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Other Stuff => General Wargames and Hobby Discussion => Topic started by: Katsuhiko JiNNai on June 17, 2014, 12:35:07 AM
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I noted that a considerable number of my re-enactors friends are wargamers too.
I'm a medieval re-enactor and member of a reenacting group too.
There are other re-enactors in this forum?
my group Speculum Historiae (XI-XIII-XV centuries)
http://speculum-historiae.org/
The "Coordinamento M&D", my group adheres to it.
http://www.coordinamentomilleduecento.it/
myself as a XIII century north-west italian crossbowman (about 1240-1290, County of Savoy, Montferrat Marquis, Marquisate of Saluzzo)
(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/338/3/9/xiii_century_medieval_italian_crossbowman_by_fratersinister-d5n18s6.jpg)
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/053/f/e/Medieval_costume_2_by_FraterSINISTER.jpg)
(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/189/b/a/ready_in_a_row_by_speculumhistoriae-d6cj43c.jpg)
me and members of my group during a medieval reenacting battle in Cassano D'adda (Cremona) 2013, North Italy. Soon we will be there again in 28-29 of june 2014.
Some sources:
(http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs162.snc1/6052_102024323144152_100000097556335_59664_3371639_n.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3389/4645893032_87218ec138_o.jpg)
(http://www.medievaltymes.com/courtyard/images/maciejowski/leaf27/otm27va&b.gif)
(http://www.medievaltymes.com/courtyard/images/maciejowski/leaf27/otm27vc&d.gif)
(http://www.themcs.org/weaponry/crossbows/crossbow%20Maciejowski%20Bible%201250%20small.gif)
(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7465/numriser0010bd0.jpg)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/signoredipiega/5838455795/in/photostream
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That red hat yells out...
SHOOT ME FIRST!
;)
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This idiotski takes his wargaming very seriously:
http://www.businessinsider.com/r-elusive-muscovite-with-three-names-takes-control-of-ukraine-rebels-2014-15
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2014/05/04/live-fire-for-russian-historical-reenactor-spy/
(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/bmpd/38024980/1143791/1143791_original.jpg)
(http://globalvoicesonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/1144586_original.png)
(http://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2014-05/1400553197_o-00122102-g-00002752.jpg)
(http://i58.tinypic.com/fd5yev.jpg)
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Katsuhiko JiNNai, that's a seriously good kit, very nice impression! Good to see your group's not focussed on the usual knights and ladies.
There's indeed an easy crossover between reenactors and wargamers as both require some interest in (historical) research and immersion. Although some deny any linkage wholeheartedly. ;)
I've had my share of reenactment –or living history rather–, started with a Roman kit (mid-2nd century AD), migrated then to a late 13th century impression and finally hit the Late Medieval period (about 1475 AD). Had to sell most of my kits due to lack of time and money, and my last outfit is sadly stowed away until I get the proper shape again to wear it; 15th century fashion is rather unforgiving in that respect, and I've seen enough well-fed reenactors in all too tight clothes for a lifetime. ::)
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Katsuhiko JiNNai, that's a seriously good kit, very nice impression! Good to see your group's not focussed on the usual knights and ladies.
There's indeed an easy crossover between reenactors and wargamers as both require some interest in (historical) research and immersion. Although some deny any linkage wholeheartedly. ;)
I've had my share of reenactment –or living history rather–, started with a Roman kit (mid-2nd century AD), migrated then to a late 13th century impression and finally hit the Late Medieval period (about 1475 AD). Had to sell most of my kits due to lack of time and money, and my last outfit is sadly stowed away until I get the proper shape again to wear it; 15th century fashion is rather unforgiving in that respect, and I've seen enough well-fed reenactors in all too tight clothes for a lifetime. ::)
Thanks :)
I tried to create an historical accurate crossbowman. Fortunatelly there are many sources about XIII century and many before me found interesting informations.
We have a knight, but only one, most of us reenact crossbowman, infantryman, archers and civilians.
In our group and expecially "Coordinamento M&D" we have strict rules about a correct reenacment.
Sure we could do some mistakes, sometime, but we try to correct them. Have you some pictures of your reenacting?
Here a gallery about an italian army of central italy, from the "Gonfalone del Bufalo" reenacting group (member of the "Coordinamento M&D too)
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.535181099924972.1073741858.366506866792397&type=3
the book done from italian reenacting groups about XIII century clothes and military equipment in Italy (especially central italy):
http://www.coordinamentomilleduecento.it/coordinamento-mille&duecento-progetti-M&D-adla.asp
and for you that love XV century, here an excellent italian group:
http://www.silverflower.org/ (there is an english version too)
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LOL! Hardly serious re-enactor but I did the "Italian Crossbowmen" (Irish Father/Italian Mother background story, First Crusade era,) bit in the SCA for years. unfortunately my armor was hardly completely appropriate (all I could afford was a coat -of-plates for someone about 50 - 60 pounds heavier than I was then (Hey, that means it would fit today!) but I dropped out when I moved to Seattle from Sacramento. It just wasn't as much fun as when I was in Household Rote Mähne and while in Seattle I was married to an LDS lady who never quite had (or made) time for the activities.
Honestly don't miss it.
Gracias,
Glenn
Happy to spend money on miniatures instead of armor/clothing
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Wargamer and former ECW Parliamentary Dragoon, until I moved to Canada. Not much call for it here :D
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Wargamer and former ECW Royalist pikeman here but the arthritis doesn't let me fight anymore, let alone camp and get drunk :'(
cheers
James
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Well you're still camp James, so all is not lost :D
;)
Grant, the 'tache is a brilliant accessory for the RCW, somehow it doesn't look quite right on a Roman. Get yourself a stick-on one ;)
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Well you're still camp James, so all is not lost :D
Ooo, get you ;D
lol
cheers
James
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Wargamer and former Anglo-Saxon warrior. Hoping to get back to it if I can get my health ontrack...
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Surely the Perry twins are the most 'famous' wargamers/reenactors?
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Surely the Perry twins are the most 'famous' wargamers/reenactors?
I don't think they'll comment here though lol
cheers
James
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I don't think they'll comment here though lol
Maybe one day.... After all, LAF is awesome and has much Perry awesomeness on show! :D
For my own part I confess to bouts of reenactment - what can I say, I like dressing up ;)
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Wargamer & WW1 Guards NCO...
It's a big year for my mob...
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Captain Blood does panto so would this count?
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For my own part I confess to bouts of reenactment - what can I say, I like dressing up ;)
I shall refrain from the oh so obvious balaclava comment ;D
cheers
James
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I shall refrain from the oh so obvious balaclava comment ;D
I will too.
I will just point out that dressing up as an oddball with a balaclava does not count as re-enactment.
It just makes you a weirdo!
:D
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I will just point out that dressing up as an oddball with a balaclava does not count as re-enactment.
It just makes you a weirdo!
:D
And carrying a claw hammer and hand axe makes you a...?
:D
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And carrying a claw hammer and hand axe makes you a...?
40K player?
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And carrying a claw hammer and hand axe makes you a...?
:D
.....A weirdo to avoid!
:D
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Captain Blood does panto so would this count?
I've certainly worn a lot of historical costume in my time.
(And I'm not talking about the 1970s)
Acting gives one all the satisfaction of periodically dressing up in fine historical gear from all sorts of eras, and swaggering about with swords and firearms - only with none of the mud, weirdos with dubious political views, and tiresome attention to absolute accuracy.
The women are generally a lot better looking too.
;)
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The women are generally a lot better looking too.
;)
Ah, it's a hell of a job, but somebody's got to do it... :D
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x69/pantomaniac/draculapic1.jpg)
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x69/pantomaniac/draculapic4.jpg)
You certainly have good taste! :D
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=16884.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=16884.0)
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I see Captain Blood has gone quite grey since this photo was taken....
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I see Captain Blood has gone quite grey since this photo was taken....
That will be the Grecian 2000 he used. I'm surprised he didn't continue with it after the production ;) lol
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You certainly have good taste! :D
A bit stalker-like that mate, were you wearing your wooly helmet whilst looking for it ;D
cheers
James
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A bit stalker-like that mate, were you wearing your wooly helmet whilst looking for it ;D
He may not have had to look for it.
;)
Now THAT is even scarier!
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That will be the Grecian 2000 he used. I'm surprised he didn't continue with it after the production ;) lol
The things I have to suffer for my art, luvvies...
BACK TO THE TOPIC...
When I was at university, a very good friend of mine tried to recruit me into re-enactment. His brother was a Lord High Poo-Bah in the Sealed Knot, and he used to disappear off every weekend to play 'the horse'. This entailed him and a few mates who could ride, urging some knackered old hired nags around in circles in a middle of a muddy field, while the pikemen knocked seven bells out of each other and got carted off by St Johns Ambulance vans... I went along a few times. It all seemed utterly chaotic to me. And probably not very historical for the most part - to judge by the number of small, bespectacled women lurking underneath outsized morions.
On the whole, whilst I can completely see the appeal, I'm quite glad I never got into it... Way too time-consuming... :)
I did have a minor theatrical sideline in doing fight shows at medieval banquets for a couple of years though - that was good fun...
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Well, seem after all, that some wargamers here are or were re-enactors too ;)
and what type of re-enactors are you?
Here the categories I found in the web ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_reenactment )
I could consider myself a mainstream/progressive re-enactor, a little above the mainstream but not so extreme as a progressive ;)
Farbs
Some, called "Farbs" or "polyester soldiers",are reenactors who spend relatively little of their time or money maintaining authenticity with regard to uniforms, accessories, or even period behavior. Anachronistic clothing, fabrics, fasteners (such as velcro), snoods, footwear, vehicles, and modern cigarettes are common issues.
Mainstream
Mainstream reenactors make an effort to appear authentic, but may come out of character in the absence of an audience. Visible stitches are likely to be sewn in a period-correct manner, but hidden stitches and undergarments may not be period-appropriate. Food consumed before an audience is likely to be generally appropriate to the period, but it may not be seasonally and locally appropriate. Modern items are sometimes used "after hours" or in a hidden fashion. The common attitude is to put on a good show, but that accuracy need only go as far as others can see.
Progressive
At the other extreme from farbs are "hard-core authentics", or "progressives," as they sometimes prefer to be called. Sometimes derisively called "stitch counters", hardcore reenactors are sometimes misunderstood by observers.
Hard-core reenactors generally value thorough research, and sometimes deride mainstream reenactors for perpetuating inaccurate "reenactorisms". They generally seek an "immersive" reenacting experience, trying to live, as much as possible, as someone of the period might have done. This includes eating seasonally and regionally appropriate food, sewing inside seams and undergarments in a period-appropriate manner, and staying in character throughout an event. The desire for an immersive experience often leads hard-core reenactors to smaller events, or to setting up separate camps at larger events.
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Well, seem after all, that some wargamers here are or were re-enactors too ;)
and what type of re-enactors are you?
<snip>
The desire for an immersive experience often leads hard-core reenactors to smaller events, or to setting up separate camps at larger events.
I see that re-enactors have the same 'issues' that war gamers have - factionalism.
Sigh, human nature is so predictable...
Gracias,
Glenn
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I see that re-enactors have the same 'issues' that war gamers have - factionalism.
Sigh, human nature is so predictable...
Gracias,
Glenn
Yes, seem factionalism is a plague for all hobbies. :-[
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For humanity, I think you'll find ;)
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Guilty
At various times in my youth I did;
Carolingian
Landsknechte
WW1 Bavarian 2nd Chevauleger
WW2 FJ
...and what type of re-enactors are you?...
Farbs...
Mainstream...
Progressive....
Well, at various points in time I was all of the above, but was mainly somewhere between Mainstream and Authenti-Nazi Progressive.
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I too am guilty of participating in recreation groups. Was a long time member of the SCA here on the Left coast of the USA. As a student & scholar of the history of dance was active in medieval, renesaunce, Regency, & Victorian ballroom groups. Also attended a number of black powder groups. Went to North/South Skirmish Assoc. in my Chasseurs d Afrique uniform, pretending to be a French observer. Went to some rondevous & 46er(Mexican/American war) events. Now just throw on my pirating gear to hang out & carouse with the brotherhood of the coast. And occationally attend a Steampunk Ball.
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guilty, although I have to point out that I was not able to do both at the same time. So my active 5 years meant that wargaming was entirely on ice during that period.
if a faction is needed, I would take mainstream, although I had diversions into both extremes:
I found the progressives extremely tiring in their pursue of "authenticity", as well as too inconsistent to follow through and leaving certain unreconstructable portions blank (like a museum does), but instead forcing an interpretation and defending it to the last drop of blood....
sounds familiar?....
The farbs on the other hand were cheerful and fun and very enjoyable, but occasionally overstretched with their inflation of nobility and lack of subject representation - everyone hast to be at least a knight or damsel....
all in all, an experience I wouldn't want to miss in my life...
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Well...Acting,yes another ex thespian ;) And I have a fascination with the 1940/50s which extends to my clothes; drunken Irish poet is how one friend describes me; and my car(well one of them...) a Morris Minor van.I have the worlds largest collect of fusty tweeds and cords lol I always wear wind up wrist watches,oxbloods on the feet,of course the SCA won't have me,their creativity does not extend to middle aged fogey circa 1956 :o
PS and John Betjeman is god and Angela Thirkell his angel.
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lol Yellow. Whilst I do admire rockabilly,60s garage punk is more my thing.And I'd be happy to assist :)
Better get back on topic :D
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I want to see more pictures of you my proud re-enactors ;)
Here more of mine:
(http://th04.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/059/a/8/deus_vult__by_fratersinister-d4r9kp5.jpg)
Knight Hospitaller from XII century (about 1180-1206)
(http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2010/223/9/d/Knight_Hospitaller_4_by_FraterSINISTER.jpg)
and a roman praetorian from I century (about 80 A.D.), however I'm selling the roman equipment because I'm concentrating only on medieval reenactment :(
here the website of the roman group I was member:
http://www.cisalpina.net/
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I want to see more pictures of you my proud re-enactors
Photos of me posing in tight Medieval dress were the reason I stopped wearing it. ;)
Also, you look way more professional than anything I could manage…
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/18/1034_21_06_14_1_55_31.jpg)
Btw, a cordial "pax vobiscum" to a fellow Hospitaller! Back in the day I tried my hand at a Hospitaller impression (if not up to 'modern standards' and yours in particular) and still, after I got rid of it, one of my favourite topics. Way cooler than your ubiquitous Templars, of course. :D
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Photos of me posing in tight Medieval dress were the reason I stopped wearing it. ;)
Also, you look way more professional than anything I could manage…
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/18/1034_21_06_14_1_55_31.jpg)
Btw, a cordial "pax vobiscum" to a fellow Hospitaller! Back in the day I tried my hand at a Hospitaller impression (if not up to 'modern standards' and yours in particular) and still, after I got rid of it, one of my favourite topics. Way cooler than your ubiquitous Templars, of course. :D
Finally another XIII century re-enactor too (see my first pictures in the topic) :)
Hospitallers, especially from XII century are an hard choice, because we know really little about them, and the sources are few.
I know about some excellent french re-enactors that have done another version of hospitallers, but without black tunic over the armor, and the "civil clothes" have not white greek cross over the tunic too. But they are not sure of anything too and still many doubts about how (and especially IF) really these hospitallers wore that damned black (or was brown?) tunic with or without hood over the armor :( So most of the progressive re-enactors prefer to avoid the hospitallers, too uncertain for an historically accurate reconstruction.
http://www.guerriersma.com/contenu/reconstitutions/hopital/hospitaliermili/hospitaliermili.htm
http://www.guerriersma.com/contenu/reconstitutions/hopital/Frere_clerc/frere_clerc.htm
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Cold War Auxiliary Unit:
(http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww281/greywolf1066/IMGP0967_zps2b607cda.jpg)
(http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww281/greywolf1066/IMGP0964_zps1e431b17.jpg)
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Bloody hell Guy, are you sure you didn't just do a google image search and post the results ;)
cheers
James
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Ooohhhh that Morris.
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Bloody hell Guy, are you sure you didn't just do a google image search and post the results ;)
cheers
James
lol I'm turning into Edward Fox; "Wallis".
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what happened with Your hair?
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what happened with Your hair?
It's very short and very grey.
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that went quick....
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Me gusta the Morris! :-*
As for wargaming/re-enacting, I enjoy a little Viking/Anglo-Saxon-ing, some XIIthC Crusader, some (alot) of Coldstream Guard for the Napoleonic Wars and I occasionally flirt with WWII.
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I've certainly worn a lot of historical costume in my time.
(And I'm not talking about the 1970s)
Acting gives one all the satisfaction of periodically dressing up in fine historical gear from all sorts of eras, and swaggering about with swords and firearms - only with none of the mud, weirdos with dubious political views, and tiresome attention to absolute accuracy.
The women are generally a lot better looking too.
;)
Indeed, I think I speak for many of us who consider your performance in Equus as sublime and your starring role in Oh Calcutta! as an acting watershed. Some might say that a musical production of Prick Up Your Ears was overly ambitious for a Christmas panto but I admire the sheer audacity of your theatrical vision. The sets were nice anyway. Your eye for detail and colour blending were top notch as ever.
:D
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some (alot) of Coldstream Guard for the Napoleonic Wars
Aren't you too short for that ;D
cheers
James
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I occationally dress up myself and my daughters in fairly historical costumes (early/high medieval/norman), going to medieval and viking fairs during the summer. The girls attended their fist event in linen dresses last summer (Horsens European Medieval Festival), and really enjoyed shopping for all kinds of tidbits to complete their attire.
I also own a feileadh mór, with corresponding wide-sleeved 'kilt shirt' that I use for renaissance events.
Although I own several helmets, a longbow, and a couple of swords, I've never done any re-enactment fighting, thinking it a bit too risky for my precious fingers (needed for painting and moving stuff around) lol
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Aren't you too short for that ;D
cheers
James
More the "aren't you a bit too well fed for that".
A bit pot/kettle for a man that IS the polearm in a Knot block. :P Did they use you as a weather gauge so they could cover up before the rains hit? :D
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More the "aren't you a bit too well fed for that".
A bit pot/kettle for a man that IS the polearm in a Knot block. :P Did they use you as a weather gauge so they could cover up before the rains hit? :D
I was keeping it polite ;D
ECWS dear boy, none of this Congealed Sknot business ;D
I'm a boon to the pike block I'll have you know, it's very rare we loose a push when I'm there :D
cheers
James
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I joined the Sealed Knot in 1986, met my wife there who had been in since birth. Got bored of all the silly politicking, fun police and disaster zone camp sites so jacked it all in when the renewal came up in 2000.
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I did a bit of medieval reenactment when I was a student. It was mostly an excuse for fighting with swords. But then I found out there was a thing called Historical European Martial Arts (HEMA) where I did not have to dress up to fight and I could hit people in the face with longswords. - Never looked back since.
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Here a video about an history channel documentary from 2009 done in Italy with italian re-enactors:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7pZkUdP-N8
"The Battle of Taranto" East Roman Empire (Byzantines) againts Normans 1042
There are more videos about several battles from XI to XV century, all done from italian re-enactors.
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Italy '44 ;)
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Joined the Sealed Knot in 1976 - still a member.
Rose to Captain in a Parliament regiment of foote, but now a gentleman volunteer after the regiment was disbanded.
But have also done medieval (mostly War of the Roses as an archer), Viking, Tudor, Victorian, Lace Wars and ECWS.
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you look much more realistic than the 2 russian reenactors in the paper yesterday. Imagine 2 sgt schultz's on the back of a tracked motorbike and you are there.
I know nothing about this.
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Guilty as others. :D
Wargamer and ex-reenactor.
Portuguese napoleonic cacadore 6th battalion.
Medieval man at arms 12th and 13th centuries.
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mostly War of the Roses as an archer
Some of my wargaming budies do WotR. They aren't particularly positive about the type of person doing archery for that period. :D
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i will try scan and post it
I was making a really bad joke... unfortunately it appears I was too subtle!
Though pics would be funny anyway, I'm sure.
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The England football team have been re-enacting the 1950 World Cup campaign. Uniform detail has been sadly lacking but the re-enactment has been otherwise quite faithful. Wayne Rooney of course has been dressing up and pretending to be a footballer for many years.
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Guilty...re-enactor of the entertaining kind in 1113 (now in my 12th year - 1114 a.d.): Puppeteer & Musician... :D
(http://www.un-hold.de/Galerie/2013/Rabenstein%20I/img/detail/Rabenstein_1_127_detail.jpg)
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Rose to Captain in a Parliament regiment of foote
Which Regt?
Guilty...re-enactor of the entertaining kind in 1113 (now in my 12th year - 1114 a.d.): Puppeteer & Musician...
I think I re-enacted there.....................I recognise the mud.
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My dad is a SK member. King guard Lindsey's company. He's dragged me along to it a long time ago ( when I was 16). Actually I'm going to the august bank Holliday muster with him.. mainly because my kids think its fun.
I will not post any pics :D
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so do you people wear authentic shoes? What is a medieval shoe? just curious.
These are:
(http://www.un-hold.de/Galerie/Baumgarten/img/detail/14_detail.jpg)
(http://www.un-hold.de/Galerie/2013/Rabenstein%20I/img/detail/Rabenstein_1_035_detail.jpg)
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so do you people wear authentic shoes? What is a medieval shoe? just curious.
These shoes from several centuries, made in italy, not the cheaper shoes available, but some of the best in the market (if you want something of historically accurate):
http://www.historicalitalianshoes.com/
and for clothes and more:
http://www.medievaldesign.com/english.asp
usually for mainstream or progressive re-enactors
however many of the mainstream and progressive groups have one or more members that do clothes and shoes for the group (the owners of the two websites were and are re-enactors too).
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are the soles wood?
ps love the shoes in the top pic the drummer has on.
The drummer is me and I made them by myself. The soles are leather of course... :D
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are the soles wood?
ps love the shoes in the top pic the drummer has on.
Usually the sole are in leather (and maybe iron hobnails), but some shoes (usually pattens) have wood too.
PS: not always easy to walk with shoes with leather sole, I know from experience. :-X In fact some mainstream re-enactors include rubber sole, especially during the renactment battle, but for a progressive re-enactor this is heresy of course ;)
here my XII-XIII century shoes, with leather sole:
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs47/i/2009/177/d/7/Brother_Knight_Hospitaller_5_by_FraterSINISTER.jpg)
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Hello all
If you try to glue some strips of leather on the shoes they will endure a battle and avoid slip on the ground.
I used to do that on mine and it holds.
Cheers
Rui
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PLaced a post but the images didn't work. Sorry
John
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The England football team have been re-enacting the 1950 World Cup campaign. Uniform detail has been sadly lacking but the re-enactment has been otherwise quite faithful. Wayne Rooney of course has been dressing up and pretending to be a footballer for many years.
lol lol lol
EDIT: This also explains Suarez. He's just roleplaying an infected survivor. :D
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Hello all
If you try to glue some strips of leather on the shoes they will endure a battle and avoid slip on the ground.
I used to do that on mine and it holds.
Cheers
Rui
Thanks for the suggestion Rui ;)
Maybe for the leather sole it could be fine to include some iron hobnails too, but sure the strips of leather could be easier ;)
For the re-enactors that are members of some groups, please include the link :D
I'm curious about reenactment in America (all, from north to south) and other countries (not only Europe). I know that in the USA and Canada there are many reenactment events and groups from XVI to XX centuries. Especially about XVIII, XIX and XX century. The Russians do many reenactment events about medieval Russia too, and seem they fight really HARD during the reenactment battles.
I found some re-enactors from japan too, here the link for you guys that love samurai :P
http://www.marvellouswings.com/Kattyuu/
and re-enactors from Taiwan too about the Republic of China 1912-1949:
http://www.fukuo.tw/
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I am impressed Michi. Are you a cobbler? next question is are they comfy despite the lack of gripping?
No, I am no cobbler. I simply make everything I need for re-enactment by myself.
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Hello all
Katsuhiko JiNNai, the problem with the iron hobnails is that when you walk in certain terrain they will make you slip. They are very usefull in broken ground but dangerous in plain terrain.
Roman reenactors can tell you better than me.
Michi, when we reenact for some years we tend to learn how to make most equipment. Its fun and a way of spare some money. :D
Cheers
Rui
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I am impressed Michi. Are you a cobbler? always wondered about the shoes and now I know.
next question is are they comfy despite the lack of gripping?
The lack of gripping isn't much of an issue - but for comfyness, most ante 1600 shoes need felt soles inside, as even the smallest pepple will be felt through the sole. A single layer of boiled leather just isn't enough lol
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The lack of gripping isn't much of an issue - but for comfyness, most ante 1600 shoes need felt soles inside, as even the smallest pepple will be felt through the sole. A single layer of boiled leather just isn't enough lol
But that is because we have grown soft. Humans are from nature designed to walk barefeet (berefoot) I can never remember witch is correct..
And the slipperyness is also minimalised if you change your walking style. Modern footwear has soft heels so we tend to walk heel to toe. But with medieval shoes it is much better to walk to to heel. If that makes any sense at all. It is also better for your knees and back to walk this way. Than the high impact of heel to toe walking.
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But that is because we have grown soft. Humans are from nature designed to walk barefeet (berefoot) I can never remember witch is correct..
And the slipperyness is also minimalised if you change your walking style. Modern footwear has soft heels so we tend to walk heel to toe. But with medieval shoes it is much better to walk to to heel. If that makes any sense at all. It is also better for your knees and back to walk this way. Than the high impact of heel to toe walking.
Just like native americans (used to) and animals do. And I think it's barefoot ;)
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Which Regt?
John Lambert's
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John Lambert's
I was in Meldrum's Dragoons, London Brigade.
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Fallshirmjager late war 1944
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Fallshirmjager late war 1944
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Impressive, have your group some armored cars of tanks? Here in italy most of the IIWW groups have some trucks or motorcyles, but some few have tanks too (and italian tanks or tankettes are really rare)
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I was in Meldrum's Dragoons, London Brigade.
I often used to drink with "Panda" Jenkins from Meldrums - he spent a lot of time at our regimental events.
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hmm, I would guess that the hardcore progressive reeanactors are the ones who cut their hair according to the contemporary fashion they represent. Have rarely seen such and probably never done that myself...
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hmm, I would guess that the hardcore progressive reeanactors are the ones who cut their hair according to the contemporary fashion they represent. Have rarely seen such and probably never done that myself...
Funny enough there's a good half dozen people I know at work who have no interest in wargaming or history, but who seem to be sporting classic 1940's soldaten haircuts. The vagaries of fashion, I suppose!
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For events I would style my hair a little more in the way you would expect, but having seen late war german haircuts from studying slot of photos you would be surprised at the lengths and styles you would not expect from a german soldier! Also facial hair! Of some length almost pirate like!
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would like to see those
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For events I would style my hair a little more in the way you would expect, but having seen late war german haircuts from studying slot of photos you would be surprised at the lengths and styles you would not expect from a german soldier! Also facial hair! Of some length almost pirate like!
Had the war continued beyond 1945, the German landser would almost certainly have fielded the classic Teutonic mullet. A team of German scientists and hairdressers were working on it at the end of the war. As it was, this 'wonder weapon' would wait another forty years before its widespread adoption in the fatherland. As an interesting aside, the widespread Allied bombing of the production facilities for the V-2 rocket left Germany with an excess of peroxide, which in turn found its way into the classic übermensch look.
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Here's a few period photos the chap removing his helmet with the beard is in Normandy July 44, to be fair cutting your hair for a two or three day event is pretty extreme! If it's under head wear you don't tend to notice as much :)
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In a funny way, those photos almost look like modern re-enactors.
Which is merely to say that once you remove the set-piece propaganda photos using handpicked nordic types, everyone looks rather distressingly normal. ;)
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Especially during winter, it's almost unimaginable that everybody would be running around clean-shaven and with a nifty hairdo. For a lot of us nordic types, dry cold (frosty) weather and a razor just won't do. lol
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Yes, very true
the clean-shaven + haircut was usually required with home visit or R&R in general, not on campaign. And of the latter there must have been very little in the last 2 years of the war
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'This also explains Suarez. He's just roleplaying an infected survivor.'
Brilliant! :D :D :D
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'This also explains Suarez. He's just roleplaying an infected survivor.'
Brilliant! :D :D :D
Or a Uruguayan rugby player circa 1972, el milagro de los Andes....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUDP2mSx9bU
My own theory is that plane was chock full of food. They just ate each other for the sheer fun of it. A national trait apparently.
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If I had a coin for every person in the past month who's pointed out that Alive featured a Uruguayan football team, I'd have enough to base a 10,000-point 40k gobbo army with.
lol
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If I had a coin for every person in the past month who's pointed out that Alive featured a Uruguayan football team, I'd have enough to base a 10,000-point 40k gobbo army with.
lol
Maybe Kickstarter could help there.
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Just a pair of pictures of my last reenactment battle (middle XIII century) in Urgnano (BG) North Italy, Lombardia region, I was the crossbowman with painted helmet and leather body armor :D
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Nice to see someone thinking like me. :D
So good to shoot someone instead of being shot at lol
I´m the fellow with the helmet
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OOoooooooohh!
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Nice to see someone thinking like me. :D
So good to shoot someone instead of being shot at lol
I´m the fellow with the helmet
Yes, it's better to shot with bow or crossbow, that be a simple infantrymen (that receive those shots) :D
We too did a battle during night, and received the shots from archers with fire arrows, and there was a trebuchet too. :D