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Title: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on June 13, 2008, 10:51:10 AM
Hi all,
    After drooling over Malamutes' Town I decided it was time I had a few of my own. So I dug out my knife and attacked all the bits I had to hand, Unfortunately I ran out of foam card and time. Another problem was that I got a bit carried away with my ideas and built 3 and 3 quaters of them. It happened while one was drying I just had to keep cutting and, well you all know what it's like.
 My first is an End terrace, 2 story, which will have a yard out back with coal bunker, and privvie (toilet).

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/Endterrace.jpg

Next I did the same building but doubled it up. This will be bricked up as soon as I finish this.


http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/streetsofar.jpg

Next I wanted a slum type building made of clapboard, with boarded windows, rotting wood etc. After I  finish the brickwork above I will be doing the spacers for the planking.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/slums.jpg

Lastly I have another building to go with the last, It is a warehouse and rooms on the left, with doorway for a hoist, and a shop of ill repute ,with living quaters above. This will look out over docks, river or canal with a second hoist for the warehouse overlooking it. I'm unsure how to finish the back of the building however apart from putting the doorway for the hoist. Any suggestions would be gratefully considered.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/dockareawarehouseandshop.jpg

  The houses of a more respectable area will be surrounded by pavement, whereas downtown buildings are cobbles.
Now i just need to get some (lots of) balsa and foam board.
I will place more photos as they progress. The slum type have got my interest most at the moment though. This means I need to paint my Holmes and Watson.

Cheers

Fritzy


Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Dewbakuk on June 13, 2008, 11:00:07 AM
Those look like a great start! I've wanted to do this myself but really lack the room at the moment.

For the back of your canlside building, take a look at some real ones. Here are a few shots I've found of the big canal buildings in Nottingham.

http://www.jwoodhouse.co.uk/nottinghamshire/not63.htm

http://www.jwoodhouse.co.uk/nottinghamshire/not62.htm

http://www.nottspubs.co.uk/images/Newark_TheWaterfront01.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/109/286056854_9bcdfd759c.jpg?v=0
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on June 13, 2008, 11:13:06 AM
Thanks Dewbakuk,
      The waterfront one is just right. I want versions of the canal and waterfront as a place for Moriaty to slip in and out of London.
  Cheers

 Fritzy

    Well that's another building to add to the list written on a kitchen roll lol lol
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Malamute on June 13, 2008, 11:24:03 AM
Looking good Fritzy.
You have cracked on quickly. At this rate you will have built Old London town within days. :)
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Operator5 on June 13, 2008, 11:29:59 AM
Nice start. I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with the rest. And can't wait to see the whole town together.
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Thunderchicken on June 13, 2008, 01:23:12 PM
Good work Fritzy, what do you use for the bricks?
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Skrapwelder on June 13, 2008, 02:16:48 PM
Good looking start with some nice concepts. I like the end row houses.
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: DFlynSqrl on June 13, 2008, 02:19:52 PM
Definately a good start there Fritzy.
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on June 14, 2008, 09:15:34 AM
Thanks for the encouraging comments,
     Thunderchicken, I layed every brick by hand using the new tool for keeping them straight from the price drop channel. lol   No, OK then, I used printed card sheets from Metcalfe. They are for railway scenery and in oo/HO scale.
   
  Cheers

  Fritzy
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fastolfrus on June 14, 2008, 11:21:30 AM
Looks good, better than I could cope with.
Not a criticism, but I'm only used to terraced housing in the north where you only see the gable end on the end of a row, generally I've obly seen terraces with the roof ridge running along the whole street.
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Lowtardog on June 14, 2008, 12:36:08 PM
Looks good, better than I could cope with.
Not a criticism, but I'm only used to terraced housing in the north where you only see the gable end on the end of a row, generally I've obly seen terraces with the roof ridge running along the whole street.

His Slums he has done that way but I know what you mean :)
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Pappa Midnight on June 14, 2008, 05:07:20 PM
Looking good so far mate! :D
I hadn't noticed the roof issue, should be easy to sort out.

Regards
PM
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fastolfrus on June 14, 2008, 06:03:12 PM
I'm only used to terraced housing in the north where you only see the gable end on the end of a row, generally I've obly seen terraces with the roof ridge running along the whole street.

His Slums he has done that way but I know what you mean :)

Are you saying that we northerners all live in slums ?

One more quip like that and I'll set the whippets on you :~}
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Lowtardog on June 14, 2008, 06:29:35 PM
Hey I am a geordie :D cant get much more northern English than that :D

Here are the terraced houses that were peculiar to the North east called Tyneside flats, I lived in one when little in North Shields where "When the Boat comes in" was made ;D

(http://www.1stop-propertyshop.co.uk/tyneside-flat.jpg)
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: odd duck on June 14, 2008, 08:22:01 PM
Looks Like your off to a good start Fritzy. Good luck with this project. You might want hunt down"Sherlock Holmes in London "by Charles Viney it's basicly a collection of old photos of places in London that feature in holmes stories . It would probably give you more ideas for buildings and miscelanious(sp?) details than you could practicaly use.
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on June 15, 2008, 03:20:25 AM
AH   ERRRRR  UUUUMMMMMM    Oh.  You noticed my deliberate mistake with the roof then lol lol lol
  Oh B*****ks, missed that didn't I...... serves me right for having too many ideas, trying to go to quickly working too late into the night and not planning them but just building as I go.

     Fastolfrus, congratulations you go to the top of the class for observation  lol lol
 
  Now I will have to change them tomorrow, the end house I will leave and move to another street.

   Odd Duck, thanks, I will definately look this one up, I am rereading all the Sherlock Holmes stories for the 3rd time now, and still enjoy them.

    As a centerpiece for the town I have a special piece  I want to make, but I will need to call on help from certain members. Just help and advice mainly and to try and keep secret from ?       

Cheers

Fritzy
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: odd duck on June 15, 2008, 07:22:27 AM
I thought 221b Baker st would be the obvious centerpiece, but It sounds like you're going for something more ambitous and dramatic in mind! I won't make any guess's  but you've definitely made me curious, I look forward to watching your progress good luck
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fastolfrus on June 15, 2008, 10:52:32 AM
  Now I will have to change them tomorrow......
    As a centerpiece for the town I have a special piece  I want to make, but I will need to call on help from certain members. Just help and advice mainly and to try and keep secret from ?       

Cheers

Fritzy

Unless you make it new Amsterdam ? :~}

Dutch gables may be fine for a few houses anyway - stick them in the middle of a street just for variety.

A centrepiece like Nelson's column maybe ? That would be spectacular in 28mm.
A large dockside warehouse would be more useful though - the type of thing that Dr Who used to frequent before all the yuppies bought them as flats.

Or a theatre, frequented by either the Phantom of the Opera or the Peking Homunculus....
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on June 15, 2008, 11:05:16 AM
AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHH   Stop making my list bigger. I'll need a warehouse to llive in soon, let alone build a mini one. Seriously though, thanks for the comments and ideas they are all going on a list in some unknown order.
   Odd Duck, 221b Baker street will be built at some point, seeing as I managed to pick up  Holmes and Watson minis at Uk Games Expo, just before Pappa Midnight got his talented grubby fingers on them lol
          Now to move some gables around and clad my wharehouse.

Cheers

Fritzy
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fastolfrus on June 15, 2008, 12:05:56 PM

You might get a few ideas from the old Dr Who "Talons of Weng Chiang", but I would add a set of Victorian sewers and storm drains to your list.

Almost compulsory for any villain, an underground lair limked to the sewer network....
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on June 15, 2008, 12:26:08 PM
Fastolfrus, you have sneakily tapped my mind. Sewers are covered by castings from Old Crow. I'm working on my list now. I haven't seen these so I'm ordering a selection of them to make my mind up as to what pieces will fit where, and how many etc.
 Now I have to build a wall around my mind as well,  lol

Cheers

Fritzy
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fastolfrus on June 15, 2008, 01:34:17 PM
I got a few of the sewer sections from Ainsty starting with a starter set and then adding in a few extra pieces, then picked up a second starter set on a bring & buy so we now have quite a large selection.

The mine sections they have are very good too.....

If Plymouth wasn't so far away you'd be welcome to have a look at our sets.
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on June 17, 2008, 01:58:12 PM
Fastolfrus, Thanks for the offer, but it is a long way away. I was going to use the raised floors and drain gully pieces then bring them out to the dockside, one to a house cellar and maybe one more. What are the pieces like? I couldnt see them at UK Games Expo, and by the time I got there I had already spent out, and had an order list the length of the M1.
 As an update I have moved the gables and covered the building and started on the center piece. I hope to get this one done on Sunday if I can get all the parts.
   I also need a largish plynthe to sit a statue on, can anyone suggest a way of making one or if you can buy them?

Cheers

  Fritzy
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fastolfrus on June 17, 2008, 10:28:58 PM
I'll see if I can get some photos of our pieces for you, may take a couple of days I'm not good with technology.
As for plinths, we picked up some wooden display bases from a model shop bargain bin, but other options might include cake decorating shops (the shops who provide wedding cake pillars are often a good starter point) or depending on shape that you need, some craft shops have small balsa boxex or styrofoam shapes that are sold for decoupage projects (but usually at a horrendous price).
Also look at things like drawer handles, mosaic tiling, or even curtain fittings (perhaps cheapest from a charity shop or second hand from a curtain shop that fits new curtains for people)
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on June 24, 2008, 01:29:06 PM
Hi all,
   Just an update really. I changed the gables over and bricked the terrace houses, have covered the warehouse and shop with planking ( took longer than I expected) and have been doing the basics for a police station and am half way through the centerpiece. I'm hoping to have it done apart from the paving next weekend.
     To keep you going here's the updated piccies.

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/homes012.jpg)

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/homes013.jpg)

I will have more to follow soon, I just need more foam board and time.

Hope you approve of the changes.

Cheers

Fritzy
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Malamute on June 24, 2008, 03:51:18 PM
Jolly impressive old boy.  :) This project is coming together quickly.looking forward to seeing the whole thing laid out. What size table do you expect to play on?
Also what are you doing for doors and windows?
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: odd duck on June 24, 2008, 03:55:48 PM
Looks Good !! That warehouse looks like it took a fair bit of time! looking forward to watching your progress you seem to be setting a good pace for yourself. I'm a bit jealous my pulp city project has been stalled for a while now by the intrusion of the real world. Good luck
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on June 25, 2008, 12:33:56 AM
Hi there,
     Glad you approve :D, yes Odd Duck the warehouse took ages, a good part of sunday on and off. I just have 3 more sides similar :'(.
      Malamute, I am going to frame window recesses with balsa (1/8" square) then make a frame up then add clear plastic for glazing. For a table size anything from 1.2m wide by whatever length I can squeeze in ( 6 - 8 feet).
      Hopefully I can get some Daz (modelling clay)( before someone asks what I'm going to use washing powder for) in the morning so I can get the end walls done. I'm going to try and get them to look like the plaster has fallen away in disrepair in places. I will post pics when they are done.

    Right back to work

  Cheers

  Fritzy
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Dewbakuk on June 25, 2008, 07:39:52 AM
Quote
Hopefully I can get some Daz (modelling clay)( before someone asks what I'm going to use washing powder for)

 lol I think you mean DAS  :D
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: odd duck on June 25, 2008, 08:15:00 AM
Yes Das ,have'nt used it for years did some tree trunks and earthworks , never tried any buildings with it though. Have you used it for plaster effects before? everyone else seems to use spackle or pollyfilla did'nt think you could spread it thin enough!
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Malamute on June 25, 2008, 08:19:10 AM
I would use Polyfilla. Thats what I have rendered all my adobe buildings with. You can get a very thin layer and then gently wipe over with water applied on a palette knife to get a smooth finish. When dry a light sanding with sand/glass paper to remove any bumps.

To save time on the windows and doors you can buy them relatively cheaply from TM terrain. They have a great selection of precast windows doors etc of all shapes and sizes. Their sash windows are perfect for Vc London.
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Lowtardog on June 25, 2008, 10:36:44 AM
A few years ago I decorated our lounge with this liquid paper thing which yo then put a wax on it looks like Mediterranean stucco, not smooth but works very well for Adobes and plaster with a more run down look. Cant think what it is called. Thought I had some still but cant find it and cant remember the name :?
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on June 25, 2008, 01:10:32 PM
Hi again,
       OOOOPPPS on the spelling but I haven't used it in years.
      Malamute, Thanks, I will check them out. It may be a bit late for the ones already built, but for the next batch my life will be alot easier.
       Well, I picked up my DAS ( lol) earlier and after 15 -20 minutes here is the first end wall done, until I plank up the rear facing wall,  then I just have to cover the edge up to the planks.
    I tried to get it to look as if the plaster has collapsed in a few places, what do you think. If it passes scrutiny by my peers (you fine gents) I will do the same on the other ends. Not to much just here and an odd bit there.

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/DSCF0007.jpg)

Cheers

Fritzy
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Dewbakuk on June 25, 2008, 01:34:00 PM
That looks great Fritzy!
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Malamute on June 25, 2008, 02:05:32 PM
I must say that looks pretty impressive. :)
It looks much easier to apply than Polyfilla and less time consuming.  :)
Being the Anal sort of chap that I am to really set it off I would paint some hairline cracks on the render just where it is crumbling away, just to make it look like the render is really knackered.
Also something else to add that distressed look is a couple of Tie bars on the flank walls to make it look like they are trying to keep it upright!

Here are some examples:

http://www.retinascope.co.uk/tiebars.html
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Geudens on June 25, 2008, 02:18:11 PM
New old London is certainly expanding...  Very nice work indeed!

Rudi
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: odd duck on June 27, 2008, 04:56:00 PM
That Looks great! I'll have to try some things with das again. I'm really impressed with your speed of progress looking forward to seeing more!
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on June 29, 2008, 09:46:16 PM
Hi guys, after getting some more foamboard mid week I had bit of a building spree Thursday and Friday morning, Saturday off and did a bit more today.
Here is what I have got done now
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/homes016.jpg)
Here's the finished ends of the rundown buildings
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/homes015.jpg)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/homes014.jpg)
This is my 8 terraced houses and single house
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/homes017.jpg)
This is the front view of my police station
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/homes018.jpg)
This is the side view with entrance/exit for the police steam tank. Windows around tunnel are barred for the cells. Close up piccies when Das has been tidied up. It is still drying as I am posting these. I still have a small wall section beside the door to do and tidy the missing brickwork on the side elevation.
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/homes019.jpg)
This last one shows the back court yard and parking area for the tank.
I also have an Amera church almost ready to undercoat as well, and the centerpiece is comming along well. Now I'm nearly out of foamboard again I will now start getting the windows and finishing bits together.
    The next pics will hopefully show most buildings with windows, doors and roofs.

Hope you think things are comming along and enjoy the pics.

Cheers

Fritzy
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Pappa Midnight on June 29, 2008, 10:14:57 PM
BLOODY HELL! :o
Someone has been a VERY BUSY BOY!!!

Looking excellent Fritzy!
I think that requires a "WELL DONE!!!"

Regards
PM
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Malamute on June 29, 2008, 10:20:08 PM
Blimey, You don't hang around do you ;)

Excellent stuff, this collection is looking superb. :) I am seriously impressed with how quickly you have pulled this together and they have a great period feel to them.
Some in action photos needed soon ;D
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fastolfrus on June 29, 2008, 10:27:11 PM
Is it my eyesight, or are there a lot of wires hanging down in the police station.... you're not wiring it up for electricity too ?
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on June 29, 2008, 10:46:54 PM
OH B*****ks, Iwas going to keep that quiet til later Fastolfrus. Yes the over door gas lamp is run on electricity ??? ???. It is from a German company making model railway stuff. I will also be trying to do a gas street lamp with the panes blacked out with blue but with POLICE left clear, like they used to. Does this make sense????
     I also forgot that i've got my 3 story pub cut out but the windows, doors etc. still need to be marked in and cut out. I'm basing the look of the pub on The Ten Bells of Jack the Ripper fame ( I'm sure it was mentioned there somewhere) although it is 4 stories tall.
     Now for a cuppa tea and out with the stanley knife.

Cheers

Fritzy
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: odd duck on June 30, 2008, 03:30:43 AM
I don't know which is more stunning your quality of work or you speed of production!!  :o :oAt this rate I won't be surprized to see the tower of london!  and a scenario with Moriarty being chased over the tower bridge with the crown jewels!!!!and all done by august!! lol lol You are an inspration to all scratch builders :-* :o :D and I think I'll head off to my own workbench
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Malamute on June 30, 2008, 08:44:22 AM
I don't know which is more stunning your quality of work or you speed of production!!  :o :oAt this rate I won't be surprized to see the tower of london!  and a scenario with Moriarty being chased over the tower bridge with the crown jewels!!!!and all done by august!! lol lol You are an inspration to all scratch builders :-* :o :D and I think I'll head off to my own workbench

I second that :)
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Geudens on June 30, 2008, 01:52:21 PM
Fritzy old man, slow down or you'll need to rent a warehouse in a month or so to store the town!!!!

Rudi
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on July 02, 2008, 08:59:36 AM
    Hi there,
        No new pics as yet, I've been cleaning up an enemy figure for all armies. I wont say what it is but hopefully will have it finished on Saturday, so pics posted on Sunday.
      Anyway I am about to cut out window and door recesses on my Ten Bells Pub and have some foamboard left. I can get maybe 2 more buildings out of it. Once it is used up I will concentrate on finishing the buildings off.
     So what 2 buildings do you think I should build (I have the ministry building from Amera comming). The best ideas will be built, not too challengng though, please.

Cheers

Fritzy

PS These will be built on Sunday with piccies posted in the evening. Set myself a challenge there.
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Rabbitz on July 02, 2008, 09:42:48 AM
A museum, Somewhere all those wierd and arcane items can be found
A Barbers ala sweeny todds
A Courtroom  with grumby old men in white wigs
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: odd duck on July 02, 2008, 10:31:37 AM
Well as you have the goverment building covered, how about a Bank  and /or a building suitable for a foreign embassy nothing like a robbery or foreign intrigue to get the dice rolling!other choices would be a music hall/theatre or a Gentlemans club or a couple of shops, Hotel? You'll probably get a long list of ideas. Best thing would be to figure out your first game scenario and make sure you have everything you possably need for it.
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Supercollider on July 02, 2008, 11:31:41 AM
Absolutely brilliant stuff.  You may have inspired me to actually begin some victorian/modern/pulp stuff of my own :)

One idea for a building: How about a tube station? I think the first underground railway was operating by around 1868 - and it means you won't have to buy a train! ;)

Could be a good exit/entry point and/or goal for various adventures?
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on July 08, 2008, 10:50:54 AM
Ok guys,
     Sorry but I had a rather lackluster weekend. My brain was in gear and I couldn't narrow the ideas down to a couple. So I ended up doing a bit more to my centerpiece. I have the capping for the wall to do, some more paving is needed as I ran out, then paint the paving, then add the water then varnish ( or maybe varnish then add water). Any help on using woodland scenics water would be great as I've never used it before.
    Anyway here's a few pics of it so far, hope you like it.
First up is the bottom with an unpainted ( how unusual) Westwind gentleman for size comparison

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/fountain002.jpg)
Second is the GW pegasus from the Empire Army for my statue

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/fountain001.jpg)
Lastly for the moment is a complete view from above.

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/fountain004.jpg)

The plynthe needs to be glued and painted as well.

Keep the comments and ideas comming, I'm now scribbling on the walls as I've run out of paper lol.

Cheers

Fritzy
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Captain Blood on July 08, 2008, 11:34:52 AM
Very fine  :)
Now you need an Eliza Doolittle and a flower stall to go with it.  ;)
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: joroas on July 08, 2008, 11:46:23 AM
..........and her elocution teacher..........
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Pappa Midnight on July 08, 2008, 08:19:52 PM
Looking good Fritzy Old Bean!
Good choice to go with the Pegasus... ;)

I'm looking forward to see how this water effect stuff turns out.

Cheers
PM
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Captain Blood on July 08, 2008, 11:58:57 PM
Oooh, should have said - if it's the Woodland Scenics 'realistic water, it's better to it lay down in several thin coats and gradually build them up.
Thin coats go off hard in about 24 hours.
If you pour it too deep - it never goes off!  ;)
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: The_Wisecrack on July 09, 2008, 12:31:29 AM
pardon my ignorance but who makes the Victorian plastic gent.
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on July 09, 2008, 01:16:41 AM
I like the "Peggy's 'oss"  statue - pardon the Black Country dialect. We have a similar "work of art" on one of our roundabouts in Dudley  lol  Not as nice as yours, though.

As it's a GW, I hope you got it cheap  ;)

 I look forward to the finished item!

Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Dewbakuk on July 09, 2008, 02:57:01 AM
Quote
pardon my ignorance but who makes the Victorian plastic gent.

He's not plastic. It's a Westwind London Gent with a grey undercoat :)

No idea about the water effect stuff, looking forward to how it turns out on yours Fritzy, before I try it  :D
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: odd duck on July 10, 2008, 04:05:10 PM
Nice looking monument you've got there!! :o :o I'm actually relieved not to see another complete street done,The pace you're setting is amazing !looking forward to seeing that pub you mentioned, and thanks for the inspiration I might have 1pulp building finished by next week
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Malamute on July 14, 2008, 11:38:35 AM
loving it Fritzy.  :-* Some photos of everything set up would be great too ;)
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on July 16, 2008, 12:33:37 AM
HI all,
    I tried posting this lunchtime before work but didn't send it. So here goes again.

     After 3 attempts to get the plynthe looking right on Sunday I think the last attempt works. The fountain wall has had the capping stones fitted and been varnished and now the plynthe has been painted. If you my esteemed coleagues think it looks ok then I'll get it varnished, and fitted to the base. Then add the water 24 hours later. :o

Here's 2 piccies to let you see the almost finished result.

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/fountaina002.jpg)

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/fountaina001-1.jpg)

  Let me know what you think.

  Malamute, your wish is my command, I'll try for something the weekend.

Cheers

Fritzy
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: odd duck on July 16, 2008, 05:58:09 AM
The base looks great, and the proportions of the pillar to the plinth look right,but the  plinth looks kind of bare!Are you planning some water spouts or something simulor(sp?)I'm no expert but I don't think the victorians would leave that much space unadorned? Sorry I don't have more definate sugestions.
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on July 16, 2008, 10:00:43 AM
  Hi,
   Odd Duck, I am looking to put one on each side, but as yet I am struggling to find something to fit. I thought of trying GW shields but they didn't look right, I have some Bretonnian knights helms with heraldic tops which I am looking at but not sure about. I will be adding something though.
   As well I have another set of terrace houses on the way and a group of 3 buildings ( 2 shops and a corner pub). These are metcalfe low relief kits, which myself and Pappa Midnight, are trying to rescale to fit.

more soon

Cheers

Fritzy
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Dewbakuk on July 16, 2008, 11:40:58 AM
If you know anyone who has them, the plastic Mordheim sprues has gargoyles etc on it. Another useful source is 6/10mm monsters. Just chop the front half off and stick to a wall.
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: joroas on July 16, 2008, 11:43:04 AM
My Pegasus' Gothic building had loads of extras.  I'll look them up and see if I had some spare.
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: odd duck on July 16, 2008, 04:00:22 PM
I see you're ahead of me and already working on it ! The only sugestion I can come up with would be to check out toy stores and see if you can find some plastic lions and mount the heads as water spouts painted bronze! I'm sure what ever you decide on it'll be great. looking forward to seeing the pub it would'nt look like England with out one!
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on July 17, 2008, 03:04:21 AM
Hi Esteemed coleagues,
     At last here is the pub, albeit in covered shell form and as yet un-named. As well as doing the fountain I have been trimming balsa down for window/door frames sils etc. I'm also waiting for the local model shops to get in some packs of grey brickwork so I can finish rendering the terrace houses. In the pipeline next is a set of shops and another pub, and a set of terrace houses, both from Metcalfe, that need enlarging and reprinting. The Police station is in the middle of being painted as well. There's no more news about the fountain waterspouts yet, will be making a decision and completing it for or at the weekend.
  Here's the pub, still un-named from the left

  (http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/pub001.jpg)

Here you're looking at the front doors

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/pub002.jpg)

And finally here's the small back yard. Beer barrels are stored in the cellar which may hold a secret doorway to the sewer system.

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/pub003.jpg)

I hope this wets your appetite and lives up to your expectations from me. I promise alot more to follow after the finishing bits are done to the already built units. Plus I have the citizens waiting to be painted.

Thanks for all your comments and encouragement, keep it comming, critcisms as well.

Cheers

Fritzy
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: odd duck on July 17, 2008, 05:06:25 AM
That's a large establiment and the landlord must have a nasty reputation he has'nt even started pouring and the coppers arealready outside :o lol
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Bullshott on July 17, 2008, 12:42:27 PM
That's a large establiment and the landlord must have a nasty reputation he has'nt even started pouring and the coppers arealready outside :o lol

Based on London coppers I know, I think he is actually waiting for the pub to open so that he can down a swift pint!
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Malamute on July 17, 2008, 02:26:59 PM
Nice work Fritzy :) The speed with which you put these things together worries me....There are supernatural forces at work here, Is Pappa Midnight using his Vodoo magic again I wonder :o
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Geudens on July 17, 2008, 09:17:17 PM
At last: the pub!  What do you have on draft? I'll pop in one of these days...  :D

Looking good!

Rudi
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on July 19, 2008, 01:12:46 AM
Hi Guys,
       The actual building of the buildings is actually a very quick and easy process, and almost foolproof (must be if I can do it). All you really need is an idea of what you want and relative size. Then you draw out the wall sections onto foamboard, mark out doors windows etc and cut everything out. Once all sides have been cut out you make sure they all fit together and once you are satisfied lay them out for covering. Now you cover each piece in a glue of your choice (1 at a time) and cover this with a sheet of brickwork. Now do the others.
       Now have a cuppa. All dry? Yep. good. Now cut along the tops and bottoms of the windows and the tops of the doors. Then make a vertical cut in the middle of the previous cuts to join them up. All that's needed now is to fold the flaps into the holes to brick up the uprights. Glue these then trim excess off on the inside.
  It couldn't be easier, without someone else doing it for you.
    There my secrets outon a very easy method.
    It's the finishing off that drags the process out.
  I'll have some pics of things up on Sunday. Not sure what as yet.

 Cheers

  Fritzy
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Ramshackle_Curtis on July 21, 2008, 11:45:21 AM
See, I dont get why people use foam baord. I much prefer ordinary carboard. Its free, its more eco friendly and if you are reusing old boxes then its recycling too! Foam board limits the size of your construction by its ridiculous cost, in my opinion. Especially if you are covering it anyway, and you cant see the textrue...
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Dewbakuk on July 22, 2008, 08:59:32 AM
It's not that expensive Curtis, besides, most of us don't have large amounts of thick cardboard from resin deliveries  :D We have to make do with much thinner stuff such as food packaging. The main advantage of Foam board is it can be painted or have coatings applied without going soggy or warping.
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on July 22, 2008, 09:33:58 AM
Hi all,
    Curtis I use card as well as foamboard depending on what I want. Foamboard gives me the added bonus of the thickness which gives you instant window recesses. So far I've only spent around £5 on foamboard. Plus it's easier making and joining corners which are stronger. Like Dewbakuk said, I too dont have access to the thicker corrugated card only the thin type used for cereal boxes. In the end you can use what you like and different people use different things for different jobs. At around £5-6 per sheet I think it's quite reasonable.
 
  Cheers

   Fritzy

   Now back to trimming GW horse heads for the fountain spouts. Hope to have piccies soon if I can get them looking right.
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on July 27, 2008, 12:31:44 PM
Hi Guys,
     After a slow week of changing shifts at work for the last day and being away (stayed at my Dads for the change at work( Did 3pm to 11pm then next day was 7am to 3pm)) It's less travelling time. I finally managed to get the fountain ready to varnish today ready for the water tomorrow :o. I still need to drybrush the pavement before it is ready to varnish.
 Hope you like the use of GW horse heads ( Big thankyou to Pappa Midnight for suggesting them), I and PM think it ties the statue and the fountain base together.
 Now I'm on 2 weeks leave I hope to get more done, todays jobs include woodwork on windows etc and fit a pair of gates to the pubs back yard. Any ideas for the pubs name will be considered as I'm drawing a Blank (apart from The Lead Adventurer poss.)

Here's the latest pics then

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/fountain005.jpg)

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/fountain006.jpg)

And slightly blurred sorry, very late night shooting things up on the Xbox with PM and then waking early

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/fountain007.jpg)

Hope you like the progress, sorry it's slow. I'll try to speed up a bit now i'm on my hols. :D

Cheers

Fritzy
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: odd duck on July 27, 2008, 04:50:35 PM
That looks great!!!was'nt too sure about the horses heads when I first heard it but I was'nt thinking medival warhorses! which look just right good call PM .looking forward to seeing the water effects. As for Pub names ,"The Tin soldier","the clockwork inn"," Aeronaut's Rest"" Doyle's, Or "The Cloak and Dagger" I'm sure the rest of the membership will give you a long list to choose from! Good luck with the windows ect. they've always been a bit of a stumbling block for me.
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Malamute on July 28, 2008, 04:55:28 PM
Nice one Fritzy. :)

Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Pappa Midnight on July 28, 2008, 05:48:35 PM
Damn good idea to use those horse heads....... ;)   lol

Looking good Fritzy old boy, i'm still waiting for the water effect ( a severe case of "you have a go first!")

Pub names.....Hmmmmm.....
Something patriotic perhaps:
"The Jewel In the Crown"
"The Empress"
"The Britannia"
"The Prince Albert" ( Piercing parlour to the rear....Fnar! Fnar!)

Catch you later, I'm going to have another look at that steam hansom cab.....

Regards
PM
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Malamute on July 28, 2008, 06:32:07 PM
Are you not going to call it the Ten Bells? ;)
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on July 30, 2008, 07:25:02 PM
Hi All,
    I think I will wait 'till the pub is finished before naming it, NO PM it's not going to be the Randy Badger lol lol.
   Well I did the water and it is really good and easy, and doesn't react to matte cote. Here is a close up of it.

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/londontown014.jpg)

Next up is the Amera church half way done

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/londontown012.jpg)

 Now especially for Malamute here is an overview of the town so far.

    After Guedens irrisonsible bombing of PMs steamcoach the townsfolk have been busy rebuilding the damaged buildings. Only the fountain managed to avoid major damage. Unfortunately the bombs opened an anomoly allowing some dinosaurs to come through to the town.
  Luckily a squad of the army were scouting out new drinking holesin the area and responded rappidly.

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/londontown007.jpg)

Hearing the calls for help and distress rockets a Naval squad hitched a lift on a paddle steamer taking a group of hunters off on safari (at Longleat ???)They docked the far side of the newly painted policestation. The local bobbies turn out for appearances as well

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/londontown006.jpg)

Here 2 Stegosaurus' wander up past the Pub
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/londontown010.jpg)

Looking up over the dock
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/londontown015.jpg)

And finally down a side road 3 gents seem to be having a problem lol
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fritzy13/londontown009.jpg)
 Hope you enjoy the pics, it was the first time I've seen them all together as well.
   Now for 4 days away then back to refinishing with a vengence.

  Thanks as always for your encouragement

Cheers

Fritzy

Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: archangel1 on July 30, 2008, 07:36:19 PM
That's quite the town! Even has a land sailing steamer! Sorry, though.  Your stegosaurs are Trikes!
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Skrapwelder on July 30, 2008, 08:02:43 PM
Very nice. What are the approximate table dimensions for your town?
Is that one of the infamous "Crystal Wedding Favor Princess Carriages" I see in several pictures?
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Ray Rivers on July 30, 2008, 08:11:53 PM
Truly awesome board you are making there.

You're going to have some really lovely punch ups!
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: odd duck on July 30, 2008, 10:16:42 PM
AAHHH!! :o :o I was waiting for the big picture!Looks REALLY GOOD!!  :-*I guess you'll be starting the roofs, doors,and windows soon?You've got a heck of a lot of windows there! :?Looking forward to seeing how you handle it they've been a bit of a problem for me.
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Malamute on July 31, 2008, 08:29:13 AM
Fritzy, that is looking most impressive. I really like the way it all goes togetehr and the docks is coing together well too. Good to see the Doctors, is the third one a David Tennant lookalike? ;)
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Bullshott on July 31, 2008, 12:43:18 PM
Fritzy
Very impressive board. I look forward to seeing the completed set-up and some reports of battles fought over it.

I see you used the Amera church. I have some of their ruins that (with a bit of detailing) have painted-up well. I would be interested in your comments about assembly of the church
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: thejammedgatling on July 31, 2008, 01:42:15 PM
Lovely stuff here. I love the sense of total anarchy in the battle presented. Should be fun to work out who wins..
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on August 04, 2008, 04:33:49 PM
Hi Guys,
      Yes OOps with the dinos, in a rush I got it all done then wiped the lot trying to change something, then in redoing it I misnamed them.
 Malamute the doctors are Tom Baker, John Pertwee, and yes finally one of yours, with the tardis' painted by PM.
    The Amera church was ok but alot of awkward joins, especially the butresses but good value for money(£10 I think).
     Scrapwelder, the table set up is about 1.2m x 1.6m and indeed it is a wedding favour carriage.
   Now I'm back from my long weekend I am cutting balsa down to size for the windows and doors. The rooves are going to be oo guage roof pieces scanned and enlarged to save some time, I know I'm getting lazy but I still have all the townsfolk to paint up.
       Thanks for the encouragement, now back to work, and maybe build something else when I get fed up with doing windows. 
        cheers
Fritzy
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: commissarmoody on August 04, 2008, 04:42:48 PM
vary nice so far Fritzy
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Dan on August 05, 2008, 10:39:48 AM
Hi Fritzy your town is looking good .

Who makes the Tardis model ? I want one but dont want the interior that goes with the Blacktree version.
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: revford on August 05, 2008, 11:08:47 AM
Looks like the old Ainsty one.  I think Old Crow carry them now, but I couldn't find them on a quick search of the website:

http://www.oldcrowmodels.co.uk/
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: twrchtrwyth on August 06, 2008, 05:30:20 PM
Where did you get your carriage from Fritzy?

Your town is coming along great. 8)
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: fritzy on August 09, 2008, 09:48:08 AM
Hi guys,
    Not enough progress to show, been painting instead.
  Twrchtrwyth I got it from Krysties on Ebay(wedding gifts). I will try to find the address for you.
   Dan, the tardis is from old crow but you have to ask him for it. I have just got a length of 'O' guage rail track and some station accessories for the next building when I get planning permission lol.
     Cheers

      Fritzy

PS. The water effect is a pleasure to use and was so easy I couldn't believe it. Go get some.
Title: Re: Fritzys new old London Town
Post by: Dan on August 12, 2008, 11:10:28 AM
Thanks , I had a look at the Old Crow site and see many things that I need to buy  ;) I just need to save some money first as it could be a very long list. :-*