Dad to, getm hooked young!
Right Dave?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: MatrixGamer on September 12, 2013, 01:29:17 AM
Those are real cool!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: joekano on September 12, 2013, 03:18:48 AM
Great resource-thanks!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: pacarat on September 12, 2013, 03:32:18 PM
Here's one of my recent acquisitions. 1/48 scale.

Still in the box at this point. What is really cool is that there are two models in the kit.


(http://home.comcast.net/~pacarat/pics/misc/pulp/AUTOGIRO- Lo Res_25.jpg)


Have some thinking to do on paint schemes...
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: bobblezbob on September 13, 2013, 07:44:50 AM
Anyone know of any good Pulpy looking plane in 1/48 that would be suitable for Spanish Civil War gaming of pilot down and a rescue mission please ? Cheap and cheerful model as I would model it as crashed.

Many thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: d phipps on September 13, 2013, 09:02:25 AM
@ pacarat - very cool! thats going to look awesome.


@ bobblezbob - 
Anyone know of any good Pulpy looking plane in 1/48 that would be suitable for Spanish Civil War gaming of pilot down and a rescue mission please ? Cheap and cheerful model as I would model it as crashed.

Hawker Fury might be a good choice, and you can find them fairly cheap. Here's one on eBay --
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lindberg-Hawker-Fury-1-48-Scale-Kit-/261270167327?pt=Model_Kit_US&hash=item3cd4ea5f1f
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Daeothar on September 13, 2013, 11:52:40 AM
Simply too pulpy for its own good; the Autogyro from the Lupin III anime movie. I never saw it, but I once saw the kit on the web and wanted it badly, as its Art Deco lines are just awesome.

However, as it turned out, the manufacturer has long since folded and this kit is no longer produced and hence hideously expensive. A couple of weeks ago though, I managed to bag one on Ebay for € 15,-, which was a steal! It's being built right now. very simple kit (wings and fins are all one-piece affairs, making them very hefty and sturdy) and I'm really enjoying myself with this kit:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Lupin-III-Autogyro-1-48-Gunze-Sangyo-/00/s/NDkxWDEyNzY=/z/xRAAAOxy14VROLIN/$(KGrHqV,!rMFENYMzBOTBROLIMtz,g~~60_12.JPG)


I fell in love with the lines of this plane; the Heinkel HE-70. Originally a mail plane, used as a light bomber by the Condor Legion in Spain and eventually evolved into the well known HE-111. Was built with a Magnesium airframe, which was light, but also quite volatile when hit. ::) Still; those lines are just masterful.

AZ models made a limited run plastic kit in 1/48, which I still covet. Might not be too versatile for use in-game, but it's just one of those wannahaves:

(http://img.1001modelkits.com/38110-410392-thickbox/heinkel-he-70-148-az-models-m48050.jpg)


And then the Focke Achgelis Fa 223 Drache; I have two of those in WIP status, to fly my Ahnenerbe combat teams around the world to harass my player group as they pulp their way around ancient sites. Models are Special Hobby 1/48 ones:

(http://www.scalemates.com/products/img/2/7/2/112272-10941.jpg?nr=sh48020&company=special%20hobby&name=focke%20achgelis%20fa%20223%20drache)

I find VTOLs to be very useful on the table, as they are not just eyecandy and/or objectives, but can also be used to fly around...
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: jp1885 on September 13, 2013, 08:40:33 PM
This is a cracking resource - bravo gents!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on February 23, 2014, 05:21:53 PM
Just bumping this to ask - have we got a list anywhere of what pulp planes DO exist in 1/56 or 1/48? 1/72 planes can work, but I think they really do look way too small.

It's sort of funny that my figure and vehicle scale is closer to 1/48, but my building scale is much smaller. The larger the real-world item, the smaller it winds up being on the tabletop.

I would really like to look at 1/56 or even 1/60 planes as they seem the best compromise between not taking up too much play area and not being so small that they're unbelieveable, but there's almost no airplane models in those scales. I guess when I get around to building a plane, I might just wind up getting paper plans and recaling them for scratchbuild, though I don't know much about doing that sort of thing at all.

Maybe beggars can't be choosers, but I'm not sure there are any 1/56 models made period. Pretty much any widely used transport built prior to 1933 would work - Boeing 80, Ford Trimotor, Fokker F.VII, Junkers Ju 52, etc. 

As a small side question, has anyone ever built the Fokker F.VII trimotor (my preferred Pulp plane) 1/72 kit or have pictures of it next to minis?

I know Dave had a 1/77 Ford trimotor coin bank (which is a different plane, but is similar), but crucially I think my larger minis would not fit under the wings of that model, which would be huge loss of play area.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Ballardian on February 24, 2014, 04:24:20 PM
Lord Snapcase, I believe you were after a Macchi M33 in 1/48, the only one I know of in that scale is by Brach Model (I'm afraid I don't know its current availability).

Brach Model BM-W04

Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on February 24, 2014, 05:00:26 PM
Thanks, Ballardian, I shall start tracking one down.  ;D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on February 24, 2014, 05:26:35 PM
Started searching and no M33 yet, but I found a 1/48 Macchi M5 on eBay and I had to buy it!

When it arrives I'll post a picture of the kit.

(and when I came back to this thread I saw the Focke Achgelis Fa 223 Drache and I had to have one of those as well!)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on February 25, 2014, 12:32:12 PM
(and when I came back to this thread I saw the Focke Achgelis Fa 223 Drache and I had to have one of those as well!)

Milord....if you are still chasing up this lovely piece, I believe I have 4 or 5 of them.

'tis funny that I have just seen this thread as Mads and I have just built 4 planes for our airfleet and have another 20-30 kits to go, including a 1/48 Ju52 and a Catalina.  A number of flying wings both German and American are also waiting to be made.

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on February 25, 2014, 01:44:59 PM
Milord....if you are still chasing up this lovely piece, I believe I have 4 or 5 of them.

'tis funny that I have just seen this thread as Mads and I have just built 4 planes for our airfleet and have another 20-30 kits to go, including a 1/48 Ju52 and a Catalina.  A number of flying wings both German and American are also waiting to be made.

Pete

Peter, I wasn't very clear about the Drache. I ordered an M5 and a Drache yesterday. However, if I feel the need for another one after I've made the first one I will drop you a PM. Many thanks for your kind offer.

The kit I'm looking for now is made by Brach, the 1/48 version of the Macchi M33, if you have one of those?

By the way, I have the civilian version of the Ju52 in 1/48 waiting to be made as well. It looks like a beautiful kit.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on February 25, 2014, 01:48:18 PM
No worries...
The Ju is lovely but I am DREADING cleaning all that corrugated plating of the mold lines :o

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on February 25, 2014, 01:51:42 PM
Yes, it does look a bit daunting. I might save mine for when I retire! I'll be less stressed then!  lol
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on February 25, 2014, 02:16:38 PM
Somehow I missed this thread!  :o

Of course I want to contribute my multi-purpose amphibious plane: Grumman J2F "Duck" in 1/48 scale by Czech manufacturer Classic Airframes: http://www.internetmodeler.com/2001/july/first-looks/ca_duck.htm

I chose that one, because it is still relatively small, can transport some passenger and luggage and can travel over land and sea alike. That makes it useful for so many nice and pulpy scenarios on remote islands where naked dinosaurs and carnivore Amazons (or was it vice versa?) prey on daring explorers or each other...

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/FigurenfotosMichi1025-2.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/FigurenfotosMichi1026-2.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/FigurenfotosMichi1027-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/FigurenfotosMichi1028-2.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/FigurenfotosMichi1029.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on February 25, 2014, 02:20:11 PM
No worries...
The Ju is lovely but I am DREADING cleaning all that corrugated plating of the mold lines :o

Pete

I know there is a die cast version in 1/48 as well as a civilian He 111...
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on February 25, 2014, 02:46:25 PM
That Grumman 'Duck' is superb. I love the way you've done the weathering, brilliant!  :-*

Love the name too.  lol
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on February 25, 2014, 02:47:38 PM
I know there is a die cast version in 1/48 as well as a civilian He 111...

Any idea where these treasures can be found?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on February 25, 2014, 02:59:58 PM
Any idea where these treasures can be found?

Franklin Mint on Ebay
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Franklin-Mint-Heinkel-He-111-Lufthansa-Leipzig-B11E313-NEU-/271252221132
http://www.ebay.de/itm/FRANKLIN-MINT-ARMOUR-JUNKERS-JU-52-STAB-IV-KGZB-BALKAN-1-48-OVP/380850148999?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222003%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140107083420%26meid%3D5087065515930856978%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D20140107083420%26rk%3D0%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D201025579083#ht_661wt_1191
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on February 25, 2014, 03:08:36 PM
Thanks, looking on eBay now.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on February 25, 2014, 05:37:46 PM
The Junkers F.13 is a favorite of mine. It was available from 1919. Here's the wiki article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_F.13

The first few images in this google image search are of the Franklin Mint 1:48 scale model of the F-13, float plane version:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Junkers+f-13+beni&rlz=1C1EODB_enUS567US568&espv=210&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=AdUMU9ipN4_voASGzIDwAQ&ved=0CCYQsAQ&biw=1391&bih=747

Franklin Mint produced at least three earlier 1:48 scale wheeled versions of the Junkers F.13, but I imagine they are hard to find now.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on February 25, 2014, 05:44:13 PM
Yes, that's a good Pulp plane. I do like the float plane version. I see that Revell make a 1/72 kit but I can't find a 1/48?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on February 25, 2014, 05:56:26 PM
This made not be totally new, but still worth posting the link;
ARC or Aircraft Resource Centre has hundreds of model airplanes.

See this link and go to Gallery.

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/

Tony
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on February 25, 2014, 07:44:35 PM
That's really useful, thanks.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on February 25, 2014, 11:41:53 PM
It turns out that Blitzkrieg Miniatures are planning a line of 1/56 aircraft. I assume they'll be concentrating on WWII models (they have a Stuka up as a preview), but I emailed them to see if they maybe plan other planes that might be usable for the interwar period.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on February 26, 2014, 12:04:38 AM
Michi, Love the Duck!
The AAR where it lands next to the Doreen is a classic!

The Junkers F.13 is a favorite of mine. It was available from 1919. ...Franklin Mint produced at least three earlier 1:48 scale wheeled versions of the Junkers F.13, but I imagine they are hard to find now.
I love this plane to and wish I could buy a Franklin Mint one.

Here are two more I wish I had the cash to purchase;

1/48ish diecast Twin Beech
(http://p2.la-img.com/460/17386/5879021_1_l.jpg)
look on ebay for John Deere Twin Beech
20-30$ + S&H

and this beauty, a diecast 1/50ish Electra Jr that is sweet
(http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/13679/14182687_1.jpg?v=8CF75E533018EF0)
it comes in silver paint and a limited edition polish metal  :-*
look on ebay for wings of texaco 17 lockheed electra
$50 on up + S&H

I think both of these are perfect for pulp airfield, smugglers, etc.

Also, here are a pair of rocket planes WIP from http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=62140.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=62140.0)

Thanks for all the kind words.
Here it is with a bit of greenstuff and the figure for Lonestar, the Cowboy of the Skys!
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/41/i4t2.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/62/2r9q.jpg)
Lonestar is the famous Lobster Johnson fig with a hat from the Reaper Bones Shadow figure.
Now for some paint.

And with all these do gooders rocketing around, there needs to be a bad guy to fight [or Bad Girl  ;)]
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/577/s0sj.jpg)
The Red Baroness and her infamous Flying Wing!
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/202/7nv9.jpg)
Its just the 1/48 testors Komet sans rudder to give it that wingish look.

Amalric

Winglets?
Gents, thanks for the idea.  ;D
(http://imageshack.com/a/img547/4195/7alq.jpg)
(http://imageshack.com/a/img834/913/pvr1.jpg)
Now I got to paint them  :?
So much to paint and so little time.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: General on February 26, 2014, 12:34:19 AM
Wow!  Gives me some great ideas.  Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: section 8 on February 26, 2014, 05:54:02 AM
A couple of 1930s 1/48 scale planes I recently acquired. Still waiting for decent weather to prime and paint them.

Curtiss P6E
(http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae297/kirksmithicus/1930%20Civil%20War/Airplanes/P6E_zps5994a35c.jpg)

Gee Bee model R race plane
(http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae297/kirksmithicus/1930%20Civil%20War/Airplanes/gbee3_zps5285a3cd.jpg)


My 1930's air power (http://rubbler-rouser.blogspot.com/2014/01/1930s-airpower.html) blog post for my VACW game. The models are perfectly suited for pulp games too, and really cheap. The struts on the P6 were a pain though.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Constable Bertrand on February 26, 2014, 06:17:31 AM
Fine Molds do a nice range of 1/48 sea planes from the Studio Ghibli film "Porco Rosso"

I've got the SAVOIA S.21 Seaplane
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDUwWDYwMA==/z/9ogAAMXQoYJSHt2t/$T2eC16FHJIIFHJB+p6(RBSHt2tHL4!~~60_3.JPG)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fine-Molds-FG1-SAVOIA-S-21-Seaplane-PORCO-ROSSO-Crimson-Pig-1-48-scale-kit-/191050496427

And theres the CURTISS R3C-0 Seaplane
(http://i22.ebayimg.com/07/i/001/38/de/6747_12.JPG)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fine-Molds-FG2-CURTISS-R3C-0-Seaplane-PORCO-ROSSO-1-48-scale-kit-/321333823976

*images from ebay

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: pocoloco on February 26, 2014, 06:20:45 AM
Great thread!

I have the Testors Gee Bee Racer and Curtiss Racer for my Pulp Adventure plans... though only Gee Bee has been partly painted so far.

edit: forgot to mention that I do plan to add machine-gun pods to them :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on February 26, 2014, 06:37:57 AM
Boeing P-26A Peashooter 1/64th scale die cast: http://www.aviation-models.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AM&Product_Code=PS5560&Category_Code=PSMWW2
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IEn2IlqGOG0/S5KIHXsC4dI/AAAAAAAACz0/lSYxZfK0OLI/s1600/Miniaturenfotos,+Originale+158.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IEn2IlqGOG0/S5KIi0LIGCI/AAAAAAAAC0E/7lgpNhfXHqI/s1600/Miniaturenfotos,+Originale+156.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IEn2IlqGOG0/S5KIjG7eGDI/AAAAAAAAC0M/m-dxPXFOtvs/s1600/Miniaturenfotos,+Originale+155.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IEn2IlqGOG0/S5KI1XyEDgI/AAAAAAAAC00/1wb2Gdqiysk/s1600/Miniaturenfotos,+Originale+146.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on February 26, 2014, 06:38:34 AM
There is some more great stuff here. Those FineMolds kits are really good. I'm just finishing the Curtiss RC3-0 and it is a really well-made kit. I've just got to put the transfers on and I've got a propeller from the USA that looks like it's whirling round (if I paint it right!) but I can't remember the company name. I'll post it here when I find the website.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on February 26, 2014, 06:44:02 AM
It's called  Prop Blur  (http://www.propblur.com/) and they have a UK distributor as well now.

Michi, that black and white shot is superb (well it's all superb). How did you do the mist effect for the photo?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Blackwolf on February 27, 2014, 06:08:02 AM
A couple of additions to the list:

Minicraft's Skyrocket (as in Blackhawk Squadron).

Testor's Grumman Goose.

Cheers

Wolfie
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on February 27, 2014, 07:46:26 AM
Michi, that black and white shot is superb (well it's all superb). How did you do the mist effect for the photo?

You can call it a lucky shot. All pictures were taken outside on a winter evening with snow all over and still snowing. I carved some runway in the snow, put everything in position and laid flat on my belly on a field. The one photo below was shot from the edge of the "runway" with the camera in the snow. It´s simply the snow wall in the foreground that is out of focus and therefore blurs the picture.  :D

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IEn2IlqGOG0/S5KI1XyEDgI/AAAAAAAAC00/1wb2Gdqiysk/s1600/Miniaturenfotos,+Originale+146.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: d phipps on February 27, 2014, 10:21:23 AM
You can call it a lucky shot. All pictures were taken outside on a winter evening with snow all over and still snowing. I carved some runway in the snow, put everything in position and laid flat on my belly on a field. The one photo below was shot from the edge of the "runway" with the camera in the snow. It´s simply the snow wall in the foreground that is out of focus and therefore blurs the picture.  :D

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IEn2IlqGOG0/S5KI1XyEDgI/AAAAAAAAC00/1wb2Gdqiysk/s1600/Miniaturenfotos,+Originale+146.jpg)


Looks great!  :-* :-*
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on February 27, 2014, 01:38:25 PM
Quote
It´s simply the snow wall in the foreground that is out of focus and therefore blurs the picture.

Now that you explain it, I can see it, but it's still a great shot! It looks like Dastardly, Klunk and Zilly are getting ready to fly a dawn patrol!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Gun bunny on February 28, 2014, 11:41:26 AM
Boeing P-26A Peashooter 1/64th scale die cast: http://www.aviation-models.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AM&Product_Code=PS5560&Category_Code=PSMWW2
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IEn2IlqGOG0/S5KIHXsC4dI/AAAAAAAACz0/lSYxZfK0OLI/s1600/Miniaturenfotos,+Originale+158.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IEn2IlqGOG0/S5KIi0LIGCI/AAAAAAAAC0E/7lgpNhfXHqI/s1600/Miniaturenfotos,+Originale+156.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IEn2IlqGOG0/S5KIjG7eGDI/AAAAAAAAC0M/m-dxPXFOtvs/s1600/Miniaturenfotos,+Originale+155.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IEn2IlqGOG0/S5KI1XyEDgI/AAAAAAAAC00/1wb2Gdqiysk/s1600/Miniaturenfotos,+Originale+146.jpg)




is the guy in the center, the one with the c-96 looking pistol "snidely whiplash" because that is what i asked myself when i saw him.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on February 28, 2014, 11:55:22 AM
is the guy in the center, the one with the c-96 looking pistol "snidely whiplash" because that is what i asked myself when i saw him.

No, I think the sculptor wanted to do a NOT-Dick Dastardly...

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oUbo98eXgDk/Th9sYeLZ0HI/AAAAAAAAAd4/bnQZZnJdCKw/s1600/dick+dastardly.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on February 28, 2014, 12:11:37 PM
I'd like to volunteer for that dangerous mission, Sir, and become a member of the Vulture Squadron!  lol
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: wolfen on March 01, 2014, 08:00:38 PM
1935 Spartan Executive

With a painted and based Shadow from Bob Murch

(http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo203/foyt21/IMAG2430_1_zpsguvgytro.jpg)
(http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo203/foyt21/IMAG2431_1_zps02y2lxvw.jpg)
With an unpainted Bob Murch pilot

(http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo203/foyt21/IMAG2434_1_zpswb07rtdq.jpg)
(http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo203/foyt21/IMAG2435_1_zpsm93anrhx.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on March 01, 2014, 08:02:15 PM
Wow, looks good!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Rufus on March 03, 2014, 09:01:51 PM
When I was a kid, we build a few planes. Turnes out I still have some of those unassembled lying around. This for instance:

(http://www.pulpdogg.com/Images/Spitfire.jpg)

I don't know how well it scales with the few pulp figures I have, but I will assemble it at some point. Its only lying around 25-30 years by now. Might as well build it.

Also - @Michi - how did you paint the googles of these airmen?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on March 03, 2014, 10:44:29 PM
Also - @Michi - how did you paint the googles of these airmen?

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IEn2IlqGOG0/S5KIi0LIGCI/AAAAAAAAC0E/7lgpNhfXHqI/s1600/Miniaturenfotos,+Originale+156.jpg)

It´s the gem painting method, I chose blue for the basic colour, but green, turquoise, grey and brown work as well. Darker colour on the upper portion of the "glass", lighter colour on the lower portion, blend as smooth as you can.
Add a dot of white to the upper edge and finally gloss varnish it.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: section 8 on March 04, 2014, 06:48:43 AM
I just noticed the Spartan Executive. :o Was wondering who makes it? In my VACW game the Black Legion has taken over the Tulsa airport as well as the Spartan School and aircraft plant across the street.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: wolfen on March 04, 2014, 02:54:48 PM
I just noticed the Spartan Executive. :o Was wondering who makes it? In my VACW game the Black Legion has taken over the Tulsa airport as well as the Spartan School and aircraft plant across the street.

It's a Phillips 66 metal coin bank. I got it on eBay for around $20.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Rufus on March 04, 2014, 07:24:11 PM
Thanks Michi. That sounds a little over my skills right now :). But I'll keep that in mind for the future.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on March 04, 2014, 10:19:29 PM
That Spartan looks great!


Rufus, you may find 1/72 too small for 28mm gaming.
I personally prefer 1/48ish for my planes and cars.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Rufus on March 06, 2014, 09:47:26 AM
Yeah probably Amalric. But I'll assemble the plane anyway to see how it looks. Besides - the dozen Models of Yesteryear cars I bought off Ebay recently at 1:43 seem entirely too big for my small collection of pulp figures :).
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on March 06, 2014, 12:39:52 PM
Yeah probably Amalric. But I'll assemble the plane anyway to see how it looks. Besides - the dozen Models of Yesteryear cars I bought off Ebay recently at 1:43 seem entirely too big for my small collection of pulp figures :).

Hey Rufus I have a bunch of unpainted 1/72 pulp figures if you are interested.

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Johnnytodd on March 06, 2014, 01:52:02 PM
This topic is inspiring me to start a new plane project.  I'm a big supporter of 1/56 as the best scale for 28mm. 1/48 looks too big and 1/72 way too small. Choices of pre-made models are few so I built my own from scratch.  Its not as difficult as you might think.  Plans for just about every plane can be found online and especially here:  http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/index.php?cat=2

(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac297/grendels_father/12281.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Rufus on March 06, 2014, 03:07:02 PM
Hey Rufus I have a bunch of unpainted 1/72 pulp figures if you are interested.

Pete

Thanks, but no thanks. I'll stay with the 28mm for the moment.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on March 07, 2014, 01:25:13 AM
(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac297/grendels_father/12281.jpg)

 :o
I'm without words... but I'll try;
Damn fine model making!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on March 07, 2014, 01:11:24 PM
That is a FANTASTIC scratch build :o :o :o

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: blacksoilbill on March 07, 2014, 01:14:53 PM
Respect! That is one fine piece of work.

Bill.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: section 8 on March 08, 2014, 08:02:24 AM
Thanks for the info Wolfen, will check it out.

Nice looking plane, great job. Not sure if I could manage.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on March 08, 2014, 01:13:37 PM
Its not as difficult as you might think.  Plans for just about every plane can be found online and especially here:  http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/index.php?cat=2

That is where I got the plans for my China Clipper....it is a LONG slow build as I have had to rescale all of the dimensions. It is the build I work on when I am feeling REALLY happy, awake and motivated...so as you can guess it does not come out much :-[

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on March 19, 2014, 06:02:51 PM
Blitzkrieg miniatures replied to my inquiry and said they are actually soliciting suggestions for aircraft to make in 1:56!

Keeping in mind that they are a primarily WWII manufacturer, I put up a thread in the WWII subforum to fish for suggestions to send off to Blitzkreig: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=64663.0

Speak up if you want 1:56 aircraft!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: pistolpete on March 27, 2014, 03:10:02 PM
here's the plane i (more or less) just finished.  it's a williams brothers 1:53 lockheed electra i found on ebay for $20. it's a royal pain to get together so be forewarned if you follow along.
shown with reaper miniature for scale.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/vbcOXwzNFLqR6odfvpY5Y0IbVp6ubro-ferlUFY79bo=w214-h211-p-no)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-BegBHHvrdoa1IHsrHCeOg7ilRaGrRAR7g79fAzZB9U=w204-h188-p-no)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/9QucPb3ZJvHgUhT6yshDkaj6dOqj9ns6Z2jD_oJbaTc=w118-h209-p-no)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on March 27, 2014, 05:19:36 PM
I saw that Williams kit in one of the local hobby shops and was tempted, but then I saw online that it was a terrible, cheap kit of very low quality.

Funny, that doesn't actually look quite 1:53 (the listed scale on the box).

One interesting option I've looked at for a "larger" transport plane is an Airspeed Envoy in 1:48. The Envoy was a pretty small plane in terms of length/wingspan, so it might fit on a table better, even in a comparitively big scale like 1:48.

I'd still prefer a Ford/Fokker Trimotor though, just because the raised wings leave you the maximum amount of table space for figures.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on March 28, 2014, 12:09:11 AM
Pete, great job. Thank you for the info about quality of the kit, I to had been tempted.

I'd still prefer a Ford/Fokker Trimotor though, just because the raised wings leave you the maximum amount of table space for figures.

I've been wanting one in 1/48 for years!
Also, it's iconic for the era and thus perfect for pulp.
Great thought about the raised wings, that hadn't occurred to me.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: former user on April 18, 2014, 08:03:26 AM
myabe someone is interested in these

http://www.ebay.de/itm/LUBLIN-R-XIII-D-von-Mirage-HOBBY-in-1-48-/291121947576?pt=Standmodelle_Baus%C3%A4tze&hash=item43c83863b8

http://www.ebay.de/itm/3-x-Smer-Raritaten-PIPER-ex-Heller-FIAT-CR-42-MACCHI-CASTOLDI-in-1-48-/231203506776?pt=Standmodelle_Baus%C3%A4tze&hash=item35d4cd8a58

the Lublin is somenthing I never heard of before, looks cool
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on April 18, 2014, 08:55:38 AM
I've got the Macchi but I've never seen the Lublin before, thanks for the link. The Lublin does definitely look cool.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on April 18, 2014, 09:08:22 AM
I've just had a look and there is a float plane version of it as well.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: former user on April 18, 2014, 10:49:25 AM
while we are at it, anyone interested in taking these from me?
this is not actually a sale offer, I am just asking.
I am not sure, I find them rather large - 1/48
I might keep them after all
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on April 18, 2014, 11:31:55 AM
[quote while we are at it, anyone interested in taking these from me?
this is not actually a sale offer, I am just asking.
I am not sure, I find them rather large - 1/48
I might keep them after all [/quote]

1\48th is ok for 28mm  ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on April 18, 2014, 11:42:29 AM
 ;)

Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on April 18, 2014, 11:52:23 AM
I bought this one the other day.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on April 18, 2014, 11:58:16 AM
Quote
I bought this one the other day.

goo goo g'joob.   lol
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on April 18, 2014, 02:31:09 PM
If you really don't want 'em, I'd be interested in the first one.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on April 19, 2014, 09:03:26 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: von der Tann on April 19, 2014, 09:12:02 AM
I bought this one the other day.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=58045.0;attach=19968)

Do you have any size comparision pics you would be willing to share? I'd appreciate it very much. I am thinking of getting one too but I am a bit unsure atm. :D

Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on April 19, 2014, 09:27:05 AM
von der Tann,
It's still in the box but I could take a photo of some minis next to the fuselage and wings later on today. Would that help?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: von der Tann on April 19, 2014, 09:37:38 AM
von der Tann,
It's still in the box but I could take a photo of some minis next to the fuselage and wings later on today. Would that help?

Indeed it would. :) Thanks alot in advance.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on April 19, 2014, 09:43:51 AM
OK, will do.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on April 19, 2014, 02:48:56 PM
Do you have any size comparision pics you would be willing to share? I'd appreciate it very much. I am thinking of getting one too but I am a bit unsure atm. :D

I hope this helps?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: von der Tann on April 19, 2014, 04:05:05 PM
I hope this helps?

I does! Thank you very much! Now the little bugger just needs to be mailed to me! :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on April 19, 2014, 07:31:33 PM
I does! Thank you very much! Now the little bugger just needs to be mailed to me! :D

It looks like you could get a 28mm mini in each machine-gun position which would look good on the finished model.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: former user on April 20, 2014, 10:09:51 PM
Thx for the interest - I am the first one to say that 1/48 is perfect for 28mm and the pilot in the one looks right too, but they are still gigantic to my taste and I don't know if I want to get used to it....
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on April 22, 2014, 03:45:41 PM
That Walrus looks sweet.
So many possibilities with it.
I look forward to seeing it in action, like maybe carrying some Heros to a hidden rocket base?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: pistolpete on April 22, 2014, 04:06:31 PM
darn you mad lord - now i have to add the lubin float plane to my ever growing 'want it' list.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on April 24, 2014, 12:38:33 PM
That Walrus looks sweet.
So many possibilities with it.
I look forward to seeing it in action, like maybe carrying some Heros to a hidden rocket base?

Good point, but no rocket base yet,  :'( I'm painting miniatures at the moment but back to the rocket base soon! I've got something else to fly heroes into it though!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on April 24, 2014, 02:31:11 PM
Drache really is a lovely piece to add to your airfleet.....I guess I should say that as I have 4 of them ;D

regards

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on April 24, 2014, 11:42:01 PM
Now that is nice. Ebay here I come.  :-*
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on April 24, 2014, 11:49:52 PM
....I guess I should say that as I have 4 of them....


4?
 :o
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on April 25, 2014, 02:38:53 AM
Drache really is a lovely piece to add to your airfleet.....I guess I should say that as I have 4 of them

4?

Hoarder

My family motto has always been "Only Excess is Sufficient"
but we spoke of food, not helicopters...


Valerik
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: pistolpete on April 25, 2014, 02:58:35 PM
Quote
My family motto has always been "Only Excess is Sufficient"
but we spoke of food, not helicopters...

in my family it's beer - not food
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on April 25, 2014, 03:09:50 PM
Yeah, well I guess I do have a minor obsession when it comes to Pulp style helicoptors...I have 17 or 18 to build.  I suppose that you could also say that about our little airforce for Pulp as well, we like to have a choice of planes so the girls and I have around 65 Pulp style aircraft, including this lovely little chap:
(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/digger200012/Box_zps0ca509fb.png)
(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/digger200012/as6-1_zps16612fb6.jpg)
(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/digger200012/3bas6_zps3be7a4a0.jpg)

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on April 25, 2014, 11:08:19 PM
in my family it's beer - not food

Beer ISN'T food??

Well, all these years...

Yeah, well I guess I do have a minor obsession when it comes to Pulp style helicoptors...I have 17 or 18 to build.  I suppose that you could also say that about our little airforce for Pulp as well, we like to have a choice of planes so the girls and I have around 65 Pulp style aircraft...,
Pete 

Now THAT'S the Spirit!!

Though I must admit you just made the Top of my "To Be Jealous Of" List

Ol' Mad Lord Snappywhatsis will NOT be pleased, bein' dethroned like that n'all...

So what, if anything, are ya missin'?

Valerik
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on April 26, 2014, 09:29:31 AM
Quote
Ol' Mad Lord Snappywhatsis will NOT be pleased, bein' dethroned like that n'all...

Devastated, old bean, devastated! I'll just have to learn to live with it.  ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on April 27, 2014, 09:09:31 AM
I just saw this listing for a Sack AS6 on EVIL BAY....nice price when you consider how hard it is to get this kit.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/201080324815?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_140wt_1362

So Milord you have a chance to catch up to us....

regards

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on April 27, 2014, 10:15:56 AM
Pete,

I don't think I'm ever going to catch you up on your collection! But thanks for the link, I do like the look of that kit.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on April 27, 2014, 10:20:50 AM
I found this whilst searching the web, does anyone know if there's a 1/48 version?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on April 27, 2014, 12:46:01 PM
I found this whilst searching the web, does anyone know if there's a 1/48 version?

Good My Lord,

               I doubt it.  I was unaware there'd been on in 72nd.  You may well find this kite is SO large it is useful for our purposes, better in fact than the Phipps' Ford TriMotor in 1/77th.   While visually too small, that Ford is the only one available, and, being high winged, not unappealing on the table.  I prefer the Stinson meself, demmed Fords are so...plebeian. Alas nobody models such a trimotor, in any scale.
Though there is the Revell Junkers Ju-52 in all its 1/4 scale corrugated goodness...
Somebody does 72nd Fokkers too, including a trimotor I believe.

Just be sure the Heyford's  human scale-able bits, ladders, doors & hatches look right-ish.  If they're  too obviously small use bigger propellers, or graft 1/48 radials to the existing nascelles, that'd change things up nicely.  The tyres and their spats are already huge, no worries there.  Use some Murch Pulp 28mm Lewis guns instead and Robert is your Mother's brother!

Valerik
Professor of Preposterous Physics
Adjunct Accredited Aerodynamatician
Dayton Institute of Applied Aeronautical Absurdity
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on April 27, 2014, 01:01:15 PM
Ummm...this Heyford in 1/48 won bronze at the Scale Model show a few years back
(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/digger200012/Heyford_zps68b57c68.jpg)

Oh and I am pretty sure that the Tri Motor did come in 1/48....I will look into it. If not I have the plans for it in 1/48 and I am sure SOMETHING could be arranged.

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on April 27, 2014, 01:14:48 PM
Ummm...this Heyford in 1/48 won bronze at the Scale Model show a few years back
(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/digger200012/Heyford_zps68b57c68.jpg)

Dear Sweet Happy Jasus, wotta Monster!!!

Oh and I am pretty sure that the Tri Motor did come in 1/48....I will look into it. If not I have the plans for it in 1/48 and I am sure SOMETHING could be arranged.

Oh SURE...

Those WITH Talent can always scratchbuild, and rub our noses in it.
That's gotta be what he did to win that bronze...

Yep!!  Found the deft devil, Aris Polyzos!!!

http://www.freewebs.com/aeroscale/heyford.htm (http://www.freewebs.com/aeroscale/heyford.htm)

Have I mentioned lately that lacking any of mine own, I despise talent?


Valerik

edited to display google-fu
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on April 27, 2014, 01:19:56 PM
Yes 'tis a tad large...and it is said that he has made some vac moulds kits of it.....

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on April 27, 2014, 01:26:32 PM
Yes 'tis a tad large...and it is said that he has made some vac moulds kits of it.....

"...and his gorge rose as an involuntary shudder shook his entire body, the words 'Vacuform Aeroplane' having split the air, soon to be blue with invective..."


Buildings yes, canopies certainly, scenery sometimes, ships rarely, tanks and aircraft NEVER!!!!


Valerik the Unskilled

edited 'cause The Grammar police demanded it
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on April 27, 2014, 01:30:20 PM
Ummm...this Heyford in 1/48 won bronze at the Scale Model show a few years back
(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/digger200012/Heyford_zps68b57c68.jpg)

Oh and I am pretty sure that the Tri Motor did come in 1/48....I will look into it. If not I have the plans for it in 1/48 and I am sure SOMETHING could be arranged.

Pete

What a beauty!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on April 27, 2014, 01:40:40 PM
Ahh now that I know it was scratchbuilt I will send in the Fish Terrorist to destroy this abomination......damn his talented fingers.

Pete

One day I may even relate the story of the Fish Terrorist.........
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on April 27, 2014, 01:45:12 PM
Quote
One day I may even relate the story of the Fish Terrorist.........

Do tell?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on April 27, 2014, 01:51:40 PM
'tis a story only told on dark stormy nights in seedy back alley harbour drinkin' dens.  Where the men are men and the little lordlings tremble.........
Or after I have had a few...whichever comes first!!!

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on April 27, 2014, 02:00:20 PM
What a beauty!

Tis a pity he didn't mix the proper shade of yellow for 99 Sqn in April of '34...

AND his fuselage roundels are undersized.

Rather thought his wheel pants could benefit from a bit of weathering too.

I'll not mention the pilot's wristwatch is one not introduced until 1942...

Valerik the Nitpicker
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on April 27, 2014, 02:11:41 PM
And it is all DIRTY!!!

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on April 27, 2014, 02:39:53 PM
Quote
I'll not mention the pilot's wristwatch is one not introduced until 1942...

 lol  lol  lol  lol  lol  lol
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: cardophillipo on April 27, 2014, 08:34:22 PM
Just got my first Pulp plane. New to all that is 'Pulpy'. Got the 1/77th Ford Tri Motor from ebay for just £3.00 so not a massive financial outlay and from the pics on Page 1 ok scale wise if you stand on your head and squint  :) :)

Cheers

Richard P
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on April 28, 2014, 01:23:11 AM
Can I interest you gentleman in a tad of reminiscing. A spot of geese hunting stories around the heath.

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=59049.msg704686#msg704686

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=59050.msg704572#msg704572

 ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Ignatieff on May 01, 2014, 07:52:40 AM
Top, top work fellas! :-*. I'll need to post a few of mine when I get a mo, but thanks for all the inspiration.  I may have missed this, but old Aurora kits from 20-30 years ago sometimes appear on eBay, and there are some crackers on their.  I got my monster DH10 there for not a lot of wonga.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on May 01, 2014, 08:13:26 AM
Top, top work fellas! :-*. I'll need to post a few of mine when I get a mo, but thanks for all the inspiration.  I may have missed this, but old Aurora kits from 20-30 years ago sometimes appear on eBay, and there are some crackers on their.  I got my monster DH10 there for not a lot of wonga.

You've got me looking on eBay now for one! It looks like a great kit.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on May 01, 2014, 08:18:33 AM
I was searching for the DH-10 but came across this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gotha-G5-Bomber-Assembled-Expertly-Modeled-Detailed-1-48-Aurora-Kit-1960s-/321372919165?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ad351957d (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gotha-G5-Bomber-Assembled-Expertly-Modeled-Detailed-1-48-Aurora-Kit-1960s-/321372919165?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ad351957d)

Fantastic!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Ignatieff on May 01, 2014, 12:34:42 PM
DH10 was built for me by my good friend Smirnoff.  He found to reasonably easy, other than replacing the thin plastic wing struts with cocktail sticks which gave it strength...and yes, that Gotha looks the part....
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on May 01, 2014, 12:57:38 PM
Well I already have a Gotha...but damn I forgot the 10!!!  I must, I must, I must add to my airfleet!!!

regards

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Eric the Shed on May 11, 2014, 06:41:31 AM
Just posted up my 1/48 planes on the blog

http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/the-shed-wars-air-force.html (http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/the-shed-wars-air-force.html)

(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/Airforce/DSC_0051_zpsf7e58f86.jpg)

cheers
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: d phipps on May 11, 2014, 07:15:57 AM
Nice ones, Eric!  :-* :-*

THANKS for sharing.



Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on May 14, 2014, 11:10:50 AM
Just posted up my 1/48 planes on the blog

http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/the-shed-wars-air-force.html (http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/the-shed-wars-air-force.html)

(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/Airforce/DSC_0051_zpsf7e58f86.jpg)

cheers

Nice looking air force! It's good to see the Walrus assembled, mine is still in the box but now I've seen yours I may be inspired to put it together. I look forward to seeing your airfield when you construct it.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on May 14, 2014, 05:06:36 PM
Being unsure of the cross-posting policies & etiquette here* I shall merely ask that you direct your attention to THIS thread:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=66857.0  (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=66857.0)

I know many of you have become avid "Goose" hunters, so may I present, by way of an inducement,

(http://www.round2models.com/images/models/hl70512/product.jpg)

They've got styrene plastic boats too, all ready, & EASY, to convert or adapt to your own nefarious purposes!!


Valerik

*I asked my colleague Mad Lord Snapdragon about this, he flushed a fearful RED, stammered "twasn't true, he knew nought of cross dressings, they were all filthy liars, really it was only once at that pantomime, in the Mess..."  I left him muttering, nursing a stiff brandy, sadly no wiser than when I'd broached the subject
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: wolfen on May 14, 2014, 08:13:36 PM
I know many of you have become avid "Goose" hunters, so may I present, by way of an inducement,

(http://www.round2models.com/images/models/hl70512/product.jpg)

Valerik

I have one of these ready to paint. It's a great kit!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on May 15, 2014, 06:33:43 PM
One by ushistoryprof to gawk at from an old post;

....Pulp has so many ways to play, here are some pictures of the variety of pieces, like this plane, you can use for Pulp games.
[/img](http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae36/ushistoryprof/100_05942.jpg)
http://worldhistoryprof.blogspot.com/search/label/1920%27s-30%27s%20Pulp%20Fiction
Prof
----------
http://worldhistoryprof.blogspot.com/

1/48 Curtis [I guess] sans top wing with added raygun!
You dont get more pulpy than this bird!  ;D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on May 15, 2014, 07:07:03 PM
1/48 Curtis [I guess] sans top wing with added raygun!
You dont get more pulpy than this bird!

DAYUM!!

I LIKE that!!

& you are absolutely correct, she's a topless P6E, one of the all time most beautiful biplane fighter 'planes.

(http://www.hansenfineart.co.uk/images/rhma-78-%20snow%20owls%20over%20the%20lady-%20800%20x%20527.jpg?osCsid=l0oc1r4ob3mfjfmq2cnkf6cfh1)

She's actually in my Top 20 Most Beautiful 'Planes of ALL Time!!

One little known fact though, despite the diminutive size, P6Es could carry an enormous payload:

(http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1956646&d=1389498582)

YMMV

Valerik
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on May 15, 2014, 07:50:54 PM
....One little known fact though, despite the diminutive size, P6Es could carry an enormous payload:....

Valerik you cant fool us!
Thats not cargo the P6E is carrying. It is actually sitting on the flight deck of a XM37A Mobile Airfield as tested by the US Army Aircorp circa 1934 outside of Bakerfield CA. That particular XM37A is now parked outside of the entrance to the Planes of Fame Air Museum at Chino. A place well worth the price of admission.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on May 15, 2014, 10:23:05 PM
. A place well worth the price of admission.

Good.  It's about damn time they did that.  

Woodie Guthrie is probably outraged, but paying to get into California is long overdue, as am sure those denizens would agree.

Now if only they'd raise the price of the exit visa the rest of the continent could relax.

I do hafta thank the Californianos for one thing, Orange Juice Marketing.

I always use the OJ Scale to rate games & AARs.

It's a sliding scale from Canned to Fresh Frozen to Not From Concentrate to Extra Pulp.

Those games with "adult" content are judged from Mimosa to Screwdriver to Harvey Wallbanger.

In either case a series of  1 to 5 complete or segmented suitably coloured spheres provide immediate visual reference of satisfaction.

Valerik

edited for the usual mis-spelt words, yeah verily, even on this, my centenary post...
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Vanvlak on May 18, 2014, 09:20:17 AM
The Piaggio Pegna PC7 would make an unusual ride (especially seeing it never quite flew in the first place!):

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Piaggio_P.7_black_and_white.jpg)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piaggio_P.7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piaggio_P.7)

A 1:32 scale model (a bit too large) is available, but is extremely expensive.
http://www.grandprixmodels.com/searchdetail.php?ref=MMAT32017A&/Marsh-Models-Aerotech-1:32-Piaggio-PC7-model (http://www.grandprixmodels.com/searchdetail.php?ref=MMAT32017A&/Marsh-Models-Aerotech-1:32-Piaggio-PC7-model)

Then again, a kitbash of something which approximates its features should not be impossible.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: former user on May 18, 2014, 09:41:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK9rx0VcxBc
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Vanvlak on May 18, 2014, 09:59:08 AM
Heh - ok, the original didn't fly, but that one certainly did  :D :D :D
I admit I omitted to look up videos - nice find.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on May 18, 2014, 01:45:00 PM
The Piaggio Pegna PC7 would make an unusual ride (especially seeing it never quite flew in the first place!

Such a perfect example of an idea who's time has come to be stillborn.

Such concepts aren't really all that uncommon in aviation are they?



Valerik
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on May 24, 2014, 12:29:37 PM
Won these on eBay, they arrived today, well pleased! I'm going to make the Gotha ASAP as I have an idea for a game!  ;)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q645/Mad_Lord_Snapcase/Misc/Kits001_zpsb688430b.jpg) (http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/Mad_Lord_Snapcase/media/Misc/Kits001_zpsb688430b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on May 24, 2014, 12:42:11 PM
Won these on eBay, they arrived today, well pleased! I'm going to make the Gotha ASAP as I have an idea for a game!  ;)

Well done Ol' chap. Jolly good show. You De Bomb.  ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on May 24, 2014, 12:53:28 PM
Yes I still need to add a Gotha to the airfleet.....prices for them are starting to get idiotic. Hope you got a good buy Snappy.

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on May 24, 2014, 02:45:20 PM
That's because all the goons in this thread are all running out at the same time to buy gothas!  ;D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on May 24, 2014, 03:00:49 PM
That's because all the goons in this thread are all running out at the same time to buy gothas!  ;D

To ALL GOONS on this thread.....STOP BUYING GOTHAS!!!!

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on May 25, 2014, 07:00:15 AM
Quote
Hope you got a good buy Snappy

£36 for the pair. I don't know if that's a bargain?

Quote
That's because all the goons in this thread are all running out at the same time to buy gothas!

 lol  lol  lol  lol  lol

Quote
To ALL GOONS on this thread.....STOP BUYING GOTHAS!!!!

OK, I won't buy anymore, but you have to love the Goons......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-yF50BD0Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-yF50BD0Q)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on May 28, 2014, 09:42:03 AM
Here's my lot so far  ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Col. Aubrey Bagshot on May 28, 2014, 10:15:08 AM
You need TWO flying boats? ;)
Nice kit, which ones are they?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on May 28, 2014, 11:14:16 AM
You need TWO flying boats? ;)
Nice kit, which ones are they?


http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=59049.msg704686#msg704686

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=59050.msg704572#msg704572
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Col. Aubrey Bagshot on May 28, 2014, 11:28:52 AM
most kind....
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: former user on May 28, 2014, 11:35:48 AM
btw, does anyone have a good source for Pulp/Interwar liveries?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on May 28, 2014, 06:48:11 PM
You need TWO flying boats? ;)....

Don't you mean 'Why do you have ONLY two flying boats?'

Nice bunch of birds.
I have one of those cylon raiders collecting dust in the closet as well.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on May 29, 2014, 08:33:15 AM
Very nice collection, Prof!  :-*
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on May 31, 2014, 04:28:22 AM
For all you Lucky folks who got Gotha's, remember to paint it Red!

(http://imageshack.com/a/img845/1410/zleo.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on May 31, 2014, 04:38:27 AM
1936 Keystone Loening

(http://imageshack.com/a/img834/4152/fw0w.jpg)
(http://imageshack.com/a/img843/9213/red0i.jpg)
(http://imageshack.com/a/img845/5557/6ccnu.jpg)


This is a diecast I got from ebay for $15, S&H included
Scale pics show a 1" grid and minis by Copplestone, Pulp Figures, and Artizan.

(http://imageshack.com/a/img844/6825/qsum.jpg)
(http://imageshack.com/a/img843/5625/9f4l3.jpg)
(http://imageshack.com/a/img836/9707/65y7.jpg)
(http://imageshack.com/a/img834/548/2pj1r.jpg)
(http://imageshack.com/a/img845/3517/acpl.jpg)

I intend to convert this into a monowing and paint it up, but its playable in the meantime.
The diecasts come painted or brushed metal like this one.
This is a Chevron one.
It comes in Texaco colors and at least one other, so good hunting.

Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on May 31, 2014, 04:40:06 AM
Wow, damn near perfectly scaled.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on May 31, 2014, 07:16:44 AM
That's a nice looking plane. I wonder what the New York Police used it for?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on May 31, 2014, 07:30:16 AM
For all you Lucky folks who got Gotha's, remember to paint it Red!

(http://imageshack.com/a/img845/1410/zleo.jpg)

I was thinking of this lozenge pattern (although painting it looks like a nightmare!) but red is impressive, the Red Bomber?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on May 31, 2014, 07:39:45 AM
I was thinking of this lozenge pattern (although painting it looks like a nightmare!) but red is impressive, the Red Bomber? 

EVERYBODY knows RED makes 'em look bigger...

YMMV

Valerik
Professor of Preposterous Physics
Adjunct Accredited Aerodynamatician
Dayton Institute of Applied Aeronautical Absurdity
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on June 01, 2014, 02:24:35 PM
Found a new one that has that lovely pulpy look about it...must add one to the airfleet:

(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/digger200012/gop60a-3_zpse11a003c.gif)

(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/digger200012/3bgp60a1_zpsb02e0148.gif)
Gotha GO P60.A1

The crew were to fly it prone in the nose section. Like doing the Luge in the air.

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 02, 2014, 07:35:38 AM
Some more ideas here...

Two German planes, the FW-42 Ente and the Triebflugel and a Russian, the KA-17. I have found a kit of the Triebflugel in 1/48 but it's rather expensive!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on June 02, 2014, 01:33:44 PM
MUST HAVE Russian KA17 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* 3 of them at least.....

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 02, 2014, 02:27:42 PM
MUST HAVE Russian KA17 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* 3 of them at least.....

Pete

What would the wing span of the KA-17 be in 1/48?  ???

I really want the Triebflugel but the kits I have found so far in the UK are over £60!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 03, 2014, 05:46:52 PM
I was going through some old photos I took at Duxford in 2005 and came across these. They may be of some interest in this thread?

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q645/Mad_Lord_Snapcase/Misc/Duxford001_zpsf9057ac4.jpg) (http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/Mad_Lord_Snapcase/media/Misc/Duxford001_zpsf9057ac4.jpg.html)

Focke-Achgelis
FA 330 Autogiro


Single-seat autogiro used by observers on German submarines in the Second World War.

This simple single-seat gyro kite was designed in 1942 to provide a means of increasing the view of observers on U-Boats. Some 200 of them were built.

The machine could be quickly assembled or dismantled and stowed through a U-Boat hatch. It was launched from the deck of a U-Boat on the surface by being tilted backwards once the unpowered rotor was running. It would stay aloft at a minimum of 17mph (27.2km) and towed on the 500 foot (152m) long cable would maintain an altitude of nearly 400 feet (122m). From it an observer could see 25 miles (40km), as opposed to only 5 miles (8km) from the U-Boat deck. In a normal descent the autogiro was winched back in, but the pilot could, in an emergency, release the rotor and parachute down. Two to three crew members of each submarine equipped with the Fa 330 are thought to have been trained to use it.

Little is known of actual operations by the Fa 330, also called Bachstelze (Water Wagtail). It was however an unpopular machine because in an emergency the U-Boat had either to delay it’s dive to pick up the pilot of the autogiro or dive and hope to rescue him later.

The Fa 330 is 14 feet 6 inches long, has a rotor diameter of 24 feet and weighs approximately 180lb.


(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q645/Mad_Lord_Snapcase/Misc/Duxford003_zps3f3e6204.jpg) (http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/Mad_Lord_Snapcase/media/Misc/Duxford003_zps3f3e6204.jpg.html)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q645/Mad_Lord_Snapcase/Misc/Duxford004_zps55facea5.jpg) (http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/Mad_Lord_Snapcase/media/Misc/Duxford004_zps55facea5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: northtroll on June 03, 2014, 07:17:54 PM
I have a Keystone Amphibian in green with some Logo or another on it. It was a bank, originally, but it is now my pulp plane for explorers and so forth. those autogyros look cool, but a pilot friend of mine said he'd never touch one as he didn't trust them! Oh well this is the pulps so of course it will work!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on June 04, 2014, 04:29:08 AM
At the risk of cross-posting, I think I might ask the same question here that I asked in the workbench:

For my next scenario, I am going to require a crashed airship. Unfortunately, while Pulp may be Pulp, I don't foresee this scenery element seeing a lot of re-use (in fact this is already bothering me, because the damned thing is just going to sit in my terrain boxes forever afterwards - I'm going to try and keep the size small) but there really is nothing to substitute for an airship wreck.

So I banged together a few ideas to do it cheaply. A quick trip to the dollar store and $10 spent has given me almost everything I need. However, there's one thing I can't get: Engines for the nacelles.

I need a couple of 1:48 radial engines. Not a whole plane - just two engines and propellers. Or even engines from a 1:72 kit which was a larger plane. Even one engine might do in a pinch if that's all I can get (it IS a wreck after all).

Does anyone know where I might get some? Or even if someone has some bits they could send my way. They need to be cheap though it's perfectly okay if the detail is crappy. They just need to generally look like radial engines.

Maybe one of you chaps have some spares among all those model kits?

I was thinking about buying a model just to smash it up, but I actually decided not to - these things are actually way more useful intact as planes. Those I can use in many scenarios. So I'm really loath to destroy a kit just for the engines. Plus kits that would yield multiple such engines will run me $25-$40 or more in the hobby shops here and surely I can do better than that. I wouldn't ask anyone to break up a kit that's currently intact, but maybe if a kit came with an extra or something.

Maybe there's a way I could make some by hand? Engines are such fiddly things with a particular look.

Any suggestions would be appreciated!  
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on June 04, 2014, 05:04:25 AM
So I banged together a few ideas to do it cheaply. A quick trip to the dollar store and $10 spent has given me almost everything I need. However, there's one thing I can't get: Engines for the nacelles.

I need a couple of 1:48 radial engines. Not a whole plane - just two engines and propellers.

Consider buying just engine sprues from the manufacturer:

(http://www.zoukeimura.co.jp/sentiment/images/img_043b003.jpg)

Most will sell single sprues by mail, ask on aero-modelling fora for sprue #s & contacts.


Look in the dollar stores & sales bins for Disney PLANES toys.  Some are more 'plane -like, others more toy-ish.
There are several quite suitable for such cannibalization, in various sizes, & styles.

(http://missiontosave.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Disneys-Planes_Wallpaper_Payoff_Tablet.jpg)
The inline engine ones may be more credible.  Easy enough to rig juicy big external exhausts too.

For extra Pulpy consider doing back to back inlines, pushame-pullayou style:

(http://www.baps-orch.co.uk/29th_Entry/assets/uk_short-singapore-3_1934.jpg)

(http://www.vintagewings.ca/Portals/0/Vintage_Stories/News%20Stories%20D/Double%20Double%20-%20The%20story%20of%20the%20Zwillingsbiber%20Beaver/TwinBeaver40.jpg)
 
(http://xplanes.free.fr/do335/images/ju635ai2.jpg)


quite the spiffy Italianate Russo-German Brittanic aeronautical tomfoolery.

YMMV

Valerik
Professor of Preposterous Physics
Adjunct Accredited Aerodynamatician
Dayton Institute of Applied Aeronautical Absurdity
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on June 04, 2014, 12:46:11 PM
Fram

I have a couple of JU52 and Savoia Marchetti SM79 engines laying around...infact they are in a box next to my desk.  They are 1/72 but should look the part, PM your details and I will bang them in the post when I get my little girl back from the hospital tomorrow.

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on June 04, 2014, 04:07:13 PM
Wow! Fantastic!

As long as you're not cannibalizing one of your own models where you planned to use the engines, I'm happy to accept.

PM sent.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 05, 2014, 07:25:33 AM
I'd not seen this one before, I may have to get one:
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on June 05, 2014, 11:34:57 AM
Snappy it is a great kit....I have one of these and the KA-1 as well. Don't forget to get a Pitcairn gyro as well and the FA330 model is VERY nice, I have one that is going to be made standard and another that I am going to add a front amoured section to.

regards

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on June 05, 2014, 12:00:13 PM
For those whom have been unable at this time to get a Gotha for their airfleets, AZ Models make a 1/48 kit.
Gotha G.V - AZ4860
(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/digger200012/AZGotha_zps3a36a3fd.jpg)

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on June 05, 2014, 12:01:46 PM
Wow! Fantastic!

As long as you're not cannibalizing one of your own models where you planned to use the engines, I'm happy to accept.

PM sent.

Matt

They are packed and ready to go....couldn't make the post today so they leave in the morning.

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on June 05, 2014, 02:22:31 PM
No worries, no hurry!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 06, 2014, 07:25:19 AM
If only I could scratch-build.......
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on June 06, 2014, 07:49:48 AM
It looks like you could make that by converting a Fiat CR32 model.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 06, 2014, 08:13:03 AM
FramFramson,

As always, you are spot on.....
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on June 06, 2014, 10:36:52 AM
Wow, canvas, wood and rocket engines are a really cool mixture...  :o

Well, the Messerschmitt Me163 was actually built to that recipe!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on June 06, 2014, 12:50:51 PM
Hmm I think I have a CR32 laying around....think I shall give it a bash.

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on June 06, 2014, 02:47:36 PM
I love that not only is it a rocket-powered biplane, but that it's being chased by a pterodactyl.  ;D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on June 07, 2014, 03:38:54 AM
If only I could scratch-build.......

You can do it!

BTW, that pic was a major inspiration for my rocket planes;
Thanks for all the kind words.
Here it is with a bit of greenstuff and the figure for Lonestar, the Cowboy of the Skys!
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/41/i4t2.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/62/2r9q.jpg)
Lonestar is the famous Lobster Johnson fig with a hat from the Reaper Bones Shadow figure.
Now for some paint....

AND;

Daily News International Edition
Rickenbacker Airfield, Shaing Kong, August 6, 1937
Warhawk takes New Rocket Plane to Shaing Kong!
by Lois Lane


     It seems the sky over troubled China is about to get a lot more pleasant thanks to the newest visitor from the States. It seems that Warhawk, the renowned  daredevil pilot of fortune has taken his newest mount across the Pacific to help sort out the pirate problems there. The first I knew of Warhawk's relocation came as I stared out of my window aboard the weekly Clipper to Shaing Kong and noticed that we had an escort off the starboard wing.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img577/5605/djqq.jpg)
     Upon landing at the seaplane dock, I headed on over to Rickenbacker field where he must have landed. Sure enough, there he was and as ever, he was reluctant to talk to the press. But I did find out that his new Rocket Plane, the XP-289, is the latest collaboration between Hughes and Peevs. Keep your eyes peeled to the sky to see what Warhawk can do vs the Pirates!
(http://imageshack.us/a/img849/4587/6vyl.jpg)

Here are a few simple shots.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img62/160/us79.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img841/1544/4vtp.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img834/4863/ggyl.jpg)
WIP is here;
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=56704.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=56704.0)

Thanks for looking.



....Well, the Messerschmitt Me163 was actually built to that recipe!

Don't you mean the top secret ME162 from 1937?

....
(http://imageshack.com/a/img547/4195/7alq.jpg)
(http://imageshack.com/a/img834/913/pvr1.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on June 07, 2014, 04:50:11 AM
Amalric, what did you use as the basis for the plane in your first photo?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on June 07, 2014, 06:10:13 AM
Amalric, what did you use as the basis for the plane in your first photo?

Made from a Testors 1/48 Curtis R3C racer it [nice kit, easy to find and cheap], one Disney Rocketeer rocket pack from the 8" bend-em toy and some spatted wheels from a 1/48 AMT Lockheed Vega [horrible kit].
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Diplomatist on June 10, 2014, 03:56:07 PM
The Works currently have several model kits.  Among the 1:48 are

Revell Model Kit, Mistel V Ta154 And Fw190 - http://www.theworks.co.uk/p/toy-models/revell-model-kits---mistel-v-ta154-and-fw190/4009803048246 (http://www.theworks.co.uk/p/toy-models/revell-model-kits---mistel-v-ta154-and-fw190/4009803048246) - £19.99

Revell Model Kit - Republic P-47N Thunderbolt - http://www.theworks.co.uk/p/toy-models/revell-model-kit---republic-p-47n-thunderbolt/4009803048673 (http://www.theworks.co.uk/p/toy-models/revell-model-kit---republic-p-47n-thunderbolt/4009803048673) - £9.99

There website does free delivery (?in the UK?) if you spend more than £10.00.

A tad late for classic pulp, but...
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 10, 2014, 06:49:10 PM
The Works currently have several model kits.  Among the 1:48 are

Revell Model Kit, Mistel V Ta154 And Fw190 - http://www.theworks.co.uk/p/toy-models/revell-model-kits---mistel-v-ta154-and-fw190/4009803048246 (http://www.theworks.co.uk/p/toy-models/revell-model-kits---mistel-v-ta154-and-fw190/4009803048246) - £19.99

Revell Model Kit - Republic P-47N Thunderbolt - http://www.theworks.co.uk/p/toy-models/revell-model-kit---republic-p-47n-thunderbolt/4009803048673 (http://www.theworks.co.uk/p/toy-models/revell-model-kit---republic-p-47n-thunderbolt/4009803048673) - £9.99

There website does free delivery (?in the UK?) if you spend more than £10.00.

A tad late for classic pulp, but...

Thanks for that link, Diplomatist, I've ordered the Mistel with Fw190. Handy, that no postage!  :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 13, 2014, 07:53:48 AM
My latest. EBay.  ;)

Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 13, 2014, 08:08:29 AM
I want one!  :-*
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 13, 2014, 05:15:12 PM
Look what the Postman brought today...................

I've been after a Storch for a long time!


 (http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q645/Mad_Lord_Snapcase/Misc/Pulpplanes002_zps3028af4b.jpg) (http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/Mad_Lord_Snapcase/media/Misc/Pulpplanes002_zps3028af4b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on June 13, 2014, 05:48:04 PM
My latest. EBay.  ;)

There's one of those in a local model shop. I balked because it's close to $40, but might eventually pick it up (there are many very oooollllld dusty kits in that shop).
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 14, 2014, 01:33:17 AM
There's one of those in a local model shop. I balked because it's close to $40, but might eventually pick it up (there are many very oooollllld dusty kits in that shop).

Aussie EBay never ceases to amaze me with what appears. Of course you have to wait'n'watch like a vulture, but sooner or later some gem will show up and for a price that you can only dream of. $40.00 you  say? This cost less then half that with free postage. The seller lives 20 mins away so if he was charging postage, picking it up would be an option.  ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on June 14, 2014, 04:34:02 AM
Well, I also have to be verrrry careful in picking up larger models for aircraft and the like. I have little room here, so while expanding the lead pile isn't much of an issue, adding large models will rapidly turn my apartment into a hoarder's den.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on June 14, 2014, 04:57:33 AM
Well, I also have to be verrrry careful in picking up larger models for aircraft and the like. I have little room here, so while expanding the lead pile isn't much of an issue, adding large models will rapidly turn my apartment into a hoarder's den.

And your point?



Valerik
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 14, 2014, 08:20:17 AM
And your point?



Valerik


 lol..... lol..... lol....that's funny,...since when has lack of room ever been an issue... lol
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 14, 2014, 08:22:17 AM
Look what the Postman brought today...................

I've been after a Storch for a long time!

Well done Snappy... :-* for the Italian job.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 18, 2014, 11:36:57 PM
A little something from an online game called World Of Warplanes.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCK8HGglE8k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCK8HGglE8k)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Diplomatist on June 21, 2014, 10:23:53 PM
The Works currently have several model kits.  Among the 1:48 are

Revell Model Kit, Mistel V Ta154 And Fw190 - http://www.theworks.co.uk/p/toy-models/revell-model-kits---mistel-v-ta154-and-fw190/4009803048246 (http://www.theworks.co.uk/p/toy-models/revell-model-kits---mistel-v-ta154-and-fw190/4009803048246) - £19.99

Revell Model Kit - Republic P-47N Thunderbolt - http://www.theworks.co.uk/p/toy-models/revell-model-kit---republic-p-47n-thunderbolt/4009803048673 (http://www.theworks.co.uk/p/toy-models/revell-model-kit---republic-p-47n-thunderbolt/4009803048673) - £9.99

There website does free delivery (?in the UK?) if you spend more than £10.00.

A tad late for classic pulp, but...

Their website is currently having a flash sale (30% off until Sunday), so they're even better value...

http://www.theworks.co.uk/c/toys-games/toy-models/?pageSize=20&page=1 (http://www.theworks.co.uk/c/toys-games/toy-models/?pageSize=20&page=1)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 22, 2014, 09:46:53 AM
Thanks for that, Diplomatist, I've ordered a load of books at the discount price and free delivery as well!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 22, 2014, 11:50:06 AM
I'm scoping this at the moment, but wondering does it qualify as a mainstream pulp. First made in 1935 Canadian ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WrR0a1jL9Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WrR0a1jL9Y)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 22, 2014, 01:47:05 PM
I've got that one. Still in the box though, so I can't tell you what the kit's like. I bet Peter@BattleScape has got one made though?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 22, 2014, 01:59:37 PM
I've got that one. Still in the box though, so I can't tell you what the kit's like. I bet Peter@BattleScape has got one made though?

So you think it qualifies for pulp in a pulpy kinda way?... I'm wondering if it's too close to ww2 for a main character's ride in a game?  :?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on June 22, 2014, 03:03:20 PM
I'm scoping this at the moment, but wondering does it qualify as a mainstream pulp. First made in 1935 Canadian ?

Absolutely not.  Can't possibly even approach the realm of True Pulp.  Amazed you even had to ask.

So you think it qualifies for pulp in a pulpy kinda way?... I'm wondering ~~

Stop attempting tasks above your pay grade.  Please.

This is NOT Pulp, can't be PULP,  but... is not entirely UN-PULPish... so your error may be forgiven.

Actually, upon further reflection, we need prevent this from happening again to others equally challenged.

Purchase it at once, and have it shipped to me for proper disposal.

Then your conscience can rest easy and your mind remain clear for further searches.

You will bask in the knowledge you have removed erroneous temptation from our Pulpverse.


Valerik

Chief Constable
Pulp 'Plane Police Inspectorate
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 22, 2014, 05:51:11 PM
Quote
I'm wondering if it's too close to ww2 for a main character's ride in a game?

Go for it Prof! My rule is, if it's got floats it's Pulp!

Quote
Purchase it at once, and have it shipped to me for proper disposal.

Valerik, nice to know we have an environmentally sound policy on non-Pulp item disposal!  ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on June 22, 2014, 06:44:44 PM
Go for it Prof! My rule is, if it's got floats it's Pulp!

Rules are made to be broken, this one's all wet...

(http://www.airminded.net/stagwing/staggerwing1.jpg)

Float Staggerwing Beech, beached!!

& afloat..

(http://www.aerofiles.com/beech-sd17s.jpg)

(http://www.pwareunion.com/images/index/beechstaggerwing.jpg)

& atop

(http://www.joeld.net/snowcruiser/wings_8.jpg)

(though those are skis...)

Can't have a Pulp 'plane without an aviatrix right?

(http://static.thisdayinaviation.com/wp-content/uploads/tdia//2012/03/520x645xJackie-Cochran-with-her-Beech-D17W-Staggerwing1.jpg.pagespeed.ic.o0S9zX05wb.jpg)

I couldn't find a still of Myrna Loy piloting hers in 1938's Too Hot To Handle,..
When I saw her swoop down towards Clark Gable & grease that float Model 17 onto the Amazonian river...  WOW!!!!
...almost a trouser filling experience...

or a femme fatale inna hot car

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zWPNAFTST4c/TCjr_FbXSuI/AAAAAAAAABE/UcKwiJmQD20/s1600/stagger+wing+fantasy.JPG)

no Staggerwing, but a nice mix of pulpy floaters
(http://www.moultonboroughhistory.org/images/Temp%20Images/img99.jpg)

Valerik, nice to know we have an environmentally sound policy on non-Pulp item disposal!

No bother at all Old Boy, one must do one's bit 'round here, keep up the standards.
Might suggest you check your OWN closet for offending articles.

You wouldn't actually need to Come OUT, y'know, just hand 'em through the open door to Old Scrotum...

Valerik

Deputy Director
Disposal Department
Pulp Purity Police
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: NickNascati on June 22, 2014, 08:14:57 PM
I'm heading to A.C. Moore this week to pick up a grab bag of balsa, I will scratch build some suitable planes for my game. Pictures will be provided.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on June 22, 2014, 08:48:58 PM
....
or a femme fatale inna hot car

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zWPNAFTST4c/TCjr_FbXSuI/AAAAAAAAABE/UcKwiJmQD20/s1600/stagger+wing+fantasy.JPG)....

Both the staggerwing and a hot car are available in 1/48;
(http://modelingmadness.com/scott/cars/previews/36013bt.jpg)


Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on June 22, 2014, 08:50:10 PM
....
& atop

(http://www.joeld.net/snowcruiser/wings_8.jpg)

(though those are skis...)

That arctic explorer truck screams Pulp and deserves a topic of its own!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 23, 2014, 12:41:09 AM
I guess what I'm trying to determine,...is when it comes to machinery, is there a cut off date to what would class as 'Pulp' or not, and if so, what is it and what therefore qualifies? Or is it just the look of the thing that determines it. What would qualify as a Pulp aircraft in the pics below? And if there is a distinction between what qualifies and what doesn't based on a cut off date, does the aircraft depicted by the model (Pic 5) get in, and if it doesn't, would it still get in on it's look ?

Ps. Pity the last two pics are only 1/72 scale  :'(
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on June 23, 2014, 04:01:43 AM
I guess what I'm trying to determine,...is when it comes to machinery, is there a cut off date to what would class as 'Pulp' or not, and if so, what is it and what therefore qualifies? Or is it just the look of the thing that determines it. What would qualify as a Pulp aircraft in the pics below? And if there is a distinction between what qualifies and what doesn't based on a cut off date, does the aircraft depicted by the model (Pic 5) get in, and if it doesn't, would it still get in on it's look ?

Prof, for me it's gotta pass the Ol' Mk I Eyeball Exam: Look right, probably IS right.

In my mind's eye that's a BROAD curve, a few LATE Great War up to some 1942~ish ones... so basically Interwar designs.

WW I aircraft were built for a lifespan of weeks, months at most, kinda like the vaunted WW II Jeep!!
This is NOT to say they were poorly, or improperly constructed, some soldiered on for years. a few still fly today.
Aviation was in its infancy, training brief at best, crashes frequent, design flaws discovered daily, improvements constant, engines got bigger, & more reliable, fabric & cladding stuck on better,AND folks were shooting at you!!

The Douglas World Cruiser (#7) used floats or wheels depending on the leg it was flying.
It's cutting edge 1924 technology, streets ahead of WW I, but eclipsed as soon as it made history.
The '50s stuff, like your Cessna (#1) doesn't work for me, too close to NOW.

Gotta realize though, that throughout this 25ish year period, aviation's Golden Age, there were vast design differences  from tried n'true to sleek n'swift to Holy Crap!! The latter encompasses both positive & negative instances of genius &/or folly.

BIG ROUND ENGINES-always popular for Pulp, sadly now a mere memory, or a restoration.
Many, many engines, & push-pull configurations = highly Pulpy, Your Cant (#8) works very nicely!!
BIG engines, BIG control surfaces, low payloads hallmark our Pulp technology.
Your Norseman (#5) is Spot ON , as I'd hoped my earlier, facetious comments would indicate.

Pointy turbo engines are a nogo, jets & rockets are sci-fi highly experimental jobs, fantasy really.

Propellers are 2 bladed for the vast majority of kites, mostly wood, some metal, 3 & 4 blades uncommon, but not absent.

Open cockpits, not a requirement, but a good indicator.  Open cockpit + enclosed passenger cabin Oh Yeah!!
Cabin capacity from 2-12 pretty much the limit, 20 passenger or more planes are BIG, & New.

Seaplanes & floatplanes-much more useful in our period when few paved runways existed in civilized countries.
Worlwide, water was the way to explore a country absent airfields from the air, since open, tree free level spots were sparse, & suspect.

Autogyros-ONLY existed for Pulp!!  Like early helicopters they had trouble lifting themselves, much less a payload!

For landplanes, tail draggers virtually exclusively, tricycle gear requires prepared, manicured runways.
Grass airfields are the norm, paved or tarmac runways were uncommon until the rise of scheduled air transport in the 30's.

In your pictures there are several exceptions to Snappy's Rule: 1, 2, 4, & 6 are all clearly too modern, though they do posses floats.  The turboprop engines are a dead giveaway on the Otter & Vikings, the Cessna is  a post-war design still going strong today.

THIS is PURE Pulp, to a T!!  Great find!!   Über Pulp!!

(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=58045.0;attach=21876;image)


Hope these tips point you to better Pulpier air travel & Adventure worldwide!!

Valerik
Professor of Preposterous Physics
Adjunct Accredited Aerodynamatician
Dayton Institute of Applied Aeronautical Absurdity
Air Travel Agent for All The Cool Kids

Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on June 23, 2014, 04:35:28 AM
or a femme fatale inna hot car

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zWPNAFTST4c/TCjr_FbXSuI/AAAAAAAAABE/UcKwiJmQD20/s1600/stagger+wing+fantasy.JPG)

I think you just lit the Blackwolf signal.  lol


Prof, for me it's gotta pass the Ol' Mk I Eyeball Exam: Look right, probably IS right.

In my mind's eye that's a BROAD curve, a few LATE Great War up to some 1942~ish ones... so basically Interwar designs.

"Tell me more about th' curves on dem broads, mac."
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 23, 2014, 06:15:04 AM
Yes there are some little biases in my post, but put there for a reason. I do have in my mind's eye a fair indication of things I would consider reflects 'Pulp' (I think we all do, being so engrossed in it as we all are here) In fact there's not much that falls out of my black and white and into the grey, but this particular aircraft did. To me it looked too much like a Beaver aircraft which I would not consider to be pulp, (Feel free to convert me if you disagree) The fact that it comes on floats, (as well as wheels) in the kit, was swaying me in the direction of what Snappy said, that if it's got floats it's a goer. Though I hasten to update that, with some of the pics I found in the search clearly not qualifying as I'm sure we're all agreed.

No this one threw me. It's got floats and wheels, made in 1936, (which is cutting it fine as far as 'The Golden Age' of aviation is concerned) but still qualifies for the period,...yet despite this didn't quite have 'That Look' that was needed in convincing me.

So I bought it anyway. Especially since it now has approval and acceptance from those that I consider highly proficient in this field, so thank you for that.

I'm now going to paint it stealth black so it can fly my main characters into areas like the middle east and not be detected.  ;D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 23, 2014, 06:38:02 AM
Moving on from my above post, here's my WIP so far on my latest. Adele Blanc-Sec's private aircraft I'm calling 'The Pink Lady.' Not sure of the final colour scheme yet, may do the tail in aluminium silver like the engine cover along with the wheel covers. I need to find a suitable decal (Yes decal because I learned many many years ago that their not stickers  :D ) that will give it that golden era look.

Will add more pics when it's finally finished.  ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 23, 2014, 06:42:02 AM
I think the First Rule of Pulp Planes has been developed here. Both Valerik and the Prof. have said it's got to have THE LOOK and I think they're right. Defining THE LOOK might be rather tricky as beauty is most definitely in the eye of the beholder, but using anything you like the look of is one of the great aspects of Pulp gaming. As Valerik alluded to, we can have rocket bikes, auto-gyros and death rays alongside camels, cavemen, dinosaurs and lost continents! It just has to have that Pulp look!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 23, 2014, 06:43:55 AM
The Ryan Trainer definitely has the Pulp Look, especially when it's painted pink! I love what you've done there, Prof.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 23, 2014, 07:21:25 AM
Press play,..drool at the plane.  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVvkjuEAwgU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVvkjuEAwgU)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 23, 2014, 08:09:42 AM
Nice, I reckon you should have a pterodactyl as the decal on Adele's Ryan Trainer!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 23, 2014, 08:21:59 AM
Nice, I reckon you should have a pterodactyl as the decal on Adele's Ryan Trainer!

Or just ditch the plane and give her one instead  ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 23, 2014, 08:23:19 AM
Quote
give her one instead

Absolutely!  ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 23, 2014, 08:32:38 AM
Absolutely!  ;)

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUn0n9Yu7Vw][url=www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUn0n9Yu7Vw] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUn0n9Yu7Vw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUn0n9Yu7Vw)[/url]
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on June 23, 2014, 02:39:05 PM
I've got that one. Still in the box though, so I can't tell you what the kit's like. I bet Peter@BattleScape has got one made though?

Alas Snapster I only have 2 in the box waiting to be made.
As to what "fits" in Pulp...the time span covered is 1919-1950...well that is the generally accepted period. I personally look at the kits and to make up my mind...there are a few modern aircraft and vehicles that I do or would happily use as they have that pulp look.  So as Valerik says...go with the eyeball.

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on June 23, 2014, 02:45:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUn0n9Yu7Vw

Ahhh Dick Emery.....now that brings back some GREAT memories...that and Kenny Everett Show.

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on June 23, 2014, 02:47:49 PM
we can have rocket bikes, auto-gyros and death rays alongside camels, cavemen, dinosaurs and lost continents! It just has to have that Pulp look!

You can NEVER have to many Autogyros...or Pterodactyls ;D

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on June 23, 2014, 05:17:07 PM
Moving on from my above post, here's my WIP so far on my latest. Adele Blanc-Sec's private aircraft I'm calling 'The Pink Lady.' Not sure of the final colour scheme yet, may do the tail in aluminium silver like the engine cover along with the wheel covers. ~ that will give it that golden era look.

GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY Time!!

Take the left over floats from your Ryan & graft 'em onto something else, Insta-Pulp 'Plane!!

Be sure to pick something small, I'd probably go for a P-26, or a P-6E or an F4B4, any of which would look GREAT afloat!!
Other suit candidates are most any of the Testor's "Air Racers", Howard DGA, Laird-Turner, "Ike", Mister Mulligan etc.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxNTUy/z/obMAAMXQyY1TRfzM/$_57.JPG)

2 quick true stories about Ryan trainers:

At 17 Dad & I attended the Reading, Pennsylvania Air Show, a yearly pilgrimage.
We discovered another father-son team SELLING their 1942 PT-19!!  Seems they needed dollars to advance the son's college education.

(http://www.fuselagecodes.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/PT-19.JPG)

Nicely done up in USAAC "Yellow Peril" colours, it was airworthy-they'd flown it in to the show, had full tanks, and complete-including 2 helmets with goggles, plus two seat pack parachutes...  Their "fly it away" price, $2,000...  far less than MANY new 1971 cars!!
It was a genuine bargain. priced to sell, quite reasonable, & VERY tempting.
Neither Dad nor I doubted our collective ability, absent licensing & certification though we were, to get that crate HOME ourselves!! 
We were equally bereft of ideas about WHAT we would tell my mother when we called her for a ride home from the airport, or how to explain HER 'new' car was still where we left it, in Reading!!
Alas mine own college days loomed ahead very shortly, $2k went a LONG way back then, and we didn't have funds to spare, so, ruefully, we passed up a splendid opportunity.  Which we still marvel over to this day!!

Fast forward to the 90s, Sun n'Fun in Florida where I watched a chap self-prop his magnificently restored silver radial engined PT-22.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Ryan_PT-22_Recruit_USAF.jpg)

Which promptly jumped ONE chock and began chasing her pilot 'round the tarmac in circles!!
Fortunately he'd not fully opened the throttle, so this wasn't a high speed catastrophe, indeed it was amusing enough to draw a crowd.
Now that pilot had a tighter turning radius than his Ryan, so once he'd succeeded in dodging the whirling prop he began to turn inside it.
At which point his quarry managed to jump her OTHER chock!!
No longer tethered to a single point, the PT-22 began describing bigger, & more erratic, circles, complicating our hapless aviator's attempts to board his empty 'plane.  The crowd remained, but receded, giving the beast all the room she asked for.
Our vaunted birdman's valiant attempts to re-enter his cockpit proved fruitless, and a deliberate groundloop, with attendant damage, seemed inevitable, his runaway now dangerously close to damaging other 'planes & property.
In an instant though, the dainty demoness doubtless distracted or dizzy, a brave bystander darted from the throng, leapt aboard the offside wing, and cut the throttle!!  Crisis deferred, but not averted.
Suitably embarrassed, our grateful flier tiredly caught his kite as she slowed, hurled himself into the closest seat and applied the brakes. 
Accident averted, the disappointed onlookers dispersed. 
Only a few of us remained to watch our chastened ace firmly re-chock his wheels, and tightly tie down his freedom seeking steed!!

I'm certain he sought succor in some suitable adult beverage, as shaken and chastened as he appeared!

Obligatory aero-babe picture

(http://www.airfields-freeman.com/CA/Pomona_CA_45_PT-22.jpg)

Good Times!

Valerik

"Just "Plane Crazy"
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on June 23, 2014, 06:33:40 PM
Press play,..drool at the plane.  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVvkjuEAwgU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVvkjuEAwgU)

Christmas biscuits - that's going to be a monster on the table! I'm interested in seeing how it looks when built.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on June 23, 2014, 11:50:24 PM
(http://www.fuselagecodes.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/PT-19.JPG)

Nicely done up in USAAC "Yellow Peril" colours, it was airworthy-they'd flown it in to the show, had full tanks, and complete-including 2 helmets with goggles, plus two seat pack parachutes...  Their "fly it away" price, $2,000...  far less than MANY new 1971 cars!!....

:'(

Those testor's racing planes are Ace kits for pulp. I've turned 3 into Rocket Planes [2 still need painting] and painted up a Ryan rather shabbily. That 1/48 DC-3 has long been on my Want list for pulp planes.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 24, 2014, 01:56:38 AM
Christmas biscuits - that's going to be a monster on the table! I'm interested in seeing how it looks when built.

EEEEEEK I haven't bought it,...I saw it listed on Oz ebay. And yes it would end up being big.  :o
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: wolfen on June 24, 2014, 04:01:30 AM
I have a Monogram 1:48 DC-3 waiting to be built. Having looked at the kit I can say that it is big!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 24, 2014, 05:15:15 AM
=www.youtube.com/watch?v=I77JyDu0HVU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I77JyDu0HVU)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 24, 2014, 07:44:16 AM
..............and may I present a photo of the SNAFU (Snapcase National Air Force Unit  ;)) in training on my secret island, readying themselves for world domination................
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 24, 2014, 07:57:55 AM
..............and may I present a photo of the SNAFU (Snapcase National Air Force Unit  ;)) in training on my secret island, readying themselves for world domination................

Oh no... :o,...so even more time needed to complete the hooded minions and rocket base... lol
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on June 24, 2014, 02:27:34 PM
..............and may I present a photo of the SNAFU (Snapcase National Air Force Unit  ;)) in training on my secret island, readying themselves for world domination................

Please Sir can I join???? ;D

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on June 24, 2014, 03:39:13 PM
It'd be a damn shame to break up the set...

Presenting The Great Kate!!!

(http://heres-looking-like-you-kid.com/files/2009/01/hepburn-airplane.jpg)

(http://www.beatontheblue.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/KH-T.png)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9bxBphjkxJ8/UYm3v2eBdvI/AAAAAAAAPbs/K4Xxf5p9tZI/s1600/KATHARINE+HEPBURN+actress+norte+americana+posando+de+piloto+para+o+milion%25C3%25A1rio+Howard+Hughes+31Janeiro1937-001.jpg)

(http://www.movpins.com/big/MV5BMTI0MDUyOTY0OV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNTY3MjQ2._V1/katharine-hepburn-film-set-christopher-strong-(1933)-0023891-large-picture.jpg)

(http://www.movpins.com/big/MV5BMTcwNjg5NjA2OV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwOTY3MjQ2._V1/katharine-hepburn-film-set-christopher-strong-(1933)-0023891-large-picture.jpg)

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m99nvlJddk1rrbuhco1_500.jpg)

(http://www.doctormacro.com/Images/Hepburn,%20Katharine/Annex/Annex%20-%20Hepburn,%20Katharine%20(Christopher%20Strong)_02.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=58045.0;attach=21923;image)

(http://us.cdn001.fansshare.com/photos/katharinehepburn/katherine-hepburn-924261367.jpg)

That smirk is enough to make a bishop kick a hole in a stained glass window...

Any man not melted by her smouldering beauty...

These appear to be from 1933's Christopher Strong, her 2nd film appearance.

(http://the-toast.net/okay/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/kate3.jpg)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0023891/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1  (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0023891/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CBDZWHp8COA/TcrrhUTzwFI/AAAAAAAAA78/0xtMLJewCP4/s320/christopher_strong_200.jpg)

(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/70/fd/70fd7fdc128d19cbc906bb159daf5cd2.jpg?itok=hnqiP4p4)

Pulpy enough for everyone?

Valerik
Smitten since childhood...
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 24, 2014, 11:55:55 PM
Thoughts?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on June 25, 2014, 12:07:20 AM
The top 3 say they are "1/4 scale"  :o
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 25, 2014, 12:15:13 AM
The top 3 say they are "1/4 scale"  :o

That's an observation... lol  lol ....

Google= An architect's scale is a specialized ruler designed to facilitate the drafting and ... one-quarter-inch-to-the-foot (1/4"=1'-0") (1:48)/one-eighth-inch-to-the-foot.

Thoughts?

Are they 'Pulpy' ?
Would you buy them ? (At the right price)
How would you paint them up, standard or a civilian color scheme?  :)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 25, 2014, 12:25:14 AM
you have an ace collection of old kits there.

Here is one from my photo collection that will appeal to you chaps

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204443248629868&set=a.10204358348467417.1073741826.1491108819&type=3&theater

I'm scoping them at the moment,...your link sends me this message. Not sure if the problem is at my end?  :(

This content is currently unavailable
The page you requested cannot be displayed right now. It may be temporarily unavailable, the link you clicked on may have expired, or you may not have permission to view this page.

Here's some more. Unfortunatly the last one is only 1/72 scale so too small for 28mm.  :(
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 25, 2014, 12:54:03 AM
http://modelingmadness.com/scott/allies/previews/roden/448.htm

 ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on June 25, 2014, 05:55:28 AM
I still haven't received the OTHER kits I instructed you to send to me for proper disposal...

Please do the same, at once, with all of these others.  Do it.  Just do it. Do it NOW!!

Except the Texan & SNJ.   Those two are completely devoid of Pulpish goodness.

They are the same 'plane really.  The SNJ is a Navy AT-6 Texan, or RAF/RCAF Harvard.

Useful only if you're doing post-'45 bush wars, noirish, but past Pulp for purists.

The others are Pure Pulpy Goodness.
 
As far that 1/72nd Blackburn Shark goes, I'd buy it.  She was a HUGE kite!! 

(http://www.airmuseum.ca/mag/sharkh3.jpg)

I'd wager she scales very nicely with 28mm.
Of course she'll need a mod or two, since she can't really be a true Shark in our scale.
Leave off the cowling, drop back to a 1/48 2 blade wooden prop, modify the cockpit & glazing & you'll be aces!!

Thanks for showing off these.

I'll be checking my mail daily, don't disappoint eh?

Valerik
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on June 25, 2014, 06:00:40 AM
Get ready to curse my name, because the only usable aircraft model I have at all is a Texan I picked up locally for $10 - useful for it's larger (i.e. team-sized) carrying capacity and it's similarity to a pulp-era Russian plane whose name escapes me at the moment.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on June 25, 2014, 06:27:24 AM
Get ready to curse my name, because the only usable aircraft model I have at all is a Texan I picked up locally for $10 - useful for it's larger (i.e. team-sized) carrying capacity and it's similarity to a pulp-era Russian plane whose name escapes me at the moment.

Yeah, yeah, yeah...

I KNOW they were born in '35, same vintage as the DC-3 & many, many others.
They made a blue gazillion of 'em, EVERYBODY, & his dog,  flew 'em.
Rugged, reliable & simple, easy to fly, and fight, a very versatile platform indeed.

(http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/Prescott2004/Highlights/T6s.jpg)

The T-6 is the most efficient way know to man to convert 100 octane AvGas to noise, & fun.

To me there's nothing like 'em, never will be, & they look like, well, T-6s,
even when you convert 'em into any-damn-thing-you-want-with-a-big-round-engine-for-your-silly-movie.

Perhaps it's because I watched, and listened, to four of them die at the Cape May National Air Races.

Please forgive a hide-bound rascal who's just 'plane crazy.

Valerik
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 25, 2014, 08:48:49 AM
If this (First pic) could be considered a Pulp movie,...you know,...good guy, (Action hero) bad guy,(Power corrupted Dictator with lot's of minions) Sound familiar? ...lot's of adventures in lot's of exotic destinations. Good guy saves the situation several times and wins the girl in the end,...so has all the ingredients....

BUT (Second Pic) this isn't what would be considered to be suitable for Pulp,...

Then we're all in the dog house...because,...

This (Third pic) is of course a scene from the movie.

But I guess there's exceptions to every rule.  ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: former user on June 25, 2014, 10:23:51 AM
But I guess there's exceptions to every rule.  ;)

and we call it crossover, lay back and relax....
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 25, 2014, 11:49:10 AM
Prof. I do like this one particularly, the box lid looks like a cover of a Pulp magazine! I would paint it just like that. I think really you need three of those painted up to make a Pulp Squadron.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 25, 2014, 12:30:17 PM
Prof. I do like this one particularly, the box lid looks like a cover of a Pulp magazine! I would paint it just like that. I think really you need three of those painted up to make a Pulp Squadron.

Roger that Ol' Snappy  ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: aliensurfer on June 25, 2014, 01:27:19 PM
ooh cape may national air races? going to have to see if I can time my next trip there to coincide with them - of course, I'll just have to pretend to the rest of the family we are just going to the beach again  :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on June 25, 2014, 02:13:41 PM
Prof

Well what is there to say except YESSSSSSS......
The P26 is PERFECT and as The Snapster has stated those colours are SMICK!!!
12E has that High Road to China down and out flyer feel so again GO FOR IT...
F4b4 is SCREAMING to have ROCKET PODS attached to it for a short power boost.
Where as the Avia, Shark and Staggerwing just finish the picture perfectly....the Airfield/Port with the eclectic mix of races and styles.

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on June 25, 2014, 02:18:53 PM
Valerik

The Texan is a BRILLIANT platform....one of my favourite planes to fly.  Once you get her of the ground she is PURE JOY. I know she does not have the LOOK of some of the more pulpy planes...but when you are cruising, diving and banking in one, you do think of yourself as a Pulp Flying Hero...well I did..... :D
Not all Pulp needs to be...flashy and out there....many of the cars and trucks used are rather....well...plain, functional and reliable.  That is what the Texan is, so yes I feel she has a place in pulp.

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: harleyface on June 25, 2014, 11:58:03 PM
Hello

I dont know much about vehicles....
After finishing some projects i have ordered some bob murch pilot minis.
Can someone give me a hint for my first pulp plane  :D
The most importent thing is that is available in europe with shipping to germany...international shipping.
Im thinking of a small plane maybe with ...heres the end of my english...the possibility to land in water lol  i think you know what i mean ....
THANK YOU!!!
Florian
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on June 26, 2014, 12:40:50 AM
ooh cape may national air races? going to have to see if I can time my next trip there to coincide with them - of course, I'll just have to pretend to the rest of the family we are just going to the beach again  :D

Once & done I'm afraid.  After the dual disastrous mid-air collisions New Jersey banned air racing.

Damn shame, coulda been Reno East, or Cleveland Redux, but, bureaucracy rules, no matter how foolishly.

There do seem to be some news reports & some videos out there, if you're curious.
I can never forget it, and don't care to dwell on the matter, bold men died flying their dreams.
43 years ago this summer, I'm glad I was there, hate I saw it all happen, still sad for the families & friends.

Valerik

The Texan is a BRILLIANT platform....one of my favourite planes to fly.  Once you get her of the ground she is PURE JOY. I know she does not have the LOOK of some of the more pulpy planes...but when you are cruising, diving and banking in one, you do think of yourself as a Pulp Flying Hero...well I did.....
Not all Pulp needs to be...flashy and out there....many of the cars and trucks used are rather....well...plain, functional and reliable.  That is what the Texan is, so yes I feel she has a place in pulp.

Pete

Pete, I do NOT disagree, not one lil' bit, however..

For me it comes down to "look"

A T-6 cannot look like anything else but, to mine olde eyes, all four of 'em.
Ditto the DC-3, & the Ju-52, so I gotta believe they'd make me squirmy onna table.

I actually wanna backdate my 1/48 C-47 to a DC-2, surely somebody makes those bits?

Those who wanna Pulp up their Texan how about a backdate to an NA-16?

(http://www.exequielmartinez.com.ar/aviacion/2-1974%20NA-16-4P-CdoMat.jpg)

Or a CAC Wirraway?

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRaavcXM5p7RWxRWHXry2YB7PMFcQ6J5Na09bMrPgXJq5fOkfVxLg)

or a Boomerang for that matter.

Tart a T-6 up as a wanna-be warbird, tone down the bright trainer colours, add guns n'bombs to taste.
I'm possibly convinceable...


Still looks like a Harvard though...

(http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/76/7604/5S4F300Z/posters/1940-s-style-pin-up-girl-sitting-on-the-cockpit-of-a-world-war-ii-t-6-texan.jpg)

Notta BAD thing, just sayin'...

Long ago & far away I was presented with an opportunity to purchase, sight unseen, an "early Spitfire spade grip with hydraulic firing button", without even a photo available.
Bless her, the ex- ex-wife, said yes, twas a largish sum, and a gamble, and my package duly arrived, the article in magnificent, almost un-issued condition.  She described it as "man-machine interface, circa 1940", & she wasn't wrong. (EVER, but those are other stories.)

(http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=150975&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1173127576)

Fast forward many, many years, & the majic of the intarwebs revealed FRAUD!!
What I have never graced a Spitfire, or Hurricane, it's AM No AH 2242 proves it is for a Harvard!!
Was I disappointed, sure, I'm a Spitfire guy since age 6...
The fact that as a a Harvard part she's worth 4x-5x more in £ than I paid for it in $ eases the sting...
Not that I'd sell it...

Valerik

hoarding the unhoardable

EDIT: my miserable spelling, & 1 picture
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on June 26, 2014, 12:41:30 AM
....Can someone give me a hint for my first pulp plane  ....

Florian,

I would suggest a 1/48 Ryan PT-20 by Testors.
Its easy to get, easy to build, makes a robust gaming plane and can be build wither with cool wheel pants or floats, both come in the kit.
(http://www.oldmodelkits.com/jpegs/Testors%20510%20Ryan%20Open.JPG)
(http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal4/3201-3300/Gal3252_PT-20_Smigielski/01.jpg)

One WIP by LAF'r Kalle;

Working on this to use in pulp adventures:

   (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yQ6l79inPbg/T3cCPNnil3I/AAAAAAAAA-Y/R79wQ20YSLA/s1600/DSCN8151.JPG)

Model is an old Testors Ryan ST-2 in 1/48th scale with added stays and a radio arial.

Regards
/Kalle

He's some reference pics of my take on this kit from my 1st post in this topic;

....My scale minis are Gangster by Copplestone, Pilot by Pulp & Aviatrix by Artizan

Ryan PT trainer
1/48 plastic kit by Testors
easy to find
easy to build
cheap
it comes with floats as well if you want to make a seaplane
(http://imageshack.us/a/img819/4505/xraj.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img689/3522/z0kc.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img818/2769/occ4.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img197/7905/w4tq.jpg)
I need to finish this badly, I started it here; http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=25563.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=25563.0)
....
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 26, 2014, 03:57:14 AM
Another 1/72 scale... :'(  :'(
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on June 26, 2014, 04:39:57 AM
Another 1/72 scale...

While it is perfectly acceptable in some societies to torture one's self,  must you SHARE the misery?

Thanks a lot, for teasin' us...

Now cease this nonsense at once, and focus on 1/48 exclusively please.

[/rant]

Unless you manage to find a PLASTIC* 1/72 Zeppelin, dirigible, blimp, tramp steamer, small cargo liner or tanker.

* NOT wood, paper, resin & ABSOLUTELY NOT Vacu-form!!

Valerik

Edit: the Zeppelin nonsense


Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 26, 2014, 06:39:06 AM
I found the Klemm in 1/48 and if you follow this link there are some more fabulous 1/48 kits in resin.

http://www.joesmodels.com/kora_models_KOR_48.htm (http://www.joesmodels.com/kora_models_KOR_48.htm)

Focke-Angelis Fa 336

Focke-Angelis Fa 330

Aerostatoplan Zucenko

F.F.G. BERLIN B9

Focke-Wulf Fw 44J

and more.............................. :P

I'll add some pictures in a minute but I have to block out the symbols on some.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on June 26, 2014, 07:07:49 AM
Unless you manage to find a PLASTIC* 1/72 Zeppelin, dirigible, blimpEdit: the Zeppelin nonsense

Should you ever manage to visit southern Germany, don´t miss the Zeppelin museum in Friedrichshafen. They have quite a collection of 1/66 scale models of dirigibles on display. That is rather good for 28mm gaming purposes, but the handling of such a model of - let´s say Hindenburg or Los Angeles would be a bit of an enterprise - let alone lifting it off the museum secretly...
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 26, 2014, 07:15:13 AM
Quote
Should you ever manage to visit southern Germany, don´t miss the Zeppelin museum in Friedrichshafen.

I would love to go there. I must do it one day. I haven't visited Germany since the 80's!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 26, 2014, 07:25:18 AM
Some more here from the same source..............
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 26, 2014, 07:39:47 AM
....and some more, I love these planes............
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: harleyface on June 26, 2014, 08:43:10 AM
@Amalric

Thank you for your help.
Saw this modell on the first page and really liked it.
But it seems to be hard to get in germany /europe....
Only model i found 1/48 that i like is the goose.
Think i give it a try because itseems to be a nice first pulp plane  :)

Thank you

Florian
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 26, 2014, 09:08:18 AM
@Amalric

Thank you for your help.
Saw this modell on the first page and really liked it.
But it seems to be hard to get in germany /europe....
Only model i found 1/48 that i like is the goose.
Think i give it a try because itseems to be a nice first pulp plane  :)

Thank you

Florian


Yes! The Goose is a great choice. You'll need miniatures for Jake and Corky.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Blackwolf on June 26, 2014, 09:12:11 AM
You lot are are killing me :) One or two more Ma.ks then I'm doing a 'plane...Inspired by this thread :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 26, 2014, 09:46:43 AM
More 1/72 scale...sorry  ;D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 26, 2014, 10:01:23 AM
You lot are are killing me :) One or two more Ma.ks then I'm doing a 'plane...Inspired by this thread :D

Looking forward to seeing it.



Prof. I've got that exact same Trimotor kit. I bought it because I think it might look OK next to 28mm miniatures.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 26, 2014, 10:21:58 AM
Looking forward to seeing it.



Prof. I've got that exact same Trimotor kit. I bought it because I think it might look OK next to 28mm miniatures.

Apparently you can get a 1/48th scale of it.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on June 26, 2014, 12:25:52 PM
Florian

I think I have a spare...I will have a look tomorrow....if yes you can have it.

regards

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Ballardian on June 26, 2014, 01:25:37 PM
Glad to be finally joining his thread, have finally got 'Air Predictable Evil' off the ground, but have a modelling question; I notice that quite a few of you have the Special Hobby Focke Achgelis Fa 223 (the double rotor helo). I've also got one, as yet unassembled - I've heard that this kit is a bit of a mare, (see swannysmodels.com - well worth a look generally) with some 'issues' regarding part fits, particularly with regards to the booms which carry the rotors and the undercarriage -  so has anyone here built one & encountered problems?
 It'd be a shame if this kit was a teeth-grinder as it'll look great on the table, any words of wisdom would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Ballardian on June 26, 2014, 01:37:16 PM
Does anyone know if the 1/48 X-Resin Fokker F IIb trimotor shown in Prof Dinglebat's last post is still available?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on June 26, 2014, 01:51:09 PM
Ok Ballardian

Yes the kit is available...not sure what the price in your neck of the woods is like but in Oz you will need to sell a kidney, right leg and your least favourite testicle.

As to the Special Hobby kit I have 5 of them waiting to be built and have made 4 for customers.  Each one has gone together diferently. In 2 the booms were a bitch....and that is putting it mildly.  In others the fuslage was warped to such a degree that I had to heat it to get it straight....no an easy thing to do. It is a complex, pay a LOT of attention and don't do this when sleepy model.

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Ballardian on June 26, 2014, 02:09:14 PM
Many thanks Peter, I'll get a bulk order of calm pills in & probably build it in a series of sub-assemblies interspersed with long walks & deep breathing.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Ballardian on June 26, 2014, 04:07:50 PM
Found the X-Resin 1/48 Trimotor at AviationMegastore.com - a shade under £90 (plus p&p), I think one of the Revell Ju 52's for less than £35 looks a more likely purchase.
 The size of the Trimotor makes it appealing, (the 52 is a big lump on a 3'x3' tabletop) plus its parasol wing makes moving minis around it easier, but the price is a bit steep.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 27, 2014, 02:32:16 AM
This popped up on my facebook page.

(By cutangus.deviantart.com)

And yet another 1/72 scale.  :'(
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 27, 2014, 05:46:18 AM
1/40th will do in a pinch.  ;)

And a correct weight  ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on June 28, 2014, 02:20:46 PM
I found the Klemm in 1/48 and if you follow this link there are some more fabulous 1/48 kits in resin.

http://www.joesmodels.com/kora_models_KOR_48.htm (http://www.joesmodels.com/kora_models_KOR_48.htm)

Focke-Angelis Fa 336

Focke-Angelis Fa 330

Aerostatoplan Zucenko

F.F.G. BERLIN B9

Focke-Wulf Fw 44J

and more.............................. :P

I'll add some pictures in a minute but I have to block out the symbols on some.

Guys
Kora make some kits of interesting subjects that is true, but for the high cost and the difficulty of construction they are not worth worrying about.  Especially as they are VERY lacking in detail.  Stick to the main manufacturers and convert them into interesting things.

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mr. Peabody on June 28, 2014, 05:41:27 PM
Once or twice a year Hobby Link Japan has a good discount on stock.

I picked up two of the 1/48 Hobby Master 'Air Power Series' for about £8.80 ($16.00) each, plus shipping. Nice kites, a Boeing PE-12 and a Hawker Fury. All they need is a bit of matte, some weathering and one of those charming Copplestone pilots. They even come in useful boxes for storage...

(http://www.aerodrome24.de/out/pictures/master/product/2/ha7902-1.jpg)

(http://www.flyingmule.com/img/prd/HM-HA8003_01_lrg.jpg)

The price on these Hobby Master diecasts is normally enough to scare me away, but the HLJ sale prices are just fantastic. :o Well worth watching out for. 

Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 28, 2014, 05:45:07 PM
Quote
Kora make some kits of interesting subjects that is true, but for the high cost and the difficulty of construction they are not worth worrying about.  Especially as they are VERY lacking in detail.  Stick to the main manufacturers and convert them into interesting things.

Pete,
Thanks for the advice, I didn't know that.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 29, 2014, 05:37:11 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on June 29, 2014, 06:35:51 AM
How big does that savoia marchetti come to in terms of actual measurements?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 29, 2014, 08:03:39 AM
How big does that savoia marchetti come to in terms of actual measurements?

Not sure,..found this.  :?

Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on June 29, 2014, 08:54:01 AM
Oh is this another kit you don't actually own?  >:D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 29, 2014, 09:15:12 AM
Oh is this another kit you don't actually own?  >:D

Well it would only take me to click the 'Buy It Now' on ebay if I wanted to own it. But having googled the model I have found that apparently (According to one builder the of the kit) it lacks in accuracy and there are better options. So I probably won't.

If the subject here is 'Only aircraft you own' then my view would be that it limits readers to what's available. Thanks to others here that have listed several from the manufacture's page (Thank's Snappy  ;) ) I have been more informed about the selections currently on the market. If I want measurements I usually google the model name and manufacture and take it from there.  ;)

Here's another I don't own..yet,..but will soon as it's a bid sale not a 'Buy It Now.'  ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on June 29, 2014, 12:04:29 PM
Here's another I don't own..yet,..but will soon as it's a bid sale not a 'Buy It Now.'  ;)

I already mentioned that on page 2 of this thread...  :D
Of course I want to contribute my multi-purpose amphibious plane: Grumman J2F "Duck" in 1/48 scale by Czech manufacturer Classic Airframes: http://www.internetmodeler.com/2001/july/first-looks/ca_duck.htm

I chose that one, because it is still relatively small, can transport some passenger and luggage and can travel over land and sea alike. That makes it useful for so many nice and pulpy scenarios on remote islands where naked dinosaurs and carnivore Amazons (or was it vice versa?) prey on daring explorers or each other...

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/FigurenfotosMichi1025-2.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/FigurenfotosMichi1026-2.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/FigurenfotosMichi1027-1.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/FigurenfotosMichi1028-2.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/FigurenfotosMichi1029.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Peter@BattleScape on June 29, 2014, 01:42:17 PM
Here's another I don't own..yet,..but will soon as it's a bid sale not a 'Buy It Now.'  ;)

My youngest is in the middle of making that one.....quiet nice, clean mould, good detail on the outer skin, well worth having.  I am thinking of getting another for converting, the deep fuselage lends itself to many interesting ideas......and as a typical gamer they will only ever be ideas and will never see fruition.

Pete
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on June 29, 2014, 02:11:54 PM
I already mentioned that on page 2 of this thread...  :D

And it was just your thread that made me keep an eye out for one, so thanks for that . ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 29, 2014, 02:23:16 PM
........and of course it was in one of my favourite films, Murphy's War, starring Peter O'Toole.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on July 05, 2014, 01:13:10 PM
A walk around The National Museum of the US Air Force with my mate Jingles  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DCK_vz0dwU&list=UUpnjlvS2zxhbNJuGNo_TxkQ
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Gun bunny on July 05, 2014, 04:52:53 PM
awesome  :)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: former user on July 05, 2014, 06:11:38 PM
Peter O'Toole would have made a magnificent Corto Maltese
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on July 05, 2014, 08:07:43 PM
Oh boy, he really did have the right face for it.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Constable Bertrand on July 09, 2014, 05:37:50 AM
Heads up US pulp gamers... just found this on ebay. The estate has other era kits too.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-48-LOT-OF-4-BI-PLANES-BUILT-AIRCRAFT-ESTATE-FIND-SWORDFISH-DeHAVILLAND-/161358204356?pt=Model_Kit_US&hash=item2591b2cdc4&_uhb=1 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-48-LOT-OF-4-BI-PLANES-BUILT-AIRCRAFT-ESTATE-FIND-SWORDFISH-DeHAVILLAND-/161358204356?pt=Model_Kit_US&hash=item2591b2cdc4&_uhb=1)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on July 25, 2014, 12:07:02 AM
Latest.  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlxMArpU3o8
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Malebolgia on July 25, 2014, 06:51:13 AM
Ordered a PT-20 two weeks ago, thanks to this thread ;)
But then I managed to crush one of those clear glass windows beneath my foot. AAAAAARGGGHHHH!
Why don't they do these things on a sprue??? Apparently it fell out of the box without me spotting it  :'(
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on July 25, 2014, 07:00:20 AM
Ordered a PT-20 two weeks ago, thanks to this thread ;)
But then I managed to crush one of those clear glass windows beneath my foot. AAAAAARGGGHHHH!
Why don't they do these things on a sprue??? Apparently it fell out of the box without me spotting it  :'(

Ouch. One of my reoccurring nightmares which stems back to my childhood days is mum standing at my opened bedroom door with the vacuum cleaner.  ;) 
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: juergen c. olk on July 26, 2014, 01:46:40 AM
X-Seaplane circa late 1930's
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Constable Bertrand on July 26, 2014, 09:05:01 AM
No way. The scale is way off there. Is the plane 1/72 or 1/144?? Those minis look too big. ;) lol

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on July 26, 2014, 11:46:39 PM
Prof, Good luck with the AMT Vega kit.
I hated it!
The wing joint is horrible!  >:(
I threw mine in the trash, but  recovered it later to rebuild into a wreck.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on July 27, 2014, 06:59:03 AM
Prof, Good luck with the AMT Vega kit.
I hated it!
The wing joint is horrible!  >:(
I threw mine in the trash, but  recovered it later to rebuild into a wreck.

Building it the way the instructions tell you to is just one of many possibilities considered, but by no means the first in the list of considerations.  lol
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on July 29, 2014, 07:16:12 PM
I should have posted this thread here!

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=69354.0

Sorry.

Tony
http://dampfpanzerwagon.blogspot.co.uk/
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on September 30, 2014, 03:42:01 AM
I'm sorry I've been inactive for awhile, the new jobs been rough, but I have been able to work this up. This is a repainted 'Cabbie' from the new pixar Planes movie. It's a C-119, post WW2 I know but it has great lines, was cheap [$20 at Target], is super sturdy,  and I think with a proper pulpy paintjob will play the role of smuggler/pirate plane nicely.

18" wingspan
lots of flat space for minis
high wings for action around the plane
useable cargo space

(http://imageshack.com/a/img913/2282/8K4dWj.jpg)
(http://imageshack.com/a/img540/9583/QXspqW.jpg)
(http://imageshack.com/a/img538/6181/9ZtF8V.jpg)
(http://imageshack.com/a/img674/1691/4nZ6cg.jpg)

Hey! Isn'nt that
(http://imageshack.com/a/img661/7158/JjFL7L.jpg)
the Cord that Blackhawk's been looking for?
(http://imageshack.com/a/img538/1715/lsv1wa.jpg)

It comes apart with screws into nice and easy to spraypaint parts
FYI the nose is easily lost and is made out of something that doesn't like spratpaint.

Now all I need to do is weather it abit after the nose art decals arrive.  ;D
Enjoy.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: gary42 on September 30, 2014, 04:58:08 AM
That is awesome!  Gotta me one a' dem!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on September 30, 2014, 05:08:06 AM
This place is better then Advertiser Central.  :-*  :-*

Hi Ho Hi Ho It's off to EBay I go... lol
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on September 30, 2014, 07:06:01 AM
I bet you could convert that pretty easily to make your own Sea Duck. :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on September 30, 2014, 08:00:48 AM
That´s funny, I held it in hands last week and thought to myself "what a fine plane for pulp adventures", but 50€ was to steep for a simple toy plane. For that price I could get a Franklint Mint die-cast collectible...
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on September 30, 2014, 08:52:30 AM
I would suggest that the cockpit windows look a little too small. Try painting the window frames in a dark colour and I think you should able to sort this out.

I'd love to see it when it is finished.

Tony
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Traveler Man on September 30, 2014, 04:37:10 PM
Nice lines, and you can't go wrong at that price.  :)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on October 01, 2014, 12:42:54 AM

It comes apart with screws into nice and easy to spraypaint parts
FYI the nose is easily lost and is made out of something that doesn't like spratpaint.

Now all I need to do is weather it abit after the nose art decals arrive.


Nice find!!  LOTS of gaming potential!!

OK if I were asked to pulpify one o'these crates I'd be inclined to:

remove existing engine nacelles & replace with nekkid radial engines, no cowlings
ADD 3rd engine in place of the pesky problematic proboscis, nekkid, no cowling
remove the vertical stabilizer fillets atop the booms
convert undercarriage to fixed, with spiffy wheel pants
cut away the undersized windows & make a two/three seat open cockpit.

By visually backdating her appearance, the pulpification process proceeds,
& oughta suitably disguise the beast's baser origins.

Take THAT Rivetcounters!!


Valerik
Professor of Preposterous Physics
Adjunct Accredited Aerodynamatician
Dayton Institute of Applied Aeronautical Absurdity
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on October 01, 2014, 08:01:21 AM
Take THAT Rivetcounters!!

Are we bovvered?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: gary42 on October 01, 2014, 03:48:33 PM
I'm stealing that credential list for my gyro raider mechanic character... :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on October 02, 2014, 01:41:22 AM
I'm stealing that credential list for my gyro raider mechanic character...

Glad to see you proudly practice IP pilferage only from the best...

& his name really oughta be "Jimmy"

Since USAAC Lieutenant James H. Doolittle, Sc.D., earned the world's first doctorate in Aeronautics from M.I.T. in 1925, barnstormin' fool with a slide rule long before he was a war hero.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/JimmyDoolittle.jpeg/447px-JimmyDoolittle.jpeg)

No better man in uniform to plan, execute, & LEAD the Tokyo Raid in '42.
Yet his earlier exploits & adventures read so sensational they prove truth stranger than fiction.
Sad we'll never see his sort again, those days are long done.
Fix 'em, fly 'em, fight 'em, race 'em, wreck 'em, Jimmy could, & did, do it all.

Valerik
unabashed Doolittle worshiper, James H AND Alfred P
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: juergen c. olk on October 08, 2014, 01:49:41 AM
found this little gem.

Admin Edit: No swastikas, please. See former user's reply a couple of posts below for the plane.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on October 08, 2014, 02:45:28 AM
Nice find Juergen.

That´s funny, I held it in hands last week and thought to myself "what a fine plane for pulp adventures", but 50€ was to steep for a simple toy plane. For that price I could get a Franklint Mint die-cast collectible...

Michi, wow thats a lot. If I could get a Franklint Mint DC3 or Auntie Jus for just 50€ I'd be all over it!

....I'd love to see it when it is finished....
Me to.  ;D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on October 08, 2014, 07:32:09 AM
Michi, wow thats a lot. If I could get a Franklint Mint DC3 or Auntie Jus for just 50€ I'd be all over it!

We might have instructions coming up on how to easily make something for a lot less money then that. Check out Tin Shed's posts from here onward: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=71501.msg871163#msg871163
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on October 08, 2014, 09:22:37 AM
You might want to edit that last photo to remove the offending symbol. German based website.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: former user on October 08, 2014, 09:08:17 PM
this should do
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on October 08, 2014, 09:50:15 PM
The French had some really wild and wacky designs in development then. Check out the SNCASE SE.100

(http://www.hyperscale.com/images/sncases10072pd_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on October 08, 2014, 10:01:52 PM
Oh man, or the Italian Stipa-Caproni

(http://www.seqair.com/Hangar/Zuccoli/Legends/OrgStipa1.jpg)

Look at that thing! This is a real plane which actually flew! If I'd seen this in a saturday morning kids' cartoon I'd have dismissed it as entirely unbelievable.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on October 08, 2014, 10:14:01 PM
Oh man, or the Stipa Caproni

(http://www.seqair.com/Hangar/Zuccoli/Legends/OrgStipa1.jpg)

Look at that thing! This is a real plane which actually flew! If I'd seen this in a saturday morning kids' cartoon I'd have dismissed it as entirely unbelievable.

Is that an impeller concept?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on October 08, 2014, 10:15:34 PM
The Stipa-Caproni was essentially an attempt to make an airplane whose entire body was one big ducted fan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stipa-Caproni


On the other hand, there were some exceedingly beautiful planes, like the Amiot 370 (a racing variant of the Amiot 340-350 series):

(http://aircollection.pagesperso-orange.fr/images/leclerc/amiot370f.jpg)

(http://aircollection.pagesperso-orange.fr/images/leclerc/amiot370e.jpg)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5480/12252065435_3bfdd96abd.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Predatorpt on October 08, 2014, 10:25:25 PM
...
On the other hand, there were some exceedingly beautiful planes, like the Amiot 370 (a racing variant of the Amiot 340-350 series):

(http://aircollection.pagesperso-orange.fr/images/leclerc/amiot370f.jpg)

(http://aircollection.pagesperso-orange.fr/images/leclerc/amiot370e.jpg)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5480/12252065435_3bfdd96abd.jpg)

Wow  :o It also looks like a racing Heinkel He 111
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on October 09, 2014, 07:41:27 AM
It looks like what the Heinkel 111 would have looked like if it had been designed by Geoffrey de Havilland.  :)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: dexter on October 27, 2014, 08:38:48 PM
THERE'S THE Polikarpov I-16   this one was an Eduard Weekend Edition 1:48 Painted in 'interesting' pulp colours
(http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt336/paul1066_photos/I16_zps9f94c313.jpg) (http://s625.photobucket.com/user/paul1066_photos/media/I16_zps9f94c313.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on October 27, 2014, 09:21:46 PM
That's swell!
Great paint scheme.

An I-16 has been on my wish list for awhile.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: dexter on October 27, 2014, 10:59:00 PM
the I16 Eduard Weekend Edition 1:48 is pretty cheap and theyre always on ebay , but they aren't the best quality kits.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: northtroll on October 28, 2014, 02:05:41 PM
Can't fool me Dexter. You are a Blue Oyster Cultist by the markings on the tail of that bird!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on October 29, 2014, 02:18:21 AM
the I16 Eduard Weekend Edition 1:48 is pretty cheap and theyre always on ebay , but they aren't the best quality kits.
Squadron also usually has them cheap, I just havent gotten around to buying into another project yet. I'm trying to be good.

Can't fool me Dexter. You are a Blue Oyster Cultist by the markings on the tail of that bird!
Aren't we all?
Don't fear the reaper!
I saw them live and they were awesome.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: The-closet-gamer on October 29, 2014, 03:43:13 AM
Got the Eduard I 16 in the stash. I've seen some really good builds at model shows, it's what made me buy one. Never thought of pulp gaming with it until now. Must get it built.

P.S. Don't fear the reaper is one of my all time favourite songs of all time.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on October 29, 2014, 05:20:55 AM
Dammit, I had a use in mind for that logo!

Well, I might as well do it anyway.  :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: starkadder on October 29, 2014, 06:22:11 AM

sorry for being dense but what is this cult you speak of?

http://www.blueoystercult.com/ (http://www.blueoystercult.com/)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on October 29, 2014, 09:49:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlGclIZV5JQ



 lol
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: starkadder on October 29, 2014, 11:04:36 AM
For clarification:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51h0DYn33EL.gif)

Blue Oyster Cult - Logo (Ankh)

And they had a ME-262 on one of their albums.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on October 29, 2014, 12:13:19 PM
Young folk these days are so culturally unaware when it comes to 70's schlock rock. You're honstly saying you have never heard Don't Fear the Reaper?  I have fond memories of finding it on the jukebox at the Nicholson Hotel in the 1980s, loading up the jukebox with about $10 and walking out. By my reckoning anyone left in the pub without the wit to pull the plug must have heard that song for the next three hours. Here's hoping they enjoyed it, it's quite long.  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUO_5EALZoM

Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: pistolpete on October 29, 2014, 01:00:21 PM
i got a fever and the only cure is more cowbell.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on October 29, 2014, 03:38:28 PM
BÖC, the inventors of Umlaut in rock music...or did you think Mötörhead were the first ones?  :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: starkadder on October 29, 2014, 10:37:50 PM
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/SMG1WCVff0I/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on October 29, 2014, 11:47:16 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on October 29, 2014, 11:58:26 PM
;)
Yesssssssssssssssssssssssss
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: starkadder on October 30, 2014, 12:03:34 AM
Back on thread, I know of some models of the DH-91 Albatross but I wonder if anyone has ever come across a 1:50 (approx) of it. (1:40-1:56)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/De_Havilland_DH.91_Albatross_G-AFDI.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: gary42 on October 30, 2014, 12:06:53 AM
That albatros is sweet.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: starkadder on October 30, 2014, 02:34:22 AM
That albatros is sweet.

Beautiful, isn't it? It's one of the cleanest designs I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: gary42 on October 30, 2014, 05:39:00 AM
Kind of a mini Constellation!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: starkadder on October 30, 2014, 06:28:20 AM
Kind of a mini Constellation!

Connie the Constellation is a beloved 'plane in NSW, Oz.
They fly her fairly regularly. Another absurdly elegant 'plane.

http://hars.org.au/2009/05/the-connie/ (http://hars.org.au/2009/05/the-connie/)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on October 30, 2014, 08:23:23 AM
Constellation. Another absurdly elegant plane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c126VLSjqR0

You couldn´t have said better. That aircraft is so unbelievably well designed, almost organic in shape and disturbingly beautiful. It is like a comic book artist sketched it. To me it is the most spectacular plane of the piston engine era. Of course 727 and F-104 are my jet age favourites... :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: gary42 on October 30, 2014, 01:59:00 PM
Constellation and the Gee Bee...  My two faves!  Both apparentky designed by cartoonists:)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: gary42 on October 30, 2014, 04:57:24 PM
If they made the lower pods on that Arctic Turn a little sleeker, it would be the bomb...So to speak.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: gary42 on October 30, 2014, 06:17:45 PM
Not entirely sure it was actually "designed" at all! lol
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on October 30, 2014, 07:52:21 PM
Connie the Constellation is a beloved 'plane in NSW, Oz.
They fly her fairly regularly. Another absurdly elegant 'plane.

http://hars.org.au/2009/05/the-connie/ (http://hars.org.au/2009/05/the-connie/)

The Constellation was a pretty plane. Then along came the de havilland Comet and made it look positively frumpy.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: starkadder on October 31, 2014, 01:13:12 AM
Then along came the de havilland Comet and made it look positively frumpy.

But...but...where are the propellers? How does such a thing stay in the air?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Wirelizard on October 31, 2014, 06:50:45 AM
I have no idea how this came to be designed but I imagine vast quantities of absinthe may have been involved.

(http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/images/vedovelli_jan1911_a_1000_PX.jpg)

A few years ago I was drinking with a group of pilots (I have my pilot's license myself) and we were passing around a reproduction copy of one of the first-ever Jane's Aircraft guides, from 1912 or so - pre-WW1.

We unanimously came to the conclusion that our esteemed forebears in aviation were all completely insane, mad as hatters, and probably had a death-wish in the bargain. We saluted them with a drink and were very glad to never have to fly anything that insane.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Blackwolf on October 31, 2014, 07:07:28 AM
But...but...where are the propellers? How does such a thing stay in the air?


You are a funny man :)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on October 31, 2014, 07:48:34 AM
But...but...where are the propellers? How does such a thing stay in the air?

Let me say this way: There are many many quite a few little tiny wee propellers in a row - one behind the other, put on a long shaft which rotates in a long tube. You can not spot that tube, because it is thoroughly hidden inside the plane...

They invented that when they noticed too many propellers got stolen.  :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on October 31, 2014, 08:15:41 AM
But...but...where are the propellers? How does such a thing stay in the air?

Short answer: magic.

Long answer: Downward pressure generated by the passage of air across an airfoil creates an equal upward force known as lift.......in other words, er magic.  :D

The sad thing about the Comet, at least the early versions, is that quite a number didn't stay in the air.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: starkadder on October 31, 2014, 08:31:03 AM
The sad thing about the Comet, at least the early versions, is that quite a number didn't stay in the air.

I knew it could never work.

I am also told there is a Book of Faces wherein people from all over the world gather and pretend they are other than what and who they are.

This New World amazes.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: former user on October 31, 2014, 08:58:13 AM
oh, that's not everything You know...
there is also a place that does not exist where people who paint miniatures gather to write each other virtual messages, but miniatures and people do not really exist unless they post pictures of painted miniatures...  ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on October 31, 2014, 09:00:03 AM
Downward pressure generated by the passage of air across an airfoil creates an equal upward force known as lift.......in other words, er magic.  :D

That didn´t quite explain the lack of propellers. Passage of air has to be generated first before you can do your "magic". I like my answer better...    ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on October 31, 2014, 09:00:54 AM
miniatures and people do not really exist unless they post pictures of painted miniatures...  ;)

THAT!!!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on October 31, 2014, 09:03:46 AM
I knew it could never work.

I am also told there is a Book of Faces Faeces wherein people from all over the world gather and pretend they are other than what and who they are.

This New World amazes.


Almost. Corrected that for you. Personally I think useful technology stopped being developed sometime around 1970, when I read about it in the Ladybird books. At least appealing technology did.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: joroas on October 31, 2014, 11:10:42 AM
(http://www.harrypricewebsite.co.uk/images/cases_images/firewalk/karachi.jpg)

They might know, but they look the sort of chaps that would string you along, keep you tied up for hours and knot be in the least helpful. At first sight they looked like twin(e)s..........

Have I got noose for you!

Is my coat by the door? :'(
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: joroas on October 31, 2014, 11:54:46 AM
Just Kitten?

(http://www.skunkwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/cat-hanging-in-rope.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on October 31, 2014, 12:12:26 PM
Is my coat by the door? :'(

Hang on, I´ll check...  :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on October 31, 2014, 12:29:44 PM
That Bill Barnes flew some great planes.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: joroas on October 31, 2014, 12:57:14 PM
(http://mysteriousbill.weebly.com/uploads/3/7/0/0/3700635/9912526.jpg?387)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: joroas on October 31, 2014, 01:01:17 PM
(http://www.aviationbanter.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8663&d=1175574838)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on October 31, 2014, 01:16:17 PM

you can see the flying wing design better in this

(http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/ModernMechanix/3-1936/non_stop.jpg)

Not to forget in this context: Junkers G 38 with passenger compartment in both fuselage AND wings!
(http://www.junkers.de/sites/default/files/styles/artikel_inline/public/media/ABJ_590_J38_038.jpg)
(http://www.junkers.de/sites/default/files/styles/artikel_inline/public/media/ABJ_590_J38_002.jpg)
(http://www.junkers.de/sites/default/files/styles/artikel_inline/public/media/ABJ_590_J38_004.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: former user on October 31, 2014, 01:42:40 PM
I was wondering, when do we let the pulp era end? 1950?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mr. Peabody on October 31, 2014, 02:49:50 PM
OMG, is it over already? I haven't got my rocket-pack yet...

Probably another conservative budget cut. Harper has a lot to answer for.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mr. Peabody on October 31, 2014, 02:59:03 PM
Still waiting for my rocket pack. 2XL, please. Pretty sure it's overdue, fuzzy or not.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mr. Peabody on October 31, 2014, 03:38:17 PM
Much appreciated~! 8) 8) 8) :-*

I can sleep easier now.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: joroas on October 31, 2014, 04:55:35 PM
(http://media.tumblr.com/a7d9b479780151174780b7bf6bb5ac51/tumblr_inline_nayoqsl3Gj1qhql60.jpg)
(http://images.neopets.com/pp/scorchio_logo.gif)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: joroas on October 31, 2014, 05:22:02 PM
(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/da/7e/c4/da7ec478e04d8389650595238847c077.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: joroas on October 31, 2014, 05:39:36 PM
...and the 21st C:

(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs40/f/2009/018/1/3/Rocket_Cat_mouse_hunting_by_BussiArtStudio.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: pacarat on January 10, 2015, 09:44:37 PM
Picked this up at a local hobby store this week...sourced from an estate sale

Metal diecast kit, dont see these that often.

(http://home.comcast.net/~pacarat/pics/misc/pulp/IMG_9596.JPG)

(http://home.comcast.net/~pacarat/pics/misc/pulp/IMG_9597.JPG)


And from the 'net:

(http://home.comcast.net/~pacarat/pics/misc/pulp/IMG_9598.JPG)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on January 10, 2015, 10:11:49 PM
Great find pacarat!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on January 10, 2015, 10:21:07 PM
Very nice! How big is it overall (measurements, etc.)? I wonder if it could be converted to look like a trimotor...
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on January 10, 2015, 10:43:41 PM
Great find pacarat!

Indeed!!!

I'm quite tempted.

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-NAVY-BELLANCA-SKYROCKET-DIECAST-AIRPLANE-FIRSTGEAR-/360280303124 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-NAVY-BELLANCA-SKYROCKET-DIECAST-AIRPLANE-FIRSTGEAR-/360280303124)

THIS rascal claims to have more'n 10, @ $19 US each...

The $12 shipping is a tad offputting though.

Quote
this 1/44 scale, metal and plastic model of the classic, six-seat Bellanca includes fine details such as textured wing struts and steps below the cabin doors, an engine assembly with complete cylinder detailing, a rotating propeller and free-rolling wheels, pre-painted parts decorated with Mack markings and Bulldog roundels, and more. 12½" wingspan.

Might be a tad small for a tri-motor, even with the scale difference

real wingspan = 47' 4"
model = 12.5' = 1/44.44

in 1/55 scale 12.5' = 57.29'

Ford Trimotor     77' 10" wingspan
Fokker Trimotor  71'  2" wingspan
Stinson Trimotor 60' wingspan 

I've flown in the Stinson at Oshkosh, such a sweet ship she is!!
   
YMMV

Valerik

needs another project like I need another neck

EDIT: added found/derived data
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: pacarat on January 10, 2015, 11:13:58 PM
Yeah, finding a medium sized transport plane in the right scale has been tough. Most planes are single/dual cockpits, or ginormous long distance transports.

This will be perfect for running full teams or precious cargo into/out of remote areas... :)

12" wingspan
~6" fuselage length

Not sure on the trimotor... Think they were much bigger.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on January 10, 2015, 11:38:25 PM

12" wingspan
~6" fuselage length


Thanks pacarat.

Is it in fact a full foot, a 12" wingspan rather than the advertised 12.5"?

That half inch shouldn't make that much difference,
though she seemed to think so...

I'd sure love to see a picture of her with a Murch or Copplestone figure nearby.

Valerik

just 'plane crazy, but picky too...

EDIT  My miserable spelling

Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: pacarat on January 10, 2015, 11:47:02 PM
Sorry, I just did a quick check with a tape measure, with the wing still in the box.

Not sure when I'll get it put together, but will be sure to post a pic when done.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on January 10, 2015, 11:58:27 PM
Wow, only 6" long? That seems very short!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on January 11, 2015, 02:04:05 AM
Wow, only 6" long? That seems very short!

Quote

"That's what she said..."


It's a light transport, not an airliner, 27'9" long overall, 1 pilot 5 passengers.

Think BIG Piper or Cessna, lots of wing, short body.

This one does it with plenty of style though!!

Valerik

"Dancin' Truth's gossamer tightrope..."
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on January 11, 2015, 02:06:17 AM
I can understand that, but the box image above sure doesn't make it look like a 2:1 ratio between wingspan and fuselage length. Maybe it's just the angle of the shot.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on January 11, 2015, 02:17:45 AM
Bellanca plan

(http://www.internetmodeler.com/2004/october/first-looks/KH_Skyrocket-2.jpg)

That photograph does makes her look kinda shortish to my Mk I eyeball...

Sure wish they hadda float option with that kit...

(http://www.mtaonline.net/~zdk/images/F.71_PIAad2.jpg)

Still a damn nice bird...

My resolve is weakening....

Valerik

Must. Stay. Strong.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: pacarat on January 11, 2015, 04:25:42 AM
Kit is very nice. Looks like mostly snap in, a few screws here and there. Nice metallic finish - I probably won't even bother to paint it.

Diecast vs. plastic is something to consider as well.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: The-closet-gamer on January 11, 2015, 06:09:51 AM
I think this May have been posted but if not I'll be taking all the credit.
Russian K-7 heavy bomber. Nuff said!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: d phipps on January 11, 2015, 06:27:57 AM
Here's the Curtiss R3C I put together. Ready for some Pulp Alley action ---

(http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o665/pulpalley/Vehicles/Planes%20and%20Boats/1100_7464_zpsf77f07a0.jpg)


Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on January 11, 2015, 08:13:29 AM
Here's the Curtiss R3C I put together. Ready for some Pulp Alley action ---

Very spiffy Dave!!

Who's kit is that?  Hawk/Testor's or FineMolds?

Didja just use a BIG Ultra-Inviso base for the prop?
Or does she have hints of prop swirl?

I really like the distinctive, yet discrete markings.

Valerik

unabashed Doolittle worshiper, James H AND Alfred P

EDIT my miserable spelling
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: pacarat on January 11, 2015, 05:15:08 PM
Thanks pacarat.

Is it in fact a full foot, a 12" wingspan rather than the advertised 12.5"?

That half inch shouldn't make that much difference,
though she seemed to think so...

I'd sure love to see a picture of her with a Murch or Copplestone figure nearby.

Valerik

just 'plane crazy, but picky too...

EDIT  My miserable spelling


Exactly 12.5" wingspan.

Was going to assemble it this morning, but decided I dont want US Navy markings on a civvie A/C. So now the question is whether to remove or paint over.  They dont look like decals, more like sprayed using a stencil.

Any recommendations from the Cabal?


Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Vanvlak on January 11, 2015, 05:23:28 PM
Indeed!!!

I'm quite tempted.

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-NAVY-BELLANCA-SKYROCKET-DIECAST-AIRPLANE-FIRSTGEAR-/360280303124 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-NAVY-BELLANCA-SKYROCKET-DIECAST-AIRPLANE-FIRSTGEAR-/360280303124)

THIS rascal claims to have more'n 10, @ $19 US each...

The $12 shipping is a tad offputting though.


Valerik

needs another project like I need another neck

EDIT: added found/derived data

15$ from this site:
http://www.firstgeartrucks.com/misc.-ertl-others/us-navy-bellanca-skyrocket-diecast-model-kit-ltd.-sale/ (http://www.firstgeartrucks.com/misc.-ertl-others/us-navy-bellanca-skyrocket-diecast-model-kit-ltd.-sale/)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on January 11, 2015, 05:37:49 PM
Love the colours on the Curtiss, Dave!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: gary42 on January 11, 2015, 06:40:14 PM
Awesome build!  Can'take wait to see it on the table!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Constable Bertrand on January 11, 2015, 08:28:19 PM
I just added this ... Waiting for her to arrive.

(http://www.anticsonline.co.uk/l.aspx?k=2173968)

Not the most beautiful plane, not iconically pulp, but so popular IRL you could make a WW1 movie using only these.
The mighty tiger moth.

Cheers
Matt.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on January 11, 2015, 10:24:42 PM
Exactly 12.5" wingspan.

Was going to assemble it this morning, but decided I dont want US Navy markings on a civvie A/C. So now the question is whether to remove or paint over.  They dont look like decals, more like sprayed using a stencil.

Any recommendations from the Cabal?




Just spray primer or your base color right over it all and get starter!
Thats what I do.
 ;)



Dave, great work on the Curtis!
But just wait till the Red Pig or LoneStar shows up to collect the bounty.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: d phipps on January 12, 2015, 02:36:59 AM
I just added this ... Waiting for her to arrive.

(http://www.anticsonline.co.uk/l.aspx?k=2173968)

Not the most beautiful plane, not iconically pulp, but so popular IRL you could make a WW1 movie using only these.
The mighty tiger moth.


Very cool! I think that's a great one. Two-seaters were the used quite often in the old serials too. I wish I had more of them as well.

Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Constable Bertrand on January 12, 2015, 08:07:23 AM
Exactly dave! Many TV shows have the hero and side kick arriving in a light plane. Miss Marple, Downton Abby, Pirot (not him of course, but Capt Hastings and other young lords. And on tight film budgets, often the ubiquitous Tiger Moth gets the summons.

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on January 12, 2015, 08:21:57 AM
Probably about the most useful model ever. The DH 60 Moth family was a common site from the mid 1920s through to the 1950s and they were utterly ubiquitous. If you aren't a rivet counter than you can get away with he one basic model but conversion to earlier types shouldn't be overly taxing.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Bob Murch on February 07, 2015, 09:15:03 PM
I've been meaning to upgrade my Pulp air fleet and first up is Flying Officer Biggles and his shiny silver Hawker Fury, one of the prettiest bi-planes ever built in my opinion.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 07, 2015, 10:16:56 PM
Has anyone any Idea where the water line on the floats would be on the Fairchild F71 ?
I be honest I was looking to make Cutter's Goose.But I thought this would be a easy practice build.As I'm not familiar with sea plane's.
Thank's Mark.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Duke Donald on February 07, 2015, 10:25:25 PM
The Hawker Fury is a pretty plane indeed, and yours is lovely.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Bob Murch on February 10, 2015, 08:15:39 PM
Working on another renown Pulp Era flyer's bird.

Bob
www.pulpfigures.com
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on February 11, 2015, 04:49:29 AM
Bob, thats two stunning planes.
Thank you for the inspiration.
Is it the Jenny the 1/48 Lindberg kit?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Bob Murch on February 12, 2015, 07:26:04 PM
It is indeed the 1/48 Lindberg kit. Quite nice to build IMO.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: gary42 on February 13, 2015, 01:54:27 AM
That's triple sweet.  We gonna see it at Trumpeter Salute!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Bob Murch on February 13, 2015, 05:03:35 PM
I plan on being at Trumpeter Salute so it'll be there if I can make it across the Coke.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: gary42 on February 13, 2015, 11:47:42 PM
Yah...  I'm not a fan of that road in the winter...  Hope you make it!  I need some gangsters!:)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: juergen c. olk on February 20, 2015, 02:56:27 AM
Love the Great WaldoPepper plane. and now for something completely different.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on February 20, 2015, 06:37:57 AM
Love the Great WaldoPepper plane. and now for something completely different.

Not quite sure whether that's taking the mobility scooter or the Segway to its obvious but illogical conclusion. Either way I  predict that the food courts of shopping malls will become a damn sight more dangerous come pension day if that thing takes a hold of the imagination of the elderly and infirm.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Big Martin Back on February 20, 2015, 01:44:15 PM
I need one of them - it would make travelling to work an awful lot easier (and more fun). Though I might lose out a bit on the reading I can get in on my (interminable) bus journey. :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Constable Bertrand on March 06, 2015, 12:09:01 AM
Harrison Ford Crashed his ryan pt!  :'( Get well harrison and plane.

(http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/6285472-3x2-700x467.jpg)

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on March 06, 2015, 01:29:55 AM
000000OOOOOOOOoooooooooh...

That's a damn shame, she's bent pretty bad it seems.

Not at all sure that's gonna buff out.

Still PTs are tough, but they weren't built to last this long.

Glad the pilot's tough too!!

Valerik

too old to search for pranged 'planes anymore

EDIT error of omission
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: wolfen on March 06, 2015, 02:13:21 AM
Maybe he was trying to make the Kessel run in under 11 parsecs. You know, beat the old record.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on March 06, 2015, 07:34:27 AM
That's one fellow who's not having much luck with injuries lately.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: The-closet-gamer on March 06, 2015, 05:53:53 PM
I hope Han Solo makes a full recovery. He's got another two Star Wars films to do. After that he can crash as many planes as he wants cause to put it bluntly who care about another Indy Jones film after the last outing.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on March 15, 2015, 02:55:18 PM
What about the Lee-Richards Annular Monoplane?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on March 15, 2015, 02:58:03 PM
....or the Caproni Ca.60 Transaero?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on March 15, 2015, 03:01:41 PM
Handley Page H.P.42 anyone?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on March 15, 2015, 03:06:58 PM
I do like this one De Havilland D.H.88 Comet racer.........
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on March 15, 2015, 03:11:10 PM
...and the Sikorsky Bolshoi. Apparently during flight, passengers were invited out on to the balcony to enjoy the view, how civilised!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Jackmunchkin on April 14, 2015, 04:33:21 PM
Does anyone know if a Junker 52 or Ford Tri-Motor 1/48 scale can be found ?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on April 14, 2015, 04:46:27 PM
Does anyone know if a Junker 52 or Ford Tri-Motor 1/48 scale can be found ?


Revell make a 1/48 Ju 52. IIRC someone on here built one.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on April 14, 2015, 06:43:54 PM
 I don't know what your skill base is.But last year I had a chat with Fram,here on the forum about tri engine planes,and ended up putting my money where my mouth is.Which ment writing a tutorial on building a Fokker tri engine plane from cereal packet card.The tutorial would take very little tweeking to come up with a model for the planes your looking for.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Wolf Girl on April 14, 2015, 07:25:37 PM
Great looking plane!  :-* :-*
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on April 14, 2015, 11:28:17 PM
Does anyone know if a Junker 52 ...

Franklin Mint does a die cast one in 1/48 that is sweet looking if a bit pricey.
They also do the iconic DC-3.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Jackmunchkin on April 15, 2015, 10:38:31 AM
Thanks guys, managed to find the Junker 52 from Revell.
Really a pity that some famous big planes are missing in 1/48 scale. The Ford Trimotor especially (nice custom work up there).
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on April 15, 2015, 11:46:02 AM
There is also a 1/50 scale paper kit from Schreiber Modellbaubögen of the Ju52...less pricey than any, but a lot more work though.  :D

http://www.amazon.de/Junkers-Ju-52-3m-Folie/dp/3480711278
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Jackmunchkin on April 15, 2015, 01:20:56 PM
The pic looks impressive, I'm curious what it looks like for real (before assembly and in progress :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Ballardian on April 15, 2015, 05:22:57 PM
"Does anyone know if a Junker 52 or Ford Tri-Motor 1/48 scale can be found ?"
Have a look at aikensairplanes.com  - they have a bunch of Tri - Motors at 1/43 at various prices, I think the cheapest is about $60, (weirdly, there's a humungus 1/38 scale one cheaper)all the way up to "nurse, fetch the crash cart!".
 Hope this helps & good luck with the project.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Jackmunchkin on April 17, 2015, 10:33:18 AM
Looks very good, thanks a lot. I'll keep you posted on my future projects. I saw amazing things here and I will be starting crafting stuff very soon for a Call of Cthulhu Pulpstyle adventure. I just bought 2 Playmobil Titan cargos and will try to build my sort of "Doreen".
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on April 17, 2015, 11:20:28 AM
I just bought 2 Playmobil Titan cargos and will try to build my sort of "Doreen".

That sounds promising, please keep us updated with photos and feel free to ask if you need assistance...  :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Jackmunchkin on April 17, 2015, 01:57:58 PM
Thanks Michi, yes I'll post pics on my blog (http://www.oldschoolnostalgia.wordpress.com)

I'm essentially curious how you managed to glue so imperceptibly the two cut boats together. I showed your boat to a friend who is into playmobil customization and he was properly amazed by your work !
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on April 17, 2015, 02:55:15 PM
I'm essentially curious how you managed to glue so imperceptibly the two cut boats together.

A bit off topic in this thread, but it´s all in this picture: Separation of the grey and red (outer and inner) hull parts, polystyrene plates in the right places and Revell polystyrene putty plus a thorough sanding...
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/MiniaturenfotosOriginale023.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Jackmunchkin on April 17, 2015, 03:23:02 PM
Cool  ! sorry for disgressing from the main subject... extra question : what are the german vehicles shown inside the boat ?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on April 17, 2015, 08:50:08 PM
A bit off topic in this thread, but it´s all in this picture: Separation of the grey and red (outer and inner) hull parts, polystyrene plates in the right places and Revell polystyrene putty plus a thorough sanding...
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/MiniaturenfotosOriginale023.jpg)


Michi,
You have a wonder way of making the uber hard sound so pleasantly simple.  ;D

Jack,
I look forward to seeing your ship's progression.


Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: pistolpete on April 18, 2015, 09:07:44 PM
There's already a thread for pulp boats here: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=64372.0
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Jackmunchkin on April 25, 2015, 02:35:21 PM
Getting back into topic. My first model in 30+ years… F**ed up the decals but it's still ok. It's my next CoC character. Model is AMT 1/48 Lockheed Vega airplane.

(https://oldschoolnostalgia.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/img_0383.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on April 25, 2015, 02:52:14 PM
That's really nice.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on April 25, 2015, 04:01:46 PM
Oooh luvverly!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: d phipps on April 25, 2015, 04:07:12 PM
Great looking plane!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on April 29, 2015, 03:22:28 AM
Getting back into topic. My first model in 30+ years… F**ed up the decals but it's still ok. It's my next CoC character. Model is AMT 1/48 Lockheed Vega airplane.

(https://oldschoolnostalgia.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/img_0383.jpg)

That is beautiful!

I tried building that kit and got so frustrated with the wings I put it away for conversion into a wreck one day.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Jackmunchkin on April 30, 2015, 09:00:28 AM
 I have to admit it was quite messy to build ! The wings were not too difficult imho but the floaters were quite a pain to assemble and glue. The worst being the decals which I totally destroyed while trying to apply them. In the end, still worth the effort.
I am now waiting from post office the 2 next planes for my projects : a Revell Junker 52 and a SMER Walrus Supermarine MK2.
My project is having the floatplanes go as carried planes on cargo boats from Playmobil for some mixed Call of Cthulhu / Hollow Earth Expedition style RPG campaign, full of nazis and pulp bad guys.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on April 30, 2015, 09:17:50 AM
Call of Cthulhu / Hollow Earth Expedition style RPG campaign, full of nazis and pulp bad guys.

Isn´t it exactly this what we all want to play?  :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Jackmunchkin on May 02, 2015, 07:06:42 PM
My Junker 52 is in progress… it's huuuge.
(https://scontent-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11143147_1589126328039268_941728445449248291_n.jpg?oh=ff07cfbed95c101841563752968dd3d8&oe=55D1C391)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on May 02, 2015, 07:47:16 PM
Wow! That's almost a whole Pulp Alley table on it's own. Good scale though. And so prettyyyyy  :-*
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warlord frod on May 02, 2015, 11:54:59 PM
Very nice. Please be sure to post a picture when its done and again when you use it in a game.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: d phipps on May 03, 2015, 05:13:52 AM
Lovely! Looks like lots of fun.  ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Constable Bertrand on May 03, 2015, 05:39:52 AM
 :-*  :-* lovely! if practically a little on the large side. (the minis look great though!!!!)

A airport terminal/control tower, a Ford Model A truck, and a few PT Trainers/Tiger Moths would make a wonderful rural airport battle.

Cheers
Matt

Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on May 03, 2015, 12:28:21 PM
Great minds Matt,in the middle of building one,just need to finish off an airship,and a couple of boat tutorials I've been asked to do first .Then I'll post pictures of the finished air field.
Mark.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Ballardian on May 03, 2015, 01:42:22 PM
The 'Auntie Ju' looks great, love to see the finished article. what did you use for the base aluminium coat, it looks really good.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on May 03, 2015, 05:51:35 PM
I suspect that's a metal model kit.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Jackmunchkin on May 03, 2015, 07:53:30 PM
I actually used what I had at hand, that is Montana Hardcore silver spray paint :D So it's not metal, it's the Revell 04519 ref of the Ju52/43m g 4e
Besides of a first GW chaos black undercoat, I finally changed my mind to make it civilian and decided to paint it silver (think 1936 Olympiades Junker 52 civilian style). I'll paint it this way (excepting Olympiades decals)

(http://www.bmi-models.com/download/Low%20res%20fotos/Junkers-Olymp.jpg)

Here is the model assembled. Which is quite big !
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11206050_1589408538011047_5649837005771069210_n.jpg?oh=4e7bfa1813be682b7da1265d9b764955&oe=55E6046F&__gda__=1439554565_c77de57de149ffb848170533c3ed7e9a)

I didn't glue the rooftop and door to keep it versatile for RPGs.
(https://scontent-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11209759_1589408861344348_2615991049033737628_n.jpg?oh=7f1f9987935224c56682b6df64f10985&oe=55C5211A)

Extra : close-up of the german officer ;-)
(https://scontent-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11161350_1589133558038545_7301988558393699996_n.jpg?oh=9f59a110e3ef89e7a05d6736e2430fbf&oe=55C86F1D)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Traveler Man on May 03, 2015, 10:03:13 PM
Impressive!  :)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Constable Bertrand on May 03, 2015, 10:48:00 PM
All kinds of awesome  o_o, I am a little envious. :D

Good thing it's civilian silver, it's much more practical in a range of gaming scenarios that way. :)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Wolf Girl on May 03, 2015, 11:33:42 PM
Looks great!  :-* :-*
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on May 03, 2015, 11:43:49 PM
It does look good.

Now I'm looking forward to someone fielding a 1/48 Spruce Goose on their (presumably very strong and capacious) gaming table.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on May 04, 2015, 02:36:04 AM
All kinds of awesome  o_o, I am a little envious. :D

Good thing it's civilian silver, it's much more practical in a range of gaming scenarios that way. :)

Exactly. Interwar you wouldn't really see the military versions. And the military could be commandeering a civilian one in a pinch anyway.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Jackmunchkin on May 04, 2015, 08:38:50 AM
I'd be willing to make a tin goose but I'll pass my turn on the spruce goose  :o
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on May 04, 2015, 07:59:48 PM
You could play a whole scenario entirely inside of that one!  lol
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Constable Bertrand on May 04, 2015, 10:43:49 PM
You could play a whole scenario entirely inside of that one!  lol

Just the one scenario though... Will she take off?

lol lol
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on May 06, 2015, 06:34:48 AM
That is great work.  :-*
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on May 06, 2015, 08:56:53 AM
Just the one scenario though... Will she take off?

lol lol
Guess that depends on if ol' Howard has shaved or not.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Doomsdave on May 08, 2015, 03:19:45 AM
Isn´t it exactly this what we all want to play?  :D

At least I think it's what we are all trying for ( I know I am in my own ham-fisted, scatter-brained fashion).
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: PortCharmers on May 15, 2015, 01:05:03 AM
Hello,

some folks were asking about Ju 52s and Ford Tri-Motors in 1/48 scale. Revell's Ju 52 has already been mentioned (and shown). I have a Schreiber-Bogen Card-kit for the Tri-Motor in 1/50, which I haven't gotten round to build yet (I'm too ham-fisted for card-models). They also offer a Handley-Page HP 42, and a Ju 52.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on May 15, 2015, 04:43:07 AM
Whoa! That card kit sounds interesting! Hmmmm...
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Jackmunchkin on May 15, 2015, 09:35:37 AM
Any link about these card kits ?
On my side I found interesting and cheap stuff here, worth a try I think given the cheap price !

http://www.ecardmodels.com/index.php/1-48-raaf-ford-trimotor-a45-1-paper-model.html
http://www.ecardmodels.com/index.php/1-48-a26-short-sunderland-nj184-raaf.html

Could probably be converted to balsa / plastic crafting... hmmm
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: PortCharmers on May 15, 2015, 11:56:17 AM
There you go:

http://www.schreiber-bogen.com/cat.php?dev=1&ac=3&t=178

http://www.schreiber-bogen.com/cat.php?dev=1&ac=3&t=176

Just realised that the Handley Page is a real giant
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Jackmunchkin on May 15, 2015, 02:24:03 PM
Woah really nice !
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on May 15, 2015, 07:19:26 PM
Indeed and they do a Do-27 in 1/50.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on May 16, 2015, 04:08:22 PM
An interesting find,there's a few tempting models.
Matt having a good look through I noticed that the do a couple of air field sets with buildings,and a re fuelling tanker.and the tin hut is in their free section.its a building with a lot more uses than just an air field,and required very little effort to strengthen with card.typical I've spent time reinventing the wheel when I could have just downloaded a set lol
Mark.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on May 16, 2015, 11:16:18 PM
Oh, I have a cunning plan for a refuelling tanker/oil truck... if I ever get around to it.  lol
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on May 17, 2015, 09:31:12 AM
Oh, I have a cunning plan for a refuelling tanker/oil truck... if I ever get around to it.  lol

Pulp is: Refueling from 55gal oil drums!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: YPU on May 17, 2015, 12:53:26 PM
Pulp is: Refueling from 55gal oil drums!
Reminds me I should probably print a few more of those.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on May 17, 2015, 03:53:33 PM
It's ok, I have plenty of oil drums to paint too  lol
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on May 17, 2015, 07:02:10 PM
It's ok, I have plenty of oil drums to paint too  lol

...and that will save you from scratchbuilding a refueling truck!  :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on May 18, 2015, 02:30:23 AM
Pulp is: Refueling from 55gal oil drums!

Not always...   :D

(http://pics.imcdb.org/10795/vlcsnap-2012-07-23-14h03m17s211.jpg)

Oppps!  ;D
(http://pics.imcdb.org/10795/vlcsnap-2012-07-23-14h03m24s36.jpg)

So much for the Jenny...  ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on May 18, 2015, 03:28:54 AM
...and that will save you from scratchbuilding a refueling truck!  :D

Not really a scratchbuild, more an unholy coupling of two Matchbox items.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Jackmunchkin on May 18, 2015, 10:04:05 AM
There is a 1/48 fuel tank Opel Blitz at Italeri

http://www.militarymodelling.com/news/article/kfz-385-opel-tankwagen-in-1-48/7469
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Jackmunchkin on May 18, 2015, 10:28:57 AM
or : http://www.ebay.com/itm/191123958091?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: PortCharmers on May 20, 2015, 11:42:01 AM
so, let's see how inserting pictures works in this Forum (and show off a bit of my work along the way)...

My Bookshelf Air-and-Space Museum just re-opened after a dusting-action. Inspired by the forum it now displays some of the more pulpy exhibits from my collection. I'm still a bit unsure what exactly pulp is, but I think these should fit in:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iAFNPrdioBE/VVxftyBH5CI/AAAAAAAABZI/YTLkKUM0FEQ/s720/Mai%2525202015%252520121.JPG)
No visitors yet.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jWvybk3DIEc/VVxfu5M6TDI/AAAAAAAABZU/LVYRwdJJrl0/s720/Mai%2525202015%252520123.JPG)

Left to right:
Douglas TBD Devastator (a reissue of an old Monogram kit)
Fairey Swordfish (by Tamiya)
Curtiss S3C (Testors)
Hughes H1b (Planet Models)
SPAD SXIII (Dragon)
Junkers F13 (Franklin Mint)
Bachem Natter (Dragon)
Polikarpov I 16 (Academy)
Rumpler Tropfenwagen (I have no idea)
Rolls Royce Merlin engine and Messerschmitt Bf 109 Interior and William Beebe's Bathysphere in the background.

Everything in 1/48, Except the Junkers (1/50) and the Car (1/43).

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-A2oYazpCt0w/VVxh7sZwSEI/AAAAAAAABZw/G9XRpJEdwDE/s720/Mai%2525202015%252520124.JPG)
In the outdoors-exhibit: Revell's Junkers Ju-52

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nCkUyZ8zp_E/VVxfve1jusI/AAAAAAAABZc/Dy7oirY_16o/s912/Mai%2525202015%252520126.JPG)
The Museum also offers scenic flights in a swiss Ju...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-P-lmy-btRaU/VVxfwNrTAOI/AAAAAAAABZg/kOYxr1tX5Ww/s1024/Mai%2525202015%252520129.JPG)
...and owns an airworthy example of the most classic of airliners.

Cheers
Peter
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Jackmunchkin on May 20, 2015, 01:16:44 PM
Woah lovely !
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on May 20, 2015, 05:39:43 PM
 :o
Words fail me.
Wow....
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: YPU on May 20, 2015, 07:41:38 PM
I'm still a bit unsure what exactly pulp is,

When you figure it out let me know!
Really its more of a feeling then a fact.  lol

A most impressive collection you have there. And also a very nice display method. Do you actually game with them or are they display only?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: PortCharmers on May 20, 2015, 08:41:26 PM
OK, I suspected so.

Thanks for the flowers.

No, I'm not gaming at all (yet). I'm more into making things. My collection built up in the last 20 or so years (the planes on the pictures however are more recent works), with planes from different nations, times, theatres of operation, mass-products, oddballs and rare prototypes. I thought that in reality, you find a collection like this (and probably most other model collections) only in a museum. The "slice" of hangar is taylormade to fit a cell of my bookshelf.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on May 20, 2015, 09:27:24 PM
Fantastic collection!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on May 22, 2015, 08:10:38 AM
I just saw this and thought it was worth sharing.....

(http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal14/13401-13500/gal13455-C450-Louis/01.jpg)

Details of the model can be found here;
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234941954-finished-helene-boucher-148-caudron-racer-c450-jmgt-ffsmc-decals/

Tony
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on May 22, 2015, 09:43:13 AM
That's a lovely looking plane and reading the blog, the figure was sculpted by the guy who made the plane, nice work.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on May 22, 2015, 03:54:08 PM
When air travel had style and was not the cattle transportation of today...

https://youtu.be/gzGCZLUI9FE (https://youtu.be/gzGCZLUI9FE)

It's at least somewhat wrong though. The first four-engine aircraft was long before 1930; I believe it was Igor Sikorsky's 'Russky Vityaz' (which later became Russia's Ilya Muromets heavy bomber in WWI).
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: d phipps on May 22, 2015, 10:17:27 PM
Cool! Thanks for posting!  :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Constable Bertrand on May 25, 2015, 11:42:09 AM
Nice hanger! Welcome to the fold! Thanks for posting an awesome picture.

Ive just added another aero to my production line. The studio ghibli Mitsubishi, which I think is suitably pulpy.

(https://d2ev13g7cze5ka.cloudfront.net/fnm/fnmfg-07_1.jpg?v=1424400836)

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Vanvlak on May 25, 2015, 11:44:50 AM
Nice hanger! Welcome to the fold! Thanks for posting an awesome picture.

Ive just added another aero to my production line. The studio ghibli Mitsubishi, which I think is suitably pulpy.

(https://d2ev13g7cze5ka.cloudfront.net/fnm/fnmfg-07_1.jpg?v=1424400836)

Cheers
Matt
That is superb  8) 8) 8) 8)
Nice addition.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: PortCharmers on May 27, 2015, 07:31:21 PM
Now that's a beauty. Is it a kit? And if yes, by whom?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: mysteriousbill on May 27, 2015, 07:41:00 PM
When air travel had style and was not the cattle transportation of today...

https://youtu.be/gzGCZLUI9FE (https://youtu.be/gzGCZLUI9FE)

Wow a whole 105 MPH, what a racer :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Constable Bertrand on May 27, 2015, 10:42:57 PM
Now that's a beauty. Is it a kit? And if yes, by whom?

It's a finemolds 1/48 kit from the Wind Rises. Sorry I should have put in more info.

Here's a link to hobbylink Japan product page.
https://www.hlj.com/product/FNMFG-07/ (https://www.hlj.com/product/FNMFG-07/)

Cheers
Matt.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on May 29, 2015, 02:31:40 AM
Great find.
That Mitsubishi is on my wish list now!

And if you liked those, check out these from Miyazaki's first seeries "Future Boy Conan."
(http://collectiondx.com/files/aofal1.jpg)
In 1/72 but it looks easy enough to convert to 1/48.
https://www.hlj.com/product/AOS00945/Sci (https://www.hlj.com/product/AOS00945/Sci)

and  ;D
(http://plamoya.com/bmz_cache/c/c4cc85d8927859a58cb83d7402aa84f1.image.500x334.jpg)
(http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig22/10223374t2.jpg&imgrefurl=https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10223374t2/60/2&h=1200&w=836&tbnid=Tp6GkelajSOtdM:&zoom=1&docid=wKxK4cIKu7jy_M&itg=1&ei=ur5nVeaXE4u2ogSosIHQAg&tbm=isch&ved=0CCUQMygJMAk)
in 1/700 but maybe could be converted into 1/200 for Crimson Skys
https://www.hlj.com/product/AOS00432/Sci (https://www.hlj.com/product/AOS00432/Sci)

Also, if you're not familiar with the airplane art of Romain Hugault, google him now!
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/b6/fa/3e/b6fa3ed92df12146bc52b5fac232ea1c.jpg)
(http://img15.nnm.ru/d/e/6/c/9/89cdce2ce55ace94a7dcc1a0a1a.jpg)
(http://speedbirds.free.fr/Board/PH1.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZnClB6M7qgw/U-iZq_RleoI/AAAAAAAABDo/1rXiUeDJl-0/s1600/11-15.jpg)


Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: twrchtrwyth on May 30, 2015, 02:39:06 PM
Wow, just finished this thread having discovered it two days ago. Some amazing planes and painting. Excellent resource for what kits have been made too. I have the Lublin floatplane half finished, I need to glue the floats to the plane. If anyone wants a pic of it next to a 28mm mini I'm happy to oblige.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: d phipps on May 30, 2015, 03:59:36 PM
Beautiful art! Thanks for posting.  :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: War In 15MM on June 14, 2015, 09:20:52 PM
For more than a decade of swap meeting hunting I have been keeping my eyes open in the hope of finding the German flying wing from the movie Raiders of the Lost Ark.  Years ago I found part of one at the swap meet so I knew that it would work well with 15mm figures, but my hunt for a usable version was fruitless until last week when I saw it upside down in a pile of broken toys.  One of its props was missing but otherwise it was in great shape and cost me only $3.  The props have now been replaced, and she was well worth the hunt.
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j366/rgarretson/IMG_1113_zpssnke0alw.jpg) (http://s1082.photobucket.com/user/rgarretson/media/IMG_1113_zpssnke0alw.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on June 14, 2015, 09:45:07 PM
For more than a decade of swap meeting hunting I have been keeping my eyes open in the hope of finding the German flying wing from the movie Raiders of the Lost Ark.  Years ago I found part of one at the swap meet so I knew that it would work well with 15mm figures, but my hunt for a usable version was fruitless until last week when I saw it upside down in a pile of broken toys.  One of its props was missing but otherwise it was in great shape and cost me only $3.  The props have now been replaced, and she was well worth the hunt.
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j366/rgarretson/IMG_1113_zpssnke0alw.jpg) (http://s1082.photobucket.com/user/rgarretson/media/IMG_1113_zpssnke0alw.jpg.html)

Great find! It´s an iconic movie prop!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: PortCharmers on June 14, 2015, 10:16:48 PM
Hello there,

don't know about the rest of you, but I'd definitely like to see a Lublin floatplane.

And how did this outrageously fancy prototype end up in Egypt, to be misused as the world's most impractical cargo-plane? Nice model, anyway.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on June 15, 2015, 04:51:35 AM
A 1:48 model does exist, but I'm not 100% sure who makes it?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/Ryszard58/MOJE%20MODELE/PB200266.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/Ryszard58/MOJE%20MODELE/PB200265.jpg)

EDIT: Looks like it's by "Mirage Hobby"?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Vanvlak on June 15, 2015, 06:50:05 AM
Very nice beastie, that floatplane.

Idon't think this one's been posted yet, and I have to admit I was unaware of it - the Bleriot 125.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Bleriot_125.svg)

Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on June 15, 2015, 09:28:29 AM
A 1:48 model does exist, but I'm not 100% sure who makes it?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/Ryszard58/MOJE%20MODELE/PB200266.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/Ryszard58/MOJE%20MODELE/PB200265.jpg)

EDIT: Looks like it's by "Mirage Hobby"?

Mirage Hobby? Makes sense, they are a Polish company. Dunno what their 1/48 kits are like but whilst very accurate their 1/72 kits have a reputation for being rather fiddly. IIRC they are all short run kits.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on June 15, 2015, 12:25:21 PM
This is one of my favourite sea planes for pulp gaming,it's easy to convert and customise,and was used by multiple nationalities.
This 1/48 kit is always on eBay for around ten pounds they also do a number of other sea planes.
Length 23.6cm,wing span 29cm. Which is about as big as I can fit comfortably on a table.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Constable Bertrand on June 15, 2015, 01:27:27 PM
I just started poking my SMER tiger moth, the kit isn't very clean, heaps of flash, and the detail is low, but it's bargain for $10 and seems very robust for gaming :)

A little filler will go a long way I think.

But I certainly will not be putting the 2D flash extruded pilots in.  >:(

How'd you find the smer range Mark?

Cheers
Matt.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on June 15, 2015, 07:21:30 PM
Hi Matt,
I don't actually use the figures. I agree that there nothing to write home about,but scale model figures tend not to match up to gaming figures for quality and character (there often not even to scale with the vehicle they come with)
The model kits tend to be a bit old school, and remind you of the kits you made as a kid,in terms of flash. I've found it's the luck of the draw,the six kits I've made only two were a pain for flash, and one was a breeze.
As for the level of detail,It's a good starting point for adding a little character. As for being robust it's a good quality for a cross over model,and at less than a third the price for a more modern sculpt. (the main reason I use them  lol)
Once I've tweaked them,they never stay in stock long,so when I have a bit of spare time I pick one up.and sculpt a new crew.then wave goodbye.(if you teat treat them like a figure and add a little shading ,then they come to life.)
I hope that helps,Matt?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on June 15, 2015, 10:25:35 PM
I've built one or three old Smer kits in my day. It's unlikely that you would be entering them into an IPMS competition without serious work but they are great gaming models. Simple kits that look the part. Part fit on the ones I've built has been reasonable and little if any filler used. Flash and fit probably varies from kit to kit. Most are from masters/mould dating back to the 1950s/ 60s. If you want new pilots there are enough out there in 1/48 after part world and Copplestone does a range of Great War/ Interwar pilots.

I currently have my eye on their Mig-17 kit. My Egyptians need air support.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Constable Bertrand on June 15, 2015, 10:36:30 PM
The price was the main reason I picked up some as well, and the planes available were more pulpy than a few newer kits.

The lack of aerials and thin bits of plastic is nice for a gaming model. I had a laugh at how thick the sprue was! Between 5-10mm!  o_o The wings and rudder follow with being quite thick, as long as the landing gear is sturdy it should be ok.

So Mark's pro tip: just add a little shading.

How hard can that be? I may even try adding maskingtape seatbelts to the empty seats.

Yeah I am not sure I want a pilot anyway.. it depends how the plane gets used. Parked scenery doesn't need a pilot, but a taxying plane does.. perhaps some kind of push in pilot could work with a nice head. (Artisan or copplestone)

Cheers
Matt.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on June 15, 2015, 11:09:47 PM
 lol yep!
Always shade,otherwise it sticks out like a sore thumb,compared to your worked miniatures (that's just my personal taste)and don't just use a darker shade of the base colour,try completely opposed colours,greens on yellow or red Browns ,blues on greens,and browns and so on (you get the idea  ;D)it'll give a far more pulpy feel.
It works even better with a double shading of a darker version of the shade colour in small areas on the bits around struts and in the corners.
There you go Matt a tip lol
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Constable Bertrand on June 16, 2015, 08:52:13 AM
 lol

Do you have any pictures of your pulpy SMER conversions to post in here Mark?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on June 16, 2015, 11:23:20 AM
 lol
I knew you'd ask that.
No is short of it,As the last pulp project I did was an airship,Since it's you I'll put my money where my mouth is,and do another one,as I've a use for a waterlined sea plane. I did intend on making it out of card but I might as well chop up a kit.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Constable Bertrand on June 16, 2015, 11:56:49 AM
Cracking!  :D

Thanks Mark.

You really should keep pictures of the things you do then sell you know... It could save you the hassle of doing it again.  lol

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: juergen c. olk on August 08, 2015, 01:03:29 AM
I saw this and thought ,Wow!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on August 08, 2015, 06:24:43 AM
Wow as in 'Wow I'll need a much bigger table and I should think about reinforcing the floor if I ever build one for 28mm figures'?  :)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Constable Bertrand on August 08, 2015, 01:33:31 PM
As in wow. That will need more thrust to fly? lol

8) though!

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: YPU on August 21, 2015, 08:48:36 PM
I'll leave this here:

https://www.facebook.com/TheBugatti100pProject/videos/vb.261574317253048/843683509042123/?type=2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/TheBugatti100pProject/videos/vb.261574317253048/843683509042123/?type=2&theater)

EDIT: Hrm, I tried to get he video directly on here, but it didn't work. If your at all interested in the Bugatti 100p do check it out tough!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on August 22, 2015, 04:52:24 PM
I'll leave this here:

https://www.facebook.com/TheBugatti100pProject/videos/vb.261574317253048/843683509042123/?type=2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/TheBugatti100pProject/videos/vb.261574317253048/843683509042123/?type=2&theater)

EDIT: Hrm, I tried to get he video directly on here, but it didn't work. If your at all interested in the Bugatti 100p do check it out tough!

Fantastic project and one that was new to me - I had heard of the airplane, but not of the classic re-build.

Thanks again for the link (actually links).

Tony
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on December 06, 2016, 06:38:55 AM
So I was wondering, does anyone know of any open cockpit biplanes of the era (which are available as 1:48) and which were quite small? See, I've had one or two 1:48 planes and they're BIG! They just don't match my cars or buildings and I'm about to trade my last one off and so will have no planes.

I've been wondering if I could do what I did with cars: use a common, popular model scale (1:48), but look specifically for things where were originally smaller than average (and so look like a smaller scale). Alternately, maybe I could use a 1:72 model of what was comparatively a very LARGE biplane of the era.

There's a couple of key reference points I've noticed that make a biplane look "right"

1) The leading edge of the lower wing should be around waist or chest height
2) Assuming a propeller mounted centrally on the fuselage, the propeller hub will be somewhere between head height, or a head above head height
3) The edge of the cockpit should be at roughly head height, give or take a bit (assuming the usual position just behind the wings).
4) Propellers should be roughly the length a man is tall
5) Overall height is variable, but always less than double a man's height (average seems to be one-and-a-half men tall at the leading edge of the upper wing)

Here's some sample reference images to show what I mean:

(http://i.imgur.com/g9vj1an.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/rNgPptb.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/wMH5i4m.jpg)

So, are there any 1:48th models which actually work like this? Cheap die kits or plastic kits, whatever works.

I also suppose the same rules work with single-wing planes, just ignore the references related to the upper wing.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on December 06, 2016, 04:45:01 PM
I'll be honest I've only a couple of flying boats/sea planes by Smer and a few scratch builds,for gaming . But id be tempted to go with Smer kits they're a lot chunkier than airfix and similar scale modelling companies .But they do sit well with white metal sculpts.In fact if you treat them as white metal rather than plastic kits when it comes to fit and flash then your not going to be disappointed.For me they're just tough kits that weather gaming quite well.
As I mentioned I've only seaplanes' by them(I'm sick of seeing them on the forum so I'm not going to bore you with a comparison shots but they fit fine for me.)
As for price ,on eBay some kits go for as little £3.99 plus p&p.( Camel and Piper spotter plane.)They do have a good selection of single wing planes,and biplanes including a couple of very usable seaplanes' round the size of the fairy swordfish. So I'd say they're worth a pop .
Mark.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on December 06, 2016, 08:52:24 PM
Are you talking about 1:56th?

I know there's virtually no 1:56th models, so I'm trying to see if there's ways to still use oversized 1:72 or undersized 1:48.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: gweirda on December 06, 2016, 09:08:48 PM
The Hawk range of air racer models in 1/48 has one biplane, the Laird Solution:
(http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss191/brawlfactory/pulp/Laird_zpsdeomwvwr.jpg)

The others I have (waiting to be built) are a good size, though not biplanes:
(http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss191/brawlfactory/pulp/Hawk%20kits_zpsrrruxqcq.jpg)

You could do like this toy I found (based on the GeeBee) and stick another wing on them:
(http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss191/brawlfactory/pulp/GeeBee%20toy_zpsywqzvtcu.jpg)


Another option is to modify kits.  I chopped the wings and fuselage of this old Lindberg Jenny kit to bring the size to something manageable:
(http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss191/brawlfactory/pulp/Jenny_zpsuenu6kwl.jpg)

Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on December 06, 2016, 10:03:50 PM
Matt,
I was referring to their 1/48 kits. I've never built any of their kits in any other scale.(some of their 1/48 kits were originally marked as 1/50 so its possible they're nearer the mark.
Their SE 5 is 13.8 cm long,and wing span of 17.5cm.
On their website they list the kits in a useful way for gamers,number of parts,how many decal options are in the kit.plus its actual size.
I'll be the first to admit they're way off the mark with the crew figures both in detail and scale(but then so are the majority of scale model companies including some very big names when it comes to scaling crew figures) also the weapons and mounts on some kits are bloody dire,to say the least.Which is no hardship as I always replace plastic weapons with white metal ones just to keep a smooth visual transition from figures to kit.( or just make the bits I think it needs)
I do a fair few people on here use these kits  I know Von lucky,was busy reworking a Smêr 1/48 tiger moth a while back.So hopefully someone will post a picture or two for you.(like gweirda! Sorry busy trying to type on a phone keyboard didn't notice your post because of the small screen)
Mark.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on December 07, 2016, 12:50:21 AM
Yes, a lot depends on the size and configuration of the original plane being copied. As with cars, there was a great deal of variation in size, so even though everything is in 1:48 scale, there should still be a fair range of actual sizes.

gweirda's pics are great and hopefully someone else has some similar examples to share!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on December 07, 2016, 02:05:11 AM
Thee n'me have played this size/scale/looks right/feels good game before...


I have 'experience' buying vehicles online from Canuckistanis...

Once gotta box fulla "beautiful" but "far too large" "that just didn't work at all"...
Nuttin' "just plain ugly" though, dodged that bullet!!  Whew!!

But this isn't about scale, or nefarious sellers, it's about cars n'trucks [n'aeroplanes].

& yours look lovely, quite the business, well done & most appropriate.


Extrapolating from earlier vehicular threads your 'logic' becomes fathomable.

I'm taking Monogram's 1/77 Ford Trimotor, adding a 1/48 Bristol radial to the nose, dropping t'other 2 nascelles, wallowing out an open cockpit & adding some Nichimo floats for a big corrugated bush bashin' beast...  a project nowhere near fruition, but I do have all needed bits on hand!!

So, going "UP" look for biggish Great War two seaters:  DH 4, Sopwith 1½ Strutter, Bristol Fighter, RE 8, various Breguets , SPADS, Fokkers, & Albitri, all served well into the '20s...

1/72 models of these bigger kites will require 'larger' scale tyres, guns, propellers, &, if radial or rotary, motors, for a proper 'look'.  

Also be sure the human scale-able bits, any 'man-sized' apperatures, cockpits, doors, ladders, hatchs, windows, are sized for 28mm access thus appearing more  right-ish. 

Use some Murch Pulp 28mm Vickers, Lewis or Maxim guns instead and Robert is your Mother's brother!

Some 'tween the Wars aeroplanes are big enough too, think 2-3 seaters, naval types

~ As far that 1/72nd Blackburn Shark goes, I'd buy it.  She was a HUGE kite!!  

(http://www.airmuseum.ca/mag/sharkh3.jpg)

I'd wager she scales very nicely with 28mm.
Of course she'll need a mod or two, since she can't really be a true Shark in our scale.
Leave off the cowling, drop back to a 1/48 2 blade wooden prop, modify the cockpit & glazing & you'll be aces!!

Going "Down" most pylon air racers. GeeBee aside, are smallish, ditto trainers & single seat fighters.  Transcontinntal speed demons tend towards 'robust', as do mail/passenger birds.  

Plan to carry  more'n pilot & a passenger, at most two, or cargo, & airframe size leaps largish.

Valerik

Professor of Preposterous Physics
Adjunct Accredited Aerodynamatician
Dayton Institute of Applied Aeronautical Absurdity

Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on December 07, 2016, 02:56:08 AM
Good points, val.

Incidentally, your point about resizing bits is an important one. At some point I want to copy Tin Shed's card (or plasticard) trimotor, and while I think I'll have some suitable wheels, I'm not sure where to come by good radials and props without paying absurd amounts for those aftermarket bits and bobs. Could break down a bigger kit (say, a four-engine beast in 1/72 - a Halifax or B-17 or summat - which might even yield additional useful bits like an upper wing or detail doodads), but those are usually a few buckaroos too many to just buy as an experiment.

If I had a set of three good, usable engines & props, I might actually try the trimotor project. D'you have any of those 1/72 beasts and if so s'you think the props and engines and such might be reporpoised?   
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on December 07, 2016, 05:31:09 AM
If I had a set of three good, usable engines & props, I might actually try the trimotor project. D'you have any of those 1/72 beasts and if so s'you think the props and engines and such might be reporpoised?   

They'll be too small...  but I'll send 'em to ya...

I've also got some 1/48 Golden Age air racers that are, to my eye, too small...

& a Ryan PT-22 going spare, NO Floats...

I'm not sure where to come by good radials and props without paying absurd amounts for those aftermarket bits and bobs.

I try'n snag oddball resin Big Round Engines for $10-$12 when I can.  When I build my iteration of a trimotor she's gonna have Alfa Romeo motors.  I lucked up, or sombody goofed,
'cause I scored a sack o' THREE, a full set, fer ten bucks, delivered!!!!

Quote
Engines & Things 1/48 Alfa Romeo Macchi flying Boat 3 Engine Set #48031 New

Propellors are tougher to come by, & more expensive, alas.  Some kits offer a choice,  2 or 4 blade wooden, also 2 or 3 blade metal, a nice bonus.

Could break down a bigger kit (say, a four-engine beast in 1/72 - a Halifax or B-17 or summat - which might even yield additional useful bits like an upper wing or detail doodads), but those are usually a few buckaroos too many to just buy as an experiment.
 

e-bay can yield pre-started or bits missing kits cheapish...  Haunt aeromodeler sites for good in depth reviews.  Some engines are mis-shapen lumps of plastic, just blobs, others little jewels, like the resin ones.  "Parts is Parts"

Valerik
Professor of Preposterous Physics
Adjunct Accredited Aerodynamatician
Dayton Institute of Applied Aeronautical Absurdity
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on December 07, 2016, 09:22:39 AM
Fram, it looks like the esteemed and erudite Valerik has set you on a project, which I look forward to seeing. I don't know if this helps but the FineMolds 1/48 Curtiss R3C-0 (from Porco Rosso) is quite a small but rather nice pulp plane. Excuse the unfinished models (1/48 Albatross and Pulp Figures included for comparison) but see below.


(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q645/Mad_Lord_Snapcase/Curtiss_zpsxg4cogwf.jpg) (http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/Mad_Lord_Snapcase/media/Curtiss_zpsxg4cogwf.jpg.html)


(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q645/Mad_Lord_Snapcase/Img_8108_zpsg4m9tdw9.jpg) (http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/Mad_Lord_Snapcase/media/Img_8108_zpsg4m9tdw9.jpg.html)


(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q645/Mad_Lord_Snapcase/Img_8110_zpsteiev758.jpg) (http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/Mad_Lord_Snapcase/media/Img_8110_zpsteiev758.jpg.html)
Title: That Fokker's no Albatross!
Post by: Valerik on December 07, 2016, 11:16:45 AM
Neither is it a Messerschmitt...

Excuse the unfinished models (1/48 Albatross and Pulp Figures included for comparison)

Secret Rocket Base Fuel Fumes have finally inhinged our Good Mad Lord...

Pity. He had held such promise...

Valerik

I prefer the term "Gifted Social Critic"
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: gweirda on December 07, 2016, 12:21:24 PM
Excuse the unfinished models (1/48 Albatross...

Ahem...that's 'Fokker'   ;)


Like the old joke punchline: "...an' some a' dem fokkers was flyin' Albatros."
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on December 07, 2016, 01:27:56 PM
Quote
Secret Rocket Base Fuel Fumes have finally inhinged our Good Mad Lord...

'Tis true, I bow my head in shame.

The Albatross referred to is even more unfinished, it's still in the box!

Fokker it! Excuse me, I am now in the prime of my senility!   ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: ErikB on December 07, 2016, 05:27:25 PM
Some ideas: http://www.wwiaviation.com/drawings/Hansa-Brandenburg_W18-Germany-300px.png

This guy has an external engine and the wings are at waist level.  Good opportunities to customize.  Also, looks really cool as-is.  Heck, I think I'll get one, come to think of it....

Whole site: http://www.wwiaviation.com/seaplanes.html

If you find that you really do want big, then there's this: Blohm und Voss seaplane Bv 138, https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/fc/36/69/fc36693f7f93433042ef2f1df4fdf083.jpg  It looks really funky and exotic.

Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on December 07, 2016, 06:54:23 PM
Good ideas all round boys.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: PortCharmers on December 07, 2016, 08:22:51 PM
Hello there,

...now you got me thinking about pulpy biplanes. Just rolled out the WWI part of the collection and found they are all rather big birds. Except the Fokker Dr.I, which reminds me of the D. VI, a rather obscure biplane which looks a lot like the fuselage of the Dr.I with D. VII wings. Long story short: a Dr. I without the middle wing should not look awfully wrong and still stay small.
The Polikarpov I-153 "Chaika" also springs to mind, which seriously challenges my resolve not to buy any more plastic kits. And while we are at it, her monoplane stablemate I-16 is also available, small and reasonably pulpy. Another recent release of a nice golden-era plane is Revell's Stearman PT-17.

All in 1/48, I'm afraid, but 1/57 seems not to be an "airplane-scale".

By the way, how about paper-kits? They could be easily converted by zoom-copier. And then built using tougher materials. Lots of creative and talented folks out there.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on December 07, 2016, 10:22:34 PM
This thread always make me smile.
Dinosaurs on the table-OK,a Mummy on the table-Ok,But that 1/48 plane doesn't look  realistic.We're a very odd bunch.

Valerik, is pretty spot on,about scaling. For big go smaller,For small go bigger.The trouble is there is no holy grail scale or company .As its always going to be down to personal tastes and budgets.
The main reason you don't get many affordable 1/56 kits is the fact that plane modelling is so well established that the scales are virtually enshrined as givens.
It's not worth covering them in 28mm.
I've personally sculpted a two part resin Sopwith Camel( three if you include the metal prop) in 28mm.Its not on general release as it was treated as an exercise for both myself and Simon as the mould maker(also as a bet with a 3D printing know it all) To be profitable as product it would have to retail between £16-£20. Plus p&p.I know I could pick up three( possibly more on eBay) 1/48 kits including p&p for less.So why would I bother with one resin kit.
It was i have to say one of the prettiest masters I've ever made it reminded me of the old matchbox kits. All the metal work was in grey putty,all the canvas areas in green and all the struts and prop in brown clay,and all the mould spacers were in clear acrylic.
Sorry off point a bit there.
It is possible to buy most of the ww1 float planes in kit form.They tend to be covered by eastern European companies and come in around £35-£46 a plane.

As for paper kits they tend to be a pain in the arse when it comes to storage and durability on the table.
I've just finished making a radial engine.for another pulp master.which is due out in Feb next year.
So for the hell of it I'll do a tutorial on how to scratch build radials and props.( not from card as I've already covered this in a previous tutorial.)
I was planning on building 'Cutter's Goose ' beginning of next year so its not as generous as it sounds as I'll be making some for that anyway.
Or if your interested in a tutorial, come up with the most Useful 'Pulp' plane capable of carrying a whole league and I'll build that instead .(starting in Feb 2017).As I could do to kick start my own pulp project back into life.
Mark.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on December 07, 2016, 11:10:34 PM
I think my current plan is to scratch build a trimotor of some sort of of card and plasticard (or maybe just plasticard) if I can source the radial engines and props cheaply enough (landing gear would be a bonus, but I have some spare solid wheels from old Lledo cars coming, which will work in a pinch). Had a look down at the model shop today, and Val's quite right that 1:72 engines will all be too small, no matter which plane you get, so 1:48 engines and props would be best. Everything else I can probably do up myself, with the wings being the most difficult, but probably still doable.

After that I'll worry about a biplane or two. Might wind up scratchbuilding that as well. Or just cut down a 1:48 th model. One of the local shops has the same old Lindberg Curtiss Jenny that Bob Murch built and his photos show it works well, though I might shorten the wings and fuselage a tad. So that's an option.

I'm also sorely tempted by a Lindberg 1/64 He 111 - cheap and could be very easily converted to stand in for one of the pulpiest planes to ever fly, the French Amiot 370. Would make a grand bit of pulp league transport or something flown by a daring ace adventurer.

Believe me, I had hoped that I could just use 1:48 planes as-is, but they just look like monsters compared to everything else I have. It's my old railroad modeller instincts kicking in I suppose... they can only tolerate so much scale inconsistency.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on December 08, 2016, 01:18:44 AM
I suppose... they can only tolerate so much scale inconsistency.

What is this he speaks of?

(http://www.goldenwingsmuseum.com/collection/AC-Images/Loening%20K-84-a.gif)

Coupla links, heap cheap-shipped free

Great Pulp Amphibian, Mark I Eyeball scale approved...

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSqk_uH8WxpfetTJZo5S9ZiQdvk9GBlQ1BWR6jCnNkZ7fC4SFU31Q)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevron-1936-Keystone-Loening-Brushed-Metal-Bank-New/311430226123?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38530%26meid%3D0e0a797b43fa4b7aa9c5d2df0c7c0694%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D311746834092&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevron-1936-Keystone-Loening-Brushed-Metal-Bank-New/311430226123?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38530%26meid%3D0e0a797b43fa4b7aa9c5d2df0c7c0694%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D311746834092&rt=nc)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevron-1936-Keystone-Loening-Brushed-Metal-Bank-Airplanes-Jet-Hobby-Pre-Built-/311746834092?hash=item48958f2eac:g:1gYAAOSwj85YNYX8 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevron-1936-Keystone-Loening-Brushed-Metal-Bank-Airplanes-Jet-Hobby-Pre-Built-/311746834092?hash=item48958f2eac:g:1gYAAOSwj85YNYX8)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevron-1936-Keystone-Loening-Brushed-Metal-Bank-New/311430226123?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38530%26meid%3D0e0a797b43fa4b7aa9c5d2df0c7c0694%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D311746834092&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevron-1936-Keystone-Loening-Brushed-Metal-Bank-New/311430226123?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38530%26meid%3D0e0a797b43fa4b7aa9c5d2df0c7c0694%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D311746834092&rt=nc)

Not to worry, gots mine already!!

Valerik
Professor of Preposterous Physics
Adjunct Accredited Aerodynamatician
Dayton Institute of Applied Aeronautical Absurdity
Air Travel Agent for All The Cool Kids
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on December 08, 2016, 02:36:56 AM
Valerik, thanks for the alert on that seaplane, which induced me to finally get an eBay account! Ordered one pronto. Wonder why those are so cheap. Perhaps they are made from spent uranium. I did pay $12 for a metal bank Texaco Grumman Goose at a junk store, but later paid $35 for a different metal bank late 1930's plane at a different junk store.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on December 08, 2016, 02:43:28 AM
What I'm wondering is why on earth we seem to have no good junk stores/swap meets/flea markets here in Toronto for me to go troll around in. It's certainly not for lack of looking on my part.

There's garage sales (well, not at this time of year), but you could go to a hundred of those before you tripped over a usable toy... not really the most effective use of limited time.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: gweirda on December 08, 2016, 03:36:21 AM
One of the local shops has the same old Lindberg Curtiss Jenny that Bob Murch built and his photos show it works well, though I might shorten the wings and fuselage a tad. So that's an option.

You mean, like I did...?   ;)
(http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss191/brawlfactory/pulp/Jenny_zpsuenu6kwl.jpg)


It's my old railroad modeller instincts kicking in I suppose... they can only tolerate so much scale inconsistency.

I hear ya.  More than scale inconsistency for me, it's tablespace: aircraft are, for the most part, bigger than they need to be (in game terms), so presenting something that looks right and 'does the job' while still not getting in the way of the action of the game is important.  Heck, the plane in 'Casablanca' was -while critical- just background fluff.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on December 08, 2016, 06:21:38 AM
Exactly. Too big and they're the whole table. Like most wargamers, my buildings have undersized footprints too, for the same reason. So buildings which are smaller in scale than the minis combined with planes much larger in scale than the minis only makes the effect worse. A single-seater plane which covers almost as much ground area as four cottages or a small factory is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: gweirda on December 08, 2016, 06:52:47 AM
A single-seater plane which covers almost as much ground area as four cottages or a small factory is ridiculous.

Ridiculous, yes - but so much better looking than those cottages!  ; )
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: pistolpete on December 08, 2016, 03:23:23 PM
i just picked up a 1:48 Revell Stearman PT-17 because it looked pulpy to me.  i plan on working on it over the holiday break and hopefully will post some pics.

i have the williams brothers lockheed electra model which is 1:53 and fits well size-wise.  word of warning - it's a terrible kit to put together and takes a lot of fudging/finesse/effort.

as far as "scale consistency" i generally just eyeball it; i mean this is for gaming right?   look at just the figures themselves - lots of manufactures say "28mm" but some are as large as 32, some as small as 25.  we all pretty much wave that away with "people are different heights" but it's still not purely "scale consistent".

Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on December 08, 2016, 10:37:42 PM
I bit the bullet and grabbed the He 111 - at $10 I couldn't resist. I might not use it right away, but I can always dry fit it to see how it looks. It's not what I need right away, but what a sweet league ride it will be when posing as the Amiot 370.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on December 09, 2016, 01:42:15 AM
Right you lot are just showing off.
I followed Valerik's links as I've a soft spot for seaplanes.To get the same model to the UK they wanted $149 for shipping.Similar ones on EBay this side of the pond were $160 reduced from $ 220. Plus $138 for shipping.
( I was actually going to comment yesterday but though if I cant quite believe the price to get diecast planes from America then who else would?)
 
Being of the impoverished nature of have three of the kid at university.It's going to be the DIY route from here on in. ( and possibly even the cereal packet route depending how many come how for Christmas and who the bring in tow )
So Matt,Valerik  and the like if you've got show off like this😉
Then please endulge us poor folk this side of the pond ,with a few pictures more pictures of the planes you've made 'Pulp'.So we may dream of something other than Kellogg's .
All the best.
Mark.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on December 09, 2016, 04:57:41 AM
What on god's green earth?!

If you UK folk want, you can have the plane sent to me and I can forward it on if you pay the postage. I just mailed a plane to vodkafan and it only ran me $15 in Canadian funnymoney. Those coin banks would cost more, but not $150! That's insane and absurd!

Not ideal, as you'd still be paying for postage twice, but uh cheaper than that craziness.

You'd probably actually be best off just contacting the seller directly and asking them if they can ship for a better price. Some of them will be stupid about it, but you only need one who isn't.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: gweirda on December 09, 2016, 11:38:33 AM
By the way, how about paper-kits? They could be easily converted by zoom-copier. And then built using tougher materials. Lots of creative and talented folks out there.

A couple examples of floats/amphibs:
https://www.ecardmodels.com/index.php/1-48-supermarine-sea-otter-civil-vh-ajn-paper-model.html
https://www.ecardmodels.com/index.php/1-48-curtiss-mf-australia-paper-model.html
https://www.ecardmodels.com/index.php/1-48-junkers-w-34-vh-unm-paper-model.html

airliners:
https://www.ecardmodels.com/index.php/aircraft/1-48-fokker-f-111-klm-h-nabr-paper-model.html
https://www.ecardmodels.com/index.php/1-48-d-h-89-dragon-rapide-g-akny.html
https://www.ecardmodels.com/index.php/1-48-oplinter-air-taxi-ats-oo-ats-paper-model.html


There are other sites like  http://papermau.blogspot.com.br/search/label/aircraft  or  http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/

Resizing cardstock would, I think, be easier than whacking plastic (or worse: resin).
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: ErikB on December 09, 2016, 06:03:09 PM
Some of those "small" planes are actually that big.  Lots of helicopters are way larger than tanks.  I was surprised when I put them side-by-side in the same scale.  Doesn't help for that pulp-effect, though.

Has anyone looked at the Grumman Goose and Grumman Albatross?  The latter is pretty big (I've been in one) but they're cool looking amphibs.

Speaking of these planes, perhaps looking for planes with a side-by-side layout (pilot and co-pilot) in a smaller scale would make sense.  They'd have smaller wingspans yet still have wide fuselages that would look like they could fit a pulpy 28mm mini.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on December 09, 2016, 06:44:01 PM
The Walrus is also a good choice for a Pulp seaplane,and a lot easier to get cheaply in 1/48.
As I mentioned I'm intent on scratch building a Goose in the new year.As my son has discovered Tales of the Golden Monkey,So ive been informed as i did his Tin tin figures ,I've now got to do the same with Jake Cutter,and friends. Corky must have a rifle!
So the Goose is a must ,and its not as if it's going to be a hardship because its one I've always had a soft spot for Cutters Goose.

As Frams briefly mentioned when it comes to paper passenger planes,A while back I had a gentleman's bet with him and came up with a Fokker tri motor made from cereal packet card and eight cocktail sticks.There is a tutorial floating around on the forum on how to make one for virtually nothing( which is what he's referring to when he mentions my tri motor plane,and if I remember rightly I managed to churn it out in around twenty hours)
Mark.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on December 09, 2016, 10:34:34 PM
There's actually a post by you with pics of the plane about a dozen pages back in this very thread. I'd link it, but I'm phoneposting.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: gweirda on December 09, 2016, 10:49:51 PM
I'm sure it's already been said:  Aircraft are terrain, not vehicles, aren't they?
They should look cool/right, but they should enable gameplay rather than detract from/inhibit it.

The Tin Shed (I refuse to acknowledge that it's a man - my fragile ego can only take so much comparison...) makes stuff that answers this question properly: The terrain should enhance the game.  Don't get hung up on scale, but do get hung up on how the piece will affect/interact with the game.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on December 19, 2016, 08:28:54 AM
Made an interesting discovery today: The Douglas A-20 Havoc was of a very oddball size, being a very large fighter or very small bomber in real life. Saw one down at the local model shop in 1:48, and it really looks like you could tweak it a little to make a perfect heavy bomber or larger transport because it had a very bomber-like cockpit as well. At least, I'm PRETTY sure it was a Havoc - got to double-check.

A bit more 40's than 30's however. Might do better for WWII with two more engines added as a fake B-17 or such. But I suppose with a good chrome paintjob, windows cut in, and some convincing livery it might pass for a late 30's beast, something contemporary to a DC-3.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on December 19, 2016, 09:22:19 AM
Also, does anyone own a Fiat CR 42 or Gloster Gladiator in 1:72nd scale that they could take a picture of next to a mini?

A long shot, I guess, but it seems like those were really large biplanes and if any 1:72 planes might work as a fake small 1:56 Biplane (with an enlarged cockpit) it'd be those, especially the Fiat - it seems massive (by biplane standards) next to people in photos.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on December 20, 2016, 02:41:47 AM
My mistake on the Havoc - it wasn't a Havoc after all, it was a B-26 Liberator.

Still, either model in 1:48 might be easily modified as an imagined competitor to the DC-3. The biggest trouble is probably having to lower the shoulder-mounted wings (and probably raise the engines as well).
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: PortCharmers on December 20, 2016, 10:34:35 PM
Well, the B-26 was named Marauder. The Liberator was the B-24 and not an airplane at all, but the box that the B-17 Flying Fortress was delivered in. These two and the A-20 Havoc are all available in 1/48, or at least have been sometime in the past. I remeber the B-24 to be an enormous brute of 64cm wingspan, so I guess you refer to the Marauder.

Your idea of moving the shoulder-mounted wing downwards, modifying the engine nacelles accordingly to put her in a more early-thirties trim reminded me of another plane that, as far as I remember, has not yet been mentioned: (drum roll): the Lockheed Ventura. A smallish bomber based on the civilian Electra, in which Amelia Earhart vanished. Is that pulpy enough?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on December 21, 2016, 01:23:03 AM
Sorry, screwed up yet again. It was indeed the Marauder.

As for the Lockheed Ventura, it's also a candidate of similar note (very heavy fighter/light-medium bomber), and yes, similar to an Electra. Though there's a 1:53 Electra kit out there (of dubious quality, but cheap). So that's one of the few planes which is covered.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Freelancer on December 22, 2016, 07:45:19 AM
Just added an Autogyro to my pulp plane collection.(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a313/Adamgehling/image_zpsfjiulleu.jpeg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/Adamgehling/media/image_zpsfjiulleu.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on December 22, 2016, 08:26:45 AM
Sweet as! Don't get much more pulp than that!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: YPU on December 22, 2016, 04:01:02 PM
Sweet as! Don't get much more pulp than that!

My thoughts exactly!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: ErikB on December 22, 2016, 05:08:59 PM
That autogiro is perfect!  From that photo, the size looks good, too.  Nice find!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: mysteriousbill on December 22, 2016, 05:39:49 PM
Nice
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on December 22, 2016, 09:40:31 PM
I just saw this build over on ARC.

(http://www.arcair.com/Gal15/14101-14200/gal14160-Duck-Rey/01.jpg)

The model is a 1/50th scale Grumman Duck from classic airframes.

Here is the link;
http://www.arcair.com/Gal15/14101-14200/gal14160-Duck-Rey/00.shtm

Check out ARC for Dec 22 2016;
http://www.arcair.com/

Tony
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Wolf Girl on December 22, 2016, 10:18:19 PM
Dad just finished a model of a "Stearman". I think it sizes really good next to our minis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing-Stearman_Model_75


Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on December 22, 2016, 11:57:18 PM
I just got my 1/64th He 111 kit in the mail (old Lindberg kit, mentioned earlier in the thread). I dry fitted a couple parts just to get a sense of the size and scale, and it fits minis PERFECTLY.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Valerik on December 23, 2016, 03:56:03 AM
I just got my 1/64th He 111 kit in the mail (old Lindberg kit, mentioned earlier in the thread). I dry fitted a couple parts just to get a sense of the size and scale, and it fits minis PERFECTLY.

See page 3 of this very thread, or all of this one:
[url]http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=17011.0[/url

Wrongish scale, however... tis awfully Pulpish...

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/SEkAAOSwA3dYUtul/s-l1600.jpg)

die cast, not plastic, but...

Heap Cheap too!!

Just sharin'...

Valerik
Professor of Preposterous Physics
Adjunct Accredited Aerodynamatician
Dayton Institute of Applied Aeronautical Absurdity
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on December 23, 2016, 04:32:36 AM
Looks like just the right scale, if you ask me!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on December 23, 2016, 12:23:31 PM
Wrongish scale, however... tis awfully Pulpish...

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/SEkAAOSwA3dYUtul/s-l1600.jpg)

die cast, not plastic, but...

Heap Cheap too!!

Just sharin'...

Valerik
Professor of Preposterous Physics
Adjunct Accredited Aerodynamatician
Dayton Institute of Applied Aeronautical Absurdity


I got that long ago...  :D
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IEn2IlqGOG0/S5KIjG7eGDI/AAAAAAAAC0M/m-dxPXFOtvs/s1600/Miniaturenfotos,+Originale+155.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IEn2IlqGOG0/S5KIi0LIGCI/AAAAAAAAC0E/7lgpNhfXHqI/s1600/Miniaturenfotos,+Originale+156.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IEn2IlqGOG0/S5KIHFhIS7I/AAAAAAAACzs/w-OdbQaf8ZQ/s1600/Miniaturenfotos,+Originale+160.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IEn2IlqGOG0/S5KIHXsC4dI/AAAAAAAACz0/lSYxZfK0OLI/s1600/Miniaturenfotos,+Originale+158.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IEn2IlqGOG0/S5KI1XyEDgI/AAAAAAAAC00/1wb2Gdqiysk/s1600/Miniaturenfotos,+Originale+146.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Matt on December 27, 2016, 10:34:46 PM
I think this has made the list already, but another showing.

1:48 Supermarine Walrus, from Smer.  I screwed up the cockpit when I oversprayed the model with Krylon clear overcoat. 

Picked up some after-market decals from Model Allianace.  The mode represents a Royal Navy aircraft flying on the China Station in the 1930's.

(http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af136/CadianEversor/Pulp%20Alley/IMG_0912_zpsnx2fukzi.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: ErikB on December 27, 2016, 11:38:40 PM
Sometimes you can de-frost a canopy with gloss varnish, brushed on.  Might work for you.  Nice job on the plane, though!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on December 28, 2016, 09:13:13 PM
Nothing wrong with another outing for the Walrus kit.(as its been noted I'm a bit of a fan personally I think its one of the most useful 'pulp' planes)

I do like the choice of colour scheme ,and the fact you've made it gear down.
As for the window glass I forgot to mask mine and ended up with the same effect.At least you weren't as daft as me and made a pilot drinking tea before you frosted the windows!
I understand that it is possible to reduce the effects in the manner mentioned.Never tried it myself but I've noticed that a second coat of matt varnish whilst wet does reduce the frosting so It may have work.Im  not doubting anyone's word only noting that through my own observations it seem more plausible that it first reads.
Admittedly I've not had the time to test it( there's no way id try it on a finished model without testing.)
Mark.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Ballardian on December 29, 2016, 12:40:01 PM
Matt - the Walrus looks great, even with the frosty screens - what did you use for the tensioning wires?
tin shed gamer - let me know if it works, I also had a 'hard of thinking' moment with some truck windscreens.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Matt on December 29, 2016, 04:33:37 PM
Thanks for all the positive comments!

I modeled this with wheels up or down options.  Used magnets inside the airframe, and then on the landing struts.  I had to modify the struts to sit on the airframe, and they are not parallel, but this isn't too noticeable.

The aircrew inside are painted up, but not as interesting as yours, TSG!.  I have done some initial tests with brush on gloss coat; so far inconclusive.  I am going to try a bit more and see how it works out. 

I am still working on decent flight stands, and a "seascape" base that it can sit in for water landings. 

The Walrus in flight!

(http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af136/CadianEversor/Pulp%20Alley/IMG_0914_zpskw4ixdf3.jpg)

I have several kits to follow this, including a Macchi Castoldi M.C. 72 (also from Smer).  However, I think the next project is going to be the Curtiss P6E Hawk from Lindbergh, which I got for Christmas.

(http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af136/CadianEversor/Pulp%20Alley/IMG_0915_zpswadnakpt.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: pistolpete on December 29, 2016, 05:11:13 PM
Ooooohhhh that hawk looks mighty fine. I'm going to hunt for the Macchi Castoldi M.C. 72 first though.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: ErikB on December 29, 2016, 05:25:41 PM
Not matte varnish but gloss to fix that frost.  You can also use white toothpaste and a toothbrush to polish off the frost.  That might be hard to control, though
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: PortCharmers on December 29, 2016, 10:58:34 PM
Hello Matt

Some thoughts about the frosty canopy, admittedlyof a  more theoretical nature, since I have never rescued a frosty canopy.
 
I never heard of Krylon clear overcoat and don't know why it effed up the canopy.

If it is matte, it would contain talcum powder, which I don't think you'll get rid of by overspraying with gloss varnish.
If it crincled up the surface because it contains some vicious solvent such as acetone, the varnish method could work.

Anyway, I recently read a magazine article by some scale-fundamentalist who decided that Hasegawa's B-26 was not good enough and started sanding away on clear and opaque parts alike. Apparently he polished the clear parts with 2000 grain sandpaper (would that be dust-paper?) and some sort of polishing paste. It looked smooth as a baby's bottom on the pictures.

Toothpaste could work fine as a polishing paste. With fine polishing work, I've made good experiences with half a Q-tip in a Dremel.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on December 30, 2016, 03:05:39 PM
I've put my money where my mouth is.
So I've tried an experiment with clearing the canopy .Over in the workbench.(sorry the forum doesn't like my tech and is refusing to allow me to post a link)
Mark.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: ErikB on December 30, 2016, 05:10:11 PM
Q-tip and toothpaste in a Dremel.  Great idea!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Matt on January 01, 2017, 04:55:16 PM
Matt - - what did you use for the tensioning wires?


Ballardian, overlooked your question on tension wires.

I used the thinnest brass rod I could find at the local hobby store.  It looked like wire, but was quite stiff.  I pre-drilled holes with a pin-vice in the locations where the wire would be anchored, and added the rod after assembly.  The engine wires were pretty straight forward, and I added them before the wings went on.  

The wing wires were a bit tricky.  I have tweezers that maintain their grip (i.e. You press on them to release what is being held.) that were very useful.  Getting the right length was also tricky, and I had a bit a wastage.  The pre drilled holes allowed me to seat the wires, and then drop on a bit of superglue gel to hold it in place.  A couple of the anchor points are not drilled, and are simply superglued, followed with a dollop of PVA/Elmers glue to hold it in place.

Here is a picture of the equipment, with a 25mm figure for scale.  The rod I used is the short material in the center.  I found a packet of rod, on the left, at a hobby store.  I think it was for making jewelry.  

(http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af136/CadianEversor/Pulp%20Alley/IMG_4568_zpsbtane7qs.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Ballardian on January 01, 2017, 05:27:16 PM
Many thanks Matt, have tried various things in the past (guitar strings, stretched sprue etc.) but I like your approach (so will have to pinch it!).
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on January 02, 2017, 11:50:51 AM
Matt,
I used more or less the same method.
Florist's wire rather than a brass rod.As I've nearly 2 kilos of it(it seemed like a good idea at the time)
The only difference would be the number of profanities as I don't own magic tweezer's.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on January 02, 2017, 07:59:32 PM
(it seemed like a good idea at the time)

lol
Title: The Avia BH-11
Post by: colgar6 on January 25, 2017, 08:11:04 PM
My first Pulp aircraft, the Avia BH-11, is described more fully here.  Hope this is useful/inspirational/amusing/whatever: http://colgar6.blogspot.com/2017/01/a-28mm-pulp-aircraft-bh-11.html (http://colgar6.blogspot.com/2017/01/a-28mm-pulp-aircraft-bh-11.html)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PP3T-K2naho/WIj2oHL2XTI/AAAAAAAAOSU/MOrHNDtj7CEb5LnO0IUWA_kDjV6lDDY1QCLcB/s1600/IMG_6566.JPG)

    Hugh
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Matt on January 26, 2017, 02:02:54 AM
Sweet model!  I almost bought that kit when I was in Eastern Europe, and now that I see yours I'm kicking myself that I didn't buy it.

Nice job, thanks for sharing.

Matt
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Ballardian on January 26, 2017, 05:49:03 PM
Cool model & nice paintjob.
Title: The Beech Model 18
Post by: colgar6 on January 28, 2017, 11:35:38 AM
I needed an airliner for the "Last Flight" scenario from Pulp Alley's Perilous Island campaign.  Here's what I came up with: http://colgar6.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/28mm-pulp-aircraft-beech-model-18.html

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bc3qeDSNXo4/WIxuj7tGAbI/AAAAAAAAOSw/CSgqQJREWcUsUlPjSUQmYmM3vffBKX_8QCLcB/s400/IMG_6595.JPG)

What do you think?
    Hugh
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Matt on January 28, 2017, 01:00:20 PM
Great job, Colgar!  I have thought about buying that kit too.  Great to see it in the flesh.  Nice work on the color scheme.

Your blog mentions spinner disks, but few other details.  Was this something you bought?

Matt
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on January 28, 2017, 06:26:44 PM
That looks great!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: colgar6 on January 28, 2017, 07:10:17 PM

You blog mentions spinner disks, but few other details.  Was this something you bought?

Matt

Nope, just some clear plastic disks, cut from some food packaging and painted.  The secret seems to be to use sandpaper to partially mark them in a rotary fashion before the paint is applied.

    Hugh
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: pistolpete on January 28, 2017, 08:22:19 PM
Looks great,  have to add that to my wish list.  Really love the spinners.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: shadowbeast on February 10, 2017, 02:53:56 AM
I have a few ideas to contribute:
http://thoughtengine.deviantart.com/art/Bristol-Tourer-662209623
This was the closest I could find (not even the same manufacturer, but the same idea):
http://rodenkits.com/catalogue/RODEN-435-de-Havilland-Dh9-Commercial
The Roden DH4 and DH9 kits are on special currently from BNA Model World, but the website is a mess right now.
Avro Anson, anyone?
http://thoughtengine.deviantart.com/art/Avro-Anson-662206424
Title: Re: The Beech Model 18
Post by: Wolf Girl on February 10, 2017, 04:10:15 AM
I needed an airliner for the "Last Flight" scenario from Pulp Alley's Perilous Island campaign.  Here's what I came up with: http://colgar6.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/28mm-pulp-aircraft-beech-model-18.html

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bc3qeDSNXo4/WIxuj7tGAbI/AAAAAAAAOSw/CSgqQJREWcUsUlPjSUQmYmM3vffBKX_8QCLcB/s400/IMG_6595.JPG)


Excellent!  :-* :-*
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: horridperson on February 10, 2017, 07:17:10 AM
That liner with the props spooled up looks fantastic!  It's a very classy plane so I want to see it reduce a burly mechanic to a red Pollock painting :) .
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Traveler Man on February 14, 2017, 09:48:18 PM
Nicely done! The spinning propeller discs are great!  :-*
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 09, 2017, 02:14:37 AM
Here goes, I'm going to try to post my first ever photos on LAF. These first photos are of a pair of wooden airplanes that I picked up for $2 US each. They seem to be Christmas tree ornaments or were otherwise intended to be suspended by wires through the little brass eyes. They look to be the right size, and can be used as is, though I might eventually change the paint jobs a bit. Oh, and that feldgrau colored thing in the background with an iron cross painted on it is a Denny's rocket cup, which cost about $1 US.

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action-gallery;sa=view;id=27659

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action-gallery;sa=view;id=27660

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action-gallery;sa=view;id=27661

Edit: Went back and tried to use the img in brackets, but that didn't work with photos in the LAF gallery.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: pistolpete on March 09, 2017, 04:03:47 PM
@warrenbruhn - yes sometimes i have issues posting photos too, a lot of trial and error with the preview.  the rocket cup is a great find.  those planes are fine as is IMHO.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 10, 2017, 01:57:18 AM
Having been defeated by the photo posting gods, I will nevertheless post links to my new photos in the LAF Gallery of Pulp airplane models. Next up, two photos of my recently acquired tomato red Texaco Grumman Goose. This is an almost all metal coin bank model (see coin slot in the top of the fuselage), so it's heavier than it looks. It needs to be cleaned up a bit, and I should fill in that coin slot, but it could be used as is. I bought it for $12.50 at Junk Junkies in my little town.

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=27658

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=27657
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 10, 2017, 02:06:56 AM
Here's two more links to photos in the LAF Gallery, this time of my recently acquired 1936 Chevron Keystone Loening floatplane. It is another almost all metal coin bank, so has some heft to it. The wings are very shiny, and the fuselage is a bit boring, but it can be used as it. Eventually I might add some color, perhaps on the fuselage, but I intend to make a Pulp pilot character to fly this one that I will call "The Grey Ghost," so not too much color. It cost me $15.95, including shipping. It has a flight stand, but that doesn't work very well.

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=27663

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=27662
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 10, 2017, 02:18:53 AM
Another pair of links to photos in the LAF gallery, these of my recently acquired 1936 Spartan 7W Executive monoplane. This is another almost all metal coin bank, so is quite heavy for its size. It has retractable landing gear, a door that opens (onto a coin slot), and a flight stand that works a bit better than the one for the 1936 Keystone Loening floatplane. This one is painted up for Orchard Supply Hardware, a business in the SF Bay area. I'll certainly be painting or placing decals over the OSH decals at some point, but will likely use it as is for a scenario or two before doing that. This one cost me $35 at a different local junk store in my little town.

The 1936 Spartan 7W Executive was an interesting airplane, filling the role of the modern Lear jet as a fast comfortable plane for business executives. One was sent to China and was captured by the Japanese. A few were sent to Republican Spain and one was captured by the Nationalists. Owners included Howard Hughes, J. Paul Getty, and King Ghazni of Iraq.

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=27695

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=27696
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 10, 2017, 02:27:59 AM
Now this photo link in the LAF Gallery is just plain silly! This is not actually an airplane, but is a rocket ship being built in the African jungle out of wood! Are the natives building this from their own ideas? Or do they have help from an evil genius? How is that for a Pulp scenario?

Actually, this is a wooden birdhouse from Michael's craft store. I think I paid $9.99 US for it. I don't expect that I will stick with the wooden rocket story, and I'll have to do a lot of work on this thing and paint it. But I thought it would be fun to set up this silly photo of a rocket being built in an African village.

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=27656
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: horridperson on March 10, 2017, 07:10:56 AM
That seaplane is nice!  Once you browse your image on the forum you have to preview it before posting in order to make it appear in your post.  For multiple images you have to preview your post after every add.  In the options display the file name of your image will be displayed if it worked.  Took me some trial and error to get started posting when I arrived too :) .
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Doug ex-em4 on March 10, 2017, 11:25:05 AM
I've taken the liberty of copying and posting one of your images just to make sure there's no issue with them - there isn't. I'll remove this post and my copy of your photo if you prefer.

Doug




(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h69/CannonOlympus01/149_08_03_17_3_29_49_zpsorjwd8kf.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 10, 2017, 04:24:11 PM
Thanks, pistolpete, horridperson, and Doug em4! I'll try your advice this weekend with more photos, and hopefully will get this right!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 11, 2017, 12:16:34 AM
Well, let me try this again with a photo of the 1936 Spartan 7W Executive:

(Yay! My first ever successful post of an image inside the post on LAF!)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 11, 2017, 01:51:12 AM
Have to try one more, the Grumman Goose:
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Doug ex-em4 on March 11, 2017, 04:01:39 PM
Now you've got it - Hurrah....And well worth waiting for; they look splendid.

Doug
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: pistolpete on March 11, 2017, 06:11:39 PM
That spartan is great.  I love the door being able to be opened so much I'd probably just leave it as is.  Create a backstory that ochard supply is some sort of cia/oss front, like air america.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 12, 2017, 12:55:05 AM
That spartan is great.  I love the door being able to be opened so much I'd probably just leave it as is.  Create a backstory that ochard supply is some sort of cia/oss front, like air america.

Behind that door is more grey painted metal and a coin slot. I'll either paint that black or perhaps put something inside that shows a view of the cockpit.

That's an interesting idea about the CIA front. I actually have several boxes of Pegasus plastic banana trees, intended for war in a banana republic named Parador (as in Moon Over Parador. I posed that plane in front of tile roofed buildings because I'm likely to use it in Spain or in South or Central America, but interwar, before there was a CIA. (I have other shadowy Pulp groups in the works.)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 12, 2017, 04:37:43 PM
Note: I tried to use the img in brackets method around the url to post images, but that doesn't seem to work for images in the LAF gallery. That's a bummer, because I really didn't want to have to get a Photo Bucket account. Sigh... So I'm just going to post the links to the urls in the LAF gallery for these two images. I'll have to get myself a Photo Bucket account later.

This is the Queen of my Pulp air fleet, the Junkers F-13 Beni floatplane. Seen here on a muddy river alongside the French gunboat Le Coq Feu (built by my friend Jeff). The floatplane model is from Franklin Mint, which I bought new for maybe $75 US. Love the Junkers F-13 because it first flew in June 1919, was in production for more than a decade, and was in commercial service until the last one was retired in Brazil in 1951. That makes it usefull throughout the interwar period. 322 were produced. I think that includes the ones built in the USA under license. Love that it was flown into the Amazon Basin by Aloha Wanderwell.

It was easy to convert the landing gear to floats or skis, though the tail had to be extended for better control on some floatplanes. A couple of months after it first flew, it set a new altitude record (6750 meters) while carrying 8 people (it was supposed to carry 2 pilots and 4 pasengers). Two years later it set a new record for continuous flight (26 hours, 5 minutes, 32 seconds, distance of 4270 kilometers flown). The passenger cabin was heated. It was the world's first all metal commercial passenger aircraft. It's size makes it perfect for carrying a group of Pulp figures.

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action-gallery;sa=view;id=27700

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action-gallery;sa=view;id=27699
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Doug ex-em4 on March 12, 2017, 05:00:42 PM
Hmmm - that didn't work. Where's the Delete Post button?  :)

Doug
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Doug ex-em4 on March 12, 2017, 05:11:09 PM
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/149_08_03_17_5_09_54.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/149_08_03_17_4_12_37.JPG)

Well, that did work. Images included in a post by linking to the LAF gallery.....

Doug
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 12, 2017, 07:57:52 PM
Why does that work for you and not for me, Doug? I'll try again:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action-gallery;sa=view;id=27700)

Edit: Still not working for me. I must be cursed...

(and I can't find a delete button either)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Doug ex-em4 on March 12, 2017, 08:26:16 PM
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/149_08_03_17_3_33_46.JPG)

Warren

Select which image you want on the LAF gallery.
Right click on the image
Select View Image
Copy the URL
Go back to your post and click on "Insert Image"
Paste the URL between img and /img
Job done.... :D

Doug
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 12, 2017, 09:54:21 PM
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/149_11_03_17_9_13_55.JPG)

Incredible! It finally worked! I was using the insert image tab 2nd from right on 2nd row, but was using the wrong url. I was wrongly using the url that shows up at the top when I selected images from the gallery. On my machine with a right click on the image, I don't get a "view image" option, but do get a "copy image address" option. That worked. A huge thanks to Doug, who helped me work through this both here and in personal messages.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Doug ex-em4 on March 12, 2017, 11:39:59 PM
We got there...! And well worth the effort, I'd say - great photos...

Doug
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on March 13, 2017, 08:48:06 AM
Nice! Where's the Junkers from? Colombia used them in it's war against Peru in 1932 and I've long wanted one.*

That would be yet another project.. ::)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Wolf Girl on March 13, 2017, 05:23:34 PM
Awesome!!  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: pistolpete on March 13, 2017, 07:00:36 PM
Your planes are great.  And you're not alone on difficulties with posting images; i can't do it from google image "album"  without some trial and error, and never from my phone, which is how i take the majority of my pictures.   I alway use the preview button.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: ivor13 on March 13, 2017, 09:47:04 PM
 :o Wow! Fantastic stuff!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on March 13, 2017, 09:56:34 PM
Carlos,
Franklin Mint diecast 1/48.
Schreiber-Bogen card model 1/50.
Revell plastic kit 1/72.

It's a plane I was contemplating making my self.

Mark.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on March 14, 2017, 12:38:03 AM
Carlos,
Franklin Mint diecast 1/48.
Schreiber-Bogen card model 1/50.
Revell plastic kit 1/72.

It's a plane I was contemplating making my self.

Mark.

Cheers! I've seen the Revell one but wanted something a little grander than 1/72.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 14, 2017, 01:24:10 AM
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/149_11_03_17_9_10_39.JPG)

Mine is the Franklin Mint 1:48 scale, pre-assembled and pre-painted. Out of production now, I think, but quite a few of these have changed hands on eBay.

Here is a 28 minute film of Aloha Wanderwell's 1930 flight into the River of Death in the Mato Grosso region of Brazil in a Junkers F-13 floatplane. The film of the floatplane take off is from about minute 5 to minute 7. This is a youtube video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuV7Z17NPtM
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on March 14, 2017, 02:41:44 AM
Thats an interesting clip even more tempted to make one now.

Carlos,
Depending on your budget you might want to sit down when you check out the prices on Franklin Mints Junkers 13's.

This really is a simple scratch build as there's no complex curved surfaces , Its virtually a flying box (from a modelling point of view and no complex rigging ).

Or another option my fit the bill ( or more likely a lessor budget killer).

The 1/72. Oxford diecast De Havilland DH89 Dragon Rapide. It comes in at 20cm wing span and 14.5cm long being a biplane its not going to look too small as its literally 1cm shorter than a 28mm version ( plus is pre made and a shed load of liveries' band new £34 free p&p) its a fair substitute it was literally everywhere used in the Spanish civil war as a bomber as well.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on March 14, 2017, 02:51:34 AM
Cool find! That was interesting in spite of the perky narration, mispronunciation and spelling errors.  I liked the snippet of footage with Marshal Rondon, one of the truly heroic figures of Amazonian exploration.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: shadowbeast on March 22, 2017, 10:03:28 AM
I just ordered this:
(http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server2400/89ffd/products/5105/images/19391/320853_a__31760.1361870564.350.350.jpg?c=2)
and 3 SMER aircraft at HobbyLink Japan. Each less than a thousand yen.
They may, of course, not end up as pulpy planes but in post-apocalyptic, as here:
http://s1.zetaboards.com/Post_Apoc_Wargames/topic/8068539/1/
We shall have to see if I like such huge aircraft on the tabletop, or even what figures I end up with. That seems to be our lot as gamers - deal with a very limited selection of papercraft (or 2 lasercut, that I've heard of, but they're WW2 fighters), hunt all over for something in a scale some company experimented with 50 years ago, or accept that it's either too small or too big.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on March 22, 2017, 08:05:07 PM
Thats an interesting clip even more tempted to make one now.

Carlos,
Depending on your budget you might want to sit down when you check out the prices on Franklin Mints Junkers 13's.

This really is a simple scratch build as there's no complex curved surfaces , Its virtually a flying box (from a modelling point of view and no complex rigging ).

Or another option my fit the bill ( or more likely a lessor budget killer).

The 1/72. Oxford diecast De Havilland DH89 Dragon Rapide. It comes in at 20cm wing span and 14.5cm long being a biplane its not going to look too small as its literally 1cm shorter than a 28mm version ( plus is pre made and a shed load of liveries' band new £34 free p&p) its a fair substitute it was literally everywhere used in the Spanish civil war as a bomber as well.

D'you have one of those Dragons? I wonder what a figure would look like next to one.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on March 23, 2017, 07:43:47 AM
Afraid not Matt.
It's the solution I came up with,after reading your musings on wether using larger planes in smaller scales would work for 28mm rather than breaking the bank with 1/48 die casts and kits.
I actually started looking For a Percival Q6. ( its one of the plane restorations In the TV series on PBS.) but that's in the a sell a kidney price range.
They mentioned the Dragon in that programme (had the same engines in exactly the same housings but was 40mph slower and had a shorter range)
Short version didn't need to kit bash into a Piper as its Pulp stock in its own right . So I've ordered one.

The logic is similar to your own.
Size in 1/72 is almost identical to a smér 1/48 walrus(which I've got.so I'm pretty sure of a comfortable fit)
Not suggesting  totally the same height,only in wing span and in length.
Only likely to require airframe furniture re scaling (just an hour or so and a bit of clay.)
At worst a new door,and props rescaling or made into spinners.
But the added bonus is the way the wheels are attached. If it does need to be raised slightly to fit in with 28mm figures then its going to be easy to rescale them or drop them down a little without it looking obvious.
If I've time I'll write a thread when I attack it. If not I'll  just add a picture to the library thread,when I've finished swearing at it.
Mark.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on March 23, 2017, 12:55:53 PM
There's actually an old Dragon Rapide model kit in 1:68 (by FROG - it comes up on ebay occasionally), so I'm interested in seeing how the die cast would look. as there wouldn't be much difference.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on March 23, 2017, 01:02:26 PM
FWIW, here's the model kit list I compiled of any old oddball kits which were a few ponts off 1:64 in size (which I have discovered is my ideal aircraft scale). Most are WWII with a few interwar kits:

1:54
- Grumman Duck (Glencoe)

1:55
- Grumman XP-50 (various mfg, most recently ODK)

1:60
- Beechcraft Super 18 Twin Beech (Comet/Aurora)

1:64
HOBBY-TIME
- Me 109F (very old kit - 50's issue)

LINDBERG
- B-17
- He 111
- Junkers Ju-88
- Me 109F

MONOGRAM
- Me 109F
- Mustang P-51D
- Spitfire
- Warhawk P-40N (older version) / Tiger Shark P-40F (newer)

REVELL
- B-25 Mitchell

SUNIL
- Me 109F

1:65
- Focke-Wulf 190A-5 (Nichimo)

1:66
- Stinson Tri-Motor (ITC)

1:67
- B-26 Invader (Monogram)

1:68
- de Havilland 89 Dragon Rapide (FROG)
- B-25 Mitchell (Monogram)

I own the Lindberg He 111 myself and it is absolutely perfect in terms of scale for me. It will at some point be converted slightly to serve as an advanced prewar civilian transport (such planes did exist, but there is no kit for a civilian version - a beautiful plane!). A "high end" plane for some rich industrialist's new air-line to compare and contrast with my eventual Trimotor for use in backwaters and run-down locales.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on March 23, 2017, 01:30:44 PM
I'd thought of using a frog kit ,but there's only the box! on eBay at the moment.
Just for giggles this 1/48 version is on for £249 plus p&p.

It's quite an interesting list ,some of those are still going to take up quite a chunk of table even in a smaller scale.
I've pretty much finished reworking my card tri motor into a scenery piece for the type of run down middle of nowhere airfield. Just got to work on a few jungle buildings and I'll be set. So I'll be interested to see your take on it .
(I'd ask how your getting on with your tri motor,but you might return the favour and ask if my old entry is still gathering dust.So I won't .)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on March 23, 2017, 11:15:15 PM
Oh I freely confess I have had zero time for the trimotor. There has been very little miniatures time of any sort the past three months (only those two minis I did for the BoB painting club). Hopefully my time should open up a bit more once I get some things done, but I will be starting with some smaller stuff (minis) to ease back in.

I do want to build the trimotor before I make the He 111. The 111 is a kit and so should be easier and quicker, but the Trimotor will have wider usefulness and be more forgiving of error due to it being more worn.

I also think the Trimotor will be a bit more game-friendly (raised wing, vs lower wing)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on March 24, 2017, 12:22:10 AM
I'm in a similar position I've that many sculpts on the go. I cant afford my own work.
So my own toys are almost on hold.
That said I've made some room for a pressure break,either some follies figures or some more WW1 cars not sure which yet.So my airfield project will probably still be on the go in July.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: gweirda on March 24, 2017, 11:16:48 AM
There's actually an old Dragon Rapide model kit in 1:68...

Dunno if it's been mentioned upthread, but there are paper kits available (eg: https://www.ecardmodels.com/index.php/1-48-d-h-89-dragon-rapide-g-akny.html  ) for the clever of hand.  I assume it could be printed to whatever size desired?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on April 05, 2017, 11:04:28 PM
Some nice photos of a Boeing 314-A Flying Clipper model by Authentic Models on this website by Major Payne. This was linked by Major Payne on LAF years ago, but it looks like Major Payne hasn't been active here since 2010. Figured the link also belongs in this thread because of the great airplane model in a Pulp setting:

http://payneslanding.weebly.com/jungle-fever.html
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: pistolpete on May 08, 2017, 12:08:44 AM
My take on the 1:48 pt-17 stearman.  I couldn't decide on a color scheme so it's just whatever i had laying around.   Still need to add numbers and maybe a logo.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NeOpIVjJfws/WQ3O7d0BbCI/AAAAAAAAEwc/JrxJKPxa87M5bVGAuTYrfSfH6nzJ2g_0gCHM/s1280/upload_-1)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NoXC-_t49CM/WQ3O2heqbfI/AAAAAAAAEwc/atHS4X_CKoEfvfuIgeS0zFn2_13P0jYZwCHM/s1280/upload_-1)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Wolf Girl on May 08, 2017, 01:52:45 AM
Awesome!  :-* :-*
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on May 08, 2017, 06:02:24 AM
Looks good!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: ErikB on May 08, 2017, 08:31:42 PM
My take on the 1:48 pt-17 stearman.  I couldn't decide on a color scheme so it's just whatever i had laying around.   Still need to add numbers and maybe a logo.
Great job!  I like the colors, too.

Reminds me of this girl from high school.  Her dad had a Stearman.  I so wanted to go out with this girl AND go flying with her dad.  If I had to choose one it would have been the airplane.  Got neither, though....  lol
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Traveler Man on May 08, 2017, 09:14:05 PM
I like the Stearman, nicely done!  :-*
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Amalric on May 08, 2017, 11:09:04 PM
Fantastic job on the steerman. My uncle flew one dusting crops in the 70's. He pranged the prop and knowing I loved planes, even as a wee boy, he gave it to me. I still have it as yard art in the back yard.  ;D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: pistolpete on May 09, 2017, 03:58:07 PM
Fantastic job on the steerman. My uncle flew one dusting crops in the 70's. He pranged the prop and knowing I loved planes, even as a wee boy, he gave it to me. I still have it as yard art in the back yard.  ;D

one man's junk pile is another man's yard art.   :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on July 11, 2017, 06:37:13 PM
A slightly different source for Pulp planes. Money boxes/coin banks.This particular one is a Gearbox collectables Grumman Goose. As for scale its unmarked I'd place it somewhere round 1/48-1/43.
This cost me £10 on eBay.okay it needs a little tweaking but its cheaper than a 1/48 kit plus its very heavy by comparison

If your in the states I'd recommend the Ertl die casts especially the Wings of Texaco money boxes They've a couple of Grumman  seaplanes in 1/43. Also a Ford trimotor, in 1/72. Although its closer to 1/60 with a foot wingspan.
Infact its a very pulp range. But check eBay for second hand as you can be pick them up for between $15-$20.

(the Smer 1/48 Walrus is just for scale.)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: d phipps on July 11, 2017, 08:59:59 PM
Nice find! THANKS for posting.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: shadowbeast on July 28, 2017, 02:57:59 PM
Dunno if it's been mentioned upthread, but there are paper kits available (eg: https://www.ecardmodels.com/index.php/1-48-d-h-89-dragon-rapide-g-akny.html  ) for the clever of hand.  I assume it could be printed to whatever size desired?
Be sure to only scale downwards, for although that doesn't seem to have bitmapped texturing, it may not be printable as a vectored image; plus you will also run afoul of the square/cube law.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: shadowbeast on July 28, 2017, 02:59:45 PM
one man's junk pile is another man's yard art.   :D
Actually, there is a marked difference between yard art and fly-tipping, as Roadkill shows us often (as often as they show us that people just can't seem to distinguish between the two...)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: shadowbeast on September 17, 2017, 05:23:49 AM
Wreck inspiration.

To boot, this wreck was actually a prop in a two-fisted tale made in 1983 (Sky Pirates).

(https://img00.deviantart.net/c3c5/i/2017/249/0/e/sham_wreck_nose_by_thoughtengine-dbmjyvf.jpg)
(https://img00.deviantart.net/c256/i/2017/249/1/a/sham_wreck_nose_by_thoughtengine-dbmjyr0.jpg)
(https://pre00.deviantart.net/5828/th/pre/i/2017/249/4/d/wing_tree_by_thoughtengine-dbmjzab.jpg)
https://thoughtengine.deviantart.com/gallery/57242938/Air
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: d phipps on September 18, 2017, 02:54:30 PM
I've been working on a couple new planes recently. Here's a WIP photo...

(http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o665/pulpalley/Vehicles/Planes%20and%20Boats/100_8866_zpsjth4krnb.jpg)


More to come......



Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: pistolpete on September 18, 2017, 11:09:44 PM
Dave - looks great so far, almost playable as is.  Is it a lit or another of your 3d printer masterpieces?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on September 19, 2017, 03:13:47 AM
1:56 scale or so? Hard to tell from the angle.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Duke Donald on September 19, 2017, 04:16:39 AM
I like the look of this. I could well buy it if you made available.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: secharles on September 30, 2017, 02:57:03 AM
this thread has wings!

has anyone replaced flat fuselage panels with corrugated (like on the Ford Tri-motor pg #1)?

to me, the material screams "pulp".
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on October 01, 2017, 10:32:39 PM
Yep.
It's not difficult. You can easily cut replacement pannels for flat areas. Personally I'm lazy and prefer short cuts. Thin layer of clay on the wing pannels and corrugated plastic used as a stamp mould.
Saves no end of time.

Mark.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 18, 2018, 05:41:47 PM
Lockheed Vega 5C, circa 1932, diecast coin bank.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/31/149-180318163209.jpeg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 18, 2018, 05:44:29 PM
Lockheed Orion 9, circa 1931, diecast coin bank.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/31/149-180318162936.jpeg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 18, 2018, 05:47:58 PM
Buhl Whirlwind, circa 1929, diecast coin bank.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/31/149-180318163431.jpeg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on March 18, 2018, 06:53:45 PM
How do figures look next to them? Got any comparison shots?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: d phipps on March 18, 2018, 08:41:42 PM
Nice looking plane.  ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 18, 2018, 09:58:37 PM
How do figures look next to them? Got any comparison shots?

No comparison shots because my figures are in storage. These are pretty similar in size to the ones I posted with figures in this thread a little more than a year ago. These diecast coin banks are all over the place in scale, since they seem to have been made to fit a standard sized box. They typically have a wingspan of about 12 inches, plus or minus an inch, and a fuselage length of about 8 inches, plus or minus an inch. So the medium sized planes come out closest in scale with 28mm figures, with some small monoplanes being too big to scale well with 28mm, and something like a Ford Tri-motor being too small to scale well with 28mm.

Among this lot of 3, the two Lockheed planes are from the Spec Cast Liberty Classics line, I believe, from the early 1990's. Spec Cast come in a smaller box than the typical ERTL. The Orion looks the smallest in scale, but not much smaller than the Vega, perhaps the same scale. The Buhl Whirlwind is an ERTL, and is larger in scale. I wouldn't park them next to each other on the same airfield. I sometimes measure these planes and calculate the scale by comparing them to the historical plane's dimensions. Haven't had a chance to do that with this lot yet.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: mysteriousbill on March 19, 2018, 09:13:19 PM
The Vega is about 1:32 scale
The Orion is about 1:46 scale
The Buhl is about 1:43
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 20, 2018, 12:17:06 AM
1929 Curtiss Robin diecast coin bank. Since I don't have any 28mm figures handy, I put a stapler and a pair of glasses in the photo to give an idea of size.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/31/149-200318011051.jpeg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on March 20, 2018, 04:16:24 AM
Ah! But how do we know you don’t have a massive head and glasses sized proportionately? Or really tiny hands and a stapler to match? :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: mysteriousbill on March 25, 2018, 04:47:15 AM
The Robin is about 1:43. Neat note: this is the plane Wrong Way Corrigan used when he "accidentally" ;) ;) ;)flew the Atlantic instead of to the West Coast.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on March 25, 2018, 08:39:55 AM
Found a Buhl Whirlwind for $25 Canadian and free shipping to boot, so for that price I figured I'd take a gamble on one. I think if I re-clad the top and sides of fuselage with thin corrugated sytrene, rework all the windows with proper frames and plastic "Windows" and possibly also add two smaller outboard motors, it'll easily pass for a 1:62-ish Trimotor of some variety (mainly by using smaller windows).

That will hopefully finally give me a transport plane, without having to build one entirely from scratch. 
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 25, 2018, 10:23:09 PM
Fram, why mess up a perfectly good Buhl Whirlwind in order to turn it into something that looks sort of like a Ford Tri-Motor? The Buhl Whirlwind is a fine 1929 airplane for Pulp, which can carry some passengers and/or cargo.

For a Ford Tri-Motor, one can get a 1:72 scale ERTL for between $30 and $45 US. Is it a bit small for use with 28mm? Yes. But I've seen it used that way in a Pulp Casablanca game, and it took up a reasonable amount of the playing area. There's several available on eBay now, including this one for $40 US (but I've already spotted two for less):

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ERTL-Prestige-Series-Phillips-66-Ford-Tri-Motor-Diecast-Airplane-Model/222817647187?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D50998%26meid%3Dcbe6e2bd7a894252b87b24d21917f47b%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D162780385460%26itm%3D222817647187&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982

If you really want one in 1:48 scale, already built, there is this one handcrafted from Philippine mahogany for $127.41 US:

https://www.opentip.com/product.php?products_id=3906807&ats=product_landing

A cheaper and lighter solution would be this 17.5 inch light wood kit for $19.99 US:

http://modelexpo-online.com/DUMAS-Ford-Tri-Motor-17-12-Airplane-Kit_p_1168.html

Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on March 25, 2018, 11:27:27 PM
Oh, the joys of dope and tissue modelling!

Apart from the expensive Hobby Boss offering, can anyone think of a 28mm ish PT-17 Kaydet? I know Revell do a 1/48 kit and that might be my best bet but open to other suggestions. It’s going to be a proxy anyway.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 25, 2018, 11:32:23 PM
Carlos, if you want a PT-17 Kaydet, why not just buy the ERTL diecast Stearman biplane?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 25, 2018, 11:38:55 PM
Bill, the Spec Cast version of the Lockheed Vega seems more like 1:43 scale to me. The dimensions of the Vega and Orion were very close, but the Orion was about 50% taller. These two Spec Cast models don't show that height difference. The Orion seems only slightly smaller in scale than the Vega.

Perhaps ERTL has a bigger diecast version of the Lockheed Vega, but I haven't seen one. There are a lot of diecast Lockheed Air Express models out there, but since only 6 were ever built, I didn't acquire one of those.

Thanks for the reference to "Wrong Way" Corrigan. I looked up the story, and it's another amazing feat of early aviation. Love that he was a mechanic for Lindberg's Spirit of St. Louis, which cost $10,000, and that Corrigan was able to cross the Atlantic in a Curtiss Robin that cost less than $400!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on March 26, 2018, 12:24:06 AM
Fram,

Tri motors ,are piece of cake. If I can knock one up with the help of Mr Kellogg's.Why haven't you a tri motor kit bashed yet. :D

If only I could remember who provided me with the line drawings to build both the Fokker ,and the Ford tri motors in the first place.?   ;)

Joking aside I've seen the die cast version on a club table.its not strictly 20mm more a looser 25mm. As the die cast parts are a little chunkier than a scale model for obvious reasons which aids/acts as, scale compression rather
Than looking totally undersized. Especially if its the only plane on the table.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 26, 2018, 12:57:09 AM
If anyone really wants a big 1:48 scale tri-motor 1930's airplane, but isn't stuck on it being a Ford, then check out the Franklin Mint French version of the Ju-52. There's a couple available on eBay. Not cheap, but spectacular:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Franklin-Mint-Collection-Armour-French-JU-52-Die-Cast-Plane-In-Box/311925048949?hash=item48a02e8675:g:PQ8AAOSwf~ZZa-kJ
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on March 26, 2018, 01:22:33 AM
Haha, it's been years since I made a doped wood-frame model. They were fun when I was a kid though!

As for the conversion, the thing is, I would want to convert the Buhl Whirlwind to add detail anyway - those plain black painted-on "windows" are pretty crap, to be honest.

I may or may not add outboard motors (I do have engines and props!), but a very thin layer of cladding on the fuselage won't ruin the plane and once I shrink the windows a bit, the plane will appear to be a different scale, even though it will be physically the same size.

Fram,

Tri motors ,are piece of cake. If I can knock one up with the help of Mr Kellogg's.Why haven't you a tri motor kit bashed yet. :D

If only I could remember who provided me with the line drawings to build both the Fokker ,and the Ford tri motors in the first place.?   ;)

Don't remind me! My terrible laziness was the death of that project (well, it was "on haitus" but if I can do a much simpler conversion, then that's a way of jumpstarting things by having 2/3rds of the work already done for me!). It's been so many years since I scratchbuilt an aircraft (I actually used to make my own wooden frames!), and every time I thought of getting started... well, you know how so many gaming projects go. 

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Joking aside I've seen the die cast version on a club table.its not strictly 20mm more a looser 25mm. As the die cast parts are a little chunkier than a scale model for obvious reasons which aids/acts as, scale compression rather
Than looking totally undersized. Especially if its the only plane on the table.


A little while back in the thread I mentioned I'd bought a rare-ish He 111 model in the oddball scale of 1:64. When I compared it to the 32mm-ish figures I was using, it turned out that it was an absolutely perfectly-scaled model. Not so huge as to be out of scale with my buildings or cars, but not so small that it didn't look like the figures couldn't fit inside in a proper way (they wouldn't, if you measured genuine sizes, but it's close enough to pass muster at a glance). Of note, the He 111's wingspan in 1:64 is about 13.5", so the (I assume 1:48) doped Trimotor is clearly too big at 17.5".

So, my grail is to try and force things to that 1:64 scale. Unfortunately 1:72 is just too small - at that scale it becomes instantly and obviously clear my minis couldn't possibly fit inside them properly, though as you pointed out, they'd scale very well with true 25mm figures (and Lledo cars as well). On the other hand 1:48 dwarfs everything and takes up far too much room on a table.

I'm actually planning on simply looking at the Buhl when it arrives and basing my work on how it compares with my minis. If the bulk/wingspan is big enough, I'll do the full conversion, if it's too small, I'll just keep it mostly as-is (still need to fix those terrible windows though and maybe twiddle some other details) as a smaller 4-6 person plane.

Oh and no matter what, it's getting repainted, of course.

If anyone really wants a big 1:48 scale tri-motor 1930's airplane, but isn't stuck on it being a Ford, then check out the Franklin Mint French version of the Ju-52. There's a couple available on eBay. Not cheap, but spectacular:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Franklin-Mint-Collection-Armour-French-JU-52-Die-Cast-Plane-In-Box/311925048949?hash=item48a02e8675:g:PQ8AAOSwf~ZZa-kJ

That things a monster - it'd take up an entire table by itself (I've seen the kit - was considering it as an alternative before I did). 1:48 is just too, too big for anything but the smallest aircraft.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Codsticker on March 26, 2018, 03:19:06 AM
This a Gearbox Collectable Grunman Goose diecast piggy bank Murdock found for our Pulp Alley games:
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UgQ3BKD43CY/WrWR6mEMT2I/AAAAAAAAM2M/Soav2G_x1Twza2NmewJR_6DJKuds32SnQCLcBGAs/s1600/P1010017.JPG)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on March 26, 2018, 07:58:15 AM
Carlos, if you want a PT-17 Kaydet, why not just buy the ERTL diecast Stearman biplane?

If it’s the coinbox one, it’s the wrong shape and IIRC that one is rather overscale isn’t it? I’m looking for something that looks like one of either of these:

Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on March 28, 2018, 01:37:31 AM
Fram, since you seem intent on sticking those two extra engines onto an existing model, I'll share with you a couple of tri-motor aircraft from the late 1920's that I ran across while cruising through aviation history on wikipedia:

Kreutzer Air Coach -  15 produced 1928/29  - the K-5 model especially looks similar to a Curtiss Robin or Curtiss Thrush with two extra engines placed in the wing braces. It had a crew of 2 and could carry either freight or 4 passengers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kreutzer_Air_Coach

Bach Air Yacht -  21 produced - first flight 1927. This also looks quite a bit like a Curtiss Robin or Thrush with two engines placed in the wing braces. One thing that's different from the Kreutzer is that the three engines weren't the same size. There was a bigger engine in the nose and two smaller engines in the wing braces. It carried two pilots and 10 passengers. Check it out:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bach_Air_Yacht

Note that Curtiss Robin diecast coin banks of reasonable size and price can be easily found on eBay. Compare the photo of my ERTL Texaco version above and see how it compares to the look of the Kreutzer and Bach tri-motors.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on March 28, 2018, 02:31:06 AM
Neat information on the alternatives.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on April 01, 2018, 08:20:59 PM
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/32/149-010418200743.jpeg)

The famous Spokane Sun-God, Buhl sesqui-plane, that flew from Spokane to New York and back refueling in the air. Just another one of those crazy stunts from the golden age of aviation:

http://www.aerofiles.com/sungod.html

I thought this version of the ERTL diecast model would be black, but actually it's a dark shiny metallic silver. Not sure many planes of the era looked like that. The red one might be closer to the historical look. Hard to say from old black & white photos.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on April 01, 2018, 09:46:55 PM
If anyone here has time to watch about 30 minutes of youtube video of a restored 1930's seaplane flying and landing in water and taking off again, check out this Sikorsky S-39 at the Fantasy of Flight Museum in Lakeland, Florida:

Part 1 (17:35)(includes start up and take off):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqxuC_DjRVI

Part 2 (11:43)(includes water landing and take off):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=176vOCIXSUU

This is the "Spirit of Igor" 40 year 40,000 man hour restoration project, apparently painted in the giraffe-patterned paint scheme of the historic "Spirit of Africa" S-39.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_S-39

Fantasy of Flight Museum:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy_of_Flight
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on April 01, 2018, 10:08:36 PM
Huh, that dark silver one looks dead sexy! I actually have no idea at all which paint scheme the one I ordered will be. Surprises!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: d phipps on April 02, 2018, 12:48:06 AM
Beautiful!  :-*
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on April 02, 2018, 09:59:32 AM
Oh sod it, getting these in the UK is a costly exercise.So I'm going to have to intercept the recycling and build one.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on April 03, 2018, 04:33:18 AM
Oh sod it, getting these in the UK is a costly exercise.So I'm going to have to intercept the recycling and build one.

Which plane do you want to build? It's amazing how many different planes there were in the 20's & 30's. Your trimotor looks great.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on April 04, 2018, 03:13:51 PM
Now you see, there in lies the rub.
I know diddly squat about them! Not my thing at all to point I've taken off in more of them than I've landed in. ;)

All I do know is ,I've done floaty flying things,and wheelie flying things. Balloon flying things,

So skiddy ski flying thing. That's top draw technical data in my book. :D

Joking aside I've no single plane in mind.The thing I tend to call time on is anything post 1936.
Somewhere I've a light reading tome on Bush pilots.That has quiet an interesting section on Canadian,and Alaskan bush pilots and pioneers. But I'm open to suggestions from the collective (so to speak).
The only stipulations being something I can scale compress (if necessary) down to 12-13 inch wingspan.Also on skids/skis .
So as you can see its got all the hallmarks of a cunning plan.with no rudder.

Mark.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on April 04, 2018, 07:38:04 PM
You planning on something to match your train on skis?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on April 04, 2018, 08:04:37 PM
Yep  :D ,
Planning on both heading off down the silk road. ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on April 15, 2018, 10:15:27 PM
Yep  :D ,
Planning on both heading off down the silk road. ;)

Tin Shed Gamer, when you get done with your ski-plane project, may I suggest taking on a project to build one of these Sikorsky S-38 float planes? The one in this 4 minute youtube video is painted as the zebra striped Osa's Ark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WsPqI5QhaM
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on April 16, 2018, 10:39:01 AM
That's an interesting idea.
It would be very close to the table top if you waterline  it. I'm not sure just how big a plane it is.I suspect a little two big. I've already got a water line Walrus seaplane (smer),and an Ertl die cast Goose.Plus the card Tri motor,and I'll have the ski plane(once its finished.).

Though...
It'd make one heck of a colourful table next to the Walrus.If I could compress it down to the same wing span as the Walrus. Or the Single engine '39 might be a better option.

Having had a look at the videos. It's look quite unnerving to be a passenger on. As it doesn't So much land on water, As sink and then remember it can float.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on April 22, 2018, 03:35:22 PM
I picked one of these kits up today on eBay, for £5.99.  Side-tracked I know but... There's a cunning plan,if its too flimsy to be a piece of scenery. Then I've a perfectly good set of nets for building one in something more resilient.

Mark.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on April 22, 2018, 06:50:42 PM
I picked one of these kits up today on eBay, for £5.99.  Side-tracked I know but... There's a cunning plan,if its too flimsy to be a piece of scenery. Then I've a perfectly good set of nets for building one in something more resilient.

Mark.

Schreiber models become amazingly sturdy and tough if built correct. I used to build a dozen planes and even more ships more than 30 years ago and even added the 1/200 Zeppelin for nostalgia 15 years later. I remember a 1/50 scale Junkers Ju 52/3m with detailed interior too.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on April 22, 2018, 06:59:35 PM
I forget the manufacturer at the moment, but I eventually plan to do something similar when it comes time for me to make the inevitable tramp freighter. There's an EXCELLENT paper model with varied play areas (lots of levels and gangways and such for cover and movement) and a realistic design (no goofy proportions and whoever made it knows what a ship looks like). I figured I'd make it in plasticard and cardboard instead of paper.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on April 22, 2018, 09:04:11 PM
I'll take your word for it .But I won't be making one soon as I've just been sent a refund and told its sold out :(. Serves me right for getting side-tracked, The universe seems to make sure every time, I try to make something just for me its got to be out of bloody cereal packet lol :'( lol
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on April 23, 2018, 07:06:49 AM
What in the world...

It baffles me how paper model kits ever run out of stock.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on April 23, 2018, 07:29:45 AM
What in the world...

It baffles me how paper model kits ever run out of stock.

Did you try to order from their site? http://www.schreiber-bogen.com/cat.php?dev=1&ac=3&t=178
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on April 23, 2018, 07:57:25 AM
Check that shop too: https://www.rakuten.de/shops/kamobo/wilhelmshavener-modell-moewe-verlag-41431880/
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on April 23, 2018, 11:37:51 AM
What in the world...

It baffles me how paper model kits ever run out of stock.

They probably source their paper from Wernham Hogg or maybe Dunder Miflin.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on April 24, 2018, 08:23:38 PM
If you have an hour or two to spare this thread would be a great starter for some very unique aircraft.

http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,27999.1410.html

Please ignore the Photobucket odds and ends.

Tony
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Johnnytodd on April 25, 2018, 02:56:21 AM

The only stipulations being something I can scale compress (if necessary) down to 12-13 inch wingspan.Also on skids/skis .
So as you can see its got all the hallmarks of a cunning plan.with no rudder.
Mark.

Mark,  Not sure if you are still pondering a ski-plane.... Is this what you have in mind?  I took a picture of this beauty at the Smithsonian air/space museum with some intention of building a model of it - love the skis!

(https://i.imgur.com/jU17i2e.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on April 25, 2018, 08:35:02 AM
Mark,  Not sure if you are still pondering a ski-plane.... Is this what you have in mind?  I took a picture of this beauty at the Smithsonian air/space museum with some intention of building a model of it - love the skis!

(https://i.imgur.com/jU17i2e.jpg)

Traversing the Antarctic in a single engine aircraft? Mad or stupid or possibly both. There’s a diecast model of the standard version of that Northrop Gamma as well as a rather obscure kit in 1/48
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Andy in Germany on April 25, 2018, 06:24:45 PM
If you have an hour or two to spare this thread would be a great starter for some very unique aircraft.

http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,27999.1410.html

Please ignore the Photobucket odds and ends.

Tony

That's a real time sink, that thread... thanks for sharing it.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on April 26, 2018, 12:45:23 PM
I think 'Carlos M' is right. Confirmed the order then a couple off hours later refunded the money.Hay Ho. ::)
So I'll more than likely order direct(cheers Michi.)

It's an interesting site Tony thought I suspect its easier to navigate as a member.

JT,
I like the look of it (I wonder if its in the Wings of Texaco range,As it appears it was sponsored by them.)
My only reservation is I'm not sure how well it'd translate,as I opted for a shabby feel for Pulp,rather than a Shiny one.

Here's three possible planes.
Fokker Universal - a period transport plane and bush plane.As I've already a tri motor it'd be quite a simple build ,and would fit quite nicely.
Junkers F13 - again very similar construction to a tri motor( in a scratch building context).
Spad S A 4. Not a lot to say other than its a Heath Robinson of a plane,and it'd fit in with another project.

Mark.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Andy in Germany on April 26, 2018, 04:16:41 PM
I looked up the Junkers F13 on Wikipedia, as it seems a good size for a project. They have a set of drawings of the plane:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_F.13#/media/File:Junkers_F-13.svg
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on April 27, 2018, 01:25:35 AM
I looked up the Junkers F13 on Wikipedia, as it seems a good size for a project. They have a set of drawings of the plane:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_F.13#/media/File:Junkers_F-13.svg

Nice link. Also note there is a photo of my Franklin Mint version further back in this thread.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on April 27, 2018, 02:40:59 PM
 ;) it was your Franklin mint version that started me off.

It's available in 1/50 for about €8 .

Whilst looking at card kits, I came across this.
A Focke-Wulf F19a.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Codsticker on April 27, 2018, 04:00:56 PM
That is the funniest looking thing with wings I think I have ever seen. :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on April 27, 2018, 08:12:50 PM
Are you sure ;D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Codsticker on April 28, 2018, 03:13:06 AM
Are you sure ;D
Not any more... lol

To be fair though, those are just a bunch of drawings not a photo of an actual flying airplane equivalent of a duckbill platypus. :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Doug ex-em4 on April 28, 2018, 08:37:33 PM
It would be interesting to have the dates of those fascinating newspaper clippings if possible.

Doug
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on April 28, 2018, 09:17:13 PM
Oh that's right call me out on my guilty secret  lol
They're mainly 1932-36.with the exception of the German flappy winged liner that's 1949.

These old magazines are Pulp gold.

Cod' the first three are all real flying aircraft.(once you start looking you'll get hooked nearly half these strange craft made it to prototypes  including this one all be it a single seater ;))
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Von Stroheim on October 06, 2018, 03:19:30 PM
New from ICM in 1/48 scale

http://www.icm.com.ua/uploads/posts/2018-09/1537879670_ramdisk_crop_183056029_gju8g.jpg
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on November 18, 2018, 05:10:00 PM
Bumping for the benefit of others...
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on November 18, 2018, 05:11:55 PM
 lol just doing the same. You just type faster.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on November 18, 2018, 11:06:03 PM
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/149_08_03_17_3_54_26.JPG)

Just trying to post an old image, just to remind myself how to do that.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on November 18, 2018, 11:11:59 PM
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/149_08_03_17_3_48_52.JPG)

This one and the preceding yellow plane are lightweight wooden models with hooks for hanging them, perhaps on a Christmas tree. Got them for only $2 each.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on November 18, 2018, 11:18:50 PM
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/149_08_03_17_4_09_21.JPG)

I think this is a better photo of the 1936 Keystone Loening floatplane than the one I posted months ago. A total of 3 of my planes are floatplanes, this one, the Texaco Grumman Goose, and the Fokker F-13 Beni. None are waterlined, however. Must admire Tin Shed Gamer's work on his waterlined model.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on November 19, 2018, 09:19:34 AM
I'm glad you like it. But it's not something I'd recommend doing for a gaming model as it really limits It's use(no water no plane.)
Keep mulling over the idea of making a second version . For now this is the full league and thier transportation(if memory serves I did a thread on the league back in july(ish).)
I did a quick repaint on the yellow Texaco coin bank.Which is the sea plane I now use for land locked games.( it's on a base as the wheels reacted with the matt varnish and became  tacky ,and are still tacky now.)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on November 22, 2018, 05:20:22 AM
Is that supposed to be Cutter's Goose? Do you have the characters to go with it?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on November 22, 2018, 06:42:05 PM
 lol I like the supposed to be.
The answer is yes and no. It's quick repaint on the Ertl Texaco goose.(about an hour and half.)  It's not technically Cutters Goose. As I'd have painted the 'Cutters Goose' detail on the side. But the Cutters Goose was the only paint scheme I could think of at the time . Completely forgetting that theres a dirty great book on plane colour schemes sat on my shelves.
It's quite tempting to go back and put that detail on.
As I do have the Sally 4th Goose figures. The reason I haven't is the fear of it becoming a one trick pony.

That said I've literally in the last couple of day's bought the Wings of Texaco version( couldn't resist as it was only £10 in the Uk. ) Which has much better detail. Than the Ertl version. However the Ertl version has the coin slot hidden under a flip up cockpit canopy. Not in the top of the fuselage as in the case of the Wings of Texaco version.
So I'll have three seaplanes once it arrives. Which means I can either pimp the new one as Cutters Goose. Or just detail this one , and try a different paint scheme on the new one.
In truth I suspect it'll be down to a comparison and a the  level of enthusiasm I can must.  ::)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on November 22, 2018, 08:44:50 PM
Since you've already painted that one up in Cutter's Goose colors, tin shed gamer, why not just paint on the logo? Not a bad tv series to reference in a Pulp game, with good characters.

Have you seen the photos recently posted by Bracewell & Duvalier of their Cutter's Goose & characters on the Pulp Alley facebook group? That's what prompted me to ask. Such a coincidence that you just painted yours up in the same colors.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on November 22, 2018, 11:53:42 PM
Nope .I don't have Facebook.
This one's been painted since July. Having received instruction From my son the new one is more than likely to be used for the Tin Tin league.

Mark.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on November 23, 2018, 04:12:54 AM
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/36/149-221118212757.jpeg)

This is one of the images, the one posted on fb by Bracewell..
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on November 23, 2018, 09:35:36 AM
Thank you for posting the picture. (Definitely had my hands on the figures first  ;)) Admittedly I know begger all about aircraft kits but I suspect that one cost more than all of my sea planes put together.  All the same Its a nice looking set.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on December 08, 2018, 10:00:57 PM
Totally forgot to add this ,when it arrived.
These are both money boxes from the same manufacturer (Ertl.)
The white one is surprisingly heavy in comparison to the red one .Even more so when you forget it's metal and pick it up.
Mark.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on December 09, 2018, 08:24:10 AM
Totally forgot to add this ,when it arrived.
These are both money boxes from the same manufacturer (Ertl.)
The white one is surprisingly heavy in comparison to the red one .Even more so when you forget it's metal and pick it up.
Mark.

You probably forgot you had loaded it with pound coins.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: shadowbeast on December 09, 2018, 09:58:12 AM
Does anyone know what scales the New Ray diecasts turn out? My local Toyworld have gotten a restock of the four WW2 planes (B-25, DC-3, B-17 and B-29) as well as a new series of classic aircraft with Red Bull sponsorship.

http://www.new-ray.com/catalogue/NewRay%20HK/080.jpg

I don't trust what it says in the catalogue...
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tom q vaxy on December 15, 2018, 05:27:56 PM
how are you going to tell if they're coming?

http://www.cnn.com/style/article/war-sound-locators-before-radar/?iid=ob_article_footer_expansion
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tom q vaxy on December 21, 2018, 03:16:08 AM
I did a search of the site but no hits. has anyone considered one of the Industria Mechanika kits?

https://industriamechanika.com/shop/air/35-ian-mcque-s-remora.html
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tom q vaxy on December 22, 2018, 02:41:29 AM
some inspiration (for me, anyway!):

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/airship-cabin/88637
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on February 17, 2019, 11:14:53 PM
I apologize for this boring photo of a model plane still in the styrofoam in its box. I don't want to take it out of the box until I'm ready to put it on the game table. But I just stopped by my storage unit and took this photo on a whim, wanting to show it off here anyway.

This is a 1:48 scale Franklin Mint Ju-52 French civilian airliner:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/37/149-170219235933.jpeg)

On second thought, I'd better not leave such a lame photo up here for long. I'll have to get this out of the box and take some better photos.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Billchuck on February 18, 2019, 12:16:31 AM
On second thought, I'd better not leave such a lame photo up here for long. I'll have to get this out of the box and take some better photos.

Yes. In fact, you must take some photos of it in a game. :)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tom q vaxy on February 18, 2019, 01:21:00 AM
great piece of equipment. will you keep it "factory fresh" or weather it to a more used condition?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on February 18, 2019, 05:24:15 PM
great piece of equipment. will you keep it "factory fresh" or weather it to a more used condition?

No plans to weather any of my planes or vehicles at the moment. To much other stuff to do.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on February 18, 2019, 08:17:03 PM
Does anyone know what scales the New Ray diecasts turn out? My local Toyworld have gotten a restock of the four WW2 planes (B-25, DC-3, B-17 and B-29) as well as a new series of classic aircraft with Red Bull sponsorship.

http://www.new-ray.com/catalogue/NewRay%20HK/080.jpg

I don't trust what it says in the catalogue...

I’ve seen them in the box. The B-25 is supposed to be 1/72, I suspect it’s smaller. They are all essentially fit the box, so none of them will scale with 28mm. The one that does is the P-40, which does, roughly, work out at around 1/48, being a bit larger than my Hobby Boss one. Alas it’s a disaster in terms of detail, with the undecarriage completely wrong and the cockpit and integral pilot toy like. If I can be ever be bothered it will get converted into a crashed wreck.

Pity cos their helicopters are great little models and some are ideally scaled.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: d phipps on February 19, 2019, 09:56:29 AM
I apologize for this boring photo of a model plane still in the styrofoam in its box. I don't want to take it out of the box until I'm ready to put it on the game table. But I just stopped by my storage unit and took this photo on a whim, wanting to show it off here anyway.

This is a 1:48 scale Franklin Mint Ju-52 French civilian airliner:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/37/149-170219235933.jpeg)

On second thought, I'd better not leave such a lame photo up here for long. I'll have to get this out of the box and take some better photos.


Great looking model. What's the wingspan measure? 1:48 scale -- I'm guessing it must be close to 2'?

Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: ErikB on February 19, 2019, 07:45:05 PM
Cool!

But why buy a completed model instead of making it yourself?  That's half the fun.

If you're anywhere near the Bay Area in California, I'll help you with all your model building needs.  :-)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on February 19, 2019, 08:33:07 PM
A 1/48 Ju 52 would be massive - well over 2' wingspan... Not sure if this is true 1/48. Very interested in seeing how this looks on the table and next to miniatures to get a sense of how she really scales.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Leunstoelgeneraal on February 19, 2019, 08:45:52 PM
I noticed this thread just now and saw that there are already 48 pages ! So I take the liberty to mention the Czech producer of model kits SMER, hoping this was not mentioned yet.. See for instance here:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=smer+model+kits&rt=nc&_dcat=1189&_sacat=1189&vbn_id=7023633747&Scale=1%253A48&_fsrp=1

I have the Supermarine Walrus for years - the models are perfect for gaming at 1:48 scale. The link is eBay.co.uk, but I assume that there are also other sellers.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 19, 2019, 08:52:32 PM
  ;) Theres a fair few mentions of Smer.
I've a Walrus kit and a couple of other's too.

Mark.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Daeothar on February 28, 2019, 03:48:19 PM
A 1/48 Ju 52 would be massive - well over 2' wingspan... Not sure if this is true 1/48. Very interested in seeing how this looks on the table and next to miniatures to get a sense of how she really scales.

I bought a half finished Revell one for cheap, to be used as (crashed) scenery for my Fall Gelb project, and I can confirm it is absolutely HUGE. If I base the (torn off) wings separately, I might actually be able to handle and store it, but one thing is certain; it's going to completely dominate the table! ::)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: shadowbeast on March 06, 2019, 11:48:44 PM
I noticed this thread just now and saw that there are already 48 pages ! So I take the liberty to mention the Czech producer of model kits SMER, hoping this was not mentioned yet..

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

In fact, I shall soon be trying to rid myself of some SMER kits, and an ARII Willow trainer. I have to make my life more portable.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: GDonk on April 04, 2019, 06:30:52 PM
Not a suggestion for suitable models but I thought this might be of interest - a Players Cigarettes Card Album from, I think 1934/35, which I found at a local collector's fare recently. Contains a few lesser known (to me at least) civil aircraft.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warlord frod on April 04, 2019, 08:48:52 PM
What a wonderful resource. Thanks GDonk.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on April 04, 2019, 10:44:45 PM
Excellent find!

Many familiar models in there, but a few new ones too!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on April 04, 2019, 10:53:28 PM
Oh bugger.
Just when I thought I'd built enough planes  ::)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on April 05, 2019, 12:49:54 AM
 lol lol lol
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on April 05, 2019, 09:21:28 AM
It's the most pointless bloody thing on a 3'×3' table, they take up loads of space and you can't move them much if at all. Yet I still keep making them ( six now) o_o
Five seconds in to looking at the pictures and my nutty bonce has gone ooooh Gyrocopter its do able in card if I just do this and this I could...  Well its not as I haven't already sculpted something similar Bugger Buggering buggery ..Now I'll have to make one coz its stuck in there tick ticking away. ;D
I refuse to look at any more..
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: GDonk on April 05, 2019, 06:16:42 PM
It's the most pointless bloody thing on a 3'×3' table, they take up loads of space and you can't move them much if at all. Yet I still keep making them ( six now) o_o
Five seconds in to looking at the pictures and my nutty bonce has gone ooooh Gyrocopter its do able in card if I just do this and this I could...  Well its not as I haven't already sculpted something similar Bugger Buggering buggery ..Now I'll have to make one coz its stuck in there tick ticking away. ;D
I refuse to look at any more..
Sorry Mark ,I feel I have helped lead you astray in some way, although, as ever, I very much look forward to seeing the results . . .

When I get my hands on the military album (there is one . . . . ), I ABSOLUTELY, DFENITELY, won't immediately scan and post it on the forum - probably, almost for sure in fact  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on April 05, 2019, 06:48:51 PM
It's the most pointless bloody thing on a 3'×3' table, they take up loads of space and you can't move them much if at all.

That's why I prefer the high wing/shoulder wing configuration for large tabletop planes, as that leaves only the fuselage as actual blocking terrain (and depending on the the height of the undercarriage, the rule set in use, and specific choices by the GM, characters may be able to pass below that too).

Luckily the Pulp era offers us no shortage of choice for high-wing configuration planes.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on April 08, 2019, 06:54:26 PM
I've built mainly high wings (with the exception of the Walrus) with that in mind. It was more of a lighted comment on how plane's tend to be a lot of effort for posh hills.
Just for giggles I'll see if I can knock up an Autogyro tonight.
Mark.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on April 08, 2019, 10:22:23 PM
Admittedly in hindsight actually looking at photo's and the odd measurement wouldn't have gone amiss. ;)
But its close enough to see what it's ment to be.
I've not stood it with figures as that's more effort than I care to expend this evening.
I'll add a couple more pictures to the tri motor thread.
Mark.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: GDonk on April 09, 2019, 06:18:17 PM
Incredible work Mark, and so quick as well. Very nice indeed, love it. Joe
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: gweirda on April 10, 2019, 02:27:24 AM
Quote
Incredible work Mark, and so quick as well. Very nice indeed

That man needs a hobby...no...erm,wait...
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: shadowbeast on April 12, 2019, 12:55:11 AM
Reviresco just released a Bellanca W, printed or downloadable:
http://tin-soldier.com/paperaircraft1.html
Available as:
(http://tin-soldier.com/wpimages/wpc15c7970_05_06.jpg)
P-200 airliner, and
(http://tin-soldier.com/wpimages/wp3a83f5c4_05_06.jpg)
C-27 transport.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: warrenpeace on April 12, 2019, 04:40:54 AM
That's a very interesting airplane! Thanks for posting, shadowbeast.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on April 12, 2019, 02:29:49 PM
Nice fined .Always thought it would be a great plane for a dinosaur themed plup game, it has a prehistoric look about it. (Well to me anyway.)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: zemjw on April 12, 2019, 03:05:08 PM
Those are really nice planes.

I suspect p&p to the UK would be more than the kit, but the downloads are tempting

1/64 is railway "S" scale, and is 28mm, but it could look a bit tight against modern figures.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Charles92027 on April 13, 2019, 06:57:35 PM
You can always adjust the print size to get just the right scale.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: shadowbeast on October 28, 2019, 12:44:05 PM
Not always. Scaling upwards can lead to problems with resolution in a bitmapped image, or the square-cube law in the case of a vectored image.

Not really relevant, as it just becomes even more unwieldy trying to make the aircraft, essentially scenery most of the time, the right scale for figures that are a different scale in each direction you measure. You're not going to try cramming the figures aboard the aircraft, are you?

Also, less of a problem now that Ecardmodels (https://www.ecardmodels.com/product/1-48-breguet-14t2-f-jagb-paper-model-2/) are updating their store.
(https://www.ecardmodels.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/crct_DH_83_Fox_Moth_VH_UZS_cover.jpg)
(https://www.ecardmodels.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/crct_fairchld_f.71_interstate_p1-6_cover.jpg)
(https://www.ecardmodels.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/crct_Breguet_14T_F_JAGB_cover.jpg)
Buy the bigger ones and shrink.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Alcide Nikopol on October 28, 2019, 12:59:37 PM
Those paper kits look quite good and chocked full pulp style. My problem with paper kits is that I have always been ham-handed and my friends aren't much better so paper does last long on our tabletop.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Golgotha on April 07, 2020, 04:52:54 PM
I saw this recently looks ideal cheap too.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SMER-Avia-BH-11-Model-Plane-Scale-1-48/233548002671?hash=item36608bb56f:g:~EEAAOSw-Hheh0RU
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: GDonk on April 07, 2020, 05:00:22 PM
It won't be so cheap now that everyone on the forum will be bidding on it !!!  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Pulp Alley Plane
Post by: d phipps on May 18, 2020, 05:30:41 PM
Here's a project I finally finished for our Pulp Alley games....

(https://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o665/pulpalley/Vehicles/Planes%20and%20Boats/99557313_3158644434156726_7806321137444454400_o_zpsui32tlvm.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Alley Plane
Post by: WuZhuiQiu on May 18, 2020, 07:28:17 PM
Here's a project I finally finished for our Pulp Alley games....

(https://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o665/pulpalley/Vehicles/Planes%20and%20Boats/99557313_3158644434156726_7806321137444454400_o_zpsui32tlvm.jpg)

Nice work! Which kit is it based on?
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on May 18, 2020, 08:23:45 PM
Probably an actual Porco Rosso kit with no conversion needed! There's several available from various Japanese manufacturers.
Title: Re: Pulp Alley Plane
Post by: d phipps on May 18, 2020, 11:09:30 PM
Nice work! Which kit is it based on?

Probably an actual Porco Rosso kit with no conversion needed! There's several available from various Japanese manufacturers.

Yes, it's Porco Rosso's SAVOIA S.21 SEAPLANE by FINEMOLDS. 1:48 scale.

Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Ipecactus on June 04, 2020, 02:43:12 PM
Figured this was the perfect addition to this thread.
3D printer version of the L-16 Seaduck from cartoon Talespin. Can't think of a better aircraft that screams Pulp Adventure! Haven't had a chance to download it so I'm not sure what the base scale is...
https://www.ebay.de/itm/223714109282
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on June 04, 2020, 07:06:30 PM
Figured this was the perfect addition to this thread.
3D printer version of the L-16 Seaduck from cartoon Talespin. Can't think of a better aircraft that screams Pulp Adventure! Haven't had a chance to download it so I'm not sure what the base scale is...
https://www.ebay.de/itm/223714109282

Oh wow, there's some serious childhood nostalgia and pulp adventure all rolled into one.

I remember watching the original four-part movie with the air pirates that they made before it became a series (which then retroactively became the pilot). Needs some of Don Carnage's, triple-decker airpirate pursuit planes to go with it!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Ipecactus on June 05, 2020, 08:28:23 AM
Oh wow, there's some serious childhood nostalgia and pulp adventure all rolled into one.

I couldn't agree more!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Blackwolf on June 05, 2020, 09:26:41 AM
Cool 8) Just watched a clip,Don Carnages’ ‘planes are easily made...too tempting :)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: shadowbeast on February 15, 2021, 02:00:30 AM
Sarissa Precision finally has a plane to land on a table with their airfield kits:
https://sarissa-precision.com/products/light-plane-28mm?ct=t(SARISSA_PRECISION_NEWSLETTER_14_2_2021)&mc_cid=2c4ca44c25&mc_eid=5da2cec9c3
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: flatpack on February 15, 2021, 09:42:39 AM
Saw that Sarrisa pulp plane posted last night.
My goodness it’s ugly.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 15, 2021, 11:27:20 AM
I have to agree.
It's a half bothered design. There are some nice simple solutions involved in the wing struts and wheel assembly's
But the front end is just a mess. .
I'd like to be generous and say I'm not sure if it's a combination of an over worked paint scheme and a badly constructed kit.That's making it look worse than it is as it looks slightly better with floats and a different colour scheme
That said I'm tempted to get one just to see how naff it is.
What's worse It offended me to the point I'd figured out how to do a WIP/ tutorial so you could make one in an evening.
(Still a sneaking suspicion it's inspired by previous Tutorials. It wouldn't be the first time they'd made their own version.)

What suprized me more than the design is why they didn't go for a ww2 spotter plane or a Lysander..
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on February 15, 2021, 07:20:31 PM
That is one ugly goddamned plane. Why on earth did they do the nose as a stepped structure? YIKES.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on February 15, 2021, 09:27:01 PM
One is tempted to say it’s all down to the limits of the medium but no, that’s not true. It’s just a truly crap design.

I suppose if they passed it off as an aircraft sized piñata they might find a market. Given that you can find any number of toy aircraft or even plastic kits for that price or better, I wish them luck.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: shadowbeast on February 18, 2021, 07:23:43 AM
One is tempted to say it’s all down to the limits of the medium but no, that’s not true. It’s just a truly crap design.

I suppose if they passed it off as an aircraft sized piñata they might find a market. Given that you can find any number of toy aircraft or even plastic kits for that price or better, I wish them luck.

Where? The closest aircraft I can get is the old Minicraft ones which are all nightmarishly expensive, especially considering their age.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: zemjw on February 18, 2021, 10:51:30 AM
Revell still do a lot of 1/48 aircraft kits. Mostly fighter planes, but some others sneak in there as well -British S.E.5a on Amazon (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Revell-03907-Legends-S-5a/dp/B078395CC7/ref=sr_1_2)

I picked up a 1/48 lysander from Lindberg Models just over a year ago and I have an Italeri Cessna Skyhawk Amazon link (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Italeri-48-2764-CA-172-Skyhawk-vehicles/dp/B01I5GRSMI/ref=sr_1_2) as well as a Minicraft 1/48 Piper Cherokee floatplane.

The Cessna may be a bit too modern for traditional pulp, but there are several 1/48 seaplanes on Amazon just now that would work. Note, they're at really stupid prices on Amazon, but presumably can be found at more reasonable prices elsewhere.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 18, 2021, 12:22:40 PM
Definitely can't go wrong with a seaplane.
Quite a lot of on people use a 1/48 Walrus ( myself included.)
Smer kits are definitely the way to go. For gaming piece they're old fashioned in their level of detail . However it's an advantage for gaming as the parts tend to be a bit chunkier than modern scale models( and they're heavier.) Part fits are always ideal. But think the best way to describe them is . If you think of them as a scale model then you'll be disappointed. But if think of them as a multipart metal kit and expect to fill the odd gap then you'll be happy.
But the most important thing is the price.
For a Smer 1/48 Walrus expect to pay £12-£15 for the Edward or Airfix versions expect to pay £35-£48.(I did quick price check on eBay before replying.)
Alternatively Ertl and Wing's of Texico diecast are good stand in There hard to get at a reasonable price in the UK( at the time of posting) But not impossible if you regularly search for them you can pick them up under the radar the ones in the picture. I managed to find with a bit of patience for less than £15 each ( the texico one came in.the collectors box which has morphed into a hanger .)

The photo from left to right .1/48 Smear Walrus. Ertl Goose(repainted), Wings of texico ( not abused for gaming as of yet.)
The Ertl version isn't as detailed or refined as the Texico version. But it does have the advantage of having the coin slot hidden under a hinged canopy.

Just for fun heres the majority of my pulp plane collection,and hopefully it shows you don't have to spend alot to achive a useful models ( 5 of which are cereal packet card builds.)
There's enough variation in the collection to represent planes in flight as well as on the ground or the water( several have flight stand holes on their bellies. In fact that's the cunning plan for the Texico plane too. Admittedly I'm a butterfly so I've no Idea when it'll happen.)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: zemjw on February 18, 2021, 01:28:39 PM
I've just started rewatching Tales of the Gold Monkey and the Goose was definitely something on my "to get" list.

I didn't realise they even made one, so it's good to know that they do. Unfortunately, the only one I can see is on etsy (I don't do ebay). While it's not too expensive, the p&p from the States pushes it out of range for me.

What scale is it? Etsy says 7" long and 12" wide, which seems a bit small for 1/48. Wikipedia has it at 38ft long and 49ft wingspan, which would be 9.5" x 12.25" at 1/48. Seems slightly distorted as well, given those measurements.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 18, 2021, 10:50:11 PM
Made a slight error in the names of the money boxes the one painted as Cutters Goose is normally sold under the Gearbox label.( It was originally bright yellow and red.)

I couldn't get into the draw the other two seaplanes are in (way way too much stuff in the way.) But I did manage to grab the Texico one as it was being used as a paper weight.
The picture should give you an idea of how they scale up with 28mm figures. It's roughly 25cm long and has a 31.5cm wingspan. Plus a rough Idea of the size of the other two.
If memory serves I think this was covered when I originally posted a picture of the ' goose' along side the Walrus a while back on the thread. I think there was a link to a Facebook page where someone had done a model kit Grumman Goose. Marked up as Cutters Goose.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Blackwolf on February 18, 2021, 10:57:36 PM
And remember Pulp ‘planes don’t have to be pre WWII. I have a collection of WWII fighters,and a flying sub! All painted in a Crimson Skies style. Must photograph some day,though one or two can be found on the forum :)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: carlos marighela on February 19, 2021, 03:42:31 AM
Where? The closest aircraft I can get is the old Minicraft ones which are all nightmarishly expensive, especially considering their age.

Maybe my luck is better than yours but over the years I've picked up a number of SMER, Lindberg, Revell and Monogram type kits for anywhere between $7- 20 AUD, which is about four to twelve quid.  That Sarissa monstrosity retails at about $21 AUD minus p&p. For around $30AUD I picked up a Roden 1/48 DH-4 a few months ago. I have a SMER Tigermoth that cost me the princely sum of around $11 and a Bristol bulldog (albeit incomplete) for $7.00 at the last edition of the annual Model Show here.

Bring and buy sales, a number of online retailers, sales in local shops and even ebay have all proved profitable.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 20, 2021, 04:03:14 PM
Guy,
 Oddly enough I thought as was building and researching a Lysander for commission( new crew and resistance fighters.)
I came across the Westlands Wendover. I thought it'd make a great Pulp plane for a fictional Eastern European Principality
Or a mad build from leftover bits by you.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: StoneMtnMinis on March 11, 2021, 01:08:39 PM
This is one of the more interesting threads in the forum.

I appreciate all the work and ideas presented here.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Blackwolf on March 13, 2021, 01:27:34 AM
Guy,
 Oddly enough I thought as was building and researching a Lysander for commission( new crew and resistance fighters.)
I came across the Westlands Wendover. I thought it'd make a great Pulp plane for a fictional Eastern European Principality
Or a mad build from leftover bits by you.

Indeed! Sorry for the late reply :)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: shadowbeast on March 13, 2021, 01:36:08 AM
Maybe my luck is better than yours but over the years I've picked up a number of SMER, Lindberg, Revell and Monogram type kits for anywhere between $7- 20 AUD, which is about four to twelve quid.  That Sarissa monstrosity retails at about $21 AUD minus p&p. For around $30AUD I picked up a Roden 1/48 DH-4 a few months ago. I have a SMER Tigermoth that cost me the princely sum of around $11 and a Bristol bulldog (albeit incomplete) for $7.00 at the last edition of the annual Model Show here.

Bring and buy sales, a number of online retailers, sales in local shops and even ebay have all proved profitable.

Last time I got any SMER I had to order them from Japan.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Blackwolf on March 13, 2021, 01:47:24 AM
Shadowbeast do you know of BNA Models? Check their website out,they have everything a modeller could need,plus plenty of kits :)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: shadowbeast on March 13, 2021, 11:08:54 AM
Shadowbeast do you know of BNA Models? Check their website out,they have everything a modeller could need,plus plenty of kits :)
Yes. The only pulpy aircraft available there are too expensive to game with.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Daeothar on May 20, 2022, 09:32:24 AM
I still have a SMER Walruss, in forboding WIP state, stashed away somewhere for almost a decade now.

The plan was to make it a waterline model that I could also extend the wheels on, and add the bottom hull with magnets. However; I ran into some trouble working on the landing gear and by the time I thought of a workable solution, the campaign I was building it for had already been concluded (the pulp one with the many documents (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=40671.0) ;) ).

One of these days I ought to finish it. I even added a pretty accurate interior (because the scale modeler in me surfaced again) and converted some 28mm metal pilots to fly the thing...

A fun kit to build for sure, when you don't let yourself get bogged down in details and fancy technical stuffs... ::)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Blackwolf on May 20, 2022, 11:04:27 AM
Haha, I bought the Airfix Walrus with a load of photo etch, and great plans… It’s two years on now… :)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: aircav on May 20, 2022, 02:48:27 PM
Well I’ve never taken any notice if this thread before  :?

Or seen the Walrus kit - but I’m certainly going to go hunt one down now  :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Golgotha on May 21, 2022, 12:03:42 AM
The model manufacturer called Smer has a number of Pulp options see for instance:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2510209.m570.l1313&_nkw=smer+model&_sacat=0

Including a 1/50 scale Walrus... see page 2 in the link.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: tin shed gamer on May 21, 2022, 12:47:44 AM
The Smer Walrus is a fairly useful kit. I've beaten up several over the Year's.
It's worth noting that they're not particularly highly detailed nor are they particularly well fitting.  Infact the best way to approach them. Is as if they're a multi part metal kit Ratherthan a plastic scale model. (Nine times out of ten your going to have to gap fill and trim flash in order to get them to work.)
Once you approach them as a metal kit. Then they're a breeze. The Walrus in particular has chunky parts that Aesthetically fit really well with metal 28mm. The Smer version is much more forgiving than the Airfix one.When it comes to the wear and tear of gaming. Biggest advantage is you can actually have several Smer kits for the price of the Airfix one.So it's possible to make both a waterline one and have one on wheels.whilst still having enough left over to buy a blister of 28mm mini's as crew.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: diehard on May 21, 2022, 01:00:01 AM
 That is awesome. I definitely want one. Don't have any particular plans for one but want it anyway. And time to finally get that Gyrocopter too.

And TSG, beautiful paint jobs on the plane and the car!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: wolfen on May 26, 2022, 08:06:17 AM
Got a new toy today and had to take it out to play with. Franklin Mint 1:48 Ju52. This is on a 2” X 2” board

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52100432535_8204896e4e_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nnWkrz)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52099933756_a167a9fec7_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nnTMaW)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52100432470_30bb7ccfca_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nnWkqs)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: pistolpete on May 26, 2022, 11:50:56 AM
That looks great but holy moly that’s huge
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: FramFramson on May 26, 2022, 06:34:16 PM
Can you put figures inside? That's the real question with something that large!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Digits on May 26, 2022, 08:59:44 PM
That looks great but holy moly that’s huge

Not if it fits on a 2” x 2” board it ain’t! 😉

Joking aside, I had one in green…..lovely big model.
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: CapnJim on May 27, 2022, 12:59:26 AM
That's one nice looking plane.  And I know Franklin Mint stuff is really nice in the flesh.  Well, in the steel, I guess...
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on May 27, 2022, 09:08:07 AM
Lots to love in this thread. An inspirational collection!
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: zemjw on May 27, 2022, 05:06:05 PM
Saw an advert for a book on British Interwar aircraft today. No idea if it's any use, but may be worth a look £17.99 - https://shop.keypublishing.com/products/british-interwar-aircraft

Also, not strictly pulp, but Revell has a 1/48 Skymaster 0-2a - https://www.revell.de/en/products/modelmaking/model-sets/model-set-o-2a.html
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Blackwolf on May 28, 2022, 03:48:54 AM



         (https://myalbum.com/photo/6U3jfCATgAto/540.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on May 28, 2022, 09:36:01 AM


         (https://myalbum.com/photo/6U3jfCATgAto/540.jpg)

I don't recognize it, Guy. Is it a real plane or another Frankenstein? It looks a bit like a flying submarine...  :o
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Blackwolf on May 28, 2022, 10:30:24 AM
 lol Indeed yes,a Frankenstein’s monster of a ‘plane, and it’s 1/48! Built back when we did the weird war painting club  :)
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Michi on May 28, 2022, 11:41:32 AM
lol Indeed yes,a Frankenstein’s monster of a ‘plane, and it’s 1/48! Built back when we did the weird war painting club  :)

Thanks, I thought so. Excellent built!  :D
Title: Re: Pulp Plane Library
Post by: Blackwolf on May 28, 2022, 11:46:26 AM
Cheers Michael  :) I’ve got another submarine,similar size which may end as a spaceship  :D