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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: gringo on February 13, 2014, 12:11:53 AM
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im looking to build up a Medieval army or two in 28mm for the late Henry 111 / Edward "longshanks" period.......not really my area of expertise so
looking for advice on the castings available...pre-plate era i believe ..all
those castles to assault..and all that mail!!
its a break from my normal hunting grounds so all help appreciated! :D
regards
Ged
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im looking to build up a Medieval army or two in 28mm for the late Henry 111 / Edward "longshanks" period.......not really my area of expertise so
looking for advice on the castings available...pre-plate era i believe ..all
those castles to assault..and all that mail!!
its a break from my normal hunting grounds so all help appreciated! :D
regards
Ged
www.gringo40s.com
www.gringo40s.blogspot.com
hi Ged,
I've got very limited time at the moment but if you take a peek at the following link, you'll find some basic info:
http://world4.eu/armour-in-england-from-the-10th-to-the-18th-century/
Depending on when you want part of the reign of Henry III you want the miniatures, the the Crusader here would do (for later on):
http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/list.php?cat=5&sub=56&page=1
Darrell.
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Darrell
good man......many thanks ;)
best regards
Ged
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Agreed, Darrell - less the Teutonics with the hat racks on their heads lol
For knights: Full helms, extra protection on knees and elbows, shoulder plates, introduction of breastplates (hidden by short surcoat), heater shields.
Serjeants: similar, with fewer full helms, but more kettle helms.
Foot: Welsh long spears and longbows, Border longbows and English spearman and crossbowmen.
The assizes of Henry III give an example review of what the king wanted to have ;)
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=hdh4Elj-3WEC&pg=PA177&lpg=PA177&dq=assize+of+arms+1252&source=bl&ots=kBp9zeRUvR&sig=W3_JEatiYZxDCSP2v_Cvo47OK8c&hl=en&ei=p70-TNbFA6L20gSIkYmUBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CDQQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=assize%20of%20arms%201252&f=false (http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=hdh4Elj-3WEC&pg=PA177&lpg=PA177&dq=assize+of+arms+1252&source=bl&ots=kBp9zeRUvR&sig=W3_JEatiYZxDCSP2v_Cvo47OK8c&hl=en&ei=p70-TNbFA6L20gSIkYmUBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CDQQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=assize%20of%20arms%201252&f=false)
Not a perfect translation, sickles should read falchions, and a gisarme is a blade carried on a long shaft, ie a proto halberd.
edit smelling mistokes!
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I think the Fireforge plastics could be useful for this project.
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Janner some fascianting information there.many thanks!! ;)
Mick.......good suggestion...........
reagrds
Ged
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Agreed, Darrell - less the Teutonics with the hat racks on their heads lol
Yeah, best not include the Teutonics, though you could do some head swaps and have some cloaked kniggets trotting about ion then battlefield.
I think the Fireforge plastics could be useful for this project.
Yeah, they would work just as well, though some can be a bit too 'heroic' looking for me. Their foot are good though and would be especially good for converting to long spears..
Darrell.
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Darrell
your right i will avoid the Teutonic look as i would like my
guys to look "gritty" and battleworn ....possibly a "crusade" scenario..
or maybe a Castle attack first!
:)regards
Ged
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Darrell
your right i will avoid the Teutonic look as i would like my
guys to look "gritty" and battleworn ....possibly a "crusade" scenario..
or maybe a Castle attack first!
:)regards
Ged
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Go for it Ged! A siege sounds like a good starting place.
Darrell.
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Ebob Miniatures do a sculpt of Edward the 1st both mounted and dismounted and some foot that may be of some use from their Rebellion range
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Ebob Miniatures do a sculpt of Edward the 1st both mounted and dismounted and some foot that may be of some use from their Rebellion range
Ged,
The only thing I would add to that is that the range is quite close to 25mm and quite slight in build also. Nothing wrong with that of course but there would be compatibility issues with other ranges.
Darrell.
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Look at our figure on http://crossedlances.com/ it might be what you want.
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Look at our figure on http://crossedlances.com/ it might be what you want.
Doh! Of course! How did I forget??? o_o
The Curteys 13th C range is full of great mini's that would be great for the period in question too.
Darrell.
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thanks crosslances.very nice.....saw the game at the
Derby show................. :D
and enjoyed it very much with Mrs Gringo.....Peter was a great host! :)
regards
Ged
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Hi Ged,
This product will save you a lot of time.
http://curteysminiatures.co.uk/shop/feudal/ed-04-edward-i-malleus-scottorum/ (http://curteysminiatures.co.uk/shop/feudal/ed-04-edward-i-malleus-scottorum/)
Regards,
Matt
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cheers matt!! ;)
regards
Ged
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Just in case you're interested, I painted Edward I mounted, on foot, and landing on the ground after coming off his horse earlier in the week and wrote the painting guide up on the Sally 4th hobby pages. http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/epages/950003459.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/950003459/Categories/Hobby_Pages/Crossed_Lances_Medieval_Jousting_Hobby_Page (http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/epages/950003459.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/950003459/Categories/Hobby_Pages/Crossed_Lances_Medieval_Jousting_Hobby_Page)
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http://claymorecastings.co.uk/
Check out claymore castings also. They are making some pretty decent figures for this era.
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http://claymorecastings.co.uk/
Check out claymore castings also. They are making some pretty decent figures for this era.
Agreed, some of the foot-types will work, but the plate armour is about a century out.
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Agreed, some of the foot-types will work, but the plate armour is about a century out.
I'm afraid Janner is correct about the plate armour.
Darrell.
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I'm going to be using this figure below from Trent Miniatures to represent Llywelyn the Last (Llywelyn ap Gruffydd to his mates).
http://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=2017 (http://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=2017)
There is a alternative bareheaded version.
http://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=2848 (http://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=2848)
He'll be battling my Edward I figure (a Curteys Miniatures model) in skirmishes using the upcoming Lion Rampant rules.
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I'm going to be using this figure below from Trent Miniatures to represent Llywelyn the Last (Llywelyn ap Gruffydd to his mates).
http://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=2017 (http://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=2017)
There is a alternative bareheaded version.
http://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=2848 (http://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=2848)
He'll be battling my Edward I figure (a Curteys Miniatures model) in skirmishes using the upcoming Lion Rampant rules.
Man, if I had a pound for every time I've painted one or both of those miniatures for a client!! :D
Great mini's though.... they must be!
Darrell.
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You only charge £1 :o
Cheap as chips you lol lol
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great feedback guys............the thread is starting to blossom!! :D
regards
Ged
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I really hope that is a £1 extra Darrell for your sake mate....imagine there will be a massive rush of orders if thats all you charge for a 28mm mounted Medieval ;) but no doubt there would be some total 'chancers' who would try to take you up on it if they could :-[.
I knew of some painters who charged £25 and over per painted 28mm mounted knight in the late 90's but with the amount of work that goes into it the collectors were still getting a bargin and considering a collectors standard miniature paint job can take a whole day to paint even then that price seemed far too low.
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I really hope that is a £1 extra Darrell for your sake mate....imagine there will be a massive rush of orders if thats all you charge for a 28mm mounted Medieval ;) but no doubt there would be some total 'chancers' who would try to take you up on it if they could :-[.
Certainly over £1!!! lol always charge extra for heraldry on the mini, banners and standards etc :D
I knew of some painters who charged £25 and over per painted 28mm mounted knight in the late 90's but with the amount of work that goes into it the collectors were still getting a bargin and considering a collectors standard miniature paint job can take a whole day to paint even then that price seemed far too low.
Yeah, I think that many folks just don't appreciate how much work goes into a decently painted miniature at times.
It can be a thankless job... I'm giving it up after I've caught up with all my orders. (I'm behind due to serious illness sadly, though I am more or less OK now- my enthusiasm for the hobby has returned :))