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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Argonor on August 20, 2008, 11:52:09 AM
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I was wondering:
Does anyone remember what the colous on the uniforms stand for in ST and ST:TNG?
I think I remember the following:
ST:
Mustard (or Pistacie): Command
Red: Engineering
Blue: Medical/Science
ST:TNG:
Red: Command
Mustard: Engineering/Security
Blue: Medical Science
Anything else? Was Security Red in ST?
And no, I'm not painting ST crews (hmmm....), but I have another use for the colour coding :)
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Security were red in the original series, yes.
Also, In TNG, while blue was worn by medical staff, science crew wore green (Well, Dax in DS9 did, and so did Troi sometimes, so I'm assuming they were down as general "science" types)
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Try this site
http://www.st-spike.org/pages/uniforms/uniforms.htm
(watch out for the blasted pop-ups though) >:(
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Security were red in the original series, yes.
Also, In TNG, while blue was worn by medical staff, science crew wore green (Well, Dax in DS9 did, and so did Troi sometimes, so I'm assuming they were down as general "science" types)
only green was Kirk's ballet top and his dress uniform... Dax was blue as was Troi...
command (i.e. Captain) was actually a green colour apparently that under the lights, the velour type material came out Gold - Kirks shirt is a different shade to the helmsman's shirts... but they've always been accepted as being the same colour.
Gold - Command/Navigation
Blue - Science/Medical
Red - Engineering/Security
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Try this site
http://www.st-spike.org/pages/uniforms/uniforms.htm
(watch out for the blasted pop-ups though) >:(
I have a pop-up blocker ;)
Nice site for lots of (useful?) information. Quite an encyclopedia, there. 8)
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only green was Kirk's ballet top and his dress uniform... Dax was blue as was Troi..
Really? I could have sworn Troi wore a green uniform on occasion. Especially earlier episodes, as I remember they updated the uniforms later on. I am easy confused mind. Especially when i was really concentrating more on what was in the uniform...
Kirk's green pullover was lovely, I think they should have kept that for the later series.
[quote Zap Brannigan]"MMMMMmmm, that's real velour, Kiff!"[/quote]
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Troi didn't wear a uniform at all in the earlier seasons. She wore civvies, in her case a grey/pink catsuit, or sometimes a green or a blue dress.
In later seasons they decided that the Ship's Counsellor should wear a uniform like everybody else, and she donned the blue version. I guess she grew out of that whole rebellious phase, or was tired of being summoned to the headmaster's office for uniform violations.
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Sure she didn't in the first series? I distinctly remember her in one of the miniskirted versions (you don't forget a formative image like that in a hurry) and they phased them out later on.
You know what? I don't think I want to argue about Star Trek on the internet. I have enough sad things to spend time on on my painting table. lol
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Yes! Now you mention it I seem to recall her in a mini-dress, too.
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Only really seen in the pilot episode, Encounter At Farpoint. Couldn't find any pictures of her wearing it though :?
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/110/257494033_da78c402ee.jpg?v=0)
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Found a couple in a quick search. Nice legs! :D
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Speaking of uniforms, does anyone make miniatures that would well represent the original series outfits?
I would like to run an original series rpg.
SteveN
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Victory Force do their Spacefarers range. Probably the closest you'll get
(http://www.victoryforce.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/006601logo.jpg)
http://www.victoryforce.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=VFM&Category_Code=spacefarers
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Troi didn't wear a uniform at all in the earlier seasons. She wore civvies, in her case a grey/pink catsuit, or sometimes a green or a blue dress.
In later seasons they decided that the Ship's Counsellor should wear a uniform like everybody else, and she donned the blue version. I guess she grew out of that whole rebellious phase, or was tired of being summoned to the headmaster's office for uniform violations.
I seem to remember that she decided to take on more command responsiblities seeing as she was technically the 5th highest ranking officer or something... they did an episode where she had command of a bridge shift (always annoyed me about Trek, the way it was always the same bridge crew no matter what - even if they were off the bridge for whatever reason, the B team would just get shoved off somewhere to appear when needed)
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The episode where she tested to be able to take a command watch of the bridge was a really good episode. Her test in the holodeck consisted of having the crew solve a rapidly deteriorating engineering issue.
But the test wasn't of her problem solving skill at all, but of whether she could order a crew member under her command to follow through with repairs that would most likely lead to his or her death.
A nice job in the writing of that episode, I thought, especially that it sticks with me so many years later.
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Found a couple in a quick search. Nice legs! :D
Yeah. I see that her dress is green, too.... :D
And I promised myself I wasn't going to do that.
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Yeah. I see that her dress is green, too.... :D
And I promised myself I wasn't going to do that.
it's blue... it's just a weird blue...
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Yeah. I see that her dress is green, too.... :D
And I promised myself I wasn't going to do that.
it's blue... it's just a weird blue...
Yeah, that same weird blue that grass is!
I dunno, you could be right actually, I tend to have trouble distinguishing those blue/green hybrids. Sea green, maybe? lol All in good fun, and pictures of Troi to boot!
Its like all those different beiges they have in DIY stores now. Biscuit? Autumn glow? Hint of Araby? What the hell man, they're beige!
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Yeah, that same weird blue that grass is!
lol
but find a picture of Dr Crusher and her together... am certain it's just the usual science's blue....
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Yeah, that same weird blue that grass is!
lol
but find a picture of Dr Crusher and her together... am certain it's just the usual science's blue....
I think you'll find it is green. Here's a couple of shots, one with Dr.Crusher wearing a blue sweater over her uniform, which looks green to me. Couldn't find a shot of the ladies together but the pictures are from the same episode.
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There's only one way to settle this...
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/Star_Trek--Amok_Time.jpg)
... A special edition of Vulcan Gladiators!
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by a strange coincidence encounter at farpoint is on Virgin +1 right now... and Troi's uniform is blue that looks green just as Crusher's is blue (which we're all agreed on) and looked green just now on the bridge.
science and medical have always been blue, they just use a weird greeny blue in the next gen (medical was green in the TOS movies from Khan onwards)
part 2 will presumably be on tomorrow...
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oh that was part 2... oh well...
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[wiki]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_uniform#Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation[/wiki]
The blue tended to appear teal under certain lighting conditions in the later seasons and subsequent spinoffs.
Gold, Red, Blue.... man - I'm not even a trek fan.... ;D
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... I'm not even a trek fan.... ;D
Neither am I, for that matter. I've probably only seen a dozen episodes from throughout the whole million or so. :D Never could handle Captain Kirk! (Apologies for him being Canadian! Hard to believe he's a trained Shakespearean actor!) My interest is more in the technical aspect. I love the ships and the sets (and the girls! ;) ) I collect the various technical guides and plans and some magazines such as Star Trek:The Magazine (got the whole set, for a change!).
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HOW DARE YOU, NO ONE INSULTS THE KIRK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
Seriously though, lol.
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HOW DARE YOU, NO ONE INSULTS THE KIRK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
Indeed. Heīll ask you out on a date, and thatīll make sure you wonīt survive the episode. lol
First time I hear that KIRK/SHATNER is a Shakespeare thespian, though. Patrick Stewart, well-known. But Shatner? You live and learn.
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There's another company somewhere that does 'not' star trek figures in TOS uniforms. Think it might be 1st corps. Eureka had some too, but as far as I know they are discontinued.
Oh and in the original series, redshirts meant: "expendable and about to die horribly". ;)
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No trekkers at 1st Corps... Aliens and some Sci-fi troopers resembling Mobile Infantry, though...
Alas, 25 mm, which probably means very smallish...
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Maybe they're not on the site for IP reasons and you need to ask about them?
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Maybe you're thinking of Mega Miniatures. They do a bridge crew, albeit not with an awful lot of useful poses.
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1st Corps did do some (photo pinched from Matakishi's site) No idea if they're still available though..
(http://www.matakishi.com/First%20corps%20star%20trek%20figs%20600.jpg)
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1st Corps did do some (photo pinched from Matakishi's site) No idea if they're still available though..
I bought a set of these a Triples this year, and I think it was from 1st Corps. Since they don't seem to be on their website, an inquiry would seem to be in order.
Edit: to make my text into real English!
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...First time I hear that KIRK/SHATNER is a Shakespeare thespian, though. Patrick Stewart, well-known. But Shatner? You live and learn.
He started out on stage at Stratford, Ontario doing Shakespeare. He was teamed up several times with Christopher Plummer, currently getting rave reviews (at age 78!) as Caesar in 'Caesar and Cleopatra' and who apparently takes some responsibility for unleashing Shatner on the unsuspecting world!
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SO if Red shirts always die, and Star Wars storm troopers cant hit anything with thier guns, who would win in a fight? Its like some kind of paradox....
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..First time I hear that KIRK/SHATNER is a Shakespeare thespian, though. Patrick Stewart, well-known. But Shatner? You live and learn.
He started out on stage at Stratford, Ontario doing Shakespeare. He was teamed up several times with Christopher Plummer, currently getting rave reviews (at age 78!) as Caesar in 'Caesar and Cleopatra' and who apparently takes some responsibility for unleashing Shatner on the unsuspecting world!
Check out the film Free Enterprise, for his Shakespearean experience, or listen to some of his music CDs (or maybe not). :o
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvQwXOCKNLY
I actually like it....
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.......and he got paid for that? Isn't it even worse than Bjork?
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SO if Red shirts always die, and Star Wars storm troopers cant hit anything with thier guns, who would win in a fight? Its like some kind of paradox....
The cats with the marmelade-covered bread tied to their backs. They would wait till both sides are exhausted and then swoop in for the kill.
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The cats with the marmelade-covered bread tied to their backs. They would wait till both sides are exhausted and then swoop in for the kill.
? :?
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The cats with the marmelade-covered bread tied to their backs. They would wait till both sides are exhausted and then swoop in for the kill.
I think what he means is:
cats always fall on their feet.
marmelade-covered bread always falls on the side with the marmelade.
so if you strap them together, what happens? ;)
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The cats with the marmelade-covered bread tied to their backs. They would wait till both sides are exhausted and then swoop in for the kill.
I think what he means is:
cats always fall on their feet.
marmelade-covered bread always falls on the side with the marmelade.
so if you strap them together, what happens? ;)
Exactly. Therefore, marmalade-bread-cats vs. Stormtroopers vs. Redshirts = Clash of the Titans of Paradox!
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My brain hurts!
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My brain hurts!
Excellent. My work here is done.
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The cats with the marmelade-covered bread tied to their backs. They would wait till both sides are exhausted and then swoop in for the kill.
I think what he means is:
cats always fall on their feet.
marmelade-covered bread always falls on the side with the marmelade.
so if you strap them together, what happens? ;)
Exactly. Therefore, marmalade-bread-cats vs. Stormtroopers vs. Redshirts = Clash of the Titans of Paradox!
It would, of course, be the end of the universe, as we know it.
SteveN
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Nice knowing you then. See you on tyhe other side of this paradox. lol
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Can someone tell me wht Kirk wer yellow uniform ins most of series an green uniform in some episodes? I can remember Archer wer green uniform unboard USS Defiant.
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Only Kirk's full dress wrap around was green, but I gather there was a problem with colour film at the time. This was one of the first TV programmes in colour when I was boy, IIRC.
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I'm so happy I started this thread - everytime I read it, it makes me smile lol
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I'm so happy I started this thread - everytime I read it, it makes me smile
21 months and going strong...........
Checking the encyclopaedia, it seems that the tan uniform was the duty uniform, dress uniform was a green top in two different styles, a wraparound style and a full dress with gold braid and medals.
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It turns out that the green wraparound was a deeper gold color to go with the duty uniform and they didn't know it would show up as green until they actually aired the episode. In mock-ups of the bridge the colors don't really match the original set colors, they have to correct it so it resembles the colors every body is used to seeing on TV!
SteveN
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I had a feeling that it was a colour film issue, still in its infancy.
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It turns out that the green wraparound was a deeper gold color to go with the duty uniform and they didn't know it would show up as green until they actually aired the episode. In mock-ups of the bridge the colors don't really match the original set colors, they have to correct it so it resembles the colors every body is used to seeing on TV!
SteveN
I always thought it was the other way around... the command jersey was green, but showed up gold under the lights and on screen... that's why the command jersey is more yellow and the other 'command' jerseys are more of a beige
EDIT: I said that actually on page one of this thread...
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EDIT: I said that actually on page one of this thread...
But that was 4 pages and nearly 2 years ago...................
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What worries me is what the producers of TNG were thinking when they put male crew members in the mini dress uniform.
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Ladies................
But that was only one episode and not repeated. >:D