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Title: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 10 Jun 15)
Post by: Overlord on February 01, 2015, 11:52:17 AM
I'm going for something fairly simple, that fits in with a current project and is also part of my "It's Alive!" thread:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=5332.msg911336#msg911336

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/369_01_02_15_12_35_24_0.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/369_01_02_15_12_35_24_1.jpg)

I was just going to enter the flamer-thrower itself and the ensuing fireball, but the base for only the flamer would be too small for the contest rules.  Therefore my entry will include one half of the 'tyrewall' entrance gateway on which it is positioned.

Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower
Post by: Andym on February 01, 2015, 03:09:41 PM
Ohhh promising! 8) 8)

Can I suggest wee bits of sponge glued together for the flames? It looks fairly real once painted.
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower
Post by: OSHIROmodels on February 01, 2015, 04:23:48 PM
Good idea Paul, tying it in to another project  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower
Post by: Constable Bertrand on February 01, 2015, 08:14:29 PM
Humongous is not pleased by such defences, but I am! :D build away!!
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower
Post by: Overlord on February 02, 2015, 05:42:10 PM
Just to prove something is happening; the base for the tyrewall.  The bluefoam will support the wall of tyres and a walkway.  More substantial than the original, but a more robust piece of wargame terrain.  Just waiting for more tyres to arrive to progress.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/20/369_02_02_15_6_32_19.jpg)

Can I suggest wee bits of sponge glued together for the flames? It looks fairly real once painted.
That's what I have in mind; either some old clump foliage I have, or just a random piece of foam.

Good idea Paul, tying it in to another project  :)
It seemed to make sense to do so, although it means there will be odd bits of the overall project scattered in different parts of the forum.

Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower
Post by: uti long smile on February 02, 2015, 06:00:07 PM
Excellent idea!
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower
Post by: Vanvlak on February 02, 2015, 06:35:45 PM
This looks fun   :D
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower
Post by: OSHIROmodels on February 02, 2015, 06:51:24 PM
It seemed to make sense to do so, although it means there will be odd bits of the overall project scattered in different parts of the forum.

Bring em all together when done  :D

cheers

James
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower
Post by: Malamute on February 02, 2015, 07:23:07 PM
Excellent. ;D
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 07 Feb 15)
Post by: Overlord on February 07, 2015, 11:53:06 AM
I've now textured the base with DIY filler and painted the base and supporting foam.  Painting this would be difficult to do once the build is finished.
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-280320211307-449991913.jpeg)

Whilst the filler and paint were drying I put together the flamethrower using various odds'n'ends: Plastic rod/tube/strip, copper tube, brass rod and a piece of solder.
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/45/369-280320211307-450011292.jpeg) (https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/45/369-280320211307-45002255.jpeg)


Flamethrower height against a miniature:
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/45/369-280320211307-450031817.jpeg)

The brass rod will fit into a tube set into the tyrewall, so that the weapon can be removed for safe storage.

Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 07 Feb 15)
Post by: snitcythedog on February 07, 2015, 06:18:47 PM
Very cool.  If I remember correctly, in the movie they had a hand pump that they used to spray it.  Are you going to add anything like that? 
Snitchy sends.
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 07 Feb 15)
Post by: Overlord on February 09, 2015, 12:34:43 PM
Very cool.  If I remember correctly, in the movie they had a hand pump that they used to spray it.  Are you going to add anything like that?

I'm not sure what hand pump you are referring to:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/Max_Deployment/Flammenwerfer/flame12.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Max_Deployment/media/Flammenwerfer/flame12.jpg.html)
I'm assuming the silver cylinder is (gas?) for ignition, with the second line feeding the fuel to be burnt.

There was a winding mechanism for re-cocking the heavy crossbow mounted on the other side of the gateway:

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/45/369-280320213359-4500424.jpeg)

Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 07 Feb 15)
Post by: gamer Mac on February 09, 2015, 12:53:56 PM
Looking good :-* :-* :-*
Where are all the tyres coming from?
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 07 Feb 15)
Post by: Overlord on February 09, 2015, 04:24:14 PM
Where are all the tyres coming from?

I got them from 2 sources:
Kids Globe Farming - Silo cover: Contains 50 identical tyres (20mm dia):
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/45/369-280320213959-45006429.jpeg)

Replacement 'Corgi/Dinky' tyres from an Ebay seller.  I bought mostly 20mm plus some slightly smaller tyres:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/tony19452011/m.html?item=251797919980&hash=item3aa05358ec&pt=UK_ToysGames_DiecastVehicles_DiecastVehicles_JN&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

I have nearly 200 tyres now, but it did cost me around £25, with the 'Dinky' ones approximately double the cost of the toy ones.  This does however give me some variation rather than piles of identical tyres.  I also have a few larger diameter tyres/wheels from old 1/35 vehicle kits.  There will be some left over for further post apoc terrain.

Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 07 Feb 15)
Post by: Malamute on February 09, 2015, 04:28:41 PM
Overlord.... No longer the Brick King, he is now the Prince of Tyres ;)
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 09 Feb 15)
Post by: Overlord on February 09, 2015, 05:53:10 PM
Overlord.... No longer the Brick King, he is now the Prince of Tyres ;) 
Very good.  That actually made me laugh out loud.  lol

The foam has now been clad with various bits of plastic card, some of it given a distressed look:
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-280320210254-44994263.jpeg)

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-280320210254-449951432.jpeg)


Starting to build the tyre wall:
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-280320210254-449961201.jpeg)

Much easier than engraving bricks into foam.....  ;)
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 09 Feb 15)
Post by: Thunderchicken on February 09, 2015, 07:04:46 PM
Looking good Paul.

Much easier than engraving bricks into foam.....  ;)


Did you engrave the grip onto the tyres though?  ;)
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 09 Feb 15)
Post by: Overlord on February 09, 2015, 09:33:42 PM
Did you engrave the grip onto the tyres though?  ;)
No, I'm too slick for that.  It might have made for a more gripping read though....  :D

Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 07 Feb 15)
Post by: snitcythedog on February 10, 2015, 08:20:18 AM
There was a winding mechanism for re-cocking the heavy crossbow mounted on the other side of the gateway:
That is what I was thinking of.  Why don't you sculpt that too?  There are only like twenty days left.   :D
Snitchy sends.
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 09 Feb 15)
Post by: Malamute on February 10, 2015, 08:36:20 AM
No, I'm too slick for that.  It might have made for a more gripping read though....  :D



 lol

Coming together nicely. Can't wait to see this in the flesh, hint, hint. ;)
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 09 Feb 15)
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on February 10, 2015, 08:52:54 AM
I like your distressed plastic card.

Tony
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 07 Feb 15)
Post by: Overlord on February 10, 2015, 11:44:58 AM
I like your distressed plastic card.

Thanks Tony. Pretty easily done by cutting odd little bits out of the edge and scratching or punching small holes etc into it.

That is what I was thinking of.  Why don't you sculpt that too?  There are only like twenty days left.   :D

I am building the whole gateway, along with other bits in my "It's Alive" project thread:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=5332.30

As the gateway will be in separate parts I'm including just the side with the flamer in this contest.  I'm currently building the other half at the same time as this part.  The crossbow is on the list to do.

Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 09 Feb 15)
Post by: pocoloco on February 11, 2015, 06:21:47 AM
Shaping up nicely  8)
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 09 Feb 15)
Post by: von Lucky on February 11, 2015, 06:51:16 AM
Nice - and I used that same textured sheet in my build.
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 12 Feb 15)
Post by: Overlord on February 12, 2015, 12:07:42 PM
Feeling tyred?   :`

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-280320210802-449971280.jpeg)


A few more bits of plastic card etc added to the interior:
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-280320210803-449982389.jpeg)
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 12 Feb 15)
Post by: Constable Bertrand on February 12, 2015, 08:16:44 PM
The tyres turned out great, I like the different sizes of them.
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 12 Feb 15)
Post by: Duke Donald on February 13, 2015, 01:39:04 AM
That's a lot of tyres! I agree it looks great.
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 12 Feb 15)
Post by: Overlord on February 13, 2015, 10:51:06 AM
The tyres came (mostly) from a farm toy set, and spares sold for Corgi/Dinky diecast cars.  They are around 19/20mm diameter. There are also a few from old 1/35 vehicle kits.  Although the Corgi/Dinky tyres were more expensive, the variation they give, in size and tread pattern, was worth it.


Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 12 Feb 15)
Post by: Mason on February 13, 2015, 12:10:30 PM
Spot on so far.
 8)

The tyres came (mostly) from a farm toy set, and spares sold for Corgi/Dinky diecast cars.

That is a lot of farm toys!
 :o

Will the next project be a junkyard using the rest of the models?

Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 12 Feb 15)
Post by: Overlord on February 13, 2015, 12:26:53 PM
That is a lot of farm toys!

Will the next project be a junkyard using the rest of the models?

I didn't have to buy a load of farm vehicles to nick the tyres from, they came in a set of 50 tyres for a farmyard silo cover:
(http://www.farmtoysonline.co.uk/images/products/large/1335.jpg)

The first one was a damaged packet with 1 tyre missing, that I got for a bargain 99p plus postage.  :)



Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 12 Feb 15)
Post by: Mason on February 13, 2015, 02:18:05 PM
Result!
 8)

Will have to see if I can track some of them down.
They will certainly prove useful at some point, no doubt.

Thanks for the tip-off.
 :D

Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 12 Feb 15)
Post by: beefcake on February 14, 2015, 09:02:49 AM
Very cool. I want to get some of those tyres now. They seem to be a great source of quick terrain that you could pack away easily.
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 14 Feb 15)
Post by: Overlord on February 14, 2015, 01:24:55 PM
Very cool. I want to get some of those tyres now. They seem to be a great source of quick terrain that you could pack away easily.

I hadn't thought of that, but yes they would make quick easy scatter terrain/cover, or to add to bits of existing terrain, or to join up separate sections of barricade.

I've gathered some clutter to add to the interior of the wall.  Just placed in position before painting commences:

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-280320205020-44989585.jpeg)

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-280320205020-44990298.jpeg)

That's the build of the tyrewall pretty much completed before painting for the final entry now.  Just need to make the fireball/flames.
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 14 Feb 15)
Post by: Malamute on February 14, 2015, 01:37:12 PM
Looks great. The clutter really brings it to life :)
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 14 Feb 15)
Post by: Silent Invader on February 14, 2015, 01:48:37 PM
It's looking great  8)
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 14 Feb 15)
Post by: Mason on February 14, 2015, 02:35:34 PM
Ooh!
Clutter.

We love clutter.
 :-*

Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 14 Feb 15)
Post by: Duke Donald on February 14, 2015, 05:43:44 PM
It's amazing how much the addition of some apparently random objects instilled life in the build!
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 14 Feb 15)
Post by: Dr DeAth on February 14, 2015, 05:58:50 PM
Looking good, a very eclectic mix of bits
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 14 Feb 15)
Post by: uti long smile on February 14, 2015, 06:42:30 PM
That's cracking.
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 14 Feb 15)
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on February 14, 2015, 07:51:00 PM
Looking good.

Tony
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 21 Feb 15)
Post by: Overlord on February 21, 2015, 01:36:31 PM
 Fire!

I've now built the flames to be thrown:
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-280320205437-449911136.jpeg)(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-280320205437-449922238.jpeg)

I first stuck a length of florists wire onto a 2p coin, ensuring the wire was at the correct angle to match up with the end of the weapon.  The coin was to add a bit of weight so that it sat up the right way and didn't overbalance.  I then threaded pieces of clump foliage onto the wire, glueing it as I went.  I worked from the larger fireball, with gradually smaller pieces towards the barrel end of the thrower.  Once that had dried out I soaked the whole thing in PVA glue, slightly thinned with water so that it would soak into the clump material.  This is a rather messy process.  It was then left for a couple of days to completely dry out.

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-280320205437-44993851.jpeg)

I will spray paint it a more suitable colour next, then finish off blending yellow/orange/red for the flames.

That's the build pretty much completed.   8)

Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 21 Feb 15)
Post by: von Lucky on February 21, 2015, 01:44:35 PM
Nice work - I am half way building a smoke grenade the same way. I can attest it is a messy process and takes days to dry, but it'll be worth it.

This build is a little bit Road Warrior, a little bit sexy.
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 21 Feb 15)
Post by: uti long smile on February 21, 2015, 04:58:35 PM
Brilliant. Can't wait to see the paint job!
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 21 Feb 15)
Post by: Mason on February 21, 2015, 05:14:29 PM
Effective looking flames, mate.
 8)

I find that a dousing in cheap superglue adds solidity and takes drybushing rather nicely.
It is what I do to clump foliage on my buildings.
An easier option if you still have a few 'soft' areas.
 ;)
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 21 Feb 15)
Post by: odd duck on February 23, 2015, 10:43:44 PM
Flocking for flames!! A stroke of Genius! :o :o
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 21 Feb 15)
Post by: Vanvlak on February 24, 2015, 05:55:15 AM
That's a good one  8) 8) 8)
Also useful for exotic flames for dragons and stuff.
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 21 Feb 15)
Post by: Andym on February 24, 2015, 06:53:49 AM
That REALLY looks the part already!  8) 8) 8)

Are you planning to make a couple of flame markers out of the same stuff to show who's on fire?
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 21 Feb 15)
Post by: Overlord on February 24, 2015, 01:45:39 PM
Flocking for flames!! A stroke of Genius!
Not genius on my part.  I first saw it used years ago on a WW1 demo game by Dave Andrews and Aly Morrison.  There are a few 'how to' around the web that others have done.  I looked at several, but mainly: http://sidneyroundwood.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/flaming-holidays.html

I find that a dousing in cheap superglue adds solidity and takes drybushing rather nicely.
It is what I do to clump foliage on my buildings.
An easier option if you still have a few 'soft' areas.
I didn't do this as the PVA seemed to give good coverage, but I can see that it would work well on flames/smoke/foliage.

Are you planning to make a couple of flame markers out of the same stuff to show who's on fire?
That's the plan.  I also have a running miniature, part converted , that will be on fire.  I'm not sure I will have time to do them for the contest though. 

Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 21 Feb 15)
Post by: flags_of_war on February 24, 2015, 03:08:20 PM
This is awesome.

I used the clump foliage recently for cannon smoke and it worked a treat. I used hot glue gun which was brilliant for it. The pva attempt was a disaster with me nearly destroying the house in a rage.
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 21 Feb 15)
Post by: Malamute on February 25, 2015, 03:36:05 PM
Inspired idea for the flames/smoke, can't wait to see the finished product. :)
Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 10 Jun 15)
Post by: Overlord on June 10, 2015, 10:18:09 AM
The completed Flamethrower and tyrewall:

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-280320202634-449841270.jpeg)

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-280320202634-449851727.jpeg)

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-280320202634-449861424.jpeg)


Fire!:
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-280320202634-4498710.jpeg)

Whole gateway:
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-280320202635-449882270.jpeg)

More pics of the whole completed gateway and more are here: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=5332.75

Title: Re: Overlord's Flame-thrower (Updated: 10 Jun 15)
Post by: Rhoderic on June 10, 2015, 10:34:54 AM
I will only say: WOW!