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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Suber on January 13, 2014, 04:30:38 PM
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Arbitrators are, for some misterious reason, kinda charming. These 'Dredd in 40K' have become quite an iconic presence for a few Oldschool gamers. Funny, if you think it is an army which has not got much love from GW for a real long time. We only have a couple of models (in the very same pose) and no new minis since the very beginning of 2nd Ed (apart from an attempt for Necromunda and Inquisitor)
I had these minis for ages:
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2a2tzm.jpg)
Just a core, but I managed to have fun with that. At some time I saw this conversion work by Mike McVey:
(http://i53.tinypic.com/6odgmb.jpg)
So I fell in love with it and felt that I needed one of my own. My first attempt (I believe at some moment by 1997-98) was this... thing:
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2qui2du.jpg)
It is a converted Chimera, as you would have spotted. But of course I could not be satisfied at all with this, so I had to repaint it. Arbitrators need black gear. Don't ask me why, but these guys really need ominous colours.
(http://i54.tinypic.com/201u9j.jpg)
(http://i51.tinypic.com/jh54l0.jpg)
But then I knew I was in need for more Arbites ;D. I traded for some minis and I finally got enough models to build up two squads, one with shotguns and one with bolters. The main problem was the Judge. I couldn't have twenty different minis, but at least I would not have two identical Judges. I converted this one who was to lead the bolter squad:
(http://i53.tinypic.com/50hzjo.jpg)
So I finally got a couple of homogeneous squads:
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2qixuz5.jpg)
(http://i56.tinypic.com/2vaxj6b.jpg)
Then I fell in love again, this time I fell for FW Arvus Lighter. It looked square enough for my force ::). The model itself is a mess and needed extensive work just to make the pieces fit >:(, but that is another different story. The important thing is that I finally enjoyed painting it:
(http://i51.tinypic.com/24brm2a.jpg)
(http://i53.tinypic.com/2nvb428.jpg)
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2cdy14w.jpg)
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2yxiqsl.jpg)
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2gslgef.jpg)
After all this mess, I painted a few Arbites for a friend. I'm only posting here the conversions on the Judges (the rest of the minis are just the same!)
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2h65xqo.jpg)
(http://i53.tinypic.com/f40dgy.jpg)
(http://i54.tinypic.com/jrwgeu.jpg)
(Yes, there is a plausible explanation an explanation behind the lascannon guy)
You can see some more pics and story here :):
http://oldschoolworkshop.blogspot.com.es/2014/01/evolution-of-force-adeptus-arbites.html
I also got the Necromunda pack ages ago, but I have never come to paint it. My bad! I must do something about that!
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Great old school figures 8)
Got nearly a couple of squads worth myself and seeing other peoples it's tempting to get them out again :)
Good choice for the Arvus lighter, just the ticket for a flying chimera.
cheers
James
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cool Stuff :D So,the Judge isn't all that rare then? it's the only Mini i want from this Range (for my orginal JD Stuff ;))
a Gaming Buddy has a very large Arbites Army,though they're later Versions afik,with Cyberdog etc ???
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They'll be the later Necromunda figures with the weapon swaps and several poses, not as bulky as the originals :)
cheers
James
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cool Stuff :D So,the Judge isn't all that rare then? it's the only Mini i want from this Range (for my orginal JD Stuff ;))
a Gaming Buddy has a very large Arbites Army,though they're later Versions afik,with Cyberdog etc ???
I might have him and am not going to use him, if I can dig him out the lead pile would you want him?
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As I said elsewhere, I love these guys, the riot vehicle is really nice and the flyer is a great choice. Cool stuff.
I always wanted to pick up a few, but never managed it somehow. They are kind of superfluous when I have MC1 Justice Department figures painted, but it wouldnt take much for me to pick up some of those figures
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Nice work!
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Great work - I always had a soft spot for the arbites
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Great stuff!!
I love your chimera conversion!
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Do they still make the arbites figures?
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Not these they don't. Not so sure about the 'Enforcers' which was the latest release
Ebay would be the best bet but prepare to pay through the nose!
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I like your head swaps!
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Awesome work! Love the arbites. Pity they are so expensive!
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:o
Suber: This is stunning!
Great painting and conversions.
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Love that vehicle, perfect choice with the FW flying beastie and great conversions on the Judges!
:-* :-*
Top drawer all around.
8)
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Thank you all!
I have seen some pretty nice conversions over the internet, using Imperial Guard as a starting point. I may use something like that if I am to assemble a riot control squad or something. I guess Arbites are quite a good option for conversions. I think of a few tiny walkers or bikes/horses... some weird funny stuff anycase ;D
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Lovely, any chance of an backshot of the arbites
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Very nice work on these :) (especially the Arvus... very fitting).
So people still want to get hold of these arbites?
I have the judge, a grenade launcher trooper and three shotgun troopers (badly painted) that I could be persuaded to part with...
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Awesome and inspiring work there! 8)
You've made me remember that I have an Arbites project lounging on a shelf somewhere as well... ::) Mine were intended to be used as a game master's force in games of Necromunda, so that's why I've followed the Outlanders rules for the composition of my Arbites squads.
I've got two squads of five, one with shotguns and one with riot shields and stun batons. The last ones are conversions of shotgun troopers btw and there's a Proctor in each squad. Maybe now I might get me a Bolter squad as well.
And to top it off, I also have a Chimera conversion (finished, but the paintjob stalled just over the halfway point), for which I seem to have used the very same wheels you have! :o
Now I will have to give it a black Adeptus Arbites repaint too; thanks a lot... ;D
Keep it up; it's great to see an actual army being built with these badge bearing badasses. :)
+++EDIT+++ Just checked, and the rules for Arbites are in Battles In The Underhive instead of Outlanders...
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Very cool!
I have at least sixty Arbites and Necromunda Enforcers, all variants, plus a few wheeled APCs waiting for paint. :'( So little time...
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Very cool!
I have at least sixty Arbites and Necromunda Enforcers, all variants, plus a few wheeled APCs waiting for paint. :'( So little time...
feel you dude.
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I am thinking that now I need some futuristic civilians and modern rioters. When properly converted, they would assemble a nice mob, not just a Necromunda gang (other people do that, I want different things! ;D).
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Great stuff, I particularly like the number plate. 8)
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Excellent stuff. Especially the chimera and arvus. This is what it's all about. :)
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Thanks, guys :)
I'm going ahead with the rioters idea and I would like to ask you for advice. I don't want a typical gang, nor Necromunda style nor Chaos cultists or whatsoever. I would like to explore a concept different that any idea of "balanced" combat where everyone uses firearms and that stuff. So I'd rather depict just plain citizens going crazy and challenging the Arbites with sticks and slingshots. What could I use for that?
Offensive miniatures has exactly what I am looking for... but different ambientation, I'm afraid:
http://www.offensiveminiatures.com/catalogue.asp?RID=7&CID=3#
(http://www.offensiveminiatures.com/public/products/nfrm202-2.jpg) (http://www.offensiveminiatures.com/public/products/nfrm202-3.jpg)
(http://www.offensiveminiatures.com/public/products/nfrm203-1.jpg) (http://www.offensiveminiatures.com/public/products/nfrm204-6.jpg)
Of course those would need quite extensive indeed work of conversion, enough to challenge any small sanity remaining in my head o_o
So what other choices do I have? I believe Mirliton or Copplestone are the ones which are closer to what I'm looking for then, raggedy guys with light weapons, but I'm truly afraid of having some kind of Necromundish gang in the end. I have the same feeling about some other post-apoc minis (I have found some wonderful minis like the Eden range, but unfortunately slightly out of my budget for this tiny crazyness I am aiming for)
Should I dare to heavily convert the modern rioters by Offensive Miniatures (trying for some kinda Blanchitsu style -no idea of how to face a project like that-) and combine them with some Mirliton/Copplestone/etc.? Do you know of anyone producing something even remotely close to what I am looking for? I am not scared of converting, but I try not to work idly if there is any obvious solution out there ;).
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Do you know of anyone producing something even remotely close to what I am looking for?
I'm not even sure what you're looking for. ;D What's the 'different ambientation' you want? More futuristic? More 40K/Dreddish?
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I have a bunch of civilians stored away too, for fighting my vaporArbites. I have the old Void (now Urban War) militia as well as forty or so GW Frateris Militia figures. Sadly the latter are expensive and relatively hard to find, especially compared to their function on the table.
http://www.myriadminiatures.com/store-ecwid.php?langs=en&a=urbanwarthegame.com#!/~/category/id=3789374&offset=0&sort=normal
That link doesn't appear to go right where it should- look for Urban War/Blisters/Militia.
I used Empire plastic bodies (archers I think?) armed with lasguns for my low intensity conflict alien worshippers:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/13/3_19_05_13_8_27_41_2.jpg)
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I'm not even sure what you're looking for. ;D What's the 'different ambientation' you want? More futuristic? More 40K/Dreddish?
Oh, my bad. Sorry, I am looking for anything that could pass for a rioter in a 40k-ish ambientation, to challenge my Arbites. So the ideal thing should be the Offensive Miniatures guys I posted before, but dressed by John Blanche (well, any 40K/futuristic clothes will do, I believe ;D)
Thanks, Dr. Mathias, I'm having a look at the link and there appear to be some nice minis. Also love what you did there! :-*
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Love the 40k alien loving heretics dude!
Mix in a few with Tue equipment and you have an Xeons supported insurgency.
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raggedy guys with light weapons, but I'm truly afraid of having some kind of Necromundish gang in the end. I have the same feeling about some other post-apoc minis (I have found some wonderful minis like the Eden range, but unfortunately slightly out of my budget for this tiny crazyness I am aiming for)
Victory Force has some nice Minis in their Redd Reddan Range,i painted these Guys as Governor's Soldiers for a Battle of the Planet of the Apes Project :)Chainsaw Guy is from RAFM modern Heroes ;)
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad244/Falkenhayn/Sci-Fi%20Settings/sci-fi014.jpg)
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad244/Falkenhayn/Sci-Fi%20Settings/sci-fi015.jpg)
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Exellent work with those Arbites. :)
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Victory Force has some nice Minis in their Redd Reddan Range,i painted these Guys as Governor's Soldiers for a Battle of the Planet of the Apes Project :)
Cool, thanks for posting those.
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Thanks, guys :)
Should I dare to heavily convert the modern rioters by Offensive Miniatures (trying for some kinda Blanchitsu style -no idea of how to face a project like that-) and combine them with some Mirliton/Copplestone/etc.? Do you know of anyone producing something even remotely close to what I am looking for? I am not scared of converting, but I try not to work idly if there is any obvious solution out there ;).
Firstly those OM figures are beauties so I'd encourage you to try at least one pack.
Possibly consider Ainsty Hooligans? http://ainstycastings.co.uk/index.php/cPath/69/osCsid/055bd1ee39b7a1c0bdd17679726ac751
Also there's plenty of Zombie survivors who are armed with things other than guns, and plenty of viewing and choices there.
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You could consider 19th century rioters there are quite a few around.
Perry miniatures:
(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/acw/acw_51_.jpg)
http://www.perry-miniatures.com/index.php?cPath=23_32&page=3
Or the TVAG gangs of New York B'Hoys
some have a certain Clockwork Orange feel
(http://www.thevirtualarmchairgeneral.com/pictures/bg008-blokes723w.jpg)
http://www.thevirtualarmchairgeneral.com/210-bhoysfigs.html
West Wind have an angry mob too, in the Gothic Horror range.
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Thank you all, I'm finding quite interesting discoveries!
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Speaking of Clockwork Orange, you could try the Eavies/Friendsies from Crooked Dice.
http://www.crooked-dice.co.uk/wp/product/eavies/
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I thought I'd better give continuity to this thread instead of opening a new one, as the addition is so tiny.
I decided I wanted a drone for my Arbites. Yup, I know, anything but a servoskull is anathema in 40K. Servoscrew that. A drone, I said. ;D
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/mTHC_jK3T9YKzRL5n51MeiMEWBF77Oqs7nytMyJnqyRxF4-vbPuLA-3U-4n8DieQkuhUODQo=s0-d)
The main body is made using the plastic One Ring from the Fellowship of the Ring starter box, the rest are just bits from here and there.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/W2HY_TeN8u0BE8MtrpOXcHCePaRk4a3EMImKtrFle05hWFCmPjYyk2DD6eBrP7sSWzY9rAzH4w=s0-d)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/u2QfjkDJ-Jn_CcKBKO4ViMl3hdqG5tOVMcK4EyVmodxEEQNuDzNfvOaum6S_jGwq5WsIxcQWSQ=s0-d)
Just had to paint it black with yellow stripes, to match the rest of my forces...
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/hK1nt50MWGiZlINdcbMBE60E3zljqErM96YRxtAQWC_DjlULSXZLuSn1XE96M9n1wTmHJ7uVKQ=s0-d)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/pZ7SV9gekfOAXlwYUW3u1pz-IGSL0AZs_bqBE_4NSdbtLR2FnQIKygDuYGzG6ojuMnv9CAXP=s0-d)
Gaming wise I think its purpose will be identifying masses of rioters and stuff like that.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/hLHqqcuz9ryG8kL27b5_Lr12NOCw0AvYQqK_UXh-EQiNdNg4sAqJQYyrT83cmqy3LsSF5EBb4A=s0-d)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/UMIIayK0TfzaGQ23_EZFSRUK1xSvxv5mppQG6pjGooHlGS5dhd6LF5dJ8uH84-bm9jYib6lb=s0-d)
Commissarmoody suggested me to make remote operators, which I think is quite a cool idea. I don't think I have bits for that, but I'll have to do something about it...
You can read about the whole process here:
https://oldschoolworkshop.blogspot.com.es/2017/11/i-spy-with-my-little-cyber-eye.html
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Wow, it's back! :D
Nice looking drone and creative use of bits.
And if you're still looking for rioters, in the meantime there have been the Frostgrave releases; both the henchmen and cultists would provide you with plently of convertable bodies that can easily take some 40k weapons or other bits.
Think some cultist bodies with Catachan or even Genestealer Cult heads and some arms and weapons and you're all set! Saying that; a straight genestealer Cult would already provide the perfect antagonists for your Arbites... :)
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Gotta love the cute likkal drone....until it starts peering through your windows, of course!
8) 8)
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very nice indeed
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Thank you!
I have quite a bunch of rioters by now, from very different sources. The latest ones look like this:
(http://oi66.tinypic.com/20gi0e9.jpg)
But my idea is deploying the whole group of civilians as can be found in this thread (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=69419.0), so we have the feeling of thriving population :D
I have plans for the Genestealer Cult too, but that will come, that will come in time... :P
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Those rioters look great! I imagine you had a lot of fun with those conversions.
The Arbites look great too but I’ve always been put off by the cost of a decent compliment in modern times. Here’s hoping we get some new plastics on the back of Necromunda!
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The latest addition to my law enforcement force is, well, slightly different. I had been wanting to add some armoured element to my Arbites, and I thought that a Sentinel would be fine. Not too heavy and it fits in the general vibe. It all begun with an old, broken cheap toy, a police car. I preserved the lights and then built this:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/S2IuzpcddiFgRBhN-1MqmpB0b_3H9h-zAwxLFWYHsfQBMiYJFWFWMSbTZ4B1tnFyRGZjJyXJCQ=s0-d)
I used the heavy flamer configuration, but of course replaced it with a heavy webber, which makes sense for a riot control vehicle. After splatting some black on the model I got this:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/9gYUv8DHnkiQsScT3b4sCl23lUPY6q-jEJVuFABXapK-oE2sA1RXKHrGy1Ba34A4NPfC8xwZpg=s0-d)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/YGE0Javhq53jKM8tKhk4tLgvGry4vIcnO9r8cEAl3YAEDIrI_J8F3T1Z81NekEN3Bngqgx2z=s0-d)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/jTybFExWthhDmZOfz2bu7hxCdnq7P9NqNvjaBbz64ipjYn4KKDtSGzP8FXRK2ZU8GhfkWudehw=s0-d)
Easy, cheap and quick. All I ask for!
https://oldschoolworkshop.blogspot.com.es/2018/01/riot-control-armoured-sentinel.html
I'm looking forward to seeing how it performs when the revolution starts...
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Very nice. That came out great. The Webber is an excellent idea as well.
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That is a brilliant idea, taken to a great finish.
Like the detailing with the insignia etc.
8) 8)
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Looking good dude. Love the addition of the sentinel and the drone.
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The Sentinel is looking good and is inspired. What bits did you use for the Webber?
I am storing this idea for future reference... ;)
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Very good.
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This is turning into a judicial army of epic proportions :)
Great work and the addition of the drone and Sentinel conversions is icing on a rather tasty cake :)
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That sentinel is great. It fits the concept really well.
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The Sentinel is a very simple and smart conversion. It works out perfect!
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Love this thread, and glad to see it back --- have you seen the W. Artel miniatures for Arbites?
(https://img1.etsystatic.com/181/0/14873453/il_570xN.1431144321_23o4.jpg)
He's working on some others including a cyber-bulldog, etc.
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Love both drone and sentinel as well :-*
Great idea and perfect execution on both counts, bravo Sir!
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What a great thread. I've always loved the old 40k arbites.
I started to make my own about ten years ago with the plastic scout bodies and some pig iron production heads. The 'real' ones are cool though.
https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/ex-citadel-games-workshop-fantasy-sci-fi/products/ba001-empirical-absolution-and-liquidation-squad
The Empirical absolutiond liquidation squad Foundry sell, sort of grandad to those models, are great in their own right in an old school way.
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Thank you all! Designing this law enforcement tiny army is quite rewarding; finding small units that may fit in the vibe, like the Sentinel or the drone, is terribly fun. I'm really looking forward to seeing them on the board.
What bits did you use for the Webber?
The central piece is the heavy flamer that comes with the Sentinel. I just cut the igniter itself and replaced it with a cilinder shaped piece (I think it was a light from some vehicle). With some greenstuff I made the muzzle holes. It is pretty much that simple :).
have you seen the W. Artel miniatures for Arbites?
(https://img1.etsystatic.com/181/0/14873453/il_570xN.1431144321_23o4.jpg)
I've seen it, and it's gorgeous! For the moment I'm only planning another squad, though (I hope I'll finish it in the next few days). I think that only if GW released some new Arbites for Necromunda I'd consider getting new stuff (and this bloke would be definitely a purchase too!)
https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/ex-citadel-games-workshop-fantasy-sci-fi/products/ba001-empirical-absolution-and-liquidation-squad
They are lovely too; I do have them, but I use them as local Bailiffs. They may have some jurisdiction issues with the Arbites, that would make a fun scenario ;D
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2017 it is "To Protect and To Serve" in year 41.9XX it's "To Correct or To Purge" lol
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I've seen it, and it's gorgeous! For the moment I'm only planning another squad, though (I hope I'll finish it in the next few days). I think that only if GW released some new Arbites for Necromunda I'd consider getting new stuff (and this bloke would be definitely a purchase too!)
You owe it to yourself to get the W Artel fig to lead your arbites. I got him on a whim, great service, wonderful casting and scales well with the originals.
This is on the hirizon now, I can't wait. Gonna build a little squad to bust the balls of the local gangbangers and genestealer cultists
(https://scontent.fmad3-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/26757908_309506296226607_8715154556929678246_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoibCJ9&oh=0431b38c360de88af71dbd969badde82&oe=5AF0D065)
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:o :o :-* :-*
I can build full squads!?!
Oh, [censored], I'm so [censored] up ;D
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This unit has required a lot of patience, years of failed attempts of building it, lurking eBay avoiding some ludicrous prices, some eventual greenstuff work... But I've finally come up with a full riot control squad. The base were, of course, the Necromunda Enforcers. Here you can see an example of the kind of conversion work needed:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/proxy/A4w5F1tQunWCCHKtH30uTY7_Lhjz4VrFJNkTqwBhN4qyqO4QsUPgy0yMilAyGBX2NIw1j1_sag=s0-d)
While I had a couple of original power mauls, I had to improvise for the rest. Mainly from the Skitarii (Best. Bits. Box. Ever) or handmade...
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/fVI3zX5G2YsJ7ELYSX5d0KHlcsd4XH2-rWV2dSE62zz0ESqqkE_bRLVc_jpweEncykF4K5FpgQ=s0-d)
The ten of them (plus a dog!)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/proxy/4kNiT_uAVvpVophrCWn7MSDWcWeCzoshiet9aasbkmXUBgZSB2ScwrZ9Vb-daZY3maPB8LSp=s0-d)
So the full force looks like this:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/epgimzAFBrQJmBVKMGQ8_QYPYjmU4Vm4Im1cQKA6XsTlTWsYVUwpA3IkceMDu_kC3qn1DRNY=s0-d)
- Three 10 men squads (one with shotguns, one with bolters, one with mauls & shields)
- Transport/detainee vehicle
- Arvus Lighter
- Sentinel
- Drone
- K9
OK, apart from a dog handler and a remote controler for the drone, I could happily declare this project closed. Well, that would be if you just hadn't pointed me towards those Artel W minis... :-*
Ahem.
For now, you can have a look at them on the blog too (https://oldschoolworkshop.blogspot.com.es/2018/01/arbitrary-arbitrators.html).
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Congratulations on filling the precinct!
:D :D
They look great, all posing for the annual staff photo like that.
8) 8)
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Great job - just love that vivid blue on the visors!
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Top job Suber, they look great all together like that.
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You owe it to yourself to get the W Artel fig to lead your arbites. I got him on a whim, great service, wonderful casting and scales well with the originals.
This is on the hirizon now, I can't wait. Gonna build a little squad to bust the balls of the local gangbangers and genestealer cultists
(https://scontent.fmad3-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/26757908_309506296226607_8715154556929678246_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoibCJ9&oh=0431b38c360de88af71dbd969badde82&oe=5AF0D065)
The Artel W minis looks ace.
I have read some reviews where the size of the minis was criticized however - people claiming they stand on 20mm bases and are significantly smaller than GW's Catachans. Can anyone who owns them post a shot with a comparison? Or measure their size?
I'd be really interested to see how well they scale with "smaller" scales; i.e. I'm really looking for 20mm ("Dark Future") Judges that work with matchbox cars.
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If these are 20mm bases (in the render), then the minis themselves are closer to 32mm I reckon?
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Yeah, those are normal Warhammer scaled, so heroic 28/32mm, and would dwarf a normal Matchbox car - not anywhere near 20mm size.
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Yeah, those are normal Warhammer scaled, so heroic 28/32mm, and would dwarf a normal Matchbox car - not anywhere near 20mm size.
Thanks. So it was probably a hoax caused by the more realistically proportioned Artel W minis, I guess.
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I have read some reviews where the size of the minis was criticized however - people claiming they stand on 20mm bases and are significantly smaller than GW's Catachans. Can anyone who owns them post a shot with a comparison? Or measure their size?
Measuring the ones in front of me you're looking at a range of 30-34mm for regular humans. They're a bit thinner than the Catachans. Since the Catachans are high G Deathworlders referred to as "baby Ogryns" that's not too bad. There's a bit of variance in the Artel size which to me seems in the range of normal humans. Nice, multipart and a good match for GW humans.
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I've found these comparison shots:
(https://img1.etsystatic.com/196/0/14873453/il_570xN.1263373951_dvi0.jpg)
(https://scontent.fmad3-7.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/19800726_233372763839961_9145283867915484619_o.jpg?oh=5638ca6270fb05c87f3866b3ba400fc7&oe=5AE28929)
They look slightly larger than regular 40K minis, definitely closer to the 32 than to the 28mm. Anyway, as almost all their ranges are 40K proxies, one would think they should scale nicely along them :? ???
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The Artel W minis looks ace.
I have read some reviews where the size of the minis was criticized however - people claiming they stand on 20mm bases and are significantly smaller than GW's Catachans. Can anyone who owns them post a shot with a comparison? Or measure their size?
I'd be really interested to see how well they scale with "smaller" scales; i.e. I'm really looking for 20mm ("Dark Future") Judges that work with matchbox cars.
I've not got my hands on any of their figures yet (the order's in the post), but I believe the small figure thing may have arisen from their first lady Inquisitor, who is a bit on the small side. As best I can gather, all their newer stuff is well-scaled for GW compatibility.