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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: Hammers on November 30, 2013, 09:44:15 AM
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Well, not necessarily 'cotton' but the kind fibre material one uses to mark fire or smoke on such things on the game board. Do we know of a purveyor of such materials?
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Kapok is the stuff you are looking for (used for stuffing toys, cushions etc). Youc an buy it in bags on Amazon etc.
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It is also used in some aquarium filters. Have a look at your local pet shop. I think it is simply called filter cotton.
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Great, but is there somewhere you can find black or dark grey such fibres?
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I use yarn. You get an effect similar to the flames of war fire and smoke. Here is my toot.
http://snitchythedog.blogspot.com/2011/11/smoke-no-not-that-kind.html (http://snitchythedog.blogspot.com/2011/11/smoke-no-not-that-kind.html)
Hope that helps.
Snitchy sends.
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That's not a shit idea, snitchy. I may just try that.
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Bullshott had a bag of black Kapok at BLAM. I meant to ask him where he acquired it. ::)
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Since is organic it seems to me like kapok should answer to dyeing very much like the cotton in jeans. One may have to degrease it first.
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I use both black wool (oil fires) and aquarium filter stuffing dusted with black spray.
That something is 'organic' absoluty does not mean that it takes dyes. For example polyvinyl chloride (PVC) is an organic substance... :)
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I use teddy bear stuffing that I hit with some black spray ..... And if you've got small kids then the stuffing is free (just don't tell the kids!)
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That something is 'organic' absoluty does not mean that it takes dyes. For example polyvinyl chloride (PVC) is an organic substance... :)
But it's been heavily manipulated though, yes?
cheers
James
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I use both black wool (oil fires) and aquarium filter stuffing dusted with black spray.
That something is 'organic' absoluty does not mean that it takes dyes. For example polyvinyl chloride (PVC) is an organic substance... :)
Oh, you effing know-it-all chemist... >:D I great part of kapok is cellulose, just like cotton, at least I know that much.
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But it's been heavily manipulated though, yes?
cheers
James
I think, being an organic chemist, I just made a ginormeous cock up. Hammers meant 'organic' as in 'natural', of course... I am sorry. I must get out more. o_o
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I think, being an organic chemist, I just made a ginormeous cock up. Hammers meant 'organic' as in 'natural', of course... I am sorry. I must get out more. o_o
lol No more beer for that man!
cheers
James
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Or perhaps more beer? :D
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I used kapok from on our dogs toys after he burst it. Much cheapness and no sick dog!
Grey in colour already, it works well as is for puff of gun smoke. Stuck to a base and tooted with a shot of black spray paint it works ok for, well, black smoke!
Flames of War used to do a multi coloured pack of smoke and flame which I am sure was made up of the same stuff. There was black orange and grey in it. But don't know how if was made as it was too expensive at the end of the day!
A tuft of steel wool might look better though as it takes the paint better and you can brush on yellow,red etc. the columns of black smoke and explosions seen in some pics on here and in the mags are made from Clump Foliage on wire frames painted to look like a burst.
For our 1/3000 naval games we use teased cotton bud tips dipped in PVA... I just thought...something similar might look good for large calibre MG/AA rounds in 28mm ???
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Have you had a look in the kids section of a hobby shop (Hobbycraft in the UK)?
They often have black pompoms made out of cotton wool that can be teased out to give flame/smoke shapes.
I thought Gale Force 9 made some smoke / flames for Battlefront Flames of War but they went plastic (and I prefer the Likto versions) but I did find these on the main US site http://www.flamesofwar.com/Default.aspx?tabid=117&ProductID=2863
(http://www.flamesofwar.com/DesktopModules/Store/Thumbnail.aspx?IP=~/Portals/0/all_images/markers-dice/XX601c.jpg)
I expect the bags to be different in mix though :D
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Kapok is an organic fiber and seems to me a bit less realistic for making smoke than polyester batting.
The polyester fiber using for batting is variously called Polyfil/Polyfill/Fiberfil in the U.S. at least (this may help you google it). I was lucky enough to lay hands on several quite large bags of the dark brown variety some years ago. Since the material is a dark burnt umber to start out with it's much easier to spray it black (for smoke markers) than with the white fiber.