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Title: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Dr. The Viking on July 30, 2014, 08:40:29 AM
I am going to paint Zulu, Mexicans and Texians in 2014.

Any Zulu army worth its salt would have a lot of figures. I don't like painting loads of similar figures.
So in order to have just a reasonable chance of completing some Zulu I have chosen to use the method described below.


Here is the first test Zulu:

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-W_3Mve6GO4Y/U9ie42MhZiI/AAAAAAAAKZ8/YxQVN2EGHUw/s700/P1270471.JPG)

I simply painted the entire figure with a gloss brown spray, blocked in the details and washed it with a black wash (Army Painter).

I then painted up the colours again.

I think the result is good. In fact better than hoped for. And within the realm of realism with regards to completing 64 of the blighters.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-EltyxNgDgZc/U9ie7l-2URI/AAAAAAAAKZs/Mmy-9ox9QJU/s700/P1270479.JPG)
After and before

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AO2dN5V_Qdc/U9ie6ONV8JI/AAAAAAAAKZ0/iapEMmhrkDc/s700/P1270475.JPG)
Before
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Mason on July 30, 2014, 09:11:01 AM
That is a damn fine result.
 :-* :-*


Good thinking, that man!
 8) :D 8)

Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: matthais-mouse on July 30, 2014, 10:20:47 AM
Very nice indeed, simple yet very effective.  :)

I look forward to seeing more :)
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: former user on July 30, 2014, 10:44:55 AM
the result is very convincing.

but - what do You mean by:
"I then painted up the colours again. "
everything but the skin colour? with the same colours as before?
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Malamute on July 30, 2014, 10:48:44 AM
That is a damn fine result.
 :-* :-*






Seconded. :)

Awesome sauce :D
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Jonas on July 30, 2014, 10:54:34 AM
Great end result!

The sprayed "before" dude looks horrible though, so great thing that it works out in the end.
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 30, 2014, 11:22:27 AM
Awesome sauce :D

Seconded  :D

Totesamazeballs  :D

cheers

James
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Mason on July 30, 2014, 12:20:34 PM
Totesamazeballs  :D

Really???
 ;D ;D

Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Dr. The Viking on July 30, 2014, 01:07:40 PM
That is a damn fine result.
 :-* :-*


Good thinking, that man!
 8) :D 8)



Yeah, well, thanks! Hardly a new approach, but I just found the results were good.  :D

Very nice indeed, simple yet very effective.  :)

I look forward to seeing more :)

Thanks and so do I!

the result is very convincing.

but - what do You mean by:
"I then painted up the colours again. "
everything but the skin colour? with the same colours as before?

Well, I suppose I mean 'highlighted all colours with the colours I used for blocking out before washing'. The skin colour was highlighted with Bloodtracker Brown (which seemed suitable).

I varnished it all with dull cote.

Seconded. :)

Awesome sauce :D

Cheerio!!

Great end result!

The sprayed "before" dude looks horrible though, so great thing that it works out in the end.

Yeah I was a bit afraid after looking at the sprayed ones iniatially.  lol

Seconded  :D

Totesamazeballs  :D

cheers

James
Really???
 ;D ;D


Better than blue balls I suppose.

Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Ray Rivers on July 30, 2014, 01:20:39 PM
Wow...

What a "before and after" difference! Reminds me of those weight commercials..  :D

Well done. Looking forward to see your Zulu horde!
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Malamute on July 30, 2014, 02:56:13 PM
Really???
 ;D ;D



Yep,

They're Shamazing :D
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 30, 2014, 04:29:44 PM
They're Shamazing :D

Yep

Like totes mmmm  :D

cheers

James
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: grobut on July 30, 2014, 08:20:51 PM
Looks exelent! Paint more now  :D
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Mason on July 30, 2014, 08:29:16 PM
Totesamazeballs  :D

Like totes mmmm  :D

I hope you dont go forgetting yourself and go talking like that when you go back oop North.

Tar and feathers will be on the menu.
 ;)



Now....where are the rest of those Zulus we were promised.
 :D

Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: janner on August 01, 2014, 07:35:43 PM
After is definitely better than before  ;)
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Dr. The Viking on August 01, 2014, 08:15:24 PM
After is definitely better than before  ;)

haha! Thanks! Where's your thread this year :-X lol


Anyway I have twelve of the little buggers almost done now. Weeeehoooo!

Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Dr. The Viking on August 02, 2014, 07:44:01 AM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-EBWBqWjQtfQ/U9yHOjCs9WI/AAAAAAAAKa0/M1y0585Ye88/w1044-h400-no/P1270487.JPG)

The entry for August - a twelve man rifle group.

I will be using Triumph and Tragedy for my games of Zulu War and in these rules up to a quarter of the force is allowed to wield rifles. I thought it was a nice starting unit to make.

The rules also state that one unit must consist of at least 20 figures. Making this unit will be my aim for September. All other units can be between 12-20 figures. I think I will go for the lower figure in most cases.

I was surprised to learn from the leaflet in the Warlord Games box, that the zulu had organized their forces inspired by the British. Especially that shield designs were not random but rather uniform!



Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: OSHIROmodels on August 02, 2014, 07:50:37 AM
For such a simple technique they look the nuts mate  8) 8) 8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Dr DeAth on August 02, 2014, 08:30:55 AM
Impressive,  looking at the 'before' figure I'd not have thought you'd get such good results on the finished item.
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: former user on August 02, 2014, 09:00:05 AM
For such a simple technique they look the nuts mate

this!
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Mason on August 02, 2014, 09:48:21 AM
They do indeed look the danglies.
Nicely finished, sir.
 8) :-* 8)

Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: pocoloco on August 02, 2014, 10:00:21 AM
Bloody marvelous looking poltroons!  :-*

"The generality of Zulu warriors, however, would not have firearms – the arms of a coward, as they said, for they enable the poltroon to kill the brave without awaiting his attack."

The end result is amazing, gorgeous work. Yet I am quite sure if I were to try that, the end result wouldn't look half as good. So you must use some kind of magic  :)
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Mason on August 02, 2014, 10:04:37 AM
..... So you must use some kind of magic  :)

Crazy Viking Magic!
 :D

Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: matthais-mouse on August 02, 2014, 11:47:35 AM
Very nice indeed :-)
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Ray Rivers on August 02, 2014, 01:11:27 PM
Outrageous!  :-*

Yes, you are correct about the shields. Wargames Factory has an excellent article on Zulu regiments and shields.

I've included the .pdf document for you to take a look at. Scroll down about mid way where they start describing the different regiments and you will see pictures of their shields.

Look at bottom of my post for .pdf attachment.
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Dr. The Viking on August 02, 2014, 02:31:24 PM
For such a simple technique they look the nuts mate  8) 8) 8)

cheers

James

Thanks, well yeah I guess the Zulu army just takes well to this process due to the colours.

Impressive,  looking at the 'before' figure I'd not have thought you'd get such good results on the finished item.

Hehe well, I had my doubts too!

They do indeed look the danglies.
Nicely finished, sir.
 8) :-* 8)



Finished!? Haha! There's 52 of the turds yet!  lol

Bloody marvelous looking poltroons!  :-*

"The generality of Zulu warriors, however, would not have firearms – the arms of a coward, as they said, for they enable the poltroon to kill the brave without awaiting his attack."

The end result is amazing, gorgeous work. Yet I am quite sure if I were to try that, the end result wouldn't look half as good. So you must use some kind of magic  :)

Well, if you know how to handle a brush I think it is fairly straight forward.

Poltroon?! Haha what a brilliant word. I never heard it before.

Crazy Viking Magic!
 :D



It's magick!  ;D

Very nice indeed :-)

Tank yous!

Outrageous!  :-*

Yes, you are correct about the shields. Wargames Factory has an excellent article on Zulu regiments and shields.

I've included the .pdf document for you to take a look at. Scroll down about mid way where they start describing the different regiments and you will see pictures of their shields.

Look at bottom of my post for .pdf attachment.

Brilliant! Thanks for the PDF!
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: janner on August 02, 2014, 04:35:42 PM
haha! Thanks! Where's your thread this year :-X lol


Anyway I have twelve of the little buggers almost done now. Weeeehoooo!



Good point, I'll update the 30k stuff as I cracked some 2.5k points this summer ;)
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: FramFramson on August 02, 2014, 05:16:37 PM
This batch is turning out very well!
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Dr Mathias on August 02, 2014, 05:31:26 PM
Nice work, and useful information for when I get to my Zulus! I have the T&T rules but haven't read through enough to digest it :)
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: gamer Mac on August 02, 2014, 05:39:44 PM
Really like the skin tones on these, cracking work :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: syrinx0 on August 04, 2014, 02:57:57 AM
Great looking unit.
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Dr. The Viking on August 15, 2014, 01:52:29 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/xBLwcMw-zvINXKOCjsR59PmVTtZXA0QDfO5GLxEwa5E=w1044-h319-no)

The horns are growing!

20 man Zulu old boys unit.  This will be the 'main unit'.  I need to retake this photo... seems one of the lamps caught a shield at a bad angle!


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-M3lMzRNTRKE/U-3-gvM3baI/AAAAAAAAKjg/43o-29bkX8g/w1044-h246-no/P1270605.JPG)
The lot of what's been painted so far

I soon need to order more Zulus!!!  :o
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Ray Rivers on August 15, 2014, 02:30:04 PM
Wow!

Those are Zuluishish!  :-*
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Mason on August 15, 2014, 03:13:13 PM
Excellent!
 :-*

You really are steaming through these.
 8) 8)
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: OSHIROmodels on August 15, 2014, 05:11:48 PM
Usthutu  :D

Great stuff mate  8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: janner on August 16, 2014, 07:58:34 AM
Like these :)
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: former user on August 16, 2014, 08:25:02 AM
I am still stunned with Your painting technique

maybe You can do a tutorial ocasionally, for idiots like me please? the inbetween the  dipped figure and the end result still appears like magic to me
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Malamute on August 16, 2014, 03:55:03 PM
Excellent stuff Matey :-*
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Dr. The Viking on December 23, 2014, 01:46:07 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/0FWQ3JfFy4Ne0F5Z9qI8c5_F6uUxhlUofn5KvlEW8_8=w1044-h296-no)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-XKSHYl-x59U/VJlxSmj7dRI/AAAAAAAALRI/EyX2-5aKVuA/w1043-h277-no/P1270854.JPG)

the unmarried impi of Shaka Luwless. The world's population of marsupilami probably suffered a lot from making these.

And there we are... I need to paint another 16 of these to complete my army painter!



Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Dr DeAth on December 23, 2014, 02:05:37 PM
Top quality paint job there - very nice indeed

Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on December 23, 2014, 02:54:47 PM
Wow  :o That looks so damn good!
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Dr Mathias on December 23, 2014, 03:54:09 PM
Excellent, I love seeing massed up Zulus.
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: OSHIROmodels on December 23, 2014, 05:26:32 PM
Fantastic work mate  8) 8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Dr. The Viking on December 23, 2014, 06:03:45 PM
Thanks people! You spoil these figures with your kind words. It is actually still the very fast speed paint strategy (by my standards) that I laid out in the very beginning of this thread.  lol

Top quality paint job there - very nice indeed

Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: janner on December 24, 2014, 09:38:30 AM
More great stuff  :D
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Vanvlak on December 24, 2014, 10:27:43 AM
Wow,stunning stuff - only just stumbled on this thread.  8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Melnibonean on December 26, 2014, 11:17:17 AM
Amazing to see that such a simple painting method can yield such great results.
If ever I'm painting Zulu's then I'll have to remember it.
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Dr. The Viking on July 13, 2015, 09:23:31 PM
A little overdue but I have now finished 96 of these!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MS3wFNcJGB0/VaQb-WWaAxI/AAAAAAAAMC8/4Bi7VLy93So/s912-Ic42/P1280348.JPG)

Still enjoying it all. I have promised myself not to buy neither Warlord nor Wargames Factory plastics again. The Warlord ones are actually decent, but I simply detest putting together plastics and having to scrape off mould lines... I find metal miniatures are less problematic with regards to this. So no more plastic Zulu for me. Unless the Perry's make some... then I will buy those.

So for the next 96 I will go for metal miniatures. There are plenty to choose from.




Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 13, 2015, 09:33:20 PM
Great stuff mate and they look rather bloody en masse  8) 8) 8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Malamute on July 13, 2015, 10:29:07 PM
Impressive, love the ageing Indunas at the front. :-*
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Jeff965 on July 13, 2015, 10:34:16 PM
How did I miss this, these are lovely  :-* :-* I'll have to visit this part of the forum more often lol.
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Dr. The Viking on July 14, 2015, 08:10:36 AM
Great stuff mate and they look rather bloody en masse  8) 8) 8)

cheers

James

Just wait till I finish the next two thirds.  lol

Impressive, love the ageing Indunas at the front. :-*

Thanks.  The project was originally meant for triumph and tragedy bit I think I will attempt to go all the way to black powder.

How did I miss this, these are lovely  :-* :-* I'll have to visit this part of the forum more often lol.

Thank you.  Now I have time to get back to boot Hill figures. Haha. 

No, I really ought to get this topic moved to the colonial board.
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Atheling on July 14, 2015, 09:16:43 AM
I am going to paint Zulu, Mexicans and Texians in 2014.

Any Zulu army worth its salt would have a lot of figures. I don't like painting loads of similar figures.
So in order to have just a reasonable chance of completing some Zulu I have chosen to use the method described below.


Here is the first test Zulu:

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-W_3Mve6GO4Y/U9ie42MhZiI/AAAAAAAAKZ8/YxQVN2EGHUw/s700/P1270471.JPG)

I simply painted the entire figure with a gloss brown spray, blocked in the details and washed it with a black wash (Army Painter).

I then painted up the colours again.

I think the result is good. In fact better than hoped for. And within the realm of realism with regards to completing 64 of the blighters.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-EltyxNgDgZc/U9ie7l-2URI/AAAAAAAAKZs/Mmy-9ox9QJU/s700/P1270479.JPG)
After and before

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AO2dN5V_Qdc/U9ie6ONV8JI/AAAAAAAAKZ0/iapEMmhrkDc/s700/P1270475.JPG)
Before

With results as good as this I have to ask, where did you get the brown gloss spray and which manufacture?

Darrell.
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Dr. The Viking on July 14, 2015, 11:23:36 AM
I believe it was a Plastikote brown standard spray. Nothing special.
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Mason on July 14, 2015, 11:29:57 AM
Brilliant!
That is a most impressive sight, CV.
 :-* :-*

Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Dr. Moebius on July 14, 2015, 09:54:15 PM
Just amazing!
Thanks for sharing.

You have the skill I will always miss, painting lots of miniatures in a very fast time to a great standard.

Impressive.

Dr. Moebius

 
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: NurgleHH on July 16, 2015, 07:38:59 AM
A little overdue but I have now finished 96 of these!

So, you only have to do 3904 to get Rorke's drift. I think you can do it until the next tactica in February.  ;)
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Dr. The Viking on July 16, 2015, 08:00:16 AM
So, you only have to do 3904 to get Rorke's drift. I think you can do it until the next tactica in February.  ;)

I a aiming at a modest 400 though. It will be a couple of years yet.

I finally found out how to base it all so that is well.
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Atheling on July 17, 2015, 10:31:53 AM
I believe it was a Plastikote brown standard spray. Nothing special.

Could I press you to be a little more specific if possible please- these are the one's available from amazon in th UK:

Plasti-kote 22113 400ml Premium Spray Paint Satin - Chocolate Brown

Plasti-kote 21108 400ml Premium Spray Paint Gloss - Chestnut Brown

Plasti-kote 1291 400ml Metal Protekt - Brown

Plasti-kote Fast Dry Enamel 100ml Aerosol Nut Brown

Plasti-kote Premium Spray Paint Satin 400ml Choc Brown

Any of the above?

If I can get the technique down then this could save me a lot of time on those Beja :)

Don't suppose you fancy doing a step-by-step, pretty please? :)

Darrell.
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Dr. The Viking on July 17, 2015, 10:41:44 AM
Could I press you to be a little more specific if possible please- these are the one's available from amazon in th UK:

Plasti-kote 22113 400ml Premium Spray Paint Satin - Chocolate Brown

Plasti-kote 21108 400ml Premium Spray Paint Gloss - Chestnut Brown

Plasti-kote 1291 400ml Metal Protekt - Brown

Plasti-kote Fast Dry Enamel 100ml Aerosol Nut Brown

Plasti-kote Premium Spray Paint Satin 400ml Choc Brown

Any of the above?

If I can get the technique down then this could save me a lot of time on those Beja :)

Don't suppose you fancy doing a step-by-step, pretty please? :)

Darrell.

Aha!

It is the 21108 chestnut brown.

About the tut - I will happily do so... Once I get some Zulu. I ran out.

But it was very simple. Block colours Armypainter Dark Tone and then colour again. Eyes, tongues etc ad libitum.
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Atheling on July 17, 2015, 10:49:45 AM
Aha!

It is the 21108 chestnut brown.

About the tut - I will happily do so... Once I get some Zulu. I ran out.

But it was very simple. Block colours Armypainter Dark Tone and then colour again. Eyes, tongues etc ad libitum.

Great, i'll order some now.

I've pretty much got the rest down- had a little bit of painting experience  :D

Darrell.
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Atheling on July 17, 2015, 10:54:06 AM
Just before I order, it was the Gloss, yeah?

Darrell.
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Dr. The Viking on July 17, 2015, 11:01:51 AM
Just before I order, it was the Gloss, yeah?

Darrell.

I did indeed use gloss. I don't kow if it makes any difference. The thought was that the armypainter wash would flow in to the recesses more smoothly with gloss.

I hope you can make it work. There's no magic to it.
Title: Re: Viking Expedition to Natal
Post by: Atheling on July 17, 2015, 12:10:42 PM
I did indeed use gloss. I don't kow if it makes any difference. The thought was that the armypainter wash would flow in to the recesses more smoothly with gloss.

I hope you can make it work. There's no magic to it.

Thanks matey  8).

Darrell.