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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: John b on October 23, 2013, 10:56:15 PM
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So Iv decided to start a bolt action army in 15mm, the above is the start of this force.
I'm using battle front FOW miniatures as my local WarGameStore has almost the full range.
Dos anyone have any advice for me? Iv based each miniature on 1p's and teams on 2p's
Iv painted a few FOW miniatures in the past so I will follow the same process
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Nice figs, I think you will enjoy playing 15mm BA. More pics as they come please!
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I don't own the Bolt Action rules, so no advice, but I really like the looks of the figs you have painted. :)
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So after I put my British para force together I went and had a look in my bits box and found I had a German HQ bluster a rifle platoon and a HMG section
So
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Looks like Iv got the starts of a German force to, but it was late so sorry about the poor pic quality.
I will look through my storage as I do believe I have a tiger tank and a fire fly somewhere.
Il start to back fill each base tonight.
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I don't own the Bolt Action rules, so no advice, but I really like the looks of the figs you have painted. :)
Thanks, I painted these over a year ago, I will be posting more pics as I progress with this so keep an eye out.
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I think it is not allowed to play it in 15mm, or is it????? lol
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Nice idea. I'd considered 15mm too at some point but eventually went with 28's just because its what I'm used to. I'll be interested to follow your progress with this. :D
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I have played it in 15s and it seemed to work fine without any changes to the distances etc.
I also based on 1ps and 2ps and then just used the FOW based HMG teams/ Mortar teams and vehicles. I only really needed to base up the spares of the infantry I had knocking about.
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15mm actually matches the typical weapon ranges far better better than it does in 28mm... 12mm would be almost spot on.
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I will post pics of stage by stage as I progress :)
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Tonight's progress
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Iv used Vallejo pumice to fill the gap in between the base of the base(penny's) and the side of the miniature.
Iv used this stuff before and I always apply it before I paint as I find it Easier to clean up rather than re painting any mistakes, it should take about 30 min to dry so il get cracking with the British paras.
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While I wait for the pumis to dry Iv started to look at painting guides and remrmbered that I found this site ages ago and thought wow this is a site all ww2 miniature painters need to know about
http://www.militarymodelling.com/forums/postings.asp?th=23796&p=2
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So I had a spare hour today and was able to back fill all the bases for my British para force
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This is what I now have ready to prime and then the mamouth job of painting it all starts
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I think to bolster my Germans i will add a tiger tank as I have one sat about somewhere
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Hi John,
This project is certainly interesting and taking Bolt Action rules to another level using 15 mm. Your the first I've noticed using this scale.
What will be interesting using 15 mm miniatures will be your opinion once you have had a game.
I can see some positives already in folks may wish to game other conflicts using this scale. For example, the SCW or Chaco War.
Interesting topic and please keep submitting reports.
Cheers,
Helen
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So I had a Spare hour today and was able to prime both my Germans and my British
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I used Vallejo grey surface primer straight through my airbrush, I use grey as I find its the best medium colour and I know there are other colours but I always put a thin coat of this down as its always works for me.
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So the next thing I need to look at is how to base mortar teams and field artillery?
Iv been thinking that the FOW bases would be fine to use as this will allow me to use some of the sculpted bases and that would add some great detail to each force but then Iv been thinking that I could use some of the renedra bases I have sat about and take the time to sculpt each base so that each model could be removable? This would help to show casualties ect and keep track of any - modifiers such teams or weapon might suffer with the loss of crew members?
I also want to try todo something different for pinned markers? These are very useful and warlord do a nice set but they look to big next to the 15mm??
If anyone has any thoughts on this please do share them
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you could get some dead figures and stick them on pennys and have a number (eg 1 to 10) on it to show the pins.
This would not stick out on the wargames table.
or
warbases do plastic markers to your requirement.
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I like the sound of dead soliders as pining markers
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Peter Pig do sets of markers, their pinned ones are a row of bullet splashes. They also have some excellent casualty & surrendering figures.
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There's of course the bailed tank crew; some of them are usefu for injured infantry (for the Germans at least).
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There's of course the bailed tank crew; some of them are usefu for injured infantry (for the Germans at least).
This is a great idea as I think the British do bailed out tank crews :)
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15 mm for BA looks like a more than appropriate scale. I will follow the painting process!
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Well Iv just solved the pinning marker idea and with abit of advice from my friend Len Iv decided to make some crater/blast markers using 1p and a small amount of putty, just need to get my head back into sculpting.
So stay tuned for further updates
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So I had a Sapir 20 minutes before and was able to put the first bit of colour onto my Germans
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As these will just be standard troops Iv decided to paint them using basic colours and opted for Vallejo German field grey.
I used my airbrush to save time and as its the biggest colour, the mix I use is 1:1 paint and water roughly depending on the paint.
The other colours I will apply with a brush
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I started doing Bolt Action in 28mm but the local club has decided on the 15mm route so I've ordered the bits for my early war Germans :) Will be following this thread for ideas to pinch ;)
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I started doing Bolt Action in 28mm but the local club has decided on the 15mm route so I've ordered the bits for my early war Germans :) Will be following this thread for ideas to pinch ;)
Il be posting every step of this project but if you have or see any good ideas please post them up.
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I wasn't happy with the German field grey as it was abit too dark so I lightened the surface areas if the uniform with a 1:1 mix of German field grey and green grey and I'm happy now with the colour
And used a basic flesh base for the hands and faces
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I'm sorry it's slow progress but I currently have schingels so abit off my gaming/ painting mojo
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Had my figures through. Cleaned up and based but I use Galeria Heavy Carvable Modelling Paste to build up the bases. Its very similar to GW's liquid green stuff but a lot cheaper (around £7 for a big tub).
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Looking good, see you have gone for the 2p option for team weapons too. I still can't decide how to base my mortars and HMG teams :(
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I like your idea of using the FOW bases, I think its the one I'll use. For pin markers I'm planning on basing a casualty figure on a 2p with room for a small 6mm die.
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I like your idea of using the FOW bases, I think its the one I'll use. For pin markers I'm planning on basing a casualty figure on a 2p with room for a small 6mm die.
This is a great idea
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The figs look great and the pin marker is a nice idea. We have been playing Bolt Action in 15mm since it came out with no modifications. As others have commented you'll find it a much better game in this scale than 28mm IMO.
It also means we have painted forces to play with and get a much bigger selection of vehicles without having to break the bank to do it.
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Minibits produce Hit Marker Dice Frames which you might find useful
http://www.minibits.net/Hit-Marker-Dice-Frames-c22/
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Sorry I haven't added any painting updates for a few day but haven't had a chance todo any painting.
I popped into my local WarGameStore and spotted this
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It gives me 84 men with a great variety of poses ect so looks like I'm now doing boltaction winter Americans :)
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Our club plays BA in 15mm exclusively....We were all big FoW players, so everyone had lots of figures kicking around, made sense, and we like the ground scale effect of it...
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Our club plays BA in 15mm exclusively....We were all big FoW players, so everyone had lots of figures kicking around, made sense, and we like the ground scale effect of it...
If you have any pics or tips or advice please do add them
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I'll see what I can find, we have alot of battle reports up on our club forum, torontohmg.org/forum
We already had terrain for FoW, and decided for the low cost of entry, we'd do it in 15mm. What kind of tips are you looking for? I'd be happy to contribute what I can.
For my guys, I used the plastic US Paras from the new boxed game, so far I've only played 500pt games,
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Anything is welcome especially pics of games or cool ideas ect :)
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As Iv been collectin FOW for about 3 years now I have amassed a lot of army's and now Iv turned my attention to bolt action but using 15mm for a scale the link below will add even more depth and chose to my future gaming and also slow my to use some of my existing miniature as well as alow me to explore some miniature options I would never have given a second look too
Check the link out
http://www.warlordgames.com/downloads/pdf/BA-armoured-platoons.pdf
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I've played Bolt Action with my 15mm FoW figures and also started a sci-fi idea in 15mm. I only have some really bad photos of one game though as i'm currently camera-less.
http://normedra.blogspot.fr/2013/10/time-for-some-action.html
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A busy day today sorry for few posts but my phone/camera went to the big digital grave yard in the sky :(
But il have a new one tomorrow and will post my progress on both my Germans and British tomorrow
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I'll see what I can find, we have alot of battle reports up on our club forum, torontohmg.org/forum
Can't see your forum - is it set to private?
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What are the basic squad/platoon sizes for Bolt Action?
Have a lot of Peter Pig, Skytrex and FOW WW2 infantry and now considering looking at these rules for gaming smaller actions after getting bored by large multiple element based unit games. Also like the idea of using small tank units rather than wall to wall panzers and shermans slugging it out on the table.
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The basic size of force in bolt action is a reinforced platoon. Basically 3-4 squads of up to 10 men (in general) with a few bits of support, HMG's, mortars, snipers etc and the odd armoured vehicle.
If you were still looking at Sealion (which I seem to remember you were at some point) there are lists in both the British and German book for the operation.
Any other help give me a shout dm. ;)
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Thanks Ray and intend to do just that with Home Guard V Paras and maybe regular infantry for both and Peter Pig cover some nice stuff now for this 'What If' period. Also fancy doing something set in 1945 in the final days against the Russians in Germany. At present most of my collection is still packed in boxes till i get a new place to live but two projects i now feel like doing once i've found a place and have plenty of miniatures to cover both and also have some AFV's for the periods.
Looking forward to seeing other peoples projects develop and will be keeping an eye on this thread :)
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Watching this thread with great interest. I have a small American collection for FoW but I'm not sure how inclined I am to the ruleset, considering rebasing them for Chain of Command and getting some Germans
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Hi everyone, sorry I haven't posted on this topic for a while but been busy with a few painting commissions and just got a full time contract with work and alot more hours= more money to buy miniatures. Iv got almost two army painted now and I will be dipping them this week ready to start playing a few games.
I noticed that there has been ALOT of interest in this idea so as me and my friends start to go through the basics of playing bolt action but with 15mm are there any questions people might have or any particular part you would like to see me test and explain?
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Can't see your forum - is it set to private?
You should be able to see it if yo register.
@John B here is my most recent BA/15mm AAR. The club ran a one day campaign. Not the best pics as they're off my cell phone but Fiery Monkey Boy's blog has better pictures of BA games.
http://thorsteinnaheidini.blogspot.ca/2013/12/operation-quarterback-day-1.html (http://thorsteinnaheidini.blogspot.ca/2013/12/operation-quarterback-day-1.html)
http://themonkeythatwalks.blogspot.ca/2013/11/operation-quarterback.html (http://themonkeythatwalks.blogspot.ca/2013/11/operation-quarterback.html)
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Brilliant il be doing a few AAR as soon as Christmas is out of the way and I have a few little projects wrapped up :)
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Sorry for the lack of updates but with the arrival of my baby son Iv been abit busy.
So hear is what Iv been upto over the last few days
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British paras ready to dip
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German heer troops ready to dip
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British commandos ready to paint
With abit of luck il get all these ready and dipped by the weekend and il have some more updates soon.
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Sweet! I would love to see a closer look to a single model. What do you use to dip them? Also a before-after picture could be really appreciated i think! :)
Cheers
Jack
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Il be using the army painter dip, once there all dipped il post LOTS of pics :)
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Congratulations on the new arrival!
I finished off some 15mm US rifles early the other morning after one of my toddlers woke me nice and early :P
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Thanks pop a pic up if you have one :)
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Sorry for the long delay but finally got round to playing bolt action in 15mm and wow I'm hooked, hear are a few pics if tonight's game :)
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This was just a small test game to see how the rules worked with 15mm
We opted not to change any measurements or distances and simply ran the game as if it was 28mm and it flowed perfectly
The smaller miniatures gave more of a realistic feel to the distances each weapon has as well as troop movement ect
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So after a few months break Iv got round to painting
Hear are my BoltAction in 15mm LRDG
Hope you enjoy
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Great pics and scenery :-*
What scale did you use for the railroad ? Ho, N, or anything else ? Or is it scratchbuilt railroad ?
thanks
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I believe the train track is a flames if war one at my old club
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this is very cool, I have wanted to do the same, I already have WWII in 3 scales, 28mm, 20m, and 15mm, time to get everything painted is all that is stopping me, well done on these.