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Title: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: tnjrp on October 03, 2013, 11:56:51 AM
They just keep on piling up on the 28mm scifi minis these days, don't they? The newest project that I know of comes from Anvil Industries, best known for its "slightly" Games Workshop inspired Exo-Lords minis line:
http://www.afterlifevolumes.com/

The game is some sort of narrative type thingy with various "Volumes" that apparently move the back story forward in a "player driven and interactive" manner. Sorta like what Corvus Belli is doing with Infinity, one supposes, except that there seems to be some sort of conclusion to this project.

The almost inevitable KickStarter is in the works.
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Inso on October 03, 2013, 12:34:29 PM
Am I allowed to say that I quite like the look of that trooper they are showing off?
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: AKULA on October 03, 2013, 12:48:25 PM
Two things put me off....

1) Kickstarter
2) "plastics is something we are considering"

 :(
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Commander Vyper on October 03, 2013, 02:51:02 PM
Asking for contributor artwork and narrative.  Didn't someone try this sort of thing earlier this year???? Pillars of something or other.

Anyway moving on..... ;)
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Cosmotiger on October 03, 2013, 06:44:29 PM
While their early not-Marines were dire, they've improved a lot.  I like the look of the big power armored fellow as well.

Couldn't give a fuck about their amazing new revolution in rules, though.
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Elbows on October 03, 2013, 08:10:43 PM
Two things put me off....

1) Kickstarter
2) "plastics is something we are considering"

 :(

Alright...I have to ask, why does everyone seem to hate Kickstarter?  There are some people who are vehemently against the stuff, and criticize companies for using it.  I can't for the life of me figure out why.  Can someone elaborate? 

PS: Not a huge fan of the images from the site, so nothing really intriguing here.
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: tnjrp on October 04, 2013, 06:32:24 AM
Hardly everyone hates KS, never mind the industry which still looks to positively love putting up KS projects. A lot of the minis related projects are still running just fine after all. I'm fairly sure people wouldn't pledge if they hated the idea so much.
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: manatic on October 04, 2013, 06:57:55 AM
Looks interesting. As long as the plastic isn't the spin cast variety - which it likely will be. I love the conversion potential of hard styrene.
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Vermis on October 04, 2013, 12:10:13 PM
Didn't someone try this sort of thing earlier this year???? Pillars of something or other.

Gates of Antares? That was a clattering mess. I have respect for Rick Priestly, but I can understand when people declare that the wargaming sun doesn't shine out his backside.

'Contributer artwork and narrative' waves a red flag for me. I haven't read the page, but that single statement makes me think they're trying to get the 'public' to do some work for them, instead of paying proper artists and writers. Would the future kickstarter help with that?

Second, remembering some of the initial concepts waved about for GoA, I hope Anvil've got more stringent selection standards.
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Anvil Industry on October 04, 2013, 01:30:29 PM
Hey Guys,

Joel here from Anvil Industry, to clarify a few things -

We will be using Kickstarter initially but with the exception of a few exclusive miniatures, the entire range will be available for direct and trade sales as soon as KS backers all have their stuff.

The Miniatures will either be hand cast resin (not spin). If and when we are able to get plastic kits done they will be proper plastic, the same stuff as GW kits.

There are similarities to be drawn between our project and Gates of Antares, but our player feedback mechanism will be simpler and have probably less effect.

I can confirm that we will be predominantly hiring professional artists and writers for this project and ensuring the quality of work produced and released is of extremely high quality, We'd of course love it our player base would make additional contributions.

Cheers,

Joel
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: rwwin on October 04, 2013, 06:46:52 PM
Alright...I have to ask, why does everyone seem to hate Kickstarter?  There are some people who are vehemently against the stuff, and criticize companies for using it.  I can't for the life of me figure out why.  Can someone elaborate? 

Not to derail the thread, but as Tnjrp stated it's not "everybody" that hate kickstarter, only a vocal few.  There are however a significant number who like kickstarter, but dislike is what they see as an abuse of it.  They believe (with some justification) that better established companies such as CMON and Mantic use Kickstarter as a pre-order system for projects they could afford themselves.  They believe it shifts too much risk from the company to the consumer.

I don't think it's worth getting bent out of shape over, as until Mantic and/or CMON have a project that fails to fund, kickstarter will be the norm, not the exception.
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Whitwort Stormbringer on October 04, 2013, 07:28:23 PM
The IP isn't something that I'm immediately drawn in by, but I do really like the concept of a wargame being released in volumes - seems like a cool and very consumer-friendly way of getting into a game.  Presumably Vol.1 will only require relatively few minis to play, and lay down the basics of gameplay with a few accompanying scenarios that serve to both establish the current setting of the narrative and familiarize players with the rules.

From there, further volumes can introduce new units, advanced rules, and have accompanying miniature releases allowing players to build up their collection and learn new rules piecemeal, escalating from small skirmishes to larger battles without having to make the up-front investment in a 40+ model army.

It's obviously contingent upon the volumes being released at fairly regular intervals, and being reasonably priced, as I imagine people wouldn't want to pay more (at least not significantly more) for multiple volumes that will, in the end, basically amount to a rule book + scenario source book.  Anyways, I guess the point is that the idea seems interesting and it could be fun for players to follow along.  Reminds me of both Medieval Tales and Space Vixens from Mars, and it seems like kind of a cool idea that could easily be introduced to almost any existing game.
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: rwwin on October 04, 2013, 09:04:16 PM
Having dealt with the volume idea with Dust Warfare, I'm not a big fan.  Inevitably you end up with volumes you just want the  rules for just one unit or scenario or whatever, but you don't want to shell out $30 for a book mostly full of things you don't need.  I'm more of a fan of releasing information model kit by model kit with the price of development wrapped up in the cost of production, then you are only paying for what you want.
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: manatic on October 04, 2013, 10:37:52 PM
Hey Guys,

Joel here from Anvil Industry, to clarify a few things -

Lovely post Joel, significantly increased my interest in your KS :)
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Dentatus on October 05, 2013, 01:56:41 AM
Don't need another new set of rules or to invest time/energy in a game IP, but I'll always buy cool minis.
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: tnjrp on October 07, 2013, 11:37:52 AM
There are however a significant number who like kickstarter, but dislike is what they see as an abuse of it.  They believe (with some justification) that better established companies such as CMON and Mantic use Kickstarter as a pre-order system for projects they could afford themselves
Even that number doesn't seem massively significant at the moment, in the light of this 4X:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=58838.0

"KS abuse" selling better than hotcakes there...

Anyway, as to the subject at hand: I'll prolly get interested myself if it starts to look like (some of) the minis will be produced in "hard plastic". Not so sure about resin, I've a bit of a doubt about its durability when used to make complete 28mm infantry miniatures intended as gaming pieces. The rules aren't much of incentive for me either but of course I'll check them out -- who knows, they might be great.
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: rwwin on October 07, 2013, 03:05:28 PM
Anyway, as to the subject at hand: I'll prolly get interested myself if it starts to look like (some of) the minis will be produced in "hard plastic". Not so sure about resin, I've a bit of a doubt about its durability when used to make complete 28mm infantry miniatures intended as gaming pieces.

I've got a good number of resin figures and it depends on your play style.  Mine live in foam and are only play with by adults, so I haven't had much in the way of issues.  Anything other than that and I think all bets are off for the figures holding up.
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: tnjrp on October 30, 2013, 11:15:35 AM
So. The "Prologue to Afterlife" KS is starting soon:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=538864609528196

The AI rep says that the KS is for
Quote
a background booklet (no rules yet) and lots of new models, however all the models we are KS'ing now will be fully usable with the first rules release!
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Andrew May on October 30, 2013, 07:40:55 PM
Whoops!
Here we go again:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1637892615/afterlife-the-narrative-wargame-project?ref=search
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Belgian on October 30, 2013, 08:25:17 PM
I just took a look and was wondering what the stretch goals are as I can't find them  :?
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: manatic on October 31, 2013, 06:40:29 AM
I just pitched in on this. Something about it just grabbed me, can't quite put my finger on it. "Free shipping" was a factor - and something that Anvil might be taking a big hit for.

Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: tnjrp on October 31, 2013, 07:11:06 AM
I suppose but then again maybe they are going to make up for it in the terms of miniature sales. They did have a very (suspiciously?) low funding limit so no surprise they are already nearing 2 x over mark. Maybe the KS funds go towards p&p :P
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Anvil Industry on October 31, 2013, 11:22:24 AM
Hello Everyone!

Thanks for your feedback and support!

Stretch Goals - I'm going to put some up later today.  To be honest I've been totally overwhelmed by the level of support for this project, I was not expecting it to fund in the first few days, let alone under 3 hours!

Shipping - We included free shipping as I think its fairest for everyone, and keeps things nice and simple. We do take a hit on profits but we've planned for it from the beginning. Shipping on our main website is free over £35 already so its only fair to extend this to the KS.

Funding Goal - Yes it was set fairly low, as I wasn't sure how much demand there was and luckily resin manufacturing has quite low initial costs, any left over profits when we have shipped all pledges will be ploughed straight back into new miniatures and professional quality art and written material for the game.

Cheers,

Joel - Anvil Industry
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: cheetor on October 31, 2013, 12:13:53 PM


Im tempted by this, the figure designs are cute.



Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Predatorpt on November 14, 2013, 10:04:09 PM
They just posted a video with some pre-production models and I have to say that they look awesome, specially the Gun Tractors! I really hope that these last 46 hours bring more backers into the fold.
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Dentatus on November 14, 2013, 10:42:15 PM
I'm in at Assault level. Free shipping pushed me over the edge.
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Commander Vyper on November 14, 2013, 11:02:56 PM
I'm in at vanguard. It's all Dwartist's fault.  ;D
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Predatorpt on November 14, 2013, 11:04:47 PM
I'm also at Vanguard Level  ;)
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: dwartist on November 15, 2013, 10:22:03 AM
I'm in at vanguard. It's all Dwartist's fault.  ;D

Take some responsibility for your actions, young'n'!
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: manatic on November 15, 2013, 07:41:18 PM
I switched from Assault to Vanguard - simply because of Anvil Industry's awesome customer service. Well done guys!
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Predatorpt on November 16, 2013, 01:37:30 PM
There's still 8 Vanguard spots available and 7 hours to go...just saying... :D
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Dentatus on November 16, 2013, 02:19:38 PM
Just put 2 and 2 together that A.I makes those Black Ops 'not-Space Marines'. (which are simultaneously very silly and uber-cool) Always thought if I played 40K, that's exactly how I'd want my army to look. Glad I can support them in this.

Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Predatorpt on November 16, 2013, 02:47:03 PM
Just put 2 and 2 together that A.I makes those Black Ops 'not-Space Marines'. (which are simultaneously very silly and uber-cool) Always thought if I played 40K, that's exactly how I'd want my army to look. Glad I can support them in this.



Never liked the Black Ops guys (too 'Space Marines' for my tastes), but these troopers look way better, specially the Republic ones, with their exoskeletons.
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Dentatus on November 16, 2013, 05:31:14 PM
Yes, clanky, clunky power-armor doesn't jive with 'black ops/deep recon' teams, IMO. But I really like their weapons and poses. If they'd been SM Scouts, I'd have been all over them.  For me, except for Inquisitor stuff, the whole 40K is just too silly.

My hope is they've translated the Deep Ops approach/dynamic to these generic human troop types.
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Commander Vyper on January 17, 2014, 06:33:35 PM
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/536/366/5d2b4425412b5fb9520d994587ac843a_large.jpg?1389980477)

looking reallly good!! :D
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: mcfonz on January 17, 2014, 06:37:45 PM
Had I realised this is what they were part of I wouldn't have posted a new thread!  ;D

Really nice looking miniatures.
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: majorsmith on January 17, 2014, 06:46:24 PM
These are really tasty!
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Commander Vyper on January 17, 2014, 08:11:22 PM
These are really tasty!

Really looking forward to these coming through the post.  :D
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: manatic on January 17, 2014, 10:30:06 PM
Very nice, glad I backed this! Those should go well with the Heresy troopers.
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: commissarmoody on January 17, 2014, 10:32:18 PM
They look pretty all right!
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: mcfonz on January 18, 2014, 12:16:40 AM
What these represent then, is a prime example of why kick starters should show good greens/masters or decent renders. I looked at their KS and thought most of the stuff on show was far to toy-like in proportion, concept and detail in a sort of Hasbro way.

These are nothing like that at all. Had I seen these I would have been a backer.  :D
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: commissarmoody on January 18, 2014, 12:36:53 AM
What these represent then, is a prime example of why kick starters should show good greens/masters or decent renders. I looked at their KS and thought most of the stuff on show was far to toy-like in proportion, concept and detail in a sort of Hasbro way.

These are nothing like that at all. Had I seen these I would have been a backer.  :D
Agree totally, renders are cool and all. But having a few sold copys really makes or breaks it.
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Dewbakuk on January 18, 2014, 07:19:40 AM
What these represent then, is a prime example of why kick starters should show good greens/masters or decent renders. I looked at their KS and thought most of the stuff on show was far to toy-like in proportion, concept and detail in a sort of Hasbro way.

These are nothing like that at all. Had I seen these I would have been a backer.  :D

But wasn't that the point of the Kickstarter? To raise the money to get these things sculpted? If they need the money to get them sculpted then they can't show the sculpts can they?

I know they had the basic renders but I read somewhere (probably posted earlier in this thread) a statement from them saying that was just for the components like guns and armour. They didn't represent the final poses. Looks like that's what they've done, they've printed the 'dolly', had it resin cast and then Andrew has broken them into the armour components and created proper poses and sculpts.
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Commander Vyper on January 18, 2014, 09:16:30 AM
But wasn't that the point of the Kickstarter? To raise the money to get these things sculpted? If they need the money to get them sculpted then they can't show the sculpts can they?

I know they had the basic renders but I read somewhere (probably posted earlier in this thread) a statement from them saying that was just for the components like guns and armour. They didn't represent the final poses. Looks like that's what they've done, they've printed the 'dolly', had it resin cast and then Andrew has broken them into the armour components and created proper poses and sculpts.

and we had a good idea if what they could produce rather than them being simply digital.

Really looking forward to these dropping through the post
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: mcfonz on January 18, 2014, 07:48:10 PM
Not sure I can agree with you there Vyper.

Their stuff isn't bad, but looking through their website you can't really there are really amazing standout pieces in there.

Their main miniature lines are the Exo-lords (not spacemarines) and the ARC (terminator like troopers). Neither are poor, but to me the concepts need refinement as are too clunky, more clunky than space marines even. What I have bought from them are the odd bits and pieces at shows like their bionic arms etc. They are not a bad company at all, but as I say, for the kickstarter all I saw was this:

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/257/522/747517822e045994ee0070fb2108efa7_large.jpg?1383137507)

To me, whilst I like elements of the suits and the miniature, I felt it still followed the style of their previous stuff.

I'm not suggesting that they should have a line of sculpts ready to show, but just one would have made the difference to me, as the miniatures in the flesh are such an improvement over their other stuff in my eyes.
Title: Re: Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Commander Vyper on January 18, 2014, 09:05:03 PM
I was talking about the physical products I'd seen before mate, I had a feeling that their quality was on the up and again the fact that they had a large range already produced, again this added alot for me ie translation of digital to physical so to speak.

And the digital sculpting being shown up'd the quality of their products in my eyes.

End of the day I backed it on that basis, totally agree that physical sculpt would have helped the wider backer recruitment. Finally, I think a pledge of £5 got you some artwork and access to the pledge calculator.



Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Ragnar on February 03, 2014, 11:11:04 PM
Gods!  The interface on Kickstarter is pox. 

Does anyone know how I can tell what number backer I am on a project?
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Commander Vyper on February 03, 2014, 11:18:01 PM
Wanting to know if you're one of the lucky 150 eh? ;)

Me too.  :D
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Ragnar on February 03, 2014, 11:23:23 PM
Wanting to know if you're one of the lucky 150 eh? ;)

Me too.  :D

Yep.  :)
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: dwartist on February 06, 2014, 01:00:22 PM
A box of 'goodies' arrived this morning - and I do mean 'goodies'! I've only had a quick look at the figures (still in their grip-bags) but what I can see is very, very impressive. Cast very cleanly in 'proper' resin (yer can keep yer restic shite!) with, on the quick inspection I've given them, no prominent mould lines (actually, haven't seen any!), no casting flaws and just a little flash. Great looking, 'hard' sci-fi troopers. wait 'til you see the detail on the exo-skeletons...Brilliant stuff!
I'll get a couple out of the bags later, blu-tak them and post a few pics on the blog.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Dentatus on February 06, 2014, 01:20:51 PM
"Sounds great!" he said, waiting impatiently in the USA

Looking forward to your brushwork, man.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: dwartist on February 07, 2014, 09:48:46 AM
put a few pics on the blog... http://dwartist.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/after-priming-and-afterlife.html

(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p97/dwartist/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/Afterlifebuilds012_zps4e6214bf.jpg) (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/dwartist/media/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/Afterlifebuilds012_zps4e6214bf.jpg.html)
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Commander Vyper on February 07, 2014, 10:43:54 AM
Hoping to see mine through today. Finger's crossed.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Ray Rivers on February 07, 2014, 11:14:00 AM
I bought their Exo-Lords.  :-*

I'm sure there will be no problem with quality.

Anvil seems to be moving a step at a time to offering better product and excellent prices.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: mcfonz on February 07, 2014, 11:36:05 AM
Just a quick question - are the heads separate?
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: dwartist on February 07, 2014, 12:03:39 PM
Just a quick question - are the heads separate?

Mostly no - just a couple of the troopers and the three 'Ajax' exo-mechs have separate heads the rest are cast to the torso (separate legs). Some variation possible but make sure the pistol wielding troopers have empty holsters!
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Dentatus on February 07, 2014, 02:53:34 PM
Good pix, dwartist. Thanks.

I'm very much looking forward to mine.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: mcfonz on February 07, 2014, 05:17:22 PM
Mixed feelings from me then.

I had a look at your blog too Dwartist and the pictures are pretty useful.

Some of my original fears appear to have come through to the final sculpts but the good thing is they are not all present and I am quite impressed with the step up these are on their other miniatures.

They could have been better with reducing the overall chunkiness about them, perhaps reduce the guns down a bit as well as the heads. Looking at the rifle barrels - they exceed the magazine size . . . something that always bugs me in that they are the two most important features on any gun concept to relate to each other, in terms of projectiles anyway.

I shall wait until I see the prices to decide whether to buy and hack the heads off or to go with the alternatives out there from the likes of Puppets of War or the maxmini ones.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Commander Vyper on February 07, 2014, 06:06:24 PM
Backed, received today and personally, well happy with them. :D


Read the background narrative booklet provided.  Really nice background too.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: manatic on February 07, 2014, 10:30:23 PM
A box of 'goodies' arrived this morning - and I do mean 'goodies'! I've only had a quick look at the figures (still in their grip-bags) but what I can see is very, very impressive. Cast very cleanly in 'proper' resin (yer can keep yer restic shite!) with, on the quick inspection I've given them, no prominent mould lines (actually, haven't seen any!), no casting flaws and just a little flash. Great looking, 'hard' sci-fi troopers.

Got mine today as well, and I'll just echo dwartist here!
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Centaur_Seducer on February 07, 2014, 10:57:17 PM
I totally forgot about this, and apparently, it was my loss :(
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: dwartist on February 08, 2014, 10:04:10 PM
I started painting the Unity Marine Corp troopers - I got a little too close with the lamp when taking the photos and 'bleached' out the highlights on the helmets but I think they'll paint up nicely.
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p97/dwartist/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/AIUnitymarinecorpwip004_zpsf8e79ef6.jpg) (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/dwartist/media/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/AIUnitymarinecorpwip004_zpsf8e79ef6.jpg.html) (http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p97/dwartist/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/AIUnitymarinecorpwip005_zpsdc1d3567.jpg) (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/dwartist/media/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/AIUnitymarinecorpwip005_zpsdc1d3567.jpg.html)
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Agis on February 09, 2014, 07:50:52 AM
Man, you are good! 8)
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: dwartist on February 09, 2014, 09:09:45 AM
Thanks A. better photo (?)
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p97/dwartist/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/UMC2003_zps37a7365c.jpg) (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/dwartist/media/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/UMC2003_zps37a7365c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Mr Kissyfur on February 09, 2014, 12:34:08 PM
Very nice - I've been keeping an eye on these for a while, as I'll be picking them up when they come out on the retail side of the site ( I won't do KS). I've been searching for suited human soldiers for a while, and there is surprisingly little choice (when you take a number of duffs out of the equation).  Along with all other sane people I do like the look of Pig Iron but I have an innate preference for plastic and resin...

The heads look a little large, though?
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: majorsmith on February 09, 2014, 12:47:30 PM
The faces look fantastic!
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Dentatus on February 09, 2014, 05:47:51 PM
I thought larger heads/hands are par for the course for minis, but you're right - those photos make it obvious.

Still looking good tho.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Agis on February 09, 2014, 05:57:53 PM
IMO Anvil Industries also aim for the GW market, therefore the 40Kish head size!
 ;)
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: tnjrp on February 10, 2014, 06:22:56 AM
Which is why I personally am not superkeen... the other reason is specifically that they are "real resin instead of restic crap", even tho AI looks to have designed them pretty well to fit the fact.

A gaming buddy used me as pledging proxy tho so I think I should be a parcel of these soonish.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: dwartist on February 10, 2014, 09:50:51 AM
I'm not a fan of 'Heroic' proportions such as we find in 40k and a lot of companies have moved away from this style to more realistic proportions but the AI troopers have the look of 'hard' sci-fi that really appeals to me - the heads are a little large but that's ok all things considered (not so obvious on the fully masked troopers).
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Anvil Industry on February 10, 2014, 11:26:03 AM
Hey Everyone,

Thanks very much for the discussion and comments! I do try to find and read any forum threads.

Physical sculpts certainly would have helped get more backers, there was certainly a huge boost in support when I posted a video of the prototypes with a couple of days to go.

For the launch of the full game I will be producing at the least a physical prototype, if not completed example sculpt, for each squad or unit offering. We learned a lot of lessons from the first KS to carry on with us.

@mcfonz and others on the topic of scaling -

I did give this some careful consideration. The heads and guns and some other parts are heroic scaled, but a lot less so than some plastic kits. I was aiming for the scale of Forge World Imperial guard miniatures which I think gets the balance just right.
Larger details make painting a lot easier and makes the models look better from a distance on the table top. With potentially thin parts like gun barrels and anything which sticks out, there is the durability of the model to consider also.
Matching the scale slightly toward the most popular kits also makes it more likely people will purchase the kits for use in other systems, which for a very small company like ours is an important consideration. So thats some of my reasoning behind the scale.

@Dwartist - Thanks for the photos, I'm really looking forward to seeing the completed figures and your photography is excellent also!  Could you send me an email? I've a few questions and not sure where best to contact you - info@anvilindustry.co.uk

Cheers,

Joel

Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: dwartist on February 10, 2014, 10:58:08 PM
a little progress...
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p97/dwartist/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/UCmarinetrooper007_zpsd0a986bc.jpg) (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/dwartist/media/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/UCmarinetrooper007_zpsd0a986bc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Commander Vyper on February 10, 2014, 11:23:37 PM
Gorgeous!!!  :-*

I'll send you mine!  :D
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: commissarmoody on February 11, 2014, 12:36:20 AM
Not bad at all
  :)
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Dentatus on February 11, 2014, 02:35:28 AM
Nice work as usual, Dwartist.

Still waiting on mine.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Achilles on February 11, 2014, 02:47:29 AM
Looks much less bobbleheady with the body getting some paint. Great faces Dwartist. :)
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Predatorpt on February 11, 2014, 03:24:28 PM
Received my stuff today (Backer 213) and I really have to say that these are the best resin casts I've seen in a while! I think they'll get a special place on my To Do list. Can't wait to paint them!

But I was missing the weapons tractors. Were they supposed to be sent later? I thought not because of this picture:

(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc508/AnvilIndustry/pancontinentalrepublic_zps571fb6cf.jpg)
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Achilles on February 11, 2014, 03:33:35 PM
Those hardsuits are pretty cool!
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Agis on February 11, 2014, 03:45:17 PM
Those hardsuits are pretty cool!
Thought so too, they would fit the ViDe Future Combat H-PACs units perfectly! ;)
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: dwartist on February 11, 2014, 05:55:41 PM
I think you should have the tractors if you ordered them, Rodrigo. Drop him an email, nice guy and very responsive.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Predatorpt on February 11, 2014, 06:37:10 PM
I think you should have the tractors if you ordered them, Rodrigo. Drop him an email, nice guy and very responsive.

(http://img.pandawhale.com/78634-Jesse-Pinkman-Ive-made-a-huge-7Htc.jpeg)

You hit the nail right in the head - if I had ordered them...- I thought they were included and not an add-on. I've ordered them now and made a public apology on the KS page.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Commander Vyper on February 11, 2014, 06:58:26 PM
Yeah never got to the £13k mark s no freebee unfortunately and I too forgot to order them as part of the add on options.

edit- ordered now!  ;)

Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Predatorpt on February 11, 2014, 07:41:59 PM
Yeah never got to the £13k mark s no freebee unfortunately and I tool forgot to order them as part of the add on options.



It was that goal that confused me. I thought everyone was getting the tractors and when I received the email, simply thought - no, I don't need another 5 tractors  :?
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: dwartist on February 11, 2014, 11:05:30 PM
progressing...
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p97/dwartist/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/UnityMarinelegarmour002_zpse5472689.jpg) (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/dwartist/media/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/UnityMarinelegarmour002_zpse5472689.jpg.html)
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: dwartist on February 12, 2014, 03:42:31 PM
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p97/dwartist/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/UnityMarinetroopers010_zps9924d308.jpg) (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/dwartist/media/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/UnityMarinetroopers010_zps9924d308.jpg.html)
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: tnjrp on February 13, 2014, 11:48:53 AM
A gaming buddy used me as pledging proxy tho so I think I should be a parcel of these soonish
Turns out I had given my buddy's address for the delivery so the parcel landed at his workplace instead of my home.

He gave the product two thumbs up and didn't even really seem to see the "heroic" proportions of the minis when I asked about it. Then again, he's pretty keen on GW stuff so he wouldn't find big heads aesthetic off-putting an sich.

But regardless, he's a happy customer and that's all that matters really since he paid the bill 8)
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: dwartist on February 13, 2014, 12:06:14 PM
The tractors are little beauties!
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Dentatus on February 13, 2014, 01:23:12 PM
It was that goal that confused me. I thought everyone was getting the tractors and when I received the email, simply thought - no, I don't need another 5 tractors  :?

Same here. Ah well - gotta pay closer attention, I guess. 

Mine arrived yesterday and the figs are certainly nice. I'll pass on another order for now tho.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Predatorpt on February 13, 2014, 01:26:21 PM
Same here. Ah well - gotta pay closer attention, I guess. 

Mine arrived yesterday and the figs are certainly nice. I'll pass on another order for now tho.

If you don't mind me asking, how do they look in size compared to the Puppets War troopers?
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: dwartist on February 13, 2014, 05:33:57 PM
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p97/dwartist/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/Afterliferebublictroopers005_zps2a048e1e.jpg) (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/dwartist/media/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/Afterliferebublictroopers005_zps2a048e1e.jpg.html) (http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p97/dwartist/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/UnityCouncilMarines006_zpsc0ce854e.jpg) (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/dwartist/media/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/UnityCouncilMarines006_zpsc0ce854e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Commander Vyper on February 13, 2014, 07:18:35 PM
The tractors are little beauties!

Can't wait for mine to arrive tomorrow.   :-*
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Ragnar on February 14, 2014, 01:25:45 AM
Got mine.  /happydance

Sadly, I am in the middle of moving house, so no playing with them yet.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Dentatus on February 14, 2014, 01:17:26 PM
Coming down to glass work and writing deadlines, so hobby-time is sparse at the moment. I'll post comparison photos ASAP. (if someone else doesn't get to it first.)
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Predatorpt on February 14, 2014, 01:43:49 PM
Coming down to glass work and writing deadlines, so hobby-time is sparse at the moment. I'll post comparison photos ASAP. (if someone else doesn't get to it first.)


Thanks! I would settle for a ballpark estimate but pics are way better  ;)

BTW, when are you planning to release the complete version of 'Shift Tense'? I see that 3rd part is already up. (and my apologies to the OP for the topic derailment).
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Dentatus on February 14, 2014, 06:39:38 PM
Off Topic Re. Shift Tense: Thanks for asking. I'll release the full version in print and ecopy late this year. It will include at least one additional Eshu International short story as bonus material. 99.9% of my sales are in e-format, and I want to give the three sections time to circulate. The exclusive material will differentiate the full version from the installments. That way, potential readers can sample my work without significant expense, or buy the full-on novel.   

The serialization experiment with book 2 was a response to the predominance of electronic sales, the reported preference for series and shorter-length material, and a way to increase the number of titles with my name on it. Without specific feedback, I can't say exactly how well it worked, but sales are brisk, so I'm guessing it's acceptable. Thanks again.

I'll get some figs together and get pix asap.


 
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: dwartist on February 14, 2014, 11:13:22 PM
nearly finished the two Republic Grenadiers...
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p97/dwartist/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/Republicgrenadiersprogress006_zpsb63262c5.jpg) (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/dwartist/media/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/Republicgrenadiersprogress006_zpsb63262c5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Predatorpt on February 15, 2014, 02:51:33 AM
nearly finished the two Republic Grenadiers...
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p97/dwartist/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/Republicgrenadiersprogress006_zpsb63262c5.jpg) (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/dwartist/media/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/Republicgrenadiersprogress006_zpsb63262c5.jpg.html)

Great work as usual, David! You say they aren't finished but look way better than anything I've ever painted, lol. These Grenadiers are great sculpts and they look even better with that camo pattern you used ;)
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: mcfonz on February 21, 2014, 01:53:08 PM
Does anyone have any comparison shots alongside your usual suspects? Hasslefree etc?

I'm tempted to get some to hack the heads off of and replace with maxmini ones. But I need a better scale reference first! Plus obviously have to wait for their official release.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Grimmnar on February 23, 2014, 03:35:26 AM
nearly finished the two Republic Grenadiers...
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p97/dwartist/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/Republicgrenadiersprogress006_zpsb63262c5.jpg) (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/dwartist/media/Russian%20suit%20and%20Sturmtruppen/2013/2013%20number%202/Republicgrenadiersprogress006_zpsb63262c5.jpg.html)
Set aside that Dwartist cant paint as we all know and has done an awesome job i have a question on these figs.
I know the these figs, i think, are supposed to be armed with over/under grenade launchers. With that said are the main weapons supposed to be huge caliber riles with low qty magazines? The barrels look bigger then what i think are the GL's. Seems to me the main armament will be larger and have fewer rounds to fire before reload.
Thoughts?

Grimm
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: tnjrp on February 23, 2014, 06:57:48 AM
Haven't read the booklet so I can't say what the guns are supposed to be or if indeed it is specified at all. So I'll err on the side cynicism and assume the large caliber is just another nod to the "Games Workshop look".
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Love_the_Lash on February 23, 2014, 08:54:13 PM
Anyone know when we can expect a release for us lowly non-kickstarter types?
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Anvil Industry: Afterlife
Post by: Anvil Industry on February 24, 2014, 04:13:15 PM
Hi Guys,

The Grenadier weapon is based on the US Armies now cancelled OICW program.

The larger rear mag contains 40mm rifle grenades which it feeds into the larger top barrel.
Forward of the trigger is a smaller mag, containing caseless ammunition for the small carbine which is the lower of the two barrels.

The weapons mags and barrels are slightly "heroic" scaled, this is to make the details more visible when gaming, make them easier to paint, and importantly, to make the figures more durable. The resin used is high quality and slightly flexible, but thicker parts are still tougher!

@Love_the_Lash they will be available for retail Pre-Order tommorow hopefully, or early next week, either way retail kits will start shipping around the weekend of the 8th March.

Cheers,

Joel,

Anvil Industry