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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: FramFramson on July 21, 2014, 09:15:39 AM
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Hi folks,
I understand that someone on here once posted some pictures of the Old Glory 28mm, but I can't seem to find them (though I did find a couple of posts referring to them as the only images available ::) ). It's specifically regular infantry that I'm after (and also there are apparently some motorcycle scouts in lighter kit? i.e no greatcoats?)
Does anyone know where those pictures are and if the figures are roughly comparable to Artizan?
Thanks!
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I think You will find they are closer to Crusader or Warlord. Artizan are chunky, especially the heads
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oldglory15 win the award of the most pathetic on line store !
i'm too, quite interested in the Battle Honors 28mm french .
but i won't buy minis when i don't know, from the website what figures i find in a 17$ pack .
alpine infantry : (http://diceoflegends.blogspot.fr/2013/12/bolt-action-early-war-french-update.html)
mechanized troops (http://thisveryblog.blogspot.fr/2011/02/28mm-dragons-portes-platoon-france-1940.html)
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I think You will find they are closer to Crusader or Warlord. Artizan are chunky, especially the heads
Urrrgh, rats. I had thought they were quite a bit larger than Warlord.
Are there any alternatives that would be a better fit for Artizan's truncated range?
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Are there any OG WWII in 28mm? I only thought they did WWII in 15mm?
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there are 28mm battle honors sold by old glory 15
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Artizan's truncated range?
what do You mean by that? the 5 packs foreign legion?
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Ask and ye shall receive...check out images on my blog...I bought several of the Battle Honors and was very happy with my purchase...
Dragoons Portes
http://diceoflegends.blogspot.com/2014/03/painted-early-war-french-dragons-portes.html
Mortar Team and Medic, Group Franc
http://diceoflegends.blogspot.com/2014/03/more-early-war-french-done.html
Alpine Chaussers
http://diceoflegends.blogspot.com/2013/12/bolt-action-early-war-french-update.html
Review and in Raw metal form:
http://diceoflegends.blogspot.com/2013/08/review-battle-honors-french-groupe.html
Also, you can buy most Battle Honors from "War Web" that is where I went, the price was $11 or $12 a pack, not sure if they ship overseas or cost...but may be worth checking.
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What about Gorgon studios, they have early war FFL by mike owen, perhaps head swaps?
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very specialized uniform I'm afraid, works only with chasseurs alpins
but the battle honours ones look actually not bad at all.
are the officers with SMG and kepi conversions? Crusader miniatures I guess?
here are a few more links
http://s151.photobucket.com/user/Radar454/library/Dragons%20Portee?sort=3&page=1
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=198942
http://www.gajominis.com/2ww25/2wwfr25list.html
oh, it appears the Warlord ones are even smaller
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c161/aecurtis/Wargaming/Figures/BHBAMBHBAM.jpg)
from left to right: Battle Honors, Bolt Action, Battle Honors, Bolt Action
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Thanks for the pics, folks.
what do You mean by that? the 5 packs foreign legion?
Right. I need a few regular infantrymen for pre-war home guard type stuff. Artizan's French WWII range does not include any "regular army" elements. Greatcoated infantry would probably be okay if getting figures in lighter kit is way too much of a hassle.
I need them to roughly match Copplestone/Artizan. Warlord Bolt Action is significantly smaller (and it's very noticeable in terms of guns, kit, etc.).
I thought Old Glory might do the trick. Styx's photos show that OG's French infantry are indeed bigger than Warlord, though it's hard to tell how they might match up with Artizan/Copplestone. The pictures seem to indicate a lot of the OG figures are in crouching or running poses so it's a little hard to tell! lol
To tell the truth, it's possible I might just be able to use some WWI figures painted khaki. The old kit would work for local call-up soldiers. The main issue there is scale again.
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You can use almost any WW1 stuff, since the reserve army was issued old stock, up to the horizon blue uniforms. the only problem are the lebel rifles in great numbers, but you can shorten them to carbine easily. the only nono are the forage cap and kepi for other ranks, the latter being reserved for the legion. Scarab or GWM should be OK, as well as Woodbine
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Right, well it'll be Adrians I want anyway.
Scarab is a decent choice. Brigade Games is on the larger side too, I believe?
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too be honest, I would like to know. They are from different sculptors I believe, and some of them look very Mike Owen. I have only some sailors, and these are not very large, but the submarine crews are
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Why not trying crusader miniatures ?
i've got the 25mm gun, very nice minis, they fit nice with artizan / coppleston ! and the range is complete with heavy weapons , VB, 24/29 etc .....
http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/list.php?cat=9&sub=23&page=1
best regards
paco
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I use Crusader french too, I will post some comparison pics later, but they are more naturally built and less strong reliefed than Artizan or even Empress (or other Paul Hicks sculpts).
The main issue is the head proportion, and while I do not bother much if it fits the miniature well, other people might not like it. The helmeted heads however are a different thing, the helmets are well sculpted and might balance out proportion issues.
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I'm surprised the Crusader miniatures fit with larger ones as they look a little stubby to me. But I guess pictures would tell?
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I'm surprised the Crusader miniatures fit with larger ones as they look a little stubby to me. But I guess pictures would tell?
If you check my blog on Dice of Legends, I have shots of my French - Crusader, Black Tree and Warlord as well as Battle Honors. To me they match up very well and once mixed in units they look fine on the table.
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I think it might be the time to compile a sticky thread about resoorces for the french army of the first half of the 20th century, what do You think?
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yeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssssssssss ;)
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If you check my blog on Dice of Legends, I have shots of my French - Crusader, Black Tree and Warlord as well as Battle Honors. To me they match up very well and once mixed in units they look fine on the table.
That actually makes me think they're smaller. Warlord are nearly a full head shorter than Copplestone/Artizan and have very obviously smaller kit.
I think it might be the time to compile a sticky thread about resoorces for the french army of the first half of the 20th century, what do You think?
That would be nice! :D
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That actually makes me think they're smaller. Warlord are nearly a full head shorter than Copplestone/Artizan and have very obviously smaller kit.
That would be nice! :D
That may be so with Copplestone or Artizan, I only have the above named in my collection, even the small variance is fine as if you look around people are all different heights from 4' something to 6'+ so to me that is more real as not everyone is the same height, build and looks like a Space Marine of uniform height...
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people are all different heights from 4' something to 6'+ so to me that is more real as not everyone is the same height,
Yes, we had that
it is basically about the different sculpting styles, mirrored in the body proportions, that can vary wildly; not so much about the actual size difference. Also, even if equipment can vary and was issued in different sizes, there is not that much variation in industrialized production. An army is different from a gang of Old West outlaws.
Anyway, here some comparison pics, first one a deliberate convolute,
from L to R - Artizan WW2, Renegade WW1 with headswap, Woodbine, Old Glory CIC, Crusader, Artizan renegade, Foundry
the second a hodgepodge actually designed to be a unit
as You can see, I am fine with even the ones that pop the large heads, Foundry, Renegade and the resin headswap in heroic 28 from Kromlech.
As to the resource sticky, given the interperiod nature of the collection, where do we put it? Interwar or Pulp?
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It has applicability to Pulp, but it does seem like more of a military resource to me. I'd say Interwar?
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have to ask the mod first