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Miniatures Adventure => VSF Adventures => In Her Majesty's Name => Topic started by: Blofeld on June 05, 2014, 06:02:11 PM

Title: VSF countries
Post by: Blofeld on June 05, 2014, 06:02:11 PM
Does anyone have a list of countries suitable for an IHMN company beyond the obvious ones like France, Russia, Germany, Britain and America?
Thanks
Blofeld
Title: Re: VSF countries
Post by: Craig on June 05, 2014, 06:44:40 PM
The Ottoman Empire
The Austro-Hungarian Empire
The Kingdom of Sweden
Spain
Italy
Ruritania
Iceland & Denmark
The Netherlands, Luxemburg & Belgium
The Dominions of Canada and Australia

Shall I go on?  :D
Title: Re: VSF countries
Post by: Froggy the Great on June 05, 2014, 07:15:12 PM
Also, every VSF interpretation of Mars and Venus are simultaneously true.
Title: Re: VSF countries
Post by: vsfguthroth on June 05, 2014, 07:57:57 PM
Nation states were far fewer at the time, with Austro-Hungary, Germany and Russia occupying an area which today has about 30 nation states,  but you could have fun with independance movements.

Finland was part of Russia, Norway was part of the Kingdom of Denmark and Ireland was part of the UK. All three had active independance (revolutionary/terrorist) movements and any of those could have an anti-govt society with an active 'company'.

The Balkans was in upheaval at the time with the nascent slavic states struggling for independance as well, and we all know where that lead.

The other option is ficticous states like Ruritania, Vulgaria or maybe even Grand Fenwick.
Title: Re: VSF countries
Post by: Le Collectionneur on June 05, 2014, 11:08:07 PM
Don't forget the Vatican and his Swiss Guard too

You can add fan of Napoleon willing to recreate his empire too ;)
Title: Re: VSF countries
Post by: Craig on June 06, 2014, 08:21:24 AM
Don't forget the Vatican and his Swiss Guard too

I think that the Vatican is fairly well covered by The Cognoscenti in HVF  :D
Title: Re: VSF countries
Post by: vsfguthroth on June 06, 2014, 08:29:14 AM
I missed one.

Never underestimate the reach and power of the Extreme Cuckoo Society based in Switzerland.

 lol
Title: Re: VSF countries
Post by: Irishrover13 on June 06, 2014, 02:18:31 PM
In fact people often forget the advance african kingdoms like Ethiopia, and Egypt.  Then the less advance tribe would easily fit under mystic societies, Craig did a great job with basic tribes using the Zulu but time should be taken to make each cultural group unique.

Also you have to take into account all the mythical states, Atlantis, The secret kingdoms in Africa (White men, Black men and intelligent apes), those meso american throwbacks, and those like Shangri-La hidden away in vast  mountains of Asia and South America. 
Title: Re: VSF countries
Post by: argsilverson on June 06, 2014, 02:48:47 PM
In the Real Victorian timeframe, there were also some other minor Nations struggling to ;iberate their copatriots:

This is the situation of GREECE, independent since 1828 trying to expand its  borders.
Two more "independent" Greek states were the island of Samos and for a brief time Crete. Both included in the Greek state by 1913.  The seven Ionian islands were a British protectorate (with its own flag and currency) which were given as a gift to the new king George the 1st after the abdication of king Otto by 1862. Other notable incidents is the blocade during the crimean war, in order to prevent Greece to join Russia.

Fancy and colourful military uniforms till the  adoption of khaki uniforms by 1907.

On the other hand among the African Nations you could also count the subsaharan empire and possibly asian empires like Burma or Thailand and of course China...
Title: Re: VSF countries
Post by: argsilverson on June 06, 2014, 03:06:34 PM
Ah!
I forgot to mention the smaller german Nations like Bavaria and Saxony, that could play some role in a VSF setting:

see also some discussion here:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=66302.msg803024#msg803024

Title: Re: VSF countries
Post by: Craig on June 06, 2014, 03:38:09 PM
Craig did a great job with basic tribes using the Zulu but time should be taken to make each cultural group unique.

I am afraid I cannot claim the credit for the Zulus, they were entirely Charles' doing :D
Title: Re: VSF countries
Post by: Steve63 on June 06, 2014, 03:44:08 PM
Dahomey with the added bonus of Amazons
Title: Re: VSF countries
Post by: Le Collectionneur on June 06, 2014, 04:36:58 PM
I think that the Vatican is fairly well covered by The Cognoscenti in HVF  :D

Oh yes but I think about a more classical army ;)
Title: Re: VSF countries
Post by: Blofeld on June 06, 2014, 06:16:19 PM
I may well have got more than I bargained for with such a general question. Its interesting to think about the small countries which could still have fascinating companies available for creation. does anyone know what was going on with the Swiss military at the time, beyond the Swiss Guard.
Thanks
Blofeld
Title: Re: VSF countries
Post by: Dewbakuk on June 06, 2014, 07:17:50 PM
I think that the Vatican is fairly well covered by The Cognoscenti in HVF  :D

Not in the slightest, I'm one of very few people who can actually field a VSF Papal force (quite a large one too) and the Cognescenti list isn't at all reflective  ;)
Title: Re: VSF countries
Post by: The_Beast on June 06, 2014, 08:14:12 PM
...
Ruritania
...
Shall I go on?  :D

I REALLY like fictional locales; so much greater fudge factor with less likelihood to besmirch someone's actual heritage.

Do look for Red Orc's work on this on the regular VSF forum.

Doug
Title: Re: VSF countries
Post by: argsilverson on June 06, 2014, 09:57:28 PM
I may well have got more than I bargained for with such a general question. Its interesting to think about the small countries which could still have fascinating companies available for creation. does anyone know what was going on with the Swiss military at the time, beyond the Swiss Guard.
Thanks
Blofeld
Swiss guard is not switzerland! they are in vatican city.
virtually every Swiss canton has its own army and different uniforms, though a mix of second empire french and prussian styles are dominant! So, go for FPW miniatures.
Unfortunately if you google "Swiss army" you get the well known knife. Try to start something like "Sonderbund" and you get some ideas.

But I think switzerland offers some interesting aspects, since Companies can fight each other in some fictitious settings of a Civil war or Inter-Swiss war.

The same could also apply to the Italian Companies of the era, with one "Garibaldi" company in Red, with piedmontese allies in blues against naples or papal states. in blues and white uniforms. See mirliton miniatures for suitable figures.

Back in vatican / papal company: I amgine one with monks and nuns as heroes and medics plus Swiss guards and pontifical zouaves for the military types!
Title: Re: VSF countries
Post by: Valerik on June 06, 2014, 10:34:54 PM
~~~ or maybe even Grand Fenwick.

(http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/grand_fenwick__233358.jpg)

Is is fair to pit the less martial nations of Europe, or indeed the World, against Gloriana XII's mighty right arm, Tully Bascombe?

Those who dismiss Grand Fenwick as merely Ruritanian make a grave tactical mistake.

(http://uk.web.img3.acsta.net/r_640_600/b_1_d6d6d6/medias/nmedia/18/93/25/55/20245753.jpg)

Efforts to "modernise" that dear duchy's flag, while quite popular, have thus far been stoutly resisted.

(http://www.strikehold.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/v1-duchy-of-grand-fenwick-national-flag-482x3621.jpg)

Valerik

EDIT: my miserable spelling
Title: Re: VSF countries
Post by: Blofeld on June 07, 2014, 04:01:22 PM
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Swiss guard is not switzerland ! they are in vatican city.
I know that they are a Vatican force, its just that whenever you mention the Swiss in this context they come up.
Thanks for the replies
Blofeld