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Title: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: DonVoss on June 30, 2014, 10:49:48 AM
I discovered a new technique invented by a fellow wargamer from Berlin.
It uses the stuff you put on the floor when your renovate your flat. Its "Flies" in german and I think it translates into fleece, but I am not sure. Its a kind of rather soft fabrique with a thin plastic undercoat. Very usefull because no colour gets through the fabrique. It costed me 7€ for a roll of 1x10m.

Here are a few pics I took druing making the matt.

Firstly I packed all the stuff neede together: its a rather fast thing.


(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/wm1_zps0f1a5b00.jpg) (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/DonVoss_photos/media/wm1_zps0f1a5b00.jpg.html)

Then I put the paint on the fabrique, rather Jackson Pollock style.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/wm2_zps0145c0a6.jpg) (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/DonVoss_photos/media/wm2_zps0145c0a6.jpg.html)

Then I mixed the colours directly on the fleece, and put some static grass onto in...;)

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/wm3_zps0bfece59.jpg) (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/DonVoss_photos/media/wm3_zps0bfece59.jpg.html)

Its intended to be an african matt, so its very yellowish. I added a river by just throwing some green and blue onto it.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/wm4_zpsdddd5606.jpg) (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/DonVoss_photos/media/wm4_zpsdddd5606.jpg.html)

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/wm6_zps7f2e70d0.jpg) (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/DonVoss_photos/media/wm6_zps7f2e70d0.jpg.html)

And a detail shot...

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/wm5_zps5e5fd1d1.jpg) (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/DonVoss_photos/media/wm5_zps5e5fd1d1.jpg.html)

Took me around an hour...

Its very cheap, light in weight and easy to build... :o


Cheers,
Don
Title: Re: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: MalcyBogaten on June 30, 2014, 10:56:53 AM
Very useful for on the move gaming or storage.

I bet you have to move rather quickly before the paint soaks in and drys?

But the effect is very good!

Malc
Title: Re: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: Too Bo Coo on June 30, 2014, 11:41:48 AM
Very impressive!
Title: Re: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: WitchfinderGeneral on June 30, 2014, 02:05:34 PM
Its "Flies" in german
I think it's called "Vlies".
Anyway, I always wondered if one could make something usable out of that stuff... and then it's so easy and good looking!
Title: Re: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: Dr. Zombie on June 30, 2014, 02:17:48 PM
Wow :o

That looks really good. It even looks like something I could do!!
Title: Re: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: Too Bo Coo on June 30, 2014, 03:30:24 PM
It's 'fleece', and that's not exactly the same thing in English, but close. 
Title: Re: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: Ahistorian on June 30, 2014, 04:00:13 PM
That looks amazing! Can it be bought any wider than 1m in the UK?

Also, does the river look furry on the table?
Title: Re: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: Skrapwelder on June 30, 2014, 05:37:21 PM
Great idea and it looks really good.

I see it listed as a felt drop cloth in US suppliers but it doesn't look like it gets more than a meter wide.
Title: Re: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: fred on June 30, 2014, 06:01:55 PM
Looks really good.

It's not fleece in the UK, it looks like felt ( which is used under carpets ) but looks thinner, and I've not seen the plastic backing before.
Title: Re: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: BigB on June 30, 2014, 06:05:50 PM
I was able to by 6' x 60' rolls from National Nonwovens on the East Coast:  http://www.nationalnonwovens.com/Applications/c&h.htm

I think the color blend I got is out of stock (reets relish) but they have plenty of choices.
Title: Re: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: FramFramson on June 30, 2014, 10:31:23 PM
Great idea! Wonderful for savannahs and the like.
Title: Re: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: fred on June 30, 2014, 10:54:39 PM
Does anyone know what this kind of material is called in the UK? Some googling of likely terms hasn't returned anything.

If it is available in Germany has anyone seen it in Lidel or Aldi?
Title: Re: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: Turbo-Ben on June 30, 2014, 11:28:14 PM
Does anyone know what this kind of material is called in the UK? Some googling of likely terms hasn't returned anything.

If it is available in Germany has anyone seen it in Lidel or Aldi?

Yep, they usually have it once or twice a year when they also have wallpaint and all that stuff.
Title: Re: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: Too Bo Coo on June 30, 2014, 11:40:00 PM
Try an automotive supply shop, its a material often used under the carpeting.  You can also try a shop that sells moving supplies, they are also used as cheaper tarps.
Title: Re: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: Mindenbrush on July 01, 2014, 04:12:11 PM
I have some of that - purchased when I was working in Hamburg - and have used it for roads by coating it with white/pva glue and fine sand.
Title: Re: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: grant on July 01, 2014, 04:18:46 PM
Very cool!

It's felt here in Canada too. Haven't seen it with the plastic backing, might be worth investigating!
Title: Re: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: Mr. Peabody on July 01, 2014, 04:58:08 PM
Ikea sells anti-slip felt mats made of a material that look just like that. They come in pretty big sizes. The one I have is 5.5'x7.9'....

But it has a very light coat of latex, for the anti-skid / anti-slip feature. Might make working with this a bit more challenging. I have been planning on texturing it with acrylic caulking and making a 'Tobi's mat'.
Title: Re: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: grant on July 01, 2014, 05:37:44 PM
Ikea sells anti-slip felt mats made of a material that look just like that. They come in pretty big sizes. The one I have is 5.5'x7.9'....

But it has a very light coat of latex, for the anti-skid / anti-slip feature. Might make working with this a bit more challenging. I have been planning on texturing it with acrylic caulking and making a 'Tobi's mat'.

My wife has a latex allergy. Like, anaphylaxis allergic. :( . I have seen those, now that you say that.
Title: Re: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: fred on July 01, 2014, 06:08:40 PM
The ikea stopp filt seems a good match, and only £8
http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/10132260/#/90132261
Title: Re: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: Mr. Peabody on July 01, 2014, 06:53:09 PM
That's the one Fred... I should have posted the name.

Funny Ikea names. ;D
Title: Re: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: grant on July 01, 2014, 07:42:56 PM
That's the one Fred... I should have posted the name.

Funny Ikea names. ;D

Their tool set: Fixa.
Title: Re: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: Amalric on July 05, 2014, 10:03:44 PM
Great Idea!!

The ikea stopp filt seems a good match, and only £8
http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/10132260/#/90132261

The Ikea one is even cheaper in the US, only $10.
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/10132260/#/90132261 (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/10132260/#/90132261)
Title: Re: Gaming Matt, Fleece
Post by: Melnibonean on July 07, 2014, 12:55:28 PM
Great work.
I've seen this stuff at a local hardware store close to me and I've been wondering if I could use it to make a terrain mat.
Now I know the answer.

Thanks. IanKH