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Miniatures Adventure => The Great War => Topic started by: Phil Robinson on August 27, 2014, 07:49:05 PM

Title: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: Phil Robinson on August 27, 2014, 07:49:05 PM
Some pics from our recent game to playtest our embryonic rules for the 1914 period

Cavalry Clash
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg43/olafnn/1914006_zps26b4c121.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/olafnn/media/1914006_zps26b4c121.jpg.html)

Over Open Sights
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg43/olafnn/1914007_zpsd6213d28.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/olafnn/media/1914007_zpsd6213d28.jpg.html)

More pics and gibberish over on the blog for interested parties http://newsfromthefront-phil.blogspot.co.uk/
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: Yankeepedlar01 on August 27, 2014, 08:07:35 PM
Super pictures Phil! A great game I thought, though I may be a tad biased there owning to my cavalry's splendid (& very unusual) performance!
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: joroas on August 27, 2014, 08:12:36 PM
Another win, is there no stopping you? 

Excellent looking game....... :o
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: Helen on August 27, 2014, 08:50:39 PM
Thanks Phil for the post-play-test report.

Have you had to consider how many machine guns you both can have in a game?

Thank you.

All the best,

Helen
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: Phil Robinson on August 27, 2014, 10:11:34 PM
Thanks Phil for the post-play-test report.

Have you had to consider how many machine guns you both can have in a game?

Thank you.

All the best,

Helen

Hi Helen, good to see you back.

Don't know about the Brits, Dave will have to answer that, each MG base equals two guns so I have 3 bases in my 3 battalion German regiment. I only have one Jaeger battalion so I have just one MG base attached to it.
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: Helen on August 27, 2014, 10:44:23 PM
Hi Helen, good to see you back.

Don't know about the Brits, Dave will have to answer that, each MG base equals two guns so I have 3 bases in my 3 battalion German regiment. I only have one Jaeger battalion so I have just one MG base attached to it.

Thanks Phil for your reply. Okay, that sounds good.

Have stacks of painting to catch-up on for this period.

Look forward to additional reports.

All the best,

Helen
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: Yankeepedlar01 on August 28, 2014, 08:25:06 AM
Further coverage of the game can be seen now over on my Blog too ~
http://talesfromghq.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/plugging-gap-in-line.html
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh135/Yankeepedlar01/The%20Great%20War%201914/350C4D7C-8970-4817-A5D7-8129C73B3D74_zpsqocarrl2.jpg)
I also try to answer Helen's question about the rules.
David
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: joroas on August 28, 2014, 08:55:30 AM
Quote
try

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ4yd2W50No&feature=player_detailpage
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: Yankeepedlar01 on August 28, 2014, 10:33:08 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ4yd2W50No&feature=player_detailpage
Not gone yet then? ;)
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: joroas on August 28, 2014, 04:33:33 PM
Saturday, just hoping that Icelandic volcano keeps its hat on.
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: nelsons-signal on August 28, 2014, 05:46:40 PM
Really great!  :o :o :o
I really had the early WW1 of my screen and was only thinking about stormtroopers trenches and destroyed areas.

Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: Helen on August 28, 2014, 09:14:36 PM
Further coverage of the game can be seen now over on my Blog too ~
http://talesfromghq.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/plugging-gap-in-line.html
I also try to answer Helen's question about the rules.
David

Thanks David for your reply and nice to read about the history behind this set of rules. Thank you again for your contribution to the hobby.

David, with regards to cyclists are they mounted on bases as infantry or cavalry? Ditto for when they are dismounted. Dixon provide some miniatures for both the Brits and Germans an a bicycle pack is available as well. I've the Brigade model Belge carabinier-cyclistes dismounted which I'll use alongside the Belge cavalry.

Additionally, an as your know doubt aware, the Belge have the Minierva armoured car an as we know they started the conflict with two tourers with a lewis gun mounted in one of them. I welcome your thoughts on this too. Not important at this stage, but would welcome comment.

All the best and thanks again,

Helen
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: janner on August 29, 2014, 09:36:32 AM
Inspiring stuff - although I still shudder at the thought of painting more field grey  lol

Edit: this thread actually got me to test off my final handful of Germans from last year's nearly completed army challenge and base coat them!
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: charla51 on September 05, 2014, 07:27:38 PM
Weren't British field guns and limbers painted in a grey colour scheme in the early days of the war, much like the German s and French?
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: Yankeepedlar01 on September 05, 2014, 07:32:09 PM
Weren't British field guns and limbers painted in a grey colour scheme in the early days of the war, much like the German s and French?
All the ones I've ever seen are green so that will do for me. After all, as I've said to some before, these are only toys in a game. And one of about two dozen periods we play now and again, so it will do for us.
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: janner on September 06, 2014, 08:27:45 AM
All the ones I've ever seen are green so that will do for me. After all, as I've said to some before, these are only toys in a game. And one of about two dozen periods we play now and again, so it will do for us.

Burn the heretic!

 lol lol lol

Many thanks for the inspiration again, I might actually finish my small German force one day ;)
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: Phil Robinson on September 07, 2014, 08:47:38 AM
I have not seen any grey ones either but as Dave says it's a game,  I can't help feeling that it would look like they were giving a birthday salute in Hyde Park though :D
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: charla51 on September 10, 2014, 06:47:23 PM
My question wasn't meant to be a snide remark. I was asking for information. The 13pdr in the IWM, salvaged from the Nery action (although not the gun that was kept firing) was painted khaki-green at a later date. Contemporary postcards and the official painting of the action suggest that L Battery's colour scheme was grey on that day. Thus other RHA and RFA batteries may have sported the same colour scheme in the early weeks of the war.
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: Yankeepedlar01 on September 10, 2014, 07:35:13 PM
My question wasn't meant to be a snide remark.
Since you already appear to have the information you supposedly were asking for your first statement falls a tad short of accuracy.
If you want to paint you guns grey, or even pink, please do so. I'll tootle along painting mine green and we'll both be happy.
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: Phil Robinson on September 10, 2014, 07:57:39 PM
Despite my flippant reply I did not take your query as snide, in fact it got me thinking. Having done a bit of searching there does not appear to be any real concensus on the subject. As you say contempary pictures have them grey, in fact a serving RFA officer did his picture with a grey gun, although guns were supposedly painted "khaki" from the late 1800's there is no reason that some could not still be grey in 1914, it was not a throw away society like today after all, and pictorial evidence suggests it could well have been the case as you say. But as Dave says "khaki" is the excepted colour so thats what folk paint and looks "right" without contempary colour photo's we can only sumise.
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: charla51 on September 11, 2014, 09:51:41 AM
Since you already appear to have the information you supposedly were asking for your first statement falls a tad short of accuracy.
If you want to paint you guns grey, or even pink, please do so. I'll tootle along painting mine green and we'll both be happy.

I suppose what I was asking for was confirmation. Your statement is as useless as a chocolate tea-pot.
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: Phil Robinson on September 11, 2014, 11:40:26 AM
If you read my reply you will see that it cannot be confirmed definateley, so the answer stands do what you want or feel is right, can never understand what why people get so anal about a game of toy soldiers.
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: charla51 on September 11, 2014, 12:18:58 PM
I suppose I'm wondering why the evidence of the contemporary official painting of the action at Nery (2nd Sept 1914), for example, where the guns and limbers are clearly depicted in a grey colour scheme is so often ignored by modellers and wargamers who otherwise crave accuracy in these matters.

As an official painting the artist would have done his research and would be supervised by the military. Unless the officers involved were stereotypical of Staff being so far from the Front that they hadn't a clue what colour the guns might be?

For the record, I think grey guns on the games table look daft for the BEF.
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: janner on September 11, 2014, 12:40:17 PM
If you read my reply you will see that it cannot be confirmed definateley, so the answer stands do what you want or feel is right, can never understand what why people get so anal about a game of toy soldiers.

I was going to make a comment about the benefits of plastic over metal figures in regards to this, but I decided it would be in bad taste...

 lol lol lol
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: charla51 on September 11, 2014, 01:37:56 PM
I was going to make a comment about the benefits of plastic over metal figures in regards to this, but I decided it would be in bad taste...

 lol lol lol

But you made a comment anyway, Janner. Well done. Could you extend it by continuing the 'bad taste' into your mouth?

Before this gets way out of hand, can I say I was simply questioning Yankeepedlar's and others' assumption about a green colour scheme for British field guns in 1914. Is there any hard evidence for a green colour scheme for guns in the early weeks of the war? Whereas the painting of the action at Nery seems to be evidence for a grey colour scheme.

Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: janner on September 11, 2014, 01:54:49 PM
But you made a comment anyway, Janner. Well done. Could you extend it by continuing the 'bad taste' into your mouth?

Thank you for the congratulations, I do my best.

As to any lingering bad taste, my lunchtime tomato soup seems to have sorted that one out just fine.

Toodle pip!
Title: Re: Haszel Bossen, August 1914
Post by: Yankeepedlar01 on September 11, 2014, 05:25:22 PM
A chocolate tea pot? I like that! As to usefulness,about the same as your "contributions" so far. The fact remains that these are my toys in my game. What you may or may not think are really of no interest to me. As I said,paint yours grey if you like,it bothers me not a jot. Try to get some perspective on this please,it really doesn't matter to me what you think, nor does what I think matter to you. Just let it drop eh?