Lead Adventure Forum

Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: pocoloco on March 29, 2014, 01:29:53 PM

Title: Pocoloco's terrain making...
Post by: pocoloco on March 29, 2014, 01:29:53 PM
Hello LAFers,

here's the result of my first attempt at teddy fur terrain making. I guess it will trial by error way for me to get things rolling to the direction I have envisaged them to go. I was aiming to create a smallish (60cm x 60cm first) jungle type of board where the undergrowth (painted teddy fur) is in place and trees will be placed here and there for the game play depending on scenario etc.

Other terrain types included are gravel/earth road and paved road. I was hoping that I could use this kind of terrain for my 20mm ImagiNation project (see here if interested: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=64112.0 ) but I think this works better (at least in its current state) for 28mm than 20mm, I guess I should have cut the teddy fur shorter but then I might have just used normal terrain mat for that.

Here are some pics:

First one showing "aerial" view with 1/76 Airfix airfield control tower

(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j384/pocolocopocoloco/kuva4_zpsd11605fc.jpg) (http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/pocolocopocoloco/media/kuva4_zpsd11605fc.jpg.html)

Next ones showing 1/76 Oxford VW vans:
(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j384/pocolocopocoloco/kuva2-2_zpsf37f7166.jpg) (http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/pocolocopocoloco/media/kuva2-2_zpsf37f7166.jpg.html)

(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j384/pocolocopocoloco/kuva2_zps63251a5a.jpg) (http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/pocolocopocoloco/media/kuva2_zps63251a5a.jpg.html)

(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j384/pocolocopocoloco/kuva1_zpsa8a23f99.jpg) (http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/pocolocopocoloco/media/kuva1_zpsa8a23f99.jpg.html)

Then next are pics with 288mm minis:
(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j384/pocolocopocoloco/kuva3_zps2bb3bf08.jpg) (http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/pocolocopocoloco/media/kuva3_zps2bb3bf08.jpg.html)

(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j384/pocolocopocoloco/kuva3-2_zpsae35d2b5.jpg) (http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/pocolocopocoloco/media/kuva3-2_zpsae35d2b5.jpg.html)

(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j384/pocolocopocoloco/kuva5_zps0c689997.jpg) (http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/pocolocopocoloco/media/kuva5_zps0c689997.jpg.html)

I think I will try later (during summer) this method:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=31358.msg505069#msg505069

Cheers for checking, comments and suggestions more than welcome!

Title: Re: Pocoloco's (fumbled) attempt at teddy fur terrain making...
Post by: OSHIROmodels on March 29, 2014, 01:35:12 PM
Doesn't look to bad mate.

I would suggest a different green as that one is a bit vibrant, also, is it possible to tease the strads out a bit and not have them as clumped as it looks like you over saturated the fur with paint.

A drybrush of a lighter and toned down green might help and you could also add a bit of variety with some tans and browns in the drybrushing.

Getting some vegetation on there will also help to break it up a bit.

 :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Pocoloco's (fumbled) attempt at teddy fur terrain making...
Post by: pocoloco on March 29, 2014, 04:29:22 PM
Cheers James for feedback.

My misses said the same about the green that I have used :)

I think I should have combed the green into the fur in the first place, now it is, like you mentioned, way too clumped. But I think I should have also cut the fur tad shorter also… well, it's fail and learn with this :D

Need to try the toned down greens.

But I'm quite happy with the paved and dirt roads bits… then again, they are not that hard to do anyways :)

Cheers,

Antti
Title: Re: Pocoloco's (fumbled) attempt at teddy fur terrain making...
Post by: Too Bo Coo on March 29, 2014, 04:36:49 PM
Ditto on the green, but otherwise, nice stuff!
Title: Re: Pocoloco's (fumbled) attempt at teddy fur terrain making...
Post by: Dewbakuk on March 29, 2014, 06:21:19 PM
I went to a model railroad show to take a look at teddy bear fur the other week. Apparently the stuff we're getting now is rubbish for our needs. The colours are difficult to cover properly and the fur is about half as dense as it used to be. Some fantastic layouts using it though. The longest setting used on their clippers was a grade one. Everything else was done with scissors or with the guards off.
Title: Re: Pocoloco's (fumbled) attempt at teddy fur terrain making...
Post by: FramFramson on March 29, 2014, 11:42:37 PM
I've done some tentative teddy fur experiments.

When I overdid it with the paint, we pulled out the big steel cat comb and combed the fur - worked great!
Title: Re: Pocoloco's (fumbled) attempt at teddy fur terrain making...
Post by: OSHIROmodels on March 30, 2014, 07:25:28 AM
I went to a model railroad show to take a look at teddy bear fur the other week. Apparently the stuff we're getting now is rubbish for our needs.

Not surprised at that really  :?

cheers

James
Title: Re: Pocoloco's (fumbled) attempt at teddy fur terrain making...
Post by: Hammers on March 30, 2014, 08:54:45 AM
Doesn't look to bad mate.

I would suggest a different green as that one is a bit vibrant, also, is it possible to tease the strads out a bit and not have them as clumped as it looks like you over saturated the fur with paint.


My thoughts to. Teh green you have chosen has to much blue in it, pulling towards viridian. Also, spray paint on top a basic color with patches of alternating shades will make it look more natural. Keeping it darker around rocks, trees and in ditches also helps for a more natural look.
Title: Re: Pocoloco's (fumbled) attempt at teddy fur terrain making...
Post by: pocoloco on March 30, 2014, 10:53:10 AM
Thanks chaps, will try out the different suggestions on it.

Colourwise I was trying to achieve a lush jungle undergrowth type of feel to it… I think I need to ask colour consultation from my missus and you gentlemen :)

I bought a piece (120cm x 100cm) of white teddy fur from a "linen draper" (actually a chain of shops that sell textiles, buttons, needles etc), cost me bit under 20 euros at that.
Title: Re: Pocoloco's (fumbled) attempt at teddy fur terrain making...
Post by: Hammers on March 30, 2014, 12:03:45 PM
Thanks chaps, will try out the different suggestions on it.

Colourwise I was trying to achieve a lush jungle undergrowth type of feel to it… I think I need to ask colour consultation from my misses and you gentlemen :)

I bought a piece (120cm x 100cm) of white teddy fur from a "linen draper" (actually a chain of shops that sell textiles, buttons, needles etc), cost me bit under 20 euros at that.

Colors are not always easy and photographs do not always concur with the eye.
Title: Re: Pocoloco's (fumbled) attempt at teddy fur terrain making...
Post by: Daeothar on March 31, 2014, 12:28:20 PM
it certainly is a great start!

When I did my first attempt, I used a really long haired light brown version, which looks like dried grass. I cut the entire thing with sissors, as I felt that gave me the best control. It also helped in making it uneven, which is, after all, exactly what we're after.

As opposed to you, I simply drybrushed the grass. I mixed small batches of paint each time, so I had to mix it again and again, resulting in subtle shade differences each time, which helps. And even though I was very careful to not build up the paint too fast, it still happened, with the same results you have there.

So (like for many others apparently ;) ) the cat brush helped a great deal in combing out the clumps.

I did it all in one afternoon in the backyard, and I sort of felt like a barber there; cutting, dyeing and brushing... lol

All in all, the results of teddy fur used for terrain are pretty convincing if you ask me, and your result is already pretty good, although I concur with the observations that the grass is a bit too blue in hue right now. but that could also very well be the lighting...