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Title: Fictional countries
Post by: Gallowglass on June 02, 2008, 03:02:14 PM
Was just wondering how many of you have made your own fictional countries for gaming, and if you'd care to tell us a little bit about them and/or what inspired you to create them?

(I've put this in the "Pulp" section, but to be honest, it could probably have gone almost anywhere).
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Vanvlak on June 02, 2008, 04:09:30 PM
Besides Malta (which ia practically fictional...  ;D) I usually include the 2nd Republic of [wiki]Venice[/wiki] (1848-present). I've never added much detail to it, for the simple reason that I've been a bit overworked recently (i.e. past 5 years) and have had little time to stop and think about it. But it's basically a reinstatement of an independent republic which started in [wiki]1848[/wiki], the year of revolutions, when the Venetians successfully drove out the Austrians and created an independent Republic including the [wiki]Veneto[/wiki], and led by the Council of Ten. It was an ally of the Knights of Malta between 1885 and 1905, and survived the upheavals of both World Wars, siding with the Italians, Britain and France against the Central Powers in WWI and maintaining a policy of neutrality in WWII until it was embroiled in a series of unpleasant events with both Germany and the USSR late in the War. It is evident however that Venice covertly supported Italian partisans as from September 1943, and was instrumental to the survival  of the Squadra K-Forzuti after their first mission.
Surviving WWII in good condition compared to its neighbours, the Republic was instrumental in the rebuilding of Italy, which remains its close ally to date. The Republic refused to NATO or the Warsaw Pact. Although it is currently close to the European Union, it is not a member state. It ranks 14th in GDP, a remarkable achievement considering its size, and an excellent 6th in Quality-of-life index. All is not rosy, however, and the aging population of the capital combined with a gradual exodus to the towns of the Veneto has seen the city in crisis. The current President of the Council, Giuseppe Bonaventura, has put in motion an ambitious plan to defeat the Aqua alta problem and revitalise the city, but his plans are being hindered by the Commedia, a group of masked characters with ambiguous intentions.....
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Arlequín on June 02, 2008, 04:47:53 PM
I've been toying with the idea myself for a Spanish Civil War type scenario that would allow me to add more unusual troops and vehicles. It is a pretty common artifice in 1930's books and films... 'Duck Soup' springs immediately to mind for some reason, but 'Prisoner of Zenda' is another.

I was thinking along the lines of the 'Republicans' getting more support from Britain and France to offset Soviet influence and Germany taking a more active role. So it would end up being WW2 by proxy, but using equipment of the mid-30's... Vickers Medium Tanks, WW1 Pattern uniforms for the British, as an example.

Depth depends on the type of game you play, or the energy you want to put into it. I used to play 'AK47 Republic' which allows you to flesh out the fluff for your chosen faction for scenarios etc, but some players really add to this, as a google search will show you.
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: fastolfrus on June 02, 2008, 07:03:55 PM
Zenda/Ruritania for VSF (and SYW).
Basically German but without the hindrance of a historical OOB, so if I see an interesting looking unit I can add it in and justify it later.


Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Overlord on June 02, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
Wambango: Taken from the Swahili "Wa-mbango" meaning "warthog people"

For AK47 and Darkest Africa (same country, different centuries)

No real background or specific history, just a place deep in the dark heart of Africa.
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Plynkes on June 02, 2008, 09:04:10 PM
My 'Great War in Africa' games are set in German Central Africa, which never existed outside of C.S. Forester.

I wanted to do Tanganyika, but fictionalising it allowed me to be lazy enough not to get the details right, and carry on with events that didn't happen historically too. Despite it being an excuse not to bother with correct details, the OOB for the main confrontation ended up being true to Forester. But our battle went the Germans' way. So then Biggles and some Belgians got involved in a second action.

Things have carried on in this vein, with the Cocos Islands becoming the Coconut Islands, which were raided by my version of the Emden, an armed merchantmen turned commerce-raider called the Elke.
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Hammers on June 02, 2008, 09:23:07 PM
I don't feature a fictional country (yet) but a town. Monimasket is a Scottish east coast village taken from James Robertson's 'The Testament of Gideon Mack', a novel which has lodged itself firmly in my mind. In the fluff I write the town has grown roughly in size with Aberdeen, perhaps larger in some aspects. In some ways it mirrors Arkham, in others Edinburgh, Glasgow or even gentle south English towns like Hastings. So far it sports and asylum, an university, an ugly late 19th century castle (home of the Duke of Nutherland Kennel Club), several ruins of which one is at least from roman times, a shipyard and various experimental navy installations and a common.
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Geudens on June 02, 2008, 09:49:14 PM
Afriboria is my creation:

http://www.rudi-geudens.be/html/afriboria.htm

http://www.tsoa.be/html/titelblad_uk_afriboria.html

Rudi
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: lethallee61 on June 03, 2008, 12:38:25 AM
Certainly - my Darkest Africa setting is all self-created.

Unfortunately, it's so politically incorrect (imagine Benny Hill meets Carry On meets The Goodies), I can't mention any of the names here... ;)
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Arlequín on June 03, 2008, 01:40:32 AM
Afriboria is my creation:

http://www.rudi-geudens.be/html/afriboria.htm

http://www.tsoa.be/html/titelblad_uk_afriboria.html

Rudi

Rudi that's quite impressive, something for us all to aspire too, well done!  :D
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: flooglestreet on June 03, 2008, 03:06:13 AM
Ive had an idea much like Jim Hales, but I never really pursued it. I would look into Peter Pigs RFCM Spanish Civil War rules.
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: warrenpeace on June 03, 2008, 03:49:33 AM
Duchy of Potzdorf (or is it Potsdorff???).  The name is from an old movie, a comedy, though I didn't recognize it the first time one of our game group set a Napoleonic scenario there.  We've also fought War of Spanish Succession, 1864, and WW2 battles over Potzdorf.  I should stage a Seven Years War battle over the place.  What's to fight over?  Beer!!!  Potzdorf is fictionally famous in our games as the location of a brewry that produces magnificent dark beer made from smoked barley.  So our battles are always about the beer.  And of course we drink while playing!  Our fictional Potzdorf is located somewhere in West Germany, not out in East Prussia (now in Poland?) where there is, or was, an actual Potsdorff.

I've thrown out the idea of having a series of games showing Potzdorf through the ages from caveman days, when the cavemen discover a primitive beer, up until WW2.  We could use the same map layout, just altering the terrain features through time.  But so far nobody wants to join me in this idea.
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Geudens on June 03, 2008, 07:53:04 AM
Afriboria is my creation:
http://www.rudi-geudens.be/html/afriboria.htm
http://www.tsoa.be/html/titelblad_uk_afriboria.html
Rudi
Rudi that's quite impressive, something for us all to aspire too, well done!  :D

Thank you very much.  Unfortunately things in Afriboria are on a halt right now, due to circumstances, but the campaign will rise again.

Rudi
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: oxiana on June 03, 2008, 09:35:08 AM
Quote
I've been toying with the idea myself for a Spanish Civil War type scenario that would allow me to add more unusual troops and vehicles. It is a pretty common artifice in 1930's books and films... 'Duck Soup' springs immediately to mind for some reason, but 'Prisoner of Zenda' is another.

Duck Soup, yes! The Marx Brothers' (and possibly civilization's) highest achievement! The film even leaves coded instructions on what minis to collect for gaming:

Groucho: Now that you're Secretary of War, what kind of an army do you think we ought to have?
Chico: Well, I tell you what I think, I think we should have a standing army.
Groucho: Why should we have a standing army?
Chico: Because then we save money on chairs.
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Arlequín on June 03, 2008, 10:28:00 AM
Quote
I've been toying with the idea myself for a Spanish Civil War type scenario that would allow me to add more unusual troops and vehicles. It is a pretty common artifice in 1930's books and films... 'Duck Soup' springs immediately to mind for some reason, but 'Prisoner of Zenda' is another.

Duck Soup, yes! The Marx Brothers' (and possibly civilization's) highest achievement! The film even leaves coded instructions on what minis to collect for gaming:

Groucho: Now that you're Secretary of War, what kind of an army do you think we ought to have?
Chico: Well, I tell you what I think, I think we should have a standing army.
Groucho: Why should we have a standing army?
Chico: Because then we save money on chairs.

I quite liked the war sequence where each shot of Groucho shows him in a totally different uniform than the one before  lol

"Remember, you're fighting for this woman's honour, which is probably more than she ever did."
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Gallowglass on June 03, 2008, 01:27:49 PM
Afriboria is my creation:

http://www.rudi-geudens.be/html/afriboria.htm

http://www.tsoa.be/html/titelblad_uk_afriboria.html

Rudi

Wow  :o

That's seriously impressive.  :o

I've been working on a Balkan-esque state called Sebrovia (I think the name stuck in my head after reading an article in Wargames Illustrated). I wanted to be able to use it for Gothic horror, Pulp and for Great War, WW2 and maybe even moderns

I haven't figured out where to "put" it yet, geographically speaking. I like having a German/ Austro-Hungarian influence in games á la Zenda/ Ruritania etc, but I thought it might be interesting to have a fair bit of Italian involvement as well. It's obviously going to have bits and pieces ripped off from Rumania, the former Yugoslavia as well.

It's beginning to take on a life of its own actually - I haven't put this much into a "setting" since playing/running AD&D regularly years ago. Good fun, though. ;)
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: BaronVonJ on June 03, 2008, 01:54:45 PM
Fictional countries are my favorite. It's much easier when running games to have them take place somewhere made up. If I'm running a early 19th century game in my favorite country Unkerlant, and someone points out a discrepancy in Napoleon tactics, I remind them that isn't Napoleonic Europe, but a isolated country in Eastern Europe.
For VSF, Zimdar: http://essjam.home.comcast.net/~essjam/
For 18th/19th Century, Unkerlant: http://baronvonj.blogspot.com/search/label/Unkerlant
(which I'll be starting the campaign for soon)
I always liked the alternate Europe of the comic Arrowsmith: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrowsmith_%28comics%29
Then, I've been running a medieval mapless campaign for a place simply known as "the Kingdom" http://baronvonj.blogspot.com/search/label/Campaign
-J
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Geudens on June 03, 2008, 02:39:32 PM
Afriboria is my creation:
http://www.rudi-geudens.be/html/afriboria.htm
http://www.tsoa.be/html/titelblad_uk_afriboria.html
Rudi
Wow  :o
That's seriously impressive.  :o
I've been working on a Balkan-esque state called Sebrovia (I think the name stuck in my head after reading an article in Wargames Illustrated).

The trick I use is a very "general" map (as you can see on my site).  Apart from very general features (mountains, coastline, jungle, main cities), I can then still lay out the terrain for my scenarios as I want.  Too much detail and this freedom of design is gone...

Rudi
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Doomhippie on June 03, 2008, 09:21:14 PM
Well, a cousin of mine and me invented basically a whole new world. Only it wasn't really new as it was more a parody of the real world, mixing different times from between 1900-1950 or so. So rather than the United Kingdom we had something called King-George-Land. Guess what Kilt County stood for. An exotic state called Chewbacca (yes, just like him), famous for tabacco (especially chewing tabacco), an Austrian-like monarchy called Dunderreich with the capital Dunderstruck (which was named after the ACDC song Thunderstruck) and all kinds of different other countries (most of them not quite politically correct). I've talked about the weirder pseudo-Russian names in some post (can't remember which one...). Basically we designed that world to play all our favourite wargaming fantasies on. In the course of that we became more and more obsessed with the coming up of some kind of history and cultural backgrounds. My cousin really went over the top when he drew a very detailed citymap of his favourite capital about 2X2 meters big. And when he added streetlamps in glow-in-the-dark colors I was about to have hom locked away. Still I wouldn't want to miss that.
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Arlequín on June 04, 2008, 12:24:48 AM
I quite like the ideas coming out here. The advantage of it all is that you can run 'your world' across several periods in some cases, the earlier periods providing context and history for the later ones.

The real world can be a touch restrictive and most conflicts either don't give you everything you want or are on too grand a scale for your needs.

I quite like Rudi's approach of using a general map. Each game you play then fills a bit of it in and your country is fleshed out as you play.
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Poiter50 on June 04, 2008, 04:02:58 AM
Rudi, I had glimpsed your site before but hadn't bookmarked it. The site of a very fertile imagination, congrats!!

Afriboria is my creation:

http://www.rudi-geudens.be/html/afriboria.htm

http://www.tsoa.be/html/titelblad_uk_afriboria.html

Rudi
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on June 05, 2008, 12:27:51 PM
.... an Austrian-like monarchy called Dunderreich with the capital Dunderstruck (which was named after the ACDC song Thunderstruck)

Yaaaaaay! Love it  lol

The "Society of Daisy YahooGroup is big on fictional countries and has loads of great inspiration for creating your own:

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/SOCDAISY/

Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: commissarmoody on June 05, 2008, 01:13:26 PM
What is this "society of Daisy you speak of?
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on June 05, 2008, 01:34:21 PM
What is this "society of Daisy you speak of?

It's a Yahoo Group that specializes in humorous, fictional games, involving "chocolate box" armies set in imaginary countries with plenty of bad puns  :)

Mostly 18thC, but the ideas are valid for any era, if you like some silliness in your gaming. There are several members who have their own 19thC set-ups.
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: twrchtrwyth on June 05, 2008, 02:22:27 PM
.... an Austrian-like monarchy called Dunderreich with the capital Dunderstruck (which was named after the ACDC song Thunderstruck)

Yaaaaaay! Love it  lol

The "Society of Daisy YahooGroup is big on fictional countries and has loads of great inspiration for creating your own:

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/SOCDAISY/


So your a friend of Daisy? Does that mean the same as being a friend of Dorothy? :-I ;)
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Arlequín on June 05, 2008, 07:27:19 PM
.... an Austrian-like monarchy called Dunderreich with the capital Dunderstruck (which was named after the ACDC song Thunderstruck)

Yaaaaaay! Love it  lol

The "Society of Daisy YahooGroup is big on fictional countries and has loads of great inspiration for creating your own:

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/SOCDAISY/


So your a friend of Daisy? Does that mean the same as being a friend of Dorothy? :-I ;)

Hmmm.... so asks the guy with the 'tin man' avatar ... oh sorry, it's a cyber man  ;)

Mind you 'Brideshead Revisited' was influential in my interest in WW2  :?

Interesting Fact No. 5004 -

In the early 1980s, the Naval Investigative Service was investigating homosexuality in the Chicago area. Agents discovered that gay men sometimes referred to themselves as "friends of Dorothy." Unaware of the historical meaning of the term, the NIS believed that a woman named Dorothy was at the center of a massive ring of homosexual military personnel. The NIS launched an enormous hunt for Dorothy, hoping to find her and convince her to reveal the names of gay servicemembers.

Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Doomhippie on June 05, 2008, 08:06:50 PM
Well, of course there are also the FOC (Friends of Carlotta)...  lol
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Arlequín on June 05, 2008, 09:58:48 PM
Well, of course there are also the FOC (Friends of Carlotta)...  lol

mhmm reduced to name-dropping obscure techno bands huh?  :D
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: V on June 05, 2008, 11:04:09 PM
Gallowglass,

Im offended you didnt remember our special forces mission deep inside Khazistan - The Toilet of the Middle East.

I have several fictional nations... All featuring in a moderns campaign at my club.

http://www.newbridgegaming.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=985
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Red Ed on June 06, 2008, 03:00:44 AM
I've been toying with the idea myself for a Spanish Civil War type scenario that would allow me to add more unusual troops and vehicles. It is a pretty common artifice in 1930's books and films... 'Duck Soup' springs immediately to mind for some reason, but 'Prisoner of Zenda' is another.

Well there is Andorra up there in the Pyrenees.  Or, you could always do an alt history thing where the Basques and/or Catalonia declare independence from the central government in Madrid.  Come to think of it didn't something like that happen in Asturias shortly before it was overrun by the Nationalists? What if they had done it early on...

Duck Soup, yes! The Marx Brothers' (and possibly civilization's) highest achievement! The film even leaves coded instructions on what minis to collect for gaming:

Groucho: Now that you're Secretary of War, what kind of an army do you think we ought to have?
Chico: Well, I tell you what I think, I think we should have a standing army.
Groucho: Why should we have a standing army?
Chico: Because then we save money on chairs.

Would this be your standing army?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d7/Duck_Soup.jpg/200px-Duck_Soup.jpg)

Now where can we get the figures?

I quite liked the war sequence where each shot of Groucho shows him in a totally different uniform than the one before  lol

Rufus T Firefly - a sartorially notable model of leadership.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/79/Duck_Soup_Groucho_and_generals.jpg/225px-Duck_Soup_Groucho_and_generals.jpg)

"And remember, while you're out there risking life and limb through shot and shell, we'll be in here thinking what a sucker you are."

Along with "Freedonia" and "Slyvannia" from Duck Soup, another made up country from the world of film is "The Grand Duchy of Fenwick" in The Mouse that Roared.

Personally though, my favorite name for a made up country comes from Joseph Conrad's novel Nostromo where the dramatic action takes place in the fictional country of "Costaguana" ("The Bird-sh*t Coast" for those who slept through Spanish 101).

Ed
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Doomhippie on June 06, 2008, 09:07:43 AM
Well, now, how about Quflad-al-Quh, which is sounds a lot like the German version of "Droppings of a Cow". Another country my cousin came up with and is of course an Arabic state full of intrigue and warlords...
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Arlequín on June 06, 2008, 10:13:37 AM

Along with "Freedonia" and "Slyvannia" from Duck Soup, another made up country from the world of film is "The Grand Duchy of Fenwick" in The Mouse that Roared.

Personally though, my favorite name for a made up country comes from Joseph Conrad's novel Nostromo where the dramatic action takes place in the fictional country of "Costaguana" ("The Bird-sh*t Coast" for those who slept through Spanish 101).

Ed

I'd forgotten Fenwick, what an excellent film  :D There is also 'Passport to Pimlico'  lol

I tend to be semi-serious when I plan stuff like this though and the end result is halfway to becoming a demographic report.

'Nostromo' looks like a good book, I must try it. I read 'In the Heart of Darkness' and somehow missed that one.

Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on June 06, 2008, 10:30:48 AM

Along with "Freedonia" and "Slyvannia" from Duck Soup, another made up country from the world of film is "The Grand Duchy of Fenwick" in The Mouse that Roared.

Personally though, my favorite name for a made up country comes from Joseph Conrad's novel Nostromo where the dramatic action takes place in the fictional country of "Costaguana" ("The Bird-sh*t Coast" for those who slept through Spanish 101).

Ed

I'd forgotten Fenwick, what an excellent film  :D There is also 'Passport to Pimlico'  lol

I tend to be semi-serious when I plan stuff like this though and the end result is halfway to becoming a demographic report.

'Nostromo' looks like a good book, I must try it. I read 'In the Heart of Darkness' and somehow missed that one.



Whilst I loved "Heart Of Darkness" and read it in a couple of sittings, so far I have really struggled to get into "Nostromo"  :(
I've heard others say it's a "difficult" book, so I hope you have more success than I did. I may try again soon.

"Costaguano" is a fantastic name for a fictional third-world country and I'm sure I can incorporate it into my Darkest Africa gaming. Somehow it sums up a whole nation in just one word.  lol

Maybe I'll try and translate it into French or German, as that would fit better.
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on June 06, 2008, 10:33:38 AM
There is also 'Passport to Pimlico'   lol

Pimlico is a real place,  in London, BTW, but sounds like a great name for a fictional country  lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimlico
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Arlequín on June 06, 2008, 06:16:23 PM
There is also 'Passport to Pimlico'   lol

Pimlico is a real place,  in London, BTW, but sounds like a great name for a fictional country  lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimlico

Passport to Pimlico is a late 40's film iirc. An unexploded bomb is set off by some children and reveals documents that show the area of Pimlico was given to Charles the Bold and that Pimlico is therefore the last remnant of the Duchy Of Burgundy and not part of England.

Google it for the whole plot, but it is English satire at its best.

Classic Quotes:-

from Pimlico's only Police Constable on reading the charter "Blimey, I'm a foreigner!"

from an English soldier guarding the 'border' to a woman trapped by the blockade "serves you right for shopping abroad".
 
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on June 07, 2008, 01:32:01 AM

Passport to Pimlico is a late 40's film iirc. An unexploded bomb is set off by some children and reveals documents that show the area of Pimlico was given to Charles the Bold and that Pimlico is therefore the last remnant of the Duchy Of Burgundy and not part of England.

Google it for the whole plot, but it is English satire at its best.

Classic Quotes:-

from Pimlico's only Police Constable on reading the charter "Blimey, I'm a foreigner!"

from an English soldier guarding the 'border' to a woman trapped by the blockade "serves you right for shopping abroad".
 

Ah, I see!
Sorry, I hadn't heard of that film before. Sounds like it would be right up my street, though  ;)

I'll keep a lookout for it on the satellite tv channels.
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Red Ed on June 07, 2008, 07:43:46 AM
Passport to Pimlico is a late 40's film iirc. An unexploded bomb is set off by some children and reveals documents that show the area of Pimlico was given to Charles the Bold and that Pimlico is therefore the last remnant of the Duchy Of Burgundy and not part of England.

Google it for the whole plot, but it is English satire at its best.

Sounds like a hoot, I'll have to seek it out.

A couple more fictional countries from movies are "Paradore" from Moon Over Paradore (a must see on my list) and "Syriana" from the George Clooney film of the same name.

From another medium, the internet, one that has had me laughing ever since I read in a geography journal about its existence and about the role it has played in the conflict between Pope John Paul II and Bishop Jacques Gaillot, France's pesky "Red Cleric" is "Partenia."

For background here is a story from the NY Times: Link Here (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F01E2D61631F934A15753C1A961958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all)

Here is Partenia's website: Link Here (http://www.partenia.org/index.htm)

And here is an interview with the Bishop of Partenia: Link Here (http://gvanv.com/compass/arch/v1404/gaillot.html)

Cheer's

Ed
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Arlequín on June 08, 2008, 12:51:56 PM
I took the plunge and put some thought into the idea of a 'fictional country'.

I found a map of Haiti/Dominican Republic (Hispaniola) which was quite colourful and was devoid of towns, roads etc and used that as my base. Geographical information was readily available, so I took that pretty much as it was from Wikipedia.

The Caribbean was not the best location for my needs, so I re-located my island to the East Coast of Africa. Much to the surprise of the natives lol  I didnt need to locate it exactly as I don't intend making it part of the bigger picture of the region, the knowledge that it is there somewhere was sufficient.

As a rough timeline, the island was home to an indigenous population. Arab traders/slavers established posts there. The Spanish 'discovered' it in the early 16th Century. Successive centuries saw the Dutch colonise part of it along with the French. The English took over the Dutch colony. So by the 19th Century we have a large Spanish colony, a French colony, an independant Arab state and an English Colony. The Arabs suffered the loss of some territory to Italy towards the end of the 19th Century.

So the stage is pretty much set for the 20th century... A civil war in the former Spanish colony, Italian invasion of the 'Arab' interior, followed by invasion of the British Colony. The French and 'Spanish' fighting Rif-like tribes in the hills. Vichy French colonials versus the British.

Later conflicts might include; The French fighting to keep their colony and failing. Soviet support of the former Italian colony, as well as numerous 'Brush-fire wars' into the bargain.

Going back in time, I can game from the Elizabethan era, right through to a 'Sudan-a-like' campaign in the late 19th Century and all points inbetween. It's just the matter of filling out the appropriate fluff in the Island's history.

Anachronisms abound, but are relatively minor. The advantages are many as I can tweak each period to suit; The Vickers Medium Tank gets to fight in a real war, if I so choose and the Republicans get some T28 tanks If I'm feeling generous too. I can have some fun with leader and unit names and play some RPG's in this setting too. The posibilities are pretty endless.

Okay there are some drawbacks. I can't justify massive German involvement in WW2, but that suits me, likewise American and British later war stuff is out too, until the post-war period. Having said that, I'm not really interested in playing them anyway, so no problem there for me. My interest in WW2 is pretty much over by 1942 in any case. 

So there we have it, a one-size pretty much suits all campaign setting.
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: twrchtrwyth on June 08, 2008, 11:44:21 PM
For an excellent guide to fictional places you should read The New Traveller's Almanac from The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen volume 2, comic or trade paperback.

Interestingly, (maybe), due to technicalities within British law, Wales may be a fictional country too!! :'(
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on June 09, 2008, 12:14:38 AM
For an excellent guide to fictional places you should read The New Traveller's Almanac from The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen volume 2, comic or trade paperback.

Interestingly, (maybe), due to technicalities within British law, Wales may be a fictional country too!! :'(

Well, having visited Cardiff on numerous occasions, it had occurred to me that this might be the case  lol
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Wirelizard on June 09, 2008, 02:03:21 AM
Wales may be a fictional country too!! :'(

All countries are fictional. Some are just a lot more fictional than others!  ;)

To poach from somewhere upthread, I like "Costagauno". I think I'll borrow it for a small country (or possibly British colony) somewhere in Central or South America. Or maybe Africa. Kind of hard to tell minor details like continents in some pulp stories anyway!
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Monk on June 09, 2008, 03:38:42 PM

To poach from somewhere upthread, I like "Costagauno". I think I'll borrow it for a small country (or possibly British colony) somewhere in Central or South America. Or maybe Africa. Kind of hard to tell minor details like continents in some pulp stories anyway!

Yes, since reading that, I've been enthused to finally create a name for my developing Central American republic: Republica Democratica de Nuevo Costaguano. 

A nation meddled with by the unscrupulous Dale Fruit Company in the 30's, German agents in the 40's  (including post-war visits), the CIA hunting Communists in the 50's and 60's and even the occasional Communist.  It stands as one of the few nations to have adopted a constitution mandating the right of senior military officials to stage juntas in times of unrest, perceived unrest, or foreign resource exploitation. 
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Doomhippie on June 09, 2008, 03:47:52 PM
And what's the capital's name? Macho Grande?
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: PeteMurray on June 09, 2008, 04:01:25 PM
And what's the capital's name? Macho Grande?

I just can't get over Macho Grande.
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Leapsnbounds on June 09, 2008, 10:14:58 PM
Gee, I use the fantasy world of Glorantha for my Renaissance and fantasy games and carved out a couple of countries to my liking there as I've already used so much of that stuff already.
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Arlequín on June 09, 2008, 10:41:52 PM
And what's the capital's name? Macho Grande?

I just can't get over Macho Grande.

Those wounds run.... pretty deep.
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: twrchtrwyth on June 10, 2008, 02:00:30 AM
And what's the capital's name? Macho Grande?

I just can't get over Macho Grande.

Those wounds run.... pretty deep.
lol lol lol
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Etranger on June 10, 2008, 06:18:29 AM
I'm gradually working on the fictional country of Wheristan, situated somewhere on the NW Frontier of Imperial India for a Pulp/BoB setting. It of course shares a common boundary with Bezerkistan but the boundaries are somewhat elastic since it also seems to have a common border with Tibet. In reality it must be somewhere North of Kashmir.
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on June 10, 2008, 10:03:43 AM
And what's the capital's name? Macho Grande?

I just can't get over Macho Grande.

Yay!  lol

At least you didn't call me Shirley.......
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Mogimbu on June 12, 2008, 07:12:22 AM
How about "Zangaro" from the film "Dogs of War"?
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Arlequín on June 12, 2008, 09:42:56 AM
How about "Zangaro" from the film "Dogs of War"?

Forsyth does give a very good background to the country in 'Dogs of War', so it is pretty much ready to wear.
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: dadlamassu on June 13, 2008, 06:36:27 PM
I created Morvalistan for colonial and some pulpish games - The central character is the redoubtable Binky!

http://www.morvalearth.co.uk/mstn_games.htm

Then there is Morvalonesia for most Pulp games set "out east".  Here flies Biggles and many others.

http://www.morvalearth.co.uk/Morvalonesia/Mvnsia_Games/Mnsia_Intro.htm


The original inspiration came from the fantasy world of Morval Earth created by the veteran wargamer John (Slim) Mumford - a long term opponent of mine - nearly 40 years in fact!
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: BaronVonJ on June 24, 2008, 03:04:07 PM
Here's one of mine:
http://baronvonj.blogspot.com/search/label/Unkerlant
-J
Title: Re: Fictional countries
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on July 09, 2008, 10:31:44 AM
Askaristan is a completely non fictional country ;) in central asia, in the area where Afghanistan, Tadjikstan, China and Pakistan all meet. Of course nowadays its called something else. Incorporated into the Russian Empire in the late 19th C it was the scene of fighting between Reds, Whites, British, Turks, Chinese and local tribes from 1917 to 1920.

It was also the scene of some hard fighting in the late 70's between various factions and revolutionary groups.

Details of both these periods can be found on the Aberdeen wargames club site - www.aberdeenwargamesclub.co.uk!!