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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Predatorpt on June 25, 2014, 12:29:35 AM
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And what about a new KS with some clearly non-40k inspired miniatures o_o
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/002/183/535/f9fb8b05f1dc4735db688041c63fc2c3_large.jpg?1403547369)
Our miniatures will be scaled to the same size as the most popular 28mm miniatures games. This means that most humans will be approximately 28mm to eye level while other units like our heavy armored Lancers will be closer to 32mm.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ericsexton/war-prime-tabletop-miniatures
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/002/068/927/7941900c2db27743a09b6b7124dcd520_large.jpg?1401312864)
(http://static.squarespace.com/static/523dc802e4b0019d4f5b44f4/524246e1e4b08b05e59ca4d2/53a716dce4b00e31cf56050a/1403459292706/Enlist_small.jpg?format=500w)
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the chaps over at dakka dakka have truly picked the meat from the bones of this kickstarter.
i think the guys running this campaign really don't see the difference between making mobile apps and making a wargame.
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I actually kind of like the renders, but the finished product looks rubbish. Also shipping is more expensive than the cheapest mini pledge, which is off-putting.
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Both side look like they'd fit into the generic sci fi future of Deadzone, especially the beastly crew that seem to fill the role of Orks. At 32mm they might dwarf the Mantic troops, which is not a bad thing for huge angry aliens.
I was considering grabbing a starter or two from the Fallen Frontiers kickstarter before it was cancelled, but this one looks like much better value.
$40 for 24 hard plastic minis seems like a pretty good deal to me, especially as you essentially end up with two starters. $100 for more than 50 minis, including a mech, seems just as good.
The painted prints don't look so hot (kind of like the Warzone remake) despite the renders looking nice (also like Warzone). If the final product looks good, and I'll wait until I can see them before I commit (thanks to you, Sedition Wars) I'll be in for the bad guys, at least.
$999,999 stretch goal? Looking at the preceding goals, $4550,000 would have been more reasonable. $25 shipping to Australia feels like a steal after the recent postage price hikes around the globe.
Like a lot of recent KS, I guess the mantra is 'wait and see'. I haven't pledge for anything since Mars Attacks.
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I actually like the armors and I don't think they're that much 40K inspired considering the number of total rip-offs those days.
I hope people won't be disappointed with the material as it looks a bit soft or weird but that might be the pics.
Good luck to them. Looks like they won't need it but their costs seem to have been calculated precisely (xx,x) and I wonder if all will goes well in that aspect.
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renders look nice (I like the not sci-fi uruk hai type creatures), however the models shown so far are pretty poor, the level you would expect from plastic models in the 90's, nowhere near good enough for today's standards.
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3D prints that seem to be carved in butter on a hot summer day, and same marketing language as used by Tony Reidy (go USA, go!), completely put me off this.
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It seems like just about everyone and their grandmother are taking a shot at the GW market these days. This one even has their funding level at a totally coincidental 40K... ::)
Was a great idea back when GW ruled suppreme (and saleswise they still do, probably), to break the monopoly they had, but with all these 'not's and knock-offs of late, I'm almost nostalgic for some 'real' 40K again.
Almost... :P
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Total pas on this....
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Pass (and I mean AT SPEED)
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Pass (and I mean AT SPEED)
Ik ook!
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The team seems pretty professional, some of them have a really interesting curriculum!
the models themself are kinda "meh", but i'll follow this curiously. There's a serious lack of good plastic scifi around.
And yes, the 3d tests look really bad. But... have you ever tried to make a photo to an almost white flat material? I honestly can't judge the quality from those photos. Maybe a quick wash before making the pictures would have helped. :S
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BTW, what is according to them "hard plastic"?
Because I doubt it'll be HIPS (the "real" hard plastic, the ones used by GW or WF).
To start with, those minis have undercuts that wouldn't work with a steel mold.
Also, the tooling for steel molds is very expensive, and 40K dollars won't cut it.
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Ik ook!
Hallo!-) Jij ook? Nouja.....ik ook dus. 8)
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BTW, what is according to them "hard plastic"?
Because I doubt it'll be HIPS (the "real" hard plastic, the ones used by GW or WF).
To start with, those minis have undercuts that wouldn't work with a steel mold.
Also, the tooling for steel molds is very expensive, and 40K dollars won't cut it.
good point, in this case those aren't really appealing.
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Hallo!-) Jij ook? Nouja.....ik ook dus. 8)
Wij allemaal dus... lol
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Wij allemaal dus... lol
lol
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their costs seem to have been calculated precisely (xx,x) and I wonder if all will goes well in that aspect.
As far as I can tell, they haven't finalised things with any HIPS mouldmaker or caster yet: they just recently found out that their intended plastics producer only offered PVC, which they didn't want. Also, pardon any ignorance on my part about the HIPS moulding process, but they still seem to think silicone moulds are involved.
Costs are still up in the air, I think.
The team seems pretty professional, some of them have a really interesting curriculum!
But as Nic-e says, in video games... o_o
For me, 'Warprime' was the biggest warning. Like I said over on Dakka, the Rob Liefeld (http://www.progressiveboink.com/2012/4/21/2960757/robliefeld3) naming method is the mark of someone riding on GW's coattails in one way or another: take the word 'War' (or 'Hammer' (http://www.beastsofwar.com/sci-fi-wargaming/red-knight-entertainment-unveils-corpse-hammer/)) and mash it together with any other negative or imposing noun or adjective.
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For me, 'Warprime' was the biggest warning. Like I said over on Dakka, the Rob Liefeld (http://www.progressiveboink.com/2012/4/21/2960757/robliefeld3) naming method is the mark of someone riding on GW's coattails in one way or another: take the word 'War' (or 'Hammer' (http://www.beastsofwar.com/sci-fi-wargaming/red-knight-entertainment-unveils-corpse-hammer/)) and mash it together with any other negative or imposing noun or adjective.
I agree for "hammer" but... War? I think that war can be considered quite not-gw branded! :)
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Granted, stuff like Warmachine and Warpath are pretty much fine, because those are previously existing terms; but especially in the latter case (a company explicitly set up to nick GW's customers) the 'Warthingy' trope does seem at least partly intentional. And then you have weirder and weirder mashups like Warthrone, Warhell, and now Warprime, all of 'em from little businesses trying to nick bits and pieces almost directly from GW's mouth, like pilot fish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_fish) around a great white.
Or it's like designing powered armour space-knight troops with huge shoulder pads, coloured blue with gold trim. Nothing stopping you, it's not a litigiously defensible concept, but we all know why you're doing it. >:D
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Costs are still up in the air, I think.
Do you mean before or after the virgule? :D
Well, I really wish them good luck. Anybody trying and furthermore succeeding a KS has my respect since I tried and failed. Whatever the idea, figures, etc. As long as consumers/backers actually get something of course.
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Granted, stuff like Warmachine and Warpath are pretty much fine, because those are previously existing terms; but especially in the latter case (a company explicitly set up to nick GW's customers) the 'Warthingy' trope does seem at least partly intentional. And then you have weirder and weirder mashups like Warthrone, Warhell, and now Warprime, all of 'em from little businesses trying to nick bits and pieces almost directly from GW's mouth, like pilot fish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_fish) around a great white.
Or it's like designing powered armour space-knight troops with huge shoulder pads, coloured blue with gold trim. Nothing stopping you, it's not a litigiously defensible concept, but we all know why you're doing it. >:D
haha, i quite agree with you! :)
However, it's always good to "wake" people from the GW abyss, no? :)
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Ik ook!
lol
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However, it's always good to "wake" people from the GW abyss, no? :)
But are they really waking from GW if they are only buying obvious proxies? :?
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But are they really waking from GW if they are only buying obvious proxies? :?
considering that most of gw-ers don't even know that other miniatures exist other than gw, i'd say yes! :)
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Shame as I actually like some of the art...but I have a very very sneaky suspicion this will be some extraordinarily soft restic-nightmare. The 3D test prints or whatever look incredibly soft. Also, while it's a bit picky -the name is silly. lol