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Miniatures Adventure => Colonial Adventures => Topic started by: Helen on May 28, 2008, 08:24:54 AM
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Hi Folks,
Did anyone notice this on the SD forum about a new range for Anglian Miniatures?
http://www.sdforum.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11755
Once again we see the talented Mr Paul Hicks at his best.
I love the tribal leader :-*
Great work once again guys! 8)
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I'd like to see the Italians. They should work for the Libya theatre to, no?
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Aren't Anglian somewhat smaller than Brigade/Copplestone etc. If so I suspect they won't mix with the Artizan Italian figures. On the other hand they'll probably match Castaway's Abyssinians nicely, many of which would be ideal.
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the leader is awesome, that range could be a nice new project ;D
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me thinks some of these will be coming my way to go with the Askari miniatures I am doing at the mo.
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I'll be doing these for sure. The Etheopians had some fantastic clothing for the period.
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I'm not an expert on the Italian conquest, but that fellow looks like he'd be equally happy taking on the Italians in the 1890s, or the Brits in the 1860s.
I wonder if they will do Abyssinian regulars? What about World War Two? Could have some KAR then...
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I vowed not to start another period.
Fat chance with figures like this.....
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I forget how these things get about the interweb!!!
OK ,Yes Anglian is starting a new range. as the SCW range now has enough core packs for me to just add the special bits n bobs.
First release for the Italo-Abyssinian range will be at the Firepower show in August, just two packs of Abyssinian warriors to start with, but we hope to cover the conflict in the same amount of depth as our SCW range. So you can expect Tribal levies, Regular troops and Royal Bodyguards for the Abyssinian range, and Royal Army, MSVN,Bersaglieri, Dubats, Somalian and Libyan colonial troops for the Italians.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........purty.
I know damn-all about it, but the chap looks cool.
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I forget how these things get about the interweb!!!
OK ,Yes Anglian is starting a new range. as the SCW range now has enough core packs for me to just add the special bits n bobs.
First release for the Italo-Abyssinian range will be at the Firepower show in August, just two packs of Abyssinian warriors to start with, but we hope to cover the conflict in the same amount of depth as our SCW range. So you can expect Tribal levies, Regular troops and Royal Bodyguards for the Abyssinian range, and Royal Army, MSVN,Bersaglieri, Dubats, Somalian and Libyan colonial troops for the Italians.
Might we see the Abyssinia range expanded into WW2? Wingate and his chaps etc.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........purty.
I know damn-all about it, but the chap looks cool.
This book from Osprey would be a good start:
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s266/HelenBachaus/P6922AS.jpg)
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Cheers Helen! ;)
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A word of warning. Even for an Osprey this one is very light on for any meaningful info. I recently had a look at the Foundry produced Revolts and Rebellions tome and that is probably a better basic primer in that it at least had some better OOB content of course you substitute colour plates for line drawings.
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A word of warning. Even for an Osprey this one is very light on for any meaningful info. I recently had a look at the Foundry produced Revolts and Rebellions tome and that is probably a better basic primer in that it at least had some better OOB content of course you substitute colour plates for line drawings.
Hi Carlos,
Thankyou 8)
I've read on a couple of forums that the author is talking about the Italians more for 1940 and not 1936. Have you seen such comments?
This would pose a concern for folks wanting a nice overview without having to dish-out for more expensive books.
R&R is about the best available today covering the period for a gamer with a few uniform and vehicle books in addition.
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I only had a quick squizz at the Foundry book but no what I read seemed squarely aimed at the 1936 period. There's another chapter in there on the campaigns in Libya in the 1920s.
Actually I was pleasantly surprised when shown a copy. As a primer on a diverse range of subjects it's pretty bloody good and as copies are selling through the Book Depository in for £24.00 and free worldwide postage I'm going to buy a copy. Thats a pretty bloody good deal. That said It's still just a primer. I looked at the sources for the chapter on Lampiao and the Cangaceiros and it wasn't that deeply researched but full marks for bringing a relatively obscure topic to a broader audience.
As for the Osprey, well the TO&E material, what little there is seems more based on 1940. There are a number of errors and frankly it seems pretty shallow. It woud have been intersting to see what someone with access to Italian military archives would have done. If you haunt the Test of Battle forums you can ask Arturo Lorioli for a bit more detail, he's quite a good source for the Italian Army.
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The Osprey book, the uniform info is pretty good, the other bits need a more cautious approach. as there are a number of inaccuracies.
Foundry book is an excellent taster for the smaller conflicts, and well worth getting.
I'll be sourcing info from various places for the figure range, you can't just rely on Ospreys after all ;)
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The Osprey book, the uniform info is pretty good, the other bits need a more cautious approach. as there are a number of inaccuracies.
Foundry book is an excellent taster for the smaller conflicts, and well worth getting.
I'll be sourcing info from various places for the figure range, you can't just rely on Ospreys after all ;)
Hi Nigel,
Can you provide a list of references for folks who may want to look into this campaign a little deeper!
Many Thanks. 8)
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The Osprey book, the uniform info is pretty good, the other bits need a more cautious approach. as there are a number of inaccuracies.
Foundry book is an excellent taster for the smaller conflicts, and well worth getting.
I'll be sourcing info from various places for the figure range, you can't just rely on Ospreys after all ;)
Hi Nigel,
Can you provide a list of references for folks who may want to look into this campaign a little deeper!
Many Thanks. 8)
Hi Helen
yep, no problem, waiting on a few titles to appear from various places, once I've seen them, I'll post a list of what I've used.
Nigel
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The Osprey book, the uniform info is pretty good, the other bits need a more cautious approach. as there are a number of inaccuracies.
Foundry book is an excellent taster for the smaller conflicts, and well worth getting.
I'll be sourcing info from various places for the figure range, you can't just rely on Ospreys after all ;)
Hi Nigel,
Can you provide a list of references for folks who may want to look into this campaign a little deeper!
Many Thanks. 8)
Hi Helen
yep, no problem, waiting on a few titles to appear from various places, once I've seen them, I'll post a list of what I've used.
Nigel
Many thanks Nigel. 8)
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I've had"The rape of ethiopia" by A J Barker (Ballantines hist. of 20thcent)propped up in front of my osprey shelf for a couple of months now got it for 2 bucks (cdn) at the local charity booksale. After reading this thread ,I think I'll give it a read or at least look at all the photos tonight
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Anglian Miniatures has not yet Abyssinians in their range ???
Piero
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Anglian Miniatures has not yet Abyssinians in their range ???
Piero
have a look here http://www.strategiaetattica.it/miniature_base.asp?tipologia=25mmcoloniale (http://www.strategiaetattica.it/miniature_base.asp?tipologia=25mmcoloniale)
they are the same size of foundry
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Hello all...this is my first post!
I think this is great enterprise for Nigel at Anglian. Having just had my first batch here in Oz from him for SCW I just know we're going to see quality products here. I'm hoping to use these figures with my Perry Sudan ones for a re-fight of the Victorian campaigns in Ethiopia against Emperor Tewodros in 1868. The Anglian and Perries blend really well with each other.
I'm not sure how much the equipment will have changed for the Ethiopians bar more accurate rifles between 1868 and the 1930's. Any thoughts anyone? ::)
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Here are a couple of pics from the forthcoming range:
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s266/HelenBachaus/81117777.jpg)
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s266/HelenBachaus/64592984.jpg)
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With what rifle are those lads armed? With a little squinting, they may work for 1896 as well, if not for the 1880s.
Allen
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With what rifle are those lads armed? With a little squinting, they may work for 1896 as well, if not for the 1880s.
Allen
Hard to tell but they look a little like Lee Metfords? would they have had access to british weapons? I may be wrong but I see a small magazine or clip
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They should be armed with a mixture of rifles,including Martini Henrys, Austrian Mannlichers, Mausers and Italian Carcasino(?) rifles.
Other two packs are Tribal leaders, and levy armed with spears and swords.
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They should be armed with a mixture of rifles,including Martini Henrys, Austrian Mannlichers, Mausers and Italian Carcasino(?) rifles.
Carcano. Goody! Not so much squinting required for 1896, then!
Other two packs are Tribal leaders, and levy armed with spears and swords.
Lovely. Sounds like between Anglian, Aksari, Castaway Arts, and Strategia e Tattica, it'll be possible to put together a nicely diverse Abyssinian force for Adowa, or with judicious squinting, for service against the Mahdi.
Allen
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They should be armed with a mixture of rifles,including Martini Henrys, Austrian Mannlichers, Mausers and Italian Carcasino(?) rifles.
Other two packs are Tribal leaders, and levy armed with spears and swords.
Italian Carcasino(?) Carcano :)
in 1880 they got an huge amount of Italian Vetterli rifles.
for the 1936 mostly Lee-Enfield and French...?? don't remember
Piero
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The story of the arming of Abyssinia involved gun-running on a massive scale.
The Abyssinians themselves kicked things of with a self-help project, capturing 12,000 or so Remingtons from the Egyptians in 1875-76 at Gungat and Gura (making the 500 Remingtons the Khedive had sent then-Ras Menilek to destabilize things look pretty meager). Then after the defeat of the Italians at Dogali in 1887, followed by the self-destruction of Yohannes against the Mahdists in 1889, most of the European powers were shipping modern weapons to the new Negus Negusti Menilek, despite the arms embargos in the Italian and Btritish ports at Massawa and Zeila, and despite German and Austrian prohibitions against export of weapons to Abyssinia.
The Tsar of All the Russias sent a personal envoy to deliver rifles and cash in 1891. Even the Italians supplied two million rounds (albeit of a different caliber than the rifles they had previously supplied) of rifle ammunition--just days befor Menilek repudiated his treaty with Italy in 1893. French and Russian advisors were training Menilek's army to use newly-supplied machine guns and Hotchkiss mountain guns just weeks before Adowa.
After Adowa, France initially offered 30,000 Gras rifles and a number of Lebel machine guns. They subsequently thought better of the machine guns, but provided 100,000 rifles and two million rounds of ammunition. And that only takes us up to 1897.
So Abyssinia (or more properly now, Ethiopia) had been well provided with a remarkable variety of arms even before 1900.
Allen
[Edited: too many typos!]
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I suggest to read Wilbulr Smith's "Cry Wolf" [one of my favourites] which has a setting of the invasion of Abyssinia [as Ethiopia was called then]. It is very inspiring.
I think that it can be used as a scenario for a campaign.
I only wich to have some special personality minis based on the characters of this book!
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Even the Italians supplied two million rounds (albeit of a different caliber than the rifles they had previously supplied) of rifle ammunition
Dodgy car boot dealers.............. lol