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Miniatures Adventure => VSF Adventures => In Her Majesty's Name => Topic started by: Craig on June 18, 2014, 11:47:38 AM
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Well, Sleeping Dragon, Rising Sun was officially released in the USA yesterday and for the rest of the world it launches on Friday. The last chapter in two years of non-stop work with Osprey.
Many of you will have just received your pre-ordered copies, or shall get them in the next few days. We’d love to hear your views on this new supplement here on the Lead Adventure IHMN forum, on the IHMN blog or on one of the Facebook groups.
Although we shall not be publishing any more IHMN material through Osprey there is so much more to come on the blog and though other avenues. For example, as many of you know we are currently publishing an entire supplement, IHMN Gothic, in thirteen free instalments on the blog.
We are also looking at publishing genre packs to allow you to use the IHMN core rules in a wide range of genres/periods.
Additionally Daishō, a variant of IHMN set in a mystical, medieval Japan, is in the midst of being written with the objective of being published professionally at the end of this year.
So, please enjoy SDRS in the sure and certain knowledge that this is just the beginning of a long-lasting friendship.
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We are also looking at publishing genre packs to allow you to use the IHMN core rules in a wide range of genres/periods.
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While the Gothic thing has a negative value for me personally and Samurai games put me to sleep I am curious to see what you come up with for other genres/periods beyond VSF.
Since IHMN is clearly exclusively a skirmish level game with strong story making potential, (a lot like yet completely different in style and flavor from my preferred games by Two Hour Wargames,) in play it eliminates itself from many periods where skirmish gaming is a small part of the experience.
IHMN would seem to lend itself well to development for Western gaming, Pulp Era gaming perhaps, and even Science Fiction (or perhaps more akin to 'Science Fantasy') at first glance. Those historical games where mass or large battles more representative of the period - Ancients, A. C. W., 7YW/AWI, Napoleonic, etc., - I don't see, at first glance, where the IHMN mechanics would work as well, outside of skirmish situations.
Can you give an idea of what areas are likely tio be explored in the first projects?
Gracias,
Glenn
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While the Gothic thing has a negative value for me personally...
Boy, do our boats float differently... ;D
I saw elsewhere you got all excited about Austro-Hungarian; did you see Rob Lee's Light Dragoons under Player-Authored Material?
Not necessarily my cuppa, which means one of my opponents WILL pounce on it, prolly that bounder Carnage. Really should give it a close read... ;)
Doug
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I love what you've put together so far, and I'm very interested in seeing where it goes from here.
Boy, do our boats float differently... ;D
Yeah, no kidding. There hasn't been anything yet for the game that I haven't thought "Awesome!" this will get some use.
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Oh, there are definitely some I've not thought of using.
However, I've elsewhere said my clearest vision of IHMN, though not always the settings Ive played, is in alleyways and shadowy back streets in Vicky London. THESE could definitely pop out when one least expects them. :D
...when the wolfbane blooms...
Doug
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Oh, there are definitely some I've not thought of using.
However, I've elsewhere said my clearest vision of IHMN, though not always the settings Ive played, is in alleyways and shadowy back streets in Vicky London. THESE could definitely pop out when one least expects them. :D
...when the wolfbane blooms...
Doug
And that is why we differ in our preferences... ;) :)
Dark and Foreboding Jungles, Sweeping tall grass plains/prairies/savannas, Lost Temples, Desert Highlands, Mountain Lairs, Small Pueblos/villages where English is an alien/foreign language, Venus, (someday) Barsoom - these are where my interests lay. :-* 8)
London or any European/American Big City - not happening with my terrain (or interests.) :`
It has nothing to do with my pathological dislike of werewolves/Zombies and virulent dislike of Vampires, much less my personal paranoia/discomfort with Horror settings in general. I blame the last on my childhood and will leave it at that... :'( :( :-X
Gracias,
Glenn
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Boy, do our boats float differently... ;D
I saw elsewhere you got all excited about Austro-Hungarian; did you see Rob Lee's Light Dragoons under Player-Authored Material?
Not necessarily my cuppa, which means one of my opponents WILL pounce on it, prolly that bounder Carnage. Really should give it a close read... ;)
Doug
Nothing wrong with our boats at all... lol
Yes, I did see the Austro-Hungarians :-* :-* but a recent crimp in finances are probably going to result in selling off at a huge discount most of my 25+ mm figures (already underway for personal preferences but accelerated by a recent (and probably long term) need to pay for my hobby independent of our incomes.) but only with a view towards being eventually deployed on Venus (in 15 mm if I can find the figures and the $$$.)
Don't you hate it when your regular across the table player knows how to mess up your plans?? Or your mind? ;) :D I had two of those back in Sacramento, one of which is on this formum (Hi, Alfrik!) rhoug I think it has been decades since we played on the floor of the Rancho Cordova Library... or elsewhere.
Gracias,
Glenn
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Oh, there are definitely some I've not thought of using.
However, I've elsewhere said my clearest vision of IHMN, though not always the settings Ive played, is in alleyways and shadowy back streets in Vicky London. THESE could definitely pop out when one least expects them. :D
...when the wolfbane blooms...
Doug
True, but the baddest monsters in games should reflect the worst villains in reality too (Humans.)
I have been in my job too long (so much that I gave up watching the news/reading newspapers/magazines.) And the mental scars will always be there from seeing just how fallen we mortals are... We exceed the evil of the monsters of Fantasy and SF as a race... Lord, I sound so morbid... Let me balance that with the fact that the greatest heroes should be those humans who rise above their nature and do Good/defeat Evil.
Gracias
Glenn
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I love the IHMN rule set, it would work for any setting with small scale conflicts.
Wild West: Set the time like earlier cut back on the weird science and you have a great system for the Range wars and similar conflicts fought all over the wild west.
Spys: I think the rules would be great for James Bond type spy vs spy conflicts.
Back of Beyond: post world war 1 in wild areas of asia.
I have more as well.
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I love the IHMN rule set, it would work for any setting with small scale conflicts.
Wild West: Set the time like earlier cut back on the weird science and you have a great system for the Range wars and similar conflicts fought all over the wild west.
Spys: I think the rules would be great for James Bond type spy vs spy conflicts.
Back of Beyond: post world war 1 in wild areas of asia.
I have more as well.
Agreed. It's a great system that can be used all sorts of ways. The more material we have, the more we can accomplish without going beyond "official" play tested rules.
I'm even considering using it in the Warhammer Fantasy setting doing warbands, especially witch hunters etc..
It would also work with the Lovecraftian Mythos, though in this case I'd likely add another attribute that works like Pluck, except solely for willpower type rolls.
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The literary monsters of a period reflect the worst that people saw around them in their daily lives.
In the Victorian period it was the rich preying upon the poor (vampires), the unregulated and oftimes immoral advances of science (Frankenstein - Prometheus unbound) and the ability of men themselves to harbour monsters in their breasts (werewolves).
Now it is the numbing of the populace through TV, drugs and unemployment and the fear of becoming one with the masses (zombies).
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The literary monsters of a period reflect the worst that people saw around them in their daily lives.
In the Victorian period it was the rich preying upon the poor (vampires), the unregulated and oftimes immoral advances of science (Frankenstein - Prometheus unbound) and the ability of men themselves to harbour monsters in their breasts (werewolves).
Now it is the numbing of the populace through TV, drugs and unemployment and the fear of becoming one with the masses (zombies).
Wow, learned analysis, (seriously, no sarcasm, honest appreciation,) from a war game thread. I am impressed. I do think you (like me) tie the metaphors of the then current 'realities' viewed/colored by modernism and the personal political/social/religious blinders we all wear. I would love to find views from the non-socialist tinged commentators of that time for balancing how Victorians may have seen that.
Gracias,
Glenn
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The literary monsters of a period reflect the worst that people saw around them in their daily lives.
In the Victorian period it was the rich preying upon the poor (vampires), the unregulated and oftimes immoral advances of science (Frankenstein - Prometheus unbound) and the ability of men themselves to harbour monsters in their breasts (werewolves).
Now it is the numbing of the populace through TV, drugs and unemployment and the fear of becoming one with the masses (zombies).
I am enjoying this as well. I never thought of it this way before for Zombies, they are a old monster that is found in many cultures but never a "horde" creature until the last few decades. It is interesting how old monsters evolve.
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I am enjoying this as well. I never thought of it this way before for Zombies, they are a old monster that is found in many cultures but never a "horde" creature until the last few decades. It is interesting how old monsters evolve.
True, now I am thinking about - "How much am I seeing a creature (Vampire, Zombie, Dwarf, Elf,) from my post LOTR, post Cold War, post 'civil rights for <insert a group>' viewpoint? How were they viewed in the early 1900s? the 1700s? the 900s?"
Gracias,
Glenn
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Speaking of Elves I think IHMN would make a wonderful Fantasy skirmish system. Better once iron out my campaign model (different from Craig's likely not better though).
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Speaking of Elves I think IHMN would make a wonderful Fantasy skirmish system. Better once iron out my campaign model (different from Craig's likely not better though).
Heh. 'Elves' and 'iron'.
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My copies on its way from Amazon (runs around living room with pants on his head and two pencils up his nose, making tank noises).
Looking forward to this big time.
ant1clock
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Speaking of Elves I think IHMN would make a wonderful Fantasy skirmish system. Better once iron out my campaign model (different from Craig's likely not better though).
You might think that but we could not possibly comment :)
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You might think that but we could not possibly comment :)
I am throwing together an alternative campaign type based on controlling certain parts of a city, county or mountain range. The map will be broken into sections which will give small bonus for the long term campaign, for example controlling the Tribal village would allow you to hire at regular point cost a couple warriors or a witch doctor. In addition each team having one or more objectives to complete on the campaign map, perhaps capture the gold mine or find a certain artifact. I am trying to use the KISS principle but this type of campaign is going to be more complex and it is likely not for everyone. Regardless it is coming along nicely.
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Have you ever heard of the board game called Junta!?
Here are some links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junta_(game)
http://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/61699/official-english-rules
http://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/3386/junta-cards-pdf
In this game you had to collect certain cards that gave you influence of certain parts of society and their resources as well as win districts in the capital city. I always though it would be a great basis for a campaign...
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Have you ever heard of the board game called Junta!?
Here are some links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junta_(game)
http://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/61699/official-english-rules
http://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/3386/junta-cards-pdf
In this game you had to collect certain cards that gave you influence of certain parts of society and their resources as well as win districts in the capital city. I always though it would be a great basis for a campaign...
Neat. I have never heard of it before but it looks like it might have some ideas I may incorporate.
My test Campaign is set in and around the fable city of Shambhala in Tibet. The main Campaign focus is on obtaining or keeping others from getting full control of the city. Some territories include: Grove of Life and Wisdom (Contains the trees that have the peaches of immortality) which let one named character buy Immortal Trait with resources. The Yeti cave which lets you recruit a single Yeti at cost, if you lose the cave you lose the Yeti. Sherpa Village which lets you buy sherpas (Gurka guides) at cost. Gold mines, silver mines and taverns which generates 15,10 and 5 resource points a round, your starting territory also provides 20-35 points a turn. Resource points are points are used to buy new recruits, equipment and territory upgrades.
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Sounds very interesting. Keep us in the loop on this one :D
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My SDRS is due to be delivered by Amazon today, so I will be able to read through it over the weekend.
It's a bit early to be 100% certain, but IHMN appears to have caused a significant change in my gaming habits. VSF has always been of interest to me, but large figure skirmish games always left me cold, until I found IHMN ....
Suddenly I find I have 3 completed companies (East African), 1 being painted (Gothic), another on the shelf and advanced plans to purchase my 6th one next week (both UK/European based).
Collecting companies for the game appears to be addictive – Damn You Sir !!
Scenery is needed as well of course, hence the Jungle setting to start with, but I now have an array of buildings (more cost) and I am working on a board with roads pre painted to use as a base for urban games.
On top of that, I can’t help but wonder about using the IHMN for earlier periods such as Prehistoric/Caveman games. I have even committed to a Kickstarter offering models of large prehistoric beasts with a view to running a series of 'Lost World' -type games later in the year. Off topic a bit, but not as bad as one of my clubmates who was heard to wonder how well the basic system would handle Napoleonic skirmish games ....
Onwards and Upwards ? Downhill to penury for me I suspect .... :o
Nevertheless, it's a great system, and the authors deserve great praise for it.
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SDRS shipped on the 17th from Amazon, was received yesterday, the 19th, via standard shipping.
Have been reading the book since its release on my Kindle, and am well pleased with everything, especially the wealth of new Talents and Mystic Powers. Reduced cost for limited Mystic Powers? Superb!
However.
Recycling artwork from the first book into SDRS?
:o
I am shocked. Shocked.
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Mine not here yet, probably while at Die Con today... ::)
Gracias,
Glenn
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did you see Rob Lee's Light Dragoons under Player-Authored Material?
Doug
You mean someone read it? :D
I like that. Makes me wonder if I should have sold my rules after all... o_o
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I'm trying to adapt the rules at the moment for a Zombie Apocalypse style game. The superb character creation system in IHMN makes it pretty easy to create survivors and the weapons making rules are simply brilliant for making modern weapons. I hope that some of the heralded adaptation packs are made, this game is too good to only use for one period.
Thanks
Blofeld
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Mine not here yet, probably while at Die Con today... ::)
Gracias,
Glenn
Nope, maybe tomorrow...
Gracias,
Glenn
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Recycling artwork from the first book into SDRS?
I refer the honourable member to the Junior Minister for Publication Mr Smith ;)
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Recycling artwork from the first book into SDRS?
At leadt it had arteork ;) Took me a couple of days to resaize what was missing from HVF.
Right now, my only teo quibbles (both minor) is treating the katsna as a regular sword and no Indian figure using the chakram.
I like the new complications, but I'm not sure how I'd randomly plave the <thingie> from 7.1. I could either roll a d36 twice (assuming a standard table) and treat as the X,Y coordinates, or just drop a cardboard marker from above the table.
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I refer the honourable member to the Junior Minister for Publication Mr Smith ;)
Being unable to reach Junior Minister Smith, or otherwise gain satisfaction via various futile attempts at communication with the Ministry of Publication, the honourable member has been forced to lodge formal complaint with the Ministry of Compliance within the Department for Culture, Media, Sport, and Other Such Nonsense (DCMSOSN). The honourable member has been promised by said Ministry of said Department that suitable inquiries will be made into this serious matter sometime, perhaps, in the next decade. Or two. Or whenever. I felt it only fair and sporting, Sir, to warn you of this impending government action.
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Right now, my only teo quibbles (both minor) is treating the katsna as a regular sword and no Indian figure using the chakram.
The Katana is just a sword folks, get over it :o
As for Indian chaps throwing a chakhram it is throwing knife, just like shuriken are :D
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The Katana is just a sword folks, get over it :o
As for Indian chaps throwing a chakhram it is throwing knife, just like shuriken are :D
Aaaaah, Craig, everybody wants their super weapon to be special! ;) lol
Like the reata...
Gracias,
Glenn
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The Katana is just a sword folks, get over it :o
I was thinking more of hand-and-a-half swords in general (although the katana is the best known example of that type and probably the most common by the 1890's). Say +1 to cost for a +1 increase to the attack bonus if used two-handed.
As for Indian chaps throwing a chakhram it is throwing knife, just like shuriken are :D
Oh, I figured it would be treated as a thrown knife (aren't most thrown weapons? ;) ). I was just commenting on no Indian figure having chakrams as equipment.
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We are also looking at publishing genre packs to allow you to use the IHMN core rules in a wide range of genres/periods.
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What about the mid-18th C.? The rules are certainly suitable for adventures of the type(s) sometimes referred to by the (somewhat controversial) names of Lacepulp (http://www.drunkendragoonproductions.com/18thcentimagi-nation/viewforum.php?f=13) / Lacepunk (http://www.theoddfellowslounge.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?19-The-Jean-Louis-Salon) or described as 'weird 18th C. / Gothic Horror (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=51419.msg603142#msg603142). Many suggestions for companies come to mind: the 2nd League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=49766.0), the ancestor of Torchwood (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=49673.0), and movies set in various periods provide plenty of inspiration for new companies (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=64347.0).
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What about the mid-18th C.? The rules are certainly suitable for adventures of the type(s) sometimes referred to by the (somewhat controversial) names of Lacepulp (http://www.drunkendragoonproductions.com/18thcentimagi-nation/viewforum.php?f=13) / Lacepunk (http://www.theoddfellowslounge.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?19-The-Jean-Louis-Salon) or described as 'weird 18th C. / Gothic Horror (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=51419.msg603142#msg603142). Many suggestions for companies come to mind: the 2nd League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=49766.0), the ancestor of Torchwood (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=49673.0), and movies set in various periods provide plenty of inspiration for new companies (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=64347.0).
We are consistent, no?
You with the Mid-18th Century and Me with the Spanish...
Nothing wrong with that iMO just an observation (based on a comment in another thread about maybe trying Andorra Militia... ;) lol and all...) that we may deviate but we have our core "Holy Grail" of gaming...
On Topic, IHMN is just a century or so later so adjustments would be do-able IMO.
Gracias,
Glenn
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It strikes me from the comments so far that people are agreed that IHMN has the viability to be a universal rules engine provided it is kept lighthearted.
Using the base of the original rules I am sure that it could be modified to cover every kind of 'pulp punk' from Nile Punk to SF Punk. The key would be to get the flavour of the period and adapt the rules and equipment to reflect this. Who is to say that you could have a band of space mercenaries called the Incorrigibles or an ancient Egyptian faction led by the human pharaoh Akhnaton?
It has been been done in RPG systems.
One book per period times the number of historical periods plus some fantasy and mythos, there, thats Craig and Charles in employment for a few years!
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One book per period times the number of historical periods plus some fantasy and mythos, there, thats Craig and Charles in employment for a few years!
Haven't you heard of Daisho? lol
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Haven't you heard of Daisho? lol
There you are only another 119 to go...
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And IHMN Gothic... :o
Honestly though there are so many genres we couldn't possibly hit them all. Well not while staying sane anyway :)
One thing we are committed to doing is to begin creating and releasing what we call genre packs. This gives you the basic rules and material with which to develop your own companies in various genres. So, for example, a genre pack will include an armoury, possibly a bestiary, a few genre-specific talents and powers, some scenarios, complicators and landscapes. We have a couple under development and will get back around to them when Gothic is finished.
These will, of course, be free and will be released through the blog.