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Title: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: Lancer on August 21, 2014, 06:00:40 AM
The masters for the orcs turned up this yesterday, so got straight onto making the moulds, that all went well, so have started to build the stock levels up, ready for all the people who have pledged on kickstarter. The pictures of the unit are what the figures look like straight from the mould, no cleaning, just blue tacked onto the bases and blue tacked the shields on as well. I will start cleaning them up and  painting the unit in a couple of days ready for my own army, well chuffed how they have come out .
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/231062375/28mm-orcs
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: beefcake on August 21, 2014, 07:26:32 AM
Hey lancer. They look cool. I' e pledged for 10. Orcs and a shaman, would it be possible to get the leader by himself as well? Not really interested in musicians and standards. Add a couple of pounds to my pledge maybe?
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: Argonor on August 21, 2014, 07:48:06 AM
Nice orkses. I don't have any use for orcs atm, but I hope they'll be around for a long time, hopefully with more companions, 'cause I'll probably want to make a greenskin orc army for God of Battles at some point, if I know myself well....  ::) And these would be great for a unit or two!  :)
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: 3 fingers on August 21, 2014, 09:08:57 AM
Just pledged £35 ,tempted to do shaman again on his own.
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: Conquistador on August 21, 2014, 12:00:48 PM
The masters for the orcs turned up this yesterday, so got straight onto making the moulds, that all went well, so have started to build the stock levels up, ready for all the people who have pledged on kickstarter. The pictures of the unit are what the figures look like straight from the mould, no cleaning, just blue tacked onto the bases and blue tacked the shields on as well. I will start cleaning them up and  painting the unit in a couple of days ready for my own army, well chuffed how they have come out .
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/231062375/28mm-orcs

Very nice but my sleepy brain envisioned the title to mean Orcs with lances...

While not my scale or style preference I find these very nice additions to those with 'oversized'  ;) figures.  I can see these in large numbers looking exceptionally menacing.  Stalin would love them...

Gracias,

Glenn
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: Lancer on August 22, 2014, 10:32:58 AM
Thankyou for your comments guys, and your pledges, beefcake add 1.50 that will do it, send me a message that way I wont forget, and I will get yours boxed up. Looking ahead I want to be able to do a complete army in my range,  it will take a while,  but my sculptor is up for it,  now lancer orcs thats a  thought.
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: Conquistador on August 22, 2014, 01:32:36 PM
Thankyou for your comments guys, and your pledges, beefcake add 1.50 that will do it, send me a message that way I wont forget, and I will get yours boxed up. Looking ahead I want to be able to do a complete army in my range,  it will take a while,  but my sculptor is up for it,  now lancer orcs thats a  thought.

Digression alert.

In Chapzkas? (Chapkas??)  (however itis spelled...)  :o   o_o

I know it is shades of Flintloque but Orcs, Dwarfs. Halflings as Hussars, Lancers, Voltigeurs, Chasseurs, etc., always seemed like it would be visually pleasing.  I can't speak to the rules since I have never had an interest in playing the game I see in the AARs.   :-X

Back on Topic -

Some Lancers, on mounts not too distracting, would be very cool indeed. But remember I don't buy anything larger than 18 mm anymore so my view won't translate into $$$.  Only do it if it pleases you.

Gracias,

Glenn
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: 3 fingers on August 22, 2014, 03:54:08 PM
I love flintloque miniatures and have loads in the loft,I just adore their chunky rustic look,I was going to use some elves as tame martian soldiers for my sharpe in space style setting,but it's been shelved for now.
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: beefcake on August 22, 2014, 09:13:25 PM
Thankyou for your comments guys, and your pledges, beefcake add 1.50 that will do it, send me a message that way I wont forget, and I will get yours boxed up. Looking ahead I want to be able to do a complete army in my range,  it will take a while,  but my sculptor is up for it,  now lancer orcs thats a  thought.
Cool. Just upped the pledge and sent a message through kickstarter.
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: Lancer on August 23, 2014, 08:33:54 PM
Glenn I only ever get figures made that I want myself for my own armies,  very selfish I know.  So now lancers have been mentioned,  I am thinking boar rider or something similar with heavy armour and lance armed, cant think how the lance would look need to work on that. Not sure I want boars but cant think of alternative.  This will drive me mad now till I get it sussed or I decide it was a silly idea and dont want any anyway
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: beefcake on August 23, 2014, 08:35:44 PM
Have you thought of lizards like Komodo dragons?
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: Lancer on August 24, 2014, 03:38:14 AM
Trouble with something like dragon they tend to be stocky so expensive in metal, unless I make him in resin, which works out a lot cheaper but would need to be multipart and would only be able to cast somany a day
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: Conquistador on August 24, 2014, 08:48:17 AM
Trouble with something like dragon they tend to be stocky so expensive in metal, unless I make him in resin, which works out a lot cheaper but would need to be multipart and would only be able to cast somany a day

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/005/cache/komodo-dragon_599_600x450.jpg&imgrefurl=http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/reptiles/komodo-dragon/&h=194&w=259&tbnid=5xdLjnHp8iIuUM:&zoom=1&q=komodo+dragon&tbnh=150&tbnw=200&usg=__4jzmeMNvaCjHBx51N286Ju_7uSs=&docid=D4ldArHDvBheUM&itg=1&client=safari&sa=X&ei=rZb5U4SpA5atyASZjoCgDw&ved=0CIABEPwdMAs

Not so stocky, perhaps.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komodo_dragon


In the wild, an adult Komodo dragon usually weighs around 70 kg (150 lb), although captive specimens often weigh more... According to the Guinness Book of World Records, an average adult male will weigh 79 to 91 kg (174 to 201 lb) and measure 2.59 m (8.5 ft), while an average female will weigh 68 to 73 kg (150 to 161 lb) and measure 2.29 m (7.5 ft)... The largest verified wild specimen was 3.13 m (10.3 ft) long and weighed 166 kg (366 lb), including undigested food...

The question is would these be big enough to bear the weight of an Orc? 

Compare them to horses:

http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/mammals/horse/

Height at the shoulders, 30 to 69 in (76 to 175 cm)...

120 to 2,200 lbs (54 to 998 kg)...

Gracias,

Glenn
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: beefcake on August 24, 2014, 09:04:04 AM
998kgs woah. That's a heavy horse. Just googled it too. Shire stallions, they can get even heavier.
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: Lancer on August 24, 2014, 09:51:54 AM
I am working on the principal orcs are heavier than man let's say 20st,  so it would have to be a heavy horse,  so shire or suffolk would be able to handle an orc ok, but of course every knows horses hate orcs so csnt use them. I am thinking in my mind how lizards would look in a 2 rank unit, and I do see a bit of a problem,  bloody great tail mainly, and if the orc is siiting astride it, the lizard would have to be tall ie a big one, so I can see a nice character figure sitting on his favourite steed with a big lance, but not a unit. So still thinking
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: Vermis on August 24, 2014, 12:03:16 PM
I'm extremely fond of komodo dragons, but I think they'd make absolutely crap mounts. Look at pics of them, starting with the links Glenn posted. Their legs are so short their bellies almost drag on the ground. Not to mention the sprawling posture. They can run, but only in very short bursts. Otherwise their main speeds are 'amble' and 'stop'. They're not built for running: they don't chase prey down in a tense race like you might see on the Serengeti via National Geographic or the BBC. Their whole... motif isn't speed but patience (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EHB_CM86rgk).

Also, see how big they are in that video. 8-9 feet of a long thin body and a long thin tail. Set a 20st orc on that it'd be like riding a sausage dog. A scaly, ravenous sausage dog.

Komodo dragon cav might be the only cav in a game with a movement stat lower than the infantry.

I'm not opposed to orcs riding something scaly and ravenous, but I think it'd have to be a fictional (or prehistoric) something scaly and ravenous.
Or, take another look at the vid for another possibility for orc cav. You could even paint 'yes' and 'no' on it's backside.
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: beefcake on August 24, 2014, 08:39:12 PM
 lol
I was thinking an upscaled komodo dragon, well more something that has the same look but fantasied up more.
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: Tactalvanic on August 24, 2014, 10:50:44 PM
Go different, forget dragony lizardy stuff

Bounce around the Eocene a bit..

Giant Rhino Variants, and interesting predators, but rhinos have already been done,

Maybe go doglike with a Andrewsarchus supposedly the biggest terrestrial meat-eating mammal that ever lived.  Surely to an Orc's taste?

Or maybe go Chalicotherium.

Whatever you choose have fun with it, hell if a company can do dwarfs on giant badgers, you can pretty much upscale whatever you want anyway  :D

Mind you badgers can be damned dangerous normal sized.

Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: Vermis on August 25, 2014, 12:52:05 AM
Whatever you choose have fun with it, hell if a company can do dwarfs on giant badgers, you can pretty much upscale whatever you want anyway  :D

 lol There is that, I suppose. And at least they look better than said company's cat cavalry.

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Bounce around the Eocene a bit..

Creodonts and bear-dogs. There's some 'wargs' right there.
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: beefcake on August 25, 2014, 04:15:21 AM
Even some sort of giant Rat... GIANT rat.
Large beetles maybe, not very orcy though.
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: Lancer on August 25, 2014, 08:28:25 AM
Having looked at most of the suggestions,  I must admit looked at Wikipedia for prehistoric dog and was immediately bitten, excuse pun. They just looked so right and of course you would expect to see them as a pack animal. Will definitely investigate further but think they may be the answer, and of course will work for chariot as well. Thankyou guys new it would help to post the question
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: beefcake on August 26, 2014, 09:25:37 AM
Any plans on other units such as goblins or trolls?
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: Lancer on August 26, 2014, 11:32:11 AM
Had a good chat this morning with my sculptor about the next orc unit and the cavalry, goblins have been mentioned and part of me says it makes sense to do orc then goblin then orc and so on, to build up the range fairly fast. But there is a lot of goblins out there and at the end of the day if I cant sell them I go out of business so I have got to know there is a big enough market for another range  which is always the question.  So bear with me on that but odds are in there favour
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: Lancer on August 26, 2014, 11:33:20 AM
Trolls its a yes
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: Vermis on August 26, 2014, 12:32:05 PM
But there is a lot of goblins out there and at the end of the day if I cant sell them I go out of business so I have got to know there is a big enough market for another range  which is always the question.  So bear with me on that but odds are in there favour

Hope it goes well. :)
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: 3 fingers on August 28, 2014, 09:57:37 PM
Glad it's funded ,can't wait to get them  :)
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: beefcake on August 29, 2014, 06:20:31 AM
Congrats on the successful KS!
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: Lancer on August 29, 2014, 01:32:12 PM
Thanks guys, well chuffed how it all went, collecting all the funds and they should be with me within 2 weeks then all parcels will be sent. Then it would be nice to see how people paint them up. I will be starting kickstart number 2 in about a weeks time, we are going with 20 orcs again, this time 2 weapons ie sword or axes and the character looks like being big boss on a boar. How does that sound
Title: Re: Lancer Orcs complete unit done
Post by: 3 fingers on August 29, 2014, 02:21:59 PM
If similar pricing I will be in, oh don't together my extra shaman please  ;) lol