Lead Adventure Forum

Miniatures Adventure => Post-Apocalyptic Tales => Topic started by: Marauderman on December 09, 2013, 10:03:07 AM

Title: [KICKSTARTER] 3D Forge Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Marauderman on December 09, 2013, 10:03:07 AM
Hi, 3D Miniatures has a new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter starting, called Zombie Miniatures, Survivors, Barricades and Walls in 28mm.
The link to Kickstater is
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1934394318/zombie-miniaturessurvivors-barricades-and-walls-in
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Dr. Zombie on December 09, 2013, 12:00:32 PM
looks promising. I would however like to see some actual prototypes and not just renders.
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: zizi666 on December 09, 2013, 04:09:40 PM
looks promising. I would however like to see some actual prototypes and not just renders.
Same here. Specialy after the Sedition Wars & Dark, Darker, Darkest disappointements  :(
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Commander Vyper on December 09, 2013, 10:30:42 PM
I'm in on scenery.  Let's see how the rest pans out.
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Andrew May on December 10, 2013, 08:50:38 PM
Prints/casts would be nice.
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Centaur_Seducer on December 10, 2013, 09:34:14 PM
I want to support, but I'm waiting for the pics of real casts :)
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Too Bo Coo on December 11, 2013, 01:27:12 PM
I want to support, but I'm waiting for the pics of real casts :)

Ditto
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Centaur_Seducer on December 17, 2013, 01:26:27 PM
How I wish that there were actual sculpters involved in a project sometimes. Some updates of yet more renders. How very unexciting.
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Commander Vyper on December 20, 2013, 06:54:54 PM
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/461/015/aa21df117e901ab70fd43236a47bae35_large.jpg?1387553104)

This wilk be nice.  :D
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Wyrmalla on December 20, 2013, 08:39:16 PM
I wasn't of the opinion that a 3D printer was capable of producing miniatures of that detail. I mean of those that I've seen the details have been really lacking, with little definition of things like faces, etc, along with them having a rough texture due to miniatures being too small for conventional printers. So unless this company has printers in advance of what the others trying to do this have, I think that those digital sculpts shown are in excess of what the end product will be. Resin would be a much more suitable material to create those designs out of, and its been shown that it can be done cheaply too, as is the case with Reaper's Bones kickstarter. So, whilst promising, the market's already saturated with zombies (ooh zombie nun!), without a genuine finished product I don't see myself being too excited over this. =/
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Commander Vyper on December 20, 2013, 10:08:15 PM
You're happy all day aren't you?  ::)

Completely disagree,  I'd suggest you take a wider view of digital end products of other companies bud, prodos and the avp project for example.

I would like resin too but anyway your call and naturally it's down to all to make their own  informed choices.
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Barbarian on December 20, 2013, 11:23:36 PM
Who are they ? I mean the people behind this project.
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: CptJake on December 21, 2013, 02:05:45 PM


Completely disagree,  I'd suggest you take a wider view of digital end products of other companies bud, prodos and the avp project for example.

I would like resin too but anyway your call and naturally it's down to all to make their own  informed choices.

I don't think Prodos has any AvP 'end products' yet.   And they may be digitally designed, but they are going to be eventually made in resin.   
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Commander Vyper on December 21, 2013, 03:59:06 PM
I don't think Prodos has any AvP 'end products' yet.   And they may be digitally designed, but they are going to be eventually made in resin.   

I'm referring to the current quality of digital printing query.
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Wyrmalla on December 21, 2013, 04:49:28 PM
Oh I'm open to be disagreed with, and the market changes rapidly, to my knowledge though, limited as it is, I haven't seen any decent 3D printed miniatures that match the quality of those presented in the digital sculpts. So post some pictures of models that meet that standard and I won't feel so questionable about this particular kickstarter. ^^

Tone is ever so difficult to set anyhow. Read everything I write in a giddy meandering voice. Fibble.
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: 1967er on December 21, 2013, 07:25:41 PM
I would say, the figures from ANT miniatures and Northstarmodels are digitally designed and printed (at some places I found relicts from the printing-steps (sorry, I don't know a better word for that).
They are nearly perfect - but these are 54mm-figures.

In 28mm scale maybe the figures from Raging Heroes?
I have seen a master at Spiel in Essen 2013 , and that figure looked perfect (at least without my reading glasses)  

Cheers
Thomas
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: robh on December 22, 2013, 10:22:38 PM
The 3DForge guys have posted some pictures of the first run figures with their own critique and thoughts.
Have to say they look really really good;

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1934394318/zombie-miniaturessurvivors-barricades-and-walls-in/posts/702334 (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1934394318/zombie-miniaturessurvivors-barricades-and-walls-in/posts/702334)

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/466/520/f18a3a2f12611152d21d8373a80ae3dd_large.jpg?1387748742)

As they say these are 3d sculpted, then hand cleaned and refined then made into master castings for use with traditional centrifugal white metal casting.

The little dog shows the end result casting as well as the original 3D sculpt (it is from a different project and cast in silver)
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Dr. Zombie on December 23, 2013, 08:45:29 AM
Looks nice. I think I might go for the scenery.
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: robh on January 03, 2014, 11:12:46 AM
A great new set of "Street furniture" has been added, 28 including worldwide shipping:

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/491/587/ce13316c9f760f6fcfb78759b80f62df_large.jpg?1388740773)

Resin pieces with possibility of white metal accessories. Also for those so inclined the UK style traditional red Phonebox and Mailbox can be added to the set.

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/491/590/e28fc5a6d08d9716c9741ec4de8f737e_large.jpg?1388740837)

Loads of uses for the scenics from this KS even if (like me) you aren't interested in  Zombie Apocalypse gaming.
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Mason on January 03, 2014, 11:21:01 AM
Loads of uses for the scenics from this KS even if (like me) you aren't interested in  Zombie Apocalypse gaming.

You are right about that, Rob.
I dont really have any need for recently dead fellas but the scenery is tempting me....

Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: aliensurfer on January 03, 2014, 12:26:55 PM
You are right about that, Rob.
I dont really have any need for recently dead fellas but the scenery is tempting me....



that, and those wrecked cars could be useful.
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: sundayhero on January 03, 2014, 12:35:35 PM
Scenery can be used for super heroes gaming with no doubt ;)
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Too Bo Coo on January 03, 2014, 11:39:36 PM
Sorry, are these 28s or 54s?
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Slayer on January 04, 2014, 04:59:22 AM
28
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: robh on January 04, 2014, 11:34:43 AM
You are right about that, Rob.
I dont really have any need for recently dead fellas but the scenery is tempting me....

Actually I need the recently dead fellas, but laying on the ground where they belong, not up and stumbling around! Corpses are important in the Spinespur rules and figures look much better on the table than tokens/markers.

The scenery really is the standout part of this KS and the combination of price of the single basic sets and the already passed stretch goals makes it a "buy 1 get 1 free" for scenery already between 1/3 and 1/2 off retail price. Amazing deal.

Also if you get the chance take a look around the website of the project owner Alan Dickinson: he is a superb artist and designer. (link on the KS page)

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1934394318/zombie-miniaturessurvivors-barricades-and-walls-in (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1934394318/zombie-miniaturessurvivors-barricades-and-walls-in)
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Argonor on January 05, 2014, 09:13:03 PM
Hmmm... could see some use for this....
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: robh on January 07, 2014, 01:10:07 PM
CORPSES!!!!!


Last 3 days of this amazing KS and the Dead bodies/corpse pack has been announced:

9 including shipping gets you 1 legless zombie, 2 rotting corpses and 2 recently deceased corpses, single piece castings in white metal:

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/503/293/6a56d4e7a9c8b29a3322a2460775433d_large.jpg?1389096169)

Also available now 6 Zombie Dogs: 4 rotting dogs, (2 Doberman 2 Rottweiler), again white metal castings:

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/503/288/011f2f767196e8c3f0ffbd0936766646_large.jpg?1389096028)

Plus an extra set of each free via the stretch goals depending on total pledges.

Street Furniture, skips, walls, zombie kids, wrecked cars, barrels, corpses pretty much everything you need for Post Apoc scenery in one place and at a huge discount on the retail prices after the KS, and Zombies, some really cool zombies.
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: robh on January 15, 2014, 06:30:09 PM
Project cancelled after monies taken

This project has been cancelled this evening. Apparently due to an unexpected death in the close family.
Last update says pledges will be refunded.  But there seems to be no way to leave comments or questions about refunds on the campaign which I reckon is a flaw in the KS programming.  :-[

Have to wait and see. If anyone here who backed it gets a refund please leave a comment so we can see it really is happening.
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Centaur_Seducer on January 15, 2014, 06:48:20 PM
Bloody awful news :(
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: nic-e on January 15, 2014, 06:53:57 PM
Oh I'm open to be disagreed with, and the market changes rapidly, to my knowledge though, limited as it is, I haven't seen any decent 3D printed miniatures that match the quality of those presented in the digital sculpts. So post some pictures of models that meet that standard and I won't feel so questionable about this particular kickstarter. ^^

Tone is ever so difficult to set anyhow. Read everything I write in a giddy meandering voice. Fibble.

Warzone resurrection, toughest girls in the galaxy ect.alot of antenocitis workshops stuff is cast from a 3d printed master.honestly a large percentage of the miniature companies that have popped up in the last 5 years are using this method over traditional master sculpting.
Sculpted digitally and printed with a wax 3d printer to create a master.
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: CptJake on January 16, 2014, 10:32:35 AM


Have to wait and see. If anyone here who backed it gets a refund please leave a comment so we can see it really is happening.

I got a note back from KickStarter after I submitted an inquiry.   They say all refunds went out yesterday.   My credit card does not show a pending transaction yet though, let alone a processed refund.   KS said it can take 'a few days'.  I've never seen that with my bank but I'll give them a couple of days.
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: FATROC on January 16, 2014, 05:31:50 PM
I received a similar response from Kickstarter. Still no refund.  :(
Title: Re: 3D Forge Miniatures new Zombie Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: ryoden on January 16, 2014, 06:24:26 PM
Yeah I got the same, they said to contact them in two working days if therefund had not shown up so I will give them until Monday morning.
Title: Re: (COMMERCIAL) 3D Forge Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: FATROC on January 17, 2014, 05:01:50 AM
Just received my refund. It was a couple of dollars short. I guess the exchange rate has changed since they took the money out of my account.  :(
Title: Re: (COMMERCIAL) 3D Forge Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Centaur_Seducer on January 17, 2014, 06:49:21 AM
Still no refund, or signs of an incoming one :( I just presume that it will be a couple of money short due to exchange rates and those "must-add" administration fees.
Title: Re: (COMMERCIAL) 3D Forge Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Argonor on January 17, 2014, 09:36:10 AM
Still no refund, or signs of an incoming one :( I just presume that it will be a couple of money short due to exchange rates and those "must-add" administration fees.

I wasn't in on this one, but I really don't think it's OK if backers don't get their full amount refunded; when/if a person/company decides to cancel a project, all fees should be covered by him/she/it. You, as backers. have no responsibilithy for the project being cancelled, thus you should not carry any risk.

If the shortage is only due to exchange rates, there's nothing much to say to it, but I would go check the development of the relevant exchange rate, anyway.
Title: Re: (COMMERCIAL) 3D Forge Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: ryoden on January 17, 2014, 03:25:00 PM
Hmm its certainly made me think that I wont be bothering with any more kickstarters.
Title: Re: (COMMERCIAL) 3D Forge Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: grant on January 17, 2014, 03:36:22 PM
Hmm its certainly made me think that I wont be bothering with any more kickstarters.

I agree - there have been some serious stinkers with KS lately. I have never done one, honestly, but I am glad I avoided the frenzy!
Title: Re: (COMMERCIAL) 3D Forge Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: ryoden on January 18, 2014, 10:23:36 AM
Ok well I actually got the full 77 that I invested but i guess thats because it was a UK company so no conversion charges. 
Title: Re: (COMMERCIAL) 3D Forge Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: robh on January 18, 2014, 10:54:33 AM
Glad to hear they are coming through, still waiting any information on mine though. Not showing as pending on my account yet.
Title: Re: (COMMERCIAL) 3D Forge Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: CptJake on January 18, 2014, 02:46:48 PM
My refund finally hit.   I'm short just under 2 bucks due to the change in exchange rate.   Obviously 2 bucks isn't going to break me, but it does suck that I have to eat it.   

"Thanks for funding my project, sorry I won't be able to deliver, here is most of your money back."
Title: Re: (COMMERCIAL) 3D Forge Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: nic-e on January 18, 2014, 09:43:42 PM
I agree - there have been some serious stinkers with KS lately. I have never done one, honestly, but I am glad I avoided the frenzy!

I think kickstarter is great, but the issue at the moment is that first the small ptomaines got big funding with well planned games years in the making,so the big companies moved in and got even bigger funding for single box games that they probably had planned for retail release anyway, and now a new crop of smaller companies have popped up with half planned kickstarters trying to catch the end of the frenzy without any real plans beyond "here's an idea,here's what we think it'll cost."
Hopefully it'll pass and we can go back to a handful of well planned personal projects that might not deliver straight away or have huge stretch goals but are at least well planned and achievable for a small company..
Title: Re: (COMMERCIAL) 3D Forge Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Too Bo Coo on January 18, 2014, 11:38:49 PM
I looked this over a few times, and was very tempted to go for some of the terrain, but in the end I had the same concerns over concept to shipped product, and so far the track record of this design method hasnt been up to my tastes..
Title: Re: (COMMERCIAL) 3D Forge Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: robh on January 21, 2014, 07:29:06 PM
Got my refund through today, lost about 1 on the currency variance to euros, so a little less than 1%.
Also got an email/backer message from 3DF offering to let backers know in advance when the kickstarter campaign will be re-launched. Guess time will tell if they have lost backer support/trust with the way the last one ended.
Title: Re: (COMMERCIAL) 3D Forge Miniatures Kickstarter
Post by: Centaur_Seducer on January 21, 2014, 08:43:03 PM
Got my refund through today, lost about 1 on the currency variance to euros, so a little less than 1%.
Also got an email/backer message from 3DF offering to let backers know in advance when the kickstarter campaign will be re-launched. Guess time will tell if they have lost backer support/trust with the way the last one ended.
Honestly, yes. While the project failed due to unforseen circumstances, they were very honest with the reasons and were quick to refund. I respect that immensly and will support the next attempt :) Transparency in these failed and muddy ks times are rare indeed.