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Title: Another try at War and Conquest.
Post by: scrivs on June 27, 2014, 01:06:44 PM
After the England vs Costa Rica game on Tuesday evening Nick and I pitched the Almoravids against the Christian Spanish using War and Conquest.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0Q6CXFTE9jU/U61Y7FbbpHI/AAAAAAAAIs0/Uidk-Xf9zvI/s1600/IMG_1243.JPG)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tp0w-hNC4KE/U61Y0NmbEsI/AAAAAAAAIsQ/fs2B27Gc8W4/s1600/IMG_1238.JPG)

A battle report with orders of battle, more commentary and a bunch of photos are on the Scrivsland blog (http://scrivsland.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/war-and-conquest-round-two.html)
Title: Re: Another try at War and Conquest.
Post by: warburton on June 27, 2014, 01:50:21 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Another try at War and Conquest.
Post by: Atheling on June 27, 2014, 02:13:12 PM
Good one Scrivs....  8).

I haven't even had had the opportunity to play one single game, I don't even own a copy!

Rob would not be happy  :)

Darrell.
Title: Re: Another try at War and Conquest.
Post by: Marine0846 on June 29, 2014, 05:56:58 PM
I like to look of your armies.
Very nice.
May I ask about your basing of figures.
The units sitting on movement stands,
 are their bases magnetic?
Title: Re: Another try at War and Conquest.
Post by: scrivs on June 29, 2014, 06:50:40 PM
Thanks chaps.

Darrell, I don't own a copy either, I rely on Nick reading them.

are their bases magnetic?
Yes, I use magnetic sheets on the bases and flex-o-metal on the movement tray.
Title: Re: Another try at War and Conquest.
Post by: Atheling on June 29, 2014, 08:44:03 PM
Thanks chaps.

Darrell, I don't own a copy either, I rely on Nick reading them.

 lol Ah...... worth buying do you think matey?

Yes, I use magnetic sheets on the bases and flex-o-metal on the movement tray.

It's a really great idea!  8)

Darrell.
Title: Re: Another try at War and Conquest.
Post by: Phil Portway on July 11, 2014, 11:16:05 PM
Much more colourful game than the England game and looked mor fun
 8)
Title: Re: Another try at War and Conquest.
Post by: grant on July 12, 2014, 03:14:01 PM
Just did some googling; War and Conquest seem like the greatest rules that no one plays. What's up with that?
Title: Re: Another try at War and Conquest.
Post by: Ray Earle on July 12, 2014, 09:03:30 PM
Advertising.

They sort of came out without the fanfare of other pretenders to the throne of WAB. Bloody good ruleset though.  :D
Title: Re: Another try at War and Conquest.
Post by: Vermis on July 13, 2014, 05:31:00 PM
How close are the rules to WAB? In fact, how do they compare to WAB and HC, Scrivs? Doesn't seem to say on your blog. ;)
Title: Re: Another try at War and Conquest.
Post by: scrivs on July 13, 2014, 06:32:45 PM
They are quite WAB like but with a few subtleties. I finally purchased a set today so will not have to rely so much on Nick in our next game.
Title: Re: Another try at War and Conquest.
Post by: Pijlie on July 13, 2014, 08:40:10 PM
Here is a link to a review on my blog that a lot of people apparently enjoyed reading so far.

http://pijlieblog.blogspot.nl/2013/12/why-we-all-should-know-about-war-and.html (http://pijlieblog.blogspot.nl/2013/12/why-we-all-should-know-about-war-and.html)
Title: Re: Another try at War and Conquest.
Post by: grant on July 13, 2014, 09:52:16 PM
Here is a link to a review on my blog that a lot of people apparently enjoyed reading so far.

http://pijlieblog.blogspot.nl/2013/12/why-we-all-should-know-about-war-and.html (http://pijlieblog.blogspot.nl/2013/12/why-we-all-should-know-about-war-and.html)

It's a great review!
Title: Re: Another try at War and Conquest.
Post by: Vermis on July 14, 2014, 12:08:04 AM
Here is a link to a review on my blog that a lot of people apparently enjoyed reading so far.

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Like WAB, WAC builds up an army in units made up from individual figures that fight and die individually. This does not make it a skirmish game...

Well, it could, because grandaddy Warhammer FB was/is a skirmish game that piled up minis into units. :P One of the things that put me off it, and WAB.

I did hear about WaC and CoE when they were released, but wanted to get as far away from Warhammer as I could. I can't be having with individual casualty removal in a battle game, anymore...
Title: Re: Another try at War and Conquest.
Post by: grant on July 14, 2014, 12:26:13 AM
I did hear about WaC and CoE when they were released, but wanted to get as far away from Warhammer as I could. I can't be having with individual casualty removal in a battle game, anymore...

So what rules do you use?  ???
Title: Re: Another try at War and Conquest.
Post by: Pijlie on July 14, 2014, 05:11:41 AM
Well, it could, because grandaddy Warhammer FB was/is a skirmish game that piled up minis into units. :P One of the things that put me off it, and WAB.

I did hear about WaC and CoE when they were released, but wanted to get as far away from Warhammer as I could. I can't be having with individual casualty removal in a battle game, anymore...

Well, there is no arguing taste, of course. One guy hates casualty removal, the other one hates counters...

BTW I tend to define skirmish as games in a 1:1 ratio (one figure, one man) where the smallest playing currency is a figure which accounts for me not seeing WAC as a skirmish game. If the smallest playing currency is a unit, like in WAB/WAC where single figures usually have no significance, it's not a skirmish game in my book.
Title: Re: Another try at War and Conquest.
Post by: Arlequín on July 14, 2014, 07:51:52 AM
Well, it could, because grandaddy Warhammer FB was/is a skirmish game that piled up minis into units. :P One of the things that put me off it, and WAB.

I did hear about WaC and CoE when they were released, but wanted to get as far away from Warhammer as I could. I can't be having with individual casualty removal in a battle game, anymore...

BTW I tend to define skirmish as games in a 1:1 ratio (one figure, one man) where the smallest playing currency is a figure which accounts for me not seeing WAC as a skirmish game. If the smallest playing currency is a unit, like in WAB/WAC where single figures usually have no significance, it's not a skirmish game in my book.

I always just saw it as a large skirmish game and ignored its pretensions. Having a unit of 20 archer figures representing 20 real archers made a lot more sense. Even in skirmishes people group together.

I do agree though that pretending you're re-fighting a major battle, rather than some insignificant scuffle, does not really work when a model representing 50+ men gets a saving throw.  ::)

:)
Title: Re: Another try at War and Conquest.
Post by: Axebreaker on July 14, 2014, 07:42:59 PM
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I did hear about WaC and CoE when they were released, but wanted to get as far away from Warhammer as I could. I can't be having with individual casualty removal in a battle game, anymore...

I suggest "Impetus" if your not already playing it. :D

Christopher
Title: Re: Another try at War and Conquest.
Post by: Atheling on July 15, 2014, 10:56:37 AM
I suggest "Impetus" if your not already playing it. :D

Christopher

Seconded 8)

For the uninitiated, there's a downloadable Basic Impetus version if you want to try it out on the Dadi & Piombo site:

http://www.dadiepiombo.com/basic2.html

Darrell.

Title: Re: Another try at War and Conquest.
Post by: Axebreaker on July 15, 2014, 05:54:32 PM
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For the uninitiated, there's a downloadable Basic Impetus version if you want to try it out on the Dadi & Piombo site:

True and that's a very nice bonus, however I highly recommend the full version which IMHO gives a better game, but their are others who do prefer the basic version.

Christopher