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Miniatures Adventure => Old West => Topic started by: Terrible Tim on December 15, 2006, 12:28:40 AM

Title: Alamo mass combat system
Post by: Terrible Tim on December 15, 2006, 12:28:40 AM

Has anyone played a game using the mass combat system from Alamo? How do they play?

TT.

Title: Alamo mass combat system
Post by: Malamute on December 18, 2006, 03:39:09 PM

I haven't tried them.  :(

 If you are looking for rules for the Alamo period  I use Brother against Brother. :)

Title: Alamo mass combat system
Post by: Grimm on December 18, 2006, 04:39:54 PM

Malamute  ``  I haven't tried them``  is not enough information for me please can you explain more .

Thanks grimm

Title: Alamo mass combat system
Post by: Malamute on December 18, 2006, 04:58:49 PM

Grimm,

I haven't purchased them, so I cannot comment on how they play. I don't own a copy of LOTOW either, so have no idea what they are like.Sorry I can't provide any more info. :(

I mentioned Brother against Brother as this is what we play our Alamo games with in case anyone was looking for alternatives.

Title: Alamo mass combat system
Post by: Westfalia Chris on December 18, 2006, 05:25:23 PM

Such posts are a tad unproductive, sir... ;)

Now, I´m a huge fan of the original LOTOW rules and have studied the Alamo rulebook closely when a buddy of mine kindly lent me his copy for a couple of weeks. My opinion: Good ideas, and an interesting approach for mating the LOTOW mechanics with larger troop numbers.

I´m curious though how the use of "heroes" would work out when interacting with "bodies of troops".

Nonetheless, the Alamo IMHO is the supplement most worth buying, if only for the artillery rules.

Title: Alamo mass combat system
Post by: Grimm on December 18, 2006, 05:59:50 PM

Chris have you ever try to use the rules or a BOB game ?

and sorry Malamute I must be blind and read your first post wrong  :oops:

Title: Alamo mass combat system
Post by: Westfalia Chris on December 18, 2006, 06:28:46 PM

Quote from: "Grimm"

Chris have you ever try to use the rules or a BOB game ?

I´m currently writing up a rule set for Russian Civil War, Spanish Civil War, Chinese Civil War and the Gran Chaco based on the Alamo rules... I hope to take a pre-run to Tactica.

Title: Alamo mass combat system
Post by: Grimm on December 18, 2006, 07:20:09 PM

hey i am very interesting  ,I do the same with Dan ( derek bredford) please an you send me your work in proress.
maby we can work together . :wink:

Title: Re: Alamo mass combat system
Post by: nervisfr on February 01, 2007, 11:34:14 AM

Quote from: "Terrible Tim"

Has anyone played a game using the mass combat system from Alamo? How do they play?

TT.

Don't like them.
I'm a current player of LOTR where the system is closed to the LOTOW rules (it's the same in fact). In LOTR there is no need of a such system of resulting combat by mass.

LOTR and LOTOW are fast to play, so why to want a fighting system by unit. In any case, it's not faster than the LOTR system....
I don't understand very well the idea of the writer !

Title: Alamo mass combat system
Post by: Professional Zombie-Hunte on February 01, 2007, 09:00:49 PM

Quote

Don't like them.
I'm a current player of LOTR where the system is closed to the LOTOW rules (it's the same in fact). In LOTR there is no need of a such system of resulting combat by mass.

LOTR and LOTOW are fast to play, so why to want a fighting system by unit. In any case, it's not faster than the LOTR system....
I don't understand very well the idea of the writer !

That's true, except for when you do mass
battle games, such as Helms Deep, or Pelenor
Fields, the game then slows down tremendously,
where as if you did an Alamo battle with non-mass
 combat rules it would. I converted the mass combat
 rules to LOTR and came out with some great results.

Title: Alamo mass combat system
Post by: Argonor on February 02, 2007, 11:06:43 AM

Quote from: "Professional Zombie-Hunte"

I converted the mass combat
 rules to LOTR and came out with some great results.

Sounds good. Could I have a look at that? I have not started purchasing LotOW rulebooks, yet, but I do play LotR and would like to see something that speeds up game play for larger battles.

Title: Alamo mass combat system
Post by: Professional Zombie-Hunte on February 02, 2007, 11:53:22 AM

Sure I've got it written down, hopefully I'll have it typed up tonight.

Title: Alamo mass combat system
Post by: Argonor on February 02, 2007, 09:20:59 PM

Don't rush, just take your time. I'm a patient man  :)

Title: Alamo mass combat system
Post by: fastolfrus on May 01, 2007, 11:44:44 PM

I'd be interested to know how they work out.
We have the scenery for the Alamo in 25mm (the old Hudson and Allen set) which is about a metre square, possibly bigger, so anything less than 50 defenders and there are hopeless gaps on the walls, which means the attackers need 2-300 figures. Personally I don't fancy trying that with LoTW, but we are looking at an adaptation of the "45 minutes at Peking" rules (very similar circumstances so it might not be too bad).

Title: Alamo mass combat system
Post by: fastolfrus on May 01, 2007, 11:45:59 PM

p.s. I've heard that the Hudson & Allen scenery might be available agin via TM Designs.

Title: Alamo mass combat system
Post by: Oswald_Thierstein on May 16, 2007, 08:39:06 PM

Hi,
we have replay "Remember Alamo 1836" with the mass combat system from lotow. It was in Chaumont, France, the 28 and 29/IV/2007.
some pictures :
view from the north:
http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000421yk0.jpg
view from the south
http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict0076apc2.jpg
the mex are in the alamo
http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000436bj3.jpg
the barricade with D. Crockett
http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict0131axx8.jpg
the scenery is from hudson and allen and the figures are old glory.
We have just replay the attack with 3 mexicans columns (Duque, Morales and Romero), a hundred mexicans against a thirty texans defenders. (1 figure for 10 soldiers)
It was nice and difficult for the texans players; But I will finish the two last columns and some presidial trooper,
to replay with all the mexicans forces.
A+
oswald

Title: Alamo mass combat system
Post by: Malamute on May 17, 2007, 08:38:15 AM

Excellent - I love the Alamo and the Texas War of Independence. Nice to see somebody else is gaming it. :)

Title: Alamo mass combat system
Post by: walktapus on May 17, 2007, 07:11:55 PM

I was there ! You can see me on the barricade with Davy Crockett !

Great game. Too bad the Mexicans won :mrgreen:

My pictures are here
http://psilete.free.fr/?/Visites/Chaumontiii2

(http://psilete.free.fr/xmedia/visites/chaumont/2007/alamo9.jpg)