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Title: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Helen on June 12, 2008, 11:41:33 PM
Hi Guys,

Lon has shown the first pics of this new range in 28 mm designed by Paul Hicks:
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s266/HelenBachaus/new%20products/KPWIndians1.jpg)

(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s266/HelenBachaus/new%20products/KPWPilgrims1.jpg)

Please read the blog by Lon below:
Some have already started to email me about the preview shots of the upcoming King Philip's War range and the July release of Among the War Parties which is a supplement to the "Gloire" rulebook by Rattrap Productions.


King Philip's War (KPW) is something I have been wanting to make miniatures for quite some time. I got inspired reading the novel Mayflower and haven't been able to shake the thought from my head. With Rattrap doing a period specific supplement for Gloire, it seemed that all the moons were aligned to make this happen.


There are 2 preview pictures of 2 of the 4 upcoming packs sculpted by Paul Hicks that will be released in July in the photos folder "1 - Brigade Games King Philip's War." The 4 packs and a special figure of King Philip himself are currently being master molded.  What could be cooler than armed pilgrims!


A brief on the war from Wikipedia -

King Philip's War, sometimes called Metacom's War or Metacom's Rebellion, was an armed conflict between Native American inhabitants of present-day southern New England and English colonists and their Native American allies from 1675–1676. Colonial historian Francis Jennings estimated that the War killed nearly 7 of every 8 Native Americans and 6 of every 13 English settlers. King Philip's War was proportionately one of the bloodiest and costliest in the history of America. More than half of New England's ninety towns were assaulted by Native American warriors

The war is named after the main leader of the Native American side, Metacomet, Metacom, or Pometacom known to the English as "King Philip."

Here is some background information about KPW -

http://www.pilgrimhall.org/philipwar.htm

A little bit about AWP -

Murray who wrote "Gloire" and "Under the Black Flag" has turned his attention to the Americas.


Among the War Parties brings the high adventure of Gloire into the
forests, jungles and frontiers of the Americas! Create imposing war chiefs
who do great deeds in battle, or terrifying and greedy Conquistadors, or
stealthy and straight-shooting frontier woodsmen. This book introduces
over a dozen new character archetypes, as well as new skills, weapons, and
equipment for you to fight and survive in the unforgiving wilderness. This
supplement contains a mammoth 35 Scenarios in five linked campaigns,
ranging from the streets of the Aztec capital, Tenochtitlan, to the frozen
and trackless forest in winter, to the wars of colonists and natives in
early America.

Sharpen your tomahawk and check your flint, and set out on the trail Among
the War Parties!

Among the War Parties: Adventures in the Early Americas is our next book
due for release. It will ship in July with a retail price of $19.00.

We will be having a special deal on the book, the four packs and special figure of King Philip.

Stayed tuned for that announcement and preorder information.
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: PeteMurray on June 13, 2008, 01:41:13 AM
This is indeed fortuitously timed - King Philip's War is one of the campaigns in "Among the War Parties!" The war is an incredibly fascinating one, bloody and brutal, and the first time the Europeans learned the value of adopting the raid-and-reprisal warfare. It almost wasn't enough...

More gorgeous work by Paul, on these guys!
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: carlos marighela on June 13, 2008, 02:54:15 AM
Lovely I can see these guys just as readily attacking the Quilombo dos Palmares as well. Can we have some in shirtsleeves too please?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quilombo_dos_Palmares
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Helen on June 13, 2008, 03:29:54 AM
So Pete this is your work?

This is great news and I look forward to seeing how this develops in time. There is something about pilgrims and spreading the word of the Lord and using fire and sword if needs be for the latter!

You will find more info plus some colour plates in Men @ Arms "Colonial American Troops 1610-1774 (2)." I like the idea of the troop of cavalry that played havoc against the Indians.
I like the Indian tactic of using a flamming barrel like a cart and pushing it against block houses etc. Sounds like a Forlorn hope!

"Colonial American Troops 1610-1774 (3)" has a small section on rangers on page 21, which details in a few sentences about Captain Benjamin Church and his small band of rangers and allied indians an on one occassion killed King Philip in a skirmish!

Ospreys American Woodland Indians covers the conflict in a small way plus has a beautiful colour plate of a Niantic-Narraganset warrior.

This is a really cool period and my congrats to all involved in this project.  8)

Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Mancha on June 13, 2008, 04:36:37 AM
I like the pilgrims with muskets, and the indians are certainly worthy of admiration.  However, with respect to the later, I hate to see Brigade (as much as I like Brigade and respect Lon) invading upon what might be considered Conquest's territory.
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Operator5 on June 13, 2008, 11:36:10 AM
No one likes to see their favorite companies, seemingly treading on the other's work. I work a lot with Brigade (they stock all our stuff) and I'm using Conquest figures to illustrate Among the War Parties. But I think in this case, Lon's armed pilgrim release will spur more sales for Conquest. The addition of a couple of Native American packs won't hurt Conquest. And the more companies that produce figures for a line, the more interest among gamers can be generated.

There are probably people who buy from Brigade who have never heard of Conquest. Now they might start the period and, in looking to expand their Native forces, stumble upon the Conquest ones.
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: SgtPerry on June 13, 2008, 11:59:35 AM
Incredible Paul strikes again!

Olivier
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Orctrader on June 13, 2008, 01:43:01 PM
They look good to me  :)

Any links to images for Indian warpaint of that period anyone?
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Operator5 on June 13, 2008, 02:24:16 PM
Someone on Frothers posted this information.

Quote
The two Griffing books are excellent for paint, beadwork, and the like. You can find some of his prints online at http://www.paramountpress.com/index.html (http://www.paramountpress.com/index.html) for free though. I have also looked at this place for painting reference http://www.wanuken.com/ (http://www.wanuken.com/)
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Orctrader on June 13, 2008, 02:27:24 PM
Someone on Frothers posted this information.

Quote
The two Griffing books are excellent for paint, beadwork, and the like. You can find some of his prints online at http://www.paramountpress.com/index.html (http://www.paramountpress.com/index.html) for free though. I have also looked at this place for painting reference http://www.wanuken.com/ (http://www.wanuken.com/)


Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: axabrax on June 13, 2008, 02:31:47 PM
Fantastic idea.

I think Eric at Conquest has his hands full right now.  I am still waiting for the F&IW Regulars and have been waiting for the Comanches--on horses that Eric likes--for several years now.  Given the production schedule at Conquest I think it's safe to assume that Brigade is not treading on any sort of imminent Conquest release. The more figs the better I say.
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: PeteMurray on June 13, 2008, 02:38:03 PM
So Pete this is your work?

I've exchanged miniature ideas with Lon in the past, but it wouldn't be right to say that these were "my work." I don't set Brigade's sculpting schedule and production priorities.

I would keep Paul on a regular diet of Dexedrine and greenstuff if I did.  :)
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Conquest on June 13, 2008, 04:09:35 PM
Although King Phillips War was on my 'to do' list, I admit it's easily a 6 months off at best. I'm very surprised that Lon has started this project, but I can only blame myself if anyone chooses to do a period of which I'm interested. (It's not like he can read minds o_o) I do have a habit of taking my time about things. In this case, I think Lon is just trying to capatilize on the new Among the War Parties release. Can't really blame him, that's just smart.

Having said that, the only way I'm going to keep releasing, or even finishing projects, is if the public actually buys what I have. The last two  French Marine and Frontiersman packs have failed to meet thier sales goal, and my tin prices just went from $8 to $11.50 (from $4 last year). I don't have a very large setup and I can't pull resources from my 'real' paycheck to make up the difference.

So, I'll do my best to protect my 'territory' if you all spread the word to your friends and tell them to BUY MY MINIATURES. (buy them now, cause after Historicon the prices are going up again...)

By the way, I think these are fine looking miniatures. Lon and Paul have done a great job. Buy them while buying my stuff, start a Woodland Wars popularity trend and help the little people compete with the cheap crap that runs rampant out there. We're all quality gamers, lets collect quality miniatures. ;)

My Historicon releases (or, Rich can back me up here, IF, my mold maker is healthy enough) will be;

3 packs of Seminole Warriors
1 pack of Miami Warriors
1 new special edition Magua (the war whoop scene when he and his warriors attack the British column)
Pre-orders for British Regulars (could be cast in time, but I doubt it)
Pre-orders for French Regulars (could be cast in time, but I doubt it)
Pre-orders for US Army to fight the Seminoles (could be cast in time, but I doubt it)

Of those listed above, everything is finished, except all the regulars, which are coming along. There will be 2 more Seminole packs released later, and again, depending on the health of my mold maker, everything will come out this summer.

I have done a Wendigo model and Indian Warrior Zombies, but master molds haven't even been done so it will be a while before I can release these.

Most of the Comanche Horses are done, but still no master molds.

I'm still trying to find that winning Lottery ticket I had, but it's been misplaced for a couple of years...

-Eric 'needs you to start buying stuff' Roof
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Mosstrooper on June 13, 2008, 04:38:06 PM
Oh no !  :o , I must resist the temptation ! , going to hide under the bed till they go away ! (but they are very nice figures and the subject intrigues me)
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: PeteMurray on June 13, 2008, 04:39:53 PM
I am totally buying Seminoles. The Seminoles are awesome - practically the non-horse-riding Cossacks of America. They were incredibly tough bastards, but living in a swamp will do that to you, too.
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Operator5 on June 13, 2008, 04:51:10 PM
The Seminoles could make for a good "search for the fountain of youth game" with a model to represent Ponce de Leon.

Heck, I'll buy them and use them as guardians in a Fountain of Youth game set in the pulp era.


Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Ray Earle on June 13, 2008, 06:48:02 PM
Great figures from Mr. Hicks again.

eric@ I have your Comanche that I purchased from North star in the UK, I will definitely want the mounted ones when they become available.

Looking forward to seminoles as well.  :D
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Captain Blood on June 13, 2008, 06:49:25 PM
These look lovely, lovely, lovely.

I'm hopeful the Indians will scale in well with my existing Redoubt woodlanders, and the settlers will double very well into my burgeoning English Civil War skirmish forces...

So, all in all, I'm absurdly, deliriously happy to see these  ;D

Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Citizen Sade on June 13, 2008, 08:56:39 PM
1 new special edition Magua (the war whoop scene when he and his warriors attack the British column)
Pre-orders for British Regulars (could be cast in time, but I doubt it)
Pre-orders for French Regulars (could be cast in time, but I doubt it)

Eric, is there any way us Brits can get in on this Historicon/pre-release action? I'm in desperate need of Brits to massacre. And a stripped for action Magua come to that.
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Ray Rivers on June 14, 2008, 02:58:34 PM
-Eric 'needs you to start buying stuff' Roof

I'll be ordering your Australian Light Horse, mounted and dismounted and the Thrilling Expeditions rulebook in early July. 

Hang tough..  ;)
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: fastolfrus on June 14, 2008, 06:10:42 PM
purchased from North star in the UK

That's very handy to know.....another option for lead bankruptcy on the horizon :~}
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Lowtardog on June 14, 2008, 06:20:05 PM
I like the look of the Conquest French Marines and the Brigade Indains (conquest also) My mate has the redoubt Fortress which I will have to push him into painting or do it for him  ::) then perhaps some Frenchies methinks later in the year set for the lead pile ;D
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Argonor on June 16, 2008, 08:22:14 AM
I have done a Wendigo model and Indian Warrior Zombies, but master molds haven't even been done so it will be a while before I can release these.

I shall be buying those - and most of your zombie pygmies. I've gone completely braindead these days  ;D

I'll take a look around your website, but I do not plan to do woodland indians... collecting too many periods already....
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: axabrax on June 17, 2008, 08:34:47 PM
Hey well I just placed an order including those much neglected Marines packs B&C and the Frontiersman.  Also willing to buy all the Comanches when they come out, to pre-order all the FIW regulars, Magua, Indian Zombies, Wendigo, etc.. Just bring 'em on!  Still have plenty of cash for King Philip range too!  :D
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Lowtardog on June 17, 2008, 08:56:12 PM
Hey well I just placed an order including those much neglected Marines packs B&C and the Frontiersman.  Also willing to buy all the Comanches when they come out, to pre-order all the FIW regulars, Magua, Indian Zombies, Wendigo, etc.. Just bring 'em on!  Still have plenty of cash for King Philip range too!  :D

Ooh forgot about the mounted Comanche...any timescale on horseys? perhaps the ebob ones minght work OK?
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Conquest on June 18, 2008, 05:05:28 AM
Thank axabrax, it's much appreciated.

The horses actually do work though. They are thinner than they should be, and because they are supposed to fit any rider give or take a mm, they ended up all off a bit.

I sculpted blankets on a couple for specific riders and they work perfectly, unfortunately, it's not fair for me to expect everyone else to have to do that.

The new horse are just the others fixed, and should make everyone happy.

Again I stress though, my caster is ill, and my releases for the next several months will be sporadic at best.

Now, every else order something. I have to pay for the new castings somehow!!!
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Argonor on June 18, 2008, 10:41:17 AM
OK, I'll go for the pygmies as soon as I get my Paypal-account confirmed - my sending limit is reached, so I have to wait a couple of days....
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Aaron on June 18, 2008, 03:13:38 PM
Eric,

I sent you an email. Check it and send me a bill. ;)

Aaron
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Argonor on June 19, 2008, 09:28:09 AM
Now, every else order something. I have to pay for the new castings somehow!!!

Just finished an order - and you can thank Rich and Pete for me buying a couple of packs for the woodlands anyway - I really wanted the OOS Last of the Mohicans - characters, but that will have to be another time... perhaps when you have the indian zombies and wendigo ready...  ;)
Title: More UpComing Releases - King Philip's War
Post by: Helen on June 24, 2008, 10:09:11 PM
New Photos of more upcoming releases of KPW:
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s266/HelenBachaus/new%20products/KPWIndians2.jpg)
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s266/HelenBachaus/new%20products/KPWPilgrims21.jpg)
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Operator5 on June 24, 2008, 10:32:23 PM
Love the guy with sword and pistol!
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on June 25, 2008, 05:29:51 AM
Too bad that there seem to be so many problems in getting Brigade's stuff here in Germany.  :'(
I'm really impressed by this new range, mainly because nobody did that period before me thinks.
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Argonor on June 25, 2008, 07:51:43 AM
Too bad that there seem to be so many problems in getting Brigade's stuff here in Germany.  :'(

You can get brigade stuff from Battlefield Berlin..?
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on June 25, 2008, 08:52:02 AM
Asked them, but they don't refresh their stock.
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Argonor on June 25, 2008, 08:56:08 AM
OK, wasn't aware of that..
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: fastolfrus on June 25, 2008, 09:13:06 AM
Too bad that there seem to be so many problems in getting Brigade's stuff here in Germany.  :'(
I'm really impressed by this new range, mainly because nobody did that period before me thinks.

What are you after ?
Maybe one of the other forum members could help out ?
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: brigadegames on June 25, 2008, 11:37:04 AM
Too bad that there seem to be so many problems in getting Brigade's stuff here in Germany.  :'(

You can get brigade stuff from Battlefield Berlin..?

Why not order direct? I handle anywhere from 20-40 parcels a week being sent overseas (Canada, GB, Europe, Asia and Australia/NZ..) Shipping is reasonable and you get to buy more stuff since our dollar is in the dumps as far as exchange rate.

shipping info is here:

http://www.brigadegames.com/go.mvc?ID=Shipping

That said -

We ship first class because it can be registered. We do not recommend Flat Rate Priority Mail if it can be avoided. Orders with a value over $100 are sent registered. We can ship Express Mail or FedEx at an additional cost.

Shipping is very reasonable. Be aware the webstore will typically overcalculate. Be aware that we will not ship your parcel until all items are in stock if we are out of something. If there is an expected long delay we will contact you. We typically have a good stock of all items.


$ 8.81   FC 8.7 oz Steam Launch and CEA001 ($27) to CANADA
$ 8.65   FC 3.5 OZ   5 figs ($13.50) TO GB
$10.45   FC 5.5 OZ  15 figs ($40.50) TO GB
$11.35   FC 6.5 OZ  15 figs ($40.50) TO GB
$11.35   FC 7.8 OZ  20 figs ($50) TO GB
$11.35   FC 6.3 OZ  6 figs, 1 small vehicle ($38) TO Netherlands
$12.25   FC 7.3 OZ  20 figs ($53) TO France
$12.10   FC 7.6 OZ  15 figs ($41) TO France
$13.85   FC 8.9 OZ  varoius resin and metal wheels, 8 figs ($51) TO GB
$13.85   FC 10.1 OZ  23 figs ($61) TO Netherlands
$13.70   FC 10.8 OZ  20 figs ($44) TO New Zealand
$13.70   FC 10.7 OZ  27 figs ($76) TO Germany
$13.75   FC 10.7 OZ  25 figs ($68) TO Netherlands
$13.85   FC 11.6 OZ  5 PACKS MSW ($75) TO france

$15.45   FC 12.9 OZ  3 PACKS WIE, Model T ($60) TO Belgium

$15.40   FC 12.2 OZ  28 WIA figures ($60) TO Spain
$17.05   FC 1 lb, 2.7 OZ  25 figs, FT-17 ($98) TO france
$17.05   FC 1 lb, 2.3 OZ  2 hellcats, decals & accesories ($92)TO FR
$17.05   FC 1 lb, 3.6 OZ  3 cavalry packs, 2 inf packs  ($83)TO SWEDEN
$18.70   FC 1 lb, 4.1 OZ  1 small sub + decals ($56) TO GB
$22.40   FC 2 lb, 1 oz, 6 packs WIA plus SC book ($98) to Australia

registered (order value over $100 is sent registered)

$26.75  FC 1 lb, 2.1 OZ  44 PCJ figs ($115) TO Australia
$26.75  FC 1 lb, 2.2 OZ  2 Mark IV tanks ($100) TO GB
$28.40  FC 1 lb, 5.1 OZ  9 MSW packs ($127) TO France
$29.35  FC 1,10.6 OZ  3 Pks ADVH + asst Rattrap, sloth ($103) TO GB;
$31.70  FC 1 lb, 14.4 OZ  13 MSW/BPP packs + 2 AD packs ($230) TO France
$33.75  FC 2 lb, 1.1 OZ  various figures ($205) TO Australia
$37.35  FC 2,14.1 OZ  60 figs + small sub to Spain ($200);
$41.60  FC 3 lb, 5.1 OZ  3 A7V, 12 figs ($200) TO Netherlands


Regarding Battlefield Berlin, I have been in contact and probably in the Fall I will be arranging to get product to them but I can not guarantee it. While my caster has been doing a fine job I find I have them pretty much at capacity for the months around our big conventions here (March/April, July and November.) I am doing a slow but steady stock build to increase my stock levels in order to handle additional sales but at the current pace that will take me a while to do and a bit of money to invest.

The new releases pretty much definitely won't go to to any retailers before a several month delay as I need to recuperate as much investment as possible as quickly as possible to keep this locomotive on it's tracks. Most don't realize that Brigade is a part time business for me that has grown enormously with support from customers like on LE. I wish I could do it full time but as with many businesses in this hobby it only makes a small profit. I also re-invest a lot into the business to hopefully continue it's growth. I have the added complication of working with family in my day time job which anyone can tell you in a similar situation can be trying at times. Brigade Games is a labor of love.

So order when you can. Email me or IM me if you have any questions.






Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Gallowglass on June 25, 2008, 12:42:39 PM
The new stuff looks very nice  ;)
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on June 25, 2008, 02:59:29 PM
brigadegames,
thanks for all the effort. Chapeau for your 'halftime business'. I'm really not questioning your shipping policy, but I'm a little bit scared by German customs officials. Sometimes you're lucky enough to avoid being declared - but don't rely on that. UPS and the like are said to be controlled by default. If your package is picked, you have to fetch it from the next customs office and to remargin the taxes. Nobody's fault, only bureau-crazy... ::)

fastolfrus,
I'm after a lot of stuff (maybe apart from modern after 1944). Perhaps I'll start a topic on the marketplace as soon as I compiled a list. ;)
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: brigadegames on June 25, 2008, 03:24:50 PM
BTW - I ship United States Postal Service (US Mail), not UPS (United Parcel Service).

I sent you an IM.
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: axabrax on June 25, 2008, 04:52:40 PM
Ok now I am really hooked!  I actually thought I probably wouldn't be buying the Indians in this range--just because I have probably 150 Woodland Indians of various makes already--but now I will definitely be getting those as well. Would be nice at some point to see more specifically tribal Indians for the range though as I don't think there are many ranges for early New England tribes. In fact, The Eureka Powhatans are the only ones I can think of.  I am not an expert, but aren't these Indians more 18th century, generic Last of the Mohicans looking? Also would it be appropriate to have a few pilgrims in the conquistador style helmets, and will the new settlers pack mix historically with this range?  I obviously need a little education here  ;)

ax

PS: When will the pre-order go up?
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Lowtardog on June 25, 2008, 06:48:51 PM
You cant go wrong with Lon from BNrigade I have ordered a few times, postage is top notch and he is very cunning in how the parcel is sent truely a smuggler in a previous life :D
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: brigadegames on June 26, 2008, 01:23:23 PM
Ok now I am really hooked!  I actually thought I probably wouldn't be buying the Indians in this range--just because I have probably 150 Woodland Indians of various makes already--but now I will definitely be getting those as well. Would be nice at some point to see more specifically tribal Indians for the range though as I don't think there are many ranges for early New England tribes. In fact, The Eureka Powhatans are the only ones I can think of.  I am not an expert, but aren't these Indians more 18th century, generic Last of the Mohicans looking? Also would it be appropriate to have a few pilgrims in the conquistador style helmets, and will the new settlers pack mix historically with this range?  I obviously need a little education here  ;)

ax

PS: When will the pre-order go up?

I would highly advise picking up and reading "Mayflower." There is a link to the book and other KPW books on my site on the right side/mid page.

The book starts with the Pilgrims in England and their attempts to get to the New World. It then gets into the relationships they built with come of the local Indian tribes and how they co-existed and after a period of dependence on the Indians the rolls reversed and many of the tribes became dependent upon the Pilgrims. This didn't sit well with all the tribes and even with some within some of the closest tribes and resulted in King Philip's War (Metacomb's War.) The younger generation who did not experience and fully understand the relationship building/co-existence and reliance that the original Indians and Pilgrims had developed were the main instigators of the war.

That said, the closest Indian tribes would dress in mixes of "anglo" and native clothing and hence this is how I chose to have Paul do these first packs. As with all ranges, if sales are promising adding to the range is a no brainer. I have already received good verbal response and I am personally intrigued with the period so there will be at least a few more packs. I suspect it will be a bunch more packs though if my intuition is correct. As always, make whatever suggestions you would like in my yahoo group.


Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Gallowglass on June 26, 2008, 01:53:41 PM
The period seems very interesting and is certainly a new spin on the F&IW. Readily admitting that I know pretty much nothing about the war, would there have been any use of mounted troops, or does it stay pretty much like the 1750's - mainly infantry/ skirmishers? Did the pilgrims have any artillery? Small cannon?

Just curious.. :)
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: SgtPerry on June 26, 2008, 02:57:02 PM
Love the guy with sword and pistol!

Solomon Kane!

 :-*
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: axabrax on June 26, 2008, 03:36:55 PM
Thanks for the response Lon. I will pick up Mayflower, and when I have a little more knowledge of the subject may make some requests on the BG group.  Right now it'll be fun doing some research and just figuring out how to paint the figs.  I always wanted to run a Call of Cthulhu game set in Jamestown, and these figures will double for that as well...

AX
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Gallowglass on June 26, 2008, 03:54:56 PM
a Call of Cthulhu game set in Jamestown,

 :o :o :o :o :o :o

Can I play???
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Aaron on June 26, 2008, 03:58:18 PM
Cthulu in Jamestown is good, but setting it in Roanoke would explain a lot!
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Hammers on June 26, 2008, 04:19:33 PM

The new releases pretty much definitely won't go to to any retailers before a several month delay as I need to recuperate as much investment as possible as quickly as possible to keep this locomotive on it's tracks. Most don't realize that Brigade is a part time business for me that has grown enormously with support from customers like on LE. I wish I could do it full time but as with many businesses in this hobby it only makes a small profit. I also re-invest a lot into the business to hopefully continue it's growth. I have the added complication of working with family in my day time job which anyone can tell you in a similar situation can be trying at times. Brigade Games is a labor of love.


It sounds like you could use all the encouragement so let me tell you that your business is one of very few companies awarded a top ranking five stars in 'hammershields Extremely Stern and Influential Guide to Wargaming Companies' (colloquially 'Guide hammershield'). And ,let me tell you, my undercover shoppers weigh in such various parameters as quality, range of catalog, frequency of new products, PnP expediency, degree of images in online store, discretion towards customs authority and/spouse and usage of penned in personal salutations on invoice, to name a few.

I congratulate you, sir!
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: brigadegames on June 26, 2008, 09:57:03 PM

It sounds like you could use all the encouragement so let me tell you that your business is one of very few companies awarded a top ranking five stars in 'hammershields Extremely Stern and Influential Guide to Wargaming Companies' (colloquially 'Guide hammershield'). And ,let me tell you, my undercover shoppers weigh in such various parameters as quality, range of catalog, frequency of new products, PnP expediency, degree of images in online store, discretion towards customs authority and/spouse and usage of penned in personal salutations on invoice, to name a few.

I congratulate you, sir!

Thanks for the praise.
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on June 27, 2008, 09:12:17 AM
I would highly advise picking up and reading "Mayflower." There is a link to the book and other KPW books on my site on the right side/mid page.

Lon,

As I'm unable to find the link you mentioned [almost certainly due to my ineptitude and not a fault with the website], is this the book you mention?

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51N6JJHEWYL._SS500_.jpg)

If so, it appears to be available for low prices used on Amazon.co.uk  :D


Cheers,
Ian

Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Conquest on July 02, 2008, 05:33:26 PM
That would be it Gluteous. It's a great read.
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on July 03, 2008, 09:33:46 AM
That would be it Gluteous. It's a great read.

Thanks!

I'm hoping it will arrive from Amazon.co.uk soon. Only GBP5.90 for the hardback version means more cash to spend on your's and Brigade's Indians  :D

I'm not too worried whether they are slightly anachronistic for this war, as I can use them for the 18thC too. I love multi-use armies.
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Aaron on July 03, 2008, 02:04:57 PM
I have an older edition of Leach's Flintlock and Tomahawk: New England in King Philip's War I picked up a few years back. I still have not read it, but it has several useful maps and looks like it would be great for putting together scenarios and a campaign.

http://www.amazon.com/Flintlock-Tomahawk-England-King-Philips/dp/0940160552/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215090137&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Flintlock-Tomahawk-England-King-Philips/dp/0940160552/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215090137&sr=1-1)
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: brigadegames on July 05, 2008, 12:29:42 AM
Yes that appears to be it. We had a different cover here in the USA.

And to answer your other question - on the main page - http:/www.brigadegames.com (http://http:/www.brigadegames.com) there are 2 vertical banners on the extreme right side - one is specifically to links for KPW books at Amazon.


As a side note - I received the metal masters the other day and they went in the mail FedEx to my caster and molder for productions molding and casting. Release should be in a few weeks and I will put the pre-orders up this weekend.

Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on July 07, 2008, 11:34:39 AM
Yes that appears to be it. We had a different cover here in the USA.

And to answer your other question - on the main page - http:/www.brigadegames.com (http://http:/www.brigadegames.com) there are 2 vertical banners on the extreme right side - one is specifically to links for KPW books at Amazon.


As a side note - I received the metal masters the other day and they went in the mail FedEx to my caster and molder for productions molding and casting. Release should be in a few weeks and I will put the pre-orders up this weekend.

Thanks Lon!

Well, found the book eventually and received it from Amazon.co.uk on Friday. Now all I have to do is save up and get figure orders organised!  :D
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: axabrax on July 07, 2008, 04:00:05 PM
Did I miss the pre-order somewhere over the weekend? Can't find it....
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Shikari Sahib on July 15, 2008, 09:48:57 AM
Hi Lon,
on your website the figures are not on the list, when they will be available?
thanks
Piero

PS: I'm one of your customer from Rome,Italy
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Operator5 on July 15, 2008, 10:55:42 AM
I spoke with Lon yesterday (and delivered his copies of Among the War Parties). I expect you'll see the pre-order either today or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: brigadegames on July 16, 2008, 12:04:58 AM
We have our incoming castings of the first release of our King Philip's War range arriving in
the next day or so.

On Friday, Among the War Parties will be released.

Those who preorder will have the miniatures and the rules shipped on Thursday (of course that assumes I get the miniatures on Thursday otherwise they will ship when they arrive.)

Those who preorder and put "Historicon pickup" will have a parcel waiting at our booth in
the Exhibition Hall. If you have already placed an order for pickup and want to add to it just
place the order in the webstore and reference the other pickup order in the comments.

Those who order after Saturday I will not be able to guarantee shipment until following
the Historicon convention (we leave for the convention 7/22 and return 7/28.)

I have activated the codes for preorders:

http://www.brigadegames.com/go.mvc?ID=BGKPW (http://www.brigadegames.com/go.mvc?ID=BGKPW)

Please note that Among the War Parties is a supplement for Gloire so if you don't have
that, you will need it for the core rules.

b/r

Lon Weiss
Brigade Games

P.S. Feeling better each day after having my gall bladder removed last week.
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Darkoath on July 16, 2008, 09:14:50 PM
Glad to hear you are feeling better after surgery Lon! :)
Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: brigadegames on July 17, 2008, 04:30:42 AM
Thanks. It went fine, albeit my recovery to full strength is taking longer than I expected although within the doctor's original timeline. I guess I was too optimistic.

For those who are wondering - we got the KPW miniatures today so they are in stock now -

As an international postage note - I weighed up a box containing the Among the War Parties book and the first 4 KPW packs and King Philip and the total cost with postage to GB was $100. As always the webstore will overcalculate postage and we will adjust when we mail it. Obviously to other countries the postage might vary a little (Canada will be significantly less expensive.)

We also received MSW009 Townsfolk, in stock.


Title: Re: Brigade Games UpComing New Period - King Philip's War
Post by: Helen on July 17, 2008, 07:10:45 AM
Hi Lon,

It's lovely to read that you are on the mend.

Thanks for the update on the new range too.