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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Momotaro on August 15, 2014, 08:58:09 PM
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Well Fantasy Flight Games are going all-out on Star Wars boardgames:
http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=4994 (http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=4994)
Linked scenariod in Campaign Mode, but there's a straight-up skirmish mode too.
Bet there will be about a million expansion packs for this...
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Could be worth it for the figures alone ???
cheers
James
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Could be worth it for the figures alone ???
Could be - they'll be "boardgame" plastic, I suspect, but even those minis are good these days.
$100/£70 is the RRP - looks like it comes with FFG's trademark pile of cards and counters too :)
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Yep, looks good. Also ally and villain packs to add on to it sound pretty cool. The ATST looks cool :)
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Ooooh!
:D
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Oh man.... This is gonna cause me all kinds of problems. lol
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I may have missed it, did it give a scale?
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It should be in FFG's usual 28mm-ish scale; that means, it's between 28mm and 25mm, with realistic proportions and in bendy plastic, but pre-glued multi-part for larger figures and great detail. These are not "Heroic Scale" so they look rather slight next to the usual stuff that's out there.
I'll just report my own thread OP and let this other one be closed.
http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=4994
Just came upon this quite amazing piece of news on TMP.
(http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/imperial-assault/SWI01_box_left.png)
Fantasy Flight Games is developing a Star Wars game with similar mechanics to Descent and Doom: The Board Game. One player controls the Imperial Forces and up to four others play totgether as the Rebels with distinct characters. The game features the usual FFG mix of highly detailed 28mm-ish miniatures of Stormtroopers, Krayt Dragons, Wookie Warriors, and even huge 3x2 AT-STs! The game is set immediately after the second Death Star's destruction and the board game tiles depict the forests of Endor as well as base interiors.
There is a story-driven campaign mode where both Rebels and Imperials can enhance their forces, and also a skirmish mode where two players field combat teams in seperate scenarios. The main game has two extra packs including which contains miniatures and rules for Luke skywalker and Darth Vader (however he is still alive, I have no idea ;) ) and also new scenarios.
Phew! I'm not that big of a SW fans but I'm still rather excited and I wonder how much the Force will feature. I assume that the game will be a smash hit and many expansions will follow. Go FFG! :)
(http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/imperial-assault/SWI01-ProductLayout.png)
(http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/imperial-assault/SWI01-plastic.png)
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Could be worth it for the figures alone
My thought exactly, looks good so far!
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well Miniaturewise i'm sorted with all my Knight Models/Wizkid Stuff o_o Very nice looking Miniatures nonetheless,though a rather crude Mix of Personalities methinks,i hate everything from the Mannequin Skywalker Films,hope that Tiger/Beast Thingie is optional >:D
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What is "Mannequin Skywalker Films"?
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What is "Mannequin Skywalker Films"?
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I think it's a reference to the prequels.
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I think it's a reference to the prequels.
yup lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxAEo3CWeq8
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I still have hundreds of the WotC figures, but I bought collections on eBay and snapped up a lot of bargain characters. I'm missing things like speeder bikes that were rare and went for silly prices at auction. So it's nice to see heavy blasters and probots in the base set.
I think FFG see 28mm as having crossover potential with minis games. Battlelore 2 went to that scale with the minis last year after the original game was closer to 20mm.
So yeah, I have high hopes!
They're also pretty good with the expansion pack schedule for other games. Descent 2, on which they have explicity based this game, has a good range of campaign sets, generic expansions and individual bad guys.
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yup lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxAEo3CWeq8
OK, the linked clip is funny, but please, please do not start the whole Ep. 1-3 was bad thing again... ::)
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I've been looking to scratch a scifi itch - this could hit the spot !
That walker does look rather hot!
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What's the second hand market like for x-wing ships?
cheers
James
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What's the second hand market like for x-wing ships?
cheers
James
40,000 credits , but only on Nal Hutta , otherwise they retail at 60,000 !
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Board game, bendy plastic... Hmm. :?
At least they'll be cheaper than Knight Minis.
Mannequin Skywalker. Very good. Need to use that sometime when I'm feeling very nerdy. Which is quite often.
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40,000 credits , but only on Nal Hutta , otherwise they retail at 60,000 !
Berdum ching ;D
cheers
James
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I've got their Gears of War set and the figure plastic is pretty good. A bit bendy, but only a problem on very thin bits like gun barrels. Great detail though. Definitely quality miniatures. If these are the same quality, it'll be a must-have!
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I still have hundreds of the WotC figures, but I bought collections on eBay and snapped up a lot of bargain characters. I'm missing things like speeder bikes that were rare and went for silly prices at auction. So it's nice to see heavy blasters and probots in the base set.
I think FFG see 28mm as having crossover potential with minis games. Battlelore 2 went to that scale with the minis last year after the original game was closer to 20mm.
So yeah, I have high hopes!
They're also pretty good with the expansion pack schedule for other games. Descent 2, on which they have explicity based this game, has a good range of campaign sets, generic expansions and individual bad guys.
I'm still using the old WEG ( i passed WOC) it would be a really nice surpirse for me if the scale, as you said, become more 20 mm than 28mm. A big Hurrah! for the 1st that can provide us a comparison pic!.
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I confess I'm not a big Star Wars geek (just an average one) but games like this with mixed series bug me. lol I'd have rather seen a dozen storm troopers etc.
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It should be in FFG's usual 28mm-ish scale; that means, it's between 28mm and 25mm, with realistic proportions and in bendy plastic, but pre-glued multi-part for larger figures and great detail. These are not "Heroic Scale" so they look rather slight next to the usual stuff that's out there.
A friend of mine saw these at GenCon, and said they looked more like 30-35mm HeroClix size. While I don't prefer this size, one benefit would be better compatibility with the previous collectible minis. Of course, that means they'd be even worse next to the old WEG minis, but you cant win 'em all.
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A friend of mine saw these at GenCon, and said they looked more like 30-35mm HeroClix size. While I don't prefer this size, one benefit would be better compatibility with the previous collectible minis. Of course, that means they'd be even worse next to the old WEG minis, but you cant win 'em all.
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DAMN IT!!!! >:(
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Following with the scale controversial ( Lol)
how about the dice size?they're all standard, or am i wrong? What do u think for comparison?
Here's a couple links.
Tell me what you fell, gents.
o_o
https://www.flickr.com/photos/hexis/14932251872/in/set-72157646101019419
https://www.flickr.com/photos/hexis/14909620996/in/set-72157646101019419
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I can't wait until the box contents are revealed properly so I can go into concurrent cardiac arrest and froth mode. Good times ahoy!
I get that some people might be wondering about the mix in the pics, but unless I'm mistaken those are all just renders and at 100 yankee-bucks the box will contain at least as much plastic toys as Descent. Which this is, btw... a re-skinned Descent. In spaaaace. Love it!
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Can't wait for this baby to arrive at my gaming table, I'll be playing the campaign as well as the skirmish mode and hope some of my friends will pick this up too otherwise I'd be a poor guy at the end of next year :P
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Right, so... a bit of thread necromancy.
My copy arrived today... I was always going to get this... :D
Very first thoughts:
Figures look about the right-ish size for 30-32mm at first glance, too big alongside the likes of Hasslefree. Plastic is stiffer than the usual "boardgame plastic" and has nice crisp detail on the pieces - pretty close to styrene. I managed to break the gun barrels on the walker slotting them in, so... not so bendy! Doofus lol Luke and Vader in the base game.
There's been some discussion about the price of the expansion packs - for the first wave, all the stats are in the core box along with card tokens for Han, Chewie and others. Nice move.
Rules look shortish - core of 16 pages including a tutorial and an introduction to the campaign game. There's a separate 28-page reference booklet for working out more complex rules interactions.
Components are up to the usual high FFG standard. The dice are very like the custom dice for the RPG - all D6, but different colours and symbols on the dice. Tons and tons of equipment, mission and special ability/move cards. Cardstock map pieces are sturdy and interlock, and the grid is quite unobtrusive.
Skirmish booklet is 8 pages - really just how to choose a force and set up, plus a couple of scenarios on a single map.
Campaign is the meat of the game - 30 scenarios including branching storyline and side quests. Impressive amount of play in here.
For your £80 there is a lot of stuff in there, and a lot of gaming. Minis look sweet, and adding in the stat cards for the Wave 1 expansions was a nice touch.
Will get some comparison photos with the WotC plastics and other minis up in the light tomorrow.
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If you need anyone to play it with I might know someone! :D
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If you need anyone to play it with I might know someone! :D
Might have read the rules by Tuesday :D
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Yes, please show some comparison shots with figures you have!
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Might have read the rules by Tuesday :D
Be sure that you do :D
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Be sure that you do :D
Right you are Darth G lol
Ahem...
As promised, comparison with the WotC minis and a space marine. I think in the end I'd say that they're big, and wouldn't mix with the old WEG figures at all. Pretty close to the WotC minis, though several would be taller up straight and they do appear chunkier.
Be your own judge...
First up - detail shots of a couple of the figures.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d102/momotaro119/ImperialAssault/20141220_130604_zpsx9kqpdwh.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/momotaro119/media/ImperialAssault/20141220_130604_zpsx9kqpdwh.jpg.html)
Rebel scum!
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d102/momotaro119/ImperialAssault/20141220_125741_zpsjxp04kd3.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/momotaro119/media/ImperialAssault/20141220_125741_zpsjxp04kd3.jpg.html)
Imperials
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d102/momotaro119/ImperialAssault/20141220_130102_zpsxux9okck.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/momotaro119/media/ImperialAssault/20141220_130102_zpsxux9okck.jpg.html)
More Imperials
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d102/momotaro119/ImperialAssault/20141220_130158_zps8vquvyxx.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/momotaro119/media/ImperialAssault/20141220_130158_zps8vquvyxx.jpg.html)
Even more Imperials...
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d102/momotaro119/ImperialAssault/20141220_130241_zpsl4cxdc2e.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/momotaro119/media/ImperialAssault/20141220_130241_zpsl4cxdc2e.jpg.html)
Probot and neutrals
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d102/momotaro119/ImperialAssault/20141220_130431_zpspchonrrh.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/momotaro119/media/ImperialAssault/20141220_130431_zpspchonrrh.jpg.html)
Walkers. The WotC one is stretched up, but the cabins appear a similar size.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d102/momotaro119/ImperialAssault/20141220_130512_zpscbdlzjuc.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/momotaro119/media/ImperialAssault/20141220_130512_zpscbdlzjuc.jpg.html)
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Thanks For Scale shots, I may check this out, Have some of the WOTC minis these 2 lines look like they will scale well.
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Thanks for the scale shots, now I am waiting even more eager for me box!
:)
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Looks like I'll be bale to mix & match my plethora of WotC figs in with the FFG figs for extra poses. Still not sure about that AT-ST, it just looks too stunty to me. The WotC one is a bit tall, the FFG one a bit short and while I understand bulking out the lower legs for stability, it looks a bit off. The cabin is certainly better though, and I never did like the closed "eye" viewports on the WotC AT-ST.
Either way, gonna have to wait till after christmas before I pick it up :( Bah, humbug!
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Thanks for the pics! Eagerly awaiting my copy.
Looks like the Imperial Officer has the worst proportion issues. But it also looks like the CMG version is a good fit for a replacement.
Now if I can just find a cheap Millenium Falcon...
~Eric
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I think the new one are much better than the WOTC ones. Although i prefer the vintage models by West End Games ;D
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Thanks for the photos, now im sold on it :D
More $$$$ I dont have ...
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Definitely going to have to buy this if only for the figures. How are the rules, have you given it a go?
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Definitely going to have to buy this if only for the figures. How are the rules, have you given it a go?
Looks pretty straightforward - attacks and defences are made using the custom dice, which have numbers and symbols to tell you whether a ranged attack hit, how many hits were scored or blocked, and whether extra effects (surges, evades and dodges) were triggered. You can take Strain to power special abilities or move further.
In the skirmish game, you face two forces of equal points off against each other. In the campaign game, the rebel players are significantly stronger and the Imperial player uses Threat points, which increase each round, to activate more and more troops.
The skirmish game has special effect cards you can play, and the campaign game has a ton of extra options - equipment, skills that are bought with XP, side missions.
Will give it a go with Darth Gibson (gibby) on Tuesday and report back.
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Looks pretty straightforward - attacks and defences are made using the custom dice, which have numbers and symbols to tell you whether a ranged attack hit, how many hits were scored or blocked, and whether extra effects (surges, evades and dodges) were triggered. You can take Strain to power special abilities or move further.
In the skirmish game, you face two forces of equal points off against each other. In the campaign game, the rebel players are significantly stronger and the Imperial player uses Threat points, which increase each round, to activate more and more troops.
The skirmish game has special effect cards you can play, and the campaign game has a ton of extra options - equipment, skills that are bought with XP, side missions.
Will give it a go with Darth Gibson (gibby) on Tuesday and report back.
It really sounds like the mechanics from Descent, so all those who have played it will probably find the concepts quite familar.