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Miniatures Adventure => Adventures in the Far East => Topic started by: Craig on May 18, 2014, 07:51:16 AM
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To save clogging up the board I shall be restricting all my posts on Daishō to this single thread.
It is here I shall update you with new posts on the blog, discuss any topics related to Daishō you might like to raise and answer your questions.
For those of you who are not aware of this new game, Daishō are a set of skirmish rules which are set in a mythical vision of Japan. They are based upon the very successful In Her Majesty's Name series of skirmish rules and are in the process of being written by Charles Murton and myself.
The game's blog is here: http://daishogame.wordpress.com/. This is being updated weekly with notes on our design process and the thinking behind many of the unique elements of this game.
I look forwards to chatting with you :)
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The latest Daishō Design Notes is now on the blog:
http://daishogame.wordpress.com/2014/05/23/daisho-design-notes-23052014/
In this entry we discuss how we are introducing a set of rules to cover the gaining and losing of On (honour) during a game and how this may lead to victory or even Seppuku.
We'd be interested in your thoughts on this central theme in the game.
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The next design notes article is up on the blog.
http://daishogame.wordpress.com/2014/05/25/daisho-design-notes-25052014/
This explores how using all the new options in the rules allows you to create an interesting and potent Buntai. The first draft of the Sōhei Buntai is used as an example.
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This week we are showing you a fantastic figure sculpt done for us by our friend Duncan Louca.
The subject is the legendary half-Oni warrior monk Benkei.
http://daishogame.wordpress.com/2014/06/14/benkei/
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Well the Benkei figure has now been printed and painted, and is now just waiting for its final assembly:
http://daishogame.wordpress.com/2014/06/17/benkei-ii/
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Where if anywhere will the model be available from?
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Well the Benkei figure has now been printed and painted, and is now just waiting for its final assembly:
http://daishogame.wordpress.com/2014/06/17/benkei-ii/
Not really sure if I like the idea of him with horns, all of the statues and such seemed to point to him just being a, well, giant of a man...making him directly inhuman kind of feels like it defeats the purpose of how he died.
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Not really sure if I like the idea of him with horns, all of the statues and such seemed to point to him just being a, well, giant of a man...making him directly inhuman kind of feels like it defeats the purpose of how he died.
Benkei was said, in some versions of his legend, to be half-Oni. In Japanese eyes this made him even more heroic as he had to overcome his demonic nature to become an icon of honour and self-sacrifice.
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Where if anywhere will the model be available from?
This is still up for discussion. We are hoping that the exposure this gets Duncan will bring him more work.
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If you have been following the development of the Benkei figure, the fully painted version is now up on the b log for you all to drool over :)
http://daishogame.wordpress.com/2014/06/19/benkei-iii/
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Wow that's really very nice.
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So, the latest section of the rules to be fully drafted is the Bestiary. If you want to know more about how we approached this pivotal section and the sort of creatures you can expect to find in it you could read this:
http://daishogame.wordpress.com/2014/06/28/if-you-go-down-to-the-woods-today-it-maybe-your-turn-to-die/
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Thanks for sharing.
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The latest set of design notes is now up on the blog. This time I am discussing how we are going about choosing the Buntai we shall include in the core rules.
http://daishogame.wordpress.com/2014/06/30/daisho-design-notes-30062014/
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Its certainly worth using whats available miniatures wise to base your buntai off too. Especially if there are no plans for an accompanying miniatures range. No point doing a buntai of a certain Yokai if there is not a single decent miniature to represent said Yokai.
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Its certainly worth using whats available miniatures wise to base your buntai off too. Especially if there are no plans for an accompanying miniatures range. No point doing a buntai of a certain Yokai if there is not a single decent miniature to represent said Yokai.
You say that but we have found that the players of IHMN have risen to the challenge and converted and adapted lots of different figures to match ones we have written up but for which there were no commercial equivalents :)
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On the blog the latest design notes looks at the Heroes of Nippon. These are very special individuals that Buntai can hire on a single mission basis. Each Buntai will have access to 2-3 suitable individual heroes. You can read more here:
http://daishogame.wordpress.com/2014/07/05/daisho-design-notes-05-07-2014-heroes-of-nippon/
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Our apologies for the long spell between postings but I don't like to write posts just to fill white space.
This weekend we shall be travelling across the UK to my co-author Charles' grand residence.
On Sunday several of our good friends shall also be visiting to run the first full playtests of Daisho.
Although the core of the rules is based on the successful In Her Majesty's Name skirmish system there have been numerous changes, tweaks and new material added to ensure that it is thoroughly Samurai from its toes up.
We shall have some painted and part-painted forces we do not have any Japanese terrain yet. We have been just to busy writing to get anything done. I shall, of course, produce a report and some photographs.
After that there will be a review, possibly a short rewrite, and then we'll be sending playtest rules packs out to our volunteer play-testers (fine chaps all). So expect more reports in late September and through into October.
Serious talks with a possible publisher are underway and once we have a deal we shall reveal them to you.
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We shall have some painted and part-painted forces we do not have any Japanese terrain yet. We have been just to busy writing to get anything done.
If you're looking for Japanese terrain I'd recommend http://www.oshiromodelterrain.co.uk (http://www.oshiromodelterrain.co.uk) by the LAF's own Jimbibbly, it really is superb:
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/samurai/Battle%20reports/5d5aea171b1fde9dccc88d18d71f71c0_zpse9378ee1.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/samurai/Battle%20reports/b01f856709651405ae88e7e68bd3e1bc_zpsef73f306.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/samurai/Battle%20reports/cece08c7a0522c66998dc2158c2a58a8_zpsca7b778b.jpg)
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Gotta agree with that. Can't think of any better terrain on the market. If you don't want to paint the 4ground stuff is pretty decent but oshiro would be my go to for future terrain after sampling some of their buildings.
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That is seriously nice terrain gentlemen. I'm off to the site now to ogle it :)
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Gentlemen,
Having toured the site I cannot find out if these are Solid Resin or MDF kits (though I suspect the former).
As Daisho is a skirmish game we'd be looking at being able to fight inside buildings as well as around them.
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They are solid resin.
Check out 4 ground if you want buildings you can enter.
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Our apologies for the long spell between postings but I don't like to write posts just to fill white space.
This weekend we shall be travelling across the UK to my co-author Charles' grand residence.
On Sunday several of our good friends shall also be visiting to run the first full playtests of Daisho.
Although the core of the rules is based on the successful In Her Majesty's Name skirmish system there have been numerous changes, tweaks and new material added to ensure that it is thoroughly Samurai from its toes up.
We shall have some painted and part-painted forces we do not have any Japanese terrain yet. We have been just to busy writing to get anything done. I shall, of course, produce a report and some photographs.
After that there will be a review, possibly a short rewrite, and then we'll be sending playtest rules packs out to our volunteer play-testers (fine chaps all). So expect more reports in late September and through into October.
Serious talks with a possible publisher are underway and once we have a deal we shall reveal them to you.
For terrain options, there's a pretty good list on the Ronin forums (http://roninskirmishrules.freeforums.org/sticky-topic-scenery-for-ronin-games-t5.html) that's pretty good.
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Thanks. I didn't know that there was a dedicated Ronin forum. I'll have to check it out.
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The report on the first playtest of the Daishō rules is now on the Daishō blog :
http://daishogame.wordpress.com/2014/09/02/the-first-playtest-of-the-rules/
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The work on the Playtest beta Rules continues unabated. For this and other news:
http://daishogame.wordpress.com/2014/09/18/daisho-progress/
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Thank you for keeping the info comeing.
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Once we get some playtest reports in there'll be a lot more to share :)
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The latest design notes discusses the creation of the Tengu buntai:
http://daishogame.wordpress.com/2014/09/20/designing-the-buntai-the-tengu/
(https://daishogame.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/tengu-1.png)
How would you interpret the Tengu for a skirmish game?
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The Tengu I imagine to be skilled swords men with fast movement and the ability to ignore or at least be less effected by difficult terrain or other obstacles.
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The Tengu I imagine to be skilled swords men with fast movement and the ability to ignore or at least be less effected by difficult terrain or other obstacles.
Sounds very much like what we are working up :D
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Our latest article in the Design Notes series addresses one of the unique aspects of this rules series - The Landscapes.
http://daishogame.wordpress.com/2014/09/27/design-notes-landscapes/
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In this week's design notes we cover the creation of scenarios and scenario complications in the rules:
http://daishogame.wordpress.com/2014/10/12/design-notes-scenarios-and-complications/
In other news the Playtest Beta rules are now out with out reviewers and playtesters. Hopefully we should soon have some battle reports to share.
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I really look forward for your project, guys. Since I found your blog you even made it to one of my favorite bookmarks. :D
I like the idea of On in special scenarios and in special landscapes. It gives the game a certain Japanese style. Recently I started a new Samurai project and I look forward on fielding them together with Onis and other Fantasy-creatures.
Will there be the possibility to build your own creatures? For example i want to use the Shisa from Bushido with my Sōhei.
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The latest update in Daisho is now on the blog, in which we provide news on the progress of the rules, publication and Salute 2015.
http://daishogame.wordpress.com/2014/10/19/daisho-update-2/
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I really look forward for your project, guys. Since I found your blog you even made it to one of my favorite bookmarks. :D
I like the idea of On in special scenarios and in special landscapes. It gives the game a certain Japanese style. Recently I started a new Samurai project and I look forward on fielding them together with Onis and other Fantasy-creatures.
Will there be the possibility to build your own creatures? For example i want to use the Shisa from Bushido with my Sōhei.
A full points system will be available for you to use to build your own unique buntai and creatures. This was a very popular feature in our previous game - In Her Majesty's Name, and one we shall be reproducing here.
As it happens the Shishi Lion Dogs already feature in the Daisho bestiary, if that is what you are after?
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I posted a reply on your blog, but thought I'd put something here also.
For anyone that has the computer game GuildWars (the original, not GW2), the Factions expansion has a lot of areas that would inspire the terrain scratchbuilders. Rural monasteries, Imperial City, shrines, villages, etc.
Not "historical" but introducing fantasy elements into a game like Daisho gives some artistic license to mishmash the terrain a bit, IMHO.
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Our next instalment of the series of design notes is now up on the blog. This one covers the development of the Campaign rules.
http://daishogame.wordpress.com/2014/11/11/design-notes-campaigns/
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Time for a quick update…
The manuscript of the rules, all 45,000 words of it, is now in Norway with our Viking layout artist. He is spending the next two weeks laying it out for us with the clear mandate to be clean and clear. At this time, it’s looking like it shall be A4 and 90-100 pages of oriental goodness.
Meanwhile, we are wading through hundreds of photographs provided by our good friends Guy Bowers and Nick Eyre (courtesy of Kev Dallimore).
Once the layout is done it will be off to Lithuania to be printed, bound and then back to blighty in time for Salute 2015 (fingers crossed).
Speaking of which we have had notification of our stand location – GF16. This puts our three participation games next door to Oshiro Model Terrain’s Japanese demo game, which is a lovely coincidence. If you are going be sure to drop in and see us.
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Any timeline for ordering a copy for those who can't go?
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Any timeline for ordering a copy for those who can't go?
We have quite a tight schedule on printing so our distributor, North Star Miniatures, will not receive the first print run until a week before Salute. So I expect it will be around the end of April.
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So here’s the thing, and it’s a good thing;
– the rules are finished,
– they are being laid out as I write this by my artistic little brother,
– we have all the photos we need (thanks Nick & Guy),
– we have a name for our own imprint, just sorting out the logo,
– I’m well into building two of demo boards for Salute and Hong Kong Bill is beavering away on the other,
– Buntai are being painted,
– the printer is all ready to go and just needs the laid-out copy,
– North Star are waiting patiently for the books to arrive.
It’s all happening!
The name of our imprint for this and future games is The Ministry of Gentlemanly Warfare. We think this neatly sums up our approach to gaming and is pretty cool too :)
Easter weekend is a marathon village and monastery building session, so watch this space for regular updates.
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Will you be offering a digital version? I can't remember if I have asked this yet.
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Will you be offering a digital version? I can't remember if I have asked this yet.
Hi Carlos,
At this time, we have no plans for a digital version.
Unlike the In Her Majesty's Name series, where Osprey made all the investment, we are funding this book ourselves. We are also organising the editing, layout and printing ourselves, so we have concentrated on one format for the time being.
If it takes off then we shall revisit the idea of a digital version.
If you are worried about availability outside the UK we can assure you that our distributor, North Star, has both global partners and an excellent track record in its postal service.
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I am within the uk anyway so that's not a problem. Just have most of my rulebooks on my iPad so it's convenient. Will pick up a copy either way.
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Thanks, Carlos :D
There is also the new digital product directive in the EU. If you sell a digital book to a person in say Austria you must charge them the VAT rate for that country and pay the Revenue service in that country.
So if we sell 200 books to 25 different EU countries we must find out where each customer is from, find out the VAT rate for that country and send the VAT to each country's government.
A law aimed at foiling tax avoidance and money laundering may kill small scale digital products and companies. >:(
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Salute 2015 - we shall be ther in force running three participation board for Daisho.
You can find us on the map below under the bowler hat:
(https://daishogame.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/daisho-location-salute-2015.png)
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Thanks, Carlos :D
There is also the new digital product directive in the EU. If you sell a digital book to a person in say Austria you must charge them the VAT rate for that country and pay the Revenue service in that country.
So if we sell 200 books to 25 different EU countries we must find out where each customer is from, find out the VAT rate for that country and send the VAT to each country's government.
A law aimed at foiling tax avoidance and money laundering may kill small scale digital products and companies. >:(
Yeah that seems like a lot of work.
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Yeah that seems like a lot of work.
I think it is nearly impossible with the men-power of a small company find out all the goverment tax office and their bank accounts. So, no more digital or you have to use wargamesvault. Brave new european world.... :-[
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I am going to try to get to salute this year and check out both yours and jimbibbly's tables.
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The excellent Wargames, News & Terrain hsve featured the launch of Daisho:
http://wargameterrain.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/the-ministry-of-gentlemanly-warfare.html
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A copy will be available to pick up at saulte? Bought my tickets earlier in the week.
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A copy will be available to pick up at saulte? Bought my tickets earlier in the week.
Unfortunately no. Being first timers in the publishing industry we did not realise how long layout took so the printers shall be delivering the first print run to North Star in May.
There shall be copies of the rules to peruse though at the participation game.
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I have just put up the contents page from the book for your delectation:
https://daishogame.wordpress.com/2015/04/19/so-whats-in-the-book-then/ :D
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Unfortunately no. Being first timers in the publishing industry we did not realise how long layout took so the printers shall be delivering the first print run to North Star in May.
There shall be copies of the rules to peruse though at the participation game.
That's a shame but understandable bet publishing this yourself has been a learning experence. Will pop buy and say hello with the misses and have a browse through anyway if I get a chance.
Painting up some Samurai stuff atm and once that is done I might try to set up a participation games with some other guys at the LFGS for Daisho and Ronin so we can learn the rules.
Samurai vs Bandits for Ronin and Sohei vs Oni for Daisho sounds good.
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So here we are, the end of May and still no Daisho. Who knew that layout could be so complex? Well, obviously not us it seems. :o
The plan now is to have the completed copy off to the printers this coming weekend. With a 2-3 week turnaround for printing and delivery, North Star should then have the books before the end of June – 2015 :)
If you can stand a little more bad news I have had to cancel my appearance at Partizan on Sunday. A family matter has arisen which means that I cannot attend.
I am now waiting for the third disaster…. :-[
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End of next month then? Might actually have two forces ready by then.
Hope the family thing works out mate.
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Ladies & Gentlemen,
It is with great pleasure that we can announce that Daishō is now in the care of our printers in Lithuania. With luck and a fair wind, this means that the first delivery of Daishō should arrive with the splendid crew at North Star Miniatures in just three weeks’ time.
So now is time for you to dive into your lead mountains and dig out those samurai, ronin, monks and ninja figures. Dust them off and get some paint on them because the game you have been waiting for is almost here.
(https://daishogame.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/daisho-cover-6.png)
Here is the blurb from the back cover of the book:
Have you ever wanted to replicate the incredible feats of swordsmanship you see in movies like 47 Ronin and 13 Assassins? Stand surrounded by half a dozen angry Ashigaru and then, in a single fluid motion, strike them all down?
Bring forth fiery darts from heaven and hurl them at your enemies? Face demons from the pits of hell? Disarm and hammer an arrogant Samurai lord into the dust with your bare hands?
You can do this and much more if you play Daishō, skirmish wargaming in mythical Nippon.
This game allows players to field forces of five to fifteen miniatures in a game you can easily complete in an evening on a space only a yard square. The rules are short and simple to learn – few players need to refer to them after their second or third game.
This book provides:
• The core rules of play.
• The complete points system so you can create your own forces.
• Full listings for twelve unique forces.
• Armour, weapons and equipment, both mundane and magical.
• Listings of skills, heroic ki powers and magical powers.
• Fifteen scenarios, supported by seventeen scenario complications.
• Ten detailed landscapes for you to play across, and
• Simple, yet rewarding campaign rules.
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Hopefully I get my Koreans done by then.
I realise this is going to be highly subjective depending on how you build the characters but how many samurai / ashigaru do you think an Oni would be worth points wise.
As I would like to paint up an Oni force too as thru are quick to paint but unsure of roughly how many I would require.
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As I would like to paint up an Oni force too as thru are quick to paint but unsure of roughly how many I would require.
An ordinary Oni Warrior comes in at around 52 points, a normal samurai bushi at around 25-35 points and an ashigaru at around 15-20 points. These are all without special skills or exceptional equipment.
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So one Oni is very roughly 2 samurai or three Ashigaru.
6 or 7 Should be plenty then.
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You could take 2-3 then round out the raiding party with bakemono :)
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Sure but then i would have to buy more Bakemono only own one atm. Certianly an option for the future.
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It is worth pointing out that there are five types of Oni in Daisho: Lord, Magi, Warrior, Shapechanger and Beast. :D
So you shall be spoiled for choice...
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Taking pre-orders for Daisho now, hopefully shipping next week.
http://northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=7585
Nick
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Rules cover the Bakumatsu?
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After having fun at salute playing this it was a no brainier. Ordered.
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Rules cover the Bakumatsu?
The rules do not have a set time period. If you want medieval, then don't use Teppo. If you want Tokugawa Shogunate, reduce the amount of armour. If you want Bakumatsu just add a few more modern weapons from Daisho's stablemate, In Her Majesty's Name.
Daisho lets you play at three levels;
1. Historical (i.e. Kagemusha), you just ignore all the mystical and extraordinary skills and creatures.
2. Heroic (i.e. 13 Assassins), add in the rules for heroes channelling their Ki to perform extraordinary feats.
3. Legendary (i.e. 47 Ronin), use the full set of magical powers and mythical creatures.
With an open points system you will be able to develop and field pretty much anything you want, you are not stuck with the buntai and creatures published in the book. If this goes the way of IHMN then we and the players shall be devising heaps of extra, free, material over the coming months and years.
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Whats the most advanced weaponry they have in Daisho? Does it go as far as revolvers and rifles in terms of gunpowder or is teppo about as far as it goes?
If all goes well and you can support it in the future a Boshin war supplement / additional items/skills download would be awesome.
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Available at Devizes???
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Whats the most advanced weaponry they have in Daisho? Does it go as far as revolvers and rifles in terms of gunpowder or is teppo about as far as it goes?
If all goes well and you can support it in the future a Boshin war supplement / additional items/skills download would be awesome.
The Teppo is the most advanced weapon in Daisho.
However, as it is based around the same core rules as In Her Majesty's Name, you can just pop to the IHMN blog and download the IHMN reference sheet - https://inhermajestysname.wordpress.com/additional-material/. This will give you all the 19th century weapons stats you could want.
There again the Japanese Imperial Army and several other 19th century Japanese companies are covered in great detail in the IHMN supplement Sleeping Dragon, Rising Sun - http://northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=6175.
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We are pleased to announce that Daishō, skirmish wargaming in mythical Japan, is now sitting in North Star Miniatures' warehouse :D
This means that it is no longer available for pre-order, just for real order.
If you will please excuse me, I am going to pull my shirt up over my face and run around the house squealing like a seven-year-old boy on Christmas morning.
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Gonna try to get these Koreans painted over the weekend / early next week. If I do I will grab a game with the misses and let you know how we find it without your guidance (And hopefully without the dice gods blessing her)
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This turned up today
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OMG, that was quick! :o
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This turned up today
So what do you think?
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Honestly can't say I was on my way out when turned up so only had a flick through. Looks nice though
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Did you want to give me a new project?
Because this is how you give me a new project. :D
Now where do I find me a bunch of handsome anime samurai...
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I need to get my order in then
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Did you want to give me a new project?
Because this is how you give me a new project. :D
Now where do I find me a bunch of handsome anime samurai...
I cant think of any anime Samurai, sure there are some though.
Relic Knights have some Anime Oni though.
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Ordered! Cant wait :D
FFF
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I cant think of any anime Samurai, sure there are some though.
Relic Knights have some Anime Oni though.
I sure hope there are. Thanks for the Oni tip though, I just realized I'd need some of those too.
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There used to be a game called Anima Tactics which had beautiful Anime figures. it stopped production about a year ago but I expect the figures are still around somewhere.
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There used to be a game called Anima Tactics which had beautiful Anime figures. it stopped production about a year ago but I expect the figures are still around somewhere.
I used to want a lot of those but never found a retailer stocking enough of the range in Europe, chances are I'm not going to exactly find (m)any now. :'(
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If the game is defunct there are often quite a few figures on Ebay. For example:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Anima-Tactics-Neutral-Faction-Blisters-/200875089176
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Tomorrow I shall be at The Other Partizan show in Kelham Hall near Newark (UK). I, and my glamorous assistant Gareth, will be running a small Daishō participation game for the fine folks there. If any of you are attending please drop by.
Be kind to us as we are leaving deepest, darkest Mid-Wales at sparrow's fart and travelling across the midlands to be there. I expect that by the afternoon we shall be running on caffeine alone ;)
Nick Eyre of Northstar Miniatures shall also be there, peddling copies of Daishō to the great gaming public (or 'The Golden Horde' as we like to call them).
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Great demo game today.
If you have not had a look at these rules folks I have to say they are clean, fun and fast to use!
Andrew (gent in orange t-shirt around lunch time)
And yes I will be buying them as the next set of printed rules - PDFs would be great though.
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Thanks, Andrew.
We were a small affair truth be told but were busy the whole day long. I shall write a full report, with photographs, over the next day or so :)
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Another of John Ewing's characterful battle reports:
https://daishogame.wordpress.com/2015/09/15/in-a-monastery-garden-a-new-battle-report-by-john-ewing/
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Picked the rules up at Entoyment in Poole yesterday, had a quick flicck through and they look really good. One question, where can i pick up figures for demons and the like?
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For Oni and goblins try Dixon. For a more diverse but more expensive range check out the kensei stuff.
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If you are up for a bit of conversion Warhammer Ogres can make excellent Oni, there is even one dressed as a Ninja, and Reaper Bones Pathfinder Goblins make great Bakemono :)
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Ciao,
I picked my copy 2 days ago, I've just read it but it looks good.
I liked the scenario creations system (something like "Fistful of kung fu") you can play it several times with different complications, the long list of magic/Ki/special actions available, the variuos "buntai" and the point sytem calculations, you can create your own favourite character easely as I did for IHMN squads.
I'm looking forward to play it, we're currently running a campaign with other rules, but I will vote for Daisho as next ruleset to try.
We tried Ronin months ago, buntai are ready and eager for some "chanbara" games!
Just a question: where can I find a QRS? Found on your blog.
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Glad you like it PWS. Let us know how it goes and if you have any questions you know where to find me :D
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Craig,
could you be so kind to explain me a thing from the characters profiles?
Some of them got magical or peculiar weapon and in the option/notes is written its cost.
I don't have here with me the book and I cannot be more precise about details.
Example (correct me if I'm wrong): "Sohei master" in his profile owns a magical Bo and other weapons/abilities in the options below it's written that it costs 20pts.
The "standard" profile of 75pts already includes those points, so are these points to subtract if you decide not to use it?
Or viceversa are points to add to the 75pts if you decide to use this magical staff? I surely missed something somewhere in the rules.
Ciao
Filippo
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Good people, we are hoping that you shall find these useful...
http://northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=7786
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Example (correct me if I'm wrong): "Sohei master" in his profile owns a magical Bo and other weapons/abilities in the options below it's written that it costs 20pts.
The "standard" profile of 75pts already includes those points, so are these points to subtract if you decide not to use it?
Or viceversa are points to add to the 75pts if you decide to use this magical staff? I surely missed something somewhere in the rules.
Ciao
Filippo
Hi Filippo,
Master Hibiki is 86 points including the magical Bo. If you do not wish him to use this weapon subtract the 20 points.
Note that he can also have up tp 20 points of magical powers and you must add the points cost of these to his base 86 points.
I hope that helps.
Cheers,
Craig
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Hi Filippo,
Master Hibiki is 86 points including the magical Bo. If you do not wish him to use this weapon subtract the 20 points.
Note that he can also have up tp 20 points of magical powers and you must add the points cost of these to his base 86 points.
I hope that helps.
Cheers,
Craig
As I thought, thank you.
Ciao